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Criminal Justice Committee Meeting 10/12/2022 7:30am
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A
B
A
I
have
not
received
anything
for
public
comment.
Is
there
anything
for
public
comment
now
anything
for
public
comment,
moving
on
the
approval
of
the
minutes
from
September
14,
2022,
Miss
Peters
second,
by
Mr,
Hunter,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
oppose
same
sign,
motion
carriage
or
carries
up
next
chief
judge,
Mr
cunnington.
C
Good
morning,
just
a
couple
things
to
report
on
this
morning,
an
update
on
the
associate
judge
act
that,
if
you're
just
to
repeat
maybe
what
I've
said
before
but
were
our
circuit.
Our
county
is
due
to
lose
an
associate
judge
because
of
the
drop
in
the
census.
There
was
legislation
passed
in
the
Senate
to
basically
undo
that
change,
because
there's
a
feeling
and
some
statistical
data
that
maybe
the
census
wasn't
real
valid
because
the
covet
wasn't
not.
Everyone
was
counted
that
that
should
have
been
counted.
C
So
there
is
legislation
that
has
passed
the
Senate.
It's
somewhat
stalled
in
the
house
right
now.
The
latest
that
that
we've
received
from
the
conference
of
Chief
Judges
is
that
the
the
legislation
is
not
going
to
come
up
in
the
veto
session,
which
starts
November
15th
after
the
election
and,
if
there's
any
any
hope
to
have
it
passed,
it'll
be
in
the
spring
session.
So
how
that
affects
Kankakee
the
next
associate
to
to
retire
from
office
or
to
leave
office
will
not
be
filled.
The
associate
judges
are
filled
by
appointment
of
the
circuit
judges.
C
C
The
winner
of
that,
if
it's
judge
sliwinski,
wins
that
election,
then
we
will
not
be
able
to
fill
his
associate
position
and
will
be
down
one
judge.
The
only
good
news
is.
We
will
have
the
same
number
of
courtrooms
that
we
have
for
judges
right
right
now
we
have
been
down
down
a
courtroom,
but,
and
then,
if
Kenneth
Wright
wins
the
election,
then
judge
Lewinsky
will
retain
his
his
associate
position.
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
just
mention
is
the
conference.
The
Chief
Judges
has
been
working
on
the
the
safety
act.
C
There's
been
meetings
every
two
weeks,
taking
a
different
topic
and
dealing
with
it.
There
is
a
a
legislation.
That's
been
proposed
by
Senator
Bennett
in
Champaign,
that
is
getting
bipartisan
support
to
make
some
corrections
to
the
to
the
safety
act
and
pritzka.
You've
probably
read
in
the
newspapers
that
Governor
pritzker
has
indicated
some
willingness
to
take
a
look
at
those
I.
Don't
want
to
comment
anymore
on
the
safety
act
we
do
have
pending
pending
litigation
at
the
courthouse
right
now.
So
I
can't
really
talk
about
that,
but
that's
all
I
wanted
to
report
today.
C
I
think
you'll
hear
some
more
about
these
topics,
but-
and
maybe
chairman
wheeler
can
talk
about
the
the
basement.
I
think
that's
on
your
agenda.
Yes,
yeah.
Okay,.
A
D
I,
don't
have
any
everything
is
business
as
usual.
If
anybody
has
any
questions.
A
D
Oh
we've
been
very
busy
finishing
up
getting
the
files
to
the
microfilm
company
and
to
the
shredder.
We
have
one
more
pickup,
probably
of
the
microfilming
and
we'll
probably
have
one
more
date
with
the
shredder
company
as
well
Monday
we
worked
and
we
delivered
160
what
they
call
Tips
of
shredding,
which
was
kind
of
like
the
size
of
the
garbage
cans
that
you
put
out
every
week
about
five
or
six
women
hauled
them
all
the
way
out
of
the
basement
up
the
ramp
and
to
the
to
the
shredding
trucks.
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So
we
worked
really
hard.
We
filled
two
trucks
and
it
was
a
lot
of
work,
but
we
are
happy
that
we're
so
close.
May
I
borrow
this
for
a
minute
because
I
didn't
get
that
copy.
D
So
we
we
are
planning
we're
working,
I'm
working
with
chairman
wheeler
and
Wes,
and
we're
gonna
move
my
exhibits
and
those
old
books
that
I
have
I'm
gonna
just
go
ahead
and
move
those
to
the
treasures
building
for
now
and
because
there's
a
lot
of
other
fine
points
that
we
need
to
go
through
with
some
other
stuff.
So
it'll
just
be
helpful.
D
If
I
put
it
all
over
there
and
then
we
can
work
through
it
as
we
have
time
in
your
packets,
you
have
the
compilation
of
all
of
the
shelving
units
that
we
have
down
in
the
basement
that
we
are
ready
to
get
rid
of
and
Andy.
If
you
can
talk
a
little
more
about
how
we're
going
to
go
about
that.
F
Love
it.
Thank
you.
There's
a
couple
of
moving
pieces
still
with
this
we're
looking
at
doing
and
we
we're
most
likely
99
chance
sure
we're
going
to
do
an
event
on
Saturday
I
believe
that
that's
the
22nd
I,
don't
know.
I,
don't
have
a
calendar
here,
something.
F
Saturday,
the
22nd,
where
we're
going
to
make
we're
gonna,
do
a
head.
Nice
head,
nod
Surplus
here,
because
we
didn't
have
this
list
for
the
agenda,
but
we'll
make
these
all
these
items
Surplus
and
then
we,
instead
of
just
throwing
them
away
or
sending
them
to
the
recycler,
we're
going
to
let
the
public
come
in
and
if
they
want
a
filing
cabinet,
they
can
grab
a
filing
cabinet.
If
they
want.
You
know
any
of
the
metal
shelves
that
that
are
left
they'll,
be
they
can
grab
a
metal
shelf.
F
The
wood
shelves
were
being
demoed
by
the
contractor
because
they're
they
were
made
in
place
and
then
nailed
together
in
the
basement.
So
if
I
think
my
own
opinion
for
our
you
know
people
to
go
down
there
and
try
to
separate
those.
It's
a
liability
issue
for
us
and
plus
it'll.
Take
they're
gonna
have
to
be
broken
down
anyway,
because
get
them
in
the
dumpster.
You
wouldn't
want
to
have
all
this
extra
space
taken
up
by
shelves
that
are
still
so
they
will
be
demoed
in
place.
F
So
we
want
to
give
away
as
much
as
we
can
and
we're
working
on
that
the
taxpayers
paid
for
it.
They
can
come
pick
it
up.
You
know,
but
not
many
people
use
filing
cabinets
anymore.
So
the
last
piece
is
to
talk
to
the
recycler
about
getting
a
dumpster
there
on
site
or
something
to
get
it
over
to
the
recycling
for
the
metal.
Once
we
know
that,
then
they
could
be
there
and
we
have
that
process
nailed
down
and
we'll
do
announcements
over
Facebook
and
things
like
that.
F
So
you
know
things
like
the
metal
desks
and
we're
going
to
Surplus
all
of
the
current
jury
assembly
chairs.
If
somebody
wants
to
come
and
pick
up,
one
of
those
super
comfortable
chairs,
wow
I
think
they
probably
come
and
destroy
them
if
you've
ever
served
on
a
jury
because
they're
that
uncomfortable.
F
But
you
know
that
it's
that
kind
of
stuff
that
we're
planning
we're
going
to
demo
Everything
at
Once
in
the
basement.
So
we
can't
have
stuff
just
laying
around
right.
You
know
so
there's
there's
it's
pretty
much.
The
process
for
right
now
and
I
think
we're
set
for
the
seventh
will
be
the
day
that
that
work
starts
of
November
in
the
basement
over
there.
F
Be
noon
on
that
on
that
Saturday
we're
going
to
bring
them
up
up
out
of
there.
We're
gonna
go
to
the
farmer's
market,
I
think
and
have
like
a
booth
there
telling
people
maybe
take
some
pictures
and
show
them
what's
there,
but
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
manpower
to
be
carrying
stuff
around
loading
people's
trucks.
You
know
that
kind
of
stuff,
so
we
gotta
come
up
with
the
rules,
but
it's
just
basic
filing
cabinets.
F
That's
really
all
that's
left
in
some
metal
shelves
and
there's
not
that
many
of
those
either
we're
saving
some
metal
shelves
for
these
really
thick
tone
books.
They
used
to
use
I,
don't
know
what
they're
called,
but
the
chief
judge
said.
One
said
feet
will
mind
us
feeble-mindedness
on,
and
the
chief
judge
gave
it
to
me
and
said:
I
was
in
there
which
I
appreciated,
but
it's
just
the
way
they
used
to
keep
those
records
back
from
1999..
F
A
F
A
D
D
The
case
management
software
update
we've
spent
two
full
days
watching
two
different
vendors
presentations.
We
were
very
impressed
by
all
of
the
above.
We
can't
wait
so
now.
The
next
step
is
going.
Excuse
me
going
to
be
we're,
we're
still
picking
like
what
parts
we
need
from
that
or
what
we
would
like
to
have
and
then
getting
down
to
I
guess
submitting
to
the
person
which
one
we
want.
Is
that
how
it
goes
and
because
this
part
I
didn't
participate
in
last
time.
So
I'm
not
the.
F
100
sure,
basically,
each
group
like
the
clerk's
office,
they
viewed
their
part
of
the
software.
Other
people
sat
in
with
them.
You
know
the
judges
all
viewed
their
their
part
for
both
from
both
of
our
vendors.
They
were
going
to
get
together
kind
of
talk
about
what
their
thoughts
were
and
then
I
would
say.
The
leaders
of
those
groups
were
going
to
get
together
and
and
basically
decide.
F
Well,
who
are
we
going
to
move
forward
with
and
negotiate
a
price
with
based
on
you
know,
does
probation
want
to
use
the
new
system
or
they
like
the
one
they're
currently
using
right
now?
Well,
that's
there's
a
cost
to
that.
So
if
we
don't
have
to
spend
it
that,
so
we
need
to
figure
that
stuff
out
and
once
we
do
I
mean
this
is
going
to
be
a
pretty
quick
process.
F
H
Ahead,
I'd
just
like
to
say
that
both
companies
put
on
a
great
presentation
and
I
feel,
like
I,
learned
a
lot
about
the
process
and
looking
forward
to
something
that
will
help
save
Manpower
hours
and
make
things
happen
a
little
more
quickly
with
less
effort
and
I
think
at
the
end
of
the
process.
This
is
we're
going
to
have
a
great
system.
A
I
As
of
the
recent
grand
jury
returned
24,
true
bills,
we
also
have
a
breakdown
of
the
cases
that
we've
had
up
until
the
yearly
basis.
As
judge
cunnington
mentioned.
There
is
currently
we
currently
there's
current
litigation
about
the
safety
act.
Our
office
was
the
first
in
the
state
to
file
a
lawsuit
trying
to
find
the
ACT
unconstitutional,
currently
I
believe
it's
up.
As
of
yesterday,
I
think
there
were
up
51
counties.
I
51
states
attorneys
in
the
state
have
filed
similar
lawsuits
to
challenge
that
act
and
there's
a
lot
of
working
together
with
the
the
other
offices
to
go
forward
this
and
hopefully
on
an
expedited
schedule.
Other
than
that
I
answer
any
questions
any.
J
I
know
the
cost
involved,
but
my
question
is
with
the
trailer
bills
and
many
other
members
are
supposed
to
be
happening
before
the
January
first
date.
I
Our
position
is
that
you
can't
fix
an
unconstitutional
Act
that
the
we
have
alleged
that
for
a
variety
of
reasons,
that
the
bills
is
unconstitutional
for
five
or
six
different
reasons,
we'll
see
how
that
plays
out
in
court.
Obviously,
that's
that's
something
that
we
don't
know
how
that's
going
to
go,
but
if
the
trip
the
State's
Attorneys
in
the
state
are
cooperating
on
both
you
know
on
both
areas
and
and
that
the
trailer
bills
go
through
great.
I
J
So
I'm,
assuming
that
the
51
is
more
going
south
than
north
of
102
counties,
that's
about
half,
so
the
concern
I
would
have
is
certainly
the
safety
bill
needs
some
work
done,
but
there
was
some
good
things
that
happened
in
it
and
I.
Don't
we're
not
throwing
the
baby
out
with
the
bad
water
when
I'm
saying
the
like
the
body,
cams
and
things
of
nature,
the
those
bills
are
we
looking
at
trash?
All
of
it
tell
them
to
start
all
over
again,
while
we're
attacking
certain
issues,
that's
non-constitutional,
we're.
I
Attacking
the
whole
bill
that
the
bill
the
bill
was
unconstitutional,
the
way
it
was
passed.
I
Nobody
argues
that
that
there
was
not
a
lot
of
needed
changes
that
took
place
in
in
that
in
that
bill
problem
is
that
if,
if
it's,
if
it's
unconstitutional
it's
unconstitutional
I
mean
we,
we
are
sworn
to
uphold
the
law
and
if
we
believe
that
laws
are
unconstitutional,
we
have
to
go
we're
going
against
that.
I
But
the
way
we
view
it
this
is,
you
know
this
isn't
political.
This
is
pure
and
simple.
This
is
a
public
safety
issue
and
that's
the
in
in
the
group
that
has
filed
lawsuits,
we've
got
a
pretty
even
mix
of
of
Democrats
and
Republicans,
so
this
is
this
is
by
both
parties,
State's
Attorney's
Office
throughout
the
state
that
believe
that
this
is
unconstitutional.
Okay,.
J
I
The
Illinois
Attorney
General
is
on
the
other
side,
so
so
they
are
our
opponents.
Okay
and
General.
Raul
is
also
one
of
the
name
defendants
in
his
official
capacity.
J
A
You
any
other
questions.
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
opposed
same
sign
motion
carries
thank
you.
Thanks
Jeff
up
next
Mr
penowick
from
the
public
defender's
office
and
the
package,
you
have
a
copy
of
the
monthly
report.
Take
a
motion
to
approve
Miss
Peters.
Second,
by
Mr
long
good
morning,
comments
on
your
report,
sir
good
morning.
Everyone
I
have
no
comments,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have
any
questions.
A
A
E
A
E
E
Good
news,
though,
is
we
did
fill
two
of
the
three
vacancies
we've
had
that
I've
been
talking
about
every
time,
I'm
here
for
a
long
time,
so
that's
good
news
I'm
only
down
one
right
now,
so
we'll
keep
trying
see
how
it
happens,
but
they
should
start
a
week
from
Monday,
so
we'll
be
having
just
one
vacancy
seems,
full
staff
sure.
So
that's
good
news,
Mr
Wheeler.
F
What
what
type
of
impact
do
you
see
to
your
budget
going
forward
with
pre-trial
I
know?
We've
talked
about
all
these
different
scenarios
and
really
I'm
I'm,
not
confused
on
it.
I
just
don't
know
which
model
to
follow.
Are
we
gonna
have
to
hire
a
bunch
of
people
for
pre-char?
Well,.
E
We're
putting
the
numbers
together
right
now
to
see
if
we
have
four,
we
have
five
positions
right
now
for
pre-trial
they're,
just
funded
by
the
state
for
pre-trial
I
would
guesstimate
now
a
few
more,
but
then
we'll
fine-tune
those
numbers,
the
the
stats
and
see
what
we
need,
but
you're
talking
a
shift
of
maybe
seven
or
eight
people
that
we
didn't.
You
know
we
thought
we're
going
to
lose
the
five.
You
know
that
was
going
to
go
away
and
then
now
it
could
be.
We
gain
a
few
more
I.
E
The
few
positions,
I,
don't
think,
would
be
available
until
July
and
their
budget
there's
there's
a
way
we
could
get
a
few
positions
possibly
before
then,
but
I,
don't
think
it'll
be
until
July
until
they
get
their
budget.
E
But
it
is
that's
the
swing
we
thought
we're
gonna
lose
five
and
now
we're
you
know.
Looking
at
seven.
F
Is
with
their
granting
80
grand
Aid
positions,
all
of
them
be
grenade,
so
it's
they
would
have
no
ten
percent
Plus
benefits
and
pension
or
more
local.
It's
100
for.
E
E
I
know,
but
that's
a
lot
about
the
media,
we're
going
to
talk
about
our
meeting
today.
It's
just
try
to
work.
I
mean
this
was
kind
of
thrown
on
us
and
really
I
keep
saying.
Every
meeting
is
discussed
as
if
this
was
always
the
plan,
but
there's
been
nothing
you
know
sent
to
the
chief
judge
or
me
or
anybody
that
says
you
know
here's
the
change
into
it,
but
we
just
know
that's
happening
so
now
we
start
planning
for
it.
E
A
E
E
21St
yep
the
21st
I
Kelly
I,
sent
that
to
you
late
and
I'm,
sorry
that
I
don't
know
if
you
got
it
out
to
everybody,
but
it
just
went
out
okay,
but
the
the
21st
six
o'clock,
Knights
of
Columbus
I,
sent
Kelly
the
information
with
the
link
to
buy
tickets
for
the
drug
court
auction.
So
first
one
and
what
two
two
years,
two
years
first
in
person
auction
so
should
be
a
good
event.
Good
turnout!
So
any
questions
anybody
can
give
me
a
call.
A
K
K
K
We
didn't
think
that
was
possible.
So
that's
a
positive
I
think
in
early
fiscal
year
2022,
if
you
remember,
we
were
early
down
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
compared
to
last
year.
So
we
have
our
jail
administrator,
has
done
well
in
working
with
the
feds
and
Champaign
County,
and
those
numbers
have
significantly
increased.
K
We
are
anticipating,
based
on
our
numbers,
to
be
up
around
a
half
a
million
dollars
by
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year.
So
that's
a
positive
one
of
the
one
of
the
downsides
of
that
which
is,
which
is
a
downside,
I
think
at
every
jail
right
now
is
Staffing.
Our
staffing
levels
are
down
significantly.
In
fact,
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
jail
inspection
later
on
after
we
get
through
the
agenda,
but
Staffing
obviously
is
a
problem
which
creates
overtime,
so
that
is
what
we're
working
on
at
the
present
time.
K
On
the
sworn
side.
Another
item
that
that
sticks
out
and
and
in
a
good
way
is
that
in
fiscal
year
21
there
were
20
homicides
in
Kankakee
County
through
September,
we're
at
eight
once
too
many.
But
that
is
a
significant
decrease
from
the
year
before
and
we
hope
that
that
Trend
continues.
A
K
Act,
safety
act
all
right,
so
when
Mr
Rowe
failed
to
mention
that
he
was
going
to
present
his
PowerPoint
last
month,
I
told
you
that
I
would
have
mine
this
month
and
I
will
briefly
go
through
it
as
quickly
as
I.
Possibly
can
I
want
to
keep
you
guys
here
any
longer
this.
We
could
talk
about
this
all
day,
so
to
start
so
so
what
is
the
safety
act?
House
Bill
3653
for
those
of
you
that
may
not
remember.
K
K
The
first
one
is
additional
training,
there's
not
a
cop
in
the
world
who
would
would
decline
additional
training
for
the
job
we
do,
and
there
is
additional
training
that
is
mandated
that
larger
departments
probably
won't
have
a
problem
getting
smaller
departments.
On
the
other
hand,
May
struggle
a
little
bit
when
you
talk
about
cost
and
and
I'll
mention
that
in
the
there's,
some
information
in
the
next
slide
about
that
mandated
body,
worn
cameras,
something
that
we
had
talked
about
for
a
long
time.
K
Obviously,
the
issue
was
the
cost
but
mandating
those
cameras
is,
is
key
and
I've
said
to
this
committee
numerous
occasions
that
body,
worn
cameras
will
protect
police
officers,
99.9
percent
of
the
time,
and
they
have
already
for
us.
We've
had
them
since
I
believe
last
June
we
weren't
required
to
have
them
until
January
of
23
based
on
our
County's
population.
However,
we
move
forward
early
and
they
are,
they
have
been
beneficial
for
us
certification
and
the
decertification
process
of
police.
K
So
some
of
the
safety
concerns
of
3653
the
issue
with
the
training
is
there's
no
additional
funding
for
training
a
roundabout
way
to
defund
the
police.
If
you
will,
because
as
you
as
the
County
Board,
provide
us
money
and
that
money
is
going
to
have
to
come
from
somewhere
to
provide
training
for
our
staff.
K
There
was
no
funding
for
body-worn
cameras.
There
have
been
limited
grants
which
we
have
successfully
received
for
the
equipment
only
and
we
are
actually
in
the
process
of
implementing
body,
worn
cameras
in
the
jail
in
addition
to
the
road
and
Senator
Joyce
actually
got
us
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
purchase
those
cameras.
So
that'll
be
beneficial
as
well
in
the
jail
because
we
have
the
same
issues
in
the
jail,
and
so
that
will
be.
K
We
do
have
body
cameras
in
the
jail
now,
but
not
everybody
has
them
so
you're
limited
as
to
what
you
actually
collect
when
you're
looking
at
the
body,
worn
cameras
that
we
have
so
that'll
be
a
big
plus
for
us
major
cost
of
body.
Worn
cameras,
however,
is
the
storage
which
we
have
said
for
years:
the
storage
the
redaction
required
when
we
get
a
foia
and
the
Personnel
to
complete
it.
These
are
all
additional
things
that
will
ultimately
affect
the
Sheriff's
Office
budget.
K
When
you
talk
about
trying
to
have
somebody
get
respond
to
a
foia
and
you
have
to
redact,
you
have
to
find
everything,
and
so
again
these
are
costs
that
are
included
in
this
bill,
which,
which
could
be
detrimental
to
to
a
lot
of
law
enforcement
budgets.
K
K
K
Obviously
the
best
case
scenario
is
the
police
get
called.
We
ask
the
person
leave
and
he
leaves-
and
nothing
happens.
That's
best
case
scenario
so
think
about
this.
You
and
your
spouse
return
home
from
dinner,
find
an
intoxicated,
subject,
barely
closed
sitting
in
your
front
yard,
drinking
a
bottle
of
hard
liquor
after
several
requests
for
him
to
leave.
He
began
swearing
at
you
and
destroying
parts
of
your
yard.
K
K
K
So
cash
bail,
basically
the
bottom
line
and
all
that
that's
written
up
there
as
judges
no
longer
had
discretion
and
I
said
a
long
time
ago
and
I
caught
a
little
Flack
for
it.
But
I
said
you
know:
cashless
bail,
isn't
a
anti-law
enforcement
as
anti-judge
is
taken
away,
the
job
judges
do
and-
and
they
no
longer
have
discretion-
to
set
bail
regardless
of
that
state.
So
judges
no
longer
set
a
cash
bail.
K
Certain
offenses
will
result
in
in
certain
individuals
being
detained,
but
the
state
will
have
to
have
the
burden
of
demonstrating
to
the
court
why
someone
should
be
considered
a
danger
to
society
or
a
Flight
Risk
prior
failure
to
appear
in
court,
and-
and
you
know
we
have
over
6
000
warrants
in
Kankakee
County.
K
So
the
elimination
of
cash
bail
will
only
allow
those
non-violent
offenders
that
are
currently
sitting
in
jail
waiting
trial,
a
chance
to
be
released
similarly
to
those
afforded
the
opportunity
now
simply
because
they
have
the
finances
to
accommodate
their
release.
K
Reality,
Bill
reform
actually
occurred
back
in
January
of
2018..
The
only
legislature
addressed
this
issue
by
passing
legislation
creating
category
a
and
category
B
offenses
category.
B
offenders
are
given
thirty
dollars
per
day
credit
towards
their
bond
needed
to
be
released
from
jail,
so
they
don't
have
to
post
any
money.
K
K
K
As
most
of
you
know,
Jim
and
I
have
worked
Jim
row
and
I
have
worked
for
years
to
prevent
non-violent
offenders
from
being
incarcerated,
while
they
await
their
trial
on
July
28th
I
posted
on
my
social
media
page.
That
clearly
demonstrates
who
we
have
in
custody
and
what
their
charges
are
now.
You've.
Probably
all
seen
people
talk
about
who's
going
to
be
released
from
jail
once
3653,
or
once
the
elimination
of
cash
bail
takes
effect
on
January
1st,
there
will
be
local
inmates
who
will
be
released
due
to
this
legislation.
K
So
who's
committing
most
of
our
serious
crimes
or
all
of
them,
so
we
booked
in
20
over
25
000
people
in
the
last
eight
years,
however,
only
a
total
of
over
11
just
almost
12
000
different
people,
meaning
the
same
people
that
are
out,
are
the
ones
who
are
recommitting
so,
and
it
gives
you
some
idea
that
it's
not
you
know,
we
don't
have
25
000
different
people
out
there.
Committee
crimes
we
have
you
know
eleven
thousand
that
are
that
are
providing
most
of
the
problems
in
in
our
County.
K
So
we've
collected
over
a
million
dollars
in
eight
months
from
people
who
posted
cash,
bail,
foreign.
K
K
K
So
types
of
arrests
made
by
each
agency
are
made,
so
this
is
broken
down
by
agency,
but
the
grand
totals
there
were
647
felony
arrests.
Last
year
there
was
400,
there's
been
450
453.
So
far
this
year,
the
average
length
of
stay
per
arrest
type.
This
is
somewhat
interesting.
K
In
calendar
year,
20
21,
the
average
length
of
stay
was
50
days
for
felonies.
It
was
127
days
for
misdemeanor's
24.1
days
for
traffic
less
than
one
day
and
for
Warren
arrest
25
days.
Those
numbers
are
somewhat
similar
for
22..
Now.
Remember
that
all
of
these
numbers
include
those
that
have
been
those
that
were
here
for
especially
the
traffic,
those
that
were
here
for
three
hours
and
those
that
were
here
for
six
months,
depending
on
what
their
traffic
offense
was.
K
So
we
have
argued
and
and
we've
talked
about
options
and
and
what
what
are
options
to
to
cashless
bail,
New
Jersey
is
probably
the
best
example.
If
you
have
an
opportunity,
I
would
Google
New
Jersey's
bail
laws.
K
K
When
you
talk
about
trying
to
reinvent
the
wheel,
this
is
Reinventing
the
wheel,
it
would
be,
it
would
be
in
the
state's
best
interest
to
look
at
other
options
to
you
know
make
this.
You
know
our
from
from
a
from
a
sheriff's
position.
I
mean
our.
Obviously
we
want
to
keep
our
community
safe,
3653
I
mean
a
number
of
ways
does
not
do
that.
So
I
would
end
with
that
and,
like
I
said,
I
could
talk
about
it
for
another
four
hours,
but
I
know
your
time
is
valuable.
So.
G
You
very
much
Mr
chairman
Sheriff
County.
You
mentioned
that
we
have
where
you
have
six
thousand
pending
bench
warrants,
for
failure
to
appear
essentially
right,
that's
correct,
and
you
indicated
that
as
of
1
123,
that
number
will,
what
number
will
that
escalate
to
or
will
it
go
high
or
what
I
gotta
go
higher?
Don't.
G
That
and
and
I
already
knew
the
answer
there,
because
you
intimated
that
now
I'm
concerned
about
what
impact
that's
going
to
have
on
the
court
system.
K
Yeah
I
mean
that's.
Obviously
there
are
things
that
weren't
thought
through
and
those
are
things
that
you
know.
Obviously
we
hope
at
some
point
get
addressed.
Okay,.
G
I
know
that
you're
involved
in
and
probably
spoken
person
with
the
Illinois
sheriff's
Association
me.
You
know
what
concerns
me
is
that
you
know
the
house
bill,
3653
that
which
you
enter,
which
you
indicated
that
Anonymous
complaints
can
be
filed
and
those
remain
in
a
person's
officer's
file.
Whether
they're,
founded
or
unfounded,
I
I
would
ask
you
and
I'm
sure
you
probably
have
a
finger
on
the
pulse
of
your
organization
as
a
November
15th.
Will
you
guys
be
going
down
to
Springfield
to
testify
during
veto
session.
G
Oh
I,
you
know
that's
going
to
be,
you
know
a
hullabaloo
down
there.
Yes,
it
is
November
15th,
but
I
would
assume
that
you,
you
would
probably
be
going
down
there
with.
You
know
knapsack
and
it's
there
for
the
duration,
but
keep
us
posted
all
right
will
do.
Thank
you.
L
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
I
was
wondering
if
there's
any
direction
that
you
could
give
to
property
owners
that
would
be
allowable
to.
L
L
What
he
knew
you
know,
but
but
the
dog
is
on
its
own
property
and
protecting
its
own
property.
What
what
are
some
hints
that
you
could
give
to
Property
Owners?
Well,.
K
I
I
guess,
if
anything,
the
the
easy
answer
would
be
that,
as
as
law
enforcement,
we're
not
going
to,
let
you
hang
hang
you
out
to
dry.
If
that
makes
any
sense,
I
mean
we're
going
to
do
what
we
can
to
get
that
subject
removed
from
your
property.
However,
some
people
won't
like
what
you
know
what
what
we
have
to
do,
what
we're
required
to
do
so
they
may
take
matters
into
their
own
hands,
and
at
that
point
we
don't
have
you
know
much
options
so
right.
That's.
L
F
Your
wheeler
well,
thank
you
Mr
chairman
I,
I,
guess
you
know.
We
hear
a
lot
about
the
the
hyperbole
from
one
side
of
the
mainly
directed
to
people
who
are
against
this
bill
being
reactionary
being,
what's
the
other
word,
I'm.
Sorry,
actually,.
F
Yeah
yeah
fear
markers
is
what
I
was
looking
for
yeah,
so
so
I
just
want
to
throw,
for
instance
out
there
say
I
leave
here
and
somebody
follows
me
or
is
driving
down
the
street
and
they
point
a
gun
at
me.
Stopped
their
car
in
front
of
mine
for
no
ever
stated
reason
just
totally
random
out
of
the
blue.
F
F
Than
I
do
because
that's
what
I
just
described
happened
to
LG
Sims
in
Springfield
exactly
and
he
decried
the
cashless
bail
system,
saying
that
by
the
way
he's
the
author
of
the
crime
bill
yeah.
He
said
this
is
why
we
need
cashless
bail.
This
person
was
able
to
pay
their
money
to
get
out
well
going
forward.
They're,
not
even
gonna,
have
to
pay
any
money
and
get
out
right.
Okay,
so
I
would
say
the
fear-mongering
is
coming
from
the
other
direction.
Yeah
and
it's
obvious.
A
H
H
It's
been
my
experience
over
time,
many
years
that
police
officers
who
don't
deserve
to
be
in
that
job,
don't
last
very
long,
and
so
it's
taken
the
local
decision
away
from
you,
the
sheriff
or
the
police
chief
and
someone
remote
from
here
who
has
no
skin
in
our
game,
is
going
to
make
that
decision.
For
us.
Yes,
I,
don't
like
that,
there's
no
due
process
and.
K
That's
the
drawback
to
it
is
the
due
process.
I
mean
nobody,
as
I
said
before,
nobody
wants
to
work
with
a
bad
cop
and
it's
up
to
you
know.
Obviously
we
can't
police
ourselves
anymore.
This
is
a
matter
of
going
through
a
agency
in
Springfield
who's,
going
to
make
that
determination
for
us.
It's
a
trust.
H
A
K
And
as
I
think
Mr
Coughlin
mentioned
this,
this,
it's
not
a
political
issue.
Well,
it's
not
a
political
issue
amongst
us.
This
is
a
public
safety
issue.
K
K
What's
next
Animal
Control
Animal
Control?
Yes,
so
there
have
been
an
influx
I
mentioned
this
last
month,
I
believe
or
somewhere.
That
there's
been
an
influx
of
dogs
and
cats
from
Florida
from
the
hurricane
to
the
Chicago
area,
and
you
might
think
well.
Why
does
that
affect
us?
It
limits
some
shelters
from
up
north
from
taking
some
of
our
animals,
and
so
obviously
that
affects
our
local
animal
population.
K
However,
Kerry
and
her
staff
have
done
well
in
identifying
adoptable
dogs,
even
though
we
don't
necessarily
want
to
be
in
adoption
business
they
they
have
started
to
adopt
some
out
to
good
homes,
which
is
which
has
been
a
plus
as
well.
So
we're
battling
that
population
with
our
animals
as
well.
So
but
they've
done
a
great
job
in
in
identifying
those
animals
that
are
adoptable
and
getting
them
to
good
families,
and
and
I
would
reiterate
that.
G
K
K
A
K
Is
that
it?
Okay
all
right
couple
things
we
had
a
recent
jail
inspection
from
the
Illinois
Department
of
Corrections
I,
believe
it
was
back
in
August
and
we
just
got
the
report
at
the
end
of
September
and
there
were
no
non-compliances
at
Jerome
Combs.
The
one
recommendation
that
I
mentioned
earlier
was
about
Staffing.
However,
it
is
a
staffing
issue
that
is
going
across
the
state.
Every
county
is
struggling
to
hire
correction
staff,
so
we
continue
to
work
on
that.
K
K
The
the
full
board
just
approved
a
new
contract
yesterday,
which
I'm
sure
that
our
Corrections
staff
is
grateful
for,
and
so
it
is
a
there
are
a
lot
of
incentives
in
that
in
that
new
contract
and
and
pretty
good
money.
So
we'll
continue
to.
K
You
know
that
that
to
him,
it's
a
credit
to
him
that
he's
he's
not
it's
not
about
the
politics,
it's
about
doing.
What's
right
and
that's
definitely
a
credit
to
him
to
to
help
our
community.
So
we
we
are
appreciative
of
that
and
hopefully,
we'll
get
a
good
result
out
of
it.
J
Yes,
thanks
for
sharing
that
information,
but
the
way
the
paper
made
it
look
as
if
it
came
out
of
Will
County
as
the
first.
K
One
Jim
was
the
first
one
to
file
and
I
mean
it.
Obviously,
not
a
race
or
you
know,
but
Jim
was
Jim
was
the
first
one
to
file
filed
locally
and
phones
started
blowing
up
shortly
after
he
filed,
and
it
just
took
one
person
to
file
it
before.
Obviously
the
other
50
people
or
so
jumped
on
board
there,
there
will
be
I'm
guessing
there.
K
K
But
if
we
have
to
blow
it
up
and
start
over,
then
so
be
it.
But
let's
do
it
right
instead
of
at
four
in
the
morning.
K
J
K
L
Just
could
you
remind
everybody
that
the
farm
vehicles
are
out
and
this
year
seems
to
be
the
comments
from
the
guys
work
in
the
field
driving
the
tractors
and
combines
down
the
road
that
their
drivers
are
excessively
aggressive
towards
them?
Okay
and.
L
A
M
You
can
see
that
basically
we're
still
on
the
uprise
with
with
the
autopsies
and
basically
our
numbers
are
a
little
different
than
what
the
sheriffs
are,
because
he
he's
got
eight
homicide,
eight
homicides.
We
have
ten,
we
start
in
December
and
they
start
in
January
so
other
than
that
the
suicides
have
been
up
also,
which
in
turns
takes
us
a
little
bit
more
that
we
have
to
take
out
of
the
autopsy
fund.
Usually
on
that
aspect,
I,
don't
think
any
questions
on
that
pretty
well.
Self-Explainable.
A
M
You
know
something
I,
it's
truly
a
lot
into
my
heart
that
I
have
to
tell
you
right
now
that
the
overdoses
are
on
a
Rise.
M
We
have
32
overdose
cases
right
now
and
we
have
10
pending,
which
is
definitely
going
to
hit
overdoses,
so
we're
going
to
probably
be
in
the
40s
and
we've
still
got
October,
which
is
already
come
up
on
us
and
we
have
November
yet
so
I
hope
we
don't
break
our
record
of
56
there,
but
it's
sure
with
all
the
problems
we're
having
out
there
right
now,
it
could
be.
M
It
could
be
close,
which
intends
basically
tells
us
that
which
the
good
news
is
that
I'm
back
out
on
the
streets
again,
so
I
go
to
hersher
high
school.
Today
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
drugs
and
what
the
problems
are
in
this
County,
with
the
number
of
particular
Fentanyl
and
cocaine
and
the
new
drug
aziozine.
That's
out
there,
it's
a
veterinarian
drug!
That's
out!
We've
had
a
a
possible
three
cases
already
since
July
fentanyl
is
huge,
so
I'm
going
to
go
out
there
and
talk
to
them.
M
Then
I'm
meeting
the
tomorrow
with
the
Jim
Rose
invited
me
to
come
to
a
pastor's
brunch
over
here
at
the
rec
center.
He
gets
probably
around
65
people.
There
I'm
going
to
talk
about
it
there
and
then
I'll
be
on
Route
out
to
Grand
Park
to
their
High.
School
moments
has
already
issued
that
they
want
want
me
to
come
out
there.
Also
several
other
schools,
Saint
Anne,
a
Mantino
we're
looking
to
go
100
percent
after
after
this
because
of
the
danger,
that's
in
our
County
right
now.
M
You
can't
understand
what
we
see
and
what's
happening.
44
years
is
the
average
age,
but
I
want
to
get
to
the
low
low
end
of
the
children
as
they
grow
up
and
know
what's
out
there,
and
they
should
know
that
too
I've
been
there
before
we'll
I'll
show
a
PowerPoint
today,
nothing
graphic
but
tells
us
a
story
about
what's
going
on
in
this
County,
it
has
to
be
done.
It's
a
bothersome
to
us.
It's
costing
us
a
lot
of
money
in
our
in
my
budget
and
I
feel.
M
If
I
can
get
out
there
and
talk
about
this
possibility,
we
can
bring
the
numbers
down
a
little
bit
as
we
did
before
when
we
were
able
to
get
out
there.
So
anybody
wants
me
to
come
to
any
of
their
functions.
Their
church
functions
whatever
we'll
be
more
unhappy,
Eric
and
I'll
either.
One
of
us
will
will
make
that
agenda.
Health
Department's,
going
with
me
today
to
talk
about
their
teachers,
possibility
make
sure
that
they
all
have
the
narcans.
M
M
Our
number
could
be
way
up
there,
so
we
got
the
grant
back
again
and
we're
going
to
go
after
as
much
as
we
can.
You
know
I
like
to
talk
so
and
I'll
be
out.
N
E
N
Candy
and
looking
like
Sweet
Tarts
vitamins,
whatever?
What
can
parents
look
for
as
far
as
anything
suspicious
in
a
child's
bag
when
they
come
home.
M
Well,
I
think
of
this
has
been
a
a
problem,
but
it's
not
a
problem
in
this
area.
Right
now,
I,
don't
know
if
the.
If
you
were
the
article
from
Joliet
on
the
on
the
the
corner,
there
mentioned
just
what
you
talked
about
there
and
got
knocked
down
very
heavily
by
CNN
by
Fox
by
the
Chicago
channels,
because
there's
no
sign
of
it
here
and
to
go
out
and
tell
people
that
you
gotta
look
in
your
candy
wise.
If
it
is
fentanyl
in
there,
you
surely
don't
want
to
be
touching
it.
M
So
I've
been
the
radio
station's
been
wanting
me
to
go
out
there
that
and
also
the
the
journal
and
I'm
not
going
to
talk
about
that
right
now,
because
we
don't
have
it
in
our
area
but
doesn't
mean
that
it
could
come
when
it
comes
I'm,
gonna
I'll
I'll
get
at
it,
but
I
I
right
now
we
don't.
We
don't
see
that.
N
N
I'm
glad
the
parents
I
mean
talking
to
the
parents
when
I've
been
out
in
the
neighborhoods
they're,
always
happy
to
go
to
a
neighborhood
that
they
know
is
safe
and
that
they
always
bring
their
kids
back
to
the
safe
neighborhoods.
So
I'm,
glad
of
that
and
I'm
just
glad
that
we
can
keep
that
nasty
fentanyl
out
of
this
area
because
it's
scary,
it's
scary,.
M
J
Morning
he
doesn't
know
what
attitude
deaf
and
dying
that
a
person
once
they
die.
They
can
steal
here
for
the
for
about
three
hours
after
death.
Don't
know
how
that's
ever
been
proven,
but
his
cliche
is
out
there.
But
my
question
is
from
the
point
that
a
person
takes
Fentanyl
and
presumes
to
be
in
a
state
of
death
before
you
bring
them
back.
How
long
can
they
be
in
that
state,
before
the
knock
and
now
becomes
ineffective?.
M
Well,
it's
it's!
When
your
breathing
stops,
basically
a
lot
of
things
that
we
hear
and
I
see
and
I
talk
to
the
family
about
it.
They've
been
snoring
the
fact
that
they
that
they
have
difficulty
the
breathing
wise.
Basically
Narcan
is
there's
no
conjugation
in
that.
So
you
can
use
that
at
any
time,
but
as
far
as
when
they're
their
breathing
stops
that
you
won't
have
a
chance
unless
you're
doing
CPR,
you
know
they
could
bring
it
possibly
back,
but
and
that's
talked
to
when
we
talk
about
the
Narcan
program.
M
M
That's
why
we
say:
call
9-1-1
get
an
ambulance
get
going
there,
so
you'll
have
more
police
officers,
carry
eight
milligrams
basically
and
we're
we're
working
on
that
and
I
I.
Thank
you
for
the
question
there,
but
that's
basically,
if
you've
got
somewhere
and
wants
to
learn
that,
then
we
can
get
somebody
there
to
help
you
at
your
church
or
wherever.
It
is
be
more
than
happy
to
come
out
there
and
do
that
anytime.
A
A
O
Carico
thanks
Mr
chairman,
but
I'd
like
to
congratulate
you
for
the
all
the
work
that
you
do
in
the
community
educating
people
about
drug
addiction.
My
question
is
more
Associated
to
the
line
here
that
you
have
with
the
number
of
cardiac
deaths,
and
so
are
you
aware
of
any
kind
of
educational
program
that
we
may
have
here
in
this
County
that
will
be
connected
to
the
Improvement
of
our
you
know:
residence
cardiovascular
system
and
that
way
to
prevent
cardiac
deaths.
Do
you
know
of
any
programs
that
are
available
right
now,
I.
M
Know
both
hospitals
have
programs
on
that
I've
seen
a
couple
of
programs.
I
can
check
in
on
that
to
to
make
sure
that
you
know
somebody
else
is
not
doing
it,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
that
I
know
it
works
with
us
on
EMS.
He
does
a
lot
of
the
cardiac
and
I'm
I'm
sure
that
there's
somebody
at
that
hospitals
either
one
of
them
that
can
do
some
type
of
approach.
O
Yeah
I
see
a
you
know:
an
increase
from
month
to
month
on
the
cardiac
deaths
here
and
I
was
not
sure.
If
something
available
that
people
can
easily
you
know,
have
access
to
I'm,
not
talking
just
about
you
know
having
your
cholesterol
check,
checked
or
you
know,
or
have
your
blood
pressure
checked.
I
was
just
more
related
to
an
educational
process
where
they
can
learn
a
little
bit
more
about
proper
eating
habits
and
other
issues
that
can
actually
be
connected
to
the
in
increase
or
cardiovascular
complications.
O
M
Can
tell
you
this
that
I'll
I
think
you
know
that
I'll
do
it
I'll
I'll
get
at
both
of
the
hospitals.
I
know
both
of
the
the
the
teaching
area
where
they'll
be
teaching
this
and
get
an
answer
back
to
you
very
quickly
and
where
you
can
get
where
you
can
go
to
to
receive
these
programs,
or
they
might
even
come
out
like
I,
do.
O
So
I
know
you,
you
ought
on
the
community
a
lot
talking
to
people
about
different
prevention.
Preventative
measures
is
that
something
that
you
will
maybe
be
interested
in,
including
in
your
visits
to
churches
and
Etc
having
a
qualified
individual
to
come
and
help
to
talk
about
those
issues
or
yes,
I
would.
M
Okay,
thank
you.
So
much
I've
been
you
know.
We've
been
stopped
because
of
the
Covenant
and
right
cool,
but
now
it's
it's
wide,
open
and
and
I'm
gonna
go
at
it.
Strong.
Both
Eric
and
I
will
give
100
out
there.
So
especially
on
the
drug
issue.
It
really
bothers.
G
Hunter,
thank
you
very
much.
Mr
chairman
Bob,
thanks
again
for
revealing
yourself
tomorrow,
with
rose
brunch
with
the
ministers
that
theodos
and
I
have
been
invited
as
well
too,
to
attend
and
I
know
that
when
you
have
come
to
the
NAACP
via
my
invitation,
I
learned
a
lot
too.
You
know
I
thought
I
knew
a
lot
about.
You
know
Fentanyl
and
all
that
stuff,
but
you
provided
us
with
a
lot
of
information
which
was
really
really
helpful
and
I
look
forward
to
your
comments
and
Presentation
tomorrow.