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A
A
What's
coming
in
UI
improvements,
work
in
progress,
user
feedback,
I
think
this
one
I
don't
see
any
new
topics
for
it.
I'd
propose
to
leave
it
here
unless
the
rest
of
you
say,
hey
we're
done
with
this.
Any
other
topics
should
be
added
to
the
agenda.
A
A
A
C
Awesome
all
right
so
just
go
over
some
of
the
improvements
that
have
come
recently
to
Jenkins,
so
I
guess
I'll
start
from
the
dashboard
one
of
the
items
on
the
thread
that
was
posted,
I,
think
last
Duets.
Meeting
lots
of
good
suggestions
so
definitely
take
them
on
board.
One
of
them
was
kind
of
replacing
the
icon
Legend
rather
than
having
a
full
page.
It's
quite
heavy.
C
We
have
a
lightweight
model,
it's
also
quite
a
nice
kind
of
pattern
that
can
be
reused
across
Jenkins,
so
easily
dismissable
very
fast
to
interact
with
any
kind
of
gets
heavier
when
you
don't
need
it.
It's
quite
nice
I'm
working
on
a
PR
at
the
moment,
which
I
think
I
may
have
demonstrated
many
moons
ago,
which
will
kind
of
redo
the
confirmation
dialogues.
C
C
We
can
Now
display
that
in
a
more
visual
way,
but
it's
kind
of
more
apparent
to
the
user
kind
of
what
they're
doing.
It's
quite
nice
next
up
very
recently,
was
kind
of
renaming
some
of
the
settings,
not
just
a
simplification
of
the
naming
scheme,
so
I
believe
previously
it
was
like
configure
system
manage
notes
and
clouds
just
dropped.
C
The
kind
of
starting
word,
it's
kind
of
simpler,
there's,
an
update
for
the
credentials
plugged
in
I,
don't
believe
it's
been
merged
yet,
but
hopefully
soon,
which
will
just
update
the
icons
as
well
as
adopt
the
kind
of
simplified
gaming
scheme
and
then,
lastly,
on
the
managed
side,
just
gotta
refreshed
about
Jenkins,
just
a
bit
cleaner
solve
some
of
the
issues
we
had
at
the
sidebar
previously,
where,
like
the
version,
wasn't
easily
copyable,
and
we
now
have
a
little
get
involved,
link
to
kind
of
push
people
in
the
direction
of
getting
involved,
which
is
nice
and
that's.
A
Could
you
take
it
well,
could
you
continue
sharing?
Could
you
take
it
back?
One
page
I
think
there
was
one
point
that
it
was:
oh,
no,
maybe
this
okay
I'm
I'm,
not
sure
this
was
I've.
It's
now
slipped
my
mind.
Sorry!
That's
there
was
there
was
a
capability.
You
added
that
looked
especially
interesting
to
me.
Go
back
one
more
page,
John
yep!
A
Oh
right
right!
It
was
the
pop-up
dialogue.
Okay,
you
described
something
I
do
frequently,
which
is
I
clean
things
up
by
deleting
builds
and-
and
you
were
saying
that
ins,
whereas
icon
Legend
now
has
has
a
nice
modal
that
appears
in
page,
because,
when
I
delete
a
build
today,
I
get
a
big
ugly
browser
driven
pop-up
you're
gonna
delete
something.
Okay.
Your
intention
is
to
switch
that
as
well
that
eventually,
that
will
become
a
modal
that
appears
in
page
instead
of
being
a
separate
window
generated
by
the
browser.
Yeah.
C
I
believe
there's
some
inconsistencies
as
well,
depending
on
the
type
of
item
you're
deleting
you
might
get
a
full
page
delete.
Sometimes
you
might
get
a
little
alert
yeah
a
little
consistent
as
well.
Oh.
B
A
Yeah,
okay,
so
so,
if
you
go
into
hello
world,
that's
there,
oh
you,
you
probably
don't
have
I
could
I
could
show
it,
because
the
one
I
usually
do
is
not
delete
pipeline
I'm
deleting
an
individual
build
or
an
individual
branch
in
a
in
a
multi-branch
job.
That's
now
done
and
when
I
do
that
I
get
this
pop-up.
That
is
a
is
a
browser
alert
and
it's
really
a
browser
alert.
B
A
C
Yeah,
where
are
they.
A
A
C
There
is
there's
another
PR
at
the
moment,
which
is
kind
of
on
the
discussion
about
renaming,
manage
Jenkins,
the
actual
page
just
to
be
settings,
but
we'll
see
where
that
goes.
A
C
There
is
relating
to
the
drop
downs
I'm,
currently
working
on
updating
the
political,
hetero
lists
and
kind
of
repeatable
element
list
to
use
the
new
drop
down.
C
Will
be
separate:
okay,
yeah,
but
I'll
look
identical,
I'll,
just
kind
of
go
through
more
of
the
system.
A
Any
other
questions
that
others
want
to
ask.
So
this
was
you
said
it
was
a
improved
consistency
of
drop
downs.
Yes,
yeah.
C
For
the
kind
of
repeatable
list
element.
A
A
D
A
E
I
have
some
questions:
okay,
so
I'm,
a
new
contributor
and
I
would
really
like
to
contribute
to
the
UI
ux
part
of
the
sentence
and
I
would
really
appreciate.
Some
guidance
on
where
should
I
start
at
all
seems
very
overwhelming.
A
So
one
of
the
one
of
the
thoughts
that
I
had
earlier
today
sayantan
was
consider
reviewing
and
testing
existing
pull
requests
and
then
use
that
review
and
test
to
familiarize
yourself
with
the
development
technique.
So
Jan's,
Yan's,
pull
requests
or
Tim's
pull
requests
or
ulis
or
or
others
tend
to
highlight,
the
techniques
that
are
used
and
then
feedback
on
them.
Oh
hey,
I,
tested
this
and
it
behaved.
This
way
is,
is
appreciated
and
will
also
let
you
see.
Oh,
this
is
how
they
use
CSS.
A
C
I
think,
looking
at
the
existing
Jenkins
issues
as
well-
oh
right,
they
might
be
kind
of
small
priority,
but
still
important
issues
that
have
always
listed
for
for
years,
for
example,
that
no
one's
at
the
time
to
actually
get
around
to
doing
it.
But
you
know
it
was
hop
on
them.
F
And
another
point
is
to
look
at
things
which
you
are
interested
in
so
because
I'm
interested
in
build
results,
I'm
just
changing
the
user
interface
of
build
results
and
if
you
are
interested,
for
instance,
in
changing
nodes
or
something
like
that,
then
focus
on
that
theme.
Because
Jenkins
is
so
big.
You
can't
yeah
work
everywhere.
So
you
need
to
pick
your
topic
and
the
best
thing
is
to
pick
the
topic
you're
really
interested
in.
So
what
is
the
most
thing?
What
you're
interested
in
Jenkins?
E
So
I
took
up
an
issue
in
the
design,
Library
plugin,
it's
a
old
issue,
but
when
I
started
working
on
it,
I
found
that
there
are
many
things.
I
do
not
understand
and
I,
don't
know
how
to
approach.
The
maintainers
I
have
asked
questions
in
the
issue
itself,
but
I
think
the
maintainer
is
busy.
A
Okay,
because
that
that
location,
that
location
may
have
more
people
watching
it
than
are
watching
a
specific
issue
right
when
you,
when
a
comment
in
a
GitHub
issue,
is
like
a
comment
in
a
bug
report
on
jira,
where
you
may
get
two
or
three,
or
maybe
four
people
who
are
watching
it,
whereas
the
chat
channels
we've
got,
we
have
more,
we
have
more
people
watching
them.
You
may
have
a
better
chance
of
getting
an
answer.
A
E
A
A
I'm,
not
sure
that
say
thinking
you're
going
to
contribute
active
development
on
current
pull
requests
is
probably
too
optimistic.
Right
you've
got
to
develop
some
skills.
Initially
at
least
that's
my
assumption.
F
Do
we
still
have
the
labels
in
jira,
so
I
think
if
we
look
for
a
user
interface
or
user
experience
or
ux
in
jira,
we
will
have
a
lot
of
issues
where
someone
can
start
with
so
I'm,
not
sure
if
we
have
a
link
somewhere
with
these
labels,
but
not
yeah
I
think
I
can
click
it
now
and
share
it
later
here
in
the
chat.
A
A
They
are
the
they
are
the
preferred
components
used
by
Jenkins
John.
Is
that
a
safe
way
to
say
it
saying
that
their
latest
Jenkins
is
18
years
of
of
software
development,
and
there
are
things
that
are
popular
that
are
not
that
are
frequently
used
that
are
not
latest
design.
Library
is
intended
to
be
a
view
of
how
things
should
be
and
how
we
want
them
to
be,
and
what
the
what
the
preferred
approach
is.
A
So
actually
one
one
technique
might
be
looking
at
the
techniques
used
in
the
design,
Library
attempt
to
apply
those
techniques
to
some
of
the
some
of
the
older
components.
Thinking
of
the
get
plug-in
as
an
example,
thinking
of
some
others
where
they
aren't
using
the
good
practices
that
are
highlighted
in
the
design
Library,
they
need
to
be
updated
to
use
those
good
practices.
A
I
guess
now
now
I'm
going
to
ask
when
Jan,
Jan
and
Uli
and
Tim
I've
got
some
groovy
code
sitting
in
the
git
plug-in
that
I
would
love
to
get
rid
of
from
its
UI
and
have
it
replaced
with
jelly.
Is
that
something
that
would
be
good
for
someone
like
sayantan
to
take
on,
or
is
that
too
exotic
and
no
don't
don't?
Okay,
Tim's
flinchings,
Kim
I
see
the
Flinch,
that's
good,
okay,
so.
B
A
D
D
A
That
might
be
one
that
yeah
that
okay,
that's
hadn't,
hadn't
considered
that
when
there
you
might,
we
might
let
me
see
if
I
can
have
Scion
if
you're
interested
and
see
if
Christine
is
interested
in
working
with
you
on
that
one.
That's
certainly
one
that
she's
interested
in
and
it
is
an
area
that
I
don't
think,
there's
a
lot
of
interest
from
others
nearly
as
passionately
about
it
as
some
of
the
things
that
we've
got
in
other
places
in
the
Jenkins
UI
foreign.
F
Just
interested
in
CSS
or
things
like
that,
you
can
have
a
look
at
the
Dark
theme
plugin
and
see
yeah
how,
if
every
page
already
works
with
this
plugin
because,
for
instance,
my
tables
are
not
working
in
the
dark
theme
plugin.
So
maybe
that's
something
you
can
have
without
jelly
and
just
with
plain
CSS,
how
can
we
make
all
themes
work
for
every
element
in
Jenkins?
So
this
is
a
totally
different
topic.
D
A
I,
never
know
what
nope
I'll
have
to
paste
it
later.
Apparently,
I,
don't
know
how
to
do
copy
and
paste.
F
Yeah
I
have
two
questions
or
one
question
which
I'm
wondering
if,
if
what
we
are
doing
with
this
topic,
so
can
you
show
a
one
Jenkins
instance
Market
just
to
I
sure
can.
F
Weekly,
that's
fine,
one
thing
that
which
is
required
for
my
plugins
to
get
us
a
one-page
screen
where
I
can
view
everything
in
one
page
and
and
currently
we
have
this
footer
and
and
somehow
this
footer
is
some
kind
of
overlay,
so
I'm
wondering
how
we
can
make
it
that
I
can
have
a
stream
page
right.
Maybe
this
is
the
wrong
page,
maybe
some
detail
page,
so
you
can
just
click
into
a
project
and
open
some
yeah.
Okay.
Normally
this
page
is
a
little
bit
longer.
So
you
need
to
scroll.
A
A
Ci.Jenkins.Io
is
very
busy
right
now.
We
we
piled
a
thousand
plus
jobs
into
its
queue
yesterday
and
it's
still
recovering
so
I
may
have
to
go
here.
Let's
go
to
a
different
one,
we'll
look
at
my
personal
server,
okay.
So
let's
look
here
here
and
maybe
we
look
here
here
and
you
want.
Maybe
we
want
to
see
something
that
has
interesting
results
like
this?
Yes,.
F
Yes-
and
here
we
see
the
the
footer
is-
is
gone,
it's
just
somewhere
in
the
Nirvana,
so
what
I
would
like
to
have
is
this
photo
stay,
always
on
top,
so
I
can
have
the
page
on
the
yeah
where
the
build
is
this
page
should
actually
only
scroll
and
not
the
footer,
so
I'm
not
sure.
Why
is
our
footer
scrolling?
A
For
me,
I
would
I
personally
at
least
prefer
that
the
footer
stays
off
my
screen
most
of
the
time
so
I
guess
I've
got
a
different
view
than
you
do
holy
I'm,
not
sure
what
others
position
is,
but
I,
don't
like
it
when
Footers
stick
to
the
bottom,
particularly
when
all
they've
got
in
them
is
a
little
bit
of
version
information
and
a
link
to
the
rest
API.
For
me,
that's
that's
real
estate
that
I've
sacrificed
by
not
by
if
it
stays
on
screen.
F
You
know
I
think
that
the
main
problem
is
that
we
are
scrolling
the
left
side.
The
side
panel
is
also
scrolling,
so
in
in
my
ideal
world
the
side
panel
would
stay
without
scrolling
and
scrolling
would
be
only
this
page
where
the
build
information
is,
but
maybe
yeah
I
have
a
different
opinion.
That's
okay,.
F
So
what
I
try
to
do
is
to
create
my
results
so
that
you
don't
have
to
scroll
the
results,
so
scrolling
is
something
which
I
don't
like
at
all.
So
what
I
would
like
to
have
is
one
page
where
you
can
see
everything
in
your
page
and
in
order
to
achieve
that,
I
need
to
have
a
fixed
size
of
the
screen,
for
instance,
here
I.
What
I
wanted
to
achieve
is
to
to
have
this
page
fill
the
full
screen
that
is
available,
but
not
more
So.
Currently
it's
some.
F
You
know
some
tricks
that
it
is
yeah,
not
really
scrolling,
but
you
see
it.
It's
currently
scrolling,
but
I
don't
want
to
scroll.
So
is
this
something
we
are
gonna
or
want
to
have,
or
is
this
just
relevant
from
My,
Views
and
I
need
to
make
an
extra
way
on
my
plugins,
so
I
don't
know
what
others
think.
A
So
so
your
goal
here
is
to
stay
above
the.
What
I'm
used
to
calling
the
fold
so
that
I
don't
have
to
scroll
downward
right.
So
yeah
you
want
to
keep
as
much
information
as
possible
above
the
folder,
particularly
the
most
important
information
above
the
fold,
but
you
don't
know
where
the
fold
is
is
that
is
the
reality
is,
for
instance,
if.
F
I
click
on
the
file
coverage,
then
you
see
the
files
just
on
the
tab
right
like
that.
Yes-
and
now
this
I
want
that
this
part
is
filling
100
of
the
screen
a
lot
more.
So
how
can
I
achieve
that?
This
is
really
annoying
that
I
need
to
scroll.
I
don't
want
to
scroll,
because
the
table
itself
will
populate
figure
out
how
many
columns
or
rows
are
available.
F
The
table
will
grow
at
that
size,
but
now
I
have
this
scroll
bar
and
I
want
to
get
rid
of
this
scroll
bar,
but
this
is
not
possible
yet
so
I'm
wondering
if
we
should
try
to
achieve
that
or
if
we,
if,
if
nobody
wants
it,
it's
okay,
then
I
need
to
look
how
I
can
make
it
in
my
plugins
but
I.
Think
in
general,
these
pages
should
not
scroll.
A
I'm
not
sure
so
right
now.
What
you're
saying
I
think
is
that
the
the
height
of
this
table
that
we
see
the
one
that's
that's,
coverage
of
all
files
is
determined
by
a
guess,
rather
than
by
the
explicit
geometry
of
my
my
browser
window.
Yes,.
F
F
A
F
Yeah,
this
is
a
different
another
problem,
so
first
of
all,
I
would
like
to
have
the
sidebar
have
a
different
scrolling
that
the
rest
So.
Currently
the
side
power
is
locked
with
the
content,
which
makes
no
sense
in
my
way.
So
every
other
application
has
a
fixed
sidebar,
which
Scrolls
only
the
sidebar
and
not
the
content,
and
we
are
having
one
scroll
bar
for
sidebar
end
for
Content,
which
makes
no
sense
for
me.
F
So
normally
the
sidebar
is
a
page
or
a
sub
page
I,
don't
know
how
you
call
it
technically
and
normally
you
scroll
the
sidebar
without
scrolling.
The
rest.
F
C
There
are
some
pages
that
have
that
sticky,
sidebar,
oh
right
right,
the
plug-in
managers
and
the
configure
Jenkins.
F
Yes,
I
tried
that
and
then
I
had
the
problem
with
the
footer
did
yeah
that
when
I
take
100
of
my
view,
then
the
footer
overlays,
my
page,
so
maybe
and
that's
how
how
we
come
again
to
the
footer.
Somehow
the
footer
is
not
working
as
expected,
so
it
counts
as
pixels
in
when
I
take
100
the
footer
somehow
overlays
my
screen,
and
that
looks
a
little
bit
diff
strange.
A
F
Now
currently,
the
footer
is
the
place
where
we
have
the
rest,
API
I'm,
not
sure
this
is
something
people
need,
at
least
in
my
plugins,
but
maybe
the
food
is
the
wrong
place
for
the
rest.
Api
I
don't
know.
D
F
Yeah,
so
even
here
on
this
page
yeah,
can
you
scroll
just
a
moment
yeah?
Why
is
the
menu
on
the
left
scrolling
away?
This
makes
no
sense
for
me
here.
So
when
you
are
scrolling
the
plugins,
the
menu
the
side
panel
is
scrolling
away.
This
makes
no
sense.
For
me,
this
is
a
bad
user
experience
I
think
so
the
menu
should
stay
at
the
place
and
just
the
content
should
scroll.
C
A
C
It
in
ages
ago,
oh,
it
did
okay,
if
you
go
to
like
a
job
configuration
okay,
so
you
should
see
the
sticky
sidebar,
though.
D
A
F
But
let's
say
when
I'm
or
I
presented
it
I
think
it
was
in
two
meetings
ago
when
I
am
trying
to
make
the
where
these
places,
where
generalists
were.
The
description
is
when
I
want
to
have
this
part
100
of
the
screen.
Then
it
is
from
General,
including
the
save
and
apply
buttons,
but
I
want
to
have
it
100
without
the
save
and
apply
buttons,
because
otherwise
the
20
pixels
at
the
end
are
away
so
the
footer
when
you
are
safe
and
applies
the
wrong
thing,
the
footer
at
the
bottom.
C
I
think
the
code
that
Jenkins
kind
of
redesign
prototype
had
something
similar
to
what
you
were
after
so
just
let's
see
how
that
feels.
I
think
for
the
rest
for
actual
Jenkins
to
see
if
it
kind
of
feels
right
but
I
I
do
agree.
I
think
the
sidebar
should
persist
when
you
can.
Okay.