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From YouTube: Kankakee County Public Safety Meeting 6/14/2017
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Kankakee County Board Meeting 6/13/2017 9:00AM
B
A
Okay,
that's
not
to
ask
exactly
it's
early.
The
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
of
the
court
services
meeting
from
May
17
2016
then
make
them
yeah
approval
of
the
minutes:
public
safety
of
July
July
August,
September,
October,
November
2016
meetings
and
the
May
10th
2017.
You
need
a
motion
McConnel
second
by
mr.
Vickery,
all
in
favor
opposed.
B
C
C
C
Fiscal
year
16
to
fiscal
year,
17
were
one
point,
six
million
dollars
ahead
of
where
we
were
last
year.
So
those
are
those
are
obviously
good
things
for
everybody,
transport
wise.
Our
transports
continue
to
stay.
Pretty
consistent,
I
talked
about
the
need
for
a
couple
more
vans.
It
was
brought
to
my.
C
It
was
asked
Blatt
the
Finance
Committee
meeting
as
to
whether
or
not
we
could
purchase
those
vans
out
of
our
seizure
money
and
the
answer
to
whether
or
not
they
can
be
purchased
out
of
the
seizure
money
is
yes,
the
answer
of,
if
I'm
going
to
do,
that
is
No
I.
Just
don't
think
that's
a
responsibility
of
seizure
money
to
pay
for
things
that
we
do
daily,
and
if
we
do
this
now,
you
know.
C
Do
next
time
we
need
vans,
I,
think
using
that
seizure
money
for
things
that
should
be
provided
to
us
to
do.
Our
job
is
inappropriate.
We
use
that
money
for
training.
For
our
guys.
We
use
that
money
for
equipment
for
our
guys
and
I.
Just
don't
believe
that
it
needs
to
be
used
to
purchase
things
that
we
need
to
do
our
job,
especially
since
a
lot
of
our
transports
are
with
the
feds
and
with
ice
and
the
fact
that
we
are
bringing
in
a
lot
of
revenue.
A
F
E
Buying
five
a
year
for
a
year
or
whatever,
it
is
instead
of
you
giving
us
the
money
that
we
make
usual
borrow
money
and
pay
interest.
They
absolutely
no
sense
to
me
whatsoever.
I
know
I've
been
shot
down
on
it
before,
but
I'm
still
naviga
to
taking
ten
percent
five
whatever
it
is
that
five
bands
cost
and
rotating
these
bands
every
five
years.
It
just
makes
sense
to
me
and.
C
We
have
the
two
new
vans
that
are
just
getting
put
into
service,
and
then
we
have
our
other
I
think
five
or
six
vans
that
have
upwards
of
120
up
to
140,000
miles
on
it.
We
did
just
have
one
breakdown,
I
want
to
say
two
weeks
ago,
up
on
interstate
57,
near
Sauk,
village,
loaded
with
ice
detainees.
So
and
as
it
turned
out,
it
was
a
transmission
issue.
E
C
Under
the
sworn
you
know
some
good
things
happening,
our
citations
are
up
significantly.
Our
calls
for
service
are
up
significantly,
so
civil
process
is
up,
I
want
to
say
significantly,
but
civil
process
is
up
and
remember.
We
have
changed
our
fees
to
be
more
in,
to
be
more
consistent
with
the
cost
of
what
it
costs
us
to
do
our
business,
so
that
will
also
be
some
increased
revenue
as
well.
C
C
D
Nothing
else
cast
four
minutes,
so
I
believe
some
time
ago,
saga
dies.
Detaining
then
and
I
ask
the
question,
as
we
consider
calls
that
everything
would
be
factored
in
to
that
particular
cause
the
cost
of
transportation.
Everything
and
I
believe
that
that
time,
you
say
that
it
was.
You
know
you
all
consider
that
and
that
it
was
kind
of
like
invented
within
you
know,
because
expense
etc.
D
So
in
that
cause
of
the
bed
Reynolds
and
and
that
we
see
there
should
be
transportation
called
this
allocated
up
in
there
and
I'll
be
interested
in
and
taking
those
dollars,
and
it
should
easily
be
able
to
purchase
the
two
vans,
because
that
was
cost
that
was
generated
within
those
particular
figures.
So
I
don't
see
why
there
would
be
a
finance
issue
being
that
that
was
done
or
in
my
mistake,.
G
A
G
Thank
you
I
think
that
maybe
we
look
at
well
it
back
up
a
second,
the
first
two
vans
that
we
got
were
all
out
of
capital
development.
That's
the
way
they
were
budgeted
so,
whether
it's
just
shifting
money
around
that
we
may
consider
putting
another
line
item
four
vans
into
Corrections.
So
we
can
better
isolate
and
just
shift
that
over
there
to
be
able
to
like
you're
talking
to
maybe
assess
the
cost.
We'll
look
at
that.
That
would
make
sense
to
be
where
we
could
take
a
look
and
do
a
better
analysis.
G
As
the
sheriff
said,
he
has
reimbursed
monthly.
So
a
lot
of
that
stuff
is
a
wash,
but
you
can't,
you
can't
say,
starve
a
Golden
Goose.
You
can't
do
that,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
we
treat
it
correctly.
The
just
a
question
on
the
inmate
telephone
fees.
That's
way
down
and
I
know.
That's
not
necessarily
just
for
my
own
knowledge,
why?
Why
is
that
so
little
compared
to
what
it
used
to
be
because.
C
G
C
Being
I
do
not
have
an
off-the-cuff
estimate,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
between
jail
administration
in
the
state's
attorney's
office,
they
do
talk
pretty
regularly
about
people
who
are
in
here
for
low
bonds
to
try
to
move
them
either
move
them
through
the
system
or
get
them
out.
Okay.
So
we're
we're
already
kind
of
doing
that.
But
it's
going
to
have
a
the
impact
for
on
this
and
I
think
there's
still
question
as
to
when
it
goes
into
effect.
C
G
G
D
I'm
not
mistaken,
this
law
was
just
passed
on
Friday,
and
so
it
had
to
be
implemented
on
Monday
by
the
courts.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
it
deals
with
class
I
guess
what
they
call
it:
the
lower
class
of
the
felonies,
the
3x
and
4x
Seventeen's
and
the
misdemeanors,
and
basically
this
is
called
the
least
restrictive
bond.
So
if
you
don't
are
my
least
restrictive,
then
there's
a
wide
area
when
you're,
saying
least
restrictive
as
to
an
individual
being
just
released
out
on
his
own
recognizance.
D
Of
bond
that
can
be
applied,
and
hopefully
I
guess
they
take
in
a
factor
the
past
records
and
things
of
nature.
Hopefully
there
is
at
least
a
a
least
restrictive
dollar
amount
applied
to
it
versus
just
the
recog,
unless
it's
just
a
person
that
was
like
a
first-timer
or
something
in
the
nature,
but
then
again
that's
of
the
discretion
of
the
court.
But
it
was
interesting
to
see
that
they
would
go
from
the
felonies
I
thought
they
would
stick
with
the
misdemeanor
and
then
the
law
has
to
be
applied.
D
So
that
means
it
have
to
be
on
every
judge's
desk
in
the
whole
nine
yards.
So
there's
going
to
be
some,
you
know,
I,
don't
want
say
getting
used
to
but
implementing
the
process
and
then
is
there.
Anyone
monitoring
the
particular
process
to
see
how
it
affects
the
whole
and
if
any
past,
indication
of
the
state
passing
these
laws,
that's
probably
not
going
to
be
the
case.
H
C
Do
but
we
also
now
and
we're
in
the
process
of
this-
it's
called
BCT
the
camera
that
they
won't
come
and
go
as
often
now,
because
we
will
have
access
from
the
jail
to
the
immigration
courts
so
that
they
can
be
on
camera
here,
instead
of
us
moving
into
McHenry
or
somewhere
else
to
be
on
camera.
That's
why
there
was
so
much
movement
before
I,
guess.
H
C
H
C
Working
good
I
mean
the
corrections
is
done
outstanding.
You
know
our
lieutenant
in
charge
of
the
transportation.
Probably
I
know
we
had
here
in
October
when
we
started
I
haven't
seen
him
in
the
last
few
weeks.
I
don't
be
hasn't.
He
here
left,
but
he
does
he
movers
around
a
lot
and
does
a
great
job,
and
you
know
we're
just
we're
at
the
will
of
vice
and
try
to
accommodate
as
best
we
can.
You
see
a
continuing
yes.
C
C
It
is
frustrating
in
the
standpoint
of
mr.
rose
position,
because
his
assistant
state's
attorneys
go
into
court
and
and
there's
a
double
standard
when,
when
the
police
officers
don't
show,
for
whatever
reason,
mr.
Rojo
is
forced
to
drop
the
case
dismiss
the
case,
but
when
the
defendant
doesn't
show,
they
just
continue
it
or
issue
a
warrant,
but
you
started
on
might
say
something:
I
might
regret.
C
C
We
are
now
starting
to
kind
of
gear
ourselves
up
where
we're
under
the
2000
the
year
2000
standards
they
have
since
in
2011,
came
out
with
new
standards
and
we
are
to
make
ourselves
more
marketable,
I
guess
starting
to
look
into
what
we
can
do
to
get
2011
certified
and
that's
the
highest.
That's
the
highest
level
of
certification
and
there's
only
I
think
there's
one
jail
of
the
five
they
use
in
in
our
area
that
is
2011
accredited.
C
So
we
are
starting
to
look
in
that
direction
to
see
what
we
need
to
do,
what
it's
going
to
cost
and
things
like
that
and
we'll
make
a
decision
later,
we're
not
going
to
break
the
bank
I'm
getting
2011
certified
if
we
don't
have
to,
but
I
think
it
would
be,
it
would
be
make
us
a
little
more
marketable
if
we
do
that,
so
we
are
exploring
it
anyway.
Okay,
thank
you.
D
To
just
question
the
I
know
we
have
another
unoccupied
undeveloped
portion
of
the
jail
I
know
it
might
be
used
for
other
things,
but
getting
to
the
point
of
renovation.
Is
there
any
foresight
s2v
if
there's
any
grant
money
available
or
what
the
they
consider
or
offset
of
cost
in
bringing
additional
revenue
developing
that
area?
That's
really
bringing
no
income
tools
for
this
they're
lying
dormant,
but
when
we
built
it,
we
made
it.
You
know
for
the
addition
of
growth.
C
Taking
answer
your
first,
the
first
part
of
your
question
grants
we
have
somebody
who's,
always
looking
to
see
if
there's
anything
that
we
can
do
the
second
part
yeah
the
shell
or
Phase
three,
and
we
call
it
both.
But
if
we
were
to
finish
that
we
could
probably
house
another
three
hundred
the
problem
just
like
anything
else
and
why
I
would
suggest
at
this
point.
Unless
somebody
comes
walks
in
with
fifteen
million
dollars,
I
would
say:
let's
hold
off
a
little
while,
but
because
there's
no
guarantee
I
mean
we
could
say.
C
Look
let's
do
this
because
we
have
ice
and
by
the
time
we
invest
in
the
money.
If
we
even
could
at
this
point
in
two
three
four
years
and
maybe
the
president
changes
and
maybe
the
rules,
change
and
then
ice
goes
away
and
then
we're
stuck
with
three
hundred
empty
beds
in
a
fifteen
million
dollar
price
tag
on
it.
So
at
this
point
I
mean
we
continue
to
to
search
for
somebody
to
pay
for
it,
but
we've
not
found
that
person.
C
A
A
F
The
mobile
app
that
we
launched
on
Monday
I
want
to
thank
the
share
of
the
corner:
excuse
of
police
from
Kankakee
Bourbon,
a
Bradley
manteno
mayor's
manteno
Kankakee
probation
everyone
for
helping
with
that
initiative,
helping
us
get
that
out
there
in
the
community,
we're
setting
it
up
with
Crimestoppers,
so
they'll
be
receiving
the
tips
and
they
can
push
them
out
to
the
relevant
agencies.
We've
probably
got
about
16.
F
F
One
paralegal
working
on
that
the
attorneys
in
the
courtroom
entering
the
orders.
The
paralegal,
sits
out
in
the
hallway
outside
of
200
and
gets
agreements
with
the
defendants
who
owe
them
all
the
money
to
the
county.
I
think
in
May,
when
we
do
any
I
think
we
have
two
court
dates
a
month
or
maybe
one
both
you've.
K
F
So
it's
good
to
see
you
know
the
work,
certainly
paying
off
and
then
one
other
issues
so
on
every
Saturday
we
have
barn
court
here
at
the
jail
for
people
that
have
been
arrested
on
Friday
and
if
it's
a
holiday,
sometimes
we'll
have
it
on
Sunday
I
know
the
I
think
the
chief
judge
has
spoken
with
Andy
about
this
and
mr.
Regas
and
I
spoke
with
some
of
the
judges
yesterday.
F
We've
now
changed
it
so
that
there's
a
judge
state's
attorneys
there
and
there's
the
defendant
this
present,
but
it
makes
me
uncomfortable
and
in
our
office
because
then
you
have
a
defendant
there
with
no
counsel
who
sometimes
is
being
asked
questions
by
a
judge
and
really
should
have
counsel
president.
You
know
everyone
has
the
right
to
have
counsel
present
at
any
type
of
hearing.
It's
just
it's
just
the
right
thing
to
do
to
make
sure
that
they
have
an
attorney
there
at
that
initial.
F
D
F
When
they
have
holiday
court
and
it's
something
that
they
had
talked
about,
maybe
doing
through
the
public
defender's
office,
it's
it's
needed
and
we
need
to
start
it
as
soon
as
possible.
It's
probably
something
that
we
could
get
on
Finance
on
the
28th,
just
for
consideration
the
problem
or
the
problem
we're
having
is
you
know
we're
going
forward,
we're
there
every
Saturday
we're
having
these
hearings
and
these
defendants
are
without
counsel,
and
it
creates
liability
concern
on
the
one
hand,
but
it's
also
a
constitutional
issue.
G
I
appreciate
you
mentioned
than
that.
It
is
on
the
agenda
for
the
28th
as
a
$6,000,
at
least
whether
it's
official
or
acknowledged
budget
impact.
It
I'd
mentioned
it
to
the
Finance
Committee
before
that
it
was
coming
because
we
just
say
I
agree,
it's
something
we
have
to
do
and
I
was
hoping
at
some
point.
I
know
we
had
talked
about.
G
You
know
people
to
go
out
and
sit
with
defendants
while
they
look
at
their
video
and
and
if
we
could
somehow
maybe
wrap
this
up
into
the
same
thing
is
that
able
to
accomplish
two
different
things
with
the
same
individual?
If
you
will,
if
we'll
take
a
look
at
the
cost
and
that's
up
to
us
how
he
manages
those
people,
we
can't
have
huge
impacts
on
the
budget,
because,
obviously
we're
still
four
point.
A
I
K
Good
morning,
I'll
have
you
hold
on
to
this
little
paper
that
I
just
gave
you
for
a
few
seconds
until
we
get
through
everything
that
I
have
on
my
notes.
We
had
talked
about
generating
a
comparison
report
for
the
increased
fee
structure
that
we
did
for
the
sheriff's
department,
so
other
than
the
bond
fee.
What
other
fees
would
you
like
me
to
do
a
comparison?
K
Let
me
find
that
in
here
in
the
chart,
so
you'll
see
what
I'm
talking
about
I
did
a.
They
only
only
started
the
increase
in
May
for
the
bond
fee,
so
I
know
that
there
was
nothing
to
report
for
this
month,
but
it
would
be
the
binding
fee.
It's
on
the
page,
one
of
my
cash
book
report
about
nine
or
ten
down
one
to
nine
down
the
bonding
feet.
K
K
Okie-Doke,
okay,
so
ii
file.
We
are
working
on
the
e
appeals
mandate
that
is
up
july.
First,
we've
been
preparing
a
test
file
to
send
to
the
appellate
court
in
ottawa.
We
are
in
the
third
appellate
court.
Training
with
tyler
isn't
going
to
be
ready
until
june
twentieth
or
twenty
seconds.
So
we
have
pretty
much
all
of
our
pieces
in
place.
We're
waiting
for
the
training.
K
We
do
have
a
training
this
afternoon
and
around
one
o'clock
and
part
of
that
to
of
a
webinar,
but
the
actual
training
for
the
e
appeals
is
not
going
to
be
until
next
week,
so
we
I
will
have
more
information
about
that
next
month.
As
far
as
excuse
me,
as
far
as
efile
we've
started
just
with
two
case
types.
K
For
now
to
kind
of
give
ourselves
a
chance
to,
you
know,
get
a
ECLA
mated
to
the
process,
so
we're
accepting
l
filing
in
the
civil
courtroom,
which
is
judge,
Albirex,
courtroom
and
then
CH
filing,
which
generally
are
the
foreclosure
cases
just
to
get
the
bugs
worked
out.
It's
been
going
pretty
well,
my
chief
deputy
debbie
is
the
one
that's
been
doing
those
and
she
says
that
you
know
once
she's
gotten
into
the
flow
of
it.
K
It's
not
been
terribly
difficult
and
she's
looking
forward
to
moving
on
and
starting
to
train
the
other
people
in
our
office,
the
financial
portions
of
it
with
our
bookkeepers,
because
everything
of
course
is
filed.
So
the
money
is
being
automatically
deposited
into
the
account
and
it's
in
a
chase
account.
That's
who
Tyler
uses
so
the
bookkeeper
has
been
trying
to
have
phone
conferences
with
our
liaison
from
Tyler,
but
he's
he's
very
stretched,
he's
representing
at
the
same
time
and
he's
had
some
family
personal
issues
and
things
that
have
kept
him
on
at
the
office.
K
G
K
K
No,
no!
No!
They
don't.
Yes,
no,
not
at
all.
Okay.
So
now
for
the
Harrison
Harris
report
portion
of
collections
in
the
month
of
May,
compared
to
last
year
at
the
month
of
May
we're
up
56,000
dollars.
That
includes
a
a
little
over
a
thousand
cases
that
went
through
the
Illinois
debt
recovery
program.
K
So
she
said
she
found
in
1993
felony
a
ninety
six
misdemeanor
and
even
where
was
it
like
in
nineteen
eighty,
seven
conservation
violations
so
somehow
or
other
they're
finding
these
people
and
bringing
that
money
in
so
you
know
and
of
course
a
conservation
violation
usually
doesn't
amount
to
a
lot
of
money,
but
we
found
them.
The
wage
deduction
court
call
has
been
started.
K
The
first
call
will
be
on
June
29th
and
that's
a
part
of
what
Harris
offers
that
was
never
done
before
the
state's
attorney
allowed
for
that
to
happen
now,
so
we
started
off
with
just
50
cases,
just
to
see
how
it
would
work
and
because
the
court
work
isn't
as
bad
as
the
pre
court
work
in
the
after
court
work,
so
we're
starting
off
with
50s.
So
I
can
let
you
know
next
month
how
that
went
then
the
amnesty
program,
that's
what
I've.
Given
you
two
records
I
prepared
a
report.
K
That's
in
the
packet
that
was
as
of
Thursday,
June,
8th
and
then
yesterday
I
got
a
report
from
Paula.
That
was
the
update.
So
some
of
the
information
is
the
same
and
then
there's
additional
information.
But
in
nine
working
days
we
collected
an
extra
eighteen
thousand,
two
hundred
and
fifty
seven
dollars
and
seventy
two
cents
with
the
amnesty
program.
That's
been
interesting
right
at
the
beginning.
You
know
a
lot
of
these
people
weren't,
really
aware
that
this
was
happening.
K
K
So
he
added
that
all
up
and
he
came
in
with
a
money
order
for
each
case
so
that
it
was
a
clean
entry
and
he
would
get
a
clean
receipt
and
he
would
know
exactly
what
was
paid
and
whatever
well
I
came
in
in,
like
June,
2nd
or
something
so
he
said
well,
hey.
We
got
this
thing
going
on
the
same
ista
program,
so
the
interest
is
your.
K
We
can
do
something
else
with
the
interest.
Well,
he
ended
up
having
a
few
more
tickets,
so
we
were
able
to
pay
off
those
tickets.
Then
take
the
interest
from
that
and
put
it
aside
until
we
paid
off
those
first
initial
four
tickets
and
then
we
went
back
and
started
receding
the
money
with
the
REIT
with
the
additional
money
so
that
we
were
able
to
pay
off
another
two
tickets,
and
then
he
had
oh,
he
had
one
ticket
one
ticket,
and
then
we
had
another
three
dollars
or
something
to
put
on
this
extra
ticket.
K
K
So
those
are
some
of
the
kind
of
stories
that
have
been
coming
through
that
guy.
He
came
in
at
like
4:15
and,
of
course
it
was
after
5
o'clock
by
the
time
we
got
this
all
figured
out,
and
then
we
did
give
him
his
releases
or
we
will
I'm
not
sure
for
the
Secretary
of
State,
but
that
would
have
been
another
15
minutes
worth
of
work
and
he
said
well.
I
need
to
pay
off
the
DUI
anyway,
so
I'll
just
get
them
all
at
the
same
time.
K
So
and
then
we
had
another
guy
yesterday
that
came
in
and
he
had
$700
cash
in
his
hand
and
he
wanted
to
pay
as
many
tickets
off
as
he
could
and
he
ended
up
with
38
cents.
So
here
on
this
last
hour,
he
did
add
the
38
cents
that
signed
this
one
payment.
He
that
really
isn't
a
that
one
that
he
put
on
a
regular
case
and
so
that
38
cents,
really
he
paid
30
cents
to
the
case
and
8
cents,
went
for
the
percentage
increase
or
whatever.
K
So
so
that's
been
busy
very
busy,
but
and
then
we
had,
of
course,
someone
come
in
who
paid
on
the
28th
or
something
call
us
up
the
next
week
and
want
to
know
if
he
could
get
his
money
back
for
the
difference.
You
know,
and
so
we
said
no,
that
the
program
wasn't
set
up
until
June
1st,
and
so
he
called
me
he
called
several
people.
K
So
now
a
new
thing
I
had
to
talk
about
is
explore
information
services
llc.
It's
a
data
subscription
agreement,
I
had
a
former
employee
in
the
circuit
clerk's
office
in
Cook
County,
he
is
retired
and
he
is
an
attorney
and
he
has
paired
up
with
another
attorney
and
they
are
working
with
this
explorer
information
services
for
a
data
subscription
thing.
K
So
what
they
do
is
they
collect
information
from
the
circuit,
clerk's
offices
on
traffic
type
cases,
and
then
they
end
up
forwarding
it
to
the
insurance
companies,
the
statistics
so
that
they
can
gauge
what
the
insurance
rates
should
be.
This
is
a
revenue
generator
for
our
office.
We
will
be
the
annual
subscription
rate
is
$12,000
a
year.
K
What
I
needed
to
do
was
to
get
the
chief
judge
to
agree
to
it,
which
he
has
I
needed.
An
administrative
order
from
him
to
allow
for
something
like
this
to
happen,
which
I
now
pant
and
I.
Have
the
contractors
ready
to
sign
I
had
sent
it
off
to
the
state's
attorney's
office,
just
for
review
and
so
we're
after
today,
I
should
be
able
to
sign
it.
Kevin
has
prepared
an
FTP
site,
so
what
will
happen?
Is
me
or
someone
from
my
office
will
load.
K
The
information
I
also
had
to
make
sure
that
court
view
was
able
to
accommodate
this
type
of
a
thing
without
extra
setup
fees
or
whatever,
and
we
are
able
to
generate
this
type
of
a
report
with
the
system
we
have
so
I
will
generate
the
report
load
it
into
the
FTP
site.
Then
this
Explorer
there
from
Minnesota,
so
they
will
then
go
in
and
upload
the
information
extract,
what
they
need,
and
then
they
work
through
the
secretaries
of
state
office
as
well.
K
K
G
G
I
G
G
K
We've
already
gone
through
all
that
and
Graham
has
given
me
a
memo.
I,
don't
have
it
with
me,
but
he's
given
me
a
memo
of
the
things
that,
because
he
caught
talking
about
the
federal
court
and
of
course
in
Cook
County,
the
federal
court
is
in
Cook
County,
but
we
changed
the
language
so
that
it
reflected
Champaign
County
Explorer
information
services
agreed
to
the
exclusive
jurisdiction
by
the
state
courts
located
in
Kankakee
County
state
of
Illinois
and
federal
courts
located
in
Champaign
County
USA
hereby
waive
any
jurisdiction
of
any
mm-hmm,
so
sure.
G
I,
what
I
was
referring
to
was
the
statutory
ability
for
departments
to
enter
into
contracts
that
binds
the
county
board.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that,
with
that,
that's
obviously
within
that
agreement,
so
we
had
like
I
said:
I,
don't
have
a
problem
with
it.
It
sounds
like
a
good
idea,
but
in
the
past
we've
had
some
issues
with
department
siting
contracts
that
really
only
vest
the
power
to
do
so
within
the
county
board.
So
this
may
be
outside
of
that
because
of
your
unique
situation
as
a
sole
employer.
I
A
D
K
Amnesty
program
is
only
for
a
ticket,
that's
paid
in
full
and
they
have
to
come
into
the
office.
They
can't
do
it
through
credit
card
at
home.
They
have
to
come
in
and
pay
yeah,
and
so
like
that's
why
this
one
was
in
error
that
the
38
cents
really
wasn't
a
full
payment
of
what
was
left
in
a
case,
so
that
one
that
one
we
did
put
the
percentage
on,
because
it
was
a
partial
payment,
but
yeah
everything
had
to
be
completely
paid
in
full
yeah.
A
L
Morning
so
you
can
see
from
my
report.
This
is
stats
that
are
through
the
month
of
April
and
if
you
look
at
the
top,
where
we
have
a
category
felony
misdemeanor
traffic
juveniles
I'm
very
on
the
very
far
right
hand,
that
PMV
means
how
many
cases
we
have
pending.
So
we
have
four
hundred
and
ten
felonies
pending
four
hundred
twenty
four
misdemeanors,
a
thousand
traffic
tickets
in
two
hundred
and
fifty
juveniles
so
learn
and
saw
those
figures
are
I
feel
very
manageable.
L
L
If
you
look
at
the
individual
public
defenders,
the
important
figure
here
is
the
YTD.
The
year
to
date
on
their
felonies
in
the
year
to
date
means
how
many
felonies
have
they
closed
so
far
this
year,
and
of
course
that
is
what
I'm
concerned
and
that's
what
I
push
on
my
assistance
and
the
American
Bar
Association
standards
say
that
assistant
public
defender
should
close.
Seventy
five
felonies
a
year
that
should
be
the
limit
that
he
can
handle
competently,
as
you
can
see,
with
132
year
gone.
L
L
You'll
see
where
some
people
have
very
low
numbers
on
the
year-to-date
and
that's
because
they
handle
different
departments
right
now,
I'm
handling
the
criminal
juvenile
cases,
and
that's
why
my
stats
aren't
up
there
on
the
felony
year
today.
If
you
go
down,
for
instance,
Frank
astrology's
closed
eight
cases
this
year,
but
Frank
Stoll
was
handling
the
majority
of
the
difficult
murder
cases.
We
just
closed
the
mongrel
Clayton
murder
case
where
mr.
L
Estrada
and
I
closed
that
case
in
within
four
months
from
the
date
of
his
arrest,
and
there
was
some
unusual
circumstances
there,
based
on
his
condition.
The
next
case
mr.
Stoll
and
I
are
working
on
is
the
double
homicide
where
two
children
perished
in
that
apartment,
fire
on
Station
Street,
so
we're
hoping
to
get
that
case
set
in
the
July
for
trial
and
move.
It
move
that
one
along
too
you'll
see
Ben
Lawson.
His
only
three
cases
closed,
he's
brand
new,
so
I
really
can't
say
anything
with
regard
to
his
performance,
Rebecca
Cellini.
L
Felony
cases
and
Jim
Parsons
he's
doing
he's,
got
13
felonies
or
what
we
call
post
conviction,
cases
that
are
very
complicated
legal
issues
that
basically
are
coming
back
to
our
court
system
on
appeal
or
to
perfect
a
record
for
the
appeal.
So
he
has
a
lot
of
legal
research
that
he
has
to
do
and
in
addition
to
that
he
is
doing
some
traffic
cases.
Also
so
I
feel,
like
you
know,
I've
got
a
quality
staff,
they're
all
pulling
their
weight
and
things
are
going
pretty
well.
I
appreciate
mr.
Rowland
mr.
L
wheeler
helping
me
with
the
issue
of
the
bond
hearings
on
Saturday.
It
seems,
like
you
know,
there's
more
and
more
duties
that
the
public
defender
has
to
attend
to
drug
court.
There's
Veterans
Court,
there's
mental
health
hearings,
we're
rotating
right
now,
every
day
that
we
provide
a
public
defender
for
the
130
bond
settings,
but
nobody
wanted
to
do
them
on
the
weekend.
So
I
feel
like
that.
Compensation
for
the
weekend
is
only
fair
to
the
public
defender.
That's
going
to
handle
that
for
52
weeks.
You
know,
I
have
one
full-time
lawyer.
L
L
It's
not
like
my
staff
is
overpaid.
I
really
feel
like
they're
they're,
underpaid
and
I
feel
like
it's
very
important
to
the
respect
of
our
criminal
justice
system,
that
we
make
sure
that
there
are
adequate
resources
that
are
provided
to
defend
poor
people.
It
says
a
lot
about
our
society
and
it's
something
that
we're
doing
at
the
present
time,
but
though,
there's
always
additional
needs
that
we
have
to
attend
to
also
I
appreciate
mr.
wheeler
and
mr.
L
role,
helping
me
with
regard
to
getting
somebody
hard
time,
$12
an
hour
to
go
down
to
the
jail
and
sit
and
let
the
client
read
the
reports
rather
than
having
a
lawyer,
go
down
there
and
sit
for
a
couple
hours.
While
the
client
wants
to
reduce
reports,
I
feel
it's
like
money
well
spent
in
a
very
practical
thing,
so
other
than
that
I'm
real
happy
with
the
way
things
are
going
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
a
trim.
G
L
G
G
Might
be
able
to
help
cover
some
of
that
during
the
week
as
well.
I'm,
sorry
that
the
person
that
we're
authorizing
in
the
six
thousand
dollars
for
per
year
to
do
the
weekend
stuff
might
be
able
to
do
the
miscellaneous
poppins
to
do
during
the
week
to
be
able
to
sit
with
the
people
out
here,
as
well
as
part
of
those
duties.
If.
H
L
Problem
is
that,
in
order
to
reach
a
point
where
you
can
negotiate
a
case,
you
have
to
be
prepared
to
go
to
child
as
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
goes
into
reaching.
That
point,
like
sometimes
we'll
need
a
DNA
expert
to
helped
our
position,
and
once
we
get
a
report
from
the
DNA
expert
or
psychologist
or
psychiatrist,
it
helps
us
negotiate.
The
case.
D
When
you
were
conversating,
they
were
kind
of
like
three
questions
that
was
popping
up.
The
first
one
is
I'm.
Looking
at
the
numbers
of
pending
cases
now,
drilling
I
know
laws
changes
things
changing,
but
my
assumption
is
that
the
PD
is
appointed
when
there
is
jail
time
being
considered
or
the
potential
jail
time
for
the
client
is
when
they
appoint
the
public
defender.
So
in
1024
cases
jail
time
is
not
being
waived.
L
H
L
The
case
carries
a
potential
jail
time.
Public
defender
is
appointed
one
of
those
thousand
traffic
cases.
You
might
have
an
individual
who
is
charged
with
drunk
driving
driving
while
suspended
there's
an
assortment
of
minor
cases.
You
probably
in
usage,
disobeying
a
stop
sign.
That's
those
cases
are
that's.
I
L
D
D
So
they're
gone,
okay,
I
was
just
interesting
when
I'm
looking
at
you
know,
I
notice,
underneath
jail
time.
You
got
some
misdemeanors,
carry
it,
but
sometimes
it
traffic
Eights
I'm.
Looking
at
1024
and
I'm
saying
is
those
many
cases
you
know.
I
have
the
potential
of
jail
time.
The
other
issue.
You
stated
that
the
PDE
sure
clothes
75
cases
a
year.
L
Really,
no,
you
know
full-time
public
defender
that
I
have
his
name
is
Jim
Burns
and
if
you
look
the
second
line
the
year
today,
you'll
see
that
he's
handling
the
entire
aggravated
traffic
call,
which
is
yes
currently
880
pending
tickets
and
he
is
closed.
500
tickets
so
far
this
year,
so
that
aggravated
traffic
called
is
a
big
call.
The
state's
attorney
devotes
one
lawyer
full-time
to
that
call,
and
we
have
one
public
defender
full-time,
that's
devoted
to
that
call.
Okay,.
D
L
Let's
be
realistic,
I
think
any
lawyer,
that's
competent
could
make
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
easy
in
Kentucky
County.
So
why
would
somebody
take
that
job
for
thirty
five
thousand
dollars
a
year
because
they
get
excellent
health
insurance
and
they
get
pension?
So
that
translates
more
when
you
look
at
the
benefits,
translates
more
to
like
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
year.
So.
D
L
L
G
You
thank
you.
I
just
had
a
kind
of
a
question
along
those
same
lines
and
by
no
means
is
this
comment
or
question
meant
to
impugn
anybody's
ability
or
skill
or
commitment
to
doing
a
good
job
for
their
client,
but
do
do
a
majority.
These
folks
have
a
practice
outside
of
what
they
do
for
the
county
in
Oz.
G
I
G
I,
just
I'll
do
some
math,
but
I
want
to
say
it's
a
as
long
as
you
perceive
and
the
I
guess.
Maybe
the
State's
Attorney's
Office
perceives
that
we're
getting
that
value
on
you
know
the
appearances
and
things
are
moving
through
the
system
very
well.
I
would
say
that
there's
nothing
broke,
don't
fix
it,
but
yeah.
I
G
Start
to
look
at
you
know
a
rich
benefit
for
somebody
who
may
have
a
practice
that
they're
already
making
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
outside
of
this,
then
as
a
county
that
is
completely
cash-strapped.
We
would
want
to
look
at
that,
but
I
haven't
heard
that
it's
necessarily
broken
on
that
commitment,
and
you
know,
as
long
as
the
process
is
working,
the
people
are
moving
through
the
system.
Yeah.
L
I
mean
there's
saws,
there's
several
lawyers
on
my
staff
that
make
$100,000
a
year
in
private
practice,
but
they're
working
60
hours
a
week,
but
you
know
traditionally,
we've
always
had
part-time
public
defenders
in
Kankakee
County.
Ever
since
I've
been
around
that's
the
way.
It
is
it's
a
benefit
to
the
county
because
we
don't
have
to
pay
for
the
support
the
office
equipment.
The
secretaries
of
supplies,
they've
got
their
own
office
where
they
pay
for
that.
L
I've
only
got
two
non-lawyer
people
that
work.
For
me.
You
know
they
answer
the
phone.
They
attend
to
people
with
questions
they
do
our
filing
as
opposed
to
the
state's
attorney's
office,
because
all
their
employees
are
full-time,
but
they
have
a
support
staff
of
probably
a
dozen
people.
So
it's
a
great
savings
to
the
county
to
have
the
part-time
people
in
the
future,
I'd
like
to
see
a
little
more
of
a
blend,
a
couple
more
full-time
or
as
well
as
the
part-time,
but
for
right
now
the
system
is
working.
D
I
have
no
problems
with
probably
making
this
statement
if
there
is
a
cost-benefit
analysis
compared
to
the
service
that
you're
going
to
render
with
these
particular
attorneys
for
our
ways
what
we,
if
they
were
to
hire
these
attorneys
in
private
factors,
because
in
private
practice
just
to
go
to
an
attorney
dealing
with
any
felony
case,
you're
talking
five
or
ten
thousand
dollars
being
put
down
and
you're
talking
about
a
case
going
seventy-five
thousand
to
one
hundred
and
seven
thousand.
If
they
were
to
just
hire
a
attorney,
these
attorneys
have
to
handle
a
huge
load.
D
Let's
go
down
and
see
these
individuals
or
whatever.
There
is
no
way
in
in
a
lawyer's
reality
that
if
you
look
at
the
service
of
the
PD
Department
and
the
caseload
that
they
handle
and
you
as
to
apply
in
the
real
world
analogy
there,
this
would
look
like
public
aid
versus
the
billionaire's,
and
so
therefore
I
think
you
get
the
bang
for
your
buck.
That
would
not
ever
really
be
an
issue
as
far
as
the
cost-benefit
analysis,
so
I
just
want
to
put
that
skill
in
there
Spock
that's
yeah.
L
I
think
you're
right
mr.
Snipes
and
you
gotta
also
realize
other
counties
in
Illinois
use
the
same
system
that
we
do
for
part-time
Public,
Defender's,
Tazewell
County
as
a
population
same
as
ours.
They
have
one
full-time
public
defender
in
a
dozen
assistant
public
defenders,
but
there's
assistant
public
defenders
are
making
between
45
and
60
thousand
dollars
a
year,
and
if
you
check
the
other
counties,
Macon
County
I
think
King
there's
a
couple
of
others
around
our
population
size.
A
M
C
A
J
I
M
H
M
Just
real
quick
on
the
stats,
as
you
can
see,
attempted
722
field
contacts
665
were
successful.
We
had
2100
office
contacts
for
a
total
of
twenty
two
thousand
seven
hundred
seventy-one
successful
contacts
which
puts
us
a
little
over
13,000
year-to-date
completed
sixty
four
investigations
in
143
drug
tests
and
that's
about
screen
36
minors
for
detention,
that
it
ended,
pain,
22.
So
just
to
go
to
that
real
quick.
M
And
just
I
know:
there's
been
a
lot
of
talk
about
the
bail
Reform
Act
already
I've
talked
about
it
several
times
last
few
months.
It
is
a
concern.
You
know
if
you
look
at
the
numbers
of
what
the
jail
booked
in
a
12-month
period,
it's
a
over
5,500
people
that
might
include
everyone
I
understand
that.
But
even
if
you
take
10%
of
that
and
say
they
would
be
on
some
sort
of
supervision,
pretrial
supervision,
it's
about
150
people
added
the
population.
M
We
don't
deal
with
already,
and
that
was
a
concern
coming
down
with
all
this
coming
down.
Is
you
know
we
have
and
that
doesn't
count
the
bond
reports
that
need
to
be
done
and
every
one
individually,
every
one.
These
individuals
will
have
a
report
done
every
day
so
but
7
to
10
individuals
are
booked
into
the
jail
or
on
Mondays
higher.
We
would
be
coming
out
here
doing
a
report
on
them.
We
assess
them
with
an
assessment
tool.
M
A
validated
assessment
tool
put
that
report
together:
criminal
history,
employment,
everything
we
can
we
put
together
for
court
that
day
and
then
you
have
the
supervision
side
of
it.
Supervision
is
the
same
pretty
much
for
anyone
on
any
kind
of
probation
drug
testing.
There's
face-to-face,
there's
field
contacts,
home
visits,
GPS
curfews,
whatever
you
know
the
same
for
these
individuals.
So
it's
not.
You
know
500
people,
but
yet
we
have
to
have
little
contact
with
them.
This
it's
a
regular
supervision
type
standard.
We
would
have
it's
a
right
now.
M
If
you
look
at
our
caseloads,
you
know
we
don't
have
room
to
absorb
that
at
all
yeah
we
do
I,
do
get
funding
in
the
gratinéed
for
pretrial,
I!
Think
right
now
it's
about
48,000
to
change
$50,000,
but
that
that
position
has
a
hundred
and
something
regular
cases
are
supervised.
So
it's
it's
hugely.
A
huge
impact
on
us,
like
I,
said:
that's
only
10
percent
of
that
number
I
don't
know
it
could
be.
M
You
know
a
lot
higher
I
think
you
know
you
talked
to
the
counties
and
I
want
to
say
what
was
I
got
the
worst
situation
in
the
world.
But
in
a
way
when
you
talk
to
counties
north
of
us,
they
have
County
funded
positions.
Most
of
the
departments
have
people
that
are
covered
under
sent
funded
by
the
county
and
they
can
just
bigger
staffs.
They
can
absorb
this.
M
You
talk
to
County
south
of
us
with
a
few
exceptions
like
the
Tazewell
of
the
world
or
something
they're
not
so
concerned,
because
he
might
contain
a
few
people
weak.
You
know
in
a
small
County
southern
Illinois
type
thing
so
with
our
situation
with
our
crime
level,
with
our
size
with
our
financial
situation.
It's
it's
a
concern,
I'm
out.
If
you're
asking
for
anything
right
now,
I
it's
just
it
was
it's
a
concern
and
I
and
I.
We've
done
a
lot
of
reorganized
our
bulld
offices
and
how
we
supervise
people.
M
M
They've
done
a
wonderful
job,
taking
all
the
changes
in
different
policy.
That's
been
implemented.
Everything
but
I
think
throwing
this
on
and
it's
coming.
I
just
don't
know.
You
know
how
soon
we're
going
to
move
on,
but
by
January
and
a
OIC
is
really
moving
on
the
pretrial
services
area,
as
I've
been
saying
so
I'll
just
keep
you
posted
on
what
I'm
meeting
with
the
judges
today,
I'm
judge
Cramer
of
all
the
judges
today
to
see
how
we're
doing
this
split.
H
M
J
M
Now
yeah
we're
right
now,
I
mean
I,
like
I
said
before
McClain
County
has
five
pretrial
officers,
and
so
I
mean
we
used
to
have
to
now.
I
really
don't
have
any,
but
when
it
is
a
OSE
pushes
this
and
yes
I'll,
be
begging
and
crying
from
what
funding,
but
I
mean
that
we
know
what
situations
everything
sure
with
the
state
situation
episode
we've
benefited
because
they
have
a
cutter
grande
to
the
court
orders
issue
the
pace
of
a
previous.
M
You
know
previous
amount,
however,
the
bad
side
is,
it
never
goes
up
and
never
increases,
and
so,
with
this
kind
of
stuff,
that's
going
to
be
very
difficult.
I
mean
okay,
I'm,
looking
farther
into
the
dug
deeper
into
the
numbers,
but
you
can
look
at
you
know.
A
few
people
would
be
needed
because
their
purpose,
your
field
units,
have
to
be.
It
impacts
everyone
we
checked
on
and
sure.
Thank
you.
D
It
quick
I
heard
you
said
the
sheriff's
numbers
was
like
fifty
five
hundred
is
like
the
number
that
we
kind
of
rested
here
that
can
almost
represent
a
little
bit
over
five
percent
of
our
population
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
the
cake
he
is
experiencing
a
decrease
in
population.
According
to
what
we
read
in
the
newspaper
it
could
it
be
that
the
criminal
off
the
street
is
impacting
the
population
decrease
I.
M
Don't
think
it
helps
that
I
get,
but
now
that
number
I
talked
about
might
include
everything
sheriff
or
chatter.
I
meant
literally
this
book,
including
some
of
the
ice
detainees.
I,
don't
know,
but
no
it
doesn't.
I
was
hoping
you
say
it
would,
but
so
I
mean
that's
I,
don't
know
you
know,
I'm
sure
it
does.
But
it's
it's.
If
that's
a
true
number
of
it's
going
to
be
an
impact
in
our
office
now
about
it,
I
see
the
dumb
look
on
my
face:
I
guess
what
we're
going
to
do,
but
I'll
keep
the.
A
N
Anyhow,
as
you
can
see,
our
our
autopsies
are
continually
rising.
I
say
that
every
every
meeting
there,
but
that's
a
lot
of
money
right
there,
every
autopsy
that
we're
doing
as
far
as
the
outside
the
autopsies
we
didn't
have
any
and
may
ask
we've
had
nine
so
far,
any
chance
have
been
very
good
and
long
as
the
cremations
is
basically
the
high
standards
right
now
that,
what's
going
on,
you
can
see
that
we
had
one
homicide
with
suicides,
but,
like
a
big
point
of
suicides,
are
extremely
up
this
year.
N
Power
point
a
few
minutes
other
than
that
declare
I'm
declaring
the
three
going
to
go
into
that
I'm,
declaring
the
three
portable
radio
surplus.
As
two
years
ago,
we
bought
completely
new
brand
new
through
my
corner
speeds
of
all
new
portable
radios
that
have
to
be
digital,
updated
by
2020
and
the
one
below
that
is
a
digital
upgrade
of
my
car
videos.
N
When
I
got
my
new
car
out
of
there,
I
put
a
new
radio
in
that
and
was
also
in
my
last
car
I
had
I
had
a
new
radio
in
so
I
had
to
buy
for
four
radios
by
2020.
That's
for
everybody.
You
know
not
just
the
coroner's
offices.
These
are
these
range
anywhere
from
fifteen
hundred
to
four
thousand
dollars
a
piece
we've
been
out
looking
and
looking
and
looking,
and
we
come
across
a
good
deal
of
$425
for
a
row
for
the
one
times.
Four
is
about
1700
hours
and
my
bottom.
N
A
G
N
N
N
At
27,
right
now,
in
fact
this
is
we
were
sitting
here.
Number
28
just
came
in
I
can't
tell
you
how
bad
it
is
out
there
and
that's
a
very
big
cost
factor.
It's
costing
us
not
only
in
not
only
doing
the
autopsies,
but
also
in
the
amount
of
money.
That's
costing
me
extra
in
toxicology
to
bring
out
the
fentanyl
bring
out
the
different
drugs
that
aren't
type
of
fentanyl
that
are
in
the
system
in
the
car
Phillip.
The
these
are
things
that
I
have
to
have.
N
N
Morgue
expenses,
as
you
can
see
his
doubled
and
we're
not
really
done
this
is
only
six
months,
so
it's
been
a
constantly
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
handle
all
this
stuff
is
continuing.
I
know
we're
putting
a
lot
of
stuff.
Even
we'll.
County
is
tied
up
with
a
lot
of
autopsy,
putting
a
lot
of
pressure
onto
our
forensics,
we're
blessed
to
have
two
great
forensics
and
to
back
up
forensics
that
no
other
County
has
that
we're
blessed
to
have
that.
I
want
to
hold
on
to
them
too,
because
it
would
double
our
expenses.
N
N
And
here's
the
part
right
now
is
that
we're
at
350,000
in
my
budget,
we're
anticipating
at
the
500
thousand
right
now,
if
not
more
than
that,
it's
the
way
we're
running
right
now,
I
can't
stop
I
mean
I.
Just
can't
predict
it.
Here's
an
example
to
that
I'll
be
coming
up
here
in
a
second,
the
narcan
we've
had
16
saves
you
multiply
that
times,
15
hundred,
that's
$24,000!
That
would
have
been
added
onto
that.
N
J
N
Yeah
I'm
blessed
with
the
EMS
system
we've
got
in
here
that
would
save
us.
I
mean
like
every
day,
there's
a
safe,
it's
just
unbelievable.
What's
out
there
I
mean.
Let
me
just
give
you
an
example.
Here,
I
mentioned
any
names
at
all.
This
is
just
as
just
in
one
person
this
is
there's
benzoyl
was
it
was
it's
a
pain,
medication,
fentanyl
THC,
which
is
marijuana,
cocaine,
fentanyl
and
heroin.
N
This
is
in
one
person.
This
is
what
you
have
to
deal
with.
This
is
costing
me
an
extra
two
hundred
dollars
just
to
find
out
all
this
stuff
and
I
have
to
have
all
that.
That's
just
in
one
person,
that's
what
we
have
in
this
area
here
and
it's
now
we're
seeing
a
trend.
Now
it
might
not
go
into
this
heroin
because
we're
out
there
advertising
all
the
time
about
this.
This
is
going
into
cocaine,
going
back
to
cocaine
a
little
more
expensive.
N
N
N
We
we
go
all
over
the
place
to
try
to
turn
I
learned
so
much
at
the
Trinity
United
Methodist
Church,
when
I
talk
to
a
lot
of
the
people
that
were
been
on
heroin
and
off
of
heroin
on
here
when
I
learned
so
much
about
that
and
what
they
told
me
is
happening
here
in
town,
but
lots
without
nice.
We're
still
doing
this
we're
into
that.
We
just
finalized
city
police
here
I
think
we
have
about
five
to
ten,
more
and
and
awesome.
N
J
N
This
is
a
5
a.m.
we
do
program
all
the
way
up
to
10
o'clock
at
night,
we're
doing
programs
trying
to
do
what
we
can
prevent
anything
more
happening
in
this
county.
So
we've
been
all
over
we're
doing
our
job,
the
best
of
our
ability
and
I'm
blessed
it
like
a
that.
They
have
good
staff
that
are
hard-working
staff
and
helping
me
in
every
aspect
that
I
can
do
and
I
appreciate
all
that.
F
E
N
Brian
still
here
hiding
behind
there,
Brian
and
Pat,
you
solve
my
problem
at
the
morgue
for
for
the
the
officer
RJ
Hanson
was
working
for
the
sheriff
and
and
myself
too,
but
in
his
building
there
once
we
get
a
bad
one
in
there
and
it
rotates
over
to
his
area.
We've
solved
that
particular
problem
because
of
Pat
and
Brian
there,
and
it
makes
a
difference.
We
just
have
the
probably
the
most
decomposed
body
that
came
in
to
our
place
and
that
system
cleared
it
right
out
and
with
the
air
handling
units.
N
G
The
chairman
died,
you
know
the
the
the
human
cost.
You
can't
be
quantified
in
your
discussion.
You
know
it's
it's
the
impact
that
it
takes
on
you
first
of
all,
I
know,
and
then
those
in
the
community
that
that
impacts
even
and
even
the
addict
that
may
feel
lost,
but
know
that
the
the
financial
side
of
it
we're
counting
for
in
the
projections
on
the
budget.
So
we
know
I
know
that
I
think
most
realize
these
are
cost
that
can't
be
controlled
for
your
office,
and
so
it
just.
G
We
just
need
to
know
how
that
fits
into
the
overall
financial
picture
and
we're
doing
so
and
the
finance
it
will
be
addressed
this
month,
but
I
I,
just
want
to
mention.
I
know
that
the
emotional
toll
it
takes
on
you
as
it
takes
on
a
lot
of
us
that
have
seen
this
impact
friends,
family
and
the
like.
So
it's
understood.
Thank
you.
I.
N
Said
I,
just
like
the
one
here
come
out,
say:
hey
I'm
on
their
budget
and
that
one
statistic
is
all
the
way
back
that
I
looked
all
the
way
back
to
2004
I've,
never
been
under
budget,
and
that's
why
I'm
illustrating
right
now
that
500,000
is
probably
what
I
got
to
have
I
I
would
love
to
come
down.
It's
just
I
can't
and
in
the
amount
of
I
know
the
art.
The
forensics
are
going
to
go
up
in
price
and
also
the
toxicology
I
mean
that
that's
going
to
happen
so
do
the
best
that
way.