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Criminal Justice Committee Meeting 8/11/2021 7:30 AM
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F
E
Okay,
during
during
that
section,
I
asked
two
specific
questions
which
I
just
posed
as
a
question
to
the
group
to
consider,
and
that
was
summarized
with
quote:
there
were
no
questions
or
concerns
from
the
committee
after
I
spoke.
Mr
hunter
also
spoke
and
voiced
some
of
his
concerns
regarding
shots
in
the
mary
crest
area
and
that
wasn't
addressed
at
all
either.
It
was
all
summed
up,
as
there
were
no
questions
or
concerns
from
the
committee,
and
I
posed
at
least
two
questions
and
multiple
concerns.
G
Hunter,
mr
chairman
question
on
emotion:
you're
going
to
amend
them-
that's
fine
too,
but
you
don't
have
the
specificities
which
my
colleague
indicated
so
which
I
assume
that
the
the
maker
of
the
motion
and
the
seconder
are
saying
that
at
some
point
specific
that
that
information
will
be
incorporated
into
the
new
set
of
minutes.
Is
that
correct?
I
have
all.
E
B
H
Yesterday,
so
it
was
at
the
end
of
the
day,
okay,
all
right,
so
in
the
future
we
will
work
to
get
the
minutes
out
earlier.
The
board
is
encouraged
in
this
case.
If
there
is
an
issue
to
let
us
know
before
the
meeting-
and
we
could
address
that
beforehand.
So
I
understand
why,
where
mr
collins
is
coming
from,
will
effort
to
get
them
out
earlier
in
the
day
if
at
the
year
at
the
latest
in
the
morning,
so
people
have
a
chance
to
look
at
them
before
they
come
into
the
meeting.
H
C
B
C
B
B
I
I
I
I
do
know
that
there
were
some
changes
with
the
threshold
for
the
illinois
local
debt
recovery
program.
A
threshold
had
to
be
met
for
people
with
their
income
and
some
other
different
things
and
the
governor
put
a
moratorium
on
something.
So
we
had
to
turn
back
when
we
collect
the
illinois
local
debt
recovery
program,
money,
we
collect
it
and
there's
a
60-day
window.
Before
I
mean
we
don't
collect
it,
it's
collected
at
the
state
level
and
then
there's
a
60-day
window
and
then
that's
when
we
get
paid.
I
I
I
I
We
have
another
one
going
out
in
november,
so
we've
had,
you
know
quite
a
bit
there.
The
main
office
is
pretty
much
cross-trained.
The
traffic
department
is
pretty
much
cross-trained.
They
help
each
other
out
as
best
they
can.
The
minute
clerks
are
in
court
and
then
the
floaters
are
the
ones
that
travel
from
courtroom
to
courtroom.
So
that's.
I
Can
miss
be
missing
five
or
six
a
day
at
various
times?
Sometimes
it
could
be
just
for
an
hour
for
a
doctor's
appointment,
something
like
that
or
it
could
be.
You
know
like
a
lot
of
them,
try
to
schedule
their
appointments
at
the
end
of
the
day,
so
they
can
work
through
lunch
and
leave
an
hour
early.
Something
like
that.
So.
I
They
have
the
time
you
know
I
mean
I
mean
I've
got
three
31-year
employees,
the
next
one
will
hit
31
years
monday,
and
you
know
they've
got
five
weeks,
vacation
plus
all
of
our
holidays,
plus
three
personal
days
plus.
If
they
have
a
lot
of
extended
illness
time,
they
can
trade
three
of
those
days
over
two
personal
days.
So
there's
there
in
essence,
they
get
six
or
plus
weeks
a
year.
Does.
B
J
K
I
But
the
document,
storage
and
the
automation
fund
are
when
we
did
the
criminal
traffic
assessment
act
for
2020
or
july
of
2019.
They
we
had
to
restructure
every
everything
and
so
the
county
board.
We
have
a
resolution
that
we
provided
to
the
board
and
then
the
board
approved
it,
and
so
fifty
dollars
goes
towards
the
clerk,
but
it
goes
ten
dollars
to
clerk
up
in
admin
and
then
twenty
dollars
to
the
automation
fund
and
twenty
dollars
to
the
document
storage
fund
and
that
money.
I
L
L
The
storage
in
that
is
almost
like
you're
boxed
in
and
I
I
would
I
wish
I
could
suggest
that
the
county
do
like
the
city,
I
mean
the
village
of
bradley
and
we
could
have
bought
that
jcpenney's
building
for
577
000
to
basically
alleviate
some
of
this
storage
or
whatever
and
probably
do
some
other
things.
But
how
do
you
see
or
do
you
see
any
other
way
in
order
to
reduce
some
of
that
space
in
order
to
because
aesthetically
that
could
be
that's
kind
of
like
rough
on
employees?
I
L
I
Tight,
so
I've
invited
all
of
the
county
board
members
to
the
office
for
a
tour,
and
I've
had
three
and
I've
had
jasmine
come
in
also,
and
mr
rowe
came
when
jasmine
was
there,
so
that
he
could
also
get
the
tour
because
he
has
never
really
seen
the
civil
side
and
the
other
stuff
that
we
have
going
on
in
the
office
as
well.
The
offer
is
still
open.
I'd
like
whoever
would
like
to
come
in,
make
an
appointment
and
come
see
the
office.
B
I
H
H
You
know
we
have
to
move
the
project
in
the
basement
forward
and
those
files
are
going
to
move
it's
just
a
matter
of
it
be
nice
if
they
moved
into
digitization
instead
of
just
another
location
that
we
have
to
travel
to
or
you
didn't
have
to
go
back
and
forth
correct.
So
how
can
we
find
out
how
much
that's
going
to
cost.
H
I
So
the
the
company
that
I
work
with
they,
we
box
everything
up
for
them
in
their
size
boxes,
because
then
they
know
when
they
they
know
the
sizes
of
their
vans.
So
they
know
how
many
vans
to
send
up
or
whatever.
So
then
we
package
it
all
up.
They
they
store
it
while
they're
working
on
it
and
the
best
part
about
that
is,
is
if
we
have
some
random
person
coming
in
asking
for
a
random
file
that
happens
to
be
one
of
the
ones
that
is
down
there.
I
They
will
go
and
pick
that
document
or
document
set
of
documents-
they'll
fax
it
to
us.
We
give
it
to
the
person
and
we're
good
to
go.
That's
the
best
case
scenario.
So
if
it
takes
them,
you
know
three
months
six
months
to
get
it
done.
They've
got
the
storage
facility
for
it.
It's
in
the
old
schnoot
air
force
base
and
it's
in
a
completely
temperature,
controlled
humidity,
controlled
everything
controlled
building,
I've
taken
the
tour
a
couple
times
and
it's
a
phenomenal
building
and
they
have
tons
of
space.
H
H
We'll
can
maybe
set
a
meeting.
I
don't
know
if
the
chair
of
this
committee
would
like
to
join
us
sure
to
work
through
this,
because
we
can't
hold
up
construction
on
the
space
needs.
We
have
in
the
basement,
the
new
jury
assembly
area,
all
the
new
office-
that's
going
to
be
down
there
for
the
future,
needs
future
needs.
So
it's
it's.
We
need
to
get
going.
So
I
appreciate
that's
fine
yeah
we've
got
the
numbers,
so
we
now
we
just
need
to
move
forward.
B
M
I
Whenever
well,
we
have
the
index
where
we
would
know
how
to
find
them.
You
know
if
it's
a
very
old
case
and
it's
in
our
old
books
we
would
go
through
our
books
find
the
case
number.
Then
we
would
have
it
on
on
disk,
and
so
we
would
know
the
case
number
and
then
we
could
just
go
straight
to
that
case,
number
and
open
it
up.
It
would
be
in
our
office,
though
it
wouldn't
be
anything
that
was
online
or
available
that
way.
But
yes,.
I
I
I
G
G
I
G
I
I
can
I
don't
know
if
anybody's
here
that
was
here
when
I
s
when
I
came
in
a
few
of
you
have
taken
the
tour
of
the
basement
and
there
was
one
section
in
the
basement:
there
were
hundreds
and
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
boxes
and
upstairs
above
the
garage
where
the
the
public
works.
Trucks
are,
the
maintenance.
I
G
G
I
N
H
Wheeler,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Actually
the
makeup
of
that
committee
is
changing.
I
spoke
with
the
chief
judge
and
we're
going
to
be
getting
back
on
who
who's
going
to
be
on
that
committee.
There's
going
to
be
some
additions
to
the
current
list
that
sandy
said
over
so
we'll
be
reaching
out,
and
I
think
that
it
might
be.
Somebody
from
this
committee
might
serve
on
that
as
well.
H
B
H
B
B
K
It's
a
real
problem.
I
have
spoken
and
had
minimal
discussions
on
the
issue.
It's
kind
of
a
catch-22
you're
again
kind
of
with
missionary
you're
invited
to
come
down
and
watch
traffic
court.
I
know
mr
mr
hunter
did
right
and
you
know
it's
a
high
volume
call
and
I've
got
one
person
down
there
and
I'm
certainly
not
making
excuses
for
that,
but
it
is
hard
to
navigate
that
many
cases
when
you
only
have
one
person
as
far
as
shifting
personnel.
K
B
K
B
F
F
F
F
You
know
if
mr
panowick
was
here,
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
get
the
daily
custody
sheet,
but
for
those
of
us
that
do
just
yesterday,
four
people
in
custody-
and
that's
just
you
know
from
the
night
before
and
all
violent
domestic
cases
again
this
morning,
another
violent
domestic
case
on
there.
The
other
individuals
on
the
custody
sheet,
I
think,
were
two
of
them
were
warrant
to
rest.
F
One
might
have
been
a
retail,
but
domestics,
unfortunately
continue
to
lead
the
way
and
when
you
look
when
you
really
get
into
the
numbers,
you've
got
81
felony
domestic
batteries.
I
would
remind
everyone-
those
are
repeat:
offenders,
strangulation,
cases
or
cases
where
you
have
great
bodily
harm.
You
add
to
that.
F
G
Mr
hunter,
excuse
me.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
You
gave
her
this
the
empirical
data
and-
and
you
have
that
you
guys
have
this
information
in
front
of
you
and
as
much
that
you've.
Given
the
grand
jury
activity
and
the
pressure
it
puts
on
all
those
entities
that
you
you
referenced
in
terms
of
your
staff,
your
grand
jury,
meeting
from
nine
o'clock
until
4
30,
as
mr
jones
has
indicated,.
G
What
is
what
is
your?
What
are
your
operational
needs,
given
that
set
of
circumstances
that
you
have,
because
you
got
to
coordinate
all
that
stuff,
the
cops
and
that
puts
an
impact
on
on
the
local
jurisdictions
in
terms
of
police
departments,
the
police
chiefs
and
rearranging
their
staffing
for
the
streets?
F
F
I
I
really
don't
know,
I
don't
know
if
kcc
offers
that,
but
I
know
the
market
for
court.
Reporters
is
pretty
slim,
so
you've
got
to
get
someone
that
will
not
only
travel
but
then
can
turn
those
transcripts
around
very
quickly
and
when
you
have
a
higher
volume
number
of
cases
that
becomes
difficult
for
a
lot
of
the
court
reporters.
F
So
our
expenses
for
court
reporters
have
gone
up
significantly
might
be
offset
by
a
little
bit
last
year
because
we
did
preliminary
hearings
because
grand
jury
wasn't
convened
due
to
covid
restrictions,
but
they're
still
expenses
and
then
and
they're
not
only
charging
you
for
the
time
they're
there.
But
then
they
charge
you
by
the
page
and
sometimes
it's
three
dollars
and
something
per
page
four
dollars
a
page
for
what
they
type
and
that's
double
spaced,
big
font.
So
it
adds
up
pretty
quick,
we've
put
it.
F
We
don't
have
to
put
it
out
to
bid
because
it's
a
professional
service
we
have
put
it
out
to
bid.
So
we
try
to
get
the
most
competitive
rates
we
can,
but
sometimes
when
you
only
get
one
bid
and
you
have
to
have
a
court
reporter
there
you're
stuck.
So
I
may
at
some
point,
be
coming
back
to
the
board
for
a
few
more
dollars
for
court.
Reporter
fees,
yeah.
G
F
Otherwise,
we
have
an
attorney
who
does
the
conviction,
integrity,
it's
important
to
have
someone's
eyes
on
those
cases,
so
every
case
that
comes
into
our
system-
we're
not
just
looking
at
conviction,
integrity
at
the
back
end
after
the
person's
been
convicted.
We
want
to
catch
problems
at
the
front
end
so
that
individual
scans
every
case
before
it
goes
to
grand
jury,
presents
them
at
the
grand
jury
to
make
sure
there's
an
you
know
additional
level
of
eyes
and
integrity
in
that
process.
F
So
we
we're
we're
pretty
well
set
with
staffing
for
grand
jury,
the
challenge
there
is
the
court
reporter
fees
and
you're
talking.
You
know,
maybe
on
average
it
used
to
be
around
30
000,
I'm
guessing
that,
with
the
increased
number
of
cases
transcripts,
we're
probably
going
to
be
somewhere
around
50
to
60
000
in
court
reporter
feats-
and
it's
just
something.
I
can't
do
anything
about
that.
G
F
We
want
you
know
I
want
to
be
able,
like
missions
or
clerks
yancey
was
saying
about
scanning
documents.
We've
got
a
lot
of
documents
that
we
store
some
for
a
limited
period
of
time,
and
then
the
state
allows
you
to
shred
them.
A
lot
of
the
documents,
though,
are
for
sex
cases,
murder
cases
and
I'd
like
to
start
taking
domestics,
because
those
can
always
be
used
later
and
they
should
be
kept
forever,
because
the
post
conviction
appeal
process
could
go
on.
F
You
know
for
decades,
sometimes
so
those
documents
we've
got
them
stored,
I
think
over
in
the
old
veterans
building
in
the
basement.
If
I'm
not
mistaken
or
just
maybe
just
in
there,
I
do
yeah
I'd
really
like
to
get
those
scanned.
It's
it's
a
challenge.
Every
time
we
need
to
get
one
and
those
should
be
better
preserved.
If
something
happens
to
those
files,
that
may
be
the
only
record,
for
instance,
of
a
sex
assault,
and
it
could
be
problematic
if
we
didn't
have
those
available
to
us.
F
If
something
came
back
on
appeal,
so
I
I
want
to
I'm
going
to
try
to
get
some
bids
to
see
what
it
would
cost
to
get
those
records
scanned.
Our
corner,
gessner
and
deputy
coroner
cavender.
They
went
through
a
process
with
some
of
their
records
with
a
company
that
seemed
to
work
out
well,
for
them
seemed
like
it
was
reasonably
priced.
So
we're
going
to
look
at
that.
F
F
Sure
so
we've
had
two
employees
stolen
from
us
by
the
judiciary
with
nancy
nicholson
and
brenda
claudio.
Those
were
big
hits
to
our
office,
brenda
prosecuted,
every
significant
sex
assault
case,
probably
in
the
last
20
years
in
kankakee
county.
So
to
have
that
expertise
leave
that
you
know
that
presents
a
challenge
in
itself.
F
Another
one
of
our
attorneys
mark
laws
moved
to
michigan
clyde
galamo,
moved
to
dekalb
county
erica
hamer,
moved
up
to
moni
and
is
with
will
county
same
with
sarah
west,
moved
up
into
will
county
and
is
working
with
their
state's
attorney's
office.
So
when
you
start
to
look
at
that,
that's
a
that's
a
big
loss
to
our
office
at
all.
F
At
one
time
the
the
challenge
is,
you
know,
we've
had
ads
out
and
the
resumes
just
aren't
coming
in
like
they
used
to
I'm
told
back
in
the
day
you
would
put
an
ad
and
you
could
get
200
resumes
and
you
basically
you
didn't
even
have
to
read
them
all.
You
know
you
read
the
first
10
bring
them
in
and
you
could
hire
someone
statewide
states,
attorneys
association,
the
public
defenders,
offices,
statewide,
we're
not
seeing
that
anymore.
You
know
in
this
type
of
economy
the
private
sector
is
able
to
pull
people
in
at
significant
salaries.
F
F
At
the
same
time,
we're
really
got
our
backs
up
against
the
wall
right
now,
so
that
presents
a
challenge.
In
addition
to
that,
you
have
the
backlog
of
cases
and
not
only
the
backlog,
the
stuff
that
we
couldn't
get
to
trial
last
year,
but
all
the
the
increase
in
domestics,
violent
domestics
that
have
come
into
the
system.
You've
got
miller
cases
coming
back,
that's
where
kids,
who
were
under
the
age
of
18
were
prosecuted
as
adults
and
they
received
a
sentence
in
excess
of
40
years.
F
The
u.s
supreme
court
in
miller,
v
alabama
and
then
the
buffer
case,
which
is
an
illinois
supreme
court,
combine
those
two.
The
law
basically
now
says.
If
you
were
a
juvenile
tried
as
an
adult,
and
you
were
sentenced
to
over
40
years,
that
was
a
de
facto
life
sentence.
They
have
to
come
back
for
a
re-sentencing
hearing
that
re-sentencing
hearing.
They
call
it
a
miller
hearing,
so
you
have
to
have
a
miller
expert
testify.
F
F
If
it
was
a
really
heinous
crime
to
argue
for
what
we
think,
a
proper
sentence
would
be,
and
sometimes
40
is
excessive,
so
it
could
be
reduced,
but
those
experts
cost
money
you're
looking
at
four
to
five
thousand
every
time
and
if
you
think
back
how
many
k,
how
many
people
under
18
were
sentenced
as
adults
in
this
county
over
the
history
of
the
county,
right
that
are
still
alive
still,
possibly
even
in
custody.
If
they
had
a
long
sentence,
that's
significant
the
state
law
just
changed
on
class
x
felonies,
it
used
to
be.
F
If
you
had
three
prior
convictions,
they
call
it
a
two
on
a
two
on
a
two.
So
if
you
were
convicted
of
a
class
two
felony
once
convicted
of
a
class
two
felony
a
second
time,
and
then
you
got
a
two
or
higher
a
third
time.
It's
automatic
class
act
sentencing.
So,
instead
of
sentencing
you
to
a
class
two
level,
we're
gonna
increase
it
and
you're
gonna
face
six
to
thirty
years,
two
on
a
two
on
a
two:
the
state
just
changed
the
law.
F
Now
it's
those
two
on
a
two
on
a
two
only
count.
If
you
were
under
twenty,
if
you
were
over
21
at
the
time
of
the
offense,
so
they
basically
upped
that
age
right
from
18
to
21,
a
lot
of
people
fall
in
that
gap,
a
lot
most
gun
offenses
are
going
to
be
twos
or
higher,
and
most
people
that
we
see
in
our
county
committing
the
gun
violations.
Gun
offenses
are
younger
that
17
18
19
20
year
age.
F
All
of
those
cases
in
the
history
of
the
county,
two
on
a
two
and
a
two
are
going
to
come
back
for
resentencing.
So
I
mean
you
know
it
doesn't
just
start
effective
today
and
going
forward.
So
you
open
the
floodgates
on
not
only
what
we're
looking
at
now
and
in
the
future,
but
everything
that's
been
done
in
the
past,
we're
starting
to
see
come
back
into
the
system
and
having
to
defend
it.
G
F
Chief
judge
kramer
leadership
in
my
office
and
we're
looking
at
maybe
a
clerk
and
a
prosecutor.
The
prosecutor
position
in
part
it
would
be
grant
funded
with
some
money
we
have
on
a
sex
prosecutor
grant,
but
maybe
I
could
use
some
arp
funds
to
supplement
that
salary.
So
we
could
lure
someone
that
maybe
is
a
more
experienced
sex
assault
prosecutor,
violent
domestic
battery
prosecutor,
because
that's
really
I
mean
with
covid
we've
seen
that
huge
increase
in
domestics.
G
Not
only
have
you,
in
my
estimation,
justified
your
need,
but
I'm
just
one
out
of
28.,
but
I
I've
heard
consistently
judge
bradshaw
ellie
talking
about
the
escalation
of
domestics.
I
think
everybody's
heard
that
and
it
and
resonated
with
me
in
terms
of
people,
families
being
in
close
proximity
losing
their
jobs
and
all
that
stuff
and
and
those
numbers
have
gone
sky
high
and-
and
I
know
I
think
you
I've
had
private
conversations
with
me.
G
I
think
I
think,
aren't
you
on
harbor
house
board
or
something
and
you've
shared
some
things
that
they're
confronted
with
himself
well
too.
So
as
much
as
you
said,
you've
articulated
some
of
your
needs
with
the
chief
judge
and
the
chairman
chairman
wheeler.
Will
you
be
coming
forth
with
a
proposal
for
the
opera
funds?
I.
F
B
H
H
So
that's
what
jim's
talking
about
and
the
circuit
clerk
had
mentioned
that
as
well,
so
we're
trying
to
figure
out
with
budgets
and
everything
how
to
balance
the
5
million
loss
in
revenue
that
we're
dealing
with
because
of
the
changes
in
the
state
laws
this
year,
and
then
how
do
we
still
accomplish
and
work
through
speedy
trial
and
everything
else
that
jim's
talking
about
and
the
the
the
backlog
and
all
of
the
other
stuff
we're
talking
about
and
also
considering?
We
can't
find
people.
H
F
L
F
We
don't
require
that,
but
all
the
science
and
data,
if
harbor
house
was
here
they
would
be
screaming
right
now,
because
domestic
violence
is
just
not
tied
to
mental
health.
It's
not
tied
to
anger
management
if
it
was
right.
If
your
anger
issue
was
what
drove
the
domestic
violence,
then
you
would,
you
would
punch
your
boss,
you
would
beat
up
a
stranger
on
the
street
because
you're
just
doing
it
out
of
anger.
Domestic
violence
is
specifically
targeted
at
their
partner
at
their
spouse
and
it's
it's
really
ultimately
comes
down
to
power
and
control.
F
Now
they're,
it's
not
even
tied
to
addiction,
it's
not
tied
to
being
drunk
or
high
it's
about
power
and
control,
because
people
that
are
drunk
and
high
don't
walk
down
the
street
and
punch
everybody.
They
see,
you
know
if
they're
taking
they
take
it
out
on
their
spouse.
So
it's
that's!
That's
what
makes
domestic
violence
of
significant
concern,
because
it's
really
it's
driven
by
the
offender
and
without
excuse.
F
The
challenge
with
that
is:
we've
got
enough
work
to
do
in
providing
resources
to
the
survivors
of
domestic
violence.
I
can't
even
begin
to
think
of
putting
resources
into
the
offenders
right
now.
There
are
programs
out
there.
Hope
and
choices
are
two
local
organizations
that
provide
domestic
violence
counseling
through
a
court-driven
dv
diversion
program.
L
L
But
at
some
point
in
time
we
can
address
the
issues
on
the
one
side,
which
is
definitely
plausible,
but
at
the
same
time
that
individual
again
screams
help
in
some
kind
of
way,
because
apparently
it's
now
they're
out
of
control
and
some
kind
of
way
it
needs
to
be
addressed
other
than
just
going
into
jail.
Then
coming
back
out
and
doing
it
again,.
B
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Last
week,
the
assistant
or
last
meeting,
rather
the
assistant
public
defender,
voiced
her
personal
opinion
that
gun
ownership
leads
to
increased
gun
violence.
I
had
a
couple
questions
for
her
and
I
was
asked
to
direct
them
towards
you,
which
is
what
I
wanted
to
do.
Anyways.
According
to
cdc
statistics,
gun
ownership
not
only
reduces
but
drastically
reduces
violence
in
our
communities.
E
This
is
all
very
easy
to
search
said
that
their
estimates
put
the
number
of
lives
saved
from
gun
ownership
between
sixty
thousand
and
two
point
mill.
2.5
million
lives
saved
every
year,
which
clearly
says
that
gun
ownership
leads
to
less
gun
related
deaths.
So,
in
regards
to
the
violence
that
we've
been
seeing
in
kankakee
there's
some
statistics.
The
black
gun
ownership
in
america
is
significantly
lower
than
white
gun
ownership.
E
E
I
that
very
day
I
actually
saw
an
article
from
npr
which
I'm
not
the
biggest
fan
of,
but
that
stated
that
county
counties
across
the
entire
nation
are
dismissing
traffic
cases
that
do
not
involve
injured
parties
in
an
effort
to
mitigate
the
impending
wave
of
people
filing
for
the
right
to
a
speedy
trial.
So
I
just
wanted
to
know
what
your
position
was
on
all
of
those
things.
Please,
jim,
that's
a
lot.
It's
like
my
whole
job.
Well,.
F
So
guns,
you
know,
I
own
a
gun,
it
didn't
make
me
less
violent.
It
didn't
make
me
more
violent,
but
I
own
my
firearm
legally
and
if
you
want
to
own
a
firearm
in
the
state
of
illinois,
you
have
to
do
so
within
the
law.
If
the
law
requires
a
foid,
you've
got
to
get
a
foid.
If
you
want
to
carry
it
concealed
and
loaded,
you've
got
to
have
a
ccl
license
and
you
can
only
carry
it
in
those
areas
where
it's
permitted
under
law,
I'm
all
for
responsible
gun
ownership.
F
F
The
reality
is
violent.
People
commit
violent
crimes
and
criminals,
criminals
commit
crimes,
whether
you're
white
or
black,
hispanic.
It's
really
it's
really
quite
irrelevant,
and
it's
irrelevant
not
only
to
policy,
but
it's.
It's
also
irrelevant
to
our
work
in
the
prosecutor's
office.
We've
changed
it.
F
So
when
a
case
comes
in,
there
used
to
be
a
screen
sheet,
we
don't
even
list
the
person's
race
at
the
top
of
that
screen
sheet,
because
you
certainly
don't
want
bias
to
come
into
play,
but
you
also
don't
even
want
implicit
bias
to
come
into
play
when
you're
making
those
charging
decisions.
So
we
how
how
this
state's
attorney's
office
looks
at
it.
Is
we
look
at
it?
What
is
the
law,
and
is
there
a
violation
of
the
law
here?
F
So
you
know
we
play
it
by
the
book
when
you
want
to
talk
about
violent
gun,
offenses,
there's
so
much
that
underlies
that
in
our
community,
the
majority
of
the
shootings
in
the
city
of
kankakee,
I
believe,
if
the
police
chief
was
here,
he
would
tell
you
they're
being
committed
by
juveniles.
There
are
a
lot
of
kids
running
around
this
community.
Shooting
15
to
34
is.
F
Sure-
and
I
would
say
in
our
community,
we
don't
really
see
a
lot
of
probably
24
to
34
year
olds,
committing
violent
offenses
with
firearms,
we're
seeing
that
15
to
24.
and
among
those
especially
the
juveniles.
You
know,
I
it
I
say
it
in
jest,
but
if
I
could
take
12
kids
out
of
our
community
and
I
could
name
them
and
and
relocate
them,
the
shootings
would
go
down,
probably
by
90
percent
in
the
city
of
kangaki.
F
E
I
would
love
to
see
programs
in
our
town,
preferably
by
not-for-profit
organizations
that
go
in
to
encourage
people
and
teach
them
how
to
properly
go
about
obtaining
a
firearm
legally
obtaining
a
firearm
and
passing
that
knowledge
on
to
their
children
to
make
them
more
safe.
There's
been
a
lot
of
talk,
obviously
with
the
kovit
19,
and
what
people's
obligation
is
morally
to
society,
to
keep
each
other
safe
and,
according
to
the
cdc
gun
ownership,
makes
people
more
safe.
E
F
I'm
I
have
no
issue
with
legal
responsible
gun
ownership.
If
someone
wants
to
exercise
their
second
amendment,
I
do
I
carry
it's
something
we
should
encourage,
though
I
don't,
I
don't
think
that's
the
state's
attorney's
job
to
encourage
people
to
bring
guns
into
their
homes
or
to
to
discourage
them
from
bringing
guns
into
their
homes.
I
simply
I
support
legal
responsible
gun
ownership.
F
Okay,
as
far
as
the
traffic
matters,
when
you
look
at
that
number
four
thousand
traffic
cases-
and
you
can
say
that
there's
a
number
of
those
without
an
injured
party.
Thank
god.
First
of
all
that
the
number
of
those
four
thousand
don't
have
injured
parties,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
many
of
those
cases
are
duis
that
are
pending
in
the
system
and
have
been
in
there
for
quite
a
long
time.
Mr
penneweek
spoke
to
his
one
prosecutor.
What
he's
talking
about
is
courtroom
200.,
so
those
numbers
aren't
necessarily
109
cases.
F
Courtroom
200
is
aggravated
traffic
call
so
you're
talking
about
duis
you're
talking
about
people
who,
usually,
if
you
get
caught
driving
without
insurance
and
you
come
into
court
and
you
show
proof
of
insurance.
The
goal
there
is
compliance
okay,
but
on
your
second
time
of
getting
caught
with
driving
without
insurance.
Now
what
you're
doing
is
you're
putting
that
burden
on
the
other
driver.
If
you
do
strike
someone,
the
law
requires
you
to
have
insurance.
F
If
every
time
I
keep
dismissing
insurance
tickets
and
I'm
waiting
for
that
person
to
have
an
accident
where
then
there
is
an
injured
party,
then
that
injured
party
goes
without
any
type
of
compensation.
They
bear
the
burden
for
their
own
medical
bills
and
they're
driven
into
bankruptcy.
I
simply
can't
have
a
a
process
or
a
system
that
puts
people
at
that
risk.
F
That's
really
hard
work.
The
other
cases
you're
gonna,
see
in
there
are
reckless
driving
those.
That's
why
it's
an
aggravated
traffic
call.
These
are
not
stop
sign
tickets.
These
are
not.
You
know,
kids,
who
get
a
speeding
ticket.
Most
of
those
cases
are
diverted
anyways.
They
go
to
kcc,
they
get
the
traffic
school.
It's
about
learning
it's
about
compliance,
even
people
that
come
in
and
maybe
they
get
caught
driving
and
their
license
was
expired.
Coming
with
your
renewed
license,
we
dismissed
the
ticket.
This
is
not
a
revenue
operation.
F
No
one
in
our
courtroom
knows
anything
about
how
much
of
a
fine
or
a
fee
goes
to
which
departments
the
majority
of
it.
To
be
honest,
you
doesn't
even
come
to
the
county.
I
think
the
state's
attorney's
office
might
get
a
dollar
a
ticket
at
four
thousand
dollars.
If
I
got
a
conviction
on
every
one
of
those
that
4
000
isn't
going
to
buy
pencils,
to
be
honest
with
you,
so
revenue
doesn't
drive
the
bus
there.
It's
about
public
safety.
B
F
We
do
that
every
time
that
case
comes
up
so
every
time
the
case
comes
up
in
court.
Our
prosecutors
in
that
courtroom
have
very
specific
guidelines
that
they
follow
in
the
prosecution
of
every
case
on
a
dui
death
case,
every
single
time,
we're
going
for
14
years,
which
is
the
maximum
sentence
on
an
expired
license.
Every
single
time
you
come
in
with
a
renewed
license
or
a
valid
license,
we're
dismissing
it
going.
We
we
do
that
review.
We
going.
B
N
Lehrer,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
in
in
regard
to
the
issue
of
traffic
stops,
and
no
one
on
this
board
makes
a
traffic
stop,
so
we're
not
the
ones
that
are
deciding
what
is
basis
for
a
traffic.
Stop
I've
sat
here
and
heard
the
sheriff
say
many
times.
The
purpose
of
traffic
stops
is
because
speed
kills.
N
Speed
leads
to
accidents,
which
the
sheriff
has
been
very
adamant.
He
wants
to
reduce.
It
leads
to
fatalities,
is
pointed
to
the
fact
that
his
instructions
to
his
deputies
are
to
be
conscious.
That
speed
is
what
leads
to
fatalities,
and
thus
that
should
be
the
motivation
behind
traffic
tickets.
I
believe
that's
how
our
sheriff's
department
is
operating.
E
What
are
your
hopes
and,
first
of
all,
I'd
like
to
reiterate,
as
I
often
do,
that
I'm
really
thankful
that
we
have
such
an
attentive
and
thoughtful
state
or
state's
attorney
as
yourself,
and
I
really
appreciate
a
lot
of
things
that
you
do.
What
are
your
hopes
and
aspirations
to
tackle
the
impending
wave
of
people
filing
for
speedy
trial.
F
We're
just
going
to
have
to
be
ready
on
those
cases.
You
know
the
reality
is
now
on
any
given
jury
monday.
Sometimes
you
go
into
a
courtroom.
You've
got
18
cases
set
for
jury
trial.
You
can
try
one
case
in
a
courtroom
at
a
time,
but
that
means
on
the
state
side
right
each
each
defense
attorney
on
those
case.
They
have
to
be
ready
for
their
one
case.
On
our
case,
our
two
or
three
prosecutors
in
that
courtroom
have
to
be
ready
for
18
trials,
and
then
only
one
of
them
goes.
F
So
you
spend
your
entire
weekend
preparing
for
six
or
seven
trials,
each
that
don't
even
happen,
but
we're
just
gonna
have
to
be
ready.
You
know
whether,
whether
it's
longer
hours,
if
we
can
get
people
in
to
fill
these
positions
great,
but
I'm
not
going
to
be
backed
into
a
corner
where
I
have
to
decide
which
cases
I'm
going
to
dismiss
so
we're
going
to
have
to
be
ready.
If
that
means
we
have
to
bring
judges
in
from
other
counties
to
preside
over
trials,
make
other
space
available.
F
Iroquois
has
volunteered
in
the
past
to
bring
some
judges
in
they're
in
the
same
circuit.
If
we
have
to
try
the
cases
in
a
will
county
courthouse,
we'll
call
them
and
ask
them,
but
the
case
is
jake
that
you
got
to
understand
man.
The
cases
that
are
pending
are
felony
cases
right.
Those
are
the
ones
that
are
going
to
trial,
one,
especially
the
ones
that
are
in
custody.
They
have
the
shorter
speedy
period,
and
I
think
the
sheriff
would
tell
you
we
check
that
list
regularly
to
see
who's
in
custody.
F
These
are
sex
sex,
child
molesters,
domestic
abusers
who
have
strangled
a
woman
they're
like
some
of
the
most
violent.
You
know
the
non-violent
offenses
under
the
state
law.
Those
people
are
not
in
custody
anymore,
so
the
wave
is
coming,
we're
going
to
figure
a
way
to
weather
it,
but
I'm
not
going
to
be.
We
are
not.
This
off
is
not
going
to
be
in
a
position
where
I
have
to
pick.
Who
am
I
going
to
let
out
today
and
who
am
I
going
to
prosecute
today?
E
F
If
they
have
a
speedy
demand
right
so
let's
say
the
moratorium
on
speedy
trials
is
lifted,
which
I
think
is
coming
in
october,
if
that's
lifted,
and
someone
makes
a
demand
for
a
speedy
trial
and
they're
not
taken
to
trial
within
that
period,
which
varies
depending
on
incorrect
custody.
If
that
time
runs,
that
case
is
dismissed,
it's
not
even
to
our
discretion
right.
F
L
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
While
I
appreciate
the
the
long
dialogue
regarding
the
second
amendment,
I
would
that
we
limit
the
scope
of
the
meeting
to
the
issues
that
are
germane
to
the
agenda
in
his
narrative,
in
that
we
have
some
other
things
to
do
so.
Just
want
to
just
make
a
point
of
clarification
who.
F
B
D
A
portion
of
that
would
be
coming
back
to
the
county
we
set
up
a
due
pro
due
process
is
guaranteed
in
that
what
we
will
have
to
institute
is
we'll
have
to
have
at
the
time
we'll
have
a
sentiment
notice
that
they're
entitled
to
a
hearing
to
contest
the
probable
cause
on
on
the
stop.
That
would
be
done.
Probably
what
I
envision
anyway,
is
that
we
will
set
up
a
regular
call,
probably
here
on
one
afternoon
a
month
in
which
a
hearing
officer
for
the
county
would
he
would
bring.
D
It
specifically
sets
forth
that
an
assistant
states
attorney
with
more
than
three
years
of
of
experience,
can
be
the
hearing
officer,
so
you
wouldn't
be
looking
at
additional
expense
of
hiring
an
outside
hearing
officer
and
they
would
then
come
in
and
then
anybody
that
doesn't
come
in
will
then
get
the
500
then
would
would
come
back
to
the
county.
So
does
anybody
have
any
questions
on
that
questions?.
D
D
D
I
don't
necessarily
agree
with
that
legal
opinion.
However,
the
state
specifically
came
down
with
new
legislation
that
that
specified,
non-home
rule
community
municipalities
are
able
to
do
this.
What
this
does
is
brings
that
new
legislation
in
and
then
sets
up
a
process
in
which
we
can
we
can
follow
through
and
get
these
basically
get
these
monies
and
have
that
process,
but
also
give
people
do
you
know,
give
give
them
an
opportunity
to
be
heard
in.
F
L
E
As
a
person
that
at
one
point
received
a
ticket
for
no
insurance,
because
I
had
I
owned
two
vehicles
and
I
had
the
wrong
card
in
the
wrong
car
hypothetically,
if
I
were
pulled
over
leaving
today
and
I
had
the
wrong
insurance
card,
could
my
vehicle
be
impounded?
An
uninsured
motor
vehicle
can
be
not
uninsured?
I
just
didn't,
have
the
proper
documentation,
so
would
you
impound
my
vehicle
pending
a
court
date
to
prove
that
it
would
probably.
F
Probably
be
officer
discretion,
okay,
but
in
that
instance,
if
you're
driving
a
vehicle
without
proof
of
insurance,
it's
going
to
be
considered
an
uninsured
motor
vehicle.
It
could
be
impounded
at
that
point.
But
that's
why
there's
that
due
process
component
to
it,
I
know
it's
an
inconvenience.
It
could
be
a
terrible
inconvenience,
but
that
due
process
component
would
allow
you
to
recover
that
vehicle.
E
That
terrible
inconvenience
could
lead
to
people
losing
their
jobs,
their
life
ending
relationships
and
literally
the
line
here
says
it
shall
not
be
necessary
for
criminal
charges
to
be
filed,
prosecuted
and
or
proven
in
order
to
demonstrate
that
one
of
the
following
violations
has
been
committed.
What
that
says
is
that
you're
guilty
before
you're
proven
innocent
well.
F
Well,
what
it
does
is:
it
separates
the
administrative
side,
the
civil
side,
from
the
criminal
side,
because
if
it
didn't
say
that,
then
what
that
would
guarantee
is
that
if
you
got
pulled
over
for
no
insurance,
you
would
absolutely
be
prosecuted
by
my
office.
That
would
be
the
flip
side
of
that
which
you
wouldn't
want.
So
what
that
does?
Is
it
separates
it
so,
the
criminal
side?
F
E
E
F
Country
huge
problem,
but
here's
the
flip
side
of
that.
If
you
give
someone
the
drugs
and
their
drug
money
back,
they've
suffered
no
consequence
right.
So
that's
the
way
to
get
those
drugs
to
get.
Maybe
the
the
proceeds
that
they're
using
to
fund
their
drug
business
off
the
street,
but
still
allowing
us
on
the
criminal
side
to
offer
perhaps
treatment
as
opposed
to
a
felony
conviction.
So
there's
always
a
counterbalance
to
it.
B
L
Third,
no,
we
were
going.
We
were
on
another
conversation,
but
this
is
something
kind
of
grabbed
me.
If
a
person
has
a
in,
they
didn't
have
the
insurance
card
or
was
the
wrong
vehicle.
Well,
if
a
person
is
fully
insured,
no
matter
what
they
will
still
be
an
insured
driver
of
the
vehicle
that
they're
driving,
would
that
not
be
the
case
yeah,
but
you
have
to
prove
it.
You.
L
He
said
he
has
his
insurance
card,
but
he
said
I
just
had
the
wrong
car.
Well,
the
first
car
would
show
that
the
person
has
insurance
or
don't.
Let
me
say
that
that
would
be
approved,
because
there's
some
people
that
get
in
the
car
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
they
stopped
the
payment,
and
then
they
got
a
card
saying
that
they're
insured,
when
they
or
not,
but
for
the
most
part
in
the
videos
they
have
a
card
generally
shows
that
they
are
insured.
L
O
F
State
law
requires
you
to
have
proof
of
insurance
right
at
a
traffic.
Stop.
If
you
tell
the
officer
you,
you
have
insurance,
you
don't
have
it
with
you.
It's
going
to
be
the
officer's
discretion,
but
the
officer
would
be
fully
within
his
right
to
say
if
you
can't
provide
proof
of
insurance
at
this
traffic,
stop
I'm
going
to
issue
you
a
ticket
for
driving
without
insurance
or
without
proof
of
insurance,
and
the
vehicle
could
be
towed
at
that
point,
pursuant
to
an
admin
tow
absolutely
right.
F
It
would
be
like
if
you
had
a
gun
and
you
had
your
gun
license
at
home
and
you
can't
provide
it
at
the
time.
That's
a
problem,
it's
there's
certain
things
you
have
to
carry.
If
you
didn't
have
your
any
id
on
you,
you
could
be
cited
for
no
ideas.
You
just
got
to
have
the
insurance
in
the
car
or
on
your
phone.
Even
digital
copies
are
valid.
P
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I've
had
two
friends:
they
were
hit
by
people
caused
accidents
to
get
damaged
to
their
vehicles
both
times
they
came
up
and
said
they
had
insurance
card.
They
gave
all
the
information
when
they
got
home
and
called
that
insurance
company.
There
was
no
insurance.
So
what
what
do
you
do
at
that
point?
Because,
both
times
it
seems
like
they
know
what
they're
doing,
because
they,
if
they
call
the
person
and
say
you,
don't
have
insurance,
then
that
person
both
times
has
called
the
police
and
said
they're
harassing
me,
yeah.
F
B
F
Q
Q
Q
Many
of
us
have
a
lot
of
personal
information
on
cell
phones
and
there's
been
a
trend
in
the
courts
to
restrict
access.
A
few
years
ago
a
police
officer
gets
a
warrant,
they
dump
everything
on
the
phone
they're
getting
more
particular
now,
because
people
are
getting
so
used
to
using
their
phones.
They
have
so
much
information
that
we're
gonna
now
get
access
to
stuff
that
we
probably
shouldn't.
So
they
were
indoctrinating
us
on
on
this
philosophy.
Q
So
we
also
had
an
opportunity
to
do
some
practical
downloads
and
extractions,
and
it
count
it
costs
the
county,
nothing.
The
federal
government
paid
for
my
travel
there
they
paid
for
the
housing
food,
so
it
was
a
great
great
course.
We
also
can
send
our
judges
there,
so
we
will
advertise
that
opportunity
when
it
comes
up
to
our
circuit
court,
judges
and
associate
judges,
other
prosecutors
can
go,
they
don't
have
a
class
yet
for
defense
attorneys,
but
if
they
do,
we
would
offer
that
up
as
well.
Q
B
L
Snipes,
all
right
did
you
determine,
did
they
determine
the?
I
guess
where
the
borderline
of
the
perimeter
is
when
it
comes
to
the
right
of
privacy
to
your
personal
information
versus
when
it
is
actually
confiscated
and
to
what
degree
the
other
side
can
can
go
before
they,
they
kind
of
meet
the
border.
Q
Yes,
they
did.
They
gave
us
some
examples.
For
example,
if
let's
say
you
pull
a
person
over,
they
have
a
gun
in
the
car,
but
you
don't.
The
the
gun
is
not
on
their
person.
It's
in
the
car,
oftentimes
police
will
ask
to
download
pictures
on
the
phone
to
see
if
that
person's,
holding
the
weapon
or
there's
text
messages
about
it.
Q
What
had
been
happening?
Was
police
departments
just
get
every
single
thing
on
the
phone,
as
opposed
to
specifically
looking
for
photographs
or
text
messages,
so
the
courts
are
now
making
us
as
prosecutors
and
making
the
police
use
more
specificity,
because
if
I
download
something
on
that
phone,
that
is
not
within
the
scope
of
what
I'm
looking
for
for,
for
example,
gun.
So
let's
say
I
find
child
porn
on
the
phone.
Q
Well,
you
have
to
stop
that
analysis
at
that
point,
get
another
warrant
to
go
and
then
search
further
or
if
you
see
evidence
of
other
crimes
in
the
past,
you
didn't
have
to
do
that.
You
just
download
it
all
and
say:
oh
wait,
a
second.
We
now
have
child
porn
or
we
have
evidence
of
other
crimes
and
they
try
to
use
that
against
the
defendant.
But
now
we
need
to
be
more
deliberate.
G
You
know
when
we
talk
about
all
the
different
crime,
we
need
the
cooperation
of
the
public
and
they
need
to
understand
how
charges
are
filed
and
how
the
process
is
facilitated,
and
mr
jones
is
going
to
speak
to
that,
along
with
the
chief
of
investigations
for
the
city
of
kankakee
and
another
matter
that
deals
with
public
health
rosie
jones
from
who's.
The
director
of
the
clinics
in
school
district
111
will
be
presenters.
So
I
would
encourage
a
lot
of
you,
folks,
your
churches,
relatives
friends
in
the
community
to
participate
in
this
project.
F
F
F
Not
a
grant
where,
like
they,
give
us
100,
but
we
have
to
give
them
20..
I
think
the
only
one
that
may
have
some
requirements
like
that
is
the
americorps
grant,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
and
that
we've
been
able
to
match
with
in-kind
funds
and
special
funds
like
drug
forfeiture
funds.
You
can
use
for
drug
prevention,
for
instance,
but
the
other
stuff
the
county
carries
the
fringe
cost
for
like
so
our
sex
prosecutors.
F
B
A
G
A
Yeah
well
july,
19th
we
got
the
building
back
open,
which
meant
public
service
work
was
open
and
operating
up
and
running,
and
it's
going
very
smooth.
We've
worked
with
judge,
cunnington
and
judge
nicholson,
which
a
lot
of
that
public
service
work
comes
from
their
courtrooms
and
it's
what
we're
doing
now,
though,
is
building
that
list,
building
that
pool
of
people
it's
taking
some
time,
but
it's
building
so
the
next
phase.
I
was
going
to
discuss
that.
A
A
A
B
A
All
right,
just
just
to
give
you
an
update,
we
talked
about
public
service
work.
The
building
is
open
again,
so
obviously
we're
seeing
everybody
before
we
were
working
under
a
directive
that
modified
all
supervision
standards
during
covid
they're,
only
seeing
the
highest
risk,
high-risk
individuals
and
we
were
getting
out
the
community
checking
out
a
lot
more
because
it
was
safer
to
get
on
the
community
to
do
it.
A
A
That's
up
and
running,
and
that's
going
to
you
know
working
well
now
so
we're
back
to,
and
the
only
other
thing
is
a
real
quick
update
on
pre-trial
that
I
give
every
month
there's
still
no
changes,
no
update
and
the
reason
I
bring
that
up.
Every
time
is
because
we're
sitting
on
three
vacancies.
We
can't
fill
and
soon
a
fourth
vacancy
yeah.
You
know
31
people
in
our
office
in
the
key
office,
but
we
can't
fill
it
with
this
uncertainty.
A
Anybody
that
we,
the
application,
pulls
thin.
As
we
know,
we've
talked
about
that
that's
all
over,
but
when
we
get
a
good
candidate,
I
have
to
scare
him
away
and
tell
them
that
in
a
couple
weeks
the
state
could
rule
this
we're
going
to
lose
these
positions,
and
this
job
would
be
gone
well,
they
say.
Thank
you.
A
No
thank
you
and
move
on,
but
that's
the
problem
is
we're
sitting
on
these
vacancies
and
vacancies
until
they
decide
and
then,
if
they
do,
let
us
keep
pre-trial
now
we're
back
to
hiring
four
three
four
five
people
all
at
one
time
and
training,
to
kind
of
starting
over
with
our
pre-trial
program
that
we
have
in
place
so
again,
no
update
but
I'll
gripe
every
month.
Until
we
we
get
something
so.
B
A
B
B
B
R
R
as
of
fiscal
year.
2021
we're
at
246,
so
22
less,
which
is
a
good
like
I
said,
is
a
good
thing
out
of
county
numbers
for
that
same
period.
Last
year.
At
this
time,
we
were
average
281
we're
down
to
about
252
right
now
on
an
average
of
30
less
per
day.
So
if
you
multiply
that
out
by
90
you'd
get
your
per
month
number
of
what
revenue
we
are
losing
so,
as
I
said,
doc
has
started
taking
more,
I
think,
we're
down
to
about
10
sentenced
inmates
who
are
awaiting
transfer.
R
R
Our
federal
detainees,
both
marshals
and
ice,
are
utilizing
video
much
more
than
they
have
in
the
past.
So
that
is,
you
know,
saving
us
a
little
bit
of
transport
money
as
well
as
still
giving
these
individuals
their
day
in
court.
If
you
will,
we
recently
had
three
individuals
in
the
hospital
at
the
same
time.
R
So
when
an
inmate
is
in
our
custody
and
has
to
go
to
the
hospital,
we
are
required
to
sit
on
them
over
at
the
hospital.
So
when
you
talk
about
three
inmates
at
the
same
time,
unfortunately,
depending
on
what's
wrong
with
them,
they
can't
we
have
in
the
past
gotten
inmates
in
the
same
room.
If
we've
had
multiple
inmates,
but
because
of
some
issues
they're,
they
were
not
in
the
same
room.
R
So
we
had
three
inmates
in
three
different
rooms,
so
that
was
six
staff
per
shift
that
were
sitting
on
those
inmates
at
the
hospital,
so
it
created
a
significant
amount
of
overtime.
Two
of
those
inmates
are
back.
One
of
them
was
the
victim
of
the
shooting
in
kankakee,
where
there
was
a
one
was
a
homicide.
The
other
one
was
who
was?
The
offender
was
also
shot,
so
he
was
in
the
hospital
as
well.
He
just
returned
the
other
day.
B
R
I
was
going
to
talk
about
the
second
part
of
that
report.
That's
okay!
It's
just
the
sworn
side,
one
of
the
things
that
we
actually
purchased
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago
right
about
the
time
that
covid
started
a
hit,
was
something
that
is
part
of
tyler
technologies,
which
is
new
world,
which
is
our
software
system.
It's
called
socrata!
R
It's
a
county-wide
system
that
every
municipality
has
access
to
their
own
data.
At
this
point
we
just
got
trained
on
it
about
two
weeks
ago.
They
actually
were
able
to
send
somebody
up
to
train,
not
only
us
but
other
police
agencies
in
the
county,
and
basically
it
is
a
system
that
allows
us
to
look
at
where
things
are
happening
when
things
are
happening
and
as
a
benefit
for
all
the
police,
municipalities
and
and
it's
county-wide.
R
But
if
you're
bourbon
a
you
can
literally
separate
out
the
village
of
urban
a
and
they
can
look
at.
What's
going
on
in
the
village
of
urban
a
we
can
look
at
what's
going
on
just
in
the
county.
So
it's
it's
very
beneficial
from
a
from
an
analyzation
standpoint
and
there
is
a
public
part
of
this
that
the
public
will
actually
have
access
to
to
be
able
to
see
as
well.
R
However,
until
we
get
fully
versed
on
it,
we
are
not
we'll
probably
release
it
to
the
public-
I
guess
in
the
next
couple
weeks,
but
there
is
a
public
portion
of
that
system
that
the
public
will
have
access
to
look
at
where
things
are
happening.
So
a
couple
other
things
on
the
report-
and
I
know
this
got
brought
up
earlier
and
I'll
just
mention
it
and
mr
lear.
I
appreciate
the
part
about
the
the
revenue
we
have
never
looked
at.
R
R
R
Last
year
we
had
13
fatalities
countywide
this
year,
we're
at
seven
and
as
I've
also
said
in
a
number
of
times,
one
is
too
many,
so
we
will
continue
to
enforce
traffic
and
try
to
keep
our
roadways
safe
revenue,
obviously
with
our
out
of
county
numbers
down
our
revenue's
down,
but
we
are
making
adjustments
with
expenses
to
to
offset
that
loss
of
revenue
as
well.
So
now
I'm
done
with
my
report.
R
R
There
were
no
non-compliances,
which
is
certainly
a
credit
to
chief
kyle,
wenzu,
chief
schultz
assistant,
chief
schultz
and
assistant
chief
merlin
woods,
who,
who
is
in
charge
of
our
downtown
facility,
as
well
as
the
staff,
at
both
jails.
They
do
a
tremendous
job
and
you
know
between
the
the
inspections
for
ice
and
the
inspections
for
the
department
of
corrections
and
inspection
inspections
for
the
us
marshals.
R
You
know
we.
We
are
proud
of
the
job
that
they
do
and
and
the
services
that
we
provide
so
the
list
of
improvements.
Obviously
you
can
look
at
those
yourself,
but
you
know
it's
significant
and,
and
fortunately,
for
us
those
are.
These
inspections
are
pretty
much
like
this.
Every
time
we
are
always
looking
to
do
best
practices
when
it
comes
to
corrections.
So
we
are.
We
are
definitely
out
in
front
of
a
lot
of
things,
so
questions
on
that.
R
E
Good.
Thank
you.
Mr
chair
line.
Eight
on
the
inspection
report
mentions
that
gender
preference
information
is
now
being
included
in
the
medical
intake.
Could
you
just
explain
to
us
how
that
affects
how
we're
housing
our
inmates,
knowing
what
their
gender
preference
is?
Is
that
including,
is
it
including
more
than
the
two
binary
genders
that
I
mean
there's
a
big
movement
in
society
to
try
and
tell
people
that
they
can
be
something
other
than
what
they
are,
and
I'm
just
curious
of
that
so.
R
R
R
There
is
not
at
this
point,
so
we
we
look
at
housing,
you
know
and
unfortunately,
the
design
of
the
jail
were
able
to
kind
of
separate
people
depending
on
the
issues.
There's
all
kinds
of
questions
about.
You
know
what
bathroom
you
use
and
I
get
all
that
we
don't
ask
that.
What
bathroom
are
you
going
to
use?
R
You
know
you're,
either
male
or
female,
but
again,
if
it
comes
down
to
the
background
of
this
person
who
it
is,
then
our
numbers
are
very
low.
We
were.
We
were
actually
requested
back
probably
10
years
ago,
because
it's
more
prevalent
in
other
places
cook
county
asked
us
actually
to
take
all
of
their
transgender
inmates,
which
we'd
respectfully
declined
but
yeah.
So
that's
that's
the
reason
that's
on
there
is
just
because
we
try
to.
I
was
just
curious.
E
L
R
Well,
I
g,
I
guess
the
easiest
answer.
Mr
snipes
is
that
right
now
we
have
males
and
we
have
females
and
we
have
males
can't
be
housed
with
females.
Females
can't
be
housed
with
males.
So
I
I
don't
I
I
guess
I
don't
have
an
answer
for
you,
because
it's
just.
I
don't
believe
that
it's
something
that's
going
to
happen.
Jail
standards
obviously
dictate
for
us
how
we
house.
So
that's.
L
R
On
yep
animal
control
update,
we
are
full
with
both
dogs
and
cats
and
for
those
of
you
that
are
on
the
arpa
committee,
I
I
did
request
arpa
funds
for
the
potential
new
building
for
that,
just
because
we've
got
people
tripping
over
each
other,
that's
the
human
side
of
it,
but
we
also
need
a
little
bit
bigger
facility
for
the
number
of
animals
that
we
have.
So
I
mean
that's
a
that's
an
ongoing
process.
It's
been
that
way
for
a
number
of
years.
R
Obviously,
covid
changed
that
a
little
bit,
because
our
numbers
were
way
down
during
covid,
because
people
were
home
people
for
whatever
reason
got
dogs
cats,
whatever
kept
our
kept
the
kennel
fairly
empty.
However,
with
everybody
back
out
whether
those
same
people
who
got
their
dogs
or
cats
decided.
Now
they
don't
want
them,
because
now
they
have
to
work
or
they
can't
pay
them
the
attention
they
need.
R
R
R
R
We
are
going
to
keep
them
in
the
same
housing
unit.
We
are
going
to
work
with
local
social,
social
service
agencies
to
come
in
and
give
them
training.
Mr
rowe
mentioned
that
they
don't
deal
with
the
abusers
or
the
abuser
side
of
it,
and
nor
should
he,
but
we
deal
with
that
person
while
they're
in
custody
and
while,
like
anything
else,
you
know
anybody
who
is
going
to
you
know
want
to
whether
it's.
R
Drugs
or
whatever,
if
they
don't,
want
the
treatment
they're,
you
know
not
going
to
pay
attention
and
they're
not
going
to
do
it.
However,
they
are
in
a
controlled
environment.
They
have
to
be
there,
there's
no
going
anywhere,
it's
not
like.
They
have
to
show
up
for
something
and
then
not
show
up
so
they're
there.
So
we
are
going
to.
R
We
are
going
to
provide
some
of
that
stuff.
At
this
point
we
don't
see
a
cost
for
that,
which
is
a
good
thing,
but
you
know
the
cost
right
now
is
police,
not
only
the
injury
to
the
victims,
but
the
cost
of
police
responding.
The
state
prosecuting
the
paperwork
to
the
clerk,
the
public
defenders
defending
so
anything
we
can
do
to
potentially
save
some
of
that
cost.
R
If
one
of
these
offenders,
who
maybe
is
in
this
housing
unit,
gets
some
training
and
for
whatever
reason,
never
does
it
again,
then
it's
a
win,
it's
a
win
for
our
community
so
and
we
are
able
to
do
it
because
of
our
lower
local
population
and
the
ability
to
move
people
around.
We
are
actually
going
to
do
the
same
thing
with
an
opioid
housing
unit
as
well.
R
While
they
are
an
attentive
group,
we
think
it
will
still
benefit
the
community
in
the
long
run,
so
we're
gonna
we're
gonna,
look
at
two
different
housing
units,
one
for
domestic
violence,
those
charged
with
domestic
violence
and
separate
the
opioid
users
as
well
the
the
attic
so
and
we'll
again.
At
this
point,
I'm
not
asking
for
any
money
we're
going
to
try
to
do
this
with
the
help
of
some
social
service
agencies
on
both
sides,
domestic
violence
and
opioid.
R
At
this
point
and
lastly,
the
illinois
sheriff's
association
has
for
the
last
year
or
two
encouraged,
our
local
or
our
legislators,
to
participate
in
ride-alongs,
and
I
can
tell
you
that
our
both
of
our
legislators,
representative,
jackie
haas,
just
rode
last
monday,
this
past
monday
and
senator
joyce-
is
riding
this
friday,
so
both
are
participating
in
the
ride-along
to
see
what
it
is
that
we
do
on
the
street
every
day
and
certainly
a
benefit.
I
know
that,
after
talking
to
representative
haas,
she
was
she
I
mean
she
didn't
change
her
mind
anything.
R
G
G
G
You
guys
meet
something
you
may
want
to
talk
about
and
share
that
with
the
respective
entities,
so
they
can
encourage
their
trustees
and
aldermen
to
understand
what
you
guys
do,
because
some
of
the
trustees
in
aldermen
have
no
idea,
and
I
underscore
that
no
idea
what
you
guys
do
and
their
only
involvement
with
you
guys
is
paying
bills.
And
it's
a
lot
more
than
just
that,
and
we
appreciate
that.
R
Thank
you
and
I
would
certainly
recommend
any
of
our
suggest
anyone
interested
with
the
exception
of
mr
fairfield
or
mr
long,
who
did
it
for
their
career,
but
you
guys
are
welcome
too.
If
you
ever
want
to
come
back
and
hang
out
but
yeah,
I
would
certainly
entertain
anybody
who
wants
to
ride
along
we'd
be
more
than
happy
to
have
you.
O
R
B
S
Eric
good
morning,
everybody,
as
I
mentioned
in
july,
we
anticipated
a
lot
of
movement
in
terms
of
finalizing
cases
and
that
did
occur
over
the
past
months.
A
lot
of
our
totals
have
changed.
One
concerning
thing
I
did
mention
last
month.
I
believe,
as
well
was
homicides
of
eclipsed,
where
we
were
at
in
2020,
already
see
we're
at
nine
right
now,
three
of
our
six
pending
cases
of
our
homicides,
so
we'll
be
at
12
for
the
year.
S
So
obviously
that's
very
concerning
positive
trend.
In
the
month
of
july,
autopsies
went
down
so
that's
helpful
of
the
125
deaths
we
had
in
the
month
of
july.
One
was
attributed
to
kovid
and
we've
had
one
in
august
as
well.
So
that's
pretty
much
it
about
the
report
there.
Unless
there's
any
specific
questions,
questions.
B
S
I
believe
yeah,
I
believe
you
guys
have
everything
in
your
packet
what
the
four
items
were
requesting
be
declared
surplus.
It's
all
part
of
the
old
x-ray
equipment
that
in
40
minutes
from
now
they'll
be
delivering
our
new
x-ray
equipment,
so
this
will
no
longer
be
needed.
Some
of
it
is
the
table.
For
example,
somebody
may
want
so
we'll
probably
be
able
to
sell
that
in
terms
of
some
of
the
other
equipment.
It's
mostly
going
to
be
used
for
parts
we're
just
going
to
see.
G
S
So
we
communicate
pretty
regularly
with
the
state's
attorney's
office.
They
have
a
complex
opioid
prosecutor,
I
believe,
is
what
the
title
for
that
person
is
sa.
Watson,
I
believe,
is
who
that
is,
and
so
obviously
they
receive
all
of
our
information.
I
know
that
they
talk
to
the
toxicologists
at
the
lab
as
well
to
have
a
further
breakdown
of.
What's
in
the
person
system,
our
doctors
go
when
this
case
goes
to
court.
S
They
go
and
testify
as
an
expert
witness,
so
we
are
in
regular
communication
with
them
in
terms
of
this
problem,
that's
going
on
in
our
community
make
sense.
Thank
you,
yep,
just
a
couple
other
things
quickly.
We
talked
last
week
at
the
arpa
meeting
for
those
who
are
involved
with
that
we
did
put
in
a
request
for
about
130
000
worth
of
equipment.
That
includes
the
freezer
that
we
mentioned
here
a
few
months
ago.
S
Our
current
freezer
holds
two
people
where
the
freezer
that
we
anticipate
going
to
will
hold
a
minimum
of
six
but
potentially
up
to
nine,
depending
on
how
we
set
it
up.
Also
included
in
that
proposal
last
week
was
for
a
new
autopsy
table,
an
autoclave,
the
x-ray
equipment
which
is
coming
shortly,
supplies
allocation
for
our
records
management
system
and
some
salary
reimbursement.
So
again,
all
of
that
is
pending
the
final
approval
of
the
finance
committee
later
this
month,
but
that's
where
we're
at.
S
S
Please
feel
free
to
come.
Do
that
the
new
one
yeah,
if
you
want
to
you,
know
if
you
want
to
come,
see
an
autopsy,
no
colton
you've
seen
an
autopsy
before,
and
I
think
it
would
help
give
you
a
better
perspective
on
what
we
do
and
why
we
do
it
and
how
our
office
flows
and
works.
So
I
would
highly
encourage
that
for
anybody
who
has
not
done
that.
S
S
S
28
bankers
boxes
full
of
records,
and
in
about
two
months,
two
or
three
months
time,
they
took
all
those
records
and
scanned
them
in
it's
now
on
a
cloud-based
software
that
we
have
access
to
and
there's
an
annual
subscription
fee
for
that,
it's
included
for
the
first
three
years
of
us,
but
we've
also
had
a
download
link
where
we've
been
able
to
go
and
download
all
those
cases
into
our
current
system.
We
have
an
excel
spreadsheet
of
all
those
cases,
so
we
can
index
it.
We
can
search
it.
S
Everything
like
that,
so
I'll
bring
some
pictures
in
next
month
to
show
you
guys
what
it
looked
like
before
versus
what
it
looks
like
now.
I'm
telling
you
the
quality
of
the
work
this
company
did,
was
phenomenal.
It's
actually
easier
to
read
the
records
now
that
they
are
scanned
in
on
a
computer
than
it
was
on
the
old
nasty
yellow
paper.
That's
been
in
the
basement
of
the
this
building
or
the
treasure's
office
or
wherever
they've
been
stored
throughout
the
year.
So
we'll
do
that
if
the
committee
would
like
and
keep
it
short,
I
think.
B
L
S
So
the
trend
is
definitely
down,
but
I
mean
that
could
change
it's
changed
before
so.
Okay,
if
you,
if
you're
interested
in
like
daily
updates
our
website's,
updated
daily
with
all
that
information
in
terms
of
number
of
deaths,
we've
had
coveted
deaths,
overdoses
all
that
type
of
stuff.
So
it's
a
great
resource
to
go
on
if
you're,
interested
or
constitute
constituents
are
interested
in
seeing
what's
going
on.
We
do
that
daily.
Mr.