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From YouTube: Ethics Committee Meeting 9/19/2017
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Ethics Committee Meeting 9/19/2017 10:00 AM
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So
they
will
vote
hopefully
successfully
an
executive
committee
to
go
to
the
full
board
with
that
three
to
five
suggestion,
and
then
you
guys
can
make
whatever
changes
to
the
ordinance
in
terms
of
your
own
procedures
that
you
want
and
that
will
be
moving
independently.
So
we'll
have
two
separate
line
items
so
to
speak,
but
my
understanding
is
he's
on
board
with
that
and
most
of
the
executive
committee
is
an
approval
of
that
recommendation.
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I
needed
to
know
if
it
has
been
considered
in
this
ordinance,
which
contains
all
kinds
of
information
about
terms
and
numbers
and
definitions,
but
does
not
give
a
reasonable,
in
my
opinion,
explanation
of
how
someone
could
make
a
filing
with
the
ethics
commission,
and
so
I
wondered
what
we're
going
to
do
about
that.
I
mean
it
should
be
who's
eligible,
how
they
go
about
it,
a
copy
of
a
form
that
they
would
fill
out
and
a
way
to
submit
that
form
by
mail.
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C
So
I
believe
in
your
packet
I
may
reference
this
just
prior
to
the
start
of
the
meeting
our
office
prepared
procedures
when
we
were
just
trying
to
start
this
commission
back
up
again
in
march.
I
believe
that
was
that
I
should
have
brought
to
your
attention
last
time
around
and
for
whatever
reason
it
slipped
my
mind.
But
if
you
look
at
2-256,
that's
on
the
back
of
the
first
page.
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So
at
what
point
does
the
commission
and
have
get
information
about
this
community?
I
mean
you're
going
to
decide
mr
wenzelmann,
whether
or
not
this
is
a
legitimate
complaint,
but
would
it
not
be
under
the
purview
of
the
ethics
commission
to
either
accept
that
or
say?
No,
we
don't
think
that's
quite
right.
F
Am
I
my
microphone
you're
right,
my
understanding
of
it
is,
you
know
I
received
a
complaint.
I
conducted
an
investigation,
there's
two
aspects
of
it:
first,
jurisdictional,
which
I
have
a
question
about.
That
is
there
any
you
know
what
is
the
concept
as
far
as
jurisdictional?
What
are
we
looking
at
there?
We
get
get
back
to
that.
The
second
thing,
then,
if
I
find
there
is
jurisdiction,
then
is:
is
there
some
validity
to
the.
F
Allegations
in
the
complaint,
if
I
need
to
do
some
investigation
I'll,
do
some
investigation,
then
once
I've
had
that
opportunity,
I
will
submit
a
report
to
the
commission
saying:
yes,
I
think
we
should
proceed
with
it
or
my
recommendation.
Is
we
don't
proceed
with
it
by
sting?
They
still
have
the
opportunity
any
point
in
time
to
reject
my
recommendation
and
still
proceed
with
it.
Well,.
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Sorry
about
that,
so
it's
just
a
matter
of
it
would
be
recorded
and
later
documented
in
minutes,
but
it
wouldn't
be
released
until
the
confidentiality
nature
of
the
situation
is
has
passed,
which
could
be
that
next
meeting
or
it
could
be
years.
So
but
yes,
that
would
be
appropriate
to
go
an
executive
session
to
discuss
things
like
that.
Yes,.
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Not
willing
to
back
it
up
by
appearing
themselves
in
that
I
think
what
would
be
critical
is
whether
or
not
the
person
making
the
complaint
any
testimony
from
them
is
critical
to
the
prosecution
of
the
complaint.
That's
been
accepted
by
the
commission.
You
know
it
may
be
that
if
their
complaint
is
not
necessary,
then
maybe
they
don't
have
to.
It
may
not
be
necessary
to
disclose
who
they
are
in
that,
but.
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I
make
a
complaint
and
somebody
has
some
power
and
I
I
like
what
judge
is
saying
that
I
really
could
see
some
judgment
on
his
part,
whether
or
not
it's
released
or
not,
and
I
think,
as
you
indicated,
if
it's
integral
to
the
actual
charges.
That's
one
thing,
but
sometimes
somebody
knows
something,
but
it
wouldn't
necessarily
be
necessary
for
them
to
be
exposed
right.
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Of
our
ordinance
as
well,
which
does
protect
any
members
of
a
county
department
or
employee
or
department
head,
and
my
understanding,
I'm
going
off
to
my
head
here,
is
that
it
only
protects
accounting
employees,
though
I
don't
think
it
goes
to
the
general
public
at
large.
I
think
I'd
have
to
look
at
that
further.
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The
question
would
be
whether
or
not
those
items
can
be
substantiated
from
another
source.
I
would
think
if
they
could
be
substantiated
from
another
source
that
would
alleviate
the
need
of
that
person
to
be
present
at
the
hearing
and
disclosed.
If
they
can't
be,
then
you
know
there
may
be
no
way
around
it
right.
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You
could
have
a
situation
that,
let's
say
a
person
says
they
were
at
a
party
and
they
heard
this
conversation
that
may
be
all
they
know.
They
have
is
the
conversation,
but
that
conversation
may
have
provided
enough
detail
to
start
an
inquiry
on
our
part
and
may
lead
to
things
that
actually
substantiates
what
was
said
in
that
conversation,
but
that
person
yeah
may
not
really
be
critical
to
substantiating
it.
At
hearing.
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C
Going
back
to
dr
daki's
previous
question
about
having
a
union
representative
president
of
the
hearing,
mr
lear
pointed
this
out
to
me:
it's
sub
second
f
of
2-258
last
page,
basically,
pretty
much
says
quote:
if
required
by
any
collective
bargaining
agreement,
the
respondent
may
have
a
union
represented
present
during
any
hearing.
Okay,
so
sorry.
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F
Would
you
rather
have
the
additional
members
have
the
opportunity
to
review
this
new
draft
and
you
know
the
more
eyes
it
seems
like
that.
Look
at
these
things.
You
see
different
aspects
of
it
and
that
that
you
might,
I
don't
know
what
kind
of
impetus
that
the
board
feels
that
they
need
to
get
the
complete
revision
done.
I
know
they'd
like
to
get
it
done.
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C
So
my
understanding
is
that
the
change,
the
ordinance
that
goes
from
three
to
five
will
be
discussed
and
hopefully
pass
that
executive
to
the
full
board.
I
further
understand
that
he
wants
to
make
those
appointments
at
the
same
meeting
schedule.
So
I
I
think
andy's
goal
is
to
have
two
people
appointed
for
the
october
board
meeting.
Okay,
I
think.