►
From YouTube: Kankakee County Board Meeting 6/12/2018
Description
Kankakee County Board Meeting 6/12/2018 9:00 AM
A
Like
to
call
them
the
June,
12th,
tanki
County,
full
board
meeting
to
order
did
want
to
mention.
We
can't
have
anybody
standing
in
the
back
because
of
fire
code.
So
if
we
could
clear
the
aisle
you
can
come
in
and
talk
if
you
have
submitted
a
complaint,
we
do
have
audio
in
the
hallway
apologize
for
that.
B
Props,
thank
you
for
the
rain
that
nourishes
those
crops.
We
ask
that
you
protect
the
first
responders
who
serve
the
people,
be
with
all
the
employees
of
this
county
as
they
work
for
the
people
of
this
County.
To
give
wisdom
insight
to
the
members
of
this
county
board.
Decisions
be
based
on
what
is
best
for
all
the
people.
E
F
B
E
E
B
A
A
G
It's
all
now,
good
morning
my
name
is
Jim
Wasser
I
live
off
of
Highland
Road
and
a
couple
of
things
I
say:
you're
still
going
to
be
discussing
the
the
solar
issue,
certainly
and
I
believe
in
solar
power,
but
not
there.
That's
just
my
point
number
two.
It's
actually
a
compliment
today.
I
am
a
mentor
in
the
bet
Court
in
Kankakee
County,
which,
if
many
of
you
don't
know,
I
will
explain
it
to
him.
G
Taking
a
couple
minutes
about
four
years
ago,
judge
ones,
woman,
judge,
Tung
gate
and
Jamie
Boyd
got
together
with
myself,
John
Fulton
and
Roger
beam
to
look
at
starting
a
vet
Court,
and
what
that
court
does
is
it
takes
in
consideration
the
veterans
issues
they
take
in
consideration,
alcoholism,
drugs,
no
major
dealing
and
abuse
domestic
disturbances
and
what
they
do?
It's
tough
love
and
they
have
to
go
to
classes.
I
mean
a
lot
of
classes.
We
just
had
a
graduation.
G
Actually,
it
was
a
gentleman
that
I
was
fortunate
to
mentor.
He
went
through
very
fast
when
they're
AAA.
They
got
to
go
at
least
to
two
meetings
a
week
depending
on
their
alcohol
level
of
dependency,
and
he
graduated
my
god.
He
was
doing
10
a
week
and
I
personally
want
to
thank
mr.
Lewis
because
he
was
there
as
a
County,
Board
member
and
I
always
tried
to
give
them
credit,
because
mr.
Hess
has
been
there
and
mr.
McConnell
has
always
been
there.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that,
but
it's
a
very
tough
love.
G
This
is
not
a
slap
on
the
hand,
there's
people
that
have
when
had
relapses
and
end
up
going
to
jail.
It
can
take
up
to
a
year
or
two
years
and
if
they
meet
all
the
criteria,
because
we
work
with
Hinds
and
a
veterans,
assistance
Commission
and
everybody
they
actually
graduate
and
their
record
is
expunged.
G
So
they
can
go
on
and
get
put
something
back
in
their
life
and
it's
finally
given
the
best
of
in
a
little
credit
and
help
for
their
issues.
That
most
people
would
never
understand.
Of
course,
the
state's
attorney.
We
see
him
a
lot
and
then
a
public
defender,
and
it's
been
very,
very
good.
It's
not
adversarial,
but
excuse
me
probation
and
Kankakee
County,
Sheriff's
Department,
it's
a
team
and
Hinds
comes
down
and
they
really
give
the
veteran
the
benefit
of
the
doubt.
But
we
also
have
days
cuz
they're.
G
G
Excuse
me
the
sanction.
It
will
be
a
County
deputy
and
you
will
soon
have
an
orange
suit
for
at
least
three
to
four
days
and
then
they
normally
get
out
on
a
Sunday.
They
try
to
get
back
to
their
lives.
Some
do
and
some
don't
it's
very
depressing.
Sometimes
because
I've
had
some
that
you
thought
were
top
of
the
class
and
then
they
just
couldn't
whip
it.
But
if
you
ever
have
a
chance
or
an
opportunity,
it's
every
Thursday
in
court
room
110
at
11:30
at
the
Kankakee
County
Courthouse.
G
You
can
get
just
a
little
idea.
What
they
do-
and
this
is
tough
love
I-
will
guarantee
you
you're
not
going
to
go
there
every
day
and
then
look
like
it's
a
high
school
graduation
somebody's
getting
a
diploma.
That
does
not
happen,
but
I
would
really
implore
you
if
you
can
to
just
go
there
and
see
what
the
cranky
County
one
of
the
many
many
good
things
they
have
done
and
judge
ones.
Woman
was
the
original
judge.
G
Right
now
we
had
Judge
Michael
Kramer
and
he
has
done
an
excellent
excellent
job
and
what
they
do
prior
to
each
meeting.
They
have
about
an
hour
meeting
prior
and
each
veteran
that's
come
in
that
day.
They
go
over
his
case
and
Avenue
of
treatment
and
like
I,
say
it's
very
wonderful,
but
I
personally
wanted
to
thank
mr.
Lewis
for
coming
and
I
also
knew
that
I
heard
a
conversation
afterwards
that
a
longtime
friend
of
mine
who's
also
a
mentor
mr.
Mike
Pitts.
He
was
one
of
mr.
G
B
H
Good
morning,
as
I
said,
my
name
is
Louise,
be
bigoted
and
I
live
on
Highland
Road
close
to
the
proposed
special
use
project
18-0
one
I
am
opposed
to
the
granting
of
this
special
use,
as
our
many
other
Highland
Road
residents
who
are
here
supporting
that
position
and
in
the
interest
of
time,
I'm
speaking
for
them
and
adopting
what
they
said
at
the
May
8th
meeting
and
asking
that
it
may
be
made
a
part
of
this
record.
This
matter
is
coming
before
the
board
on
a
motion
to
reconsider.
H
According
to
section
2
72
of
the
county
board
rules,
a
motion
to
reconsider
can
be
made
only
at
the
meeting
in
which
the
matter
to
be
reconsidered
was
adopted.
That
would
be
the
May
8th
meeting,
and
this
is
not
that
meeting
the
note
is
published
on
217
18
did
not
contain
the
names
and
addresses
of
the
actual
owner
and
applicant
as
they
are
business
entities.
That's
in
violation
of
55
ILCs
5/5.
The
applicant
in
this
case
proposes
to
put
an
astounding
6500
panels
on
13
acres
or
about
500
panels
per
acre.
H
Toxic
chemicals
from
these
panels
will
leech
into
our
well
water
supply.
There
were
no
findings
of
fact
made
by
the
appeals
board
is
required
by
Kankakee
County
Code
section
one
to
seven.
The
yes
votes
are
unhappy
with
the
result
and
want
to
change
it.
No
one
believes
that
mr.
Wheeler,
after
six
years
on
the
board,
forgot
to
inform
the
board
of
their
duties,
the
residents
of
Highland
Road
moved
there
for
peace,
tranquility
and
beautiful
scenery.
We
don't
want
to
look
at
industrial
wastes,
which
is
what
the
panels
will
become
in
time.
H
There
are
many
many
vacant
industrial
sites
in
Kankakee
County
which
can
be
used
for
this
purpose.
As
we
all
know,
the
residents
of
Highland
Road
are
tired
of
being
the
target
of
every
out-of-towner
with
a
get-rich-quick
scheme.
There
is
no
benefit
to
the
Highland
Road
residents
in
this
scheme
only
to
the
applicant
in
the
landowner.
Please
support
your
constituents
and
vote
no
on
18-0
one
Thank
You.
J
I
I'm
only
here
to
speak
about
the
violation
of
section
2
72
of
the
municipal
code,
which
is
posted
I,
am
shocked
by
the
fact
that
the
board
isn't
aware
of
that
after
six
years
as
president
of
the
board,
mr.
wheeler,
you
should
have
known
that
in
order
to
have
a
revote
on
anything
that
reconsideration
had
to
be
made
within
that
meeting,
I'm
here
to
protest
against
the
violation
of
that
code.
So
if
you
do
revote
today,
it's
an
illegal
revote.
Thank
you
very
much.
K
Hello.
Thank
you.
For
your
time.
My
father
owns
the
property
in
question
on
I'm
here
on
his
behalf.
We've
owned
the
property
for
15
years.
So
this
is
not
a
get-rich-quick
scheme.
It's
been
farmland
since
the
day
it
was
bought.
There
was
an
opportunity
to
help
the
greater
good
of
Kankakee
and
provide
solar
energy,
which
is
not
it's.
It's
not
gonna
harm
the
land.
It's
and
it's
it's.
A
small
portion
of
the
actual
parcel
in
question.
K
We've
taken
great
care
in
vetting
out
the
people
that
we've
been
working
with,
and
it's
it's
not
something
that
it's
it's
a
small
portion
of
a
large
farm.
So
it's
not
the
entire
parcel
and
we're
developers
by
trade,
so
we
would
be
petitioning
for
other
uses.
Had
it
not
been
a
solar
opportunity,
it's
not
a
wind
farm,
it's
not
a
gravel
pit,
it's
a
beautiful
piece
of
contiguous
land
and
we
feel
that
this
small
section
of
that
farmland
is
gonna,
be
taken.
K
So
you
know
I'm
here
on
my
father's
behalf:
he's
got
some
health
issues
right
now
and
was
unable
to
make
it
and
you
know
that's
our
position
as
far
as
the
best
use
of
the
property.
There's,
no
pesticides,
there's
no
runoff,
it's
environmentally
friendly
aesthetically
we've
got
a
landscape
plan
in
place,
we're
trying
to
respect
our
neighbors.
We
want
to
be
good
neighbors.
Our
intent
is
not
to
abuse
the
property
it's
to
make
the
best
use
of
the
property,
and
that
was
really
the
intent
of
Dean
the
whole
opportunity.
K
You
know
it's
it's
less
than
10%
of
the
entire
piece
of
property,
so
it's
not
we're
not
taking
570
acres
and
washing
it
away.
It's
a
small
portion
of
a
570
acre
farm
and
it's
not
a
wind
farm.
You
know
we're
not
asking
for
you
know
for
it
to
be
a
gravel
pit
or
anything
like
that.
It's
a
small
portion
of
a
large
farm
and,
like
I,
said
my
father-
has
owned
the
property
for
15
years.
This
is
not
a
get-rich-quick
scheme.
K
We've
been
leasing
it
back
to
the
same
farm
that
he
bought
it
from
for
15
years,
and
this
opportunity
presented
itself.
We
think
it's
a
clean
energy
opportunity
and
it's
a
very
nice
use
of
the
land
with
what
we
feel
is
zero
negative
impact
to
the
to
the
community.
It's
only
a
positive,
that's
that's
how
we
feel
about
it.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
L
Good
morning,
mr.
chairman
board,
members
guests,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
before
the
board.
My
name
is
Keith
Nugent
I
live
in
Manteno
and
I'm.
One
of
the
land
owners
of
the
property
proposed
to
be
developed
into
Staley
solar,
brought
to
you
today
as
EBA
case
number,
18
16
I
support
this
development
as
a
result
of
owning
property
immediately
adjacent
to
the
Davis
Creek
substation
I
have
been
contacted
by
no
fewer
than
seven
companies
proposing
to
develop
energy
on
our
property.
L
We
have
been
approached
by
companies
wishing
to
develop
in
everything
from
solar
to
wind
to
gas.
In
fact,
I
was
initially
approached
by
exelon
in
2016
to
develop
a
natural
gas
energy
generation
station
here,
and
we
hesitated
to
accept
this
use
for
the
property.
I
say
these
things
to
assure
the
board
and
our
neighbors
that
our
family
has
at
all
points
and
negotiations
considered
the
short
and
long
term
implications
to
the
area
as
a
multi-generational
farming
family
with
several
young
adults
and
children
continuing
to
call
this
home.
L
It
is
extremely
likely
that
our
family
will
continue
to
farm
in
this
area
for
the
entirety
of
this
lease
period
and
resume
farming
it
upon
the
end
of
the
lease
term.
We
spent
hours
days
weeks
and
months
me
personally,
working
with
Linley's
to
negotiate
the
best
deal
with
respect
to
preserving
the
integrity
of
the
existing
field,
tiles,
assuring
minimal
erosion
and
making
sure
the
decommissioning
plan
is
in
place
and
funded
before
construction
starts.
We
are
not
only
landowners.
We
are
neighbors
several
of
my
family
members
and
their
families
live
within
a
mile
of
this
property.
L
M
Study
of
visual
impacts
of
utility-scale,
solar
energy
facilities
by
environmental
science,
division
at
Argonne,
National,
Laboratory,
United,
States,
Department
of
the
Interior
National
Park,
Service
and
Bureau
of
Land
Management.
This
study
was
supported
by
the
US
Department
of
Energy
must
consider
the
visual
impacts
on
the
development
that
takes
place
outside
the
boundaries
of
agency,
managed
lands,
visual
impacts
of
utility
scale,
solar
energy
facility
facilities.
Seven
sites
were
studied,
focus
on
two
parabolic
troughs
and
two
thin
filled
PV
sites.
I
will
only
discuss
the
PV
sites.
M
The
PV
sites
laid
out
east
to
west
facing
south
module
surface
or
black
2
were
studied
silver
state,
solar
project
and
copper
mountain.
They
were
observed
and
photographed
from
one
tenth
of
a
mile
to
22
miles.
Three
thousand
photographs
were
taken
during
this
project.
Peavey's
facilities
sites
were
described
as
geometric
shapes,
shimmering
and
glittering
strongly
because
of
the
reflection
and
refraction
of
sunlight.
The
inverters
of
the
Copper
Mountain
facilities
were
distinguishable
from
eight
miles
away.
The
Silver
State
North
facility
was
difficult
to
view
a
few
miles
away
because
of
visual
impact
mitigation
strategy.
M
In
other
words,
it
was
concealed
by
visually
blending.
The
colors
with
the
surrounding
area
quote
the
major
conclusion
of
the
study
is
that
the
visual
experience
of
parabolic
trough
and
thin
film
facilities
is
very
dynamic,
primarily
because
of
the
large
number
of
reflective
services.
These
facilities,
employee,
unquote,
quote
non
glare.
Visual
effects
from
thin
fin
film
PV
facilities
is
included,
pronounced
changed
in
texture,
color
and
scintillating
glinting
and
geometric
patterns
of
starlight
points
and
reflected
light
associated
with
the
collector
arrays.
M
These
visual
phenomena
can
have
major
effects
on
the
apparent
contrast
of
the
facilities
with
its
surroundings
and
ciliary
facilities
and
plumes
can
also
contribute
substantially
to
perceive
contrast
levels.
End
quote
quote
if
the
facility's
observed
are
represented.
Examples
of
visual
characteristics
of
the
two
types
of
cellar
facilities.
M
The
results
of
this
study
suggest
that,
although
both
parabolic
trough
and
thin
film
PV
facilities
may
be
strong
source
of
visual
contrast,
unquote
quote
in
ciliary
facilities,
particularly
of
particularly
a
parabolic
trough
and
power
tower
facilities
may
also
be
important
source
of
visual
contrast
from
utility-scale
solar
facilities
in
both
daytime
and
nighttime
settings
cleared
soil
in
and
around
the
facilities
may
also
contribute
to
visual
contrast.
End
quote:
vote
no.
For
Highland,
solar,
PV
garden.
A
N
The
impact
of
PV
installations
on
downwind
particulate
matter,
published
in
June
of
2017
particulate
matter,
is
basically
the
particles
of
dust,
allergens,
etc
that
are
kicked
up
by
the
wind
and
rain
and
everything
else.
It's
basically
what
causes
your
allergies
and
everything
else,
the
those
pollutants,
the
the
standards
that
are
were
tested
were
by
EPA
standards
for
particulate
size
of
two
and
a
half
and
10
micrometers
Forte's.
Why
four
sites
were
observed
over
a
period
of
three
years?
N
All
four
sites
had
wind
shielding
in
place.
Three
of
the
four
sites
showed
overlap
and
we're
not
statistically
significant.
The
fourth
site
showed
an
increase
of
5.7
percent
of
the
smaller
particulate
and
2.6
percent
of
the
larger
particulate
over
the
24-hour
ambient
standards
for
safety
by
the
EPA.
All
four
sites
showed
increase
only,
but
one
of
them
showed
significant
increase
for
the
air
health.
The
second
study
is
the
hydrologic
response
of
solar
farms
that
was
published,
October
24th
in
2011
in
the
Journal
of
hydrologic
engineering.
N
That
study
basically
looked
at
that
the
solar
panels
themselves
do
not
increase
the
amount
of
rain
or
runoff
in
the
area.
What
it
does
do
is
it
erodes
the
soil
that
is
directly
under
the
panel's
themselves
at
the
edge.
Basically,
what
happens
is
there's
a
drip
effect,
much
like
what
all
of
you
probably
see
on
the
edge
of
your
house
with
your
gutters
any
rain.
That
drops
creates
a
little
carving
in
the
ground
near
your
where
the,
where
the
drip
occurs.
That
does
increase,
because
the
velocity
of
the
rain
is
stronger
than
are.
N
The
velocity
of
the
runoff
is
stronger
than
the
velocity
of
the
rain,
which
hits
over
a
much
larger
area.
It
gets
concentrated
by
the
solar
panel
itself
to
occur
into
a
trough
area.
What
that
does
is
that
actually
increases
the
amount
of
particulate
which
then
contributes
to
the
increase
in
particulate
from
the
wind
that
gets
blown
to
all
of
our
houses
and
into
our
windows
through
when
we
open
our
windows,
etc.
N
O
Thank
you,
Thank
You,
chairman
wheeler
I'm,
here
on
behalf
of
a
large
number
of
residents
of
the
Bonfield
area,
may
8th.
You
approved
two
solar
farms
for
the
Bonfield
area,
I'm,
not
here
to
to
give
a
legal
opinion
as
to
whether
you
can
move
to
reconsider
or
not.
But
apparently
that
opinion
has
been
rendered
and
that's
why
it's
on
your
agenda
as
far
as
those
two
plans,
I
would
ask
that
you
consider
a
motion
to
reconsider
your
decision
on
those
plans.
First,
it
was
said
while
there
were
people
here
from
st.
O
Anne
objecting
and
that's
why
that
one
was
turned
down
the
same
time.
There
were
30
people
here
from
Bonfield
objecting
and
nobody
acknowledged
that,
but,
more
importantly,
your
Zoning
Board
of
appeals
process
and
I
defer
to
chairman
wheeler.
He
is
exactly
right
when
he
says
that's
where
the
fact-finding
process
should
occur.
If
you
looked
at
the
transcript
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
process.
O
In
those
two
cases
there
were
over
30
requests
for
continuance
because
there
had
been
it
as
small
as
5-day
notices
for
that
hearing.
How
on
earth
do
you
expect
your
citizens
to
come
forth
with
expert
testimony,
legal
testimony
and
response
to
months
and
months
and
years
of
planning
by
Cypress
Creek
when
you,
your
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals,
says
well
they're
here
and
they
came
from
out
of
town
and
therefore
we're
not
going
to
continue
this
case?
O
That's
not
due
process,
and
that
was
it
and
that's
where
yours
fact-finding
should
occur
and
if
the
residents
are
given
14
days
by
law
or
five
days
in
reality
of
notice,
there
is
no
way
they
could
respond
to
that
information,
hire
experts
and
proceed
on,
but
the
response
of
the
cba
and
thus,
then
the
response
of
the
pca
and
the
response
of
this
board
is
that's
too
bad.
We're
not
interested,
apparently
in
what
you
have
to
say,
because
we
want
to
proceed
on.
O
We
want
these
solar
farms
for
their
money,
for
whatever
benefit
they
give
to
the
county.
Therefore,
we're
going
to
proceed
on
this
is
a
legislative
decision
as
a
matter
of
law.
The
statute
says
a
hearing
on
a
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
is
reviewed
as
a
legislate
on
the
special
use.
Permit
is
reviewed
as
a
legislative
decision.
O
P
P
Borkowski
I'm
the
developer
on
the
Highland
project.
Matt
was
the
landowner
earlier,
talked
about
the
land
and
how
he
sought
out
developers
to
put
a
community
solar
garden
in
there
because
he
thought
it
was
better
use
of
that
very
unproductive
land
and
anything
else.
And
if
anybody
knows
Highland
this
past
year,
the
farmers
in
the
area
that
soil
is
not
good.
It
has
a
Lisa
score
of
150
or
below
whatever
you
know
somewhere
right
around
there
and
they
have
been
dumping
ample
amounts
of
manure
on
that
land
to
make
it
more
productive.
P
P
Just
gonna
go
through
a
couple
of
those
things
and
clarify
a
couple
of
those
things,
because
we're
committing
to
these
things,
as
as
a
part
of
the
project
and
the
county,
should
really
consider
these
things
and
looking
at
the
thirty-some-odd
solar
facilities.
So
a
couple
quick
examples.
So
the
couple
people
that
got
up
before
had
talked
about
toxic
chemicals
and
solar,
and
so
one
important
thing
to
note
is
though
toxic
chemical
is
largely
something
called
cadmium,
okay
and
that
cadmium
is
toxic.
The
difference
is
cadmium
is
only
found
in
thin
film,
solar
panels,
I
apologize.
A
P
So
we
are
making
a
pledges
as
a
part
of
our
special
use
permit
not
to
use
thin
film.
It's
only
crystalline
PV.
It
is
not
thin.
Film,
we've
also
met
with
the
neighbors,
and
we
we've
got
Snyder's
nursery
local
nursery
out
to
the
site
and
said
hey.
This
is
the
soil
conditions.
We
have
do
your
best
come
up
with
a
landscape
plan.
What
the
neighbor
said
is
they
don't
want
to
see
it
and
they
came
up
with
a
landscape
plan
for
us,
it's
a
very
expensive
landscape
plan,
but
it's
something
that
we've
gone
through.
P
We've
shared
the
types
of
bushes
and
trees
with
the
neighbors,
and
it
will
completely
uncover
you
know
and-
and
you
know,
shield
the
solar
facility-
we've
also
done
things
too.
You
know,
for
instance,
agree
to
have
a
soil
testing
to
make
sure
that
there
aren't
anything
that
gets
into
the
soil
we've.
Also
somebody
just
mentioned
something
about
particulate
s--
I
know
that
exact
study
and
the
fact
is
that's
on
a
fixed
mount
solar.
These
are
all
single
access
like
this,
so
the
drip
line
isn't
always
the
same,
and
it's
only
one
panel.
P
It's
not
five
panels
high
and
super
wide.
Okay,
it's
one
battle
that
goes
back
and
forth
very
slowly
throughout
the
course
of
the
day.
So
unless
it's
raining
at
the
exact
same
time,
you're
always
going
to
have
a
different
drip
line,
and
that's
why
you
know
that,
isn't
all
that
relevant
comment
to
thin-film
the
other
thing
that
we've
committed
to
that
again
can
key
should
consider
across
the
board-
and
this
is
a
result
of
the
neighbors
you
know
constantly
pushing
and
us
taking
the
time
to
meet
with
them
is
incorporating
pollinator-friendly
seed
mix
right.
P
The
other
thing
is
you
see
a
lot
of
pictures,
a
chain-link
fence.
Ours
is
not
gonna.
Have
that
chain-link
fence.
So
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
gonna
be
13
acres
on
very
unproductive
land.
Okay,
it
is
gonna,
have
a
pollinator
seed
mix.
It's
gonna
have
anti
reflective
glare
on
the
panels.
Again.
The
glare
that
was
mentioned
earlier
relates
to
thin
film.
It
doesn't
relate
to
crystalline
they're
gonna,
be
single,
so
you're
not
gonna.
Have
the
trip
lines
we're
gonna?
Have
the
ground
cover?
P
It's
gonna
be
farm,
fencing
around
it,
not
chain-link,
fencing,
okay
and
then
we're
gonna
have
a
you
know,
landscaping
as
done
by
local
group
Snyder's.
The
last
thing
is:
we've
made
a
commitment
and
put
inside
of
our
plan
that
we
are
subjecting
ourselves
to
a
five
hundred
dollar,
fine,
to
the
extent
that
any
of
our
shrubbery
dies
right
so
$500
a
week.
Fine.
Actually
he
can.
P
Let
me
say
that
until
it
gets
fixed,
so
we
are,
we
are
working
and
we
are
trying
to
create
the
best
in
class
that
every
other
solar
facility
in
this
county
should
be.
You
know
ascribing
to
as
far
as
not
having
you
know,
thin
film
or
you
know,
having
a
true
landscape
plan,
that's
going
to
be
protective
of
the
neighbors
and
those
types
of
things
so
we'd
like
you
to
take
those
facts
into
consideration.
As
you
consider
your
your
motion
to
to
revote.
Thank.
A
A
Q
Q
His
plan
looks
really
good
I
like
it
as
a
young
person,
but
we've
kind
of
switched
where
we're
focusing
with
this
actually
over
to
the
fact
that,
like
you're,
the
county
board-
and
you
have
a
right
to
vote
with
the
people
and
no
one
should
scare
you
into
not
voting
with
the
people
and
if
you
feel
like
you,
can't
if
you
feel
like
well,
they
don't
want
me
to
do
that
and
I
can't
do
that.
What
are
you
doing
here
if
you
feel
like
you,
can't
disagree
with
the
like
the
Zoning
Board?
R
Name
is
Thomas
H,
Elroy
I
lived
on
fern,
Street,
off
Highland,
Road
and
speaking
about
solar
farms
in
general.
One
of
the
concerns
that
I
have
with
things
is
the
fact
that
nobody
knows
exactly
what
these
results
are.
People
are
presenting
studies
from
both
sides
and
expecting
our
elected
people
to
go
ahead
and
make
decisions
based
upon
arguments
from
both
sides
simultaneously.
Some
of
the
comments
and
things
that
have
been
made
are
extremely
pertinent
and
it
should
be
up
to
this
board
to
go
ahead
and
research.
Some
of
these
types
of
things
in
more
depth.
R
They
should
be
taking
some
of
these
things,
as
mr.
Borkowski
has
expressed
about
his
particular
location
that
he's
talking
about
putting
in
which
is
the
one
that
would
affect
me.
The
most
some
of
the
things
that
are
great
concerns
are
he
is
trying
to
address
them
with
the
people
by
putting
them
into
his
proposal.
What
I
suggest,
instead
of
just
these
types
of
things,
is
that
this
board,
as
a
legislative
body,
should
go
ahead
and
turn
these
types
of
things
into
an
ordinance.
R
They
should
be
making
these
things,
be
a
plot
applicable
to
all
of
the
solar
farms
that
may
be
talking
about
coming
into
our
County.
One
of
the
main
concerns
that
this
county
board
should
have
is
for
its
citizens.
The
Berks
are
not
citizens
residents,
voters
of
this
county.
They
may
be
paying
some
taxes
based
upon
the
land
and
things
along
that
type
of
line,
but
they
are
not
the
people
who
are
electing
you
to
represent
us.
We
are
the
voters.
R
We
are
the
ones
who
are
electing
you
and
expect
you
to
represent
us
the
people
we
count
on
you
to
do
that.
That
is
why
you
receive
our
votes.
That
is
why
you
are
sitting
here
in
these
positions.
Today
we
ask
you,
as
people
in
residents
of
this
county,
to
look
these
types
of
situations
over
create
ordinances
that
will
create
these
types
of
fines.
R
I
suggest
strongly
that
you
table
any
of
these
types
of
votes
until
you
have
more
research
until
you
have
an
ordinance
in
place
that
you
can
go
ahead
and
make
sure
that
if
somebody
comes
in
and
dues
does
these
things,
there
would
be
soil
studies,
there
would
be
water
studies
that
would
be
taken
on
a
regular
basis
by
these
properties
to
make
sure
that
we,
the
residents,
do
not
suffer
from
it.
Thank
you.
A
Moving
on
to
communications,
I
have
three
letters
that
came
in
to
the
planning
department,
they're
supportive
letters,
but
they
are
improper
force
for
us.
I
have
to
notify
the
board
that
we
received
these.
This
is
considered
ex
parte
communication,
so
I
have
to
put
these
on
file,
but
as
part
of
the
process
and
this
board
member
should
be
doing
this
as
well.
A
You
should
notify
the
board
if
you
do
receive
ex
parte
communications,
the
any
email,
any
letters
any
of
that
I
also
received
a
series
of
text
messages
one
day
about
five
in
a
row
from
the
developer
at
Highland
Road.
Those
have
also
been
disclosed
us
through
a
FOIA
sent
to
I
believe
both
the
newspaper
and
as
somebody
else
who
void
my
text
messages.
So
the
nature
of
those
text
messages
were
simply
the
economic
development
and
the
pollinator
benefits
to
solar
farms,
and
it
wasn't
an
exchange
and
those
are
a
matter
of
public
records.
A
A
A
A
E
Mr.
chairman
and
members
of
the
County
Board,
your
Committee
on
county
claims
would
beg
leave
to
report.
They
have
examined
the
following
claims
presented
and
recommend
payment
through
the
clerk
is
hereby
authorized
and
directed
to
issue
orders
to
the
several
claimants
paid
AB
all
the
funds
as
follows:
the
highway
fund,
four
hundred
ten
thousand
three
hundred
twenty
dollars
and
sixteen
cents
all
other
funds.
E
Five
hundred
thirty
thousand
two
hundred
sixty
dollars,
51
cents
for
a
total
for
the
month
of
April
2018
of
nine
hundred
forty
thousand
five
hundred
eighty
dollars
and
sixty
seven
cents
from
the
general
fund.
Eight
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
$36.95
all
other
funds,
two
million
nine
hundred
sixty-five
thousand
two
hundred
thirty
five
dollars
and
nineteen
cents.
For
a
total
of
the
month
of
the
April
2018,
three
million
seven
hundred
eighty-five
thousand
two
hundred
seventy
two
dollars
and
fourteen
cents.
A
E
A
E
A
S
A
S
Than
if
I
am
that's
the
point
of
a
parliamentary
procedure,
a
motion
to
rescind
is
proper
because
it
is
after
the
meeting
we
have
a
motion
to
reconsider.
That
has
to
be
done
during
the
meeting.
A
motion
to
rescind
is,
after
the
meeting
that
you
can
check
with
the
parliamentary
procedures.
But
if
we
go
forward
that
I'm
going
to
have.
A
A
The
zba
in
my
six
years
on
this
more,
the
CBA
is
only
one
where
the
board
has
only
voted
against
the
CBA
one
time
they're
recommended,
and
that
was
in
a
committee
meeting.
This
has
never
happened
since
I've
been
here.
Okay,
so
it's
somewhat
caught
us
off-guard
me
and
Dell
both
so
we
bought
I
will
take
the
blame
for
that
that
we
didn't
really
think
it
was
going
to
be
that
way.
We
were
gonna
go
against
the
recommendations
we
did
so
when
I
sent
the
email
out
to
board
members
saying
I
need
your
finding.
A
A
fact
that
was
all
that
was
is
together
that
finding
of
fact
in
the
PZ
a
committee,
a
dissenting
vote
to
are
actually
an
affirmative
vote
to
that
motion.
Failing
made
the
motion
to
reconsider
mr.
Washington,
which,
by
Robert's
Rules
of
Order
and
our
County
code,
it
has
to
be
somebody
who
was
in
the
affirmative
that
makes
that
motion
okay.
So
that's
why
it
came
back
here
for
to
reconsider.
Okay.
So
that's
why
it's
in
front
of
you
today.
A
So
when
I
looked
at
Robert's
Rules
of
Order
and
I
sent
it
up
to
the
state's
attorney's
office,
the
the
Robert's
Rules
of
Order
is
very
specific.
Our
County
Code
is
very
vague.
It
says
the
same
meeting.
Does
that
mean
it's
the
full
board
meeting
or
the
same
day
doesn't
use
the
any
of
that
language.
It
just
says
the
same
meeting,
so
we
are
back
here
to
reconsider.
So
it's
at
this
point.
A
There
is
no
testimony
that
says
when
the
county
board,
what
they're
thinking
was
to
adopt
that
ordinance,
but
Robert's
Rules
of
Order
is
pretty
clear,
and
so
that's
why
we're
back
here
with
the
motion
to
reconsider
as
this
this
juncture
now
you
have
the
opportunity
to
say:
yes,
I
want
to
reconsider
it
or
no.
We
don't
need
to
reconsider
it.
Okay,
that's
what
your
vote
is
right
now
to
reconsider
this
vote.
A
S
Since
you
say
that
the
robber
rule
of
order
I
want
to
read
them
according
to
the
robber
rules
of
order
11th
edition,
there
are
two
ways:
a
decision
of
a
board
can
be
changed.
If
a
member
wants
to
change
the
decision
made
in
the
same
meeting,
they
will
use
a
motion
to
reconsider
if
it
is
necessary
to
change
a
decision
that
was
adopted
and
a
previous
meeting
a
member
would
make
a
motion
to
rescind
so
we're
going
to
follow
the
robber
rules
of
order.
Mr.
chairman
I
would
that
you
would
read
it
and
follow
it.
A
Thank
You
mr.
Snipes
I'm
following
the
county's
code,
which
is
vague.
You
that's
the
first
step
and
they
are.
If
you
look
at
it
says
if
the
same
meeting
is
not
next
to
it,
it's
a
quarterly
meeting.
You
have
to
go
at
the
very
next
full
board.
Meeting
it's
open
to
interpretation.
I!
Don't
think
this
is
the
last
we're
going
to
see
of
this
anyway.
A
To
my
it
to
be
my
honest
opinion,
so
I
am
just
doing
the
wishes
of
the
pz8
committee
and
putting
this
in
front
of
the
board
whether
you
vote
to
reconsider
or
not
is
really
immaterial
to
me.
I'm
doing
what
the
PCA
has
asked
me
to
do.
Okay
and
that's
what
we're
going
to
do
so
unless
there
is
there
a
motion
to
reconsider
on
the
floor
that
has
to
be
made
by
one
of
the
people
that
voted
no
in
PCA
I
mean
at
the
full
board
meeting
last
month,
I
apologize.
A
A
E
F
C
B
F
E
F
F
B
B
B
E
B
U
B
A
A
So
on
the
findings
of
fact
and
and
the
the
way
this
is
framed
and
L
I
want
to
make
sure
that
in
gram,
these
are,
if
you
agree
or
disagree
with
the
findings
of
the
CBA,
okay
and
you've,
been
given
the
what
is
it
six
criteria,
five
or
six
ATS
six
criteria
and
hold
on
just
a
moment?
Please,
and
at
this
point,
I
have
received
responses
from
mr.
Lodge
s,
and
these
will
go
into
the
record
on
on
the
substantiate
their
vote.
A
A
A
V
V
Finding
a
fact
number
three,
that
the
establishment
of
the
special
use
will
not
be
substantially
will
not
substantially
impede
the
normal
and
orderly
development
and
improvement
of
the
surrounding
properties
for
use
is
permitted
in
the
district
number.
Four
that
adequate
utilities,
access,
roads,
drainage
and
or
necessary
facilities
have
been
or
will
be
provided.
V
Number
five
that
adequate
measures
have
been
or
will
be
taken
to
provide
ingress
and
egress.
So
design
is
to
minimize
traffic
congestion
in
the
public
street
that
the
special
use
will,
in
all
other
respects,
conform
to
the
applicable
regulations
of
the
district
in
which
it
is
located,
except,
as
such
regulations
may
in
each
instance,
be
modified
by
the
board.
V
F
D
A
Y
A
Y
T
B
A
E
E
A
E
A
Z
E
B
E
Z
Z
A
So
we
have
a
motion
to
accept
128,
as
it
is
mr.
Trippe
and
then
a
second
mrs.,
Parker
and
then
and
I'll
make
a
motion
to
amend
you'd,
making
your
motion
to
amend
to
strike
14
and
15
out
of
there.
Yes,
is
there
a
second
to
that
motion
to
amend
mrs.
Evans,
all
those
in
favor
of
the
amendment,
those
opposed?
Oh
yeah,
oh
I'm,
sorry,
I,
apologize,
I,
just
thought
everybody
wanted
it
boys.
X
E
Please
yeah
good
morning,
I've
had
some
conversations
with
some
residents
over
in
the
Mary
crest
of
the
seventh
Ward
area,
which
would
be
the
area
where
those
precincts
are
located
and
they
had
some
concerns
about
consolidating
those
precincts,
so
in
light
of
their
their
concerns.
That's
why
I
asked
to
have
this
stricken
it's
something
that
we
can
revisit
a
year
from
now.
I
apologize.
S
In
light
of
14
and
15,
which
is
Steve,
hunter
and
I,
think
was
one
Republican
they're
in
each
one
in
that
14
and
15th,
or
whether
they
had
some
concerns
and
I
guess
they
address
them
that
they
come
give
you
a
call
in
10
and
13.
That's
tyranny
and
myself,
and
the
reason
that
I
was
opposed
against
this
in
the
in
the
committee
meeting
was
that
it
effect
tyranny
and
I
had
that
opportunity
to
talk
with
him.
S
A
T
A
This
is
on
the
amendment.
Thank
you
for
that
nice
save,
so
all
those
in
favor
of
the
amendment,
those
opposed
to
the
amendment
okay,
so
that
carries
now
the
motion,
as
is
it
amended,
consolidating
can't
keep
precincts
10
and
13
for
the
2018
general
election
as
well
as
subsequent
elections.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
on
that.
Is
there
any
more
discussion
on
that
yeah
first
time
discussion,
anyone
what.
S
Ten
and
thirteen
again
in
vols
district
18th,
that's
my
district
tyranny
is
the
precinct
committeeman
over
ten
and
then
I
am
over
13
at
this
time.
There
is
no
real
reason
for
us
to
have
to
consolidate
that.
We
are
already
consolidated
to
to
get
into
30
into
13
to
consolidate
10
I'm,
saying
I
am
because
it
is
my
district
and
because
he's
expressed
interest
to
continue
to
serve
as
priestly
commitments,
and
we
need
as
many
what
I
can
say
to
be
public
service
in
Kankakee
County
as
possible.
A
A
E
The
may
community
services
meeting
and
actually
previous
to
that
and
under
the
request
of
the
Chairman,
to
examine
potential
areas
for
about
reconsolidation.
We
did
look
at
the
number
of
people
that
vote
at
the
at
each
polling,
place
and
Kankakee
precincts,
10
and
13
were
among
those
that
could
be
consolidated.
E
Several
factors
were
in
there
as
far
as
you
know,
size
of
the
polling
place
being
able
to
get
election
judges,
and
we
did
converse
with
the
election
judges
at
10
and
13.
The
judges
are
extremely
in
favor
of
consolidating.
They
said
that
the
unit
that
has
worked
and
we've
we've
combined
those
judges
for
the
past
two
elections
that
they
work
well
together,
don't
see
any
reason
why
they
would
not
continue
to
work
well
together.
D
A
AA
E
S
It
will,
as
far
as
the
judges
coming
together,
we
just
object
to
the
precincts
being
consolidated.
We
agree
with
the
cascadas
consolidation
when
we
pull
the
two
together
for
13
or
whatever,
and
now
we've
coming
back
to
make
13
and
10
going
into
the
river
views
and
the
other
areas.
I
think
that
we
need
to
leave
those
areas
as
they
are,
there's
no
great
need
when
Dan
brought
it
to
us.
Ii
really
wasn't
looking
for
a
vote
on
that.
It
was
an
the
board.
S
Member
did
make
the
motion,
and
so,
as
a
result,
we
agreed
upon
the
sons,
but
these
was
pulled
out.
For
that
particular
reason.
One
is
I
needed
to
talk
to
the
precinct
commitments
in
Kankakee
and
they
vocalize
the
14
and
15
and
we're
taking
the
same
objection
in
10
and
13
because
of
the
condensity
of
Kankakee.
A
A
D
A
S
A
X
AA
Thank
you
again.
You
know
we
talked
to
lots
today
concerning
the
precinct
committeemen,
but
my
concern
is
more
for
the
voters
and
and
I
think
that
we
could
better
prepare
them.
If
we
find
out
that
it
does
not
support
having
the
bose
presense
by
the
next
election,
then
we
have
time
to
make
a
decision
and
take
it
out.
You
know
I'm
concerned
about
voters,
confusion,
you
know,
they're
gonna
be
going
there
to
vote
and
then
they're
gonna
be
told
all
you
got
to
vote
here.
So
mr.
E
AA
A
E
X
E
S
E
J
E
AC
To
comment
I've
been
observing
these
judges
for
many
years,
and
the
population
is
aging
fast
and
it's
difficult
to
get
younger
people
more
involved
with
the
judging
process.
I
prevail
on
all
of
the
members
of
this
board
to
try
and
find
more
judges
to
carry
out
this
most
important
process
than
we
have
Thank
You.
X
A
E
F
B
E
B
B
A
E
Resolution
to
the
County
Board
of
Kankakee
County
Illinois
authorizing
the
County
Board
Chairman
to
sign
an
intergovernmental
agreement
for
the
use
of
River
Valley
juvenile
detention
center.
Whereas
the
Illinois
intergovernmental
cooperation,
Act,
5il,
cs2
20/3,
provides
that
any
power
or
powers,
privileges,
functions
or
authority
exercised
or
which
may
be
exercised
by
public
agency
of
this
state
may
be
exercised
combined,
transferred
and
enjoyed
jointly
with
any
other
public
agency
of
this
state.
And
whereas
Kankakee
County
and
Will
County
entered
into
an
intergovernmental
agreement
in
1996
to
construct
and
operate
the
River
Valley
juvenile
justice
on
him.
E
And
whereas
this
agreement
allowed
for
Kankakee
County
to
be
bought,
bought
out
of
its
25%
ownership
interest
in
the
River
Valley
Juvenile,
Justice
Center
and
whereas
Kankakee
County
and
Will
County.
Both
agree
that
the
previous
intergovernmental
agreement
no
longer
serves
the
best
interests
of
either
county.
And
whereas
the
chairman
of
the
County
Board
state's
attorney
director
of
probation
and
Court
Services
and
the
finance
director
have
negotiated
with
their
counterparts
in
Will
County
and
recommend
the
attached
inter-government
governmental
agreement.
And
whereas
the
counties
have
agreed
that
the
total
buyout
will
be
5.5
million.
1
million.
E
In
cash,
Will
County
will
release
Kankakee
all
liabilities
accrued
up
to
and
including
April
30th
2018,
and
the
remaining
2.5
million
shall
be
a
credit
for
future
detention
services
and
whereas
at
the
regular
executive
committee
meeting
of
May
23rd
2018
after
review
discussion
and
consideration
recommends
that
the
County
Board
Chairman
be
authorized
to
sign
the
attached
intergovernmental
agreement
for
River
Valley.
Juvenile.
Just
detention
center.
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
by
the
Kankakee
County
Board
that
the
County
Board
Chairman
is
authorized
to
sign
the
attached
intergovernmental
agreement
for
River
Valley
juvenile
detention
center.
A
A
S
When
was
paying
ninety
thousand
dollars
a
month
or
better
to
house
juveniles
and
I
do
know
that
the
law
is
lacks
in
some
areas
to
get
them
on
bracelets
and
some
other
things,
and
so
I
was
reserved
as
to
really
coming
right
out
of
the
deal,
but
then
dealing
with
the
cash-strapped
enos
of
Kankakee.
What
I
do
have
a
problem
is
when
I
look
at
those
numbers,
even
though
out
of
5.5
million
that
we
are
supposed
to
be
getting
back
and
a
million
in
cash
I'm.
S
Looking
at
the
the
numbers
are
higher
for
us
to
pay
like
$275
or
whatever
it
is,
and
then
it
comes
back
to
the
150,
then
it
it.
Then
it's
open
as
to
what
they
will
charge
us
once
they
have
the
whole
control
and
I
know.
They've
already
passed
it,
but
my
I
was
concerned
or
my
eyebrow
was
raised
and
why
wasn't
the
rate
the
same
across
the
board
for
the
five
point,
five
million,
which
would
have
gave
us
more
bang
for
our
buck?
S
A
First
of
all,
we
had
a
fixed
amount
of
money
that
was
left
and
I'll
call
it
the
kitty
up
there
above
what
the
buyout
money
would
be
going
towards
future
detainees
in
that
facility,
the
thought
process
and
it's
wasn't
really
thought
process.
It
was
the
facts
that
every
single
year,
their
costs,
increased
by
union
contracts,
and
so
it
was
a
way
for
me
to
lock
in
a
rate
and
that
included
everything
and
Tom
could
speak
to
this
from
the
probation
standpoint.
A
Who's
really
in
charge
of
the
maintenance
of
this
program
was
to
lock
in
that
rate,
for
full
services.
Psychiatric
education,
as
we
all
know,
I
mean
the
whole
deal.
It's
it's
a
it's
not
like
a
normal
adult
person
in
jail
here
locally.
Were
they
there's
all
these
services
that
have
to
be
made
available,
as
ordered
by
the
judge
and
so
for
the
next
few
years
that
allows
for
their
costs
increase
right
now,
their
daily
rate
is
a
hundred
and
forty
dollars
a
day.
It's
and
that
concludes
no
services.
A
That's
what
they
charge
paying
customers
off
the
street,
so
what
we
agreed
to
was
is
make
it
150
at
the
end
or
whatever
their
daily
rate
is
for
no
services,
and
that's
for
that
final
year.
Then
we
renegotiate
at
that
point.
So
this
isn't
going
past
that
final
year
it
was
so
we
had
that
predictability
as
when
the
money
ran
out.
If
you
will
in
the
kitty
that
we
have
an
established
rate,
that
is
on
the
books
for
basic
services,
because
we
all
don't
know
what
is
the
criminal
justice
as
far
as
juveniles
is
gonna.
A
S
A
Know
that
we
don't
know
if
the
judges
are
going
to
be
ordering
those
services.
This
is
all
determined
by
what
the
judge
is
ordered
to.
We
also
had
to
consider.
We
don't
know
what
the
age
of
a
miner
is
gonna
be
going
forward.
It
could
still
be
the
same.
It
could
be
up
to
21
like
they're,
talking
about
which
presents
all
kinds
of
problem,
there's
a
lot
of
unknowns,
but
those
unknowns
exist.
If
this
agreement
or
did
not
did
exist
or
did
not.
A
So
we
made
the
decision
to
predict
our
cost
for
the
next
four
and
a
half
years
now,
rather
than
know
we're
going
to
be
paying
twice
what
we
could
under
this
agreement
and
I
hope
that
makes
sense,
it
was
a
way
to
basically
use
liquidity
in
a
facility.
We're
not
gonna
have
to
pay
for
the
next
four
or
seven
years,
which
is
addition
by
subtraction
and
our
future
budgets.
While
we
crawl
out
of
that
hole,
one
thing
I
cautioned
the
board
is,
is
be
ready
when
we
do
have
to
start
paying.
A
So
that's
been
a
reminder
on
the
calendar,
for
the
the
administration
calendar
is.
Is
that
next
year's
budget
before
is
is
make
sure
you
allocate
for
juvenile
detention?
That
makes
sense,
because
we
have
to
those
those
years
once
we're
out
of
the
hole
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we're
able
to
fund
that
properly
and
not
go
to
you
know
six-month
in
arrears
again,
so
I
hope
that
answer.
Is
it
completely.
S
A
S
W
Z
A
S
Yes,
my
of
all
purposes.
I
knows
we
use
the
word.
No
grain
or
weather,
but
I
always
say
I
want
to
make
sure
this
is
a
that
this
deal
is
not
a
bill
appeal
for
the
taxpayers
to
swallow
down
the
road.
So
that's
my
only
reservation
in
this
or
whatever
I'd
rather
have
it
and
not
need
it,
then
the
needed
and
don't
have
it.
X
F
E
J
E
A
Was
not
probably
a
good
taste
I
apologize,
the
other
business
openings
have
two
openings
on
the
keiki
County
Regional
Planning
Commission,
one
opening
on
manteno
drainage
number,
three
one
on
manteno
drainage,
number:
nine!
When
opening
on
the
Wilkin
Regional
Development
Authority,
two
openings
on
the
Essex
Township
Fire
Protection
District,
one
opening
on
the
Kankakee
County
Board
of
Health
I,
think
we
received
that
application
and
two
openings
on
the
ethics
committee.
Commission
I've
C
received
one
application
for
reappointment.
Mr.
Stauffenberg
Thank.
F
You
chairman
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
comment,
a
kind
of
one
to
make
it
after
a
consent
agenda
vote,
but
just
because
we
changed
all
the
zoning
of
these
for
these
solar
farms,
it
doesn't
mean
they're,
totally
approved.
They
got
a
lot
of
Hoops
to
jump
through
and
I
appreciate,
Delbert's
explanation
of
that
a
few
weeks
ago
of
all
the
hoops
they
got
to
jump
through,
because
some
of
these
may
never
get
placed.
No,
they
do
have
to
jump
through
a
lot
of
Hoops.
F
A
That's
a
good
point
and
because
it
comes
up
from
time
to
time
and
the
approval
that
says
it's
an
appropriate
spot
is
the
first
part.
If
it
doesn't
pass
engineering
muster,
then
it
never
happens
or
if
they
don't
get
the
energy
credits,
it
doesn't
happen
or
if
they
get
the
credits
and
they
say
I'm
gonna
do
these.
Instead
of
those
I
mean
and
then
I'm
going
for
the
engineering.
So
it's
really
not
just
because
it
passes
here
doesn't
mean
it's
gonna
happen.
A
S
S
If
we
can
get
a
feasible
study
up
on
that,
I
think
it'll
be
easier
for
the
office
to
send
board
members
things
or
whatever,
and
since
tablets
are
around
a
couple
of
hundred
bucks
or
less
most
of
what
we
spent
on
the
paper
I'm
thinking
that
it
would
be
cost
prohibitive
to
continue
to
take
all
the
papers
versus
having
it
in
the
tablet.
That's.
A
Mine
and
the
repair
of
the
copier
that
keeps
breaking
down
right,
actually
I
agree
with
you
and
it
sounds
like
you
just
volunteered
the
chair
of
Subcommittee
on
the
subject
a
second
mr.
Berg.
Oh,
you
are
now
the
chairman
of
the
subcommittee.
No
not
actually
I
do
agree
with
you.
We
brought
this
up
about
three
or
four
years
ago,
but
at
the
time
we
were
trying
to
rub
nickels
together
to
make
dollars
and
we
could
even
afford
to
spend
the
money
to
save
money.
Does
that
make
sense?
I
mean
it's
like
preventative
maintenance.
A
We
couldn't
even
afford
to
do
preventative
maintenance
at
the
time
because
we
were
just
chasing
bills.
So
once
we
crawl,
I'd,
say
the
first
couple
of
months
in
nineteen
we
may
actually
be,
and
it's
looking
like,
we
might
have
some
cash.
If
you
will
I
think
it's
worthwhile
to
look
at
it.
I
absolutely
agree
with
you,
you
know,
and
the
county
would
would
buy
the
first
one.
It
remains
with
the
seat.
S
A
We
email
out
all
these
documents,
so
if
you,
you
know,
we'd
be
happy
to
to
look
at
this
and
see
what
the
spend
is
so
just
be
thinking
about
it,
and
you
know
we'll
take
a
look
at
that
verse.
We
can
kind
of
guess
what
paper
and
ink
it
cost
and
and
maintenance
on
that
copier,
whose
years
off
of
a
Diane's
life
yeah.