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Special County Board Meeting 11/18/2020 9:00AM
B
B
May
we
always
act
in
accordance
with
your
will,
and
I
ask
that
you
grant
each
of
us
the
knowledge,
the
wisdom,
the
strength
to
make
the
decisions
that
will
best
serve
our
constituents
and
all
residents
of
our
county
father.
I
also
ask
that
you
watch
over
and
protect
all
of
our
first
responders,
our
health
care
workers
and
the
people
serving
in
the
military
at
home
and
abroad.
D
A
H
H
My
understanding
of
the
special
meeting
statute,
55
ilcs,
five
slash
two
2
1002-
is
that
that,
in
order
to
have
a
special
meeting
has
to
be
either
called
by
one-third
of
the
members
one-third
of
the
members
of
the
board.
This
is
a
28-county
board,
28-member
board.
That
means
that
there
has
been
more
than
nine
people.
My
understanding,
there's
only
nine
people
called
in
the
meeting.
H
I
believe
that's
legal
in
certain
jurisdictions.
There
are
county
board
chairs
that
are
elected
by
the
people,
not
elected
by
the
fellow
board
members
we're
not
one
of
those
counties
we're
one
of
the
counties
where
our
county
board
chair
is
elected
by
the
county
board
members,
and
because
of
that,
the
members
themselves,
and
I
believe
it
legally.
It
has
to
be
at
least
10
members
in
order
to
call
the
meeting.
So
I
would
object
to
this,
as
I
guess,
the
legality
of
this
being
a
special
meeting.
H
H
Members
is
that
the
declaration
of
a
vacancy,
the
statute,
10
ilcs
5-25-11,
says
that
the
vacancy
itself
has
to
be
the
declaration
of
a
vacancy
has
to
be
made
by
the
board,
not
the
board
chair
and
when
I,
my
reviewing
of
the
meetings
the
prior
to
meetings
regarding
these
vacancies,
both
in
15
and
I
believe
it
was
25
or
26,
there
was
just
a
board.
There
was
never
a
vote
by
the.
There
was
just
a
chairman.
H
My
understanding
from
reading
the
statute
is
that
the
board
has
exclusive
ability
to
fill
vacancies,
but
there
has
to
be
two
conditions
met.
First,
the
vacancy
has
to
be
declared
within
three
days
of
the
vacancy.
It
has
been
three
days
so
one
of
the
vacancies
was
declared
was
vacant
back
in
september.
H
The
vacancy
the
declaration
of
the
vacancy
hadn't
happened
until
sometime
in
november,
so
I
don't
understand
how
now
we're
almost
60
days
later,
60
plus
days
later,
trying
to
fill
a
vacancy
that
has
been
vacant
for
more
than
60
days.
The
second
part,
once
again,
is
that
it
has
to
be
filled
within
60
days.
Both
those
conditions
have
to
be
met.
It's
an
argument.
H
You
have
to
abandon
your
your
your
previous
position,
which
which
you
know
which
we
don't
have
any
proof
that
that's
happened,
but
more
importantly,
you
have
to
establish
legal
residency
somewhere
else
and
and
and
legal
residency
is
established.
The
same
is
for
like
a
voter,
you
don't
necessarily
have
to
register
to
vote,
but
you
have
to
be
this
released
30
days
prior
and
in
this
situation
I
know
we
have
a
candidate.
That's
up
for
an
appointment
that
some
13
days
ago
was
a
legal
resident
of
someplace
else.
H
Now
we're
trying
to
appoint
this
person
as
a
board
member
this,
in
my
opinion
this
this
runs
a
foul
of
the
law.
This
stinks,
you
can
have
any
person
at
any
time
packing
up
their
bags
and
moving
to
a
district
the
next
day,
just
to
get
appointed
to
a
position
you
have
to
be
just
like
for
a
voter.
You
have
to
be
in
that
you
have
to
be
have
resided
in
a
state
and
an
elected
district
30
days
preceding
any
election.
H
H
So
for
all
these
reasons,
I'm
I'm
concerned
that
we
are
proceeding
and
appointing
these
and
pointing
people
when
there
has
not
been
a
legal
declaration
of
vacancy
and
people
that
have,
and
and
in
the
case
of
the
vacancy
of
15
someone
who
is
not
a
legal
resident
of
26,
where
this
legal
appointment
is
going
to
happen.
So
I
can't
imagine,
as
a
lawyer,
I
can't
imagine
how
this
would
be
resolved
without
court
intervention.
H
Knowing
this,
this
board
would
take
a
step
to
appoint
someone
knowing
that
their
actions
will
be
void,
especially
when
we
have
a
vacancy
and
and
15
that's
going
to
be
for
like
10
days,
it
seems
like
a
race
of
resources,
so
I
I
definitely
urge
our
county
board
and
each
of
the
individual
members
to
please
consider
these,
like,
I
said,
there's
a
special
meeting
statute,
there's
declaration
of
vacancy
statute,
there's
a
legal
residency
statute,
and
that
and-
and
I
believe
all
these
should
be
reviewed
before
we
take
this
vote.
Thank
you.
I
I
The
east
side,
junior
football
league,
one
of
their
particular
teams,
will
be
representing
county
at
the
national
playoffs
in
gatlinburg
tennessee
next
week
from
wednesday
until
sunday.
So
I'm
soliciting
your
support,
any
kind
of
donations
would
be
appreciated.
Some
of
you
have
made
financial
contributions
already.
I
This
particular
organization
is
a
501c3,
so
it
meets
a
criteria
for
a
a
donation
which
would
be
considered
for
a
write-off
tax
deduction,
so
they're
representing,
can
key
county
and
and
that's
at
a
national
playoffs,
as
I
indicated
in
gatlinburg
tennessee
next
week,
and
checks
can
be
made
out
to
eastside
junior
football
league.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
I
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A
Okay,
so
it's
been
advised
to
me
that
we
should,
because
the
succession
portion
of
the
county
code
was
not
clear
if
something
were
to
happen
to
me
via
covid
these
times
of
days,
and
I
would
not
be
able
to
be
in
the
office
to
fulfill
the
duties
that
we
elect
a
county
board
vice
chairman
to
fill
the
unexpired
term
of
vice
chairman.
Okay,
so
do
I
have
any
nominations
for
vice
chair,
mr
featherlings,
mr
lear.
I
would
second
that
chad
miller
mr
miller
seconds
do
I
have
any
other
nominations.
A
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D
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J
J
In
that
meeting
twice,
mr
cyril
said
I
declare
the
only
way
that
he
can
declare
is,
if
he's
elected
by
the
voters,
he's
not
he's
elected
by
the
county
board.
So
therefore,
the
county
board
would
have
had
to
declare
it
the
county
board.
Nowhere
on
record
has
declared
it
a
vacancy.
How
does
the
county
board
speak
through
the
vote?
How
is
it
through
resolution
or
the
ordinance?
J
In
neither
case,
no
vote
was
taken
by
this
county
board,
because
I've
been
at
every
meeting
of
this
county
board
and
not
one
meeting,
not
one
agenda
was
a
item
was
held
where
we
basically
declared
anything.
So
with
that
being
said,
we
are
in
violation
of
the
actual
code
that
empowers
us
to
basically
act.
J
So
until
we
as
a
board
declare
the
vacancy.
There
is
no
vacancy
that
exists
and
in
fact
we
should
in
one
case
we
should
have
done
it
by
september
20th.
We
had
three
days
and
we're
going
to
call
it
a
special
meeting.
It
should
be
within
that
three
days
so
that
we
could
have
declared
and
that
we
could
have
moved
forward.
J
We
have
not
done
so
in
this
case,
so
the
objection
that
I
have
based
upon
the
statutory
requirements
has
the
it
will
ask
the
question:
has
the
county
board
lost
his
statutory
authority
to
act
by
his
own
negligence
to
act
within
the
statutory
guidelines
that
empowers
them
to
act?
This
board
failed
to
properly
and
legally
act
within
the
three
days
of
the
occurrence
of
the
vacancy,
which
is
without
argument.
J
There
has
not
been
any
collective
vote
taken
by
this
county
board.
No
any
resolution
by
this
board
before
us
today
that
will
allow
us
to
confirm
a
legal
vote
from
the
26
or
from
15..
This
presents
a
question
of
law
for
the
courts
to
decide.
Do
we
have
the
statutory
power
to
do
such?
Mr
chairman?
I
call
the
question
you
could
you
you
can't
call
the
question
when
it's
up
on
debate
and
it's
going
to
be
in
a
motion
and
a
second
and
then
also.
I
still
had
the
floor.
J
J
So
at
this
point
I
think
what
we're
doing
is
illegal
and
we
are
governed
by
our
oath
to
follow
the
statues
of
the
state
of
illinois
and
the
laws
and
the
constitution
of
the
of
the
state
of
illinois
and
the
united
states.
If
we
knowingly
violate
that,
then
there
are
consequences
that
basically
can
follow,
because
the
board
is
acting
improperly
because
it
failed
to
follow
the
law.
We
cannot
keep
doing
what
we're
doing.
That's.
Why
we're
in
court
with
jake
lee,
because
there's
a
legal
way
of
doing
things
in
a
county
board's
way.
J
This
is
why
we
brought
it
to
your
attention
unless
this
county
board
can
say
that
they
actually
declared
a
vacancy
and
show
me
where
the
vote
was
taken,
these
two
we
can
go
no
further
on
as
as
far
we
can
go
no
further.
As
far
as
the
motion
or
anything
regarding
these
two,
we
can
continue
our
other
business,
but
we
cannot
because
we
did
not
follow
the
law.
In
this
instance,.
O
O
It
says
declare
it
doesn't
say
that
by
a
majority
of
there's
no
language
that
indicates
there
necessarily
has
to
be
a
vote,
and
so
at
this
point,
there's
no
clear
language
in
the
statute
that
indicates
a
vote
must
be
taken.
It's
a
declare.
That
means
the
board
announces
or
you
know,
says,
there's
a
there's,
a
vacancy.
That's
what
the
definition
of
declare
is.
A
G
Concerned
that
we
called
the
question
after
one
speaker
and
in
the
middle
of
that
speaker
speaking,
I
think
that
it
seems
that
there's
no
transparency
going
on
here.
There
wasn't
an
open
dialogue.
No
one
else
had
a
chance
to
speak.
I
do
agree
with
mr
snipes
that
there's
a
lot
of
questions
around
this
and
possibly
this
should
be
tabled
and
not
voted
on
until
we
have
a
little
bit
more
clarification.
A
J
C
Well,
I,
what
I
want
to
say
is
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
about
this
situation
here,
I'm
not
a
lawyer
and
I'm
not
sure
if
we
have
any
other
county
board
member.
There
is
a
lawyer.
However,
I
do
rely.
My
vote
will
be
based
on
the
what
we
get
as
an
information
from
legal
representatives
of
this
county,
which
in
that
case
would
be
mr
rowe
in
his
office.
So
I
heard
a
little
bit
ago
that
there's
no
specific
thing
on
the
language
saying
that
we'll
have
to
have
a
vote.
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A
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F
A
F
J
If,
in
fact,
you
can
call
the
question
before
every
county
board
member
has
had
the
opportunity
to
address,
and
you
allow
one
you
have
just
you.
You
have
basically
disregarded
not
only
the
rules
of
the
county
but
of
the
state
and
robber
rules
of
order
as
well.
The
you
can
call
the
question
after
it
has
been
at
least
arguably
debated
so
and
you
can't
do
it.
If
that's
the
case,
we
can
just
simply
have
a
meeting,
no
county
board
member
one
person
can
speak,
and
then
somebody
calls
the
question
and
then
no
other
county
board.
J
Member
can
speak
from
any
of
the
elected
districts,
and
I
will
tell
you
that
not
only
is
that
wrong,
but
we
need
to
challenge
that
immediately.
What
statue
that
do
you
have
before
this
county
board
or
any
statue
that
allows
you
to
to
say
to
the
other
27
board
members.
They
can't
say
anything
because
someone
calls
the
question
that
you
don't
have
it.
J
You
first
have
to
have
a
healthy
debate,
then,
after
that
you
can
call
it
after
it
has
been
debated,
and
so
therefore,
if
it's
tiresome
at
that
point
yes,
but
you
cannot
disenfranchise
every
elected
district
who
is
represented
by
the
people,
there's
no
way.
That
could
be
fundamentally
fair.
And
if,
if
that's
the
message
we
sit
in
the
community,
then
they
have
a
right
to
come
up
here
and
and
basically
not
only
fuss
us
out,
but
to
basically
call
that
what
you
just
did
illegal.
J
A
J
J
A
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P
A
J
Order
that
has
not
been
addressed
so
needs
a
point
of
order
from
nancy.
From
the
statement
point
of
order,
the
point
of
order
is
the
I
believe
the
attorney
stated
that
we
would
have
to
declare
it.
She
said
he
didn't
have
to
take
a
vote,
but
we
have
to
declare
it.
The
issue
is:
did
the
county
board
declared,
or
the
chairman
declared
it
from
the
facts
which
is
the
last
meeting
and
they
can
look
at
it
now?
It
says
the
chair
declared
it
not
the
county
board.
O
O
The
declaration,
if
it
was,
I
don't,
have
the
minutes
in
front
of
me,
but
if
we're
going
to
say
that
it
is
the
chair
who
declared
it,
the
chairman
declared
it
the
chairman
for
purposes
of
making
different
things.
Statements
is
the
voice
of
the
county
board.
There
was
discussion,
I
mean
I
do
remember
last
county
board.
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion.
A
lot
of
things
were
talked
about,
and
at
the
end,
this
is
what
the
chairman
stated.
O
A
J
A
J
K
O
The
chairman
wasn't
of
his
own
fruition,
declaring
the
vacancy
there
was
discussion
about
whether
or
not
the
vacancy
had
occurred
and
how
they
were
going
to
put
forth
the
notifications
of
the
different
political
parties
at
the
last
board
meeting.
That
was
the
discussion
and
the
chairman
was
stating
that
there
was
a
vacancy.
O
The
statute
doesn't
require
that
the
vote,
and
if
you
read
the
statute,
you
can
see
the
comparison
because
it
says
the
county
board
shall
declare
that
such
vacancy
exist.
If
you
go
further
in
the
statute,
it
says
that
the
county
board
chairman,
it
says,
she'll
appoint
with
the
advice,
so
the
appointment
happens
with
the
advice
and
consent.
A
G
A
A
M
G
G
A
K
E
E
B
J
We
have
to
follow
the
state
of
illinois,
the
supreme
court
said
it
all
the
appellate
court
and
in
fact,
when
the
appellate
court,
one
appellate
court
went
against
the
grain,
the
supreme
court
sharply
kind
of
gave
a
rebuke
to
the
appellate
court
because
they
said
this
is
in
place
for
the
last
hundred
years,
which
are
150
years.
And
so
this
is
the
process
that
they
follow
and
that
it
would
we
would
resort
back
to
the
residency
up
under
the
election
code.
J
Now,
even
in
the
the
county
code
that
we
just
discussed,
it
still
states
when
you
take
the
even
when
you
take
the
oath,
because
I
believe
he
had
to
take
verified
that
he
lived
and
said
that
he
was
there
for
30
days
preceding
the
election.
Now
someone
said
that
he
brought
the
property
30
days
before,
but
yet
he
served
on
the
county
board
to
november
6..
So
he
didn't
abandon
this,
the
district
15
until
the
6th,
because
he
served
here
as
a
board.
J
But
the
issue
is:
when
was
the
vacancy
that
occurred
in
district
15,
that
was
on
november
6,
so
he
could
not
have
registered
30
days
and
been
there
30
days,
because
november
6
is
less
than
13
days
of
the
election
code.
Now
it's
the
qualification
of
voters.
Oh
no
person
shall
vote
at
the
election
who
does
not
possess
the
qualification
mentioned
in
the
affidavit
in
this
section.
J
That's
all
that
you
take
so
and
then,
even
in
this
in
this
in
the
statute
that
we're
still
discussing
it
says
that
the
person
had
to
resign
in
the
county
code
must
be
a
resident
of
the
county
board
or
county
commission
district
that
he's
about
to
represent,
and
that
has
to
be
30
days.
So
if
he
left
on
the
sixth,
the
first
day
would
be
the
seventh.
E
O
O
The
research
we
have
done
has
been
more
over
procedure,
and
now
we've
been
researching
it
even
more
in
depth
as
we
come
up
with
sort
of
a
procedure
and
maybe
a
checklist,
that's
mr
hunter
suggested
that
we
do
going
forward,
so
we
don't
have
to
so
there's
more
specifics,
so
we
don't
have
to
kind
of
you
know.
Hopefully
quit
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
what
was
said.
Who
was
you
know
like
some
uncertainty,
so
we're
trying
to
close
those
up?
That's
what
we're
doing.
O
Yeah
I
mean
if
what
you
said
if
mr
wheeler
has
been
a
resident
in
the
county
for
a
year,
my
understanding
and
mr
henderson
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
if
somebody
appears
the
day
of
voting
with
proof
of
residency
in
a
district
at
a
voting
precinct,
they
can
register
that
day
to
vote
at
that
place.
That's.
L
J
J
Furthermore,
under
the
same
statue,
it
reads
in
part
in
case
of
a
vacancy
and
a
seat
on
a
county
board
or
board
of
county
commissioners,
which
has
been
divided
into
districts
under
section
2-3003
or
2-4
0.5
of
the
county's
code.
The
appointee
must
also
be
a
resident
of
the
county
board
or
county
commission
district.
Now
the
term
residency
again
is
a
legal
question.
That's
been
resolved
in
the
course
to
mean
that
you
have
to
have
an
abode.
He
last
voted
in
the
election
under
under
what
is
it
district
15.?
D
K
D
M
K
K
I
E
J
A
E
E
J
K
D
D
D
F
A
A
A
A
Another
company
has
given
us
an
idea
of
what
they
would
like
to
do
in
order
and
we've
been
advised
by
legal
in
order
to
make
this
appropriate,
but
it's
only
really
going
to
cost
the
county.
Ten
thousand
dollars
our
deductible
for
our
insurance
policy,
but
in
order
for
it
to
make
it
real
legal
or
to
to
be
very
transparent,
we're
going
to
bid
out
the
elevator
repair
for
our
insurance
company
to
pay
for
it's
only
going
to
cost
our
insurance
company
10
grand
because
other
this
has
all
been
deemed
weather-related
issue.
A
I
A
I
I
we've
been
advised
to
to
let
it,
and
so
it's
probably
going
to
come
back
the
same
as
what
it
was
previous,
because
we
already
had
two
people
look
at
it.
After
the
insurance
company
got
involved
and
they
outsourced
to
the
elevator
companies.
They
came
and
looked
at
it,
but
now
we're
gonna,
let
it
or
seek
bids
to
let
it
and
let
the
insurance
company
handle
it
from
there.
So
does
that
answer
your
question,
sir.
Thank
you.
I
L
A
E
D
M
M
E
A
A
J
Okay,
there
are
three
quick
issues
that
I
want
to
deal
with,
and
the
first
one
is
when
I
have
a
county
board
that
says,
I
feel,
threatened
and
fear
for
my
life.
Now
I've
been
in
this
community
what
about
50
years
or
better
and
and
I've
been
on
this
board.
I
came
on
the
board
in
1990
and
I
currently
serve
been
on.
I've
been
currently
served
now
to
date
and
when
you
say
I
feel
threatened
fear
for
my
life,
either
you're
making
a
slanderous
or
defamation
of
character.
J
A
J
J
You
see
this
is
oh,
we
rely
upon
the
state's
attorney's
office
to
give
us
information.
Ms
nancy
specifically
stated
that
I
have
not
researched
this
and
the
board
went
on
without
the
research
and
said
that
we're
going
to
just
do
it.
So
for
that
reason,
I'm
going
to
direct
jim
roh
I'll,
send
a
letter
to
him
and
then
have
something
filed
into
the
courts
to
determine
whether
or
not
residency
actually
applies.
J
J
This
is
right
because
the
courts
now
have
to
get
involved
because
we
could
have
made
a
grave
area.
We
cannot
put
people
in
place
that
are
not
legal
voters
of
that
place
until
they
meet
the
qualifications,
and
since
the
assistant
states
attorneys
stated
that
they
did
not
research
it.
We
did
not
wait
for
the
research
and
then
the
last
thing
I
want
to
say
is
to
the
board.
A
Thank
you
and
I
would
like
to
reaffirm
what
mr
rose
said
last
full
board
meeting,
that
if
you
have
a
legal
question
and
you
have
legal
documentation,
please
bring
it
to
the
legal
team
before
this
meeting
so
that
they
are
prepared
to
answer
those
questions,
because
anything
other
than
that
would
seem
in
in,
in
light
of
anything
other
than
stalling
or
trying
to
throw
a
wrench
into
what
our
agenda
is.
Now
you
could
have
brought
those
questions
earlier.
A
Okay,
so
you
could
have
brought
those
questions
earlier.
So
I
I
I
it's
not
fair
for
the
legal
team
to
have
to
answer
your
questions
on
this
floor,
where
you
could
have
proposed
those
questions
to
them
yesterday
and
they
could
have
been
ready
for
a
response.
That's
just
not
fair
on
their
part.
So,
mr.
G
G
A
G
L
I
feel
that
at
times
that
mr
snipes
has
bullied
this
board
by
some
of
his
comments,
I
would
like
to
say
that,
and
the
other
is
that
there
are
other
board
members
that
are
on
this
board
that
were
appointed
here
that
have
been
appointed
the
same
way
we
just
appointed
mr
wheeler
and
mr
heeds,
so
that
has
to
be
taken
into
consideration.
Also,
when
mr
snipes
sends
that
information
over
to
mr
rowe
to
be
investigated,
it
will
also
affect
other
board
members
that
have
been
appointed
prior
to
this
one.
G
I
think
that
all
county
board
members
deserve
respect,
and
sometimes
I
feel
like
maybe
when
someone's
mic
gets
turned
off
or
not
turned
on
that
they
don't
get
the
respect
that
they
deserve
also.
So
I
I
would
just
reach
out
to
my
fellow
board
members
and
we
need
to
respect
each
member
of
the
county
board.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
I
I
I,
in
light
of
what
has
transpired
consistently
at
these
county
board
meetings
regarding
procedures,
roberts
rules,
the
border
and
it
may
be
appropriate
at
some
point
for
an
end
service
to
be
provided
by
the
state's
attorney's
office
regarding
the
intricacies
of
robert's
rules
of
order,
because
you
know
I
understand
it
robert's
rules
of
order.
However,
there
seems
to
be
some
confusion
at
times
regarding,
what's
appropriate,
what's
inappropriate
and
robert
is
probably
turning
over
in
his
grave
regarding
his
rules.
I
F
O
Thank
you
and
to
further
support
what
mr
rowe
just
said.
We've
actually
been
in
discussion
with
ms
speckman,
the
county
administrator,
to
try
to
start
putting
together
like
an
orientation
packet
or
to
do
an
orientation
with
incoming
board
members,
like
mr
rosa
to
go
over
foia
to
go
over
oma
and
now,
yes,
we
will
add
robert's
rules
or
at
least
a
primer.
I
don't
even
fully
understand
robert's
rules,
it's
a
complex
thing,
but
we
can
maybe
at
least
go
over
some
of
the
basics
of
the
procedure.
Thank
you.