Jenkins Platform SIG, 4 Jul 2019

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Jenkins platform special interest group meeting July 4, 2019.

Topics include performance test framework, plugin installation manager tool, release drafter tool use, and Windows installer status

A

Welcome everyone to the platform of special interest group: let's look at the agenda I'm going to share my screen to show that it's the Independence Day weekend in the United States, and so some of our u.s. participants may not be here today. Here are the items that I have on our list for today. Oh here, I can do it this other way there.

A

So we'll talk about open action items. We had an option to have Natasha to talk about the plug-in installation manager tool and its latest latest iterations Natasha's US base. So she may be out today Windows installer status, again Alex row may be out today Oleg if you'd be willing, we'd love to hear a comment on progress with release drafter and how that's going okay and then performance test framework and I'm, not sure that you dia is going to be here today. So, oh like.

A

If there's something you want to report there, that would be great, otherwise we'll defer it to another time. I think.

B

That we can just exclude from agenda because yeah, like we discussed that last meeting, everything because in place it was even blog post- was released by the time of the previous meeting. So basically the part for performance test final is done. We will be doing some improvements, but only on that hot bassist. So when we elect some features, the framework is fully completed is available is documented. So for my wins interested you can just stop using it and there is a blog post for that rate.

A

Excellent, alright, so and I'm going to put a to do for me, because I really want this one, which is mark, use the framework to compare git, client, 2.8 and 3.0 in particular, we've got Oh. That was mistake. In particular, we've got a major component change inside that the J get upgrade.

A

B

Excellent all right, thank you, yeah and, if you want, I can also summarize the the work with Natasha. Oh okay,.

A

Very good, most of that, let's have you take that topic, then summary of iolite, three.

B

Years so, basically, to summarize it again I'm going to put a link to the blog post, but generally last week we had the current state of the plug-in installation manager to the to has been released as alpha version. So, if somebody wants, you can try it out, but it just version is a wave over for users basically replicates instantaneously from doctor, but yeah there will be a more vicious in it soon.

B

Excellent. Thank you. Thanks.

A

Very much then, in terms of back to the open action items, I don't have anything to report other than that. The action items that our listeners open remain open for me, I assume similar for you all. There yeah.

A

Now I see you mentioning, the configuration is code plug-in. Is there anything here that we need to be discussing I assume that it's sub project work is ongoing. Nothing specific to platform just continues, yeah, nothing specific.

B

The platform so a we do have some of it a lot of course, but nothing for this specific in the moment, I just edited to provide some.

A

Context great, thank you thanks very much so since Alex isn't here, that would tend to lead us to skip the installer status. You're willing to give the current status on the reliefs. Drafter I know that we I saw a pull request to the Jenkins repository itself to the.

B

You should be.

A

B

B

Wings again, you can find some examples here, but yeah. Basically, an almost all effective development tools have been already updated for this drop. So, for example, Jenkins test harness is here and.

B

Plug in compatibility test that has been also moved to reduce draft. This repository didn't have the nice flow or this process at all for one, but now we get some automated immunity drugs. What humans, which is quite a number of changes when a change is coming from in sesay, use, ease fulfillment. It is about the application, use a lot of changes generated because half games with mentioned and contributors and all these releases are basically generated. Just a configuration of several lines.

B

The rest comes from the global configuration and getting a problem is, he described, hope you use it.

A

Okay, there were some. There were some initial questions with regard to permissions on repository, so if I enable this for the get plugin, for instance it's as simple as adding a release drafter tamil to the to the github directory. On my repository on the repository, I maintain and that's it.

B

Not exactly because you also need to enable Italy structure, some do not enable it for the entire organization we enable fit only for depositories we manage and if somebody wants to see the route options. So if you are doing your repository, it can just contribute in yo if you're, not adding, meaning you can create an infra, take it and really that difficult it for you. But you, after that, you can press it.

B

So the consideration is to need to give the money in security, because here release drops that still requires food right access, so that means dry cakey. She will be able to see no changes, push code, etc. While assuming there was any code to do that in this application. But from the security perspective here is a decision to be made by mentals.

B

So it's below the like I depend a lot on other tools here, the trusted only you do not trust it, but we won't enable it by default, but in the case of gift plugin, since you don't have continuous delivery in your repository, and so even if it is draft that integrates something to this, the rafter doesn't have permission to deploy the release to drink in so whatever so here for this repositories, we are not concerned at all.

B

The concern comes from the repositories which have a kind of intensity of connection on base, for example, for plug-in compatibility test that in years we have continues delivery for dr. images here, but the this is a development tool, so basically within image, but if it was a production image, of course, there will be more security considerations with all that.

B

Was available either some other stories, so basically this changelog could delete and we go to number of issues in ways. Change focus on this change. Locates on 3d structure is not regenerate immediately. It's finished manager, but here we had a discussion, is Daniel about what, if we HTS right well to me something at least for draft purposes. So this change locally is currently.

B

In here we can find, for example, a weekly and just.

B

So this is which describes this change rock. So much is found that it's much readable. That means the Raftery is not much printable per side because the gr8 smart town, but we would be still interested to have some at least automation and what I've done and I just made an experiment which actually I think is released drafted to generate jenkees compatible humans. So this is a request for that.

B

Basically generates change, looks like a bed, so it's fully compliant with the form of engineering theater quickly. Gamal Daniel bed has a script which generates drafts and he you've done I just helped reduce, drag her drafter configuration to generate markdown, which includes siamo, which enclose our change lock.

B

There are some details there, for example, to parse issue references and to put them to Emily. It was less trivial than just putting that because well, there is no engine for that. It also a generic type automatically.

B

That I think is created to release draft that in order to retrieve this information, but these generate some stops and the current needs in review, and probably you have it and if we integrate that, maybe in addition to generated change logs, you know we don't have something in it: half releases, but mostly as preview so answer that whom are we interested will be able to go there and to see this video before me finds matter. This is the final version, so this is then idea behind them and behind it yeah.

B

There were some comments, for example, from JC. What, if you just go all in it happens and or some motivations, so right now, it's not in the scope of one prototype, but they somebody is interested to do that and you're welcome to do so.

A

See and I I like the notion that what you're presenting is a draft that anyone can read in the repository at anytime and then Daniel can paste it to the official changelog and publish it when or you, whoever whoever is running the acting in that role gets to use it instead of the scripting that is already being used so that that seems very attractive. Thank you for doing that.

A

B

Hopefully, we'll get it so basically I'm waiting for feedback from Daniel about next steps, because yeah one of the ways is totally yeah. We could really generate these change logs in github releases. We can then implement problems which would take this change logs and say also that we are not expected to do something on Mondays or even worse, on beacons, but yet so far, just experiment how much away influence and what the influence at all yeah would see.

A

Yeah, thank you. I I think it's it's elegant, so the generating yeah mole from release drafter I assume that's not necessarily something that the original authors had ambition. That's really cool! You know.

B

It's so basically a creative ticket to make it more defined. So here, for example, you can see that yeah Monte Tim Lucas's 19 out of the destructor, so he provided some feedback. So maybe we do have something like that, but it it's yet to be defined, and we hear it looks like somebody. Experiments change as well.

B

A

B

Yes, so Daniel Bateman, we can it so. Basically, it's a copy basis of somebody. Just experiments with our stuff I haven't show who's it, but both any experiments are much appreciated.

B

Jenkins, whatever.

B

Okay, so yeah. This is something I hope to learn eventually yep full disclaimer mine, important.

A

Excellent. Thank you.

A

Thanks very much and I see that Alex Earl has joined us. Hello, Alex welcome.

C

A

Had put a topic on the agenda and assumed with since its independence today in the US that you might not might not join us great. That you're here I think we should switch to that topic now and I'm going to share my screen again. So we can see the agenda I.

A

Think I've got the right one shared. Can everybody see the agenda?

A

Yeah I can great, so Oleg has provided us an update on plug-in, install manager and our performance test framework and just finished this release. Drafter Alex, your timing is perfect. You want to give us a status report on the windows installer, so.

C

I'm continued working with old block I can't remember it's real first name. Thank.

B

C

You on the infrastructure, it's kind of hard he's on a very different time zone, so having direct contact, we're usually offset by quite a bit of time. It seems like we're just trying to get that the trusted agent up and working and then I can start testing the framework build though windows agent, I, should say.

A

Great. Thank you anything else that you wanted to share as an update there.

C

I've also, it's not directly related to this, but I've started hacking on the docker images or the agents, as well as the the Jenkins docker image, but for Windows.

C

That that's currently not there I've submitted to PRS so far for the ILP agent and the normal agent images that kind of work in progress, because there's no way to build them on CI dot, Jenkins right now, Oleg mentioned that docker hub may be a good place to do that for those so I looked at also looking at their possibly, although once we I think once we get the trusted, CI windows agents set up, it should be able to be on the ancien khun's as well. So that may alleviate that problem as well.

A

Great, that's! That's now, I wasn't aware of docker support inside the Jenkins infrastructure at all for Windows, as an agent so are. Is there work that you happened elsewhere? That's allowing that to actually succeed so.

C

This is this, isn't necessarily for agents on Siena Jenkins they're, just in a request from a few people recently for docker images for agents, but they can run within their own infrastructure.

A

Yeah, okay, so so this would be a Windows hosting the agent, the doctor agent, and it would run there for running a Windows operating system windows in the agent yeah.

C

Windows windows docker can run both Linux and Windows containers, but this is a Windows container itself. Okay,.

A

Thank you. That's cool, because I could certainly benefit from that. There are plenty of cases where I need Windows on docker for certain set of plugins that I maintain.

B

Yes, before agent, they were just basically.

B

It was Co agents, maybe look a cup of containers to get afloat, so you can add whatever you want in the doctor file since delivering.

C

That and see see what would be necessary for that from the in terms of building these items. It looked when I when I looked the other day, it didn't look like they had support for Windows containers. Yet so so it looked like out, there may be the best solution for the Windows containers right now,.

B

Yeah, maybe maybe there are other SACD services, so basically a doctor club doesn't work for us. It looks like poor trash and will be called shape or whatever. If any of them supports. Doctor images, windows.

C

Ok, cohort o'clock, yeah.

B

If it's a theater, it's even better, because you already for some companies built from up here founder.

A

So the comforts we have on that fear right now is that witness X W so yeah. We.

B

Service reputable sports management, fireplace built or not beard because getting your. So there are two issues you see, I didn't say it first, it doesn't provide enough Windows infrastructure. We need to just a multiple windows versions, which is not available. We need visual studio of particular patients, also not available so going forward. Use appear to use the most straightforward way for me and the second problem that Debbie's projects I still not within his organization and github there. Within making his personal the repository, we had some discussions about moving than what we have.

B

Here so we might want to move that and look it when I was talking to the last time. She was strongly against I didn't achieve all convenience outside the Jenkins organization, even if we think is consumers.

A

I see so so is that well so needs more discussion. More investigation sounds useful. That's very useful, great anything else. Alex, no.

C

That's all for me thanks. Oh.

A

Like anything further from you specific, alright I think we've can reach the end of our session and thanks very much.

C

Thank you have a great day thanks, everybody yeah nothing killed.

B