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Finance Committee Meeting 10/25/2017 9:00 AM
A
A
Want
to
welcome
everyone
to
the
Wednesday
October
25th,
2017,
Finance
Committee
meeting
I
just
want
to
make
a
quick
comment.
If
you
notice
board
members,
if
you
look
down
you'll
see
a
little
word
that
says,
speak
and
then
over
on
the
other
side,
you'll
see
a
little
bit
thing
that
says
Mike
and
all
that
is
is
to
let
you
know
that
you
don't
have.
B
A
C
C
D
E
A
Have
no
public
comment,
just
one
quick
thought
just
to
keep
Mike
Mulcahy's
mother
and
your
thoughts
she
passed
away
and
that's
the
reason
he's
not
here
and
the
way
kids
four
to
eight
at
Clancy
Gernon
Hertz
on
West
Kankakee
today.
So
if
anybody
can
get
over
there,
I'm
sure
he'd
appreciate
it
like
I
said:
I
have
no
public
comment.
Is
there
any
public
comment.
A
Approval
of
minutes
there
are
excusing
presentation.
We
have
president
okay
approval
of
minutes.
The
minutes
of
August,
23rd,
2017
and
September
12
2017
are
completed.
September
27th
is
not
so
we'll
need
a
motion
for
the
August
23rd
in
the
September
12
minutes
motion
by
mr.
Ryan
felt
second
mr.
Vickery,
all
in
favor
say:
aye
I'll
oppose
okay.
Now,
if
Steve
will
come
up
McCarty
Steven
Carty
here
we
have
a
presentation.
A
Once
again,
just
on
once
again,
Steve
and
the
finance
department
has
been
presented
with
a
certificate
of
achievement
for
excellence
and
financial
reporting,
and
we
would
like
to
present
this
to
Steve
it's
for
the
preparing
of
all
the
necessary
information
for
our
audit
and
the
validity
of
our
audience.
And
and
it's
a
second
year
in
role
as
Steven.
The
finance
department
have
been
given
this
award
and
we'd
like
to
give
it
to
Steve.
B
Thank
you
now
this
we
accept
this
on
behalf
of
the
entire
county
and
all
the
departments
there's
a
lot
of
work
from
a
lot
of
departments,
not
only
the
finance
staff
or
outside
auditors,
but
we
we
bug
a
lot
of
departments
for
information
that
goes
in
the
back
section,
the
statistical
section,
and
we
appreciate
that
the
county
clerk's
office,
especially
they
do
four
or
five
reports
for
us
for
that
in
that
area.
So
every
spring
day
they
know
the
emails
are
coming
from
us.
B
A
D
D
F
You,
mr.
chairman,
good
morning,
everyone
wanted
to
just
give
you
just
a
few
highlights:
I
did
email
out
the
or
Diane
emailed
out
the
quarterly
report.
In
addition
to
the
claims
report
for
the
period
ending
in
the
quarterly
report
is
August.
31St
claims
report
is
September
1st
to
September
30th.
Just
a
few
highlights
on
the
quarterly
report
we
won't
present
on
it
today.
It's
not
but
the
it's
a
cash
basis
report.
Both
reports
are
so
basically
as
a
reminder.
F
It
adjusts
as
cash
transaction
to
the
system,
and
that
is
when
the
entries
and
so
forth
are
made
and
that
revenues
corrected
remember
at
the
last
quarterly
report.
I
said
it
would
not
remain
at
the
levels
it
was
about:
17
percent,
they
correct
it
and
they're,
probably
down
closer
to
8
percent,
which
is
what
we
expected
and
we'll
see
them
correct
again
by
the
end
of
the
year.
F
Expenditures
are
up
nine
point:
zero
five
percent
relative
to
last
year,
and
the
thing
I
wanted
to
kind
of
note
is
that
we're
trending
towards
FY
15
numbers
on
the
revenue
and
the
expenditure
side.
The
unfortunate
part
about
that
is
FY
15
was
a
deficit
year,
so
we
need
to
watch
that
closely
and
we
think
that
there
still
will
be
a
positive
balance
in
the
general
fund
from
what
I
see,
but
we
still
need
to
watch
the
numbers
very
closely.
F
So,
as
you
know,
I
always
I'm,
pretty
cautious
and
and
conservative
in
that
the
management
letter
I
have
mentioned
has
been
posted
to
the
county's
website
and
I'd
like
to
thank
chairman
wheeler
for
making
sure
we
got
in
compliance
in
that
area.
There
have
been
a
lot
of
misunderstandings,
I
think
about
some
of
the
things
that
are
required
and
so
we're
working
very
hard
to
make
sure
that
we
are,
you
know,
being
compliant
in
the
areas
in
which
we
can
be
very
briefly.
F
I
wanted
to
touch
on
the
idea
of
audit
evidence
and
a
lot
of
times.
People
forget
that
the
auditor
is
responsible,
for
you
know,
establishing
an
opinion
based
on
evidence,
and
so
when
we
request
information,
whether
it's
from
our
department
in
terms
of
inventories
or
whether
it's
from
anyone
else
for
some
sort
of
verification.
F
If
it's
substantiation
of
a
claim
it
is,
we
cannot
recommend
for
approval
a
claim
or
issue
an
opinion
or
anything
like
that
without
gathering
the
necessary
evidence,
and
so
we'd
like
to
thank
those
departments
who
have
worked
very
well
with
us
and
providing
that
information,
but
also
remind
everyone
that
it
is,
it
is
necessary
for
us
to
properly
execute
our
position.
So
beyond
that
we
have
the.
F
Just
a
few
issues
with
claims
that
we're
working
through
we
try
to
resolve
things
at
the
lowest
level.
We
have
still
continued
to
have
things
like
claims
are
not
signed
by
authorized
persons
or
they're
not
signed
at
all
different
things
like
that,
so
we're
working
through
those
issues
as
well.
So
please
be
mindful
of
that.
F
So
we
continue
to
work
on
that.
We
do
have
some
personnel
issues
as
you're
well
aware
of
in
the
auditor's
office
that
has
reduced
our
already
very,
very
limited
staff,
and
you
know
all
the
things
we've
been
divested
of
so
we're
working
through
that
inventories
was
an
issue
that
some
people
on
the
board
even
asked
me
about.
So
I
wanted
to
address
that
as
well.
F
In
terms
of
there
is
a
fiscal
policy.
That's
been
quoted
to
me
as
being
passed
by
the
board
and
in
that
fiscal
policy
in
the
section
that
deals
with
inventories
is
actually
outlined.
The
responsibilities
with
inventories
so
I
do
encourage
the
board
to
look
at
that.
If
you
haven't
already
and
because
that
is
another
item-
that's
been
divested
of
the
office.
F
G
F
F
G
F
I
submitted
all
that
information
not
only
to
you
in
a
personal
meeting,
but
also
to
Steve
and
yourself
by
email.
Okay,
yes
and
the
budget
number
that
we're
asking
for
is
one
hundred
twenty
four
thousand
dollars
low
four
hundred
twenty
four
thousand
dollars,
and
that
will
allow
us
to
actually
have
this:
the
staff
we
need,
obviously,
and
also
to
run
the
office.
F
If
you
look
at
the
numbers
from
FY
16,
the
previous
auditor
actually
went
over
budget
because
the
Union
position
that
was
there
and
the
auditor
salary
and
the
few
office
supplies
and
things
you
need
there
just
wasn't
enough
allocated.
So
it
was
about
sixteen
hundred
dollars
or
so
over
budget.
If
you
look
at
the
kafir',
do.
F
G
Twenty
hundred
five
224,
okay
and
I'm
just
trying
to
get
my
arms
around
this,
because
we
won't
have
an
opportunity
to
talk
before
we
start
meeting
on
budgets.
And
we
do
do
that
kind
of
stuff.
With
this
committee,
when
we
look
at
this
is
specifically
came
from
the
department
head
meeting
I'm
having
a
lot
of
departments
are
asking
about
for
our
help
in
ordering
office
supplies
because
they
had
we're,
told
that
you
weren't
going
to
be
able
to
order
them.
G
While
you
were
short-handed
and
so
I
want
to
at
least
verify
that
and
make
sure
that
that
was
accurate
and
that
we
should
be
telling
department
heads
to
order
them
and
then
build
the
central
services.
Because
I
couldn't
ask
answer
that
question
directly,
because
I
think
that's
what
I
think
this
committee
would
want,
because
that's
what
we're
supposed
to
go.
But
I
was
just
trying
to
clear
that
up
as
a
lot
of
the
department
heads
we're
having
some
issues
so.
F
Obviously,
as
far
as
resources
is
concerned,
I'm
in
office
of
one
and
frankly,
waiting
for
me
to
place
the
orders
for
individuals
and
perform
clerical
work
to
that
extent
is
going
to
be
a
delay
and
people
will
need
things
to
operate
their
office.
So
my
advice
to
them
has
been
to
order
the
supplies
and
and
then
it
should
just
be
a
journal
voucher
to
account
for
it.
As
far
as
the
system
goes
with
central
services,
the
practicality
of
central
services
right
now
is
it's
not
there,
because.
G
G
Have
you
didn't
perform
those
audits,
though
the
County
one
out,
I'm
speaking
kind
of
like
I
know
what
the
answer
is,
but
we
went
out
and
hired
someone
to
do
the
Sheriff's
Office
and
we
still
have
to
do
that
for
your
office
and
for
the
state's
attorney
and
for
the
treasurer's
office.
But
you
can't
you
can't
do
those
we
don't.
We
have
to
have
a
CPA
to
do
that.
Correct
I
just
want
to
verify
that
we
can't
do
them
internally
unless
there's
a
CPA
by
statute.
F
There
has
to
be
a
CPA
to
do
it
and
in
this
county,
as
far
as
I
know,
the
there
there
hasn't
been
a
CPA
as
an
auditor.
I
am
pursuing
the
hours
to
become
a
CPA
I
have
the
hours
in
terms
of
you
need
150
hours
to
become
a
CPA.
I
have
MBA,
so
I
have
well
over
150
hours.
I,
just
don't
have
the
accounting
specific
hours
so
I'm
working
on
that
myself
so
sure
sure.
G
F
G
As
far
as
our
changeover
audit
on
the
Sheriff's
Department,
which
was
mid
last
year
when
he
took
over,
were
there
any
irregularities
that
were
found
within
the
finances
of
the
Sheriff's
Department
and
the
capper
this
year,
were
there
anything
that
you
noted
or
because
I
didn't
see
anything
I
just
wanted
for
the
committee
to
know
we
did
have
an
audit,
because
the
sheriff
has
very
little
to
do
with
finances.
I,
don't
take
her
collect
money
behind
commissary,
which
is
already
audited
by
the
outside
auditors.
G
F
Well,
the
the
outside
on
it
isn't
for
the
purpose
of
detecting
irregularities,
I
would
per
say
it
is
to
really
allow
the
new
elected
official
to
start
with
a
clean
slate
in
terms
of
the
the
items
that
were
recorded
prior
to
that
elected
official
taking
office.
So
as
far
as
whether
or
not
I
noticed
any
irregularities
in
the
kafir'
and
so
forth,
I
did
not.
But
again
our
office
has
been
relegated
to
have
very
limited
involvement
with
that.
That's
all
the
outside
auditors
and
you
know
the
finance
department
which
is
and
the
administration.
G
F
So
we
have
actually
I
have
put
together
a
kind
of
a
methodology
if
you
will,
for
auditing.
I
have
actually
reached
out
to
some
department
heads
saying
that
we
intend
to
do
that.
We
probably
in
terms
of
practicality,
will
not
be
able
to
actually
engage
any
an
actual
audit
until
next
year
of
these
departments,
because
we
do
not
have
the
resources
and
did
not
have
the
resources
when
I
started.
Okay,.
H
F
As
I
can
tell
there
no
records
of
any
substantive
audits
since
about
2008
or
2009
and
again
the
auditor's
office
has
been
not
only
divested
of
personnel
where
it's
become
very
impractical
and
had
been
inundated
with
other
activities
that
you
know
the
my
predecessor
decided
to
forego
auditing
and
concentrate
on
stuffing
envelopes
and
other
activities.
I.
G
Guess
my
final
question
I'm
sure
you've
read
the
outside
audit
to
the
Past
to
get
up
to
speed.
Have
you
ever
seen
anything
where
any
of
the
outside
auditors
who
are
pay
professionals
to
take
an
objective,
bylaw,
a
third
party
look
at
our
processes
and
procedures
and
the
way
we
handle
money
has
there
been
anything
as
far
as
mismanagement,
malfeasance,
misappropriation
or
any
other
inappropriate,
financial
or
regular
regulatory,
whether
it's
irregularity
or
whether
it's
grave
or
illegal?
Have
you
seen
any
of
those
noted
anywhere
so.
F
Let
me
what
an
outside
audit
is
meant
to
do,
and
outside
audit
is
meant
to
determine
whether
or
not
the
financial
statements
are
fairly
presented
in
all
material
aspects.
Here's
the
comparison,
I
like
to
give
Walmart,
for
example,
material
misstatement
for
Walmart,
is
110
million
dollars,
so
errors,
fraud
even
and
other
issues
up
to
110
million
dollars,
does
not
cause
for
material
misstatement,
which
means
the
auditor
will
issue
a
clean
audit
report,
meaning
that
they
will
say
that
there
is
no.
F
In
our
opinion,
there
is
no
material
misstatement
of
the
financials
of
Walmart,
even
though
to
us,
if
there's
a
hundred
million
dollars
of
issues,
that
sounds
like
a
lot
of
money.
The
same
is
true
for
any
other
organization,
be
it
the
county
or
any
other
organization.
The
materiality
of
misstatements
in
the
financial
statements
does
not
preclude
or
does
not
exempt
from
an
organization
or
not.
They
are
in
compliance
with
state
law.
F
State
statute,
whether
or
not
there
is
fraudulent
activity
are
that
the
amount
of
testing
that
happens
in
an
external
audit
is
much
less
than
the
testing.
That
would
happen
in
a
fraud
or
a
forensic
audit
or
that
type
of
thing.
So,
while
the
county
or
myself
or
the
external
auditors
have
not
seen
material
misstatements
and
as
far
as
far
as
their
audit
of
the
county
goes
in
the
kafir'
and
so
forth,
that
still
doesn't
mean
that
other
issues
don't
exist.
F
Now
I
will
say
having
said
that,
whether
or
not
there
is
impropriety
or
waste
or
fraud,
or
any
of
that
that
that's
a
completely
different
issue,
and
so
I
would
say
that
while
it
when
people
think
of
the
annual
audit,
they
think
that
it
goes
to
the
level
of
detail
of
discovering
those
things.
But
that's
not
what
an
audit
is
for
it's
to
determine
whether
or
not
the
financial
statements
are
fairly
stated
and
as
the
outside
auditors
have
said,
and
as
I
believe
as
well,
they
are
fairly
stated
now.
G
Guess
my
final
question
would
be
then,
with
what
you
said
and
I
know:
there's
a
lot
of
testing
goes
on
and
I
don't
want
to
minimize
any
of
that,
because
there
is
a
lot
of
testing
and
there
are
things
that
are
found
to
be
could
be
done
better
and
that's
where
a
management
letter
comes
in.
But
in
your
opinion,
how
are
those
things
found
that
are
in
proprieties
or
things
that
or
are
illegal
or
armistice
misappropriations?
What
what
are
the
mechanisms
that
are
to
be
found
in
the
numbers
ear
to
hear
them?
F
So
there
are
various
processes
and
that
you
can
you
can
undertake
in
order
to
find
those
kinds
of
things.
I
don't
want
to
get
into
the
details
of
the
methodology,
because
you
know
to
do
that
publicly
would
be
irresponsible,
but
I
will
say
that
it's
a
scientific
process
by
which
you
would
want
to
you,
use
a
certain
sampling
criteria.
There
are
other
mechanisms
that
you
use
in
order
to
discover
what
those
impropriety
could
possibly
be
as
far
as
the
auditor's
office
goes
and
our
desire
to
do
those
things.
F
You
know
we
we
want
to
make
sure
we
get
those
things
in
order
as
well,
and
that
will
allow
us
to
do
a
lot
of
the
things
that
frankly,
haven't
been
done
as
far
as
I
can
tell
in
recent
history,
so
we
have
a
strong
desire
to
do
them.
We
need
the
resources
to
get
them
done
and
we
are
committed
to
do
that.
I
You
mr.
chairman,
I
find
it
I
am
new
board
member
for
County
Board
district
number,
20
and
I
find
this
line
of
questioning
very
interesting,
answering
question:
is
there
a
procedure
by
which,
if
some
impropriety
is
noted,
that
someone
can
bring
that
to
someone
or
what?
What
precipitated
this
kind
of
conversation.
G
G
There
is
impropriety,
the
first
step
would
probably
be
our
new
Ethics
Committee.
That
would
look
at
that.
I
think
that
maybe
the
notation
would
come
to
the
Finance
Committee.
If
it's
a
department
head
who
has
done
something,
that's
either
in
unethical
or
misappropriated,
it
would
be
it's
a
matter
for
either
the
state's
attorney
to
look
into,
or
it's
a
matter
for
the
Ethics
Commission
to
look
into.
So
there
is
mechanisms
now
or
both
and
it
may
one
to
the
other.
So
it
good
point
it
could
be
both.
J
F
Yes,
so
mr.
Vickery
I
will
I
will
say
that,
as
far
as
the
specific
process
of
the
outside
auditor,
as
I
stated
in
a
previous
meeting,
I
was
not
a
part
of
that
audit.
So
I
don't
know
what
their
specific
methodology
is
in
terms
of
what
I
would
do
and
kind
of
the
things
that
that
I
would
test,
for
and
in
general
auditors
do
test
for
internal
controls
right.
F
That
is
a
requirement
to
test
for
internal
controls,
but
I
would
say
that
that
the
testing
for
internal
controls
is
only
part
of
the
audit
evidence
that
you
would
have
to
gather
in
terms
of
coming
up
with
your
opinion
now
again
with
Ott's
outside
auditors.
The
perspective
is
different,
that
it's,
whether
or
not
the
financials
are
fairly
stated.
It's
not
whether
or
not
your
internal
controls
are
effective.
It's
not
whether
or
not
you're
following
processes
and
procedures.
It's
not
whether
or
not
you're,
compliant
with
state
statute
and
state
law
or
federal.
For
that
matter.
F
J
K
G
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
I,
would
actually
echo
that
I
know
that
as
I
read
the
past
audits,
there
was
a
time
that
our
auditor
found
that
we
were
not
complying
with
federal
laws
as
far
as
grants
go
and
we
had
to
change
our
entire
process.
As
mr.
Vickery
was
on
the
board,
then
that
was
one
of
the
things
of
the
holes
that
our
finance
department
helped
dig
us
out
of
was
setting
up
those
processes
to
be
able
to
make
sure
we're
in
compliance
at
that
time
with.
G
So
we
didn't
have
to
pay
back
all
of
the
grants,
so
that
was
I
would
I
would
say
that
I
disagree
with
that
assessment
of
what
the
audit
is
in
a
pretty
big
way.
We
do
get
that
quite
a
bit.
We
they
look
at
our
labor
contracts
to
make
sure
we're
employment
compliance
with
labor
contracts
if
they
find
something
that's
outside
of
that.
They
note
that
which
was
in,
which
was
in
the
information
that
they
gave
to
the
county
board.
G
It
wasn't
in
the
management
letter,
but
it's
something
they
said
we
needed
to
address
and
look
into
so
I.
Think
that
the
perception
that
the
outside
audit
is
not
complete
and
a
valuable
tool
and
full
of
information
and
full
of
checks
and
balances,
I
think
is
a
gross
mischaracterization
of
what
we
do
here.
In
my
opinion,
and.
F
If
I
may,
I
have
made
no
such
assessment,
so
I'm
not
sure
where
that
perspective
is
coming
from,
but
I
am
presenting
the
the
known
auditing
standards
and
what
and
outside
audit
is
and
and
I've
taken.
Many
courses
I
hold
the
MBA
and
I'm
not
ignorant
to
this
fact,
I
will
say
that
an
outside
audit
is
restricted
and
it's
restricted
by
certain
elements
that
I've
outlined
already
among
many
others,
but
it
is
very
useful.
F
When
you
talk
about
the
governmental
activities,
what
money
we
bring
in
and
what
money
goes
out,
we
have
been
over,
maybe
not
in
the
general
fund
last
year,
because
it
was
nineteen
thousand
and
some
change
to
the
good,
but
we
have
many
other
funds
and
when
you
bring
all
the
governmental
activities
together,
all
the
revenues
associated
with
those
activities
and
all
the
expenditures
we
were
over
last
year
as
well
as
we
were
the
year
before
the
year
before
in
a
year
before.
So
that
is
why
I
always
caution
people.
F
When
we
talk
about
the
finances
to
make
sure
we
take
it
all
kind
of
as
a
corpus
of
material
and
not
just
piecemeal
it,
as
we,
you
know,
sometimes
when
I'm
in
the
community
and
and
elsewhere,
I
kind
of
get
the
sense
that
people
want
to
do
so.
The
outside
audit,
the
outside
auditors
and
all
of
that
is
very
valuable,
very
useful.
F
F
You
just
could
not
function
in
that
office
and
it
kind
of
played
out
now.
What
we're
requesting
is
that
we
have
the
resources
to
execute
being
able
to
perform.
All
of
our
statutory
duties
is
another
discussion
and
it's
been
a
lot
of
heartache
and
I.
Understand
that
and
I
get
that,
but
I
believe
that
this
office
as
being
elected
a
constitutional
office,
is
responsible
for
the
things
in
that
statute
and
therefore
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
execute
on
those
items.
But
we
need
the
resources
to
do
so.
J
A
F
Our
goal
is
to
get
a
process
back
in
place.
We
need
to
actually
do
a
little
deeper
dive
with
Central
Services
there's
some
some
issues
with
the
way
it
was
set
up.
The
execution
of
the
previous
auditor
and
deputy
that
I
don't
believe
it
was.
It
was
executed
as
it
was
designed.
So
we're
going
to
review
that,
and
then
we
will
report
on
the
the
real
savings
and
and
things
that
I
think
I
think
Central
Services
was
designed
to
achieve.
A
L
This
covers
October
September
27
to
October,
24th
and
County.
In
the
middle
you
see
where
the
total
staff
count
was
as
of
last
month
and
then
over
to
the
far
right.
We
have
our
additions
or
reductions
from
that
happened
during
this
month's
time.
So
starting
out
in
the
administration
staff,
we
have
one
full
time,
employee,
that's
been
hired
and
that's
for
our
ad
a
compliances
and
that
takes
that
count
to
four
circuit
clerk
has
lost
one
full-time
employee,
taking
their
count
to
33.
L
The
County
Clerk
has
hired
one
full-time
employee.
Now,
staffing
at
eleven
Highway
Department
lost
one
full-time
employee.
Taking
that
count
to
30
maintenance,
hired
one
full-time
employee
taken
their
count
to
12
planning
has
hired
one
full-time
employee
planning's
count
at
eight
recorder
has
lost
one
full-time
employee
taken
the
countdown
to
four
sheriff.
Deputies
has
hired
two
full-time
lateral
deputies,
so
total
deputies
is
44
plus,
of
course,
you
had
the
sheriff
there
and
then
in
corrections
division.
We
have
correctional
officers
hired
three
full-time
employees
this
month.
Their
count
now
at
117.
L
True
count
is
119,
but
they
have
two
that
are
on
an
unpaid
leave,
sheriff
medical
staff
hired
one
full-time
employee
now
their
count
at
15
and
state's
attorney
lost
one
full-time,
employee
and
hired
one
full-time
employee,
so
that
count
remains
at
33.
So
at
the
bottom
of
your
current
staff
column,
you
see
it's
510
and
that
takes
us
to
a
full-time
equivalent
of
459.
A
G
G
There
there
was
an
addition
administration,
the
ad,
a
coordinator
which
is
part
of
our
lady,
a
issues
with
the
Attorney
General,
but
that
is
a
sliver
of
the
job.
The
rest
is
doing
once
the
the
training
it's
finished,
we'll
be
working
with
workforce
board.
We
have
stuff
processing
invoices
doing
things
as
far
as
helping
them.
That's
how
we're
getting
part
of
that
salary
taken
care
of
is
to
relieve
some
of
that
stress,
because
we
lost
obviously
a
what
15
year
employee.
Who
was
the
gatekeeper
on
all
of
that.
G
So
we
need
bodies
to
help
finish,
fill
that
out
and
they're
also
a
fill
in
for
when
people
have
sick
days
and
in
administration,
because,
right
now,
if
heaven
forbid
Diane,
is
not
able
to
attend
a
meeting,
we
have
we
get
to
see
Joanne
come
back
in
the
room,
but
then
nobody's
doing
payroll.
So
if
you
see
my
point,
we've
had
to
have,
we
have
a
lot
of
floater
for
up
there,
but
we
also
are
able
to
help
subsidize
that
position
with
work
for
the
workforce
board.
So.
A
M
N
Okay,
I
think
everyone
should
have
the
copy
of
the
claims
report
there.
It
says
Premium
versus
claims
incurred,
including
IBNR
incurred,
but
not
reported
claims
I.
Think
we
talked
last
time
we
looked
at
what
our
loss
ratios
were,
and
in
summary,
since
that
last
meeting
our
claims
have
gotten
worse.
So,
if
you
look
at
the
columns
we
have
here,
we
just
have
the
year
and
the
month
the
members,
that's
the
total
amount
covered.
N
So
that
is
not
only
your
employee,
but
if
they
are
they're
covering
their
spouse
or
their
dependent
or
something
like
that,
the
subscriber
think
of
that
as
your
employees
that
are
covered,
then
we
have
the
premium
that
we're
paying
into
the
fund
the
premium
based
on
a
per
per
member
per
month.
They're
just
dividing
those
numbers
out.
We
have
our
medical
payments,
we
have
our
capitation
payments
for
the
HMO
piece.
N
We
have
our
pharmacy
payments
and
then
we
have
total
payments
so
that
if
we
look
at
our
claims
to
premium,
we
can
see
what
our
loss
ratios
are.
So
then
they
also
have
their
total
payments
per
member
per
month
and
there
are
12
month
rolling
average
on
a
per
member
per
month.
So
I
think
last
time
we
were
here
looking
at
some
months
and
going
to
like
in
January,
for
example,
I
think
we
were
looking
at
for
the
third
column
from
the
left
at
an
89%
loss
ratio.
N
The
next
month
that
went
down
to
56
percent
lost
ratio
the
next
month
it
was
87%
lost
ratio.
Those
are
all
good,
but
then
kind
of
turned
on
us.
So
we
have
a
one
hundred
and
1.5
percent
eighty
era,
96.7
111
a
two
hundred
twenty
percent
loss
ratio
and
then
a
seventy
nine
point.
Nine
percent
so
last
month
was
good,
but
we
had
a
lot
of
bad
months
in
there.
N
The
good
news
on
both
of
those
pieces
are.
We
are
told
by
United,
Healthcare
and
they're
under
a
department
that
one
of
those
claims
is
gone.
They
don't
expect
anything
else
on
that
one,
and
then
we
had
another
issue
where
we've
had
somebody
now
who
has
moved
to
Medicare
as
primary
and
so
Medicare
will
be
taking
the
lion's
share
of
that
and
leaving
us.
So
both
those
claims
you
know,
hopefully
we
were
paying
a
little
bit
on
the
Medicare
claim,
but
not
nearly
as
much
as
we
did.
N
N
We
searched
other
companies
right
now,
I'd
say
when
we're
looking
at
companies
were
down
between
Blue
Cross
and
Blue
Shield
and
United
Healthcare.
One
of
the
things
we're
looking
at
with
Blue
Cross
Blue
Shield
is
currently
our
most
popular
plan.
We
offer
several
different
plan
designs.
Our
most
popular
has
and
health
reimbursement
account
attached
to
it,
and
one
of
them's
with
Blue
Cross
Blue
Shield
United
Healthcare
does
that
internally
and
Blue
Cross
Blue
Shield
doesn't
do
that
internally.
N
So
if
we
did
make
the
switch
on
that
portion
to
Blue
Cross
Blue
Shield
we'd
have
to
get
an
outside
vendor
to
process
that
part.
So
that's
one
things
that
that
we're
looking
at
them
we've
actually
gone
out
and
gotten
a
couple
of
quotes
to
look
at
self
funding
all
the
plans,
and
so
that's
another
consideration
that
we're
looking
at
as
well.
All
this
total
we've
gone
back
and
gotten
numbers
back
just
recently
from
United
Healthcare
lowering
the
overall
increase.
N
If
we
don't
make
any
plan
changes
from
the
28
percent
down
to
about
20
percent,
that's
keeping
all
the
plans
exactly
as
they
are,
except
where
we
have
now
one
plan.
It's
a
$2,600
HSA
plan.
We
have
to
move
that
because
of
IRS
regulations
have
to
move
that
to
$2,700
so
but
that's
an
IRS
keeping
appliance
with
the
IRS
and
the
Affordable
Care
Act,
and
all
that
not
making
any
other
plan
changes.
N
N
One
of
the
things,
for
example,
is
that
you
know
we
have
an
HR
or
an
HMO
alternative
and
for
every
person,
for
example,
who
might
take
the
HMO
as
versus
the
plan
with
the
health
reimbursement
account,
would
save
the
county
about
$90
and
about
900
bucks
annually
for
every
person.
Who
does
that
so
one
of
the
things
we're
looking
at
is
migration
of
people
when
they
get
the
renewal
and
they
get
the
new
figures.
N
How
many
going
to
migrate
to
two
other
plans
so
right
now,
you
know
we
have
it
to
about
a
20
percent
increase
on
that
I
would
say
with
migration
and
also
with
the
HRA
piece.
You
know
we're
hoping
to
have
this
to
single
digits
I,
don't
think
that
we're
gonna
get
down
to
single
digits
right
now,
we're
looking
probably
at
about
a
17%
increase
in
expenditures,
assuming
that
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
migration
migration
to
cheaper
plans,
but,
of
course,
save
the
save
the
county
even
more
money.
G
O
A
I
Looking
at
this
premium
versus
claims,
I
can
see
the
problem.
Is
there
a
pattern?
Is
this
typical?
Is
there
anything
that
we
can
do
in
terms
of
changing
work,
habits,
types
of
I,
don't
know
I'm,
just
asking?
Is
it
and
we
looked
at
that
aspect
in
terms
of
maybe
making
everybody
stand
up
and
swing
their
arms
around
twice
a
day
or
anything
of
that
nature
has
any
of
that
been
looked
at.
N
Yeah,
the
fair
questions
and,
first
off
its
not
atypical,
to
see
a
few
like
10%
of
your
group,
driving
a
huge
portion
of
your
claims
and
you're
here
and
then
that's
basically
what
we're
looking
at.
We
have
discussions
with
UnitedHealthcare
looking
at
programs,
for
example,
big
things
try
to
get.
You
know:
people's
chronic
illnesses,
for
example,
to
make
sure
that
they're
continuing
when
their
care
and
getting
appropriate
care
for
them.
We
do
have
some
of
those
in
place.
A
N
E
N
N
K
N
G
Yeah
and
associated
question
do
to
piggyback
on
that.
Is
there
any
number
that's
been
added
to
trend
because
of
increases
in
you
know,
costs
of
because
of
the
Affordable
Care
Act,
and
so
you
know
people
pulling
out
of
the
markets
and
be
don't
think
of
other
plans,
I'm
just
curious.
If
I
can
industry
speak,
is
there
they're
saying
trends
now
4%
higher
because
of
X.
N
Yeah
I
haven't
seen
anything
where
it's
it's
because
of
the
Affordable
Care
Act,
it
defects
it
it's
affecting
different
markets
differently.
You
hear
a
lot
about
a
lot
of
big
rate
increases
like
in
the
individual
market.
It
has
certainly
affected
the
individual
market.
The
group
market
has
been
affected
with
some
of
the
plan.
Design
changes,
some
of
some
of
them
being
very
popular
like
having
your
dependents
on
that
until
age,
26,
getting
rid
of
all
pre-existing
conditions,
you
know
having
your
your
routine
care
be
paid
at
a
hundred
percent.
N
G
N
G
About
a
four
thousand
dollar
increase,
so
we
don't
know
that's
debilitating,
so
it's
probably
gonna
take
a
special
meeting
to
approve
this
plan.
I'm,
just
letting
everybody
know
it's
gonna,
be
a
committee
of
the
whole
type
thing,
so
we
may
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
make
finances
committee
of
the
whole
we'll
talk
more
about
that
later,
so
we
don't
have
to
meetings
next
month,
but
we'll
get
we'll
get
into
that
later.
I,
just
let
everybody
be
prepared.
We're
gonna
have
to
get
together
again,
probably
twice
in
the
next
month.
Yes,.
L
Because,
just
so
everybody
realizes
with
Paylocity,
so
we
can
get
everything
in
web
benefit
to
get
ready
for
open
enrollment.
We
have
to
be
final
at
the
county
board
meeting
in
November
that
allows
that
timeframe
for
everything
to
get
loaded
into
electronically
and
ready
for
open
enrollment
from
December
1st
sooo,
probably
the
11th
of
December,
and
then
our
insurance
meetings
will
be
held.
We
start
right
after
the
county
board
so
that
afternoon,
we'll
start
with
insurance
meetings
all
to
that
week
at
the
different
departments
and
then
possibly
into
the
following
week.
N
I'll
just
add
on
that
for
the
dollar
monster
exam,
but
you're,
looking
at
budgeting
right
now
about
for
the
current
year
was
about
four
and
a
half
million
dollars
all
in
including
our
HOA
and
all
that
kind
of
you
know
everything
for
the
medical
plan.
Only
that's
the
dental
in
the
vision
on
all
that
right
now,
as
things
stands
without
migration
to
cheaper
plans
and
all
that
we're
looking
at
5.3
million
so
yeah,
it's
substantial.
E
N
Yeah
and
trend
is,
is
more
than
just
inflation
like
that,
like
raising
their
rates,
it's
also
utilization
patterns
and
new.
You
know
technology
coming
forth
and
all
that
sort
of
thing
and
I
think
they're,
using
probably
about
and
and
right
now
and
one
piece
on
there.
You
look
at
it's
really
steps
out.
You
have
medical
trends
with
hospitals
and
doctors
and
all
that
and
that
might
be
8
percent
or
so,
and
you
have
trends
on
prescriptions
and
those
are
really
a
lot
higher.
N
A
J
N
There's
a
couple
things
I'm,
so
Blue,
Cross,
Blue
Shield,
does
have
a
couple
different
drug
card
options.
One
would
include
CBS,
but
if
we
looked
at,
for
example,
on
an
administrative
services,
only
self-insured
going
in
that
route
could
look
at
the
option
having
CBS
n
or
having
CBS,
not
in
the
plan.
N
I've
seen
numbers
on
that
and
how
much
that
would
cost,
and
some
other
some
other
groups
and
actually
the
the
groups
that
I
have
where
they
are
self-insured
I,
think
all
of
them
just
said,
drop
CBS,
because
the
the
cost
was
but
Blue
Cross
did
drop
them
on
their
smaller
group
on
their
larger
group.
It's
an
option
if
you
wanted
to
add
that
that
drug
card,
but
that'd,
be
something
that
we
look
at
disruption
of
PPO
networks,
pharmacy
networks,
all
that
whenever
we
would
consider
making
a
change
from
carrier
a
to
carry
your
B.
N
There
are
some
limits
and
rebates
on
things
and
not
in
ours,
not
in
our
size
group,
but
there
are.
There
are
some
and
certain
like,
for
example,
Blue
Cross,
Blue,
Shield
hasn't
given
back
anything
because
they
say
their
loss
ratios.
I
haven't
hit
that
so
they've,
not
refunded
any
money
on
that
I
think
United
did
one
year
for
their
first.
Certain
group
segment
from
like
it's
like
50
to
150
group
segment
is
basically
who
we've
got
that.
Thank
you.
Mm-Hmm.
G
Just
a
couple
there
I
was
basin
when
I
was
looking
at
the
19
percent
when
I
started.
Talking
about
you
know,
over
$400,000,
that's
kind
of
where
buy
was
that
on
what
we,
the
Steve
and
I,
ran
the
numbers,
if
at
all
possible
we're
going
to
get
down
to
that
level
in
one
way
or
another
I'd
like
to
keep
it
the
same.
But
that's
kind
of
my
comment.
G
If
we're
to
the
point
in
the
plan
where
and
I
mentioned
it
yesterday,
at
Executive,
something's
got
to
give
because
we're
maxed
out
on
the
HRA
we're
pretty
much
at
the
top
of
the
scale.
We
can't
move
anything
around
as
far
as
the
deductible
we
can
assume
and
the
risk
we
can
assume
as
the
county
to
impact
any
cost
savings.
G
Deductibles
moving
I
mean
plans,
changing
benefits,
changing
if
employees,
and
that
is
our
primary
responsibility
outside
of
being
cost
effective
for
employees
to
have
a
similar
rate
for
a
similar
health
care
plan,
it's
starting
to
become
almost
impossible,
and
so
we're
looking
at
different
ways
of
doing
that,
and
one
of
the
options
is
and
to
be
honest,
is
something's,
got
to
move
whether
deductibles
go
up.
Plan
changes
the
plan,
we
offer
everybody's
one
thing
and
you
buy
up
into
something
else.
We
want
to
take
what
their
needs
and
concerns
it
to
heart.
G
When
we're
doing
this
because
nobody
wants
to
pay
more,
nobody
wants
to
pay
twenty
eight
percent,
more
I
mean
we
started
with
as
three
years
ago.
I
actually
got
those
numbers.
If
we
wouldn't
have
changed
the
plans
that
we
did,
we
would
have
went
up
fifty
eight
percent
going
to
the
thousand
dollar
deductible
and
to
the
HRA
plans.
We
would
have
went
up
fifty
eight
percent,
but
I
believe
the
number
is.
G
We
only
want
up
six
percent
over
three
years,
which
is
unheard
of
that
kind
of
road
has
ended
and
I
don't
see
ways
and
working
with
our
consultants.
I
would
think
they
would
agree
that
we
work
on
at
the
end
of
that,
and
then
we
have
to
either
to
try
to
keep
the
cost
the
same
for
our
employees.
The
benefit
will
change,
and
so
this
isn't
like
the
county's
just
trying
to
be
cheap.
You
know
we're
trying
to
keep
it
cheap
for
everybody
and
an
effective
plan
for
everybody.
G
I
just
want
to
make
sure
everybody
knows
that,
especially
the
employees
who
might
be
watching
this.
It's
debilitating
to
have
this
amount
of
money
go
up
and
we're
so
far
behind
and
in
the
hole
my
cost,
at
least
with
finances
with
the
county,
or
if
we
were
flush,
it
would
still
be
awful.
You
know.
So
that's
all
I
want
to
mention.
A
A
Next
step
is
treasurer's
office
for
Carol
I'll
need
a
motion
to
combine
and
approve
the
county.
Treasurer's
report
for
September
2017,
the
county
collectors
report
for
September
2017
and
the
monthly
resolutions
for
November
2017
need
a
motion
by
mr.
Washington
second
by
mr.
Vickery.
All
those
in
favor
say
aye
all
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it.
Mr.
Africana
morning.
A
P
Think
I'm
on
now
there
you
go
good
morning.
Everybody
I
want
to
start
out
by
acknowledging
a
problem
that
I
had
in
my
office.
Some
may
know
about
it.
Some
may
not.
There
were
some
tax
payers
that
were
published
in
the
paper
inadvertently,
who
weren't
delinquent,
which
is
a
huge
problem
for
me
for
those
people
so
I
want
to
offer
and
on
the
record
apology
to
them,
and
anybody
who
read
The
Daily
Journal
on
Saturday
saw
that
I
offered
a
retraction
to
those
80.
P
P
Number
two
hotel
taxes,
I
know:
we've
talked
about
this
in
the
past
I'm
happy
to
report
that
over
the
last
two
months,
hotel
taxes
are
on
time
and
being
paid.
Accordingly,
there
was
a
late
company
in
August
and
they
met
had
a
check
for
$500
for
a
penalty
so
and
since
then
everybody
spent
a
long
time
so
I
think
that's
a
positive.
P
Thirdly,
just
a
housekeeping
thing
I
talked
about
the
comptroller's
office
last
time.
I
was
up
here
that
they've
yet
to
offer
training
which
is
statutory
for
my
office,
I
think
there's
eight
six
or
eight
new
treasures
around
the
state.
They
still
have
not
been
able
to
offer
that
to
us
and
I
just
want
that
on
the
record
I'm
hoping
before
the
next
election
I
can
be
trained
to
be
a
treasurer.
P
P
17
percent
or
17
and
a
half
percent
of
our
parcels
or
nine
thousand
658
parcels
pay
their
taxes
fully
on
the
first
installment,
so
I
think
that's
positive,
and
that
equates
to
twelve
and
a
half
percent
of
our
revenue
in
terms
of
taxes
or
about
twenty.
Three
point:
three
million
right
now
we
have
six
million
dollars
that
remain
to
be
collected,
which
is
about
3.2
percent
of
the
total,
and
we
have
about
3,000
parcels
that
are
delinquent,
which
is
about
five
and
a
half
percent.
P
P
P
I
think
the
one
of
the
things
we
want
to
talk
about
is
miss
Dunbar
brought
up
the
last
time
we
were
here
about
these
vacant
properties.
I
think
we're
talking
mostly
vacant
properties
as
well,
really
where
the
problem
lies,
properties
that
that
our
trustee
holds
that
we've
now
taken
deed
to
so
we
essentially
own
them
they're.
Now
off
the
tax
rolls
and
the
question
is
obviously
there's
a
blight
issue
right
to
keep
them
from
looking
bad,
but
there's
a
large
desire
to
get
them
back
on
the
tax
rolls
that
presents
a
lot
of
challenges.
P
Both
there
are
some
legal
challenges
to
that,
but
but
what
we
I
think
talked
about.
Miss
Dunbar
and
I
have
spoken
about,
and
chairman
wheeler
is:
let's
look
at.
You
know:
let's
go
out
and
create
an
ad
hoc
committee
that
can
look
at
the
way.
Other
people
have
dealt
with
this
problem.
See
if
there
are
creative
solutions,
I
will
say:
there's
not
a
silver
bullet,
but
if
we
fixed
10%
of
the
properties
it
would
have
been,
it
would
be
a
huge
success.
I
think
everybody
understands
the
challenges
of
these
vacant
properties.
P
There
are
some
properties,
I
won't
say
where
they
are,
but
if
someone
gave
them
to
you,
you
would
have
overpaid
right.
I
mean
that
that
that's
just
the
long
and
short
of
it
so,
but
there
are
others
that
perhaps
we
can
work
with
and
the
idea
is
we
don't
want
to
as
a
county
continue
to
hold
these
properties.
P
G
I,
you
know
that
was
a
great
idea
actually
to
get
something
together,
because
it
is
a
situation
that,
as
I've
spoken
to
mr.
Clark,
and
we
had
a
meeting
with
the
County
trustee.
You
know
because,
like
you
said,
we
don't
own
these
properties,
which
really
in
the
trustees
hands
for
all
the
taxing
bodies.
G
It's
a
perpetual
problem
and
it's
it's
a
it's
mixed
in
with
a
myriad
of
other
issues,
this
just
being
one
of
them.
So
to
take
a
more
proactive
look
at
this,
and
an
ad
hoc
committee,
I
think
is,
is
essential
and
I
think
that
it's
entirely
appropriate
for
you
to
leave
this
committee
and
organize
it
and
put
it
together,
because
it's
really
on
the
treasure
is
linked
to
do
so.
So
I
would
suggest
that
and
I
think
you
know.
Maybe
if
there's
another
board
member
from
like
obviously
miss
Dunbar
would
like
to
be
part.
G
If
there's
another
board
member
from
finance,
that
would
be
appropriate,
I
think
maybe
the
head
of
the
Realtors
Association
might
be
somebody
that
would
be
or
their
designee
what
would
be
appropriate
because
they're,
the
first-hand
knowledge
of
either
showing
or
not
showing
these
properties
and
might
be
able
to
provide
some
feedback,
and
then
there
has
to
be
somebody
on
the
municipal
level,
whether
that's
an
hour
later
to
bring
in
to
discuss.
You
know
because
you'll
start
to
identify
random
properties
that
are
just
there.
G
You
know,
maybe
it's
a
burned
out
house
that
I
think
wasn't
I.
Can
mister
I
fells
district
at
one
point
that
you
helped
clean
up.
I.
Remember
that
that
you
know
we
got
to
get
that
back
on
the
rolls.
What
do
we
do
to
help
that
situation?
Or
it's
just
a
vacant
piece
of
property?
That's
a
12-foot
sliver!
That's
never
going
to
be
back
on
the
rolls.
G
P
Gosh
I
know
I
I,
think
well,
I
think
the
alternatives
to
do
nothing
and
will
continue
to
be
in
the
same
position.
We
are
I
have
no
illusions
that
this
committee
will
you
know
it's
a
silver
bullet,
but
I
think
that
it's
something
and
by
starting
the
discussion,
perhaps
we
find
a
way
and
I
appreciate
mr.
Dunbar
sort
of
raising
the
red
flag
about
this.
It's
a
problem
in
her
district,
especially
and.
M
Thirteen
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
and
thank
you
mister
Africana,
because
we
did
have
a
good
conversation
and
he
reached
out
to
me
following
up
with
the
committee
meeting
last
month.
I
did
recommend
mr.
Scott
had
unfortunately
isn't
here
today,
but
he
had
indicated
some
interest
and
I
suggested
that
maybe
he
might
be
another
Finance
Committee
member.
That
would
be
good,
and
maybe
you
can
reach
out
to
him.
I,
don't
know
if
he'd
be
interested.
M
He
had
indicated
some
knowledge
of
some
creative
programs
in
terms
I
think
what
Cook
County's
done
and
I
also
did
suggest
a
realtor
mr.
wheeler,
who
is
also
connected,
I
suggested
Chris
Curtis,
who
happens
to
also
be
an
alderman
and
a
developer
and
a
realtor
and
is
in
a
district
that
also
is
affected
within
the
city
of
pinky
by
some
of
these
issues.
So
I
think
we're
on
the
same
path:
they're
the
same
track
in
terms
of
who's
appropriate
to
be
on
the
committee
and
I'm,
certainly
happy
to
be
part
of
it.
M
I
think
that
we
can
come
up
with
some
creative
solutions.
Mr.
Afrikaner
and
I
talked
about
community
gardens
and
a
lot
of
people
think
that
that's
a
great
idea
and
I
love
community
gardens.
You
know
in
in
the
wards
and
Kankakee
and
and
in
the
outlying
areas
and
then
the
other
municipalities,
but
that
doesn't
solve
the
tax
issue.
You
know
it
doesn't
get
them
back
on
the
text.
Rolls
so
I
think
it's
great.
M
If
you
have
a
12-foot
sliver,
you
can
put
a
little
garden
on
it
great
but
I,
don't
you
know,
that's,
certainly
not
the
solution
to
every
empty
lot,
and
particularly
in
my
district,
at
least
so.
If,
if
with
the
board's
blessing,
I
really
would
like
this
to
move
forward
and
have
some
conversations
about
how
to
handle
this
issue.
I.
P
Think
that's
a
great
idea,
I
think
mr.
Rhyne
felt
probably
could
understands
the
issue.
If
you
know
there
was
a
property,
that's
available
he's
a
builder
I'm
sure
he
could
give
you
a
many
reasons
why
he
doesn't
choose
to
buy
that
property
at
the
tax
sale
and
build
on
it
right.
So
clearly,
there's
there's
there's
challenges,
but
we,
but
we
need
to
sit
down
and
get
going
on
this
and
come
up
with
some
ideas.
I
spoken
with
Eric
Blair
who's
in
the
back
of
the
room
who
said
he's
would
would
be
willing.
P
I
know:
Jim
Vickery
mr.
Vickery
reached
out
to
me
to
participate.
So
you
know
I,
think
the
more
the
better
I
think
mr.
Scott
I'll
reach
out
to
him
as
well.
If
it's,
if
it's
okay
with
the
committee,
then
I
will
report
back
at
the
next
Finance
Committee
with
constituted
ad-hoc
committee
for
your
approval,
I
suppose.
G
And,
and
so
it's
that
it,
it
directly
impacts
the
job
that
you
do
in
the
duties
you
have
to
perform
for
the
citizen.
So
I
think
that
part
is
fine.
It's
whatever
you
put
together
and
I
will
mention
that
again,
these
these
properties
are
a
part
of
the
the
puzzle
that
were
putting
together.
It's
not
just
this
one
issue,
so
once
you
guys
work
through
this
there's
other
things
with
salient
errors,
and,
oh
you
know,
I
mean
there's.
P
Just
to
speak
to
the
sale
in
air
that
that
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up.
So
you
know
yesterday,
I
get
a
FedEx
package
and
there's
60
salient
errors
in
it
from
a
large
fund.
I
can't
stop
them
all,
but
I
can
stop
those
that
are
created
by
mistake,
which
are
properties
that
go
to
the
textile
that
shouldn't
go
to
the
textile.
P
If
you
sell
something,
that's
Dec
so
that
shouldn't
be
sold,
you
have
a
sale
in
there
and,
if
you're,
a
smart
tax,
buyer
you'll,
let
me
know
you
have
a
sale
in
there
two
and
a
half
years
down
the
road
and
collect
one
and
a
half
percent
interest
a
month
on
it.
So
the
key
is
to
do
your
due
diligence,
upfront
I,
hope
to
accomplish
that
before
November
13,
so
that
we
sell
only
sellable
properties.
There
are
slivers
of
properties,
they're
funny
when
you
come
across
them,
they're
very
little.
P
The
major
problem
is
these:
these
full
size,
Lots
and
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
if
we
can
come
up
with
with
a
plan
to
you
know,
III
feel
like
if
we,
if
we
got
ten
Lots,
that
didn't
have
anything
done
with
him
for
the
last
three
years,
we
would
have
achieved
something
so
I
will
report
back
to
you.
If
you
have
any
questions,
I'd
entertain
them.
Mister
I
felt.
Q
Q
Q
Know
we
run
into
a
situation
in
a
an
area
we
developed
up
and
there
were
some
access
easements
left
and
they
were
just
sitting
there
sitting
there
sitting
there.
Not
everybody
wants
to
increase
the
size
of
their
property
by
any
minuscule
amount,
because
it
will
cost
them
three
dollars
more
or
something.
Q
However,
we
were
able
to
divide
those
two
easements
easements
up
that
we're
never
going
to
be
used
again
to
the
property
owners
to
left
and
right,
and
at
least
they're
not
being
billed
out
for
no
reason
again,
and
they
are
then
on
those
people's
shoulders
and
the
little
slivers
in
this.
And
if
you
know,
if
you,
if
you,
if
there's
50
of
them
or
100
of
them
that
are
just
build
over
and
over
and
over
a
year
and
you're
you're
sitting
on
well,
maybe
we
could
think
about
getting
those
to
the
people
next
door.
I.
M
M
You,
mr.
chairman
I,
just
I
would
say
that
would
be
probably
the
first
order
of
business
is
sort
of
you
know,
categorizing
all
those
properties
that
do
occur
over
and
over
and
you
know,
are
they
usable.
Should
they
be
a
join
to
you
know
another
parcel
agent,
Jason,
parcel
and
I.
Think
that's
absolutely
one
of
the
first
things
we
do
because
I
see
those
and
it
is,
we
do
kind
of
laugh
about
it
when
we're
at
the
tax
sale
like
oh
well,.
P
P
Well,
I'll
tell
you
who
I'll
tell
you
who
wants
it,
which
is
really
not
good
for
my
office.
Is
the
unscrupulous
tax
buyers
they
want
it
because
it
holds
up
progress,
Eric
and
I
and
Derek's
credit
he's
always
looking
for
these
and
coming
to
me
with
them.
We
had
an
issue
in
Manteno
with
a
sliver
that
you
know
the
tax
buyer
decided
he
was
gonna.
You
know,
you're
gonna
pay
a
toll
now
to
get
to
your
house,
so
they're
looking
for
those
slippers.
P
C
B
First
page
is
the
HRA
fund.
This
has
been
updated
for
two
months,
not
sure
what
happened
last
month,
but
I
did
not
get
a
chance
to
bring
it
see.
The
trend
in
the
HRA
fund
is
considerably
lower
than
it
was
a
year
ago.
The
updated
information
is
what
we
were
just
talking
about.
Health
insurance
information.
B
B
Specifically,
you
know
that
would
be
County
related.
So
some
a
trend
from
a
year
ago
in
sales,
tax
and
inmate
trend
continues
positive.
It
just
got
a
couple
that
we
know
that
landed
and
the
state
budget
area
and
that's
income
tax
and
replacement
tax,
which
we
both
know
were
going
to
be
we're
gonna
drop
down
we're
seeing
that
trend
already.
A
E
C
E
C
C
B
Some
of
you
may
recall
we
were
talking
about
this
October
November
a
few
years
ago
and
moved
at
December.
This
past
year
was
January
and
we
might
actually
be
able
to
move
to
February
for
the
2018,
which
will
save
us
interest
and
right
now
we're
working
with
two
million
there's
some
budget
items
that
were
working
on.
Obviously,
health
insurance
is
a
major
one
before
I
complete.
B
As
far
as
some
of
the
activities
that's
actual
in
October,
you
know
what
some
of
its
still
saying
estimated.
We
did
pay
the
bond
payments,
the
million
six
hundred
twenty
three
three
eighty
one
is
printed
and
paid,
and
also
the
IMF,
the
six
hundred
and
seven
thousand
from
the
three
payrolls
in
September.
Those
are
both
done
and
gone:
the
2.1
million
of
up
in
the
inflows
of
property
tax
distribution.
That's
an
actual
number
that
came
in
early
earlier
in
the
month,
as
we
still
have
a
few
a
couple
of
more
as
Nick
mentioned
last
meeting.
B
B
B
The
farther
the
thing
that's
out
the
most
like
income
taxes
is
for
the
first
time
and
as
long
as
I
can
remember
right
now,
we're
current
on
income
tax
receipts
were
usually
two
three
four
months
out
on
that,
but
the
one
area,
for
whatever
reason
the
state
is
in
the
probation
grant
need,
is
we
did
get
a
couple
more
months
and
but
we're
maybe
through
February
at
this
point
with
them,
so
they're
still
still
a
few
months
out.
So
hopefully,
hopefully,
you
know
they'll
send
some
money
coming
into
this
and
keep
it
going
through
this.
B
You
know
critical
time
that
we're
heading
into
so,
if
there's
any
questions,
the
TW
czar
paid
back,
the
current
ones
are
paid
back
and
our
bonds
are
paid.
So
those
are
two
major
items.
You
know
we
do
have
one
other
smaller
bond
payment
due
in
January
that
will
pay
in
December,
and
then
we
have
some
interest
due
in
June
that
we
usually
pay
out
in
May
is
about
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
roughly
rounded
sub.
B
G
B
G
Just
to
note
the
February,
that's
it's
two
million
instead
of
three
million
on
the
ta
WS
community
needs
to
remember
that
we're
going
down
by
million
dollars
each
year
to
to
be
able
to
make
things
work
after
February.
We
need
to
line
that
up
before
February.
Obviously
so
there'll
be
some
heavy
lifting
in
the
budget
to
make
sure
that
we
can
get
all
the
way
to
July,
based
on
a
million
dollars
less
than
we're
getting
this
year.
G
So
with
all
of
the
financial
improvements
we
have
made
we're
still
cash
poor
and
we're
still
spending
borrowed
money
until
we
get
out
of
that
hole
and
that
hole
is,
you
know,
substantial
we're
getting
better
a
lot
better,
as
evidenced
by
us
being
able
to
wait
a
month
to
ask
for
tax
anticipation
warrants.
So
it's
a
it
shouldn't
be
lost
on
the
committee
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
and
really
you
know.
We
found
the
bottom
on
sales
tax
and
and
without
the
additional
revenues
coming
in
from
ths
out
of
Justice
way.
G
E
A
C
G
G
That
agreement
expired
in
December,
the
financial
part
of
that,
so
we
still
haven't
figured
out
what
our
end
of
that
is
going
to
be
for
basically
that
number,
and
so
we
that's
going
to
be
wrapped
up
and
into
what
we
do
going
forward
so
and
also
you
know
we're
paying
local
vendors,
because
we
we
made
that
commitment
to
make
sure
that
our
local
vendors
are
taken
care
of
because
we
can't
use
them
for
our
bank.
That's
not
fair,
so
you
know.
Obviously
we
get
stretched
out
and
you
know
February
March
April.
G
You
know
May
in
that
period
next
year,
but
as
it
stands
right
now
we're
pretty
much
caught
up.
You
know
within
that
60-day
cycle,
but
we'd
love
to
be
a
xxx.
Believe
me,
but
that's
we're
just
not
there
yet
so
I
just
thought.
It
was
good
for
committee
to
know
that
our
payables
are
a
lot
lower
and
we're
making
it
work.
C
E
G
Is
part
of
the
discussion
right
now?
What
we're
doing
is
is
we've
exercised
our
option
as
a
buyout
that
triggers
an
appraisal
to
see
what
the
value
of
that
facility
is
per
the
agreement,
so
the
first
step
is
to
see
well
what
is
a
facility
worth
and
how
much
of
that
is
ours,
and
so
that
that's
really
the
first
step.
What
we
want
to
do
is
we
want
to
have
this
done
before
we
do
a
budget
I
mean
that
was
the
ultimate
goal
you
know
is
to
be
able
to
come
back.
G
There's
a
lot
of
savings
for
us
with
the
option
that
mr.
Stauffenberg
just
said.
We
want
to
remain
a
partner
in
a
fabulous
relationship.
We
have
with
those
folks
up
there.
It's
a
great
facility
that
provides
an
absolute
necessity
that
we
have.
We
have
to
have
this
type
of
facility
and
arrangement,
but
it
has
to
be
advantageous
financially
for
us
right
now.
We're
spending
a
lot
more
than
the
actual,
what
we
could
or
should,
and
that's
it
for
us
to
work
out
with
rural
County,
and
they
understand
that
we
just
I
wished
it
was
faster.
B
G
The
budget
wise
were
assembling,
all
of
the
departments
were
emailing
Steve
with
their
budget
numbers.
There
was
clarification
because
we're
trying
to
estimate
you
know
cost
and
employee
costs
going
up
by
two
percent
and
it
seems
to
be
about
what's
across
the
board,
so
we
had
to
clarify
that
with
the
department.
Are
you
including
that?
Are
you
not
that's?
Just
the
word
go.
G
You
know
two
percent
cost
increased
across
the
board,
so
that
process
say
we're
pretty
close
to
being
that
plugged
in
but
again,
health
insurance
is
a
major
part
of
this,
because
that
what
if
it's
four
hundred
it's
not
gonna,
be
eight
hundred
I'm
telling
you
that
if
it's
four
hundred,
where
does
that
come
from
you
know,
so
that
has
to
be
plugged
into
a
budget,
and
things
like
that.
So
there
are
a
couple
of
moving
pieces.
There's
a
substantial
part
of
this,
also
on
the
general
fund
with
the
wool
county
situation
as
well.
G
A
B
B
G
B
Is
not
a
group
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
they
do
on
on?
All
of
that
they
are
federal
grants,
workforce
and
others
go
through
extensive
federal,
extensive
audit
in
comparison
to
the
federal
guidelines
that
we
are
required
to
follow,
so
that
is
yeah
and
not
detecting.
You
mentioned
not
detecting
irregularities.
B
The
the
testing
is
meant
to
bring
up
the
irregularities
and
then
one
if
irregularities
are
found,
and
then
they
dive
deeper
into
it.
But
for
like
accounts
payable,
for
example,
you
know
they
take.
They
take
pictures
throughout
the
year,
as
we
know
the
claims
that
we
have
to
pull
for
them,
that
they
were
that
they
review.
B
You
know
they
I
know
they
do
cache
very
detailed.
They
do
payroll
very
detailed.
You
know
receipts
very
detailed.
You
know
those
are
the
items.
The
cash
flow
items
were.
If
there's
gonna
be
a
financial
situation,
it
would
be
in
one
of
those
areas,
and
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
work
done
in
those
areas
and
the
fact
that
there
are
no
irregularities
means
the
process
is
working
and
we
have
a
financial
policy
and
procedure
manual
that
identifies
who
does
what
and
they
do
audit
to
make
sure
that
that
takes
place
so
that
there's
no.
B
You
know
as
far
as
who's
doing
what
and
when
you
know,
is
a
segregation,
a
duty
which
you
know
if
you've
ever
read
about
anything,
that's
happening
and
whether
it's
a
private
business
or
a
government.
It's
usually
when
somebody
jumps
over
the
segregation
of
duty
and
does
double
up
and
is
usually
were
the
people
that
get
away.
B
You
know
try
to
get
away
with
something
you
know
financially,
whether
they're
purchasing
something
or
whether
we're
taking
money
out
of
the
bank
or
whatever,
so
that
segregation
of
duty
in
our
in
our
policy
and
procedure
manual
outlining
the
duties
and
who
does
what
is
also
watched
very
closely.
So
it
yeah
I'm,
not
sure
I'm,
just
assuming
his
lack
of
experience
and
lack
of
knowledge,
of
what
we're
doing
brought
that
up.
B
But
to
me
it
wasn't
fair
to
our
outside
auditors
who
have
done
an
outstanding
job
and
do
an
outstanding
job
and
we're
exposed
to
two
major
audits
a
year,
including
you
know,
from
our
outside
auditors.
We
get
state
monitors
auditors
coming
in
for
our
workforce
funds
and
then
we're
also
partially
involved
with
the
when
I'm
a
rough
shows
up.
So
you
know
this
is
I,
don't
think
that
was
fair
professionally
to
our
outside
auditors.
Some
of
the
things
that
were
said
there
I
would.
G
B
B
Something
we
have
to
do
you
know,
and
you
know
they
make
sure
that
we're
doing
what
we're
say.
We're
doing
you
know
and
follow-through.
You
know
and
that's
that's
an
important
piece.
You
know
and
when
I
started
some
of
the
board
members
here
maybe
may
remember
that
some
of
these
processes
were
not
in
place
and
we
had
federal
grant
agencies
wanting.
M
B
Ebay
I
believe
it
was
$350,000,
because
there
was
audit
findings
and
you
know
if
you
can't
prove
the
money
that
they're
giving
you
is
going
towards
the
the
program
that
it's
supposed
to
do.
They
want
their
money
back,
you
know,
and
that
money
you
know
obviously
was
already
spent
on
that,
but
because
the
procedures
were
not
in
place
at
that
point
time,
they
were
like
okay,
pay
us
back
and
that
took
yeah.
K
B
Four
years
of
when
I
first
walked
through
the
door
to
get
that
taken
care
of,
and
it's
the
only
way
you
take
care
of
it-
is
to
improve
and
document
your
financial
policies
and
procedures
and
what
you're
doing
and
keep
doing
them.
And
you
know
we
have
done
those,
and
we
continue
to
do
that
and
and
that's
why
there
are
no
art
findings.
It's
not
because
our
outside
auditors
on
doing
their
job.
It's
because
we're
doing
it
correctly
and
internally.
So.
G
B
We
can
only
do
it
one,
the
one
that
one
the
year
ends
but
I
plug
in
the
formulas
on
whether
its
payroll,
whether
its
receipts,
you
know
the
receipts
that
you
get
each
year
identify
the
accrual
versus
of
cash.
You
know
when
it
shows
up
what
month
is
for
all
of
that
gets
accounted
for
and
in
the
projections
or
budget
or
you
know.
Obviously
the
urine
report
is
all
got
the
same
process
see
as
far
as
the
year
of
you
know.
The
projections
are
all
based
on
that
that
modified
accrual,
so
talking
system
and.
G
B
J
B
B
You
know
the
both
Nicole
and
I
and
now
Chris
and
I.
We
have
access
to
every
piece,
every
aspect
in
the
system
of
the
accounting
system,
financial
reporting
system.
However,
we
do
not
have
access
just
because
we
can
see
the
cash
counter
or
the
reconciliation
area.
It's
because
we
help
everybody
that
needs
help,
but
I
have
no
access
to
the
maker
cartridge
that
prints
the
checks.
B
I
don't
have
access
to
the
to
the
check
stock,
nor
do
I
have
access
to
any
bank
accounts
so
seeing
it
in
the
system
is
only
a
partial
partial
of
what
actually
takes
place.
You
know,
as
far
as
that
check
and
balance,
so
you
know
that
that
understanding
sometimes
gets
well.
They
can
do
anything
well,
yeah,
seeing
anything
and
being
able
to
make
an
adjustment.
To
anything
doesn't
mean
you
can
walk
away
with
anything.
B
Keeping
everything
going
where
it
needs
to
go
is
just
more
of
the
fact
that
we
have
to
just
because
we
have
to
make
sure
that
when
it
does
happen,
it
happens
as
accurately
as
possibly
because
we
don't
have
the
time
to
keep.
You
know
to
go
back
and
fix.
You
know
on
the
review
and
analyze,
so
the
processes
that
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
that
and
we
try
to
keep
the
same
thing
going
because
it's
working
and
we
don't
have
enough
help
with
it,
get
some
undone.
B
You
know
I
had
to
redo
it
or
to
go
back
and
fix
it.
So
it's
a
very
important
process
and
and
nothing
against
our
payroll,
but
our
payroll
company.
If
they
get
something
new,
what
we
found
is
they
can
throw
our
cash
off
if
some
new
code
gets
put
in
there
and
it
doesn't
get
coded
correctly
and
it's
not
the
payroll
person
Julian's
fault
there.
B
When,
when
the
report
comes
out
in
the
JIT
and
general
ledger
comes
out,
we
have
to
watch
real
close
if
there's
something
new,
because
what
we
have
found
is
if
we
let
it
go
too
far,
we're
now
looking
at
months
of
payroll
having
to
go
back
and
redo
because
they've
thrown
our
cash
flow
off
and
that's
that
from
our
payroll
administration
company,
not
anyone
internally.
So
there's
a
lot
of
moving
parts
and
a
lot
of
things
keep
an
eye
on
and
when
we
find
something
we
make
sure
we
go
back
and
we
plug
it.
J
G
There
ever
been
any
since
you
fixed
the
in
the
policy
manual
since
that
was
fixed
by
yourself
and
I.
Believe
chairman
OU's
was
around
then
when
that
happened,
the
separation
of
duties
has
that
ever
been.
Is
there
ever
been
a
problem
with
that?
Has
that
ever
been
validated
that
things
are
going
the
way
they
should?
As
far
as
the
separation
of
duties?
Are
there
any
issues
there?
Currently,
no.
B
E
R
R
However,
we
still
have
a
long
way
to
go,
and
but
I
think
you
know
just
heading
in
the
right
direction
is
is
half
the
battle.
If
we
continue
to
move
that
way,
I
think
things
will
turn
around
rather
quickly
but
kudos
to
you
and
the
board
and
the
department
heads
who
work
their
tails
off
to
come
within
budget
and
do
the
right
things
so
that
we
can
get
back
to
where
we
are
and
Steve
congratulations
on
the
award
is
well
deserved,
so
the
ice
update,
our
numbers
are
remaining
consistent.
R
R
R
And
it's
due
at
1:00
o'clock,
Central
Time,
two
o'clock,
Eastern
Time
for
those
of
you
that
probably
know
this.
We
have
submitted
three
previous
proposals
back
in
2010,
2014
and
2016
for
virtually
the
same
thing,
and
these
proposals
are
for
a
regional
facility.
Isis
goal
is
to
start
to
limit
the
number
of
holding
facilities
that
they
have
out
there
so
that
they
can
better
have
an
idea
of
where
their
detainees
are,
because,
quite
frankly,
even
in
dealing
with
them
now
there's
some
confusion
as
to
where
somebody
is
so.
R
I
have
a
lot
of
the
information
from
from
previous
submittals.
However,
this
proposal
they're
asking
for
a
lot
more,
and
so
we
are
or
I
am
putting
those
together
since
last
Friday
and
we're
still
still
working
on
those
and
we'll
probably
be
working
on
them
for
quite
a
while
until
we
get
it
submitted
tomorrow
morning.
The
advantage,
though
now
is
the
the
last
three
proposals.
We
had
no
ice
detainees,
so
you
know
they
may
have
looked
at
Kankakee
and
said:
well,
they
don't
have
ice
detainees,
so
why
even
consider
them?
R
G
G
A
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
S
G
H
R
R
Last
thing
and
and
I've
made
the
criminal
justice
committee
aware
this
over
the
last
couple
months,
but
our
local
population
as
much
as
our
ice
population
and
our
marshals
population,
is
heading
in
the
right
direction.
Our
local
population
is
heading
in
the
wrong
direction,
I
think
overall,
over
the
course
of
the
year.
If
we
were
to
report
as
they
do
in
in
most
criminal
justice
realms,
you
know
our
average
daily
population
is
230
and
that
sounds
like
a
workable
number.
The
problem
is
over
the
last
three
months.
R
Our
average
daily
population
is
270,
so
those
are
numbers
in
it
and
again
40
inmates
do
not
sound
like
a
lot.
I
mean
it's
it's
what
we
do
for
a
living,
so
we
you
know,
we
we
deal
with
whatever
comes
in
to
jail,
but
when
you
start
talking
about
food
medical
transports,
the
burden
that
it
places
on
the
State's,
Attorney's
Office,
the
public
defender,
the
clerk
and
probation,
as
we've
said
before
it
affects
everybody,
it
doesn't
affect
just
Corrections.
So
you
know
keep
that
in
mind
and
I.
R
You
know
will
continue
report
on
that
as
we
go,
you
know
and
there's
some
pros
and
cons
of
that.
Obviously
the
pros
are
the
bad
guys
are
coming
off
the
street,
and
so
those
are
positive
things.
Of
course,
the
con
is
that
cost
money
and
we
ultimately
the
county,
is
who
houses
these
people
feeds
and
clothe
them
transports
and
provides
medical
to
them
and
all
that
stuff
that
we're
required
to
do
statutorily.
So
just
a
heads
up
that
those
local
numbers
are
where
they
are
and
we'll.
R
Certainly,
we
certainly
work
very
well
with
the
state's
attorney
when
we
have
an
individual
in
our
custody,
who
has
a
low
bond
who
has
a
non
serious
offense.
We
work
on
trying
to
expedite
that
case
through
the
system
to
get
that
person
out
of
jail
to
prison
to
rehab
wherever
it
is
that
person's
going
once
he
leaves,
but
we
do
work
closely
with
them
to
do
those
things
so
I
mean
we
are.
You
know
it
is
a
team
effort.
If
you
will
and
that's
all
I
got
I.
R
Didn't
see
what
was
exactly
posted
I
know
that
ice
is
very
happy
with
our
food
provider
and
and
we
do
pay
a
little
extra
for
it.
But
if
you,
if
you
can
put
yourself
in
a
position
of
being
in
custody-
and
we
certainly
hope
on
all
the
fraud-
talk
that
we've
had
earlier
in
this
meeting-
that
that's
not
the
case
with
anybody.
R
But
if
you
put
yourself
in
custody
and
know
that
you're
at
least
getting
a
decent
meal,
that's
one
less
thing
that
our
guys
have
to
deal
with
in
complaining
about
food,
throwing
their
food
back
because
they
don't
like
it.
I
mean
those
things
all
add
up,
that
our
our
food
service
is
top-notch
and
and
as
I
tell
often
tell
people
and
I
know.
This
doesn't
sound
very
good
when
you
talk
about
it
in
the
public,
but
it
is
what
it
is.
If
mr.
R
C
Roy
decides
to
cater
a
party
for
his
family,
he's
gonna
get
a
certain
type
of
food
that
same
food
is
not
what's
being
catered
at
the
jail
just
so
people
understand
that
they
are
getting
top-notch
food,
but
it's
not
the
stuff
that
we
get
at
when
we
cater
a
party
for
ourselves.
So
I
know
some
people
question
it
all.
They
get.
The
country
table
great,
giving
them
everything
they're
getting
they're
getting
the
requirements
they
need,
based
on
the
only
kind
of
GL
standards
based
on
ice
based
on
the
Marshalls.
So
now.
R
A
C
T
T
We
used
to
have
four
floater
minute
clerks
and
a
supervisor
I'm
down
to
two
flutter'
minute
clerks
and
the
supervisor
is
in
court
every
day
covering
this
juvenile
court
call
as
it
is
a
lot
of
her,
things
are
being
pushed
aside
and
she
gets
them
done
as
when
she
can
because
she's
in
court.
She
will
be
then
training
the
new
person.
Once
we
hire
that
person.
We
just
hired
another
one
recently
and
he
is
now
on
his
own
with
the
judge.
T
So
that's
all
working
well,
but
the
problems
that
we're
having
we've
with
the
new
state's
attorney
he's
added
his
own
collection
court
call
the
outside
collection
agency
that
we
have
Harrison,
Harris
they're,
now
doing
a
wage
deduction.
Court
call
and
the
city
of
Kankakee
also
has
a
collection,
call
that
they
have
in
front
of
the
courts.
So
the
minute
clerks
that
I
have
right
now
and
the
floaters
they
can't
keep
up
with
what
they've
got
and
then
we're
adding
these
other
court
calls.
T
On
top
of
it,
we've
taken
one
of
the
staff
members
out
of
the
main
office
to
go
to
court
for
a
couple
of
these
collection
court
calls,
but
then
that's
pulling
her
away
from
the
jobs
that
she's
supposed
to
be
doing
in
the
main
office
as
well.
So
we're
super
stretched.
The
bookkeeper
she's
new,
since
July
she's
been
swimming
right
along,
but
one
the
problem
she
has
is
all
these
people
are
calling
when
their
cases
are
dismissed
in
their
bond
is
supposed
to
be
returned
to
them.
T
The
clerk's
that
are
in
court
aren't
having
enough
time
to
get
the
paperwork
done,
to
give
it
to
the
bookkeeper
for
the
bookkeeper
to
then
make
the
check
and
send
it
out
to
the
people
that
are
getting
their
bond
money
back
so
I
mean
the
trickle-down
effect
has
been
tremendous.
There
was
another
clerk
that
just
turned
in
a
an
expungement
order
from
court
that
was
from
July
somehow,
because
she
can't
focus
on
her
work.
T
Some
of
the
things
you
know
that
piece
of
paper
probably
got
put
somewhere
and
then
she
found
it
and
turned
it
in
so
the
person
that
their
case
was
expunged
hasn't
gone
through
the
process.
Yet
so
things
are
falling
through
the
cracks
and
it's
becoming
a
problem.
I
had
another
judge
come
in
yesterday
there
were
three
or
four
major
issues
in
her
court
call
with
paperwork
a
couple
of
them.
She
didn't
blame
on
our
office.
She
blamed
the
outside
attorney
that
submitted
the
paperwork
on
Friday.
T
T
Just
the
flow
of
paperwork
isn't
getting
to
where
it
needs
to
be,
because
there's
too
many
other
things
that
are
going
on
and
not
enough
people
to
do
the
work
so
I'm
asking
for
at
least
one
floor
minute,
Clerk
I
was
asked
to
find
out
bring
the
dollar
amount.
The
dollar
amount
was
twenty
four
thousand
eight
hundred
dollars
for
that
position,
and
that's
just
my
cost.
T
You
know
making
sure
that
helping
just
helping
out
with
a
lot
of
the
higher
level
portions
of
the
of
the
position
she's
not
able
to
do
because
she's
in
the
trenches
doing
all
these
things.
So
the
other
position
that
I'm
looking
for
to
refill
is
the
assistant
to
the
chief
deputy,
which
would
also
be
another
twenty
four
thousand
eight
hundred
dollar
position.
T
Someday
I
would
like
to
get
back
up
to
the
four
floater
clerks
and
the
supervisor.
We
have
ten
courtrooms
in
these
other
various
court
calls,
and
we
just
we
don't
have
enough
staffing
level
to
get
the
full
time
clerks.
The
criminal
courts
and
the
traffic
courts
are
the
higher
volume
court
calls
and
while
the
judges
appreciate
having
their
one
steady
clerk
in
with
them
every
day,
there's
all
the
paperwork
that
needs
to
be
done
afterwards
and
entering
into
the
computer,
and
just
the
court
dates
keeping
the
calendars
in
updated
and
everything.
T
So,
even
if
the
floaters
didn't
go
into
court,
they
could
at
least
take
some
of
the
work
and
take
the
burden
off
of
the
clerk.
You
know
to
finalize
the
cases.
Do
the
dispositions
get
the
cases
closed
and
ready
to
go,
for
you
know
like
the
Secretary
of
State
and
the
be
of
AI
and
all
that
any
questions.
H
T
My
budget
and
I
use
every
fund
that
I
can
that
will
allow
staffing
to
come
out
of
it.
So
all
funds
except
the
e
citation
fund,
because
that's
designated
just
towards
e
citation
and
stuff
and
the
automation
fund.
The
chief
judge
in
his
designee
are
not
at
this
moment,
going
to
allow
any
salaries
coming
out
of
there,
but
I
use
as
much
as
I
can
at
a
document,
storage
and
out
of
and
I
looked
at
that
yesterday
and
that
would
be
around
$200,000
I.
Think
I
could
use
salaries.
T
For
that
then
I
have
the
child
support.
That's
out
of
the
general
fund.
Part
of
the
salaries
come
out
of
there,
part
of
the
salaries
come
out
of
the
clerk
operating
and
administration
fund
and
the
driver
Improvement
Program
the
person
that
does
a
lot
of
the
paperwork
for
the
people
that
go
to
driving
school.
We
get
reimbursed
for
that.
So
salaries
come
out
of
there,
so
it
would
be
general
fund
document
storage,
a
clerk
up
in
the
admin
and
Driver
improvement.
That
would
be
so
that's
why
I
need
to
work
with
all
of
my
budgets.
T
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T
Well,
our
software.
We
have
a
case
management
system
that
is,
it
involves
the
state's
attorneys,
a
part
of
it,
the
the
probation
and
public
defender
this
the
sheriff
has
has
the
ability
to
be
involved
with
it,
but
we
don't
have
any
components
that
work
together.
So
this
particular
case
management
system
that
we
have.
We
went
with
that
in
2009
and
it
was
like
a
three
million
dollar
project
to
get
that
going
for
its.
What
we
have
is.
T
I
It's
more
simple
than
that.
No
I
understand
I'm,
saying
that
you
would
look
and
when
you're
talking
to
people
see
if
there's
systems
out
there
that
work
better
than
our
system,
we
could
always
have
a
long-range
plan
and
a
short-term
plan
short
term
is.
We
need
bodies
right
long
range
is
we
need
to
do
it
more
efficiently,
and
this
may
be
the
way
to
do
it.
Well,.
T
Then
the
other
problem
that
it,
like
every
other
department,
there's
a
lot
of
moving
parts.
So
then
what
happens?
Is
legislation
changes
rules
a
lot
on
us
and
reporting
the
different
things
that
we
have
to
report
the
additions
we
have
to?
We
have
to
report
to
too
many
people
or
additional
people
all
the
time
there.
I
Is
software
available
and
I
know
that
you
can
belong
to
a
system
pay
so
much
a
month
and
those
updates
are
done
automatically
and
they
could
be
done
according
to
law.
I
would
recommend
that
we
look
at
not
saying
that
we
can
do
it
because
it
made
to
be
cost
prohibitive,
but
look
at
improving
software
hardware
and
communication
between
the
county
to
see
if
you've
been
simplified
work
more
accurately,
you
talked
about
paper
getting
lost,
maybe
that's
an
input
by
the
clerk
or
somebody
else,
and
it's
in
the
computer.
T
U
There's
a
little
bit
of
mistrust
misrepresentation
of
how
the
software
runs,
but
the
number
one
thing
I
want
to
say
about
this
committee
is
our
to
the
committee
is
I.
Think
that
requests
that
you
had
was
a
good
question.
It
would
need
to
more
be
addressed
with
an
E
and
E
or
the
Chairman,
and
then
chairman
would
address
it
with
the
chief
judge,
because
you
don't
have
jurisdiction
over
that.
U
But
it's
a
great
question
and
the
modules
for
the
departments
other
than
one
department
all
do
work
together,
not
to
the
point
where
she's
asking
for
the
request,
but
I
I
don't
want
to
put
it
out
there
that
we,
but
the
courts
spent
three
million
dollars
on
a
system
that
doesn't
work
together.
It
specifically
does
do
that,
but
any
questions
you
would
have
would
need
to
go
through
the
Chairman.
Andy
has
a
working
relationship
with
the
chief
judge
and
you'll
address
it.
That
way.
U
G
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V
And
then,
if
budget
wise,
cuz
the
budgets
gonna
go
down
a
million
at
least
everywhere,
so
I
hate,
you
know,
I
know
everybody
needs
this,
but
mr.
Kings
and
hit
it
on
the
head.
It
were
foolish
if
we're
keep
putting
things
in
the
budget
that
we're
gonna
have
to
take
out
in
a
month.
I,
you
know,
I,
don't
want
you
to
do
that
to
people
you
know,
hire
somebody
and
then
have
to
lay
them
off,
or
you
know
other
departments
having
to
do
the
same.
V
T
V
A
V
B
B
K
G
Thank
you
just
briefly.
The
I
think
we
see
the
need.
We
know
that
only
nylon
and
the
work
I
mean
the
chief
judge
said
it,
but
with
with
such
big
chunks
of
the
budget,
still
hanging
out
there,
that
50
may
need
to
come
in
to
plug
somewhere
else,
and
maybe
you
can
only
be
25
and
that
will
be
spread
out
amongst
all
departments
to
cover
a
four
and
a
$50,000
increase
in
health
insurance.
That's
why
I'm
saying
maybe
go
through
the
the
process
of
interviews
and
identifying
your
candidates.
It
won't
be
wasted
time.
G
G
T
It's,
not
that
you
know
and
I
want
to
commend
several
clerks
that
if
they
are
caught
up
on
their
work,
they
are
offering
to
help
other
clerks
using
the
additional
time
cap
time
for
themselves,
while
they're
helping
other
clerks
so
I
mean
everybody's,
been
working
together
very
well,
it's
not
like
anyone
is
causing.
You
know
the
ripple
effect
that
they
are
really
pulling
their
weight.
So
I
just
want
to
make
that
no.
V
A
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S
What's
going
on
in
our
office,
our
autopsies
are
extremely
up
right
now,
as
it
looks
like
if
we
come
in
at
the
end
of
November,
adding
the
roughly
30
more
autopsies
on
than
what
we
were
scheduled
to
go
is
roughly
about
$50,000
and
you've
got
to
remind
yourself
that
there's
so
much
more
investigation
now
we're
out
on
the
streets
a
little
bit
more.
A
lot
of
these
are
very
complicated
cases.
What
we're
doing
we've
been
also
we've
been
because
of
the
of
the
epidemic.
S
S
Just
about
that
we're
having
not
only
in
schools
the
churches
to
trying
to
get
this
out
of
the
problem,
we're
having
we're
gonna
hit,
as
I
told
you
at
the
beginning
that
we
I
thought
we'd
run
right
around
51
we're
gonna
hit
over
60
overdoses,
I
checked
yesterday
at
will
they're
at
77
I
checked
the
page
at
98
and
I
checked
it
down
in
Champaign,
which
is
38
to
maybe
40
that
they
might
think
they're
gonna
have
we're
a
hundred
and
twelve
thousand,
and
that's
where
we're
at
right.
Now
that's
astronomical
of
a
big
problem.
S
We
have,
and
both
of
us
have
been
working
extremely
hard.
It's
a
lot
of
stress
built
on
to
us,
but
we're
making
it
and
that
I'm
asking
that
I
need
to
have
a
full-time
person,
because
I
want
to
also
also
tell
you
that
we
did
receive.
You
talked
about
money-wise.
We
did
receive
two
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand
dollar
grant,
which
one
Eric
and
I
go
out
to
speak
they're,
paying
us
for
it.
I,
don't
get
it
out
of
my
into
my
pocket.
It
goes
into
the
general
fund.
S
Not
only
is,
if
that's
going
to
be
very
helpful
equipment
that
we
needed
to
have
County
doesn't
have
to
buy
it,
we'll
buy
it
out
of
the
225,
so
we're
getting
another
laptop
and,
along
with
the
screen,
so
only
go
to
different
places
that
don't
have
it.
We
at
least
can
provide
that
and
that
doesn't
cost
us
anything.
S
We
also
also,
as
you
know,
that
I
have
the
corners
fees
in
the
last
three
years,
I
put
$100,000
into
the
into
the
county
that
you
would
have
had
to
pay
for
two
cars
x-ray
machine
that
we're
out
it
was
deleted
on
all
the
different
formulas.
We
had
to
go
digital,
the
portable
radios
that
we
bought
that
you
have
to
have
and
coming
up
here
in
the
next
few
years
everybody
has
to
have
a
new
radio
system.
S
Also
in
the
car
radios
we
had
to
buy
the
car
radios,
which
aren't
are
much
more
expensive.
We
got
them
at
a
pretty
good
pace
right
now
we
got
a
good
good
deal
out
of
it.
I
painted
our
offices
at
the
morgue
because
they
were
downs
over
12
years
by
Union
people
that
came
in
and
did
that
that
was
paid
for
out
of
my
funds.
S
I've
just
got
through
cleaning
the
more
it
hasn't
been
touched
on
in
twelve
years.
We
clean
it.
My
staff
queens
it's
because
of
the
blood-borne
passages,
that's
all
cleaned
up
and
looking
extremely
well,
and
that
was
done
by
service
Pro
and
our
entire
staff
helps
us
clean
at
all
times
we're
bringing
in
and
I'm
and
I'm
going
to
show
you
because
your
that's
why
I
got
Eric
that
does
most
of
my
payroll
I'm
gonna
show
you
what
what
we
can
do
for
the
county
and
I'm
constantly.
S
You
know
chairman
how
much
I
am
for
the
county
and
I
watch
all
the
meetings
and
when
I
have
people
that
have
questions
a
lot
of
people.
Don't
come
out
to
see
us
but
I
understand
that.
But
it's
been
very
busy.
I
also
just
got
off
the
phone
with
NMS
labs,
we're
going
to
shoot
us
another
four
percent
because
of
Cook
County
and
because
of
being
Secretary
of
the
anoint
corners
I
was
able
to
spot
that
called
NMS
labs
and
tell
them
lookit
you
can't.
S
You
can't
give
us
another
four
percent
one
when
we
just
got
you
Cook
County,
the
Illinois
corners,
which
is
the
biggest
prize
that
they
got
was
Cook.
County
is
a
huge
we're
now
they
said
instead
of
that,
we're
going
to
go
1%
one.
So
that's
again
we're
saving
money,
I'm
asking
for
a
full
time
and
I'm
gonna
tell
you
how
much
it's
gonna
cost.
O
So
everybody
have
a
sheet
I
think
it
was
in
the
packet
Diane
sent
out
so
right
now
we
would
pay
a
part-time
employee
to
cover
the
shift
that
the
full-time
employee
would
cover
thirty
two
thousand
one
hundred
ten
dollars,
whereas
the
full-time
employee
will
cost
thirty
eight
to
ninety
three:
that's
what
the
salary
will
be
so
a
difference
of
61.
Eighty
three
met
with
Steve
McCarty
and
did
our
budget
request?
O
So
if
we
look
at
the
total
benefit
cost
of
17
623
and
we
take
out
what
the
county's
insurance
portion
is,
that
leaves
80
to
31.
That's
the
I
MRF,
the
unemployment's
Social
Security,
whatever
the
other
deductions,
are
they
come
out
so
total
package
wise
for
an
additional
employee,
we're
looking
at
just
over
just
under
fourteen
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
to
add
on
sixty
about
sixty
two
hundred
dollars
of
it
comes
from
our
portion
of
it,
and
the
remaining
80
200
would
come
out
of
the
county's
part
for
those
benefits.
O
G
You,
mr.
chairman,
the
first
of
all,
it
doesn't
fall
on
deaf
ears.
The
amount
of
money
you
spend
out
of
the
coroner's
fund.
Special
funds-
you're-
not
not
hoarding,
is
not
the
right
word,
but
you're,
not
just
using
it
on
you
know,
leaving
it
sit
there
in
a
kitty,
you're,
actually
using
it
on
things
to
save,
because
we
have
to
buy
you
the
vehicles
you
we'd
have
to
buy
the
body
bags
or
whatever
you're
buying
out
of
that
fund.
So
that's
not
lost
on
me.
G
That's
a
that's
$100,000
savings
at
the
county
over
three
years,
direct
that
the
Finance
Committee
needs
to
know
about
now.
This
three
percent
is
that
the
savings
before
percent
down
to
one
percent
is
that
increase
over
what
their
current
costs
are.
Our
charges,
this
NMS
or
what
was
the
he
said
that
they
were
gonna
charge,
us
four
percent
and
it's
going
to
be
1
1
1.
G
That's
an
increase,
but
how
much
of
a
savings
2500
2500?
Ok,
so
that
kind
of
adds
into
this
a
little
bit.
So
do
you
see
this
if
you
were
balancing
everything
out
as
a
cost
neutral
proposition,
because
I'm
trying
to
do
that?
The
numbers
in
my
head
versus
what
you
have
saved
us
versus
what
you
project
to
be
coming
in
that
we
don't
have
to
pay
from
other
sources
cuz
that
matters
to
this
decision,
because
you're
taking
you're
just
taking
a
part-time
to
full-time?
G
You
know
this,
isn't
you
know
anything
else,
but
you
know
and
then
the
the
extra
benefits
that
you're
adding
on
to
it
with
the
vacation
and
things
like
that.
So
that's
why
I'm
tending
to
support
it,
because
it
seems
like
there's
already
things
you're
doing,
to
spend
extra
money
out
of
your
department
to
support
what
you
do
that
we
would
have
to.
Does
that
make
sense
the
way
I
put
it
I
mean
it's
it's
kind
of
convoluted,
but
it's
true!
You
know.
If
it's
worth
statutorily,
we
have
to
pay
for
the.
G
S
A
D
I
You
mr.
chairman,
recently
I
learned
about
the
Amazon
proposal
and
I
would
like
to
recognize
County
Board
leadership,
particularly
Andy
wheeler.
We
then
reached
out
to
mr.
Lindsay
Parkhurst,
definitely
out-of-the-box
thinking
and
in
the
words
of
one
commercial
realtor,
the
most
innovative,
innovative
idea
that
he's
heard
in
recent
time.
I
K
Thank
You
chairman:
it's
just
a
reminder:
if,
for
those
that
don't
know
that
Friday
night
is
a
drug
court
auction,
it's
a
fundraiser
for
those
people,
so
I
haven't
talked
to
mr.
Latham.
Yet,
but
I
bet,
you
he's,
got
some
tickets
that
he'd
like
to
sell
I'd
like
to
see
you
afterwards.
A
night
in
honor
of
mr.
Mulcahy
I
would
make
a
motion
on
his
behalf.
I.