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Finance Committee Meeting 8/29/2018 9:00 AM
B
C
A
D
E
Morning,
all
right
guys
just
have
two
things:
I'm
gonna
say
the
word
achievement
one
time
because
I
know
Andy
giggles
every
time.
I
say
that
word.
We
talked
about
that
before
when
we
were
up
here.
The
law
says
that
we
can,
after
so
many
years,
money
that
we
have
that's
stagnant
or
that
has
now
been
claimed
must
be
sent
to
the
state.
It's
the
law
and
unfortunately,
we
haven't
followed
it
and
so
I'm
happy
to
report
that
we
applied
to
the
treasurer
for
an
exemption
to
say
we're.
Sorry,
please
don't
penalize
us.
E
E
E
Know
that
they've
asked
us
to
send
money
back
as
far
back
as
2009.
So
that's
what
we've
done-
okay,
but
it's
we've
never
sent
an
account
as
far
as
I
can
tell
as
a
County,
okay
and
and
I
will
tell
you
most
of
it
is
jury
checks
which
aren't
for
a
large
sums
of
money.
But
there
are
some
other
larger
sums
number
two,
it's
tax
time.
As
many
people
know
we
are,
we
are
trying
to
collect
192
million,
that's
so
basically
the
levy
and
we're
at
about
170
right
now.
E
E
Recognizing
the
banks
and
I
think
we'll
do
that
moving
forward.
The
amount
of
work
that
the
banks
are
doing
for
us
in
this
county
is
unbelievable.
It
would
take
two
more
full-time
people
to
collect
all
the
tax
we
still
collect
the
most
here,
but
we,
the
the
banks,
have
been
incredible.
We
have
a
bank
that
will
collect
near
20
million
itself,
one
bank
which
is
unbelievable
and
I,
don't
know
if
I've
talked
about
it
or
if
anybody
knows,
but
I
Institute
in
Auto
an
automatic
or
electronic
escrow
service
this
year.
D
E
Now
pay
to
this
electronic
system
and
we
make
$2.00
per
payment
from
these
out-of-town
escrow
agents.
So
we
will
collect
this
year
additional
revenue
to
the
county
$25,000
for
the
payment
of
those
escrow
taxes
from
these
out-of-town
company
entities,
and
so
it's
my
hope
that
we
come
back
here
next
year
and
we
talk
about.
Maybe
you
know
God
willing
if
the
election
goes
my
way,
we'll
talk
about
reducing
duplicate
bill
fees,
we'll
talk
about
lowering
costs
on
our
taxpayers
because
we
can
move
some
of
those
revenues.
E
A
E
Jim
can
I
have
one
last
thing
here:
I
did
want
to
say:
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
mention
that
treasure.
Our
auditor
Lee
is
the
one
who
found
the
fact
that
we
hadn't
been
sending
our
money
to
Springfield,
so
he
brought
that
up
and
without
him,
I
wouldn't
have
known
about
it,
and
so
I'm
grateful
to
him
that
we
we
found
out
about
it
and
could
get
it
done.
Thank
you.
A
F
With
the
last
minute,
we
were
able
to
get
information
from
our
insurance
folks
and
they
were
going
to
make
a
presentation
to
the
board
and
I
was
hoping.
Maybe
we
could
do
that
first
before
Steve
gets
into
it
because
they
might
want
to
hit
the
road
to
to
get
to
where
they
got
to
be.
So,
if
that's,
that's,
okay,
there's
nothing
to
vote
on.
It's
informational
and
should
be
part
of
this
section.
Since
we're
gonna
be
talking
about
budget
stuff
down
the
road
as
well
acceptable,
Steve,.
H
Attempts
to
make
some
savings
has
passed
on
this
year,
the
best
renewal
that
I've
seen
since
we've
been
here,
a
four
point:
nine
percent
increase
and
that's
prior
to
us
doing
anything
about
it.
Any
negotiation.
Any
market
changes
that
we
can
find,
but
to
support
a
little
bit
of
this.
That
I
wanted
to
take
you
back
a
couple
of
years
and
just
kind
of
review.
What
had
gone
on
in
2015,
United
Healthcare
came
to
the
county
and
its
first
first
contract
was
for
15
months.
H
The
the
increase
was
significant,
but
we
made
some
plan
design
changes
and
knocked
down
the
original
four
million
179
500
to
about
3
million
635,
and
that
resulted
in
the
savings
of
that
year
of
about
five
hundred
and
forty
four
thousand
dollars
the
next
year.
The
renewal,
unfortunately
again
because
of
the
experience,
was
about
twenty
seven
point:
nine
percent
and
we
were
able
to
redesign
some
of
the
plans
we
recommended.
H
If
some
of
you
might
remember
that
the
HRA
was
done
away
with
and
that
expense
was
taken
out
of
the
budget,
but
that
year,
due
to
these
plan,
changes
and
discounts,
we
saved
about
six
hundred
and
six
thousand
dollars.
So
so,
if
you
look
at
the
two-year
savings
which
includes
you
know,
2017
and
2018,
along
with
the
average
that
was
in
the
HRA,
that's
a
two-year
savings
of
about
a
million
four
hundred
and
thirty
five
thousand
dollars
over
the
expenses
that
you
would
have
paid
had.
H
This
not
occurred
the
negotiation
and
the
plan,
design
changes,
and
so
this
year
the
third
renewal.
It
stands
at
four
point:
nine
percent
and
I
think
in
and
of
itself
it's
a
very
good
renewal
because
there's
a
report
that
you
can
take
a
look
at
and
down
in
the
bottom
you'll
see
some
yellow
markings.
You
have
copies.
H
Okay,
you'll
see
that
on
the
right
side
of
the
page,
it
says
current
period
in
prior
period
and
the
prior
period,
the
experience
was
100.3,
meaning
that
you
know
three-tenths
of
a
percent
greater
than
the
premiums
that
were
taken
in
you
know
we're
paid
out
in
claims.
This
year,
you'll
see
that
it
running
right
now
at
about
78%
and
I.
Think
there's
a
couple
of
reasons
for
it
number
one.
H
So
I
would
say
that
the
addition
of
some
of
these
heavier
forms
of
managed
care,
HMO,
the
PPO,
some
of
the
restrictions
that
are
on
drug
expenses,
things
of
that
nature
have
contributed
to
controlling
some
of
these
expenses
and
right
now
we're
waiting
on
quotes
to
come
in
from
the
marketplace.
So
we
can
see
what
we
can
do
with
that
4.9%.
Can
we
get
it
down
to
zero
or
you
know?
H
What
can
we
do
with
it,
but
we're
waiting
to
see
what
those
quotes
are,
so
we
can
go
back
and
forth
with
the
UnitedHealthcare
and
we'll
be
reporting
on
that
in
in
the
future,
with
the
Finance
Committee,
but
I
think
in
short,
you
know
this
is
a
really
good
positive
message.
I,
don't
know
Dave,
you
want
to
say
anything
about
the
experience
report.
I
Not
necessarily
the
report,
but
I
will
say
this
that
last
year,
when
we
introduced
the
HMO
became
the
most
popular
belief
plan
that
was
offered.
Sometimes
when
you
have
an
HMO,
that's
new
to
the
to
the
population,
we
can
get
some
claims
issues
or
some
understanding
issues,
but
we
haven't
had
that.
We
were
expecting
an
uptick
and
maybe
some
concerns
and
claims
problems.
We
have
not
seen
that
at
all,
so
our
appears
that
not
only
is
that
the
most
popular
plan,
but
people
are
satisfied
with
that
with
their
health
plan
there.
H
Grainy
employer
coming
employee
meetings,
we're
going
to
have
to
to
a
greater
degree,
explain
to
some
of
the
folks
that
leave
the
state
that
certain
plans
work
for
people
here
in
Illinois
that
don't
work
for
out
of
Staters,
but
that
that
that's
a
comment
for
another
day
but
I
think
in
general.
I
just
saw
something
on
this
report
that
says
current
period
versus
five
or
prior
period
down
below
there
you'll
see
on
the
right
the
right
side
of
the
page.
H
You
know
a
reduction
in
medical
expenses
and
pharmacy
expenses
of
almost
sixteen
percent,
so
that
goes
to
the
core.
You
know
why
this
renewal
is
so
much
better
than
and-
and
there
is
some
intent
on
united
healthcare
as
part
all
carriers,
parts
to
control
cost,
and
this
year
you
know
with
better
health
its
work.
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Miss
chairman,
the
Wonderware
trend
is
and
for
the
other
board
members
here
who
don't
know
what
trend
is,
if
you
could
explain
that,
because
I'm
this
has
got
to
be
below
trend
on
this
increase.
I
I
You
would
see
trends,
probably
mixing
between
medical
and
pharmacy.
Probably
seven
eight
percent
managed
care
would
keep
those
trends
down.
Hmo
would
have
a
lower
trend.
You
can
see
one
of
the
things
there
is
capitation.
That's
up
three
and
half
percent
capitation
means
that
in
an
HMO
setting,
we
have
physicians,
for
example,
that
get
a
flat
dollar
amount,
and
then
they
see
their
patients
and
they're
getting
paid,
whether
their
patients
basically
go
there
or
not
so
they're.
Taking
the
risk
on
how
many
so
capitation
is
going
up
a
little
bit.
I
J
H
Yeah
without
question,
and
one
of
the
comments
I'd
make
there
is
that
the
likelihood
with
this
kind
of
a
renewal
of
making
more
benefit
changes
or
structural
changes,
design
changes
is
probably
not
necessary
right
now,
which
has
been
necessary
in
the
previous
two
years
to
contain
costs.
So
to
your
point,
you
know,
I
would
say
that
you
know
for
the
employees
and
the
use
of
the
plan
that
likely
won't
have
to
change,
which
is
you
know.
You
know
it's.
It's
not
fun
to
pass
on
messages
that
your
benefit
plan
has
changed.
H
You
know
because
it
means
more
costing
in
your
out
of
pocket.
So
you
know
right
now
what
we're
looking
at
is.
You
know,
you
know
something
that
you
know
is
manageable
and
probably
you
know
will
come
down
a
little
bit
this.
This
four-point-nine
likely
could
be
massaged
down
to
what
degree
I
don't
know,
but
it
would
appear
to
me
that
we're
not
going
to
have
to
make
those
benefit
changes
that
hurt
the
most.
So
any.
G
A
K
K
K
Just
stopped
me
there's
any
questions
or
comments
besides
they
and
make
the
sales
tax
overall
was
a
very
good
month
that
just
showed
up
for
the
month
of
for
the
retailer
month
of
May,
we
that
we
received
in
August
came
in
larger
than
the
December
retail
month.
That's
interesting
that
we
received
in
March.
So
let.
A
G
K
It's
a
very
positive
trend
that
were
that
we're
seeing
we
did
receive
communication
will
be
interested
to
see
the
use
tax
trend,
the
Department
of
Revenue
without
communication
as
far
as
online
sales
tax,
and
that
will
that
will
show
up
as
that
process
begins
in
the
use,
tax
area
and
so
it'll
be
distributed
by
population,
as
the
use
tax
does
now
so
it'll
go
into
that
pool.
So
we
will
see
that
will
that
will
definitely
change,
but
we'll
have
to
wait
and
see.
K
You
know
the
impact
of
that
at
this
point
so
and
the
other
positive
that
what
I've
read
and
change
in
the
in
the
state
budget
that
they've
changed
a
percentage
of
income
tax
and
we
saw
a
positive
change.
You
know
in
this
particular
month,
so
it
was
a
10%
decrease
now
I
believe
it's
to
a
5%
increase
and
then
but
there
was
a
negative
change
to
the
PPR
tee,
the
personal
property
replacement
tax.
So
we're
working
on
that
adjusting
that
down
a
little
bit
more
from
where
it
was.
K
F
You
and
apologizes-
you
know
we
haven't
talked
about
this
yet
in
depth,
but
it's
my
understanding.
It's
internet
retailers
that
don't
have
brick
and
mortar
in
the
state
of
Illinois
have
to
pay
use
tax
instead
of
a
sales
tax
right.
That's
great
and
I
believe
use
taxes
divided
up
differently
than
sales
tax
that
were
people
like
the
RTA
have
a
bigger
stake
in
that
tax
kitty.
If
you
will
then
local
governments,
so
we
shouldn't
see
what
I'm
getting
at
is.
F
J
K
I
think
it
speaks
for
itself.
If
you
look
at
the
end
of
July
18
versus
July
of
17
on
the
as
a
comparison
page,
you
can
see
how
cash
is
trended
in
these
major
funds
that
we
watch
very
closely
with
the
interfund
borrowing
and
the
TW
activities.
So
it's
a
very
positive
trend
right
now,
where
we're
working
on
extending
it
out
we're
working
on.
You
know
the
next
tax
levy
request
and
you
know
how
it
fits
into
all
the
funds
with
the
budget
activity.
K
You
know
for
future
ta,
WS
and
interfund
borrowing.
So
it's
a
very
positive
trend
and-
and
as
you
can
see,
you
know
and
you'll
see
when
we
update
August
I
ran
in
some
numbers
to
see
where
we're
at
and
the
accounts
payable
number
is
going
to
be
drastically
different
than
you
know,
even
where
it
ended
it
July.
Because
of
what
we've
been
able
to
pay.
C
K
Catch
up
you
know
in
the
outstanding
ap,
so
it's
not
a
stretch
to
say
it's
been
six
or
seven
years
since
we've
been
this
caught
up
in
AP,
and
so
that's
a
very
positive
thing
to
say
and
I
think
the
number
you
know
that
six
point
three
number
or
sitting
at
this
you
know
time
frame.
We've
got
an
additional
distribution.
We
have
so
they
have
the
final
TT,
aw
payback
and
you
know
bond
payments
and
etc.
K
K
I've
expected
a
call
or
an
email,
I'm
anticipating
you
know,
at
the
work
I'm
doing
and
up
to
end
the
all
the
updates
I
believe
we
can.
You
know
if
we
want
to
but
I
believe
that
there
will
be
a
follow
up
from
Moody's
here
soon,
as
they've
been
doing
it
approximately
every
August
or
September
every
year,
so
I'm,
anticipating
that
will
happen
soon.
We've.
D
G
K
With
you
know
the
with
the
TW
sandy
n,
if
I'm
borrowing
just
you
know,
we
call
like
highway,
they
have
projects,
you
know,
I
mean
and
so
the
balances
and
in
between
December
and
May
to
June.
You
know
that
that
that's
always
a
cash
flow
shortage
for
us,
so
that
timeframe
will
still
need
help
for
a
couple.
More
years
before
we
get
back.
K
K
G
K
The
only
item
for
your
consideration
for
boat
here
last
month,
we
did
the
general
fund
budget
amendments.
This
month
we
have
various
special
funds
and
budget
amendments
needed
to
continue.
You
know
the
functions
of
these
various
I
believe
there's
ten
or
eleven
different
special
funds
on
two
pages
to
adjust
the
original
budget
for
the
amounts
here.
K
So
I
don't
know
if
I'll
go
over
each
and
every
one
of
them,
but
if
there's
any
questions,
I
can
answer
them,
but
it's
pretty
much
to
allow
there's
some
new
funds
and
new
activity
so
we're
we're
just
making
sure
that
budget
and
appropriations
can
continue.
You
know
from
what
was
known
at
the
time
that
these
were
budgeted
after.
A
F
To
do
with
infrastructure,
this
is
restricted
towards
infrastructure
and
said
so
we
are
paying
it
out
of
this
fund
in
order
for
us
to
do
it,
we
have
to
amend
so
there's
an
appropriation
there,
so
we're
trying
to
estimate
throughout
the
rest
of
the
year.
It
looks
like
these
emergencies
will
be
paying
for
those
to
the
ending
I.
Think
we'll
have
another
150
on
the
elevator
coming
up.
Yeah
fire
50,000.
C
A
L
A
L
K
L
L
F
The
letter
yeah
yeah
I'd
be
happy
to
okay.
I
could
I'll
give
you
the
background
on
this,
since
roughly
I
think
was
twelve
twenty
or
twelve
twenty.
Three
of
sixteen
there's
been
an
ongoing
discussion
over
what
the
term
keeps
the
accounts
and,
as
the
general
accountant
of
the
county
is,
and
there
was
an
agreement
that
there
was
accounting
duties
that
needed
to
go
into
the
auditor's
office.
Yeah.
F
F
It
was
asked
of
me
by
the
state's
attorney
to
go
to
other
accountants
outside
of
the
county,
whether
they
work
for
us
or
not
and
asked
for
that
opinion,
because
they
are
experts
within
that
situation.
So
this
little
note
here
is
meaningless
in
the
terms
of
an
outside
of
an
opinion
from
an
actual
accountant.
So
these
these
opinions
that
came
in
I
believe
I
had
one
or
two
that
were
unpaid
and
one
that
was
they
charged
us
for,
because
everybody
who
provides
a
perpetual
service
and
that's
what
this
is
a
professional
service.
F
It's
a
professional
opinion,
not
a
legal
opinion,
and
it
was
performed
at
the
request
of
the
state's
attorney's
office
to
go,
find
other
people
who
could
comment
on
the
situation
and
so
I
will
not
be
reimbursing
anything,
because
that
is
exactly
what
we
were
instructed
to
do
by
the
state's
attorney's
office.
Any.
F
They
said
they
are
at
this
time,
not
going
to
offer
any
opinion
so
we're
back
to
where
we
started
almost
a
year
and
a
half
ago
of
us
trying
to
work
this
out
internally
on
the
definition
of
what
accounting
is
in
the
terms
of
what
we
have
going
on
here
and
I'm.
Very
hopeful
that
now
we
might
be
able
to
sin,
we're
trying
to
sit
down
at
the
table
and
work
this
going
forward.
So
we
can
define
what
accounting
is,
but
I.
F
Rest
assured
that
under
no
circumstances
will
accounting
ever
take
away
the
duties
and
responsibilities
of
us
to
run
the
finance
of
this
County.
That
is
a
clear
line
that
will
not
be
crossed,
but
we
are
working
towards
giving
accounting
to
the
auditor
there's
a
broad
definition:
the
auditors,
using
for
accounting,
which
is
everything
including
finance
within
our
County,
and
we're
going
to
work
towards
resolving
that.
L
D
F
A
A
C
B
N
B
N
N
I
think
you
know
it
doesn't
hurt
people
to
be
informed,
especially
those
that
are
making
the
decisions
so
what's
out,
there
is
sometimes
not
accurate,
so
I
think
it's
important
that
you
hear
both
sides
of
it.
So
the
second
thing-
the
elevator
I,
know
that
guy
brought
up
a
little
bit
earlier,
apparently
is
about
99.9
percent
finished.
N
They
started
it
yesterday
and
every
time
they
powered
it
up
a
fuse
blew.
So
the
elevator
company
is
back
today
to
get
that
fixed,
so
hopefully
we'll
be
back
and
running
as
normal,
hopefully
later
today
so
and
that's
all
I
got
on
the
update.
The
other
issue
is
the
other
agenda.
Item
is
the
surplus
items.
A
N
I
think
the
only
thing
I
would
say
is
that,
like
a
lot
of
things
there,
there
are
things
that
people
think
they
know,
but
they
don't.
As
far
as
the
type
of
detainee
that
we're
housing-
and
you
know
we
have
reached
out
to
I,
think
I
believe
the
people
that
have
sent
those
letters
I
met
with
them
back
a
while
ago.
They
have
actually
called
it
was
prior
to
when
I
went
to
the
Ozarks,
because
they
wanted
a
tour
and
I
said.
N
N
Which
I
will
well
I?
You
know
what
I
I
don't
have
a
problem,
communicating
and
and
discussing
this,
but
it
is
you
know
it's.
The
issue
is
so
emotional
for
some
people
that,
regardless
of
what's
out
there
in
front
of
people,
it's
not
there's
nothing,
I
can
say,
or
anybody
else
can
say,
that's
going
to
change
anybody's
mind
about
this
issue.
That's
just
that's
just
the
issue
itself
and
I
think
mr.
Kinzinger
probably
said
it
best
until
they
change
legislation
on
a
federal
level.
N
We
have
what
we
have
and
if
we
want
things
changed,
it's
got
to
be
changed
at
the
federal
level.
So
you
know
we
want
to
work
with.
We
want
to
work
with
the
people
who
have
questions
we'll
answer
anything
we
can,
but
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
information
out
there
that
they
think
they
know,
but
they
don't
know
and-
and
that's
not
a
criticism
by
any
stretch.
It's
just
that
they're
not
involved
in
the
day-to-day
and
the
opportunities
that
these
individuals
do
have
to
literally
stay
in
our
country.
N
N
You
know
we
we
invited.
Actually
we
didn't
invite.
He
showed
up
on
his
own.
The
bishop
of
Joliet
came
down
one
day.
He
didn't
want
to
be
announced.
He
didn't
want
to
be.
He
came
down
as
a
priest.
He
did
not
come
down
as
a
bishop
for
those
non
Catholics.
You
can
ask
a
Catholic
about
it,
but
he
came
down
as
a
priest
and
sent
me
a
very
nice
letter
about
how
we
treated
these
guys
and
it's
something
that
I
was
very
proud
of,
that
he
would
take
the
time
to
do
that.
N
A
M
Thank
You
mr.
Jim
I
recognize
that
the
auditor
is
not
here
but
I
wondered
perhaps
not
to
put
you
on
the
spot.
Chairman
wheeler,
but
I
just
had
questions
about
two
of
the
claims.
One
is
for
website
design
for
red
earth
web.
It's
only
102
dollars,
but
I
just
wondered
why
there's
an
Oklahoma
company
I
thought
web
foot
did
our
website?
Is
that
for
somebody
else,
like
a
department
website,
do
you
know
it
was
out
of
the
general
fund.
F
F
I
think
it
was
an
update
to
a
page
or
some
type
of
infrastructure
within
the
current
site
that
they
had
program.
Okay,
yeah,
it's
not
a
local
company,
no.