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Finance Committee Meeting 9/27/2017 9:00 AM
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B
A
A
Okay,
no
presentation,
approval
of
minutes
of
august
23rd
they're
not
done
diane
had
a
couple
other
things
that
they
put
on
her
and
she
was
not
able
to
get
them,
but
she'll
have
them
done
as
soon
as
she
can.
There's
no
fault
of
her
own
trying
to
score
points
here.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
good
morning,
everyone,
as
you
already
know,
we
emailed
out
the
claims
report
and
there's
just
a
few
things
that
I
wanted
to
note
before
I
get
into
the
highlights.
C
I
have
not
seen
it
haven't,
heard
anything
about
it,
but
I
just
want
to
bring
it
to
your
attention
that
we
do
need
to
do
that
to
be
in
compliance.
The
other
thing
is
a
quarterly
report.
C
I'm
working
on
that
we've
had
a
few
issues
that
we
were
working
through,
so
it's
a
little
behind,
but
I
just
want
to
kind
of
bring
to
your
attention
what
I'm
seeing
based
on
the
information
available
to
me
through
august,
the
31st
it
looks
like
revenue
over
expenditures
won't
be
as
much
as
what
was
originally
projected
as
some
of
the
numbers
you
all
have
seen
by
my
estimates,
you're,
probably
looking
at
about
600
000,
as
opposed
to
over
a
million
dollars,
so
just
want
to
throw
that
out
there.
That's
what
I'm
seeing
the
claims.
C
C
I
have
requested
of
various
departments
for
things
like
cell
phones
and
vehicles,
inventories
so
that
we
can
verify
what
we're
being
charged
versus
what
our
inventory
shows.
That
kind
of
thing
some
departments
have
been
very
cooperative.
C
As
far
as
the
summary
reports
go,
you
can
kind
of
see
how
we're
trending
again
it's
a
cash
basis
report,
so
it
ebbs
and
flows
with
the
timing
of
cash
into
the
10122
account.
So
you
know
it's
pretty
straightforward.
As
most
of
that
stuff
goes,
I
don't
know
if
there's
anything
that
really
sticks
out.
C
Out
of
the
ordinary
here
so
anyway,
are
there
any
questions
with
the
report
itself
or
any
questions
that
I
can
answer
at
this
time.
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D
The
highlighted
areas
are
the
areas
of
movement,
this
particular
time
frame,
starting
with
the
auditor's
office.
He
has
lost
one
full-time
person
bringing
his
count
down
to
one
circuit,
clerk's
office,
hired
a
full-time
person.
So
now
their
account
is
at
34.
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D
A
D
Hey
the
only
other
thing
I
want
to,
let
you
know
is
mike
lynch
definitely
will
be
here
next
month,
so
we
can
look
at
the
bids
that's
coming
in
for
a
new
renewal.
So
that's
it!
Okay.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Messenger
series
with
a
second
and
that's
a
voice
vote
all
in
favor,
say
aye
all
opposed
okay
eyes.
Have
it
okay.
Nick
morning.
E
Everybody
just
a
few
items.
One
thing
I
want
to
put
on
the
record
right
away
is
state
statute,
says
that
I
must
take
training
and
be
signed
up
for
training
within
30
days
of
taking
office.
The
comptroller's
office
is
running
behind
the
illinois
state
comptroller's
office,
who
handles
it.
There's
currently,
eight
of
us
new
treasures
have
yet
to
be
registered
for
training.
E
So
I
just
want
that
on
the
record.
That's
something
we're
working
with
them
on
state
treasurer.
I
spoke
with
him
or
his
assistant
last
week
and
let
them
know
so
they're
working
through
it,
but
it's
a
call
I
make
every
month
and
hopefully
they'll
get
my
training
done
before
my
term
ends.
E
Don't
count
on
it,
the
chairman
says
I
tend
to
agree
with
you.
So
many
you
know
we
had
the
tax
auction
last
week
just
want
to
give
you
an
update.
We
sold
149
properties.
E
The
good
news
is,
we
had
about
15
percent
more
in
revenue
we
raised
about
812
000,
as
opposed
to
seven
hundred
thousand
the
year
before
and
we're
going
to
get
into
minimum
bid.
I
think
at
the
end
of
this
that
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
we
have
three
more
distributions
of
tax
revenue
around
october
5th.
E
E
I
guess,
mr
chairman,
the
last
thing
that
we
need
to
talk
about
would
be
a
minimum
bid
on
tax
sale.
I
might
spoken
with
chairman
wheeler
tax
sale.
Minimum
bet
is
six
hundred
dollars.
It
hasn't
been
raised
for,
I
think
2007..
That's.
E
Time
it
had
been
raised
a
quick
glance
through
what
sold
at
the
auction.
There
was
40
properties
that
sold
at
minimum
bid,
so
if
the
minimum
bid
were
to
go
up
to
750,
which
is
what
the
trustee
thinks
it
should
be,
which
basically
their
highest
rate,
that
would
have
generated
another
almost
seven
thousand
dollars
somewhere
in
that
area.
E
So
both
andy,
I
state's
attorney's
office,
graham
bruce's
office,
met
with
the
trustees
about
a
month
ago
and
had
a
lengthy
conversation
about
how
to
clean
up
some
of
our
old
tax
stuff,
how
to
squeeze
more
revenue
out
of
these
delinquent
properties,
and
one
of
the
things
that
came
out
of
that
right
away
was:
let's
raise
the
minimum
bid.
E
H
I
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
attend
the
tax
sales
regularly.
I
just
wondered:
if
there's
a
way,
can
you
tell
me
out
of
the
149
properties
sold,
how
many
were
empty
lots.
C
I
E
Infrastructure
improvements
on
them-
I
I
could
talk
about
that
with
the
trustee
and
come
back
to
you,
you're,
absolutely
right
about
that.
There's,
a
lot
of
properties
that
are
vacant,
the
land
is
vacant,
and
yes,
those
tend
to
be
the
ones
that
didn't.
I
think,
if
you
were
there
from
the
beginning,
I
think
the
there
was
a
property
in
bradley
that
sold.
I
J
I
E
Well,
I
agree
with
you
on
that
and
there
was
some
properties
in
a
subdivision
out
in
limestone.
You
know
those
as
well
and
the
back
story
on
some
of
these
properties.
Unfortunately,
there
are,
there
are
back
stories
on
them
and
the
tax
buyers
know
what
those
are,
and
so
they
don't
get
bid
on
even
at
600..
E
The
question
I
think
the
larger
question
is:
how
do
we
make
those
properties
beyond
the
minimum
bid?
How
do
we
make
those
attractive
to
potential
buyers
who
aren't
just
interested
in
flipping
them
or
interested
in
maybe
making
your
district
better
and
putting
something
back
on
the
tax
rolls?
E
So
I'm
open
to
looking
at
any
of
that,
and
I
think
that's
a
great
idea,
but
in
the
interim
I
would
say
we
absolutely
need
the
extra
150
and
I
don't
think
it
will
change
the
tax
at
one
bit,
so
the
properties
that
were
600,
if,
if
people
didn't
have
any
interest
like
in
limestone
that
they
could
have
been
200,
but
there
was
a
40
there's
a
40
000
price
tag
when
you
buy
the
property,
so
it
doesn't
matter
if
it.
If
you
gave
it
away,
people
wouldn't
take
it
so.
A
A
E
A
So
that
is
a
roll
call,
no
voice
vote,
all
in
favor,
say
aye.
All
opposed
motion
carries.
E
I
that's
it.
Mr
chairman,
welcome
mr
kinziger
thank.
B
E
K
Yeah
yeah,
we
had
a
good
month
of
sales,
ticks
I'll
go
through
the
reports
a
little
slower.
Today
we
have
a
couple
new
members,
welcome
just
we
look
at
these
every
month.
K
It
gives
a
monthly
total
and
some
historical
trend
as
well
for
those
that
are
interested.
The
first
page
of
sales
tax
is
the
total
and
the
second
page
is
broke
down.
We
get
it
in
two
different
forms
for
county
and
then
county
wide,
and
just
we
watch
that
trend
as
well
as
far
as
from
the
areas
that
from
which
it
comes
from
the
other,
is
to
note
that
it's
about
a
four-month
delay
from
the
time
it's
collected
by
the
retailers
to
the
time
that
we
actually
receive
it.
K
K
On
the
income
tax,
it's
still
trending
lower
than
a
year
ago,
however,
we
did
receive
two
payments
together
and
we're
now
caught
up.
So
some
of
you
may
remember
when
the
budget
went
through,
that
they
were
supposed
to
be
a
10
reduction
but
14
payments
instead
of
12
payments.
So
I
don't
think
anybody
knows
how
to
figure
that
out
of
what
the
actual
net
difference
may
be.
So
right
now
we're
current.
K
We
haven't
been
current
in
income
tax
in
years
so
and
I'm
going
to
back
up
the
sales
tax
one
one
one
item
that
I
did
call
the
department
of
revenue,
mr
lear
and
others
have
asked.
There
was
discussion
about
a
new
sales
tax
administration
fee
that
the
state
was
going
to
apply.
K
Use
tax
that
comes
in
it
basically
the
same
time.
Sales
tax
does
as
far
as
how
it's
distributed.
Overall,
it's
a
smaller
amount,
but
and
then
we
also
have
the
inmate
bed
rental
revenues.
This
is
the
bed
rental
revenue
also,
and
it
excludes
any
salary
overtime,
reimbursements
that
we
may
get
for
transports
from
them.
K
K
You
can
see
that
the
some
of
the
numbers
are
a
little
different,
but
it
this
is
more
of
a
revenue
report,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
of
how
things
land
in
in
the
system
and
how
we
report
it
so.
K
Still
trending,
obviously
very
very
well
and
way
over
what
we
were
a
year
ago,
2.4
million
today.
K
And
then,
as
far
as
the
regular
things
we
look
at
the
pprt,
I
I
been
made
aware
through
emails,
that
this
is
changing
for
the
state
fiscal
year
18.
and
I'm
still
calculating
to
see
what
our
portion
of
that
change
will
be.
But
there
will
be
a
change
in
the
pprt
moving
forward
that
we'll
have
to
plug
in
going
forward
in
the
in
our
f
fiscal
year.
18
budget
question.
K
Yes,
that's
a
corporate
replacement
taxes,
corporations
are
taxed
at
two
and
a
half
percent
and
on
salary
wages,
and
then
it
goes
into
a
centralized
fund
at
the
state
level
and
then
it's
distributed
by,
I
believe
it's
population
across
districts.
So
that's
what
that
is.
F
K
The
biggest
difference
in
16
was
because
some
of
the
from
what
we
understand
from
the
state,
some
of
the
pprt
went
in
sales
tax,
went
to
use,
tax,
went
to
pprt
and
it
went
to
the
wrong
funds
and
the
way
they
distribute
it.
Then
they
redid
it.
So
it
went
down
and
from
all
estimates
of
what
we
saw
for
this
year,
as
you
can
see
from
our
monthly
budget
to
what
we're
actually
getting.
K
It
was
supposed
to
stay
down
and
it
went
back
up.
So
now
it's
going
back
down
again,
so
this
one
has
been
very
difficult
to
figure
out
and
it's
hard
to
know
locally,
because
it
all
goes
into
one
central
pool
before
it's
redistributed.
So
there's
not
a
a
real
good
sense
of
a
local.
You
know
involvement
in
this
because
it
just
gets
pulled
together
and
then
redistributed.
So.
H
H
K
And
this
is
something
that
we
look
at
pretty
much
monthly
here
and
I'm
working
on
the
budget
as
well
before
I
spread
out
and
go
into
18,
and
we
look
at
the
next
round
of
thws
we're
just
now.
We
will
be
paying
our
taws
off
this
week
and
ending
the
2017
ones
and
then
we'll
start
planning
in
the
the
next
round,
and
part
of
that
is
the
levy
request.
That's
that
we'll
be
discussing
next,
so
the
the
update
as
far
as
cash
flow.
K
I
don't
know
if
there's
anything
that
jumps
off
the
page
at
me
to
identify.
You
know
it's
running
pretty
consistent
at
this
time
of
year.
You
know,
as
nick
mentioned,
you
know,
there's
there's
additional
property
tax
distributions.
You
know
to
come
and
these
estimates
may
not
be
exactly
how
it
happens.
K
These
are
from
previous
years
and
and
that's
okay,
but
as
far
as
it
does
add
up
to
the
total,
and
then
we
also
not
only
of
our
taw
paybacks,
but
we
also
have
bond
payments
from
the
distribution
to
pay
late
october
into
november,
as
those
are
due
december
1st.
So
the
one
one
question
that
we
had
is
a
good
question,
but
I
wanted
to
identify
it'll
go
into
other
conversation
that
we're
going
to
have
here
is
the
accounts.
K
Payable
is
not
dropping
quite
as
much
as
it
has
in
the
past,
and
the
one
reason
for
that
is
we're
in
current
we're
currently
in
negotiations
with
will
county
on
our
juvenile
detention
center,
and
some
of
those
payments
are
just
sitting
on
the
books
and
and
in
lieu
of
those
communications,
so
we'll
get
into
that
in
just
a
second
a
little
bit
deeper.
But
that's
one
reason
why
the
the
payables
are
not
dropping.
K
We
are
at
60
days
right
now
with
our
vendors
we're
caught
up
with
911
in
that
aspect.
So,
overall
you
know
we're
we're
in
pretty
good
shape.
So
that
is
not
a
complete
indication.
It
is
on
the
books,
but
we're
we're
in
communication
and
negotiation
with
will
county
so
that
that
number
is
going
to
hang
there
until
we
get
that
figured
out
in
the
very
near
future.
So
I
mean
I'll
go
into
that
here
in
just
a
second
on
behalf
of
chairman
wheeler.
A
Anybody
have
any
questions
I
just
had
one
our
last
for
august,
the
bed
rental
was
734
000.,
correct.
A
K
That's
the
difference,
that's
the
difference
with
the
that's
where
the
salary
in
overtime.
K
Difference
on
the
cash
flow
inmate,
bed
rental,
I've
added
with
the
transports
is
that
amount
for
for.
K
A
A
G
G
A
H
K
K
Okay,
yeah
you,
if,
for
some
of
you,
you'll
you'll
notice,
we're
a
little
bit
higher
in
our
request
this
year
we
probably
haven't
been
in
this
range
since
about
2007
due
to
when
the
economy
changed,
and
you
know
the
av
actually
went
down
cpi
being
low
and
the
factors
that
go
into
the
ptel
model.
K
This
is
probably
the
first
year
since
then
that
we're,
actually,
you
know
able
to
capture
roughly
it
looks
like
about
three
and
a
half
percent
is
possible
so,
where
the
request
comes
in
is,
if
you
don't
ask
for
it,
then
you
can't
get
it
as
when
the
calculations
all
come
through
in
in
the
springtime,
so
we've
upped
the
request
for
all
the
funds,
and
it
is
under
the
five
percent
limit
through
the
ptel
process.
K
If
you
go
over
five
percent
request,
then
you
have
to
have
a
truth
and
taxation
hearing
and
go
through
that
process.
So
we
are
under
that,
and
I
believe
this
will
capture
what
will
be
available
to
us
when
all
the
numbers
are
finalized
in
the
springtime.
K
So
one
other
important
factor
for
this
request
for
us
is
this:
once
this
is
approved
by
the
board,
then
we
are
ready
to
discuss
next
year's
taw,
because
the
the
this
is
what
what
the
lien
gets
put
on,
if
you
will
for
the
tax
anticipation
warrants,
is
on
this
levy
request
and
what
and
what
is
set
up
for
next
year's
tax
cycle.
K
So
that's
an
overview.
I
can
go
in
a
lot
more
detail
how
this
works.
I
did
it
three
times
because
I
haven't
seen
these
numbers
in
so
long
that
I
want
to
make
sure
I
was
not
missing
something.
So
it
was
a
nice
surprise,
but
so
as
far
as
the
distribution,
so
obviously
we
all
know
the
shape
the
general
fund
is
in.
So
it's
at
you
know
at
a
higher
percent
and
then
chairman
wheeler,
with
discussions
with
the
vac
and
and
from
past
tax
levies.
K
The
vac
got
lowered
a
number
of
years
ago
when
it
did
go
down
so
that
the
other
funds
could
take
more.
They
have
used
up
not
all
of
their
fund
balance,
but
a
lot
of
their
fund
balance,
and
now
we
need
to
start
changing
that
and
go
back
to
to
help
them
and
that's
what
this
reflects
as
well
in
adjusting
that,
because
they
were
adjusted
a
few
a
few
years
back.
So
the
other
funds
are
pretty
self-explanatory,
but
those
are
the
main
ones.
K
So,
if
there's
any
other
detailed
questions
on
that,
this
will
need
to
go
to
the
board.
A
Okay,
we
have
a
motion,
and
a
second
by
mr
washington
to
approve
the
2017
levy,
request
any
discussion
on
that.
I
just
had
a
question
steve.
When
we
talk
about
that
five
percent
threshold,
that's
a
total
of
all
accounts.
It's
a
total
of
all!
It's
not
no
right.
We
would
have
went
over
on
the
corporate,
but
we
can't
go
over
on
a
corporate
because
we're
limited
to
25
cents,
correct.
A
G
A
Anybody
else
have
any
questions
on
it.
Okay,
we
have
a
roll
call
vote
by
the
way
this
was
approved
in
committee.
K
Just
a
couple
of
updates
well
and
also
well,
we
can
go
back
when
we
go
back
attached,
an
appraisal
that
came
in
yesterday
just
to
give
a
little
history.
Chairman
whaley
wanted
to
give
you
a
little
history
of
what's
going
on
jim
roh,
tom
lathan
and
myself,
or
up
at
will
county
this
past
friday
with
a
second
meeting
of
negotiation,
chairman
wheeler
was
not
able
to
make
it
that
day
for
prior
commitment,
the
with
negotiating.
K
You
know,
potentially
ending
the
current
agreement
that
we
have
of
we're
currently
25
percent
owners
with
will
county.
This
has
been
going
on
for
20
years.
The
bond
is
now
finished
and
and
so
we're
we're
exploring
the
idea
of
like
a
buyout
option
and
then
just
become
a
regular
renter
of
the
beds
instead
of
an
owner
of
the
beds.
I
guess,
if
you
will,
and
one
of
the
first
steps
that
we
all
agreed
to
was
to
get
an
appraisal
completed.
K
So
what
we
have
here
is
an
appraisal
from
industrial,
a
bid
for
that.
A
proposal
for
that
we
did
make
contact
yesterday
with
a
second
appraisal
company.
I'm
pronouncing
this
right,
but
her
guinness.
I
believe
an
associate
at
a
downers
grove
and
when
I
called
up
there
to
talk,
I
talked
to
the
ceo
and
charles
and
he
is
already
working
on
that
with
industrial
appraisals.
So
the
two
that
we
picked
find
out
that
they're
working
together.
K
So
I
guess
that's
a
good
sign
so
chairman
wheeler
wanted
to,
even
though
it's
not
on
as
a
voting
item
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you're,
aware
of
the
in
the
discussion
and
and
and
to
whatever
level
that
we
can.
You
know,
bless
that
we
keep
going
with
this.
Will
county
likewise,
is
getting
their
own
appraisal
where
we're
going
to
come
together,
see
how
close
or
far
apart
they
are,
and
then,
if
we
need
to
get
a
third
one
pick
and
get
a
third
one
if
needed.
K
So
they
seem.
You
know
open
to
to
this
idea.
You
know
exploring
you
know
this
going
forward,
so
we're
pursuing
this
and
trying
to
you
know,
figure
out
a
potential
change,
so
we're,
but
both
counties
are
interested
in
trying
to
get
this
done
to
potentially
have
a
change
for
december
first,
so
that
we
both
can
plug
it
into
our
our
budgets.
So
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
in
a
short
period
of
time.
K
If
we
were
to
do
that
by
december
and
get
this
done
by
december
1st.
So
so
I
don't
know,
if
there's
any
discussion,
let's
try
to
give
an
overview,
and
if
we,
you
know
okay,
to
go
ahead
and
start
this
appraisal
process
on.
A
L
K
Yeah
there's
two
parts,
the
the
operational
part
of
running
the
facility,
and
then
there
was
with
the
bond
payment.
There
was
also
an
operation
maintenance
and
o
m
account
that
for
capital
type
of
needs
and
improvements
and
and
things
for
the
facility.
So
there's
there's
kind
of
two
two
different
angles
to
it:
that
we're
working
on
you
know
going
forward
so.
K
Yes,
a
couple
years
ago
years
ago,
you'll
remember
that
we
received,
I
think
it
was
a
million
one
from
that
account
it
had
built
up
to
about
2.6
million
dollars
at
one
time
currently
is
the
they
have
they're
checking
to
see
what
other
ongoing
things
they
have.
So
we
can,
you
know,
get
a
cut
off
number
a
solid
number,
but
we're
about
480
000
right
now.
As
far
as
the
the
remaining
balance
of
the
rounded
number.
L
L
A
And
mike
you
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
the
old
jail,
we
had
to
separate
those
juveniles
from
the
adult
population
in
the
old
jail,
and
we
just
couldn't
do
it
and
you
know,
have
room
for
our
adult
population,
so
we
were
shipping
them
all
over
the
state.
I
mean
they
were
going.
It
was
ridiculous
and
it
was
costing
us
a
fortune
and
then,
at
that
time
we
it
was
kind
of
an
innovative
idea.
A
I
believe
that
two
counties
went
in
together
on
a
facility
and
it
worked
out
great
for
us,
but
now
it's
going
the
other
way
where
we
only
have
eight
people
there
and
it
may
be
better
off
cost
wise
for
us
to
go
ahead
and
get
out
of
that
arrangement.
You
know
and
then,
as
we
get
juveniles
and
we
gotta
transfer
them
we'll
just
pay
the
rental
fee.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
do
we
have
any
idea
what
they
plan
on
charging
us
is
if
this
moves
forward
and
we're
renters,
that
figure
has
not
been
addressed
yet.
A
Tom,
you
may
know
the
average
cost
of
juveniles.
Do
you
anywhere
yeah
daily
right.
A
A
N
A
K
K
K
But
I
don't
know
if
that
there
we'll
have
to
see
their
how
open
they
will
be
than
writing
any
or
you
know
what
size
check
to
us
if
it
comes
down
to
that,
so
just
sharing
a
little
bit
of
their
feeling
and
going
forward,
but
they're
open
to
taking
a
look
at
all
of
this.
So
this
is
one
of
the
processes
to
get
done
right
now,
so.
I
M
Thanks,
mr
chairman,
I
didn't
read
the
the
contract
through.
Are
we
splitting
the
50
50
on
the
appraisal.
K
K
Yeah,
the
only
other
thing
I
just
wanted
to
bring
up
in
in
lieu
of
this
ongoing
negotiation,
the
we're
working
on
the
budget,
we've
communicated
out
all
the
special
funds
to
the
departments
and
and
we're
currently
getting
in
any
new
requests
for
2018
for
general
fund
departments.
So
we're
pulling
all
that
together
and
one
one
item
that
will
probably
affect
it.
You
know
it
has
the
potential
to
affect
it
in
a
in
a
large
way
is
potentially
this
negotiation.
K
So
I
think
originally
chairman
wheeler,
wanted
to
budget
a
draft
here
and
at
the
october,
finance
and
possibly
you
know,
go
to
the
november
board,
but
with
the
negotiation
at
will
county,
I'm
thinking
that
we're
probably
going
to
go
into
november
and
may
have
to
have
some
special
meetings
in
november
to
finish
up
the
budget.
So
just
just
an
fyi,
you
know
we're
it's
it's
in
in
well
in
the
works,
it's
just
you
know,
there's
there's
some
a
lot
of
things,
especially
this
will
county
thing
going
on.
K
Get
us
a
million
what
we
know
right
now.
Yes,
it'll
be
we
had
three
million
this
year,
two
million
for
eighteen,
yeah
and
and
unless
additional
you
know,
discussion
changes.
Yes,.
A
O
Good
morning
it's
just
an
update,
as
as
we
always
do
and
and
a
lot
of
this
is
shared
with
the
criminal
justice
committee
as
well,
but
I
think
it's
important
that
the
finance
committee
is
aware
as
as
well
our
ice
numbers
as
you
can
see
on
your
list.
O
O
One
thing
to
keep
in
mind,
though,
if
you
look
at
what
steve
passed
out
with
the
inmate
bed
rental
and
you
look
back
to
2013,
where
we
brought
in
ten
thousand
ten
million
six
hundred
and
thirty
four
thousand
dollars.
That
number
was
about
as
high
as
we
could
be
from
an
inmate
standpoint,
and
I
think
we
fell
into
somewhat
of
a
trap
because
particular
board
members
felt
like
we
could
always
bring
in
more.
And
if
you
don't
have
beds
you
can't
bring
in
more.
O
In
addition
to
that,
our
local
numbers
are
up
we're
averaging
over
250
local
inmates.
Right
now
we
still
have.
Obviously
our
first
responsibility
is
to
kankakee
county.
So
you
know
that
is
important,
that
we
keep
that
number
in
mind
as
well.
O
So
the
best
case
scenario
would
be
that
whatever
construction
is
required
for
that
area
gets
paid
for
by
somebody
other
than
kankakee
county
and
that's
what
we're
looking
for,
and
we
have
had
a
couple
inquiries
about
that
area
and
what
it
can
be
used
for
and
so
we're
staying.
On
top
of
that
any
questions
on
the
ice
numbers.
Mr
has.
L
O
But
most
importantly,
though,
I
think
we,
you
know,
our
relationship
with
ice
is
good.
I
I
I'm
in
contact
with
the
chicago
office,
two
or
three
times
a
week
and
and
stay
on
top
of.
You
know
what
their
expectations
are
of
us,
so
they
are
well
aware
of
that
phase.
Three,
and
you
know
it's
just
a
matter
of
at
some
point,
there's
going
to
be
a
need
for
it.
We
just
don't
know
when,
but
we
will
stay
on
top
of
that.
So.
A
Mr
cyril,
five,
four
three.
J
J
A
O
700,
so
we're
right
around
right
now,
we're
I'll,
say
ballpark
right
now
or
about
5
30.
okay.
But
if
you
give
me
a
second
while
I
talk,
I
can
check
my
phone
and
give
you
what
actually
today's
numbers
are.
O
O
L
You
jeremy,
mike
back
when
I
was
on
this
committee
before
in
that
phase
three
discussion
was
increasing
the
thickness
of
the
airport
runway
because
we
have
actually
a
long
enough
runway
longer
than
midway
right
is
that
in
the.
O
Thing:
that's
three
planes.
That's
still
it's
not
in
the
phase
three
plans,
it's
something
separate
that
actually
they're
working
on
now
and
and
as
we've.
You
know
as
I
like
to
tell
people
we're
not
looking
at
that
airport
issue
as
an
issue
just
strictly
for
ice
or
for
the
jail
we're
looking
at
that
as
a
community
issue
that
benefits
everybody
with
the
6,
000,
interchange
and
everything
else.
L
O
One
thing
I
mentioned
that
the
criminal
justice
meeting
that
I'll
give
you
a
heads
up
on.
We
are
looking
at
the
possibility
of
outdoor
recreation
at
the
jail
out
of
jerome
combs.
O
It
would
make
us
a
lot
more
attractive
to
ice.
Outdoor
wreck
is
very
important
to
not
only
to
ice
but
to
the
ones
that
are
opposed
to.
You
know
housing
these
detainees,
so
we
are
looking
at
that
option.
O
We
are
trying
to
keep
the
price
as
low
as
we
possibly
can,
at
least
when
we
come
back
to
this
board
or
this
committee
trying
to
keep
the
price
low,
but
yet
maintain
still
maintain
security.
So
you
know
both
inside
and
the
perimeter.
So
we
will.
We
will
do
our
best
to
kind
of
manage
that
and
keep
the
price
as
best
we
can
when
we,
when
we
get
when
we
get
so
we
have
some
inquiries
right
now
and
we
are
working
on
getting
some
prices
that,
hopefully
we
can
have
for
you
next
month
or
so.
O
O
The
bill
that
the
governor
signed
did
not
make
illinois
a
sanctuary
state,
even
though
I
think
people
still
talk
about
illinois
being
a
sanctuary
state
it.
What
it
does
is
it
just
limits
local
law
enforcement
and
enforcing
ice
and
arresting
illegal
immigrants
based
on
whether
they're
legal
or
not?
It's
not
a
it's,
not
anything
that
says
that
we're
not
going
to
have
ice
and
that
I
still
can't
arrest
people
who
have
detainers,
who
are
here
illegally.
So
just
a
heads
up
on
that.
O
It's
like,
I
said
the
governor
signed
it
and
it
was
entered
in
the
law
immediately.
So
and
lastly,
I
shared
this
with
the
commit
criminal
justice
committee
as
well
by
this
time
next
month.
We
hope
to
have
two
new
deputies
hired.
We
have
gone
through
our
process
and
have
some
good
quality
candidates.
O
In
addition,
we
are
possibly
losing
three
in
fiscal
year
18
to
retirement,
so
you
know
by
hiring
laterals,
I
think,
is
a
benefit
to
us,
because
we
don't
have
to
send
them
to
training
and
depending
on
where
they're
from,
if
they're
local
laterals,
they
know
the
area
pretty
well,
they
know
the
players
which
is
again
a
benefit
to
us
as
well.
So
just
a
heads
up
on
that
and
that's
all
I
have
anybody.
P
Good
morning
at
the
criminal
justice
meeting,
I
kind
of
went
into
detail
about
the
situation
with
the
public
defender's
office
and
basically.
P
We
don't
want
to
have
a
situation
where
we
have
to
hire
outside
counsel.
I
don't
it.
You
know
it's
a
nightmare
for
me
to
think
that
we're
not
doing
a
proper
job
and
some
young
kid's
gonna
go
to
prison
for
five
years
for
something
he
didn't
do.
P
I
don't
want
my
assistant
public
defenders
to
be
overwhelmed
and
feel
like
I'm
gonna.
I
can
make
more
money
in
the
private
sector.
I
don't
need
this
public
defender
job
and
quit,
and
that
would
give
rise
to
a
serious
situation.
We
also
don't
want.
We
want
to
maintain
standards
where
we
don't
have
accusations
of
ineffective
assistance
of
counsel.
That's
a
very
important
thing
for
us.
P
So
you
know
I've
been
watching
the
statistics
of
how
our
felony
caseload
has
been
increasing.
Over
the
last
three
years,
I've
been
the
chief
public
defender
for
two
years.
I've,
you
know,
got
some
a
lot
of
experience
working
up
at
the
courthouse
and
the
public
defender's
office
over
the
years.
P
So
I
think
we
need
to
reinforce
a
little
bit
now
so
that
we
can
avoid
a
crisis
in
the
future,
and
what
I
would
like
to
propose
is
that
I
don't
feel
this
is
anything
drastic,
but
right
now
I
think
we
need
another
administrative
assistant
secretary
and
we
need
a
an
investigator
and,
on
top
of
that,
increased
caseload
through
the
efficient
use
of
state
and
federal
grants,
the
state's
attorney
was
able
to
hire
four
additional
prosecutors
and
an
investigator,
so
we
just
want
to
keep
it
within
reason,
the
balance
and
the
resources
that
we
have
available
for
the
public
defender's
office.
P
The
investigator
is
important
because
out
of
250
local
inmates
at
the
key
county
jail
out
of
250,
I
would
say-
probably
150
of
those
are
represented
by
the
public
defender's
office.
I
have
12
assistant
public
defenders,
most
of
the
people
down
at
the
jail
want
to
review
their
police
reports.
They
want
to
look
at
the
evidence
and
I
don't
blame
them.
I
would
also
want
to
take
a
look
at
it
by
having
an
investigator
that
investigator
can
go
down
and
show
the
reports
and
sit
with
the
client
while
he
reviews
them.
P
Unfortunately,
in
illinois,
the
law
is
that
we
have
to
keep
those
reports
in
our
custody.
We
cannot
make
a
copy
of
them
and
give
them
to
the
inmate
or
the
client
so
that
they
can
look
at
them
at
their
leisure,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
is
sometimes
there's
very
sensitive
information
names
and
addresses
and
phone
numbers
of
witnesses,
and
it's
not
the
kind
of
material
that
we
want
to
be
published
on
the
internet
or
etc.
So
we
have
to
have
somebody
down
there
to
sit
with
them
while
they
review
their
reports.
P
I've
talked
with
some
people
and
I
have
a
couple
well-qualified
people,
one
of
them's
hispanic
bilingual,
which
we
really
need
and
what
I'd
propose
is,
instead
of
hiring
one
full-time
investigator
I'd,
be
allowed
to
hire
two
part-time
and
pay
them
on
an
hourly
basis.
If
I
hired
them
for
17
hours
a
week
that
would
be
850
hours
a
year,
they
wouldn't
be
required
to
participate
in
the
pension
they
wouldn't
be.
Neither
one
of
these
individuals
are
requiring
health
insurance,
so
there
would
be
a
savings
in
that
regard.
P
Also,
I
would
hire
them
under
the
condition
that
you
are
hired
as
needed,
so
that
if
there
was
a
a
lull
in
that
activity,
I
could
tell
them
hey.
You
can
go
home
and
I'll
see
you
next
week,
so
I
could
save
on
on
hours.
That
way.
Also
so
two
investigators
at
two
part-timers
that
paid
on
an
hourly
basis
we'd
keep
an
accurate
accounting
of
their
hours,
it's
34,
000
and
no
benefits.
P
I
also
right
now
feel
that
it
would
be
wise
to
hand
to
hire
a
another
secretary
of
administrative
assistant,
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
at
25
000
a
year.
I
only
have
two
right
now
for
the
whole
office
and
one
makes
31
makes
27.,
but
our
administrative
assistants
have
to
coordinate
between
the
court
system,
their
calendar,
their
their
schedule,
the
the
client
appointments
and
the
individual
attorneys.
P
So
we
have
this
increase
in
the
amount
of
cases
that
are
being
filed
and
the
amount
of
cases
that
are
assigned
to
the
public
defender's
office.
So
we
really
need
another
secretary
to
help
process
that,
in
addition
to
that,
the
two
people
that
I
have
right
now
are
very
experienced.
A
very
dedicated
ladies
they've
been
with
us
15
20
years,
mary
boswell,
who
is
the
office
manager,
as
I
call
her.
P
P
I
pleaded
with
her
to
stay
as
as
long
as
possible,
but
I
need
to
get
somebody
in
there
that
can
be
trained
to
take
her
not
take
her
spot
but
be
added
to
our
our
force
so
that
we're
not
faced
with
a
situation
where
we've
got
total
chaos
if
she
retires
and
we
have
nobody,
that's
trained
to
help
carmen
lewis.
In
that
position.
Carmen
lewis
is
the
other
administrative
assistant
that
I
have
as
it
is.
It's
it's
very
difficult.
P
Sometimes,
if
one
of
these,
ladies
is
on
vacation-
and
I
only
have
one
person
in
the
office
to
greet
people
to
to
to
take
all
the
phone
calls
that
we
get
in
the
morning-
there's
there's
times
when,
if
there's
just
one
of
them
available
either
on
vacation
or
somebody's
filing
documents
at
the
courthouse
that
we
can't
even
get
to
the
phone
properly.
So
I
I
feel
that
it
would
be
wise
for
us
to
deal
with
this
now.
I
I
don't
think
the
proposal
is
extravagant.
P
I've
talked
with
the
judges
in
detail
about
the
the
need
to
to
reinforce
a
little
bit
and
I
think
they
they
well.
I
know
they
agree
with
me.
We
there
we
are
talking
about
the
addition
of
a
public
defender,
but
we
haven't
reached
a
consensus
of
how
we
want
to
handle
that
at
the
present
time,
but
for
right
now.
I
think
it
would
be
a
wise
thing
that
we
make
this
move.
P
H
P
Over
with
mr
wheeler,
I.
H
Directly
haven't
spoken
to
him.
I
know
the
chairman
tried
to
brief
me
a
little
bit
because
he
was
going
to
be
gone,
and
I
do
not
recall
that
he
mentioned
anything
about
discussions
with
you
in
terms
of
the
investigator
no.
H
H
My
understanding
is
your
discussions
have
included,
and
I
think
you
made
a
brief
reference
to
it
in
terms
of
whether
moved
on
to
something
like
a
well
some
other
arrangements,
let's
not
try
to
sort
that
out
now
in
terms
of
what
it
might
be,
but
whatever
you
do
in
terms
in
your
office,
investigators
may
be
part
of
negotiations
with
a
bigger
picture,
so
as
an
individual
and
as
vice
chairman,
I
would
recommend
to
this
committee
that
we
not
act
on
that
portion
of
your
proposal
at
this
time.
H
P
The
paralegal
I
I'm
I'm
submitting
that
investigator
in
lieu
of
the
paralegal
okay,
the
paralegal
investigator.
That's
the
position
that
I'm
talking
about.
So
I'm
not
asking
for
an
investigator
and
a
paralegal
and
a
secretary.
P
I'm
sorry,
I
might
want
to
point
out
too
that
you
know
several
years
ago
we
had
three
part-time
investigators.
Now
we
only
have
one
part-time.
A
P
I
am
there's
one
full-time
lawyer
in
the
public
defender's
office.
H
P
So
we
have
13,
we
have
two
office
staff
and
we
have
one
part-time
investigator.
J
Well,
when
I
look
down
at
you,
I
said
sixteen
twelve,
that's
it!
Sixteen
total!
I
look
down
at
your
counterparts.
The
state's
attorney's
office
has
got
30
full-time
guys
and
two
part-timers,
which
of
course,
they've
got
a
lot
more
duties.
They
got
more
duties
than
than
you
have,
but
I
can
understand
your
your
point
on
you
you're
getting
a
little
thin
with
with
bodies
and-
and
I
I
see
no
problem
with
approving
your
proposal
as
long
as
the
chairman
is
on
board
and
the
budget
is
able
to
fit
these
people
in
at
this
time.
J
Do
you
understand
what
that
that's
my
predicament
is?
Is
the
budget
able
to
carry
this
capacity
for
your
two
part-time,
additional
investigators
or
paralegals,
or
whatever
we're
gonna
call
them
but
you're?
So
I
have
no
problem
with
it.
I
understand,
but
I
I
understand
what
mr
lear's
saying
that
maybe
the
chairman
needs
to
be
abreast
of
this
and
we
can
go
forward,
but
I
I
see
your
predicament
so.
A
Anybody
else
well,
my
question
is:
I
think
we
got
a
little
ambiguous
on
what
the
paralegal
and
the
investigator
is.
Do
you
want
to
wait
on
the
whole,
it
sounds
to
me
like
you
really
would
like
to
get
somebody
in
at
the
administrative
assistant,
because
the
other
one
is
looking
at
retirement.
P
H
P
He
30
days
ago,
he
exceeded
the
total
amount
of
felony
cases
that
were
filed
in
2016
with
four
months
to
go.
A
A
P
H
A
H
I
really
think
there
is
some
confusion
in
terms
of
what
the
chairman
knows
in
terms
of
whether
this
is
a
paralegal
or
investigator,
and
whether
we've
had
enough
information
discussion
yet
in
terms
of
what
is
the
best
way
to
structure
the
office,
and
so
that
would
be
the
reason
for
my
motion
and
next
month.
Hopefully
we
can
have
clarity
in
terms
of
what's
the
best
way
to
structure
the
other.
P
Things,
that's
there.
We
yeah
we're
talking
the
chairman,
and
I
are
talking
about
the
same
person.
It
was
just
under
a
different
name,
is
basically
what
it
amounts
to.
L
L
Then
that
person
went
back
into
our
jail
which,
which
we
pay
for.
L
P
That's
another
thing
that
can
happen
and
we
have
to
look
at
it
in
the
respect
that
last
month
we
had
one
lawyer
that
was
had
two
cases
that
were
called
for
trial
at
the
same
time
in
two
different
courtrooms.
Okay,
so
obviously
one
of
the
cases
had
to
be
continued
and
that
continuance
is
for
approximately
two
months
and
what
does
it
cost
the
sheriff
to
house
that
individual
for
another
two,
two
months,
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
a
month.
P
P
Like
mr
downey
said,
there's
approximately
250
locals
out
of
those
I'd
say:
probably
80
percent
are
public
defender,
clients
and
when
I
was
talking
about
150
that
we
need
to
attend
to
I'm
basically
talking
about
people
charged
with
felonies,
not
the
people
that
are
in
custody
for
misdemeanors
or
aggravated
traffic
offenses,
so
the
more
we
can
keep
them
moving.
I
I
think
the
better
off
the
whole
all-around
picture
is
going
to
be.
L
L
You
know
so
I'm
like
mr
steroids,
I'm
in
favor,
of
giving
you
some
additional
help.
If
we
can
stand
it
in
the
budget.
F
Mr
chairman,
I've
been
listening
to
this
and
I'm
one
of
the
new
members.
It
appears
that
we're
discussing
a
part-time
employee
which
is
hired
at
will
and
can
be
terminated.
It
will
that
we
do
not
necessarily
have
to
make
a
long-term
commitment,
but
we
certainly
can
establish
something
now
for
a
short
period
of
time,
with
the
understanding
that
we
may
have
to
come
back
later
and
say
we
can't
do
it
and
we
can
help
this
situation
now.
A
That's
a
lot
of
sense
yeah
it
does,
but
our
problem
is,
is
we
want
to
take
it
back
to
the
chairman
to
make
sure
that
we're
talking
about
apples
and
apples
and
then
looking
at
the
whole
department
or
the
whole
public
defender's
office,
okay
and
see
what,
if
hiring
those
are
right
or
you
know,
there's
been
talk
about
taking
some
part-times
and
making
them
full
times
and
eliminate
part
times,
and
that
kind
of
thing
I
understand,
because.
A
A
A
H
Withdrawing
that
motion
and
making
a
motion
to
hire
a
paralegal
and
administrative
assistant
and
then
if,
in
fact,
that
is
the
same
thing
that
mr
regis
is
talking
about,
then
I
see
no
problem,
because
I
know
that
that
was
something
that
the
chairman
was
aware
of
and
was
in
fact
supportive
of.
P
H
F
A
M
H
N
A
A
A
Don't
go.
We
gotta
sign
this,
so
we
have
no
new
business.
So
chair
will
entertain
a
motion
to
adjourn
and
the
emotion
to
adjourn
has
to
come
from
mr
mulkey
because
I've
trained
him
over
the
years
to
know
how
to
do
that.
So
we
have
a
motion
by
mr
mulcain.
Second,
if
I
missed,
I
got
to
go
to
mr
hess
you're
new,
but
you'll
you'll
build
up
to
it,
we're
all
in
favor
for
german,
say:
aye!
Okay,
thank
you.
We're
adjourned.