Jenkins Google Summer of Code Office Hours, 8 May 2019

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Meeting notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H0gJt1zdr37YDpuSLXSeFqYco_a_CIrAuZ1f0Oyl4XE/edit#heading=h.8xarldn5w1so

A

Okay and we are online so how everyone today is the regular will Summer of Code meeting, but yet today their schedule is not regular, because today is they just medium capture, jisub project announcements, and we have altered beans on the call and we also have live a and other orchid means and mentors will be probably joining inflated because we just said participate link a couple of minutes ago. So yeah, okay, do is my screen. Yes,.

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I just wanted to show what has changed so yeah. If you have any questions and if you're on the youtube call feel free to ask this question, see in the json get a shot or you can just use this participant link. But as long as we have enough slots, you're welcome to join if needed, we will better take in the session.

A

So yes, on Monday, we had G sub project announced, so we drink immunization got seven projects all these projects listed on the Google News caught website. Currently we are working on updating the Jenkins our website so that all our projects get their own pages there. It will be done this week, but him you might see that the seven project acepted but yeah.

A

There was a lot more students who applied to G so this year and there was a lot more mentors and project ideas and we actually, we wanted to say thank you to all students and mentors who participated, who invested their time in Jenkins G. So because you know it's hard work to just prepare proposals to explore the areas and we really appreciate a bit.

A

Unfortunately, we're unable to accept everyone- and we wanted to this year and new apologies for that, but yeah gee soap is a highly competitive program and sometimes you have to make tough decisions yeah, whatever happened, we invite everybody to participate in jenkees or in other organizations, currently be exploring options to have other programs, in addition to G soak and yeah, if you're interested in Jenkins community. Your model welcome to continue working these mentors to ask them questions to join community channels, and it worked with us so yeah.

A

In addition of what I wanted to say that game as Jenkins project, we would appreciate any feedback yeah, we send feedback to almost all students by now. If you haven't received anything, but yet please pink orchid means, and we will make sure that this feedback gets sent to you as soon as possible. And if you want to say anything, this orchid means is also you so they'll orchid Millman increased so that we process your feedback and take it in the next year.

A

Okay, so he enlisted some is here so we're drinking three. So to sum of 19, orchid knees.

A

With respective so that, if you want to say anything, you know also the retrospective documents, what else is going to happen participated in the application period? Yeah we sent some swag. So please send us your shipping cadres again Jenkins G, so 2019 no or 5 mins man increased. So we will make sure that we sent you and it's not only for students. It's also for mentors and actually also participants off to southern play, Eton project, because he we delete derivative swap and we will be say, sending Papa CS at once.

A

So you know make sure to.

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Send them okay,.

A

Yep, as I said on, Jenkins are you everything is work in progress so now there is not that much materials about you suppose on a painting, but you show it will will be updated. Regarding the guidance for students, we have information for students page and this page is up to date, and here you can find the community bonding page so effectively all the information all balanced and all expectations are listed here and it will be using communities in order to provide more information.

A

So I will show you the page later, but the basic information is all the variable here generally, what happens now for all asset projects?

A

You start working is your mentors, you schedule a meeting schedule, communication channels and you start working together on community bonding two main goals in community bonding is to firstly get introduced to the community, which is over the school community and another one that all the required unimportant and enablement to be able to work on your projects, so it means they're getting necessary permissions, creating github projects if needed, creating whatever other resources and also making enough trainings.

A

So what we expect from students now is that make sure you have conversation with your mentors and think which information you would need in order to be effective, use your products. So any idea you have in mind to share users integers and we will try to organize something so yeah, that's the fun any questions so far.

A

I guess not: okay, so yeah, if you have a questions, just put them into the chat. So what are the next steps? Yeah for a subject projects? The next steps is actually you continue coming in Timonium, so I believe you summarized what we expect you to do for details. You just created this random, so you may see that there are multiple sections and actually what we expect to so you expect mentors to initiate communications. So it's really important that inventors started actively working with students now and please reach out to students.

A

If you haven't already done that, please start discussing making notes and make sure that you schedule the first meeting you have. They recommend to duty in the first week because you come in fondant is not that one and there is a lot of vitamins to prepare and then what else both yeah.

A

All right, okay, so what else we need from you? We will be posting announcements on Jenks, a always project introductions, and in order to do that, we actually need some information about you. So we ask you to submit your profiles to Jenkins ion, so we have a page pages for all authors of the blog post, so you may see the list here and actually we ask students and mentors tools create their own profiles here. So it's just a summary with a short description, so.

A

They have much interest so yeah here you may see that there is some information added generally. We need your github account, your Twitter, if you use Twitter and also some summary, that's it and yeah also it would be nice to have for your photos. It's not mandatory, but yeah if possible. Please submit your photos to this directory content images, our turfs. There are also images- and you can just you know, be just using it and some material sitting in it.

A

Okay, so yeah that's what we need from mentors for students again as I said, submit profiles. Then you also need you to update project pages. So, what's going to happen right now, there is no project pages on my drink and say oh, but they will be pledge pages similar to what we have had in Tucson taken. So if you go there, you may see that there are projects and for each project there is a page. This page includes summary information about the project plus links to all information and links to community channels and effectively.

A

This is a place you will like. You will be using to submit to Google as a result of google Summer of Code event of the third phase, you're expected to submit such page, so Jenkins project provides a place, but the content yeah it's up to students and mentors to fill it in, and you ask to start doing it earlier so that you have some basic information and that we can share this information with other potential stakeholders and the projects. So all these pages actually will be developed in asciidoc.

A

All of these pages are being managed by pull requests, so you can just fork Jenkins, IO and yeah. You will need to fork. Jenkins I, don't know 270 or profiles, but once you do it, you also can start submitting page pushes, and that means we will be integrating them after a quick video, so it it will have it something you can start earlier and you will be able to try out the drinking.

A

So your development, because you know all of you- will be submitting blog posts and it's important to be able to contribute something to drink. See you at the next meeting I can show you how to develop good or maybe we can they even do it later. Today,.

A

Okay, so what else you have in the list? It would be great if you send some introductions to the community, so as a part of community bonding yeah, all of projects have Mentors. Some projects probably have many mentors I believe our record to something like five mentors. We will be probably rather than reorganizing three teams later but yeah. In any case, it's just a fraction of the changes community and we want you to really participate in the jenkees, come via various jenkees developer.

A

Magnet least, some of you have already submitted messages there to discuss particular topics and we invite all students to work with mentors in order to share to send self introduction. There.

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A

Just to introduce yourself and your project, and it would be nice if you sent this emails during the community bonding, preferably during the first weeks, because you might be able to find additional stakeholders who will be interested in your projects.

A

Okay, what else we have we have yeah? We expect all teams to set up team meetings, so we will we'll keep increase weekly office hours to discuss jae-seok activities. Maybe do some kony, but really the most of the work will be happening in guitar charts in your main increase and also a team meetings. We recommend all teams to have too many Kings per week so that you will sync up with each other and yep.

A

We asked you to set up this meetings earlier and yeah all will also need to set up chairs the most of projects already have to charge, but yet maybe you want to change them due to whatever reason, so you just start establishing the communication between each other. So so we define the times loss which which are comfortable to you guys, and each project is yeah you're free to define how we work together with a meeting, so we do not impose any strict requirements there.

A

What else we need to do as a team is to create a design document. So currently we have a project proposals, so each of you has submitted the project proposal. It was reviewed dollars, we got some feedback, but yeah they may be opening action items. They may be needing some reality marking, for example, your project may be too big or too small.

A

So currently, since you have mentors, you have more understanding of what the project would be, you probably want to sit together and to define what you want to do and once you have a design document, you can also shade on the project website and you can use that this design document in order to create JIRA tickets and epics for the first phase, so Jenkins uses a centralized JIRA.

A

Almost all projects use data and we highly recommend to use it for G source as well, so that you can start from people it's at least for the first phase, so that you have all the information prepared and then yeah. When recording video starts, you have created tickets, you have design notes and you just start coding. So this is our main goal to ensure that everything is ready, but the first day of the coding period, if you need any help from or that means yeah just send us a message.

A

So, whatever training unity, if you feel that particular areas of your project proposal needs need technical advisors, because you can have proper team expertise in the team or if you need something from the infrastructure side, let us know we will do our best to help with it.

A

Okay, I hope that it summarizes what we expect during this phase. Are there any questions.

E

Hello yeah I, wanted to ask one question. Like later today, I tried to close one of the issues in the JIRA piece, but, like later, you opened it again. So what was the reason behind that?

E

Okay I can show.

A

It but yep just second: oh.

A

Yeah, it was for promoted bills, plugin yeah, so yeah as I said. We use cheetah, but the way we use JIRA. It really depends on the project but yeah he is they get a ticket plastic references, so you may see that it's reopened so yeah. There is a pull request. This pull request has been rushed towards the master branch, but it wasn't released yet reason lightly. It's my fault, it's my fault for sure.

A

So yeah, even if they change, is fixed. So nothing left to be done from your side. They fix, hasn't, been released and hence it's not available to users. So now yeah we have state like fixed but not released engine in Jenkins code, but for plugins we just keep them is in review until they are released, but him okay, mm-hmm, okay,.

E

A

But yeah all jitter workflows. Please work with your mentors to define how you use JIRA, because yeah in our case it's just said hosting for all plugins, but each plug-in is pretty much independent in terms of how they use JIRA.

E

Okay, okay, so it means that it's still in review that way. It's not getting close.

A

Yeah, it's it's not an era muy! It's waiting for the rails, okay,.

F

A

So yeah the rest of us, which is called fixed. Well, it's not resolved unreleased, so I can close with its status and then we yeah, then it's probably the best option for here so yeah, okay, okay,.

F

A

So any other questions.

A

Maybe Martin Jeff would you like to add something.

D

I only select, this is a very basic question. I just wanted to ask. You know like why.

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D

Website Jenkins Jenkins project rather than Jenkins.

A

Yeah so it happens generally, we have been using Jenkins as the project to distinguish from other things because, for example, Jenkins organization is slightly bigger. Think that then Jenkins project, because yeah.

D

A

A it includes I'm sharing my screen again. So, let's go to Jenkins. Are you okay? So Jing say your includes for many things so yeah whatever its heat, is a part of the Jenkins project, including sub projects like, for example, blows and evergreen google Summer of Code infrastructure, whatever, for example, Jenkins X. He is maybe an exception, because Jenkins X now most who, until every foundation, so it will be on the same level of strength, I'm receiving a lot of background noise from somebody.

A

Okay, okay, thank you so yeah. This is Jenkins project or Jenkins organization, but yeah. If we say just Jenkins, it may be a bit confusion because yeah Jenkins is a server. Jenkins is a whatever, but yeah jenkees website is a Jenkins, so not same for infrastructure. It's not exactly Jenkins, and sometimes it goes to more with cases like, for example, if you go to Jenks organization in github, you can see that there are some projects like program wall, 3ds, SSH, yeah, yeah this. This is a project.

A

It's under Jing is sunbrella, but the factory's project being widely used in many other areas. So, even if it's a part of Jenkins organization, it's probably a part of Jenkins as a component, but it's not a part of project. So something like that anyway, yeah, it's just details. Well, we use Jenkins project on the website, like the music historical reasons, because that's how we are edition, the upside I will keep these themes, starting from 2016.

A

So you're right that you be mine, it might need to change that, because if you go to continues the day for the foundation, then yeah we continue sliver the foundation. We have four projects now, so it's Jenkins Jenkins X effectively in this google Summer of Code we applied for both Jenkins and Jenkins sex. So maybe what could bit on the edges of Technology in order to specify that this is this part going forward.

A

I'm not sure whether I answered your question or confused you even more but yeah.

D

Gordon, thank you yep. So.

A

Yeah, we shouldn't really care yeah. You work in the Giants organization on the Jenkins project. In any case,.

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We get people on the call.

A

Okay, if there is no questions you just to summarize things yeah, there is a link of what we expect you to know will be send it with in the mailing list soon. So we receive the same information and the project starts now, so you understand that all students still need a kind of transition period.

A

So we don't expect everybody to start working on community bonded tomorrow, but yeah currently make sure that your channel is your other commitments that they make sure that you align us with Jae Seok and if you need any help from mentors to do that, please reach out to them because yeah they will be issues with time zones. So they will be issues with.

A

Slots for meetings- and we it's better to start to tell you even if it doesn't require much time for the rest end of community abundant the best time to do knowledge transfer and to do some timing for the coding. Because I.

D

Had another one like in the in the community bonding guidelines, it's mentioned that in the deliverable after the plug-in has been developed, it has to be released to the Alpha channel or the update Center. Can you can you please explicitly tell what what these 12 mm.

A

Well, it's a bit earlier to talk about it, but yeah I, believe furniture has all obvious I mean today I request to host his phone yeah, so yeah, maybe we'll get some releases before the coding starts: phenoms, okay, so yeah.

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So there is a page well publishing experimental tagging releases and this page should be actually summarized what to do. I'll just put it to the meeting notes.

A

Okay, so yeah this page, which lists summarizes it so as long as plug-in version has alpha or beta in the version number, it gets released to the experimental update side. Don't means that it won't be immediately available to all users. It will be available only to the users who use experimental of December.

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D

Okay, thank you yeah and I. Look into this. Thank you.

A

A

So if there is no questions, maybe I could briefly show you how to develop a jinx, a yawn, because he I believe that everybody will need to do so. What they think is.

B

Cat sounds useful, yeah.

A

Okay, so Jane can say your website. Yeah junk sale website is based on github, effectively its configuration as code, so it means that whatever is posted here, gets deployed to Jenkins I/o here, and the everything is driven by pull request. So anybody is welcome to just submit a pull request. If you see a typo on a page or if you want to extend it yeah- and there is a lot of pull requests going in, it seems that pull request deal that is broken for now, but yeah.

A

We will investigate what happens and there are pages describing how to contribute effectively. Everything is described on this page and everything I am presenting will be also shown on this page.

A

Jenkins yeah, so I just put the link here so.

A

Okay, then, how do you develop late? If you have generally, we use the Christ infrastructure, so whatever you do, you actually need docker and there is Mike file widget, which defines all steps, so we environment, yeah. You need to install meek. If you don't have it and you need okay, the rest will be provisioned inside the docker container. So, for example, now when I do the development yeah, you may see that.

A

Checked out and there is a vector make file which defines all the steps so from all the list, you will likely need to two comments. One is make prepare okay and whether or not I want Linux. So one comment is: make prepare.

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B

Losing your you're losing your audio.

A

Sorry, when did you lose me.

B

Just a second ago, okay,.

A

So yeah first comments make prepare it's documented and the second is make run so when I click micron I just start local development, environment, okay, so yeah it usually takes a while to provision everything because gay even and docker there is all the guys system it takes a while and likely just run off, make prepare you'll take. Maybe 15 minutes and you'll make sure that you have a good internet connection.

A

So I'll just run for a while and they show you what we have on the documentation set so yeah. A lot of you said how to add authors. There is a special page about the editor blog post. So if you want to post something on Jenkins, are you know and yeah? We invite you to post on Jenkins I/o if you're interested or if you have blog posts or whatever around urging kids, you can repost as well.

A

So again, you can do it here for students from China the results Chinese website, and if you want to post something there please contact Rick. He will provide guidelines but yeah. It's also possible to do blog posts and changes, though, for google Summer of Code, the working language is in English, so we expect everything to be on the main website and yeah.

A

If your interests to repost some content or if you want to post content, which is not directly related to your project, you can also do it on the chinese website if you want so there are guidelines for blog posts, but we can probably just take a look code together so yeah. That is content, so all information is based in content and actually the entire structure is here.

A

So, for example, if you want to have information about the google Summer of Code, that is projects JSOC and for projects jae-seok, you me see that that is project ideas, but the released of projects here and there are all information like index mentors, etc. So this information represents the content we have on the website. I will probably try to connect to the local instance: okay, yeah. It's loading how so yeah this is jinkies website which has been started from my local environment.

A

So you may see that the yeah here's, a google Summer of Code I, hope it'll, wanst yeah, so yeah, it's a new version, I'm working on now, so you may see that there are some projects listed here and everything it's been loaded dynamically. So if you apply a patch in the asciidoc, when you reload the page, the PI, the patch will be applied automatically without need to dilute it in research here, Andy yeah. These are your projects. Currently, these are the stops and yeah as a part of they just I.

A

Think Sydney asked you to do these tops Bucky. You me see that there is just some basic information integrated.

A

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A

So the process is you develop a decide once you have developed all you need you submit a pull request so which means it. You have to fork visit Ori to your local account. You work with the fork and then you submit a pull request and for each pull request will be a review process. I. Usually we just recommend to pimp your mentors, or that means- and they will hope, is a better view, because not everybody has mesh admissions to the JSOC website, but all of that means do have such permissions.

A

So once the projects that you huge, we will integrate them dodging as I go and they will be delivered. For example, there was some political is recently well Jae, Seok.

A

Andre two metals for emerging projects, etc. So yeah there is a lot of requests coming in and you just add this political and we will indicate in creature.

A

A

Am I still eligible.

H

A

So yeah, that's actually what I wanted to present. So everybody is welcome to try this drink and sell you on and and the it's pretty much similar to pull request process in Jenkins repositories. So when we need something you generally played by pull requests where Jenkins Giri inches and then delivers we'll be able to help you to enter changes.

A

Speaking of changes, I know that some people still have open the pool requests from the application period. So, if possible, please spend some time to get them over the line, maybe as a part of coding who maybe is a part of community pondering. If you need any help from what that means, please let us know, because we may have missed something.

A

If there is no questions, probably we could do a brief, listen cup with openings regarding what we do is drinking sorry or etc, or maybe we just closed down the meeting and then meet again.

D

Excuse me I just wanted to talk to Jeff hi Jeff, so I am under you as a student for my difference pipeline. Forget them so I.

E

D

You would be available to we talked. It said that we want to have a sink of meet up the medicine students, III.

H

Should be able to yeah, do you know what time you think it would arm in contact me offline will set up okay, so.

D

The meeting time is a 1 a.m. you easy. Is it possible for you? Let.

I

Me, let me say.

I

It's a bit earlier yeah that works to me: okay, okay, that's like.

D

A will be posting other hand, note link on sat at one mu, DC.

D

So we'll meet up today. Thank you.

A

Yeah, so if somebody hits issues to be stem zones, please let me know we did the kind of spot shaker that all the projects have sometimes on the table. But yet sometimes you get mistake. Holders for bass in different time zones and a it's a part of distributed. Work experience. Oh yeah, it's not always easy, but it happens often.

A

Okay, so anything else you can help it.

B

Actually, Oleg I have started a document to help track the progress with with the expectations for the bonding for the community bonding phase I I can share it. I think there's no one, no issues with it. Would you like me to.

A

B

So let me share my screen: just a sec.

A

So if it's a kind of checklist, it might be really helpful. It.

B

Is a kind of checklist just a minute.

B

Did you see my screen not yet? Okay,.

B

Yes, I'm presenting to everyone does.

A

Anybody see Martin's screen well.

C

A

You're presenting to everyone but you're, not sharing your screen. Now we are sharing your screen. Okay,.

B

So I've started this community bonding tracking spreadsheet, with I think so horizontally I have the different projects identify the student, the men lead mentor and the participating mentors.

B

Then we have each item that were that we need to confirm or do during community bonding and I'm was just working on this list. So that's what I wanted to show so now what would be useful is for I guess we have to decide who is allowed to update this, and who can you know confirm that, for example, if the bio has been submitted to engines IO, we could say it's done or we could have the link here.

C

A

Know what you could do you could film it comments for everybody, so we just save admission to comment so that at least people can comment in the document and we can address the fixed comments.

B

Okay, I'll add the list of students and mentors to the document. Yeah.

A

Right so one of the things will be on this page yeah. You may see that Emily's that has mental in many projects. Yes,.

B

A

Just to clarify actually I'm entering only one project at all strategy performance improvements for the rest, we'll be rather a technical adviser, so it means I, probably will that additional role are there. So it means that I will try to participate in meetings when time allows and that yeah. If you need any technical advice and you reviews I will be happy to do so, but yeah it doesn't mean that I will be able to join the meeting every week, etc.

B

That is understood for for actually a technical advisors, yeah.

A

Right so yeah, we also figure out how to do the thing, because this is the first year we do technical advisor yeah anyway, I'm really interested to help all the projects here. Yeah.

B

Yes, that's the goal of this spreadsheet is is to is to confirm the roles as well. So thank you for that. Yeah.

A

Right and again, while we have community bonding, there might be some changes in the teams. So yeah some mantras kinda same to decide to join the project because yeah we will be bumping visibility of all the projects soon, and maybe there will be more people. Maybe there will be people who have some unfund activities happens.

A

Sometimes so we will adjust the list for the reality and, in addition to technical advisors, so some projects already have linked into special interest groups, so special interest groups, for example, club needs special interest group for called features for external workspace manager and for remote info watch, kafka platform, support, plugin installation manager and the yeah. We will see what he could do for other projects so that we also get them involved in their bigger communities.

A

So we think that special interest loops and Jenkins or sub projects they have their own regular charts that their own regular meetings and there's a part of community bonding. We didn't want to you to participate in them so that you get more stakeholders and you get more context say in the Jencks community.

B

Okay, we we can, we can make this spreadsheet, do what we, what we need so will will keep it or keep it live. If it's helpful.

A

I think it should be helpful.

B

All right so I'll stop the sharing.

G

Like this I just wanted to know your time zones and, if possible, for the other members too, so we can coordinate well yeah.

A

We could actually add a spreadsheet, so I'm based in Europe, so my common time zone is UTC +2, but yeah. It will be traveling a bit during the jaesuk time frame, so it may change. But here for me it's a plus tone for Martin and Jeff for the obesity in the United States. Well, sorry in America, in Canada.

A

But yeah so yeah they have less overlap, use, Asian and Pacific vigil, but yeah. On the other hand, you can not do meetings during the night in Europe in terms of.

E

I like to ask the same question to close also.

A

Also utcp postal I believe.

E

Okay, Danish time is good. Yes,.

B

A

Okay, yeah right so yeah I think this is a topic you should discuss with mentors at the first meeting in the child because yeah generally, all this mapping work starts on the team level. So as all that means we want to help you, we want to help you to to be successful, but generally project teams do the most of self-organization works, not to work on the projects. We just help.

A

If you need some assistance.

B

A

So what I'm using actually well community bonding is a pretty flexible, please but yeah. If you have any major 10 commitments, if you aren't able to start into bonding, for example this week, please, like mentors know about that. It's not defined.

A

By the time coding period, it would be if the entire framework for the project is established so that you just start coding because coding periods. They may look to be alone, but there are just seven weeks, and that is a lot of things.

E

Okay, so actually I will be absent for like 10 and 11. Actually, I mentioned this in the proposal. Also, no I'd have it. So that's why, like two days, 10 and 11, I I will be absent. It's.

A

Totally fine, so generally, just let your mentors know about this and it's enough. Okay,.

E

Okay, we can do this in the chat room. Also I said yeah.

A

It's but it's better to do it in the chat room and the mind exists because again time zones so yeah they have this office hours, making I'm, not sure that everybody can join this meeting because well, the time probably is not that convenient, especially for some mentors, because yeah a lot of mentors have a meeting. So in this timeframe, so sometimes it's difficult to join.

A

So here you do not expect anybody to everybody to be on this call or yes, sometimes people will be more missing team meetings as well, because your life happens. Everybody has weather strips vacations, family emergencies whatever, so it's better to use communication channels which help conversation history, so that you can easy this information between Shaba.

E

Okay and like apart from this, a common conference will be having like project specific video, contains also, sir, like project specific.

A

Project specific: what conference I know.

E

I mean like the video chat, like project specific, like, for instance, mine, the specific chat channel to like talk about our projects like this happens, to be a common one right. So, yes,.

A

Its expectation from all the teams- and we expect all teams to have at least two meetings every week- okay, all right what you just had to do it, the video chat or whether you decide to do it in the chat it's up to you, but he outs petition that the scene cups, though yes, some teams can be, can experiment. So, for example, if you want to try a service like status, hero whatever to have a synchronous in cups, you can definitely try it, but your expectation that all teams start from regular meetings.

A

Yes, speaking of meetings, yeah a teacher, a variation face.

A

Online meetups or other recorded events, so that you were able to present your work to others. It's truly get to be decided how this year, but yeah we will be setting up times laws for meetings with several mix advanced because immediately it in order to properly announce the event so that we will be creating Google's record at meetings over there go up to schedule, but they do like to have these meetings.

A

There are sample trainings for kitty's. Everything will be recorded, everything posted.

A

So there is nothing from me as well: Martin Jeff. Would you like to add something.

H

Nothing for me.

B

I'm good, nothing from me.

A

Okay, so then yeah thanks everybody for your time next. Regular meeting, please do know one week if there is a need to change the times, thought yell its usage a so chameleon, please, if you want to propose the time, change what you rather default to these time slot. Unless that is definitely a significant need to change it.

F

Maybe so yeah thanks everybody. Thank you. Thank you.