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From YouTube: Jenkins Governance Meeting, Mar 25, 2020
Description
Recording of the regular governance meeting. We discussed the recent news and upcoming Jenkins events. Then we discussed the trademark transition to CDF and the new Contributor License Agreement process we want to introduce. After that we reviewed the upcoming outreach events and approved the budget request for Google Season of Docs.
Full agenda and meeting notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11Nr8QpqYgBiZjORplL_3Zkwys2qK1vEvK-NYyYa4rzg/edit#heading=h.1gtco63t6ztr
A
Hello
and
welcome
to
the
jenkins
governance
meeting
today
is
march
24th
and
we
have
several
contributors
on
the
call,
gary
and
morgan
evelina,
wilkers
mark
waite
and
willie
hoffner
and
me.
So
we
have
several
topics
in
the
agenda.
We
will
talk
about
news.
Then
there
is
cla
process
update,
trademark
transition,
update
and
yeah.
Then
we
can
actually
talk
about
more
interesting
topics
like
jenkins
events
and
what
we
want
to
see
this
year.
A
B
Er,
yes,
why
not
I,
as
as
it
says
in
the
in
the
short
bio
I
work
in
iit
since
I
think
2007
when
I
was
preparing
the
text,
I
was
actually
a
bit
shocked
to
discover
it's
already
that
long
and
a
little
bit
more
than
four
years
ago,
I
started
working
as
a
cicd
consultant
and
straight
away.
I
was
given
jenkins
that
I
was
supposed
to
approach
with
some
kind
of
escode
attitude
and
I'm
still
kind
of
doing
it
as
a
consultant.
B
I
I
work
with
the
variety
of
customers
from
small
single
instance
to
I
have
no
idea
how
many
jenkins
instances
my
current
customer
has,
and
I
I
think
that
gives
me
a
really
good
perspective
regarding
what
what
what
they
are,
what
issues
they
are
facing
and
what
is
what
is
attracting
them
towards
jenkins
and
and
what
is
maybe
the
less
fun
part.
So
I
I
do
hope
that
I
can,
by
being
a
member
of
this
board,
will
help
jenkins
and
help
those
users.
A
Okay,
let's
see
just
yeah.
So
regarding
the
upcoming
events,
we
are
working
on.
Google
summer
of
code
are
less
than
three
weeks
left
until
the
student
application
deadline.
We
have
a
number
of
students
reaching
out
the
traffic
is
slightly
lower
than
in
previous
years,
maybe
because
of
visibility
of
the
project.
So
if
you're
a
mentor
or
if
you're
interested
in
google
summer
of
cold,
please
help
us
to
promote
the
event,
maybe
through
social
media
and
whatever
and
yeah
we'll
be
spending
some
time
in
the
coming
days.
A
Also
to
make
the
announcements,
because
we
did
some
prep
work,
a
few
students
have
recorded
the
videos
we
saw.
The
experiences
from
google
summer
of
code
will
put
student
testimonials
here
and
they
are
pretty
cool,
so
maybe
we
will
republish
them
somehow
and
yep
any
promotion.
It
will
be
appreciated.
A
C
Sure
so
the
the
concept
that
we
had
was
that
the
the
idea
that
she
code
africa
has
is
they
want
to.
They
will
pay
women
for
during
the
month
of
april,
to
write
code
for
open
source
projects,
and
our
project
idea
proposal
is
that
they,
these
developers,
will
build
plugins
and
then
use
their
ability
to
build
those
plugins
to
add
documentation
to
the
plugin
so
that
we
get
better
documentation
for
the
pipeline
steps.
The
arguments
for
pipeline
steps
and
better
examples
for
pipeline,
so
they
learn
how
to
compile
plugins.
C
They
learn
how
to
use
those
plugins
in
jenkins
and
we
get
better
documentation
for
pipeline
steps.
The
most
common
complaint
in
our
documentation
feedback
is
give
me
more
examples
and
give
me
better
documentation,
and
this
is
our
attempt
to
help
these
women,
as
they
learn
more
about
developing
coding
for
jenkins
and
help
us,
as
we
get
a
better
documentation
and
better
experience
for
our
users,
running
pipelines.
A
Thanks
for
the
summary
and
yeah,
so
this
event
is
starting
soon.
So,
if
you're
interested
to
participate,
there
are
still
opportunities
for
mentors.
There
are
also
opportunities
for
mentors
just
consider
that
and
yeah.
Speaking
of
that
today,
we
had
a
presentation
at
another
program
called
a
sprint
of
code.
It's
another
month-long
mentorship
program
and
if
you're
interested,
they
will
be
recording
published
soon.
D
C
Sure
yeah
they'll
happen
in
the
in
the
documentations
channel
and
documentation
sick
channel
on
gitter
and
we'll
we'll
actually
publicly
announce
the
office
hours
we're
going
to
meet
twice
a
week
with
these.
These
people
that
we're
mentoring
and
so
we'll
we'll
assure
that
the
conversations
happen
in
the
sick
channel
and
that
the
it's
known
where
the
where
and
when
the
office
hours
happen.
A
Just
a
second
yeah:
it
wasn't
prepared
to
that
so
yeah,
so,
basically
a
spring
of
code.
We
did
a
presentation
today
about
contributing
to
the
jenkins
project
because
we
were
invited
by
organizers.
So
basically,
a
sprint
of
code
is
organized
by
code
focus
course,
and
it's
a
pretty
popular
organization
in
india.
D
A
Yeah
right
so
and
yeah,
there
is
no
particular
way
for
projects
to
be
represented
to
be
highlighted
on
the
site.
The
approach
is
quite
different,
so
students
basically
select
a
project,
then
start
contributing
and
and
then
there
are
some
mentors
from
the
program
so,
for
example,
one
of
our
g
stock
mentors
hy
actually
sorry.
He
also
participates
in
this
program
and
yeah.
If
you're
interested,
you
can
probably
join
us
mentor
by
contacting
organizers,
I
can
share
the
contacts
and
yeah.
A
A
A
A
A
Nothing
really
terrible
happened,
but
yeah.
The
community
feedback
is
not
good
from
what
we
see
here.
Part
of
the
reason
that
not
all
plugins
for
table
studios
have
been
released
in
time
and
some
plugins
still
need
to
be
released.
Also,
we
have
issue
with
tfs
plugin
we
discussed
before
we
have
issues.
For
example,
scripted
plugin
still
needs
to
be
updated
and
a
few
other
plugins
which
are
widely
used
so
yeah.
C
A
A
A
E
A
A
A
Let's
go
to
the
main
agenda
part,
so
then,
okay,
so
one
bureaucracy,
related
topics
is
cla.
For
this
update,
so
contributor
license.
Agreement
is
related
to
the
trademark
transition.
We
had
recently
so
I'll
just
cover
two
topics
in
parallel,
so
for
trademark
translation,
the
process
is
basically
over.
The
documentation
has
been
updated.
A
E
A
Okay,
all
right,
so
we
got
exclusive
information
from
the
cdf
that
all
these
trademarks
are
fine,
so
linux
foundation,
legal
team
was
in
cc.
They
unite
against
that
and
I
believe
that
this
topic
is
concluded.
Moreover,
there
is
a
proposal
from
tracy
miranda
that
they,
if
you
want
to
have
additional
exception
names,
for
example,
let's
say
company
name
jenki's
platform,
because
we
have
two
company
name
jenkins
platforms
and
approved
list,
so
we
could
introduce
a
certification
process
and
any
distribution
of
jenkins
which
passes
this
certification
could
be
called
such
pattern.
A
C
It's
a
good
question:
yeah,
the
specific
thing
was:
if
they
want
to
name
it
company
name
jenkins
platform
right.
Is
that
isn't
that
what
you're
saying
oh
like
it's?
Not
they
could
still.
I
can
still
use
the
jenkins
trademark
with
following
the
linux
foundation
pattern
I
can
use.
I
could
ask
for
separate
approval
for
a
different
thing,
but
the
specific
platform
idea
was
based
on
their
the
notion
linux
foundation
offers
of
a
certified.
Yes,
this
is
a
is
a
a
good
distribution.
A
Yeah
right,
okay,
so
yeah
we
could
have
a
process
for
that,
though
it's
a
bit
tricky
because
we
could
say
that
it's
you
pass
jenkins
acceptance
test
harness.
So
let's
assume
that
at
least
jenkins
passes
jenkins
acceptance
test
harness
but
yeah
it's
not
the
trivial
way
in
practice
because,
for
example,
we
have
jenkinsfeld
runner.
How
do
we
launch
it,
whether
it's
jenkins
or
not?
But
personally
I
think
it's
not
jenkins,
but
yeah.
A
D
Okay,
so
this
is
sorry
one
thing
on
that.
I
will
say
I
think
in
general
we
should
say
if
a
company
is
running
their
own
distribution
or
run
is
publishing
their
own
distribution,
then
we're
not
going
to
supply
support
for
them,
because
I
I
want
to
like
a
blanket
like
every
time.
Someone
asks
a
question
in
irc
anything
I'm
like
and
they
say
we're
using
cloudbees
whatever
whatever
and
I'm
like.
D
A
A
A
Computer
license
agreement,
so
this
contributor
to
license
agreement.
Basically,
apart
from
a
lot
of
words,
says
that
he
understands
the
trademark.
I
grant
a
copyright
license,
so
it's
just
to
well,
it's
a
part
of
the
meta
license
anyway,
but
yeah.
It's
duplicating
that
there
is
also
a
grant
of
patent
license,
which
is
important
for
many
projects
and
note
that
mit
license
the
license
we
use
by
default
says
nothing
about
patents.
It's
one
of
the
main
differences
versus
apache
license
v2.
A
So
this
is
a
pretty
important
thing
and
yeah,
and
you
say
that,
basically,
you
are
eligible
to
sign
this
agreement,
et
cetera,
et
cetera
so
well.
This
is
basically
the
cla
which
is
used
in
many
open
source
projects,
for
example,
tecton
also
part
of
the
cdf.
They
use
pretty
much
the
same
agreement.
Spid
is
just
replaced
by
the
linux
foundation
and
they
actually,
when
we
move
this
cla,
it's
also
something
we
should
do
so.
There
are
a
few
other
questions,
so
one
of
the
as
a
board
member.
A
I
would
like
to
get
a
rid
of
this
process
and
replace
it
by
easy,
cla
provided
by
the
linux
foundation,
so
just
to
explain
how
it
happens.
Now,
as
a
user
or
as
a
company,
you
have
to
download
this
file
print
it
sign
it
scan
it
encrypt.
It
submit
it
to
the
repository
as
a
pull
request,
or
if
you
accompany
it
to
the
abort
mailing
list,
then
the
recipient
needs
to
decode
signed
documents.
A
A
And
the
proposal
is
to
replace
it
by
lfx
tool,
which
is
called
easy,
cla
and,
for
example,
tekton
already
uses
it
with
cla
and
company
cla
equal
to
what
we
have
in
jenkins
and
basically
this
tool
which
allows
to
make
that
so
that
everything
can
be
done
quite
quickly
through
the
database
and
the
disapprovals
are
stored
on
the
linux
foundation
side.
So
we
don't
have
to
care
about
protecting
personal
data.
That's
why
we
encrypt
it
before
putting
these
files
in
the
repositories
etc.
D
A
A
D
E
D
A
A
D
So
I
think
easy
cla
is
the
same
one.
I've
used
it
on
other
ones
which
essentially
it
adds
a
check
to
the
pr
it
says
you
haven't
signed
it
click
here
you
fill
out
a
form.
I
think
the
screenshots
looked
similar
and
then
that's
it
like
there's,
not
a
lot
of
work.
Does
the
board
have
to
approve
it
after
you
signed
it
or
is
it
just
done,
then?.
D
A
A
A
A
A
D
A
A
D
D
A
A
Okay,
so
yeah
anyway,
it's
a
separate
topic.
I
think
that
yeah
having
a
silly,
if
there
is
easy
process
to
sign
it,
would
be
fine
but
yeah.
The
process
has
to
be
really
easy
for
users,
a
few
clicks
you
know
so
frightening
legal
text
etc,
but
yeah.
We
need
to
firstly
prototype
that,
and
I
would
suggest
that
you
either
do
it
obtain
or
start
from
a
repository
where
we
don't
have
so
many
contributors,
for
example,
remoting
or
something
like
that
and
but
yeah.
A
I
think
that
cli
need
to
be
updated
for
sure
and
that
we
should
do
it
shortly
so
that
we
immigrate
existing
contributors
and
company
contributors.
I
met
some
calculations,
it's
about
few
dozen
people
and
two
companies
which
are
likely
needed,
so
many
other
entities
and
people
don't
actively
contribute,
so
they
don't
need
to
resign
immediately.
A
E
I
mean
it
would.
It
would
certainly
be
interesting
to
know
what
the
options
here
are,
because
I
haven't
really
looked
into
that
before
the
vast
majority
of
contributors
or
members
of
security
team
were
always
are
the
clock
piece
employees
who
I'm
working
with
so
I
mean
unless
they
want
to
get
fired,
they
don't
publish
stuff,
they're,
told
in
in
in
private
and
or
otherwise
long-time
contributors.
Where
I
didn't
really
have
any
concerns.
It
would
be
interesting
to
know
what
the
options
here
are.
A
Yeah
but
our
institution
that
we
have
many
vendors
jenkins,
who
are
not
members
of
the
security
team
and
well,
it
means
that
if
somebody
uses
these
distributions
most
likely,
they
have
a
problem
and
yeah
from
the
extent
of
the
state
of
the
jenkins
community.
I
would
rather
like
to
see
these
vendors
represented
on
the
security
team,
but
they
may
make
things
much
more
complicated
in
terms
of
this
bureaucracy.
E
E
E
I
regularly,
if,
if
people
stop
their
activities
in
the
security
team,
I've
repeatedly
removed
them
from
the
team
and
said
well,
you
know
just
for
security
reasons,
it's
good
practice
if
you
don't
contribute
you're
going
to
lose
the
access
and
yeah.
So
while
we
have
occasionally
people
contribute
from
the
from
the
community
who
are
not,
you
know
basically
working
on
it
full
time.
E
A
There,
okay,
so
we
could
review
that
yeah.
We
first
need
to
find
out
whether
there
are
existing
precedents
in
the
linux
foundation,
so
whether
we
could
reuse
the
existing
legal
framework
most
likely.
There
is
something
for
linux
and
other
big
projects,
and
you
can
see
where
they
would
be
applicable
to
the
jenkins
project
organization.
A
C
D
E
B
E
A
E
So,
while
we're
discussing
plugins
and
class
what
what
what
about
plugins,
where
that
already
require
a
cla,
but
for
someone
else
are
there
any
such
plugins,
I
mean
we
have
a
bunch
of
companies
important,
for
example,
artifactory
plugin
is
oh
right.
Yeah,
so
does
this
clash,
would
they
do
toothier
layers?
Do
we
throw
them
out?
Is
this
okay?
What's
the
is
this
compatible.
A
Also,
I'm
not
sure
how
silly
could
be
compatible
with
our
adoption
process,
because
one
minute
requires
cla
and
then
somebody
adopts
the
plugin
and
removes
all
these
requirements.
How
does
it
work?
I
don't
know
so
easily.
We
should
set
expectations
from
newly
hosted
plugins,
but
there
is
no
additional
cli
required.
E
A
A
A
A
So
it
will
be
day
after
cdcon,
and
for
that
I
start
the
coordination
talk
where
we
can
collect
topics.
So,
if
you're
interested
to
purpose
something
big,
it's
a
good
opportunity
to
discuss,
because
I
think
that
we
could
use
this
summit
to
actually
bring
really
hot
topics
like
what
do
we
do
with
jenkins?
Three,
also
how
we
align
jenkins
with
jenkins
sex
questions.
X3
will
include
jenkins
again
and
topics
like
that.
A
D
A
D
A
A
One
of
the
topics
which
may
pop
up
with
java
17
compatibility
what
we
do
with
it,
but
if
you
want
to
have
hackfest
again,
maybe
and
yeah.
So
if
you
have
any
other
ideas
in
mind,
please
submit
them
because
yeah
I'm
not
sure
how
we
will
be
coordinating
that.
But
knowing
expectations
about
events
would
help
and
for
me,
like
we
discussed
before
the
meetings.
I
consider
myself
as
acting
comment
officer,
and
my
main
priority
remains
to
find
new
organizers
and
to
onboard
somebody
to
take
this
role.
D
D
Yeah,
so
I've
been
reaching
out
to
people
who
are
in
the
marketing
and
event
space
and
saying
you
know
if
you're
looking
to
get
into
this
this
space,
it's
a
good
opportunity
to
be
mentored
and
practice
in
an
environment.
That's
a
little
bit
more
fostering
than
a
new
job,
so
I'm
still
reaching
I'm
still
trying.
But
I
haven't
found
anyone
yet.
A
Yeah
so
apparently
there
are
so
many
event:
managers
on
basically
fun
vacation
now,
but
not
so
many
people
were
really
interested
in
doing
these
events,
I
was
talking
with
a
few
people
from
different
companies.
I
know
basically
inviting
them
to
spend
some
time
in
open
source
directly
because
hey
it
may
help
you
to
build
your
portfolio
to
find
another
job
etc.
D
D
A
D
D
A
C
Sure,
google
season
of
docs
is
different
this
year
in
many
respects.
One
of
the
differences
is
they
ask
that
we
submit
a
budget
proposal
that
we
will
then
use
to
pay
the
writer
that,
and
we
will
pay
the
writer
from
the
jenkins
project
for
the
writing
that
they
do.
If
our
project
is
accepted
by
google
season
of
docs,
they
will
issue
40
of
the
funds
immediately
to
us
so
that
we
can
then
engage
the
writer
and
begin
the
process.
C
C
So
what
I've
realized
now
after
looking
at
it
is
that
means
we
should
expect
that
this
writer
will
be
part-time
and
part-time
is
okay,
that's
great!
It's
just
what
budget
amount
should
we
do
which?
What
budget
route
should
we
request
so
that
we
don't
cause
them
to
panic?
But
we
have
a
good
chance
of
recruiting
a
google
season
of
docs
a
candidate.
A
A
So
I
would
make
a
guess
that
if
we
use
these
numbers
as
a
reference,
we
would
be
able
to
find
somebody,
definitely
not
a
professional
writer
based
in
san
francisco
but
yeah.
You
could
actually
find
somebody
who
would
be
interested,
but
I
think
that
it
would
be
still
an
expectation
that
is
part
time
and
that
is
deepened
now
to
the
salary,
because
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
no
legal
way
to
pay
salary
in
the
vast
majority
of
these
countries.
C
So
agreed
agreed
that
stipend
is
the
right
approach
and
I
like
the
idea
of
using
this,
I'm
prone
to
say,
let's
ask
google
for
6000,
or
maybe
nine
thousand,
on
the
notion
that
that
will
get
us
four
to
seven
months
of
time.
The
project
is
intended
to
go
for
seven
months,
but
we
would
just
reduce
the
effort
as
necessary
to
use
those
funds.
C
A
C
A
C
C
I
think
we
should.
I
think
that
number
is
wrong
and
we
should
reduce
it
to
ask
for
six
thousand
and
then
I
I
admit
now
thinking
six
thousand
would
be
a
thousand
a
month.
That's
a
that's
lower
than
even
the
lowest
of
the
google
summer
of
code,
but
we
would
just
scale
the
effort
to
match
the
benefit
there
is
that
fits
with
google's
guidelines
for
how
much
should
be
requested.
We
could
ask
for
more,
I
think,
we're
a
good
candidate,
but
the
more
we
ask
for
the
greater
the
chances
will
be
rejected.
A
Yeah
so
one
thing
that
we
can
actually
spend
more
money
than
we
get
from
google
because
well
there
are
multiple
opportunities,
firstly
travel
ground.
Secondly,
we
could
just
use
additional
budget
if
we
decide
to
do
so,
so
I
think
it
would
be
up
to
our
discretion.
If
we
decide
to
do
so,
but
yeah,
if
you
get
accepted,
then
we
get
the
budget.
If
you
don't
get
accepted
because
we
asked
for
100k,
then
it's
completely
different
story
right.
A
A
C
A
A
C
A
But
it
will
be
there
so
just
to
explain
how
the
payment
would
happen.
You
have
fully
lfx
crowdfunding,
so
basically
it's
well
crowdfunding
platform.
It's
integrated
with
mentorship
and
mentorship
is
the
way
how
we
could
basically
legally
handle
this
stipend
by
using
the
linux
foundation
framework.
So
basically,
we
cannot
register
for
the
students
in
the
system
or
otherwise,
and
then
the
linux
foundation
can
do
the
payment
through
expensify
and
then
all
funny
and
interesting
things
like
taxes
won't
be
our
problem
right
so
and
yeah.
A
My
expectation
is
that
google
money
would
also
land
in
the
crowdfunding
and
currently
just
to
show
it
to
you.
We
have
more
than
3000
there
from
the
nations
and
well.
We
have
never
really
invested
in
promoting
the
nations
but
yeah
we
if
needed,
we
can
probably
raise
more
money
plus
we
have
still
several
suburban
on
the
on
other
accounts.
So.
A
A
A
E
A
Well,
we
spent
quite
a
number
of
quite
a
lot
of
money
on
outreach
on
other
programs
also
on
payments
plus.
I
do
not
include
the
json
budget,
because
json
budget
is
separate
according
to
japan,
but
physically
they
are
on
the
same.
The
money
are
on
the
same
account
so
yeah.
If
we
talk
about
running
our
own
outreach
programs,
probably
we
should
think
about
fundraising
or
promoting
donations
a
bit
but
yeah
until
we
start
3d
spending
money,
you'll
be
okay,.
A
Okay,
so
I
will
set
for
g-shot.
So
one
thing
is
about
crowdfunding
platform,
so
right
now,
according
to
jab,
whatever
it's
still
in
preview
and
from
what
I
know,
I'm
the
only
person
who
has
access
to
the
expensify
backend.
So
probably,
I
should
add
other
board
members
to
that
until
we
start
doing
serious
payments
and.
A
A
A
E
A
Yeah,
so
we
still
have
some
dependencies.
We
need
to
update,
for
example,
groovy
update,
especially
if
you
want
to
support
java
17
anytime
soon
and
also
there
is
basically
a
marketing
side,
because
yeah
jenkins
3
could
be
used
as
an
opportunity
to
promote
jenkins,
promote
new
approaches.
So,
for
example,
full
configuration
is
called
infrastructures
code,
new
management,
new
packaging,
and
something
like
that
so
pretty
similar
to
what
we
did
for
jenkins,
2
and
pipeline
and
pipeline
was
basically
available
before,
but
with
jinx
2.
A
We
said
that
you
want
to
have
it
as
a
standard
or
something
like
that,
so
we
could
try
to
do
the
same
for
jenkins
three,
but
again,
all
of
that
is
just
hand
waving
at
the
moment.
We
need
to
really
discuss
what
we
want
to
do
so,
for
example,
today
alexa
asked
whether
we
want
to
drop
support
for
java
8.
A
A
So
sorry
about
that
and
yeah
next
time,
let's
try
to
not
go
over
time
and
next
time.
I
think
in
two
weeks
there
is
nothing
major
going
to
happen.
Note
that
the
meeting
happens
at
6
pm
in
utc.
So
if
you're,
based
in
australia
in
europe
that
time
zone
change
is
yet
to
happen
and
the
meeting
time
will
change.