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From YouTube: Criminal Justice Committee Meeting 09/14/2022
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Criminal Justice Committee Meeting 09/14/2022 7:30am
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A
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I
happened
to
be
in
the
basement
at
the
time
and
it
was
very
well
attended
a
lot
of
interest
in
that.
So
that's
proceeding
along.
The
second
item
is
our
case
management
system.
You
know
we're
in
the
process
of
of
obtaining
bids
to
replace
the
court
view
system,
which
is
extremely
antiquated
and
com
not
able
to
be
used
effectively
in
in
our
community
again
we're
the
only
state,
only
a
county
in
the
state
of
illinois
that
utilizes
court
view.
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So
we
are
looking
for
the
bids
to
replace
that
we
did
receive
four
bids
last
part
of
august.
I
think
it
was
august.
25Th
was
the
deadline
and
we
did
receive
four
we're
in
the
process
of
taking
a
look
at
those
they're
hundreds
of
pages
long
each,
and
we
want
to
set
up
demonstrations
with
at
least
a
couple
of
them.
D
So
they
can
come
in
and
and
show
us
their
product
show
us
what
bells
and
whistles
they
have
and
which
ones
are
optional,
which
ones
can
we,
you
know,
do
without
that
kind
of
thing,
and
so
that's
that's
proceeding
along
then.
The
the
third
item
which
is
of
interest-
and
I
think
you'll
hear
some
more
about
it
this
morning,
but
is
the
safety
act
going
into
effect
or
also
called
the
cashless
bail
act?
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D
The
the
conference
of
chief
judges
which
meets
in
chicago
every
month
got
a
meeting
on
friday,
and
it's
been
the
topic
of
discussion
for
for
many
months
now,
there's
also
a
a
statewide
committee,
that's
headed
by
one
of
our
chief
judges,
clint
hall
from
lake
county
and
or
kane
king
county,
and
he
is
shepherding
this
committee
and
they're
holding
the
town
hall
meetings.
Those
are
broadcast
and
and
publicly
available
now
we're
meeting
about
every
two
weeks
or
so.
D
For
for
that-
and
at
this
point
the
the
chief
judge's
position
is
that
this
is
the
law
and
we
have
to
abide
by
it.
There
still
could
be
some.
Some
potential
changes,
some
possible
trailer
bills
coming
up
in
the
veto
session.
We
don't
think
those
are
going
to
go
anywhere,
but
there's
still
some
some
hope
that
there
might
be
some
changes.
D
There's
been
proposals
to
repeal
the
whole
act,
but
that
has
not
gained
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
ground,
so
we're
meeting
we're
as
a
local
group.
I've
asked
judge
dickinson
to
to
head
that
up
locally
here
and
meeting
with
stakeholders
and
coming
up
with
what
we
think
we're
going
to
need
to
do
to
comply
with
this
new
law.
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D
Well,
we
we
met
actually
yesterday
afternoon
with
mr
rowe
and
mr
panowick
and
miss
judge,
dickinson
and
discuss
that
very
topic,
and
it's
that
still
hasn't
been
decided.
The
law
is
not
clear,
it's
convoluted,
it
contradicts
itself,
it
is
poorly
written
and
we're
not.
We
don't
have
an
answer
to
that.
Yet
one
possibility
is
that
we
hold
preemptive
hearings
in
december
and
say:
okay,
these
these
50
people
should
be
detained
after
january
1st,
whereas
if
they
were
arrested
after
january
1st,
they
wouldn't
be
detained.
Unless
there
was
a
hearing
for
that.
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F
Just
two
and
a
half
d,
and
I
guess
the
the
we
have
kind
of
piggybacks
off
of
the
second
question.
So
let
me
ask
the
second
question.
First,
this
cash
bill
there
is
data,
that's
going!
That's
that's
out
there
in
the
media,
world
and
a
lot
of
people
are
are
concerned
because
it
suggests
that
the
hardcore
or
the
felonies
murderers
rapists,
everything
when
they
come
to
the
door.
They're
let
go
and
you
have
no
jurisdiction,
and
I
don't
think
that
that's
totally
true.
F
So
I
guess
on
the
piggyback
of
that
is
what
is
considered
detainable
and
where
is
your
discretion
as
to
whether
or
not
we
can
keep
those
individuals
that
would
be
questionable
as
far
as
their
you
know,
conducting
character
in
incarcerated
until
they
get
that
trial
cause.
I
think
there's
a
90-day
thing,
that's
up
in
there
outside
of
the
constitutional
right
to
a
speedy
trial
if
they
sold
requests
and
all
that.
So
I
know
it's
a
lot
of
it's
a
convoluted
question,
but
no.
D
I
understand
your
question
I
I
can
speak
to
it
there.
There
is
a
laundry
list
of
what
we
call
detainable
offenses,
and
I
can
certainly
get
that
to
you
if
you'd
like
to
email,
it
or
but
they're
defined
as
forcible
felonies
that
are
non-probationable,
so
your
murder
would
be
one
of
those,
so
those
the
very
very
serious
crimes
are
are
detainable.
D
It's
the
the
crimes
that
are
maybe
not
murder
or
rape,
sex
cases,
domestic
batteries,
those
are
all
detainable,
but
some
of
the
other
cases
that
fall
through
the
cracks
or
the
the
drug
cases.
And
it's
been
said
that
you
can
drive
a
semi
load
of
fentanyl
through
kankakee,
get
stopped
and
they
can't
hold
you
now.
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F
Okay
and
then
the
first
question,
hopefully
is
one
that'll
help
you
out.
I
didn't
want
to
answer
for
you,
but
I
do
get
a
sometimes
a
laundry
list
of
individuals
who
claim
they
can't
find
community
service
and
so
a
lot
of
times
when
they
come.
There's
one
individual.
I
know
in
pacific
decided
to
say
the
baby
is
sick
or
whatever.
So
it
was
like
three,
but
they
came
to
me
and
said:
can
you
find
community
service
so
for
the
record
st
vinson
said
that
they
will
take.
F
So
if
you
put
that
on
the
list-
and
I
just
I
think
the
ladies
will
be
coming
for
you
sometime
this
week-
but
I
said
I
would
show
up
myself
if
if
it
was
another
excuse
so
she's
in
there
and
now
she's
doing
her
one
hours
of
communities
100
hours
of
community
service,
so
just
to
kind
of
leave
your
burden
leave
on
a
good
note
if
they
have
to
have
community
services
and
can't
find
it
same.
Business
say
they'll
take
all
especially
to
unload
those
trucks
and
get
the
stuff
on
the
floor.
F
D
About
a
year
ago,
mr
latham
and
his
department
agreed
to
take
over
the
monitoring
of
our
public
service
work
and
they're
doing
a
fantastic
job.
It
does
a
couple
of
things:
it
eliminates
the
people
having
to
come
back
to
court
every
two
or
three
months
to
report
on
their
public
service
work
and
we're
not
really
in
a
position
to
monitor
their
public
service
work,
but
st
vinson
has
been
on
the
list
for
a
a
long
time.
I
don't
know
if
they're
still
on
they're
selling,
your.
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G
H
G
So
the
basement
project
we're
working
feverishly
again
on
that
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
have
to
talk
to
chairman
wheeler
about
we
have
the
the
the
books
that
craig
talked
about
the
one
time
we're
going
to
have
to
store
them
somewhere.
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
be
able
to
process
those
and
there's
probably
four
or
six
hundred
four
or
five
hundred
books
or
quite
a
bunch.
So
I'll
need
to
talk
to
you
about
that,
but
so
we're
finishing
up
the
basement
project.
E
G
Right
so
they
have
to
petition
the
court
at
the
time
that
it's
going,
that
it's
in
court
and
then
the
judge
and
then
when
they
do,
the
sentencing
order
they'll
either
give
us
the
order
to
waive
either
25
50,
75
or
100.
If
they're
going
to
allow
it
and
then
we
have
to
go
in
and
have
you
know,
mon
modify
the
assessments.
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A
J
You
can
see
they
returned
44,
true
bills
at
the
last
grand
jury,
and
that
brings
us
to
up
to
567
for
the
year
last
year.
At
this
time
we
had
721
cases
had
gone
to
grand
jury.
So
it's
about
a
20
reduction
which
we
haven't
changed
anything
in
our
changing
in
our
charging
policies-
and
you
know
law
enforcement
still
sending
the
cases
up
to
us.
So
hopefully
that's
a
a
good
trend.
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A
J
Just
a
few
other
quick
things,
what
our
circuit
clerk
touched
on
on
the
collections
doubling
that
number
last
month,
that
is
a
tall
task.
Desiree
gore
in
our
office
works
on
collections.
You
know
john
terry
desi,
they're,
a
part
of
it
as
well,
but
desi
for
a
couple
years
now
has
really
kind
of
been
the
point
person
on
that
and
the
numbers
were
significantly
higher
a
couple
years
ago.
J
They
have
gone
down,
but
it's
not
any
result
of
her
efforts.
Primarily
a
lot
of
our
collections
for
the
county
would
come
through
the
illinois
debt
recovery
program,
which
is
a
program
through
the
illinois
state
comptroller's
office.
A
couple
years
ago,
I
think
in
2020,
comptroller
susana
mendoza
decided
that
she
wasn't
going
to
garnish
tax
returns
or
wages
to
pay
court
fines
or
municipal
debts
anymore.
J
That
was
a
significant
source
of
recovery
right
around
tax
time
every
year.
We
would
get
a
lot
of
money
coming
in
the
door
through
that
manner.
Now
she
put
that
on
pause,
and
it
still
is
not
in
effect
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge,
so
that
we've
seen
a
big
drop
in
collections
as
a
result
of
that,
it's
it.
Basically,
you
know
shifts
that
burden
back
onto
the
taxpayers,
even
more
and
not
on
to
the
criminals.
So,
but
I
think
desi
has
done
a
great
job
with
that.
J
J
J
We
did
that
because
there
are
a
lot
of
grants
out
there,
that
a
county
may
qualify
or
a
governmental
entity
and
then
there's
a
lot
of
grants
that
we
don't
qualify
for
as
a
county
or
as
a
prosecutor's
office.
So
this
501c3
is
going
to
allow
us
to
access
a
lot
more
money,
primarily
probably
more
for
the
prevention
and
intervention
initiatives
than
the
prosecution
side
of
the
office,
but
equally
as
important,
and
it's
going
to
open
up
some
more
pockets
for
us.
J
There's
a
lot
of
studies
out
there
that
show
that,
when
a
specifically
a
father
is
involved
in
a
young
boy's
life
that
child
is,
I
don't
know,
800
percent,
I
believe
less
likely
to
end
up
in
the
system
and
one
common
theme
we
see
with
young
men
who
come
into
our
system
is
mom.
Is
there
grandma?
Is
there?
Grandpa
may
be
there,
but
a
lot
of
times
dad
isn't
for
for
a
number
of
reasons.
So
this
program
starts
to
bring
dad
back
into
that
relationship.
J
Beyond
that,
I
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
safety
act.
I
think
there's
a
tremendous
amount
of
confusion
because
of
the
way
the
bill
is
written
and
that's
leading
to
a
lot
of
misinformation
out
in
the
community.
Everyone
seems
to
have
a
view.
I've
seen
things
from
the
governor's
office
that
says
every
offense
can
be
detained
and
that
judges
still
have
discretion
to
keep
dangerous
people
in
prison.
That
is,
that
is
simply
false.
J
It's
just
not
true.
You
know.
If
anyone's
read
the
bill
and
I've
read
it
multiple
times
over
the
past
year,
the
trailer
bills-
it's
simply
not
true,
and
then
there's
some
things
out
there
that
say
no
one
can
be
detained
everyone's
going
to
walk
out
on
january
1st,
and
I
don't
want
the
community
to
think
that
that's
true
either.
So,
if
I
could
I'm
going
to
walk
through
this
extremely
fast,
you
can
go
past
this
one.
J
Okay,
these
were
some
of
the
main
reforms,
in
my
opinion
on
this
house
bill
3653,
what's
detainable,
what's
not
the
90-day
provision,
what
happens
when
someone
doesn't
come
to
court
reduced
periods
of
parole
and
then
how
it
impacts
our
ability
to
protect
witnesses
and
victims,
the
detainable
offenses?
So
if
you're
looking
for
offenses
that
this
statute
says,
are
our
detainable
offenses
you're,
primarily
looking
at
first-degree
murder,
sex,
offenses,
domestic
violence,
stalking
and
a
majority
of
the
firearm
offenses?
J
Now,
where
you
get
into
the
weeds
on
this
stuff,
is
when
can
we
detain
someone
for
perhaps
a
sex
offense
or
a
domestic
violence?
Well,
someone
comes
in
with
that
charge.
The
state
has
to
file
a
petition
asking
the
court
to
detain
that
person.
In
that
petition.
We
have
to
be
able
to
allege
that
it
is
a
forcible
felony
and
that
it
is
either
not
probationable
or
that
it
falls
within
one
of
these
listed
offenses
and
then
in
most
instances
we
have
to
identify
a
specific
person
to
whom
this
defendant
poses
a
specific
threat.
J
J
I
can't
name
a
specific
person
by
name
in
my
petition,
to
detain
so
there's
a
good
chance,
billy's
walking,
unless
I
can
satisfy
that
second
prong,
which
is
what
judge
cunnington
talked
about,
and
that's
where
you
start
to
talk
about
willful
flight
and
that's
why
the
governor
can
come
out
and
other
people
and
can
say
that
every
defense
is
detainable.
The
judges
have
full
discretion.
J
All
the
court
can
go
on
is
whether
we
can
prove
that
they
are
actively
trying
to
conceal
themselves
and
evade
prosecution.
So
we
had
a
case
once
I
think
the
sheriff
and
myself
got
facebook
messages
from
someone
who
said
he
was
at
a
hooters
in
mexico
and
he
was
never
coming
back.
That's
probably
the
only
case
I
can
think
of
in
six
years
in
this
job,
where
I
could
prove
that
someone
was
evading
prosecution
and
actively
trying
to
conceal
themselves,
because
I
have
actual
proof
of
it
there.
J
It
is
going
to
be
very
difficult
to
detain
very
dangerous
people
in
our
community.
After
january
1st,
when
we
start
to
talk
about
kidnapping
when
we
talk
about
robbery,
when
we
talk
about
drug
trafficking,
the
example
that
the
judge
gave
it's
going
to
be
an
almost
impossible
hurdle
by
the
way
that
this
statute
has
been
drafted.
J
It
is
bipartisan.
He's
worked
with
states
attorneys
on
both
sides
of
the
aisle
public
officials,
public
safety
leaders,
he's
worked
with
community
activists,
community
agency
groups,
it's
it's
a
bipartisan
bill
and
it
would
really
resolve
at
least
the
five
biggest
concerns
you
can
go
past
this
one
90
days
to
trial
huge
problem,
huge
huge
problem
here.
This
is
probably
one
of
the
most
dangerous
elements
of
this
bill.
If
someone
is
arrested,
we
have
90
days
to
get
them
to
trial,
or
else
they
will
be
released.
J
Now,
there's
a
provision
in
there.
That
says
that's
only
if,
unless
the
delay
is
attributable
to
the
defendant,
so
if
the
defendant
asks
for
a
continuance,
if
the
defendant
is
trying
to
secure
witnesses,
that
delay
is
attributable
to
them,
it
doesn't
count
against
our
90.
but
consider,
for
instance,
a
case
in
which
someone
who
knows
that
they
are
facing
life
in
prison.
Perhaps
they've
murdered
a
police
officer
in
our
community
and
you've
got
multiple
agencies
involved.
J
You
have
dna
evidence
at
labs
in
the
state
of
illinois,
perhaps
fiber
analysis,
ballistics,
fingerprints
and
you're
waiting
for
the
lab
to
process.
All
of
that
evidence
for
all
those
agencies
to
collect
all
of
their
reports
and
send
them
to
us
so
that
we
can
proceed
to
trial
and
that
person
wants
his
90
days
under
current
law.
E
J
Well,
there's
no
there's
no
clear
indication
for
that
in
the
statute
we
have
to.
We
have
to
assume,
of
course,
that
it's
retroactive
for
people
that
are
in
custody.
I
think
if,
if
that's
not
the
case,
then
I
mean
that's
clearly
the
spirit
of
the
statute,
right
that
this
applies
to
people
that
are
in
custody.
So
on
january
1
anyone
that's
in
custody
it'll
apply,
but
I
don't
believe
that
that
90
days
should
be
retroactive,
because
the
90
days
doesn't
start
until
the
statute
is
effective.
J
A
With
what
the
chief
judge
said,
though,
if
they
hold
the
hearings
before
you
know
they're,
I
can't
remember
exactly
how
he
said
it.
You
know
they
could
be
in
jeopardy
if
they
hold
the
hearings
before
unholy
them.
Why
does
this
law
affect
them?
Because
the
law
don't
go
into
effect
until
january
1st?
Why
does
it
already
affect
somebody?
That's
in
custody.
J
J
How
do
you
expect
their
attorneys
to
be
able
to
get
into
all
the
jurisdictions
within
those
days
to
hear
hundreds
of
cases?
We
would
effectively
have
to
use
probably
three
four
five
court
rooms
in
this
county
for
days
to
have
a
hundred
or
more
hearings
sheriff.
I
think
we
have
260
approximately
people
in
custody
223,
so
you
know
there's
a
good
chance,
hopefully
that
a
lot
of
them
are
detainable
and
will
be
filing
petitions
to
detain
on
a
lot
of
those
individuals,
but
they
each
require
their
own
hearing.
J
As
far
as
when
someone
fails
to
appear
in
court,
so
let's
say
they're
not
detained
or
let's
say
that
the
90
days
comes
and
goes
and
they're
released
on
that
provision.
If
they
don't
come
back
to
court,
we
can
no
longer
issue
a
warrant
when
they
fail
to
appear.
We
have
to
send
them
a
rule
to
show
cause
which
is
a
letter.
J
It's
a
pretty
please
letter,
it
says
pretty,
please
come
back
to
court
and
the
police
have
to
go
out
with
this
letter
law
enforcement-
I
don't
know
if
that's
the
sheriff
or
the
local
jurisdiction
for
the
case
arose
because
there's
no
guidance
again.
They
have
to
find
this
individual
and
they
have
to
serve
them
with
the
rule
to
show
cause
telling
them
here's
your
next
court
date
and
then,
if
he
doesn't
show
up
to
that
one,
we
can
issue
a
warrant
that
is
extremely
dangerous.
You've
now
taken.
J
Secondly,
if
someone
doesn't
show
up
to
court
and
they
leave
the
jurisdiction-
and
let's
say
they
go
into
indiana-
where
they
hide
out
there
or
they
just
vacation
there
forever,
how
will
we
ever
get
them
that
letter
a
warrant
is
in
a
nationwide
database.
So
when
a
law
enforcement
officer
encounters
that
person
they
they
know
that
individual
has
a
warrant,
they
hold
them.
The
sheriff's
office
goes
and
picks
them
up.
J
They're,
not
indiana
officers,
not
going
to
know
anything
about
a
rule
to
show
cause
letter
they're
not
going
to
have
that
with
them
to
serve
him
with
his
next
court
date.
So
if
someone
were
to
leave
the
state
of
illinois,
how
will
we
ever
get
them
back?
Do
you
think
your
kankakee
or
your
bradley
or
your
grant
park
police
officers
are
going
to
go
into
ohio,
california,
minnesota
places
where
the
sheriff's
office
goes
and
regularly
picks
people
up?
J
So
that's
something
that
I
don't
think
the
bill
really
took
into
consideration
in
any
respect
and
it
could
result
in
someone
walking
away
from
a
serious
criminal
case
and
never
having
to
face
justice
and
reduce
of
periods
of
post-release
supervision.
When
someone
commits
some
of
our
most
violent
crimes,
armed
violence,
sexual
assaults-
I
mean
just
anything-
you
can
think
of
some
of
the
most
serious
class
x
felonies.
J
So
the
idea-
you
know
we
all
know
about
recidivism
rates,
and
we
know
that
many
offenders
within
the
gauge
debt
over
three
years
and
they
say
that
the
recidivism
rates
are
pretty
significant.
That's
where
people
commit
another
crime
and
end
up
back
in
custody,
so
you'd
love
to
have
them
under
supervision
for
the
period
of
time
when
they're
most
likely
to
commit
another
crime.
But
this
bill
reduces
that
period
in
half
and
ability
to
protect
witnesses
and
victims.
You
can
all
imagine
for
yourselves.
J
K
J
Statute
lays
out
what
its
intent
was
in
some
of
the
preamble
portions,
and
basically
it
speaks
to
the
fact
that
the
cash
bail
system
is
an
unfair
system.
So
if
you
and
I
get
arrested
for
the
same
offense
and
we
both
have
the
same
criminal
background
under
the
current
system,
it
is
possible
that
if
you
have
resources-
and
I
don't
and
you're
able
to
post
bond
you're
out
and
I'm
sitting
because
I'm
poor,
I
would
agree
that
that
is
an
unfair
outcome.
J
Everyone
understands
that
the
system
needs
to
be
reformed.
We
work
locally
here
with
the
sheriff
regularly
my
office
and
his
department
to
make
sure
that
those
inequities
don't
happen.
The
system
does
need
to
be
reformed.
This
reform
is
not
the
type
of
reform
that
still
keeps
people
safe.
Why
did
we
have
to
allow
kidnappers
to
walk
out
of
jail
in
order
to
reform
cash
bail?
That's
just
simply.
Why
are
those
two
things
even
connected?
H
Mr
chairman,
thank
you
very
much.
States
attorney
row
excellent
presentation,
but
I
think
this
would
probably
be
also
good
for
an
in-service
for
us
as
legislators,
because
a
lot
of
folks
in
our
in
our
communities
need
to
know
what
house
bill.
3653
is
all
about
some
of
the
vicissitudes,
the
problems,
ramifications,
etc,
and
it's
it's
always
good.
You
know
to
meet
with
the
county
board
chairman
discussing
various
things
and
so
forth,
but
this
thing
is
is
catastrophic
in
terms
of
1123.
H
and
I
always
maintain
that
there
should
have
been
maybe
a
pilot
project
just
for
cook
county
as
opposed
to
102
counties.
But
you
know
I
I
just
you
know,
pray
to
god
that
you
know
senator
joyce
as
well
as
other
individuals.
The
the
chief
judges
that
tom
chief
judge
clinton
was
talking
about
can
come
up
with
something
for
recommendations
to
to
ameliorate
this
particular
catastrophic
bill
because
of
the
negative
ramifications
it
has
in
all
communities,
not
just
cook
county.
H
H
H
I
don't
know
what
kind
of
equipment
it
is,
but
it's
a
big
screen
and
they
show
movies.
You
know
in
the
communities
we
blocked
off
streets
in
in
marycrest
and
we
invited
people
from
the
east
side
to
come
and
we
provided
refreshments
and
and
so
forth.
Information
regarding
home
rule
violence,
prevention
from
duane
dean
with
gloria
kennedy,
alderman
o'brien,
came
and
spoke
about.
The
ramifications
of
you
know
the
things
that
may
happen.
H
If,
if
we
don't
get
the
what
was
I'm
thinking
of
the
problems
about
us,
not
having
25
000
residents
in
the
city
home
rule.
Excuse
me,
but
I'd
encourage
you
guys
not
to
inundate
the
state's
attorney's
office,
but
it's
a
really
good
program
and
they
provide
you,
know
popcorn.
We
provided
refreshments
and
so
forth
and
a
lot
of
other
things
too.
But
it's
it's
really
a
positive
program
that
brings
the
community
together
and
you
receive
a
lot
of
information
about
crime
and
other
community
information.
J
Yeah
we're
starting
to
do
our
senior
fairs.
Now
the
movie
night's
starting
to
get
a
little
cooler
out
and
kids
are
back
to
school,
so
our
senior
fairs
are
starting
up
we're
trying
to
do
one
in
every
county
board
district.
So
if
you're
interested
in
partnering
just
reach
out
to
me,
we
can
figure
out
a
date
together.
F
Thank
you
if
it's
possible
I'd
like
to
receive
a
copy
of
the
presentation,
because
I
think
it
needs
to
be
shared
because
of
the
a
lot
of
individuals
don't
have
any
type
of
concrete
information.
So
I
want
to
believe
that
if
you
don't
have
correct
information,
you'll
use
your
imagination
to
disseminate
misinformation,
either
way
on
either
side
of
the
coin.
But
I
think
this,
the
presentation
will
definitely
serve
to
set
not
so
much
at
ease,
but
at
least
some
of
the
tension
that
people
are
having
with
this.
F
J
F
L
Thank
you
for
that
presentation,
and
I
was
wondering
if
we
could
take
the
portion
of
this
meeting
where
you
explained
that
and
put
it
on
facebook.
I
know
the
sheriff
puts
a
lot
of
information
out
and
I
like
to
share
it
because
it
does
make
a
difference,
he's
picking
up
criminals
because
of
what
he's
putting
on
facebook,
but
I
think
that's
a
good
way
to
disseminate
that
information
out
to
the
public.
L
J
You
know
the
challenge
with
that.
Is
that
once
you
do
that,
once
the
sheriff
or
anyone
speaks
out
about
this,
you
know
those
who
are
peddling
the
misinformation
about
this
bill
that
you
know,
then,
all
of
a
sudden
we're
labeled
as
fear,
mongers
and
and
other
things
read
the
bill.
You
know
if,
before
someone,
I'm
not
saying
that
to
you,
but
I'm
saying
before
before
someone
wants
to
throw
those
words
around
before
you.
You
know.
Don't
just
trust
me
then
don't
just
trust.
J
A
A
C
H
E
So
doing
budgets
is
really
just
like
throwing
a
dart
at
a
dartboard
with
the
safety
act,
anybody
associated
with
jail
operations-
and
you
know
it's
it's
just
no.
We
don't
know
what
the
impact
is.
We
think
we
do.
What
do
you
think?
It's
gonna
the?
What
do
you
say
the
revolving
door?
What's
that
gonna
do
to
your
office?
Are
your
pendings
gonna
go
through
the
roof,
because
people
aren't
showing
up.
C
I
think
the
caseload
is
going
to
go
up
substantially,
I'm
just
being
a
realist.
Even
after
the
category
and
calgary
situations
arose.
You
know
there
were
people
in
court
with
five
felonies
pending
six
felonies
pending,
because
retail
thieves
and
things
of
people
charged
with
those
offenses
are
getting
released
and
recidivating.
They
simply
are
so.
E
C
There's
provision
in
the
safety
act
for
recidivism,
so
the
state
the
the
person
could
be
detained,
but
currently
we're
not
detaining
retail
thieves
as
a
rule
and
we
being
the
court
system
not
not
me
or
a
particular
person.
So
you
know
my
opinion.
This
is
just
I'm
just
brainstorming
here,
but
they
kind
of
turn
the
safety
act
on
his
head
that
somebody
with
two
retail
tests
in
jail
and
someone
on
aggravated
discharge
is
out
on
the
street.
C
So
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
going
to
happen
so
to
answer
your
question
either
the
reality
is
going
to
be
that
they're
going
to
recidivate
or
think
they
are
or
the
perception
will
definitely
be
that
I
can
go
out
and
do
it
again
and
there
will
be
no
ramifications.
Absolutely
I'm
just
being
a
realist
here,
but.
C
Is
they
won't
understand?
People
will
not
understand
the
process
until
it
goes
through
a
few
times,
so
it's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
of
time
before
people
go
wait
a
second.
What
does
this
mean?
There's
even
less
restrictions
that
I
had
on
me
before.
You
know
before
january
1st,
so
it's
going
to
be
very
problematic.
Yes
and
again,
you
know.
A
M
A
M
Pre-Trial
update
as
I've
been
reporting
to
everyone
over
every
committee
about
the
about
our
pre-trial
situation
with
the
state
taking
it
over.
If
you
remember,
there's
two
the
pre-trial
reforms
separate
from
the
safety
act,
but
they
both
kind
of
collide
with
no
cash
bail.
In
january
since
august
of
last
year,
the
state
had
a
plan
out
to
take
over
pre-trial
supervision,
which
I've
talked
about.
It's
made
my
hiring
more
difficult
because
I
have
temporary
funding
and
all
that
last
month
they
switched
gears.
M
They
changed
directions
and
said
that
the
counties
that
have
established
pre-trial
service
programs
like
us,
can
keep
it
and
we'll
keep
it
now.
That's
good!
I
think
it's
the
better
way
to
go.
However,
for
14
months
we've
sat
here,
I
don't
want
to
sit
in
our
hands,
but
we
didn't
put
a
lot
of
planning
and
time
into
pretrial
because
they
were
taking
it
from
us.
M
M
So
that's
that's
where
we're
at
with
that,
and
here
we
are
what
september
and
it's
it's.
It's
frustrating
and
aoic
there's
a
lot
of
good
people
there,
but
they
kind
of
work
things
into
a
conversation
as
if
it
was
always
talked
about,
and
this
was
one
of
them,
and
so
I
called
them-
and
I
said
this-
is
this:
wasn't
what
we
were
talking
about
for
a
while?
They
said
no,
but
it's
gonna.
I
just
got
an
email
yesterday
confirming
it
that
we'll
keep
it
well.
I
I
M
E
M
Anything
nothing
though
they've
hired
a
met,
the
person
they've
hired
a
person
that
sounds
efficient.
So
sorry
it's
just
it's.
I
think
it
should
be
a
circuit.
It's
you
know
it's
a
consistent
within
the
circuit,
but
I
guess
we'll
see
how
it
plays
out
how
fast
pre-trial
numbers
will
grow.
I
think
it'd
be
quick
in
2023,
but
we'll
see
we
can
we
can
do
I
just
did
you
know
we.
M
We
would
have
had
well
august
of
last
years,
when
announced
the
reform
to
pre-trial
that
the
state
was
changing
the
structure
and
they
were
going
to
take
over
and
so
since
then,
we've
you
know
really
just
said:
what
can
we
do
to
keep
it
afloat?
Do
what
we
got
to
do,
then
it
was
going
to
be
january,
23
january
24
january
25.
They
kept
changing
when
they're
going
to
take
it
over,
but
now
it's
it's
not
going
anywhere.
So
I
will
again
keep
you
posted
on
what
what
we
do.
M
And
real
quick,
mr
snipes,
on
that
st
vincent,
when
they
come
in
our
office
and
get
put
on
or
signed
up
for
public
service
work,
we
get,
we
get
their
cell
phone
information
anyway,
we
send
out
a
blast
to
all
everybody
on
that.
Has
public
service
work
whenever
there's
work
opportunities,
so
we
can.
If
they
need
people,
we
can
get
a
blast
out
to
everybody.
That's
signed
up
right
now
on
our
in
our
system,
and
so
they
get
it
right
away
and
say
no
to
contact
them
and
they
have
hours
for
you.
M
M
E
Mr
wheeler
juvenile
detention,
so
the
the
deal
we
did
with
will
county
is
just
about
over.
I
believe
yeah.
We
have
our
kitty
at
money
because
we
we
extracted
about
seven
million
out
of
that
facility
that
we
had
paid
for,
and
so
we're
gonna
have
to
start
paying
again
we're
talking
about
what
we're
doing
so
that
it
worked.
But
is
there
anything
in
the
safety
act
about
juveniles
in
detention
and
nothing
has
changed
there?
Nothing.
M
E
M
M
Our
detection
days
were
down
this
year
and
it
went
a
lot
farther
into
the
fiscal
year,
which
is
good
news,
because
I
would
thought
it
had
been
the
first
at
the
end
of
the
first
quarter
of
the
year,
and
now
we
just
have
the
final
quarter
of
the
year
to
to
pay
for
so
that
helps
but
the
day
the
detention
days
are
falling
every
year,
but
we,
you
know
so
we'll
work
on
a
budget,
how
to
figure
that
out
right.
Okay,.
M
E
M
But
not
the
weekends
it's
40
to
40
hours,
but
not
including
weekends,
and
not
including
yes,
so
they
would
get
restaurant
friday
or
come
back
monday
at
1,
30.,
okay,
yeah,
all
right
all
right
and
if
the
wednesday,
before
thanksgiving
you're
coming
back
monday
at
1,
30.,
okay.
So
that's
where
there's
a
little
bit
of
you
know.
A
G
F
Well
know
our
millennials
and
genera,
those
that
oppose
generation
x
are
into
this
social
media,
pretty
heavy
and
most
of
the
fights
and
things
that
occur,
looks
like
it's
coming
from
social
media
and
then
the
kids
carrying
guns
and
the
adults
that
are
in
the
criminal
aspect
use
the
youth
because
they
say
they
get
less
time
do.
If
you
had
to
forecast.
F
Do
you
see
an
uprising
of
that
activity
of
youth
being
detained
or
are
they
segregated
into
just
home
monitoring
versus
actual
jail?
I
mean
being
incarcerated
somewhere
with
the
social
media
and
fights
I
all
that
yeah,
the
shootings
and
the
whole
nine
yards
through
the
social
media.
I
know
we
go
through
them
to
get
what
they
say
evidence
because
they
tend
to
talk
to
each
other,
so
you
can
extrapolate
it.
M
Well,
I
hope
I
I
think
I
can
answer
your
question.
You
know
anytime,
we
have
that
which
we're
all
over
social
media
watching
and
looking
at
things
and
any
information
we
have
that's
related
to
a
juvenile,
that's
being
detained
or
charged.
You
know,
obviously,
that
information
is
forwarded
to
the
state's
attorney's
office
and,
seeing
you
know,
let
them
evaluate
it
and
see
what
they
can
do
with
it.
What
they
put
on
social
media
is
shocking.
M
M
M
You
know
to
keep
them
off
social
media
right.
I
see
we've.
We
do
a
lot
of
that
with
sex
offenders
and
stuff
and
really
track
what
they're
doing
it's
very
difficult
with
you
know
different
accounts
and
different
things
like
that.
We
do
try
a
lot.
You
know
we
do,
but
it's
very,
very
difficult,
especially
you're
talking
to
me,
I'm
not
very
I'm
not
very
savvy
in
social
media
and
everything.
M
A
I
N
N
N
N
N
We
are
already
at
316.,
so
that
number
will
increase
significantly
from
last
year
to
this
year,
where
that
comes
into
play
is
as
we
move
forward,
they're
going
to
get
less
and
less
supervision
following
their
release
from
prison,
which
could
be
problematic.
Obviously,
the
hope
is
that
when
they
return,
they
don't
reoffend,
but
the
reality
is
as
as
jim
mentioned.
Unfortunately,
there
is
significant
recidivism,
so
we'll
continue
to
monitor
that
a
couple
things
regarding
our
staff.
We
continue
to
recruit
correctional
officers,
our
numbers
as
as
they
as
we
were
getting
out
of
2021.
N
Knowing
that
we
were
not
going
to
house
for
ice,
we
did
not
replace
officers
who
were
leaving
to
get
our
number
down
to
an
equitable
number
from
the
standpoint
of
the
number
of
inmates
we
assumed
we
would
have,
and
then
champaign
county
happened,
and
so
our
numbers
have
actually
increased
a
little
bit,
and
so
we
are,
we
have
been
recruiting
corrections
every
day
we
are
out
and
about
looking
for
individuals
interested
in
the
corrections
field.
We've
dealt
we've
we
deal
with
both
colleges
in
town,
the
career
center
at
the
high
school.
N
Obviously,
some
of
those
aren't
old
enough,
but
at
least
we
start
them
on
the
path
to
consider
they.
The
corrections
administration
has
done
a
great
job
in
getting
individuals.
Here,
however,
we
are
still
short,
which
obviously
results
in
some
significant
overtime.
This
issue
isn't
an
issue
in
kangaki
county
alone.
It's
not
an
issue
in
the
state
alone.
This
is
an
issue
nationwide,
so
it
is
something
that
we're
fully
aware
of
and
that
we
continue
to
look
for
qualified
candidates
to
work
in
our
jail.
N
N
N
A
N
N
H
N
H
H
N
Pay
and
it's
you
know
I,
I
suppose,
from
a
municipality
standpoint,
they're
looking
at
maybe
a
pay
as
you
go
as
opposed
to
one
lump
sum.
I
don't
know,
but
I
know
that
we
I
mean
I'm
with
the
mayor
every
monday
at
our
chiefs
meeting,
and
so
we
bring
it
up
every
periodically,
but
right
now,
no
movement
on
it.
So,
but
I
will
reiterate
that
to
not
only
the
city
but
to
a
couple,
others
that
have
shown
interest
as
well.
Thank
you.
N
N
N
E
Wheeler
to
that
point
you
said
something
at
the
economic
alliance
meeting.
I
thought
it
was
really
important.
It
was
the
parallel
between
new
jersey
and
what
san
francisco
did
in
the
recall
and
in
the
positioning
of
our
law
on
which
is
it
closer
to
jersey,
or
is
it
closer
to
san
francisco
or
is
it
beyond
so.
N
N
So
yeah
it's
it's
way
beyond
san
francisco
and
it's
just
a
you
know,
and
I
I
could
stand
up
here
and
preach
all
day,
long
about
officer
safety,
officer,
safety
officer
safety.
This
is
community
safety.
This
is
public
safety,
safety
for
everybody
in
this
room
and
everybody
listening
at
home
and
every
resident
of
the
state
of
illinois.
N
O
O
O
O
O
N
Yeah
one
last
thing
positive
note:
well,
it
was
positive
for
one
side
on
august
28th
the
sheriff's
office
participated
in
pembroke
days,
and
that's
why
I
said
it
was.
It
was
a
happy
time
for
one
side.
It
was
a
great
day
we
had
a
great
time
and
the
sheriff's
office
did
lose
15
to
14
on
a
walk-off
hit.
N
P
N
We
will
we'll
be
there,
okay,
and
I
can
tell
you
just
before
the
record
that
mayor
hodge
can
run
yeah,
he
can
run.
I
saw
him
leg
out,
an
infield
single
and
I'm
like.
Who
is
that
I
thought
it
was
like
some
25
year
old.
It
was
mayor,
hodge,
so
good
for
him.
We
had
a
great
time
and-
and
we
really
enjoyed
it-
and
you
know
there
were
no
losers.
Let's
put
it
that
way.
Yeah.
A
Q
Good
morning,
everybody
so
good
news.
Our
calls
in
the
month
of
august,
at
the
lowest
point
they've
been
all
year.
Looking
at
the
data
year.
Long,
this
entire
fiscal
year
were
eight.
I'm
sorry,
nine
calls
down
year
to
date
from
where
we
were.
Last
year,
our
busiest
year,
we've
ever
had
we're
sitting
at
82
autopsies
this
fiscal
year,
which
is
again
spot
on
with
where
we
were
in
fiscal
year.
Q
21
at
this
point
and
hate
to
say
it,
but
our
homicides
are
actually
down
four
from
fiscal
year
21
also,
so
that's
that's
a
positive,
but
there
are
some
negatives.
Obviously,
overdoses
continue
to
trend
upwards,
we're
at
31
overdoses
with
three
additional
pending
cases,
so
we
will
be
at
34..
Last
year
we
were
at
43..
There
are
76
days
left
in
the
fiscal
year,
so
I'm
sure,
unfortunately,
that
we'll
probably
add
to
that
total.
Q
A
Q
Obviously,
all
of
our
statistics
were
listed
in
there
and
also
a
lot
of
resources,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
resources
locally
in
addition
to
the
new
988
that
anybody
can
call
on
their
phone
and
be
connected
with
a
counselor
right
away.
It's
another
great
tool
in
our
toolbox
for
those
people
who
are
struggling
with
mental
health
issues.
Q
Not
only
we've
seen
it
here,
but
across
the
state
and
across
the
country,
and
so
some
of
the
experts
are
saying
that
it's
likely
being
added
to
fentanyl
to
extend
the
high
that
a
person
would
get
when
using
an
opioid
like
fentanyl.
In
addition
to
that,
it's
relatively
inexpensive
and
it's
easy
to
obtain,
so
the
dealers
can
access
it
relatively
easily
and
then
mix
it
in
with
the
fentanyl
or
other
drugs.
Q
There
have
been
some
studies
conducted
and
the
studies,
the
results
of
the
studies
has
been
that
xylazine
is
not
actually
killing
the
person,
but
it
is
contributing
to
the
death
of
the
person
as
a
sedative
xylazine
will
slow,
the
breathing
rate
decrease
blood
pressure,
which
compounds
the
effects
of
fentanyl
or
other
opioids,
which
are
doing
the
same
thing.
So
unfortunately,
something
will
continue
to
watch,
but
just
very
interesting
that
in
july
that
alert
was
issued
and
then
boom
the
last
week
of
july.
First
week
of
august,
we
get
two
cases
positive
for
that
drug.
Q
I
Q
So
that
is
definitely
something
that
we
will
have
to
talk
about
when
we
start
to
do
budgets
for
fy23,
certainly
this
year
we're
going
to
be
over.
We
know
that
in
that
area,
the
good
news
is
we're
we're
on
target
with
every
other
area
of
the
budget,
except
for
that
one
wild
card-
and
I
know
that
we've
all
talked
about
that
and
trust
me
if
we
could
predict
it,
none
of
us
would
be
sitting
here,
we'd
be
in
vegas
winning
millions.
A
Q
Q
Well,
another
only
other
thing
to
report
is
that
our
vehicle
we
talked
about,
I
think
in
may
or
june.
We
had
ordered
finally
got
all
the
equipment
for
so
it's
been
completed
thanks
to
the
sheriff's
department
for
helping
equip
that
and
then
we
have
transferred
our
vehicle
that
it
was
replaced
by
to
the
sheriff's
department.
They
have
that
in
operation
now.