Jitsi Community, 4 Jun 2018

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From YouTube: Community Call - June 4, 2018

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Jitsi's community call is held every other Monday at 10:30AM Central US time at https://meet.jit.si/TheCall

A

Hello: everyone welcome to this edition of the jitsi community, called we're going to start with a quick overview of things that we have done in in the past couple weeks. As usual, disco is being recorded and live stream on YouTube, so I'll start with a with a few things and then I'll, let others time in we one thing that multiple people have reached out to us for.

A

One thing that what four people have reached out to us for is theirs. There are consistent issues. People are saying, video is cut back, reported connectivity issues there really shouldn't be any yes, that is the case. We have seen this film to unprotect issue where, for some reason, we're sending chrome packets that it's not able to decrypt we're messing up something in there, not sure what changed you are just currently working on that George I, don't know if you have any new findings since Friday and if so feel free to update.

A

So that is indeed quite annoying, but we're hopeful that it will be going very soon because you want to add something to this.

B

Georgie I think your microphone is not worried working. How about not does it work, yeah, I think so.

C

B

Yeah I was saying that I have found a potential cause for this and I'm gonna open PR, for that today, I'm not sure if that's gonna fix everything, but that's definitely causing issues so yeah yep. Thank you very much.

A

Then one thing that Brian's working on Brian's- not here so I'm, going to get it out for him we're working on stopping the top stream, the top quality stream in your simulcast triad when no one is watching it. So when a call like this, if you're not the stage speaker, you will be your highest, quality stream will be interrupted, which should save an outbound bandwidth.

A

It should also save on CPU on the client computer, which is pretty important, and obviously it would also save on bandwidth, that's being used by the bridge and CPU that's being used by the dredge. We're also seeing that's a new updates. This last week, boris has run a bunch of performance tests.

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I think he might join us later today, and if that's the case, we will I'll ask you to complete, but basically we're seeing that we ran a bunch tests about performance and while the unicast performance isn't really damned, if that different from what we had before we're seeing that simulcast performance is not really that great, actually I'm, not I'm, not sure that I can say that it is significantly more demanding.

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Basically, on the same machine where we were able to fit approximately 700 mega bits in the past, enabling simulcast on the bridge takes it down to about 300 with a stretch, and then we basically fill up the CPU.

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So we do not know at this point whether we're going to try and and battle this, because we looked in flame graphs and performance analysis a little bit and there's there's there's a few more noticeable things that would probably take things down by two or three percent, but otherwise it's just there's a lot of stuff happening when you're doing simulcast.

A

So there's a lot of stuff with regard to bandwidth estimation, that's actually routing the packets, so we're not even sure to what extent a significant improvement of that is actually even theoretically possible, but we will be looking into it. Anyways we decided to first battle the highest quality elimination thing, because that would I obviously have the side effect of reducing the CBO in the bridges level or in other words addressing the same problem from a different perspective.

A

We have also noticed that the YouTube live streaming logging, which I don't know. If many of you have noticed, but now it is possible, you no longer need to to paste the key when you're live streaming with gibbering. Now we support this logging process that lets the user authenticate with Google and then retrieve theirs.

A

They're available live streams. What is really cool is that it also works in more complex situations, for example we're currently streaming on jitsi, which is a brand account, and you can properly you get routed through the right places so that you can actually select that so kudos to Lenny is on this go and who it must have worked there. Also, the link from the YouTube stream is actually being propagated, and now everyone is able to see where that link is.

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You should be able to see that in the corner for right now that this stream is available on that specific URL, so this is really cool. Brian also did want you to look there all right, I think these are the main key points that I had Luba. Would you like to do a summary mobile.

D

Yes, so the last week's we saw the release of a new version of Android and iOS app in the App Store's that comes with the world of bug, fixes with most visible ways we designed UI I knew that's just the beginning. When you told bar that's got an overflow menu, and here forget the community poll, notably we've released an equivalent SDK in our GT maven. So now that can be consumed by our clients.

D

We're also working on updating some of our important dependencies like react native and whoever to see so with getting the bathroom. There said she won't be able to join. Today we are continuing with the red Sun and Zola. Can you please go there.

E

Indicators are going to appear on mobile now the same.

E

Earlier on web, this is the audio only and recording and lighting status indicators on the top right corner and well I. Think Seoul is not here, so we can talk about to be the the bottom menu. That's new for us, too, and I think that's already correct.

D

And as part of this release, partially redesigned filmstrip, so it supposed talk of participant is supposed to be to stay in one place and you just discover participants only one, fortunately called uglies. We found issues on Android, so Android doesn't have the change in the moment, so this SDK released in the public maven repository, doesn't have that about. Zoli already has a proposal how to fix that. So the next release is probably gonna. Have this redesign fumes trigger the local participants, taste all waste in one plate and it comes calling them away. I think that's.

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Great. Thank you very much legal one. Other.

A

If you, if you go to GT Road or now, you should be able to see a new news, article from chat heart, which summarizes the progress that your team has made in the past.

A

Oh juts here actually hijack well, I'm, not going to be able to say all the bad things that he meant to say: Fred, there's a pretty cool article about the progress that GT made in the past three years, and there was a lot of concern in three years ago, when GT got acquired by Atlassian and that's a we basically came out multiple times back then and said: don't worry about it. It's going to be okay and and chad has a perfectly enjoyable summary of yes, it actually has been okay, anything more than that Jeff.

A

Would you like to add anything there? No.

F

Other than just the reinforce I totally thought it was not going to be okay and it definitely didn't turn out that way and the article is basically just a actually it's a lot of quantitative proof. Actually, oh that actually thinks a bit.

F

Okay, not not just opinion, there's some metrics in terms of community growth, great metrics, in terms of the this survey that we did well I guess about two months ago, now came back really positive too, and then you know the long list of development items which is pretty comprehensive, particularly compared to you know what the team was able to do beforehand. So I could say objectively a pretty impressed that Atlassian has been put good amount of effort and support to the jitsi team and from my discussions with them again as an independent analyst.

F

Even though that note they, they paid me a little bit for some projects. They definitely seem intent on continuing the community as it as an entity and supporting it as it needs to be keeping it growing.

A

Thank you very much. Chad, oh and by the way, Chad I want to add something. I like said, buy me a Porsche.

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F

If you set up mine.

C

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Was the point yeah thanks all right? Actually, he also set a point that was it that was a that was a side effect that we intended okay anyways. Thank you very much Chad and for those who are seeing shampoo the first time this is actually Chad was hard from WebRTC hacks. Alright,.

A

Is there anyone else from the team who would like to add things that that we haven't mentioned so far you'd say anything on the meat side that you'd like to see from people of.

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C

How about now yeah, so there was a PR that get merged it's for the for our critics. Basically, there was a bird. We are not passing the room name along with the analytics I'm, not sure that's gonna be in huge interest. Also. Another interesting thing is that currently I'm working on fixing some books with Firefox.

C

So from time to time you can end up in a situation that you don't have a video for the winner for this month, so I hope soon. Okay, a fix for this, so it's not directly usable hungry % of the time. I don't know if anybody have seen it actually, but it's possible to happen. I think I, don't have it and anyhow that is, that is going to be very interesting.

A

Alright, thanks very much something else that we're also looking into we've noticed that we have a new CDN in front of GG org. That is sometimes taking a suite trying to show some of the updates, so some of you might not actually be seeing a news article that I mentioned. They will see you later on today as the CDN updates, but this is something that we are looking at there all right. Would anyone else from the team? Wanna add something.

A

Okay, in this case, I'm going to move to the mic, anyone from the community any questions, comments.

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I'm going to let it hang for 10-15 seconds there.

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A

In that case, it looks like this is going to be a quick. Oh, maybe just one. One more thing. Work on large conferences is proceeding pretty nicely, so we hope that there's going to be some pretty cool dates and it's not in the next and in the co-op to the next all right. Thank you very much everyone and see you in two weeks, all right.