Kankakee County Board, IL Ethics Commission Meetings, 20 Dec 2017

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Ethics Commission Meeting 12/20/2017 11:00 AM

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Ladies and gentlemen, in the back we are going to start an Ethics Commission meeting now so you're you're free to stay, but you got to be quiet. Okay,.

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Okay, we can call this meeting to order you'll call the roll.

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Missile Chesky yeah miss Hodge doctored a key mr. Blanchard yeah. Mr. coy and gentlemen, we have one.

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The first order of business is public comment and since I chased them all away, there'll be no public comment right. Well, no, that's all right. You've been bad enough. Today, okay, approval of the minutes from September 19 2017.

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Everyone's gotten a copy and so I'll take a motion to to approve.

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A second please, all in favor aye all opposed no okay, then the minutes are approved. We're gonna have determination of the new members terms and they get to pick from the Christmas house.

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Yes, one-year term or two-year term. Yes, Graham, yes, and you are.

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Just for the record, mr. Coyer, mr. Blanchet terms are going to be determined either one-year or two-year, but it's going to be aligned with I believe it was November. Is that what we said may.

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Terms that you've already had so there's a consistent May comes we're appointing two or three members. However many it is each year, so it's not going to be different. I just want to clarify that they're.

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Good. Thank you.

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Right now you draw a number.

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And Mel you are.

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One year for Mel, planchette, yeah.

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Years, fire five 119.

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Two years, but just for the chief okay.

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Review of the ethics ordinance for Kankakee County for new members, you've gotten a copy of it. It's pretty self-explanatory.

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Do you want to review it or just let them read it?

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Is that all right Mel is that, okay with you yeah all right, then remember: new members will read the ordinance and there'll be a short test on it later on. Okay,.

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Whistle blower ordinance in violation reporting there is in this new ordinance a form and that a person with a complaint can fill out. We were given it in the packet, it's a two-page, Kankakee, County ethics complaint investigation form. It will be loaded on to the website the county's website, where it can be downloaded, filled out and there's. Thank you information on where to send it. The ethics advisor who is judge Wenzel. My will then go over.

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That will investigate it as to whether or not it should be followed, followed up right and then you will bring it back to the Commission and we will be made aware of your decision about it and what it's about.

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Again, in a little while since I've written it, but my recollection is, is you know, I do I'll receive the complaint. I'll do some preliminary investigation I have two alternatives. One I can basically say I find it to be unfounded. Nothing further is happened. I think I still required to report it to the committee to make them aware of it all right and but I'll give you an explanation as to why I feel that it's unfounded I I'm trying to recall does that still allow them.

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If they say no I'm wrong, they can still pursue it if they want to or is it yeah what I think would be the case, but then, if otherwise, if I say no I think we should proceed with it or you should proceed with it and then there's the whole process of what the Ethics Commission goes to right.

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I agree with that, but anyone have any questions.

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No I'm not giving him one you're, seven.

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The the the other possibility is is that if you know the committee will hear of everything you know that comes through here, they'll know that a complaint was filed and it's founded or unfounded whatever.

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But then, if there's something that's put through, that is an illegal activity, something that is not appropriate for this committee, something that would be sent to the state's attorney's office. You would still be notified that something came through, that it was the lesyk advisor determined that it looked more illegal than it did unethical, but you would still be alerted that something happened, but it wouldn't be specific until it goes through that channel. Am I correct a man.

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Just leave them on right, yeah, that's absolutely fair to say, as mr. Roe talked about in the first meeting here. Obviously we have requirements set to limitation requirements, so time is sometimes of the essence. Depending on what the complaint timeline is. So sometimes our office does need to get involved pretty much right away, such ones. Woman of course understands those requirements and illegal.

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Is probably going to be unethical, but unethical isn't necessarily going to be illegal? Precisely is.

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It true only in Illinois.

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Find that okay, you know, I think ethical things are illegal, but I'm, not a judge right good for the system.

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All right is there any other questions in this part of the agenda and the ordinance or the violation, reporting I.

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Was I was asked to address the questions of the chairwoman and I? Think we've addressed those concerns about filing a complaint and what the process like.

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Thank you me, the procedure so very.

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Good, so, unless anyone else on the committee has any questions about what I've addressed I think I've said my piece so to speak.

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I mean the ordinance didn't Lea specify I mean I created it. We can stick it on the website or it can be theirs too. All went into adapt, as the case may be. Moving forward, I'd I, probably lean towards that letter. You probably should adopt it and that way you can.

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Test it yourselves.

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Without my involvement moving forward right, okay, I make.

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One suggestion I think it looks fine, but yeah you've got three witnesses. Maybe there's gonna be more than three witnesses. Can you just put a line on there like that? A lot of times say if you need to list more, they lose feel free on the reverse side or additional sheets or whatever.

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But it would still be considered if they didn't put a witness down absolutely.

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Has anyone any questions about this form.

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When it goes to the judge, then it's confidential at that point considered confidential communication between the complaint and you and then it comes to us, but we would all be holding a confidential. Is that correct? Okay, I understand.

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Yes, I would think that we are required to keep our information. The question is: if this is an open meeting that is taped, then does that mean we cannot discuss it or we go into executive session I believe.

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That I'll leave the legal aspect of that too.

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I think the way you're thinking about is correct. You're going to executive to discuss a personnel matter, I can't remember the citation up top ahead, but then to make your determination, you'd come out and say yeah. We find this complaint valid or no. We do not right.

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Have the wrote publicly, the vote would be public okay,.

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Anyone else questions about this, if not I'd, entertain a motion to approve this form. Yes,.

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Other business.

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Part of the statute, it was going to be placed up anyway, I.

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It is part of the the ordinance that the form when we posted on the county website, so it's a requirement by county law anyway, probably should have put it on the agenda to make it cleaner, but I think you're you're on solid ground, so improve it today. If you'd like.

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Thank you, I, don't know too much.

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More emotional I am looking car motion, positional witness form spaces, okay,.

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I didn't give them this.

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What number did we say.

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It's moved that this farm be approved with the addition of the other witness basement right by mr. coy it's their second mr. Blanchet thanks seconds, all those in favor say: aye, aye opposed, nay, they're two passes. Do we have other business old business, new business.

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Adjournment, you can go the doctor Oh.

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Steve coy moves. We adjourn there. Second I'll second.

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Doctor jakey says second, our right: we're adjourned.