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Criminal Justice Committee Meeting 9/15/2021 7:30 AM
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That's
again,
that's
a
huge
number,
that's
more
than
we've
had
in
years
past
and
we've
got
it
all
ready
halfway
through
september,
so
it
is
contributing
to
a
significant
backlog
of
cases.
We've
got.
We
are
in
courtroom
309,
for
instance,
where
we
do
the
majority
of
sex
assault
cases,
gun
cases.
Shootings
homicides
are
in
309
as
well.
C
We're
getting
trial
dates
in
april
of
2022.
for
jury
trials
and
really
the
reason.
A
big
part
of
that
is
every
every
other
week
pretty
much.
You
have
a
jury
week.
So
you
don't.
You
can't
do
a
jury
trial
every
day.
It's
every
other
week.
We
pick
juries
on
the
monday
of
the
jury
week
and
oftentimes.
There
are
16
cases
set
for
trial
on
that
one
day,
so
public
defender's
office
has
to
prepare
their
attorneys
may
have
to
prepare
for
three
or
four
or
five
cases.
C
Each
prosecutors
in
the
courtrooms
have
to
prepare,
for
you
know
some,
sometimes
all
16,
if
there's
one
person
on
all
of
them.
If
it's
the
first
chair
so
spending
a
weekend
preparing
for
16
trials
and
then
that
date
comes
up
and
maybe
it
doesn't
go
forward
that
can
be.
That
can
be
tough,
but
it
adds
to
the
backlog.
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I
know
that
you've
heard
it
often
but
there's
between
1200
to
1400
domestic
violence.
Misdemeanor
cases
pending
in
the
system
doesn't
even
count
the
felony
cases
kovic
contributed
to
that.
In
large
part,
you
had
a
period
there
of
almost
a
good
year
year
and
a
half
where
we
were
lucky.
If
we
could
get
a
trial
to
go
because
we
weren't
bringing
jurors
in
we
weren't,
even
bringing
grand
jurors
in
and
court
rooms
were
basically
shut
down
for
anything
other
than
emergency
motions,
bond
hearings
or
custodies.
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C
That
case
took
me
two
years
to
get
the
fiber
analysis
back
from
the
state
crime
lab,
so
we
just
got
it
earlier
this
year
and
stu
information
like
that,
I
you
know,
I
understand
they're
backlogged
at
the
lab,
the
labs
were
effectively
shut
down.
They
were
working
from
home,
actually
for
a
long
period
of
time.
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It
was
a
call
in
courtroom,
309,
where
we
took
a.
I
think
it
was.
What
do
you
think
had
maybe
150
cases,
probably
a
big
chunk
of
cases,
and
we
tried
to
see
if
we
could
get
them
either
resolved
or
get
firm
hearing
dates
if
it
was
a
petition
to
revoke
probation
or
violation
just
to
get
them
to
hearing,
and
we
were
able
to
clear
a
significant
backlog.
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Mr
peniwick
raised
the
idea
of
maybe
trying
that
again
with
with
another
chunk
of
older
cases
that
have
been
in
the
system
for
a
while,
it
seemed
to
help
the
judges
were
on
board,
so
went
pretty
well,
but
we
can't
do
that
on
a
regular
basis,
because
a
lot
of
these
cases
you
just
can't
you
can't
resolve
them.
You
know
if
a
sentencing
range
is
20
to
60
years
on
a
first-degree
murder
or
you
know,
potentially
up
to
life,
it's
hard
to
get
someone
to
agree
to
any
sentence
that
we
could
all
live
with.
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C
You
know
it's
like
musical
chairs,
sometimes
with
private
attorneys.
That
case,
I
just
told
you
about
where
it
took
two
years
to
get
the
fiber
analysis
back.
The
attorney
just
withdrew
and
a
new
attorney
came
on
there's
over
45
dvds,
in
that
case,
there's
a
significant
amount
of
evidence
that
they
have
to
go
through
reports,
and
you
know,
if
you
you
can
you
can
stop
and
yell
in
court,
and
you
can
scream
judge
set
this
for
trial.
C
It's
been
two
and
a
half
years,
and
if
the
judge
forces
defense
counsel
to
go
to
trial
and
the
state
wins
the
trial,
it's
going
to
come
probably
back
on
appeal,
because
the
attorney
said
they
weren't,
ready
the
defendant
said
they
weren't
ready
and
they
were
forced
to
go
to
trial.
So
you
know,
trials
can
be
fun,
but
we
don't
want
to
do
them
twice.
C
So
it's
there's
a
there's,
a
lot
of
factors
that
work
here,
contributing
to
this
backlog
we're
doing
the
best
we
possibly
can.
I
had
a
great
meeting
yesterday
with
chairman
wheeler
we've
got
some
ideas
that
we
think
might
be
able
to
move
things
along
a
little
bit
more
quickly
in
the
near
future.
Here.
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Yeah
yeah,
and
I
appreciate
those
comments
and
explaining
that
stuff
and
you
had
our
utmost
attention.
Looking
at
everybody's
affect,
can
you
can
you
describe
some
of
the
dynamics
in
terms
of
trying
to
resolve
some
of
this
stuff?
I
know
you
touched
on
a
little
bit
of
it,
but
can
you
acclimate
us
to
some
of
that
stuff.
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Well,
I
can
tell
you:
we've
had
a
number
of
cases,
like
I
just
said,
go
through
our
diversion
program
and
we've
not
seen
any
of
those
individuals
come
back
into
the
system
in
the
juvenile
court
system.
Sometimes
we
may
have
a
child
who
gets,
let's
say
a.
I
don't
know
a
retail
theft
right.
No
background
gets
a
retail
theft.
We
send
them
to
teen
court,
that's
not
to
say
they're,
not
going
to
get
in
a
fight
a
couple
months
later,
that
happens.
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You
know,
kids,
make
mistakes,
kids
lack
judgment
so
on
the
juvenile
side,
we're
looking
for
better
alternatives,
but
I
feel
like
on
the
adult
side.
The
diversion
program
so
far
has
been
pretty
successful.
It
requires
them
to
do
a
tour
at
college
if
they
don't
have
a
college
degree.
If
they
do
not
have
a
high
school
diploma,
they
have
to
go
and
learn
about
the
fact
they
can
get
a
free
ged.
C
They
go
through
an
educational
program.
They
have
to
do
community
service
in
the
community
where
their
crime
occurred.
So
that's
the
restorative
component
to
it.
So
there's
a
lot
of
hoops
for
them
to
jump
through,
but
we've
got
people
that
work
with
them
on
that
and
ultimately,
if
it
keeps
their
record
clean,
all
the
better
work.
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If
I'm,
if
I'm
remembering
correctly
and
then
yesterday,
one
of
our
employees
tested
positive
for
covid,
and
there
were
some
in
individuals
that
were
in
close
contact
with
her
are
on
quarantine,
so
we're
down
six
more
people
now
for
at
least
the
next
two
weeks.
So
if
you've
got
requests
or
anything
with
our
office,
just
you
know,
please
be
patient
and
give
us
some
some
grace
thanks.
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Certainly
new
members
yep,
mr
gallery,
we
met
this
morning.
Basically
we
do
the
best
we
can
to
keep
updated
statistics
as
far
as
what's
been
filed
what's
been
pending
at
the
end
of
the
day.
It's
a
question
of
you
know
whether
or
not
we're
moving
cases
since
you
brought
up
mr
hess,
I
mean
my
job
and
mr
rose.
Job
are
obviously
completely
different.
Different
duties,
different
obligations,
the
problems
we
have
are
the
same
throughout
the
state
throughout
the
country.
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You
know
backlog
and
and
problems
like
that,
but
I
do
believe
that
the
longer
case
cases
have
to
get
resolved,
otherwise
we're
just
wasting
our
time.
But
that
being
said,
you
know
we
have
different
duties
and
charges
as
far
as
you
know
what
we're
going
to
do
and
why
we're
going
to
do
it,
but
the
statistics
basically
are
just
created
so
that
we
can
see
what's
been
filed
and
what's
been
resolved.
Basically,
it's
that
simple.
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Just
real
quick,
you
can
see
we're
just
under
22
000
contacts
and
collected
a
little
over
200
drug
tests
here
today
currently
have
28
adults
and
juveniles
on
gps
monitoring
and
currently
have
270
on
pre-trial
supervision.
So
I
just
want
to
hit
those
view
unless
anybody
has
any
questions
on
the
report.
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F
Speaking
of
the
270
on
pre-trial,
I
reported
numerous
times
to
this
committee
about
that
the
state
was
deciding
on
pre-trial
supervision
going
forward
if
they're
going
to
take
it
over
or
leave
it
under
local
local
circuit
control
like
it
is
now
they
made
that
decision
last
month
that
the
state
will
take
it
completely
over
okay.
So
it's
amazing
it's
a
major
shift,
since
I've
been
there
in
the
27
what
years
or
whatever,
and
so
it's
the
funding
of
four
pre-trial
positions.
F
F
We
can't
leave
all
the
vacancies
in
probation
wide
open.
We've
got
to
fill
those
by
moving
those
people
from
pre-trial
over
to
those
probation
positions.
If
you
follow
me
on
that,
so
it's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
work
and
I
have
some
concerns
after
january
23
how
it's
going
to
be
handled,
it's
gonna
be
done
remotely
the
supervision's
gonna
be
remote
throughout
the
state.
D
F
F
All
three
options
were
some
sort
of
state
takeover
of
it
and
you
could
tell
by
hiring
and
different
things,
they
were
doing
that
what
was
going
to
happen,
regardless
of
you,
know,
a
board.
I
sit
on
an
advisory
board
for
the
supreme
court
that
you
know
we
sent
a
letter
and
had
a
lot
of
conversations
about
our
with
issues
and
concerns,
and
it
you
could
tell
they're
going
a
certain
direction
though,
and
it.
F
You
know
when
you
say
they're
say
they
have
10
vacancy
at
any
given
time
or
15
vacancy
rate.
At
any
time.
You
know,
they're
gonna
have
a
lot
of
moving
people
around.
I
think
and
when
you're
doing
it
from
a
distance
and
like
I
said
it
just
every
day,
the
courts
will
call
down
to
our
office,
maybe
regarding
pre-trial-
and
we
have
somebody
up
there-
somebody's
up
in
court
right
away.
F
They
handle
whatever
issue
and
and
make
decisions,
and
that's
just
not
going
to
be
not
going
to
happen
so
there's
I
don't
know
how
you
know.
I
don't
know
how
after
a
year
ends
it's
going
to
look,
I
just
I
just
don't
know,
but
it's
unfortunately,
we
have
four
vacancies
so
that
we're
not
looking
at
off.
Really
it's
like
some
counties
will
so.
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The
back
in
june
of
july,
we
were
planning
on
housing,
a
riverside
employee,
a
counselor
actually
was
a
a
person.
That
was
through
a
grant
that
mr
ro
got
talking
with
chairman
wheeler.
We
also
have
others
that
are
doing
providing
services
and
counseling
in
the
building,
and
he
wanted
the
insurance
company
ipmg
or
come
through
and
do
a
tour
and
safety
and
assess
the
building
for
safety
and
liability
issues.
They
came
through
a
game,
a
tour
met
with
them.
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F
So
the
plan
was
there's.
There
is
a
single
bathroom
up
in
an
office
upstairs
an
upper
level.
I
think
it's
the
old
coroner's
office
back
many
years
ago,
so
it
was
decided
that
it
would
basically
replace
the
door
in
that
bathroom
with
a
door
that
has
a
window
and
a
slot.
So
basically
we
could
you
know
they
could
observe
the
test
being
collected
away
from
everybody
else.
You
know
secure
the
sample.
F
Put
it
through
the
slot
and
give
it
to
the
officer
which,
also
with
you
know,
we
there's
many
times
that
cups
have
been
dropped.
We
haven't
anybody,
throw
urine
on
an
employee,
but
there's
been
times
where
cups
are
dropped
and
it's
you
know
it
splatters
the
best.
So
this
this
is
good
for
two
reasons,
one
and
especially
in
the
world
of
covid,
especially
we're
keeping
it
separate.
F
So
there's
we're
not
gonna
have
those
issues
anymore,
but
we
also
have
the
juveniles
being
kept
separate
from
the
adults
and
anybody
just
walking
in
the
restroom
when
they're
collecting
a
drug
test,
so
that
was
the
door
and
wes
went
out
and
met
with
psi,
and
this
is,
I
think,
probably
was
the
best
alternative,
best
option
of
a
couple
different
options.
They
were
going
to
put
holes
in
the
brick
wall
and
do
different
things
put
windows
in,
but
this
seemed
like
the
easier
of
the
two.
H
F
F
Yeah
well
because
of
cobit,
we
really
right
at
the
beginning,
we
start
contracting
out
having
drug
testing
done
off-site
for
the
adults
and
all
especially
drug
court,
which
you
know
has
a
high
number
so
really
the
adult
now,
so
we
have
very
few
adults
coming
in
doing
drug
testing
our
building,
we
do
have
them
and
we
would
use
that
so
yeah.
Thank
you.
H
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J
J
I
believe
we're
back
up
to
five
or
six
already
and
again
that
was,
it
was
a
I
think,
a
month
or
a
month
and
a
half
in
between
transporting
to
doc
they
did
idoc,
did
notify
the
sheriffs
that
there
was
money
budgeted
in
the
state
budget
of
25
million
dollars
to
pay
for
local
jurisdictions,
housing
up
to
70
a
day,
and
that
includes
everything
that
includes
medical.
That
includes
any
sort
of
cost.
J
J
J
J
J
Yes,
that's
well,
that's
that's
average,
medical
of
everything.
So,
basically
what
we
do
chairman
is
we
take
what
our
budget
is
with
our
average
daily
population
and
come
up
with
that
cost
of
you
know
it
may
cost
us
more
for
somebody,
who's
got
medical
issues,
but
it
may
cost
less
for
somebody
who
doesn't
so
that
hundred
and
two
dollars
and
I'd
have
to
think
as
we
as
we're
going
through
the
numbers.
J
Now
I'd
have
to
think
that
number's
a
shade
higher
just
because
of
everything
going
up,
I
mean
nothing's
going
down
at
this
point.
As
we
know
I
mean
nothing
ever
goes
down
20
years
ago.
It
never
goes
down.
So
so
just
an
idea
where
we're,
where
we're
at
housing-wise,
money-wise
and
and
just
a
follow-up
we've
got
19
and
and
again
that
first
degree
murder
case.
J
J
And
we
have
35
in
custody
right
now
for
domestic
battery,
so,
as
has
jim-
and
I
have
been
preaching
about
the
domestic
cases
in
our
cut
and
going
up,
we
have
35
right
now
that
are
in
custody
and
that's
that's.
A
generic
domestic
there's
aggravated
domestic
there's,
stalking,
there's
all
kinds
of
other
things
that
then
there's
a
reason.
These
people
are
in
custody
and
tom
talked
about
cashless,
bail
and
and
the
state
taking
over
and
my
gosh.
J
J
J
J
J
J
A
J
J
We
are
not
buying
the
computers,
we
are
buying
the
parts
because
they're
cheaper
new
parts,
and
we
have
somebody
who
is
building
those
computers,
so
we're
saving
a
little
money
there,
but
some
of
those
parts
are
not
available
just
because
of
covid
we've.
You
know
some
of
those
parts
are
hard
to
get,
so
we
are
getting
the
computer
equipment
as
fast
as
we
can
so
that
we
can
get
our
entire
department
updated
and
and
without
sounding
too
computer
illiterate.
J
We've
got
to
get
everything
up
to
64-bit,
as
opposed
to
some
of
our
computers
are
32-bit
so
that
we
are
able
to
report
crimes
to
the
uniform.
Well,
it's
it's
changing
from
the
uniform
crime
report
to
neighbors,
and
so
we
are
trying
to
get
our
system
updated
so
that
by
december
1st
we
are
able
to
meet
that
mandate
of
reporting
crime
locally,
so
that
computer
stuff
is
all
antiquated
stuff,
probably
10
to
15
years
old
has
served
its
purpose
and
we
just
want
need
approval
to
dispose
of
it.
A
A
D
D
J
I
can
tell
you
that
law
enforcement
in
kankakee
county
did
one
hell
of
a
job
special
credit
to
the
two
moments
officers
that
were.
That
happened
to
be
at
the
courthouse,
I
believe,
meeting
with
the
state's
attorney's
office
because
of
a
homicide
that
happened
in
moments
and
were
getting
in
their
cars.
When
everything
started,
you
know,
as
as
law
enforcement,
does
they
didn't
run
from
the
scene.
They
ran
to
it
and
were
able
to
take
one
of
the
individuals
into
custody,
the
two
others.
J
J
You
know
I've
said
this
before
about
the
cooperation
between
all
of
law
enforcement
in
kankakee,
regardless
of
department,
regardless
of
politics.
Regardless
of
anything,
we
worked
together
in
chief
pass
water
in
the
city
of
kankakee
did
a
great
job,
and
you
know
we
were
fortunate
that
no
innocent
bystanders
were
hit
because
we
found
bullets
everywhere
from
a
garage
and
the
towing
company
across
the
street.
A
couple
of
our
employees.
J
G
J
J
G
H
The
day
after
or
the
the
minute
that
staples
up
to
the
mic,
the
minute
state
police
was
done.
I
took
video
of
the
cars
that
were
shot
up
down
by
the
old
jail
and
sent
that
we
got
those
all
into
the
insurance
company,
one
of
the
cars
that
was
hit
across
the
street
by
the
journal's
building
over
there.
That
went
all
the
way
through
the
car
and
the
bullet
was
laying
on
the
the
hood.
Basically
I
mean
it
was.
It
was
amazing
that
nobody
else
got
hit.
J
H
J
I
Probably
in
line
I'm
probably
gonna
wait
to
do
business,
but
my
concern,
I
guess,
when
I
kind
of
heard
that
is
a
proactive
concern
as
to
is
there,
especially
in
that
cruelty,
sack
that
leads
to
the
courthouse
where
a
lot
of
employees
in
the
back
go
through
as
well
as
judges
and
the
whole
nine
yards
in
that
quarter.
Second,
I
know
we
have
cameras,
but
I'm
just
wondering
is
there
a
way?
I
know
there's
some
thick
plexiglass
or
whatever
it's
called
that's
supposedly
bulletproof
shields.
I
Because
if
anybody
was
in
those
cars,
we
would
probably
have
more
monstrosity
now,
but
to
start
thinking
of
the
public
safety
of
our
judges,
if
something
like
that
could
have
happened,
because
somebody
got
this
grunt
of
god
forbid
that
it
does.
But
I
was
thinking
about
the
judges
and
the
other
employees,
not
excluding
the
state's
attorney
and
he's
he's
a
superman,
but
everyone
else
is
in
that
building,
including
him.
I
wanted
to
see
if
there's
any
safe
cars
that
we
can
have.
J
Yeah,
I
know
that
we
have
talked
a
couple
different
times
about
doing
some
things,
whether
it's
been
in
the
courthouse
or
outside
of
the
courthouse
anything
outside
of
the
courthouse.
I
believe
and
chairman
you
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
believe,
has
to
go
through
the
historical
and
with
that
being
a
historical
building,
we've
got
to
do
something
with
it
on
the
outs.
If
we
do
anything
on
the
outside.
H
We
have
to
consult
with
the
historic
preservation
committee
right
right.
It's
a
good
relationship.
They
work
with
us,
especially
when
we're
doing
the
ramp,
and
we
had
to
kind
of
slice
off
a
little
corner
of
the
wall.
Instead
of
spending
another
650
000
to
move
the
circle
drive
down
about
five
feet,
yeah,
so
they
they
under
they
were.
You
know
pliable.
If
you
will
on
that
issue,
but.
H
J
And
that's
certainly
yeah
without
getting
into
the
whole
process
of
what
happened.
But
that's
I
mean
that's.
Basically
it
I
mean
no
guns
got
in
the
courthouse
and
and
when,
when
the
call
came
out
on
the
radio,
of
course
that
was
our
first
thought
because
I
think
the
actual
call
was
an
active
shooter
at
the
courthouse
and,
of
course
immediately
it's
not
our
thought,
isn't
outside
it's
inside.
So
you
know.
J
Everything
at
the
courthouse
you
know
internally
is
is
good
from
a
safety
standpoint
as
far
as
guns
and
anything
else
getting
in
the
courthouse.
It's
not
ideal,
but
it's
good,
but
outside
obviously
what
people
have
on
their
person
and
they're
standing
outside
or
what
people
have
in
their
cars.
We
have
no
idea
so.
J
A
J
Control,
oh
my
god,
animal
control
is
going
good.
I
think
we
are
working
on
our
budget
right
now
for
next
year.
Just
fyi
minimum
wage
is
actually
going
up
on
january
1st,
so
that
will
affect
some
pay
for
our
employees,
which
I'm
embarrassed
to
say.
So
we
will
make
those
adjustments
and
bring
those
to.
I
believe,
community
service,
but
otherwise
animal
control
is
going
really
well
and
kerry's
doing
a
great
job
with
it
and
the
officers,
the
animal
control
officers
are,
are
doing
a
great
job
as
well.
J
We're
close,
I
mean
this,
is
you
know
post
covet?
I
guess
if
we're
considered
post
covet,
I
don't
know
what
we're
considered
anymore,
but
you
know
during
covid
there
was
everybody
was
home
with
their
pets
and
there
was
really
not
many
issues
and
animal
control
was
about
empty
now,
as
people
get
out
and
about
all
of
a
sudden
people
start
neglecting
their
animals
and
they
end
up
getting
loose
and
they
end
up
in
our
kennel
and
so
yeah
I
mean
that's,
unfortunately,
that's
where
we're
at
right
now,
so.
A
A
K
Good
morning,
good
morning,
just
looking
at
for
you
being
new
here,
I
want
to
point
this
out
to
you
our
summary
report
that
we
have
okay
and
just
I
always
go
to
questions
afterwards,
just
at
the
bottom
line
there
it
says,
pending
and
right
now
we're
at
nine
pennies.
So
some
of
these
numbers
don't
add
up
to
what
meaning
that
their
cases
are
still
open.
A
K
They're,
all
in
fact,
just
right
now,
I
want
to
do
two
more
things
out
of
there
and
there
our
od
is
is
very.
Concerning
to
me
I
was
2017.
I
I
from
2012
on
to
17.
I've
been
warning
you
about
this
right
now
we're
we're
going
to
hit
that
very,
very
close
to
hitting
56
overdoses
again,
so
we're
at
basically
32
cases
right
now
with
six
penning
which
brings
us
up
to
about
38
right
now.
We
still
got
three
months
to
go.
K
It's
just
believably
every
other
day
we're
doing
something
either
in
the
autopsies,
wise
or
overdoses,
just
about
every
cases
and
you'll
see
some
of
the
overdoses.
When
you
look
at
that
sheet
there,
it
doesn't
match
up
with
the
32,
but
on
a
homicide.
There's
a
gunshot
wound
there,
even
though
they
they're
loaded
with
drugs
in
them.
The
cause
of
death
is
the
gunshot
wound.
So
you
won't
see
that
on
it.
So
our
average
age
is
at
44,
which
is
amazing.
Wherever
I
go
to
teach
they
always
say
you
know
18
to
20
to
25.
K
K
Fentanyl
is,
like
I
say,
80
to
100
times
more
powerful
than
morphine,
and
it
seems
to
be
out
there
quite
heavily.
It
just
seems
like
every
lately,
every
young
kid
we've
been
having
quite
a
few
irrationals
of
20
29
year
olds.
Right
now.
So
it's
very
concerning
to
me.
I've
talked
to
the
state's
attorney
about
all
this
there
or
where
we're
at
all
the
time
trying
to
keep
him
posted
on
all
that
stuff.
K
So
I'm
very
concerned
about
this
concerning
not
only
to
the
public,
and
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
narcan
saves
we've
had
that
could
even
push
that
up
even
higher.
So
I
always
I
shout
out
to
the
officers
and
the
ems
and
the
ambulance,
crews
that
and
the
ers
that
are
doing
that.
But
it's
concerning
me
right
now
that
I
can't
get
out
there
to
speak
as
much
as
I
want
to
speak.
K
G
L
K
K
D
D
I
guess
the
the
dope
salesman
or
whoever
the
dealers
or
something
put
something
else
on
the
fentanyl
as
well
too.
They
they
do
something
else
else
with
it
because
of
all
the
the
overdoses
and
stuff-
and
I
don't
know,
if
they're
how
they
manipulate.
You
know
the
the
the
fentanyl,
but
it
was
kind
of
interesting
to
see
that
stuff
on
tv
yesterday,
a
matter
of
fact
between
6
30
and
and
7
o'clock,
interesting
stuff-
and
they
were
talking
about.
You
know
how
deadly
that
stuff
was.
D
K
K
K
We
used
to
mix
our
own
chemicals,
and
this
is
the
way
we
were
able
to
it.
Wasn't
the
old-fashioned
way
where
you
put
it
into
a
pan
there
and
then
bring
it
out,
but
this
was
a
machine
that
we
got
in
2005.
I'll
go
ahead,
and
this
is
the
refurbished
machine
that
we've
got.
You
probably
see
him
at
the
hospital
every
once
in
a
while.
K
This
was
gotten
in
2005
and
it
was,
I
think,
15
years
old,
when
we
got
that,
so
that
that's
what
we
took
x-rays
with
go
ahead
and
then
they
came
out.
We
put
them
on
a
screen
there,
where
the
doctors
can
see
it
and
they
look
for
projectiles.
If
it's
a
homicide
case
or
something
like
that,
go
ahead,
and
then
we
upgraded
to
digital,
and
we
want
to
be
able
to
bring
out
the
pictures
in
a
little
bit
faster
time
from
2014
to
2021.
K
So
once
you
take
that
picture
and
from
the
machine
there
it's
taken,
it
goes
automatically
over
to
a
computer
within
five
to
six
seconds.
It's
up
on
the
screen
already
to
see
that
that
machine
there
can
also,
if
the
sheriff's
still
here,
you
know,
I
think,
he'd
left
it
can
be
taken
over
to
the
sheriff's
office
and
taking
a
picture
by
their
tech.
K
You
can
see,
that's
the
shot
to
the
right
is
to
the
left.
Is
the
machine
itself?
It's
very
very
handy.
You
can
pick
it
up
and
take
it
and
very
easy
to
push
around
the
screen
that
we
we
look
at
goes
on
to
a
same
size,
tv
screen
in
the
morgue,
where
the
doctor
can
look
right
straight
at
it
as
they're
doing
the
autopsy
and
down
below.
K
There
is
a
cassette
which
we
bought
a
case
for
because
that
cassette's
about
20
000.,
you
don't
want
to
drop
it,
so
we
we
made
sure
we
won't
drop
it
so
go
ahead.
This
is
what's
really
attractive
to.
I
want
to
bring
to
real
quickly
the
documents.
Well,
we
did.
The
paper
records
from
1960
to
2018
were
basically
are
the
amount
of
records
of
thank
you,
and
this
is
what
they
look
like.
K
We
found
them
in
the
courthouse
in
the
basement
downstairs
in
the
basement
here,
and
this
is
how
you
would
go
and
look
for
them,
and
you
can
see
a
lot
of
that
water
damage
where
you
can
hardly
tell
who
they
were
until
you
open
them
up
there,
and
then
we,
the
the
filing
cabinet,
what
we
had
over
here.
So
in
two
thousand
in
1983
to
2018
we
completed
in-house.
We
did
this
in
our
in
our
office
through
scanners,
that
we've
got
1960
to
1982.
K
K
All
that
stuff
is
cabinets
and
all
that
stuff,
as
it
says,
by
an
estimate,
almost
a
four-door
filing
cabinet
cost
you
about
a
thousand
188
dollars
per
space
per
year.
Just
by,
however,
they
formulated
that
glad
we
put
25
boxes
at
82,
500
pieces
of
paper
basically
cost
us
5875
was
the
cost
of
the
project.
Seven
cents,
a
page
off
we
went
to
this
company
was
a
little
nerve-wracking
when
I
did
that,
but
but
it
they
had
very
good
documents
through.
K
I
think
it
was
ups
that
took
him
there
go
ahead,
and
this
is
how
it
came
out
as
the
old
way
to
the
new
way.
So
you
got
a
case
we're
working
on
a
case
in
1958
right
now,
when
the
police
officer
called
me,
got
on
my
computer
sent
the
case
right
to
him
that
quick,
we're
working
with
the
state's
attorney
when
we
got
cases
to
be
able
to
throw
out
cases
right
back
to
them.
Is
that
quick?
K
You
give
me
a
name
jones
and
I'll
look
up
jones,
and
I
can
find
it
where
that
data,
where
that
data
death
is
instead
of
costing
three
or
four
days
trying
to
find
out
where
the
where
the
records
are
and
what
kind
of
condition
they
are.
This
came
out
pretty
good,
and
this
is
how
you
can
see
it
over
there.
On
the
on
the
top
left
there
we
well
my
eyes,
are
bad
nine
19.
What
is
that?
First,
one
kelly
on
the
19th
90
40
to
49
1940
49.
K
Other
than
that
you
can
see
on
the
top
right
has
a
copy
of
the
nms
files
where
the
toxicology
comes
from,
clears
a
whistle
all
these
reports.
All
these
pictures
that
we
had
came
out
perfect,
so
it
was
really
a
positive
thing
to
do
in
our
office,
and
now
we
got
a
big
space
now
where
we
had
the
sliding
doors,
I
can't
get
rid
of
them,
but
anybody
needs
them
other
than
that.