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Finance Committee Meeting 12/20/2018 10:00 AM
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A
B
C
D
Good
morning,
hi
mr.
chairman,
members
of
the
committee
and
guests
just
want
to
rise
on
behalf
of
those
who
elected
me
to
represent
them,
as
their
County
Auditor
and
I'd
like
to
call
your
attention
to
the
line
in
the
agenda
that
it
says
that
the
cash
bonus
mandated
by
the
auditor
to
be
paid
out
to
the
auditor's
office
employee.
D
Now,
while
this
line
is
a
marketing
genius,
I
will
say
it's
alarmist
and
it's
misleading.
My
email
actually
stated
in
the
subject
line:
FY
18
payroll
expenditure
request,
that's
the
key
word
and
I
say
Jo
Ann
good
morning.
This
email
is
to
serve
as
documentation
that
I
intend
keyword
to
pay
out.
What
is
remaining
in
my
budget
key
phrase
to
my
chief
deputy
and
then
I
go
on
to
explain
why
I'm
sending
the
email
from
an
accounting
standpoint
and
that
type
of
thing
so
I
would
like
to
point
out
the
number
1.
D
This
is
my
budget.
Okay
and
as
an
elected
official
I
can
spend
my
budget
as
I
deem
appropriate
if
it
is
ethical
and
if
it
is
legal,
no
other
elected
official
has
been
put
on
blast,
I'll,
say
or
micromanaged
in
this
regard,
like
our
County
Board
Chairman
has
micromanaged
me.
There
very
well
may
not
be
anything
left
in
my
budget,
so
there
won't
even
be
an
issue
because,
more
than
likely,
it's
all
going
to
be
gone
anyway.
D
D
However,
I'm
not
going
to
leave
things
unnoted,
the
chairman
rightfully
stated
that
my
predecessor
actually
violated
a
union
contract
and
doled
out
thousands
of
dollars
in
doing
so
to
an
employee
that
was
neither
credentialed
nor
degreed.
To
the
extent
that
my
employee
is
but
I
have
to
ask.
What
is
the
difference
between
my
predecessor,
who
did
it
and
me?
D
Why
is
it
that
I
was
forced
to
move
my
office
to
another
floor?
Why
is
it
that
there
was
an
illegal
meeting
held
plotting
against
me
for
hours
last
year?
Why
is
it
that
my
desire
to
close
the
income
gap
disparity
was
met
with
such
resistance?
Why
is
it
that
it
appears
our
current
County
or
chairman
is
hell-bent
on
trying
to
embarrass
me
and
thereby
discrediting
the
important
work
that
we
do
for
the
citizens
of
Kankakee
County?
D
To
that
end,
I
have
already
contacted
many
forensic
accounting
firms
asking
for
RFQ
to
demonstrate
their
level
of
interest
and
their
capabilities.
The
outside
auditors,
I
believe,
should
be
completely
independent,
free
from
conducting
business
with
the
county
in
the
past
five
years,
and
I
would
like
to
invite
the
chairman,
and
hopefully
even
the
state's
attorney,
to
join
me
in
coordinating
and
promoting
this
forensic
audit
of
the
entire
county.
D
We'll
start
with
my
office,
we'll
learn
best
practices
and
we'll
learn
all
it
is
that
they
have
to
contribute
to
our
office,
we'll
go
to
human
resources,
to
finance
accounting,
payroll
decentralized
accounts
and
all
other
areas
of
County
finance
and
County
operations,
because,
ultimately,
that
is
the
highest
form
of
accountability
and
transparency.
We
can
provide
to
the
voters
so
I
embrace.
The
idea
of
an
audit
I
really
hope
that
the
Chairman
will
join
me
and
that
we
will
do
a
forensic
audit
of
the
entire
county.
D
I
stand
by
the
good
work
that
we
have
done
in
the
auditor's
office.
I
really
appreciate
Marsha
Easter,
who
serves
as
our
chief
deputy,
who
has
compensated
well
below
her
qualifications,
actually
to
the
extent
much
less
than
my
predecessor
compensated,
a
non
credentialed,
non-degree
employee.
So,
on
behalf
of
the
the
chairman
and
frankly,
the
administration
I'd
like
to
publicly
apologize
to
Marsha
for
not
being
able
to
compensate
her
to
the
degree
in
which
she
is
worth
with
that
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time,
with
malice
toward
none
and
charity
for
all.
D
A
Are
there
any
other
public
comments
if
there
are
no
other
public
comments?
I'd
like
to
move
to
a
presentation,
we
have
an
item
on
the
agenda
for
the
route
50
corridor
proposal,
mr.
Richard
Hancock
available
to
make
a
short
presentation
on
that.
Mr.
Hancock.
If
you
want
to
use
that
or
if
you
want
to
come
up
front
whatever
you're
more
comfortable.
E
E
You
may
recognize
the
name
we
have
been
working
over
the
last
couple
of
years
on
the
Kankakee
River
front.
Although
that's
not
the
subject
of
the
discussion.
This
morning
we
have
submitted
a
proposal
at
the
Chairman's
request,
really
at
the
request
of
CSL,
barring
and
through
the
assistance
of
Mike
Gingrich
I
was
approached
I,
don't
know,
I
want
to
say
back
in
the
summer.
E
Url
of
course
very
aware
that
CSL,
bearing
is
making
an
enormous
investment
along
the
route
50
corridor,
which
is
going
to
be
hugely
beneficial
for
the
county
and
municipalities
that
are
adjacent
to
it.
Our
firm
was
approached
to
explore
the
potential
of
the
corridor,
it's
a
very
short
stretch
from
North
up
and
to
the
interchange,
but
the
idea
is
that
the
CSL
executives
are
keenly
interested
in
trying
to
create
a
better
gateway
to
this
entire
community,
and
they
see
this
as
an
opportunity
to
frankly
to
help
them
attract
and
retain
very
skillful
employees.
E
In
order
to
kind
of
get
the
ball
rolling,
they
asked
us
to
predict
again
through
the
Chairman,
Mike
and
CSL
kind
of
a
group
effort.
They
asked
us
to
put
together
a
proposal
to
do
a
study
of
that
corridor,
which
might
ordinarily
be
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars.
We
put
something
together
for
$25,000
that
we
call
an
opportunity,
analysis,
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
that
packet
of
information
in
front
of
you,
but
we
have
a
three-part
proposal.
The
first
part
is
called
the
opportunity
analysis.
The
second
part
is
a
preferred
strategy.
E
In
the
last
part,
as
a
final
master
plan,
the
$25,000
is
to
do
the
opportunity
analysis,
which
is
really
about
getting
our
arms
around
all
of
the
physical
resources
which
include
the
road
network.
The
land
uses.
All
of
the
infrastructure
in
the
area.
The
second
piece
is
to
get
our
arms
around
the
stakeholder
interest
and,
of
course,
in
this
case
it
includes
elected
officials
like
the
chairman
in
like
yourselves,
it
includes
property
owners,
it
includes
tenants
and
certainly
to
some
extent
a
lesser
extent.
E
In
this
case
it
can
include
citizen
interests
and
to
be
sure
that
the
elephant
in
the
room
here
is
the
the
property
owner
CSL
bearing
what
their
interests
are
in
the
area.
So
it's
to
talk
in
great
detail
with
those
folks
talk
with
bankers.
Lenders
brokers
will
be
very
important
developers
to
get
our
arms
around
what
are
the
universe
of
possibilities
in
this
area
and
then,
lastly,
there's
these
three
dimensions
that
we're
trying
to
find
the
intersection
of
which
is
resources,
stakeholder
interests.
And,
lastly,
what's
the
marketplace
going
to
support
in
this
area?
E
We
all
know
we
read
this
every
day
we
hear
this
on
the
radio
retail
is
changing
really
forever,
and
so
what
kinds
of
retail
uses
along
that
corridor
might
be
legitimate
in
the
future?
What
other
kinds
of
business
or
commercial
uses
might
be
useful
in
the
future?
Are
there
residential
opportunities
in
the
future?
All
of
those
kinds
of
things
will
be
explored.
We
have
a
market
expert
on
our
team
and
a
branding
expert
on
our
team.
E
Certainly
the
chairman
of
this
board,
and
maybe
some
elected
officials
will
run
it
past
them
and
see
if
we're
on
the
right
track
and
if
it
looks
like
we're
on
the
right
track,
we'll
package
that
in
a
small
report
and
we'll
be
done
with
that
for
his
face,
sorry
that
was
kind
of
a
windy
explanation.
But
you
asked
a
consultant
what
time
it
is
like
your
last
consultant
they'll
tell
you
how
to
build
a
watch
so
anyway.
In
a
nutshell,
that's
what
we're
doing.
We
really
appreciate
the
opportunity.
E
A
F
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
the
25,000
is
not
something
we
have
to
vote
on,
because
this
is
enterprise
zone
money.
That's
already
been
voted
on
by
that
board,
so
that
is
an
online
account
with
the
county
that
goes
through
planning.
We
put
it
online
because
that's
where
it
needs
to
be,
and
so
that
check
would
come
from
there
and
it's
not
general
fund
money.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
gonna
vote
on
this
here
per
se.
F
G
A
A
F
We
would
be
in
hot,
be
the
hiring
entity,
but
the
funding
is
coming
from
the
Enterprise
Zone.
We
just
hold
the
money
for
the
Enterprise
Zone
and
manage
it,
because
our
staff
are
the
ones
who
actually
run
the
meetings
staff,
the
enterprise
zone
meetings,
so
that
started
under
mr.
van
mil
years
and
years
ago.
So
my.
G
F
Was
the
Enterprise
Zone
who
chose
this
thing
can
consult
with
CSL
and
because
you
work
with
CSL
and
have
been
talking
about
this?
This
was
the
correct
entity.
That's
what's
driving
it.
Those
were
the
stakeholders
at
the
table
with
CSL
and
the
mayors
that
surround
that
are
all
part
of
the
Enterprise
Zone,
and
actually
all
the
mayors
in
the
in
the
area
or
their
representatives
are
part
of
the
Enterprise
Zone
as
well.
So
we
did
not
select
them.
Yes,.
G
E
A
A
A
H
I
I
thought
this
year,
looking
back
was
fairly
successful
in
terms
of
the
way
we
collected
and
distributed
taxes.
We
were
a
little
bit
late
on
this
distribution
later
than
I
would
have
liked
to
have
been,
but
we
had
some
software
issues
that
we
worked
through
and
we're
gonna
get
the
money
out
like
I
said
today,
it
should
be
in
people's
accounts.
I
I'm
really
really
excited
to
announce
officially
that
we
are
going
to
start
a
program
which
will
probably
start
and
the
dates
moving
right
now,
but
maybe
the
8th
of
January,
whatever
that
Monday
is
called
choices
TPP
and
what
that
stands.
First,
choice
is
tax
payment
program
and
that's
what
I
alluded
to
last
time.
I
was
here.
You
will
be
able
to
set
up
weekly
monthly
daily
by
monthly
bi-weekly.
However,
you
want
to
pay
your
taxes.
I
I
If
you
say
no,
it
won't
the
next
payment
that
comes
around
it
will
recalculate
what
you
now
need
to
pay
to
meet
that
schedule,
you've
laid
out
and
we'll
ask
you
again:
do
you
want
to
pay
when
tax
bills
get
rolled
into
the
system
in
the
beginning?
You
will
be.
It
will
be
predicated
upon
last
year's
bill
right.
We
know
there's
probably
a
slight
increase:
some
people's
may
go
down
a
hair,
so
the
system
as
soon
as
that
rolls
into
the
system.
I
It
will
recalculate
so
and
say:
hey,
listen,
we've
been
predicating
your
payments
for
these
eight
times
on
this
amount,
but
your
new
tax
bill
is
actually
30
dollars
higher.
So
it's
going
to
be
12
dollars
more
each
payment
and
let
you
know
that
and
again
you
have
the
chance
to
do
it
so
for
those
that
are
savvy
electronically
and
want
to
chunk
their
payments
out.
This
will
be
phenomenal.
I
It'll
also
put
money
into
the
county
scoffers
earlier
tax
rates,
as
you
know,
there's
a
dual
side
of
tax
rates
or
interest
rates
and
I
think
there
was
another
quarter,
point
hike,
but
for
my
side
of
the
fence
in
terms
of
investing
it's
a
good
thing,
I'm
just
good
thing
for
the
taxing
bodies.
Now,
what
do
you
do
with
those
people
that
aren't
internet
savvy?
Well,
they
will
be
able
to
come
into
our
office
and
do
the
same
thing
that
anybody
can
do
online.
So
if
mrs.
I
Jones
wants
to
come
in
once
a
week,
she's
welcome
to
once
a
month
twice
a
month
every
day.
However,
she
wants
to
pay
or
he
wants
to
pay
it'll
be
available
to
them
the
caveat
to
the
whole
program.
The
most
important
thing
is
that
by
first
installment
you
will
have
to
have
paid
equal
to
your
first
installment
do
by
second
installment.
You
will
have
to
have
paid
your
second
installment,
but
I
think
what
it
what
it
does
is.
It
helps
everybody
across
the
board.
I
I
If
you
pay
credit
card
I'm
happy
to
report
that
the
fee
went
down
from
two
point:
three,
five
to
two
point:
two:
five:
we
negotiated
that,
and
that
was
the
key
to
the
deal.
It's
not
a
huge
savings,
but
it
went
down.
I
like
that,
you'll
be
able
to
pay
that
way.
If
you
choose
for
economically
disadvantaged
people,
I
believe
this
is
incredible.
I
I
So
it's
you
know
it's
a
Christmas
Club
for
taxes,
I
suppose
in
some
ways,
but
but
I
want
to
relate
a
real-life
example.
I
had
a
woman,
elderly
woman
come
last
year
and
I
apologize.
If
I've
already
told
this
story
and
they
owed
1602,
she
owed
$1,600
and
she
said:
I
can't
pay
my
taxes,
but
I
can
pay
1200
and,
of
course,
based
on
what
our
deal
was.
I
said:
I'm.
I
Sorry,
we
can't
accept
that,
so
her
taxes
didn't
get
paid
and
they
got
sold,
and
now
she
was
paying
eighteen
and
a
half
percent
or
18
percent
interest
every
six
months
on
$1,600.
In
the
same
scenario,
she
would
have
come
in
and
said:
listen,
this
is
all
I
can
pay
twelve
hundred,
we
would
have
taken
the
money
and
she
would
pay
18
percent
on
400.
I
It's
a
huge
deal
because
what
happens
is
in
a
situation
like
that
the
people
get
buried
and
they
never
get
an
opportunity
to
get
back
to
to
square
one
right
and
we
we
don't
want
them
out
of
their
houses.
We
don't
want
people
out
of
their
houses,
it
does
the
county
no
good.
We
want
to
work
within
the
legal
framework
that
we're
bound
by
but
keep
people
in
their
homes
and
makes
sense
to
the
community.
I
You
know
and
these
houses
that
were
that
are
going
to
tax
sale
and
then
that
Joseph
Meyer
our
trustee,
gets
on
our
behalf.
You
know,
then
we
sell
at
a
trustee
auction
for
$650
it's.
It
makes
all
the
sense
in
the
world
to
try
to
create
a
situation
whereby
people
can
pay
these
taxes
and
I
know
we
all
probably
feel
the
same
way.
I
The
taxes
for
most
people
or
a
fairly
large
burden,
but
I
think
the
whole
idea
from
the
day
I
got
here
is
what
are
the
best
options
for
the
taxpayer,
and
you
know
I've
said
a
million
times.
My
father
would
say
you
save
your
money
and
you
pay
your
first
payment
and
you
save
your
money
and
you
pay
your
second
baby.
I
Well,
that's
great
in
a
perfect
world,
but
we
don't
live
in
that
perfect
world
and
people
have
lots
of
things
that
come
and
go,
and
you
know
maybe
you'll
hit
a
lottery
ticket
for
$300,
and
you
want
to
walk
in
and
put
that
on
your
taxes
and
we
we
we
shouldn't
be
in
the
business
of
not
accepting
people's
money
and
so
I'm
excited
it
is,
but
there's
gonna
be
some
challenges.
I'm
sure
with
anything
new
education
will
be
the
key
I'm,
certainly
willing
to
come
to
anybody.
I
If
you
have
community
organization
meetings,
I've
already
contacted
the
mayor
of
Kankakee
asked
to
speak
at
the
meeting
in
early
January.
I
have
been
to
some
community
meetings
in
the
second
Ward
and
Mary
crest.
I
think
is
seventh
Ward
I've
been
there
and
I
will
and
I
will
go
back
there
and
I
will
meet
with
anybody
in
the
county.
Who
wants
to
meet
to
talk
about
it,
and
I
will
of
course,
prevail
upon
the
journal.
I
The
Herald
the
radio
stations
to
get
the
word
out
because
it
will
take
some
time
and
we're
trying
hard
to
get
this
done
right
at
January,
so
give
people
the
most
time,
but
I
assume
we'll
work
out
the
bugs
this
year
and
next
year
next
year,
it'll
be
it'll,
be
you
know,
running
perfectly
smooth,
we've
had
a
four
payment
plan.
This
will
essentially
get
rid
of
that
it'll,
pull
it
all
together
and
there
won't
you.
We
don't
have
to
mail
anything
we'll
own,
an
email
list
that
we
can
talk
to
people
about
each
eye.
I
I
couldn't
be
more
excited
so
and-
and
this
is
probably
what
y'all
liked
here-
the
most
zero
cost
to
the
county-
zero
cost
and
it
will
be
more
work
for
my
staff
at
times,
but
that
work
I
believe
will
will
be
offset
by
less
work
at
other
times.
So,
if
someone's
paying
online
they're
not
coming
in
right,
so
banks
will
still
collect
on
the
first
payment
and
second
payment.
They
will
have
nothing
to
do
with
this
multiple
payment
program
right.
So
if
you
go
to
the
back,
you're
still
gonna
have
to
pay.
What's
on
your?
I
What's
on
your
bill,
you
will
be
able
to
print
your
bill
off
this
year
for
the
first
time
ever
online.
So
if
you
lose
your
bill,
you
don't
want
to
pay
a
duplicate,
bail
fee.
You
can
go
on
the
internet
print.
Your
bail
has
a
barcode,
bring
it
in
will
scan
it,
you'll
be
able
to
do
that.
The
banks
as
well,
but
there
are
some
there-
are
some
nuances,
so
we're
gonna
have
to
talk
to
people
about
it.
The
banks
will
be
here
and
I.
I
You
want
to
pay
that
one
or
you
want
to
pay
them
all.
However,
you
want
to
do
it
and
I
think
the
charge
is
75
cents
per
payment
right.
So
if
you
got
30
and
you
pay
all
at
once-
discuss
75
cents
for
that
opportunity.
So
there's
some
some
great
tools
for
for
people
in
the
area,
so
we're
gonna
reach
out
to
those
multiple
parcel
holders
and
get
them
involved.
C
Eyrie
Thank
You,
mr.
chairman
Nick.
This
is
a
fabulous
program
and
I
commend
you
and
your
office
staff
for
taking
this
on
it.
Not
only
is
it
going
to
help
the
the
tax,
the
the
taxi,
it's
gonna
help
the
county
receive
more
money
and
get
money
more
in
money
into
our
coffer
quicker
than
to
refuse
it,
and
and
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
reach
out
to
Ken
and
Dave
over
here
and
aside.
C
You
guys
got
to
help
us
get
this
word
out
to
the
public,
as
this
is
great
news
from
the
treasurer
standpoint
that
he's
gonna
help
people
pay
their
taxes
when
they
can
afford
to
pay
their
taxes,
not
always
when
it's
time
to
pay
your
taxes.
So
I
appreciate
that,
and-
and
hopefully
these
men
on
the
side
will
help
you
get
that
word
out.
It's
not.
Everybody
always
watches
this.
This
presentation
so
Nick
kudos
to
you
in
your
office.
Thank
you
for
for
looking
out
for
the
for
the
people
in
the
Kankakee
County
I
appreciate.
I
J
I
Thank
you,
George
I,
appreciate
that
I
know
it's
corny
Andy
and
you
know
I
say
this
I'm
I'm
sure
this
goes
for
all
of
us.
In
this
room.
I'm
from
here
I
grew
up
six
blocks
from
here.
I
love,
my
community.
We
had
some
people
in
here
yesterday.
It
really
is
a
privilege
to
serve
people.
I,
guess:
I,
don't
have
ambition
which
makes
it
a
little
bit
more
comfortable.
I,
don't
want
to
be
anything
other
than
a
treasure,
but
we
should
work
with
people
and
yeah.
I
A
I
G
I
Know,
here's
the
rears.
The
reason
why
you
can
and
as
a
private
person
has
someone
in
private
business
I
agree
with
you
more
an
edge,
very
frustrating.
It's
the
law
is
very
simple
right.
It
says
you
owe
$10
and
you
have
to
pay
it
and
there's
a
fee
attached
to
pay
it
by
credit
card,
and
this
county
is
not
absorbing
that
feat.
The
state
says:
that's
against
the
law.
You
pay
us
the
ten
dollars.
I
You
owe
us,
you
pay,
it
early
stand
up
a
late,
it's
ten
plus
and
if
there's
a
fee
associated,
that's
the
number
one
issue
in
my
office.
Ron
is
resetting.
The
fee
does
not
come
to
the
county,
we
don't
get
the
fee.
The
fee
is
so
listen,
I
run
an
online
business
as
well.
The
credit
card
companies
are
doing
wonderfully
wonderfully
they're.
The
only
ones
I
think
that
make
money,
but
you.
A
Have
the
county
treasurer's
report,
the
kind
of
collectors
report
in
the
monthly
resolutions
for
January
2019
in
front
of
you,
do
I,
have
a
motion
to
combine
and
approve
those.
Mr.
Washington
moves
mr.
altough
seconds
any
discussion
on
the
reports.
We
want
to
go
there.
Hearing
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye
opposed,
nay
motion
carries
you.
I
Know
I
just
went
like
to
close
with
this
to
clarify
what
was
done
in
the
past
I
believe
before
I
started
my
office,
an
office
on
the
second
floor
and
Jake's
office
previously,
which
are
all
collectively
bargained
to
agreements
all
paid
bonuses,
I'm
against
that
and
I
made
that
known,
I
provide
Christmas
gifts
to
my
employees,
but
they
come
out
of
my
pocket.
I
wish
everybody
a
Merry
Christmas
a
happy,
healthy
and
prosperous
new
year,
and
thanks
everybody
in
this
room
for
your
support.
K
Would
he
bobbed
for
these
particular
reports
we
over
the
years
and
through
our
toughest
times
these
revenue
items
had
showed
some
of
the
most
volatility
through
those
times,
and
so
we
evolved
a
look
at
a
monthly
with
as
much
breakdown,
particularly
with
sales
tax,
that
we
could
to
watch
the
trend
and,
as
we
went
through
with
the
program
that
the
city
can
key
had
when
it
stopped
and
the
Supreme
Court
decision
all
of
those
and
then
watching
the
flow
to
come
to.
What
would
our
new.
L
K
Actually
be
this
information,
you
know,
is
what
we
relied
on
and
continue
to
look
at.
It
also
was
connected
to
our
cash
flow
situation,
with
items
with
the
income
tax
and
others
the
state
was
has
been
and,
and
fortunately
right
now
they
are
current
with
our
payments,
but
we
were
out
as
far
as
six
seven
months.
It's
sometimes
with
some
of
these
collection
mounts
as
well,
so
it
affected
our
cash
flow
dramatically
as
well.
So
that's
just
a
little
bit
of
overview.
We
feel
free
to
ask
any
questions.
K
Sometimes
it's
kind
of
like
watching
the
stock
stock
market
there's
times
where
it
goes
up,
and
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
love
to
be
able
to
explain
every
single
thing
when
you
break
down
our
sales
tax,
there's
a
lot
of
categories
that
go
into
the
split
between
you
know
the
incorporated
and
unincorporated
portions.
So
not
everything
is
explainable,
sometimes,
but
it
is
trending
higher
as
far
as
sales
tax
and
really
all
of
them
are
trending
higher.
K
K
F
Thank
You,
mr.
chairman,
you
know
we
started
this
process.
What
two
three
months
ago,
when
we
first
sat
down
with
the
bank's
started,
going
over
what
the
what
the
discussion
would
be
here.
They
just
told
those
for
a
minute
in
the
past.
I
think
this
board
remembers
when
we
got
4
million
than
it
was
supposed
to
go
to
3
into
2
into
1
and
then
done
because
of
the
state
of
the
finances
in
the
county
are
the
the
banks
that
would
work
with
us,
which
were
only
local
banks
all
outside
of
the
area.
F
Banks
would
even
return
our
letters
for
proposal
we
were
just
above.
We
were
in
speculative
on
our
bond
rating,
just
above
jump
bond,
and
so
we
were
not
even
though
the
tax
money
was
guaranteed
were
not
the
kind
of
customer
that
people
that
had
board
of
directors
would
want
to
do
business
with.
So,
thank
goodness,
our
local
bank
stepped
up
and
they
helped
us
through
that
time
period,
but
they
didn't
want
to
be
an
enabling
situation.
They
wanted
to
see
a
positive
change
within
the
county
because
obviously
those
folks
live
here
as
well.
F
You
know:
that's
not
their
core
business
is
to
prop
up
government,
it's
the
money
for
houses
and
businesses,
and
things
like
that.
So,
thank
goodness
they
stuck
with
us,
and
so
our
conversations
have
turned
from
you
know.
Can
we
extend
it
another
year?
You
know
because
a
million
dollars
really
at
that
time,
when
we
had
those
conversations,
it's
not
a
whole
lot.
That's
a
payroll!
You
know
that
didn't
get
us
through,
so
we
were
supposed
to
be
this
year,
I
believe
at
the
1
million
level.
F
F
We
will
shortly
be
out
of
that
situation,
so
they
decided
to
stick
with
us
for
with
the
two
and
a
half
million
dollar
T
aw,
that's
that's
money
for
when
taxes
aren't
coming
in
and
as
you
may,
people
have
been
on
Finance
over
the
past
few
years,
we've
gone
since.
Well,
since
16
we've
gone
from
borrowing,
it
I
want
to
say,
December
and
then
to
January
and
then
to
February.
You
know
and
said
this.
We
may
not
need
it
until
March
this
year
and
our
payables
I
have
gone
from
3
million
down
to
800,000.
F
Roughly,
you
know
to
300,000
our
vendors
are
getting
paid,
and
so
there's
been
a
dramatic
turn
in
the
bank's
notice.
That
and
the
terms
have
not
necessarily
changed.
We
still
pay
interest
on
that
money
we
still
have
to
inter
fund
borrow,
but
it's
not
to
the
extent
that
we
have
to
when
we
have
to
borrow
less
for
a
shorter
amount
of
time.
So
this
two
and
a
half
million
has
been
tentatively
agreed
on.
F
F
You
know
that
when
we
have
a
surplus
in
the
general
fund,
it
means
that
we
need
five
or
six
million
dollars
to
get
us
to
through
the
till
the
next
tax
cycle,
so
we're
really
borrowing
from
ourself.
At
that
point
we
need
a
surplus,
so
we
don't
have
to
go
out
and
have
access
to
capital.
So
until
we
have
that
we
will
still
need
ta
WS,
as
most
governmental
units
would,
if
they
were
in
that
situation,
so
a
surplus
isn't
a
surplus.
F
Once
we
get
beyond
that
operating
capital,
we
need
for
those
months,
so
you
can
see
it
on
the
back.
We're
looking
at
proposed.
It's
two
and
a
half
per
year
goes
to
one
and
a
half
and
twenty
two
and
then
zero
and
23,
with
a
actual
financial
plan
on
how
to
use
that
money
to
manage
this.
So
we
can
start
taking
those
big
steps
forward
and
not
interfund
borrowing
anymore.
As
well
so
we
have
a
plan,
we're
executing
it
it's
working
faster
than
we
thought
it
would
and
then
going
forward.
F
F
F
What
financial
model
look
good,
get
a
larger,
ta,
W
and
pay
highway
back
quicker.
You
know,
then
you
have
more
an
interest,
so
that
doesn't
make
sense.
So
you
know
I
just
want
to
make
sure
there's
no
questions
about
the
thought
process
or
why
we
did
what
we
did
or
proposing
to
do
and
asking
the
board
to
codify.
K
The
split
between
the
bank's
the
interest
rate
is
the
same,
and
the
repayment
terms
are
the
same
other
than
the
change
of
dates.
You
know
from
one
year
to
the
other
and
what
the
estimated
interest
costs
are.
You
know
for
this
financing,
and
then
this
is
the
information
that
you
have
is
what
we
shared
with
the
bank's.
You
know.
What's
what's
happened
here
is
basically
a
summary
of
what
you
know
how
it's
affecting
flow
would
pay
down
the
AP.
K
We
had
a
lot
of
major
capital
improvements
that
both
things
of
emergency
items
and
things
that
have
been
discussed
throughout
the
year
and
then
you
know
taking
a
look.
You
know
where
the
cash
on
hand
actually
is
the
status
of
that
it's
very
similar,
even
though
this
was
done
in
October.
When
we
met
with
our
bankers.
The
numbers
are
very
similar
today
that
they
were,
and
you
can
see
you
know
general
unwise.
Just
two
years
ago
the
Jennifer
NetID
negative
fund
balance
our
cash
bail.
K
Excuse
me:
cash
on
hand,
balance
as
of
October
28,
2016,
negative
7.2
million
dollars
in
fast
forward
two
years,
October,
25th
2018.
You
know
a
negative
3.4,
so
significant
change,
but
also
we
still
have
a
ways
to
go
as
well,
and
we
also
have
to
keep
that
in
mind
that,
as
we've
gained
on
this,
you
know
things
improve,
but
it's
still
a
very
much
a
cash
flow
balancing
act
and
we're
heading
into
our
the
the
time
of
the
year
that
we
have
to
watch
it.
K
K
There
were
many
times
after
a
payroll
that
we
were
less
than
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
that
account
with
and
within
two
weeks
needing
another
1.1
million
to
be
able
to
cover
the
next
payroll.
So
they
were
extremely
tight
and
and
times
going
through
the
early
stage
that
we're
talking
the
March
April
May
area.
When
that
happened
so
to
see
that
we
will
potentially
still
be.
K
You
know
above
two
million,
is
that's
actually
a
breath
of
fresh
air
compared
to
some
of
the
previous
years
and
what
we've
been
through
so
still
we're
still
keeping
an
eye
on
it,
because
we
still
have
to
but
yeah
significant
improvements,
but
we
still
have
to
do
diligence.
You
know
with
balancing
balancing
cash,
so
you
know
and
as
we
go
forward
another
you
know
the
projects
in
cash
flow.
You
know
we're
reminding
department
heads.
You
know
that
during
this
time,
the
spring
time
you
know
wintertime
spring
time
to
put
off
large.
K
You
know
purchases,
if
possible,
you
know
sometimes
repairs,
don't
allow
you
to.
You
know
something
breaks.
Sometimes
things
happen,
but
if
we
have
a
choice,
it's
still
important
to
put
those
off
we
as
we've
discussed
in
previous
years.
So
so
this
gives
you
the
the
background.
The
highlight
information
of
our
discussion
and,
like
I
said
we'll
have
the
official
documentation
to
begin
this
next
month.
Next
finance
and
I'm
the
February
board.
If
there's
any
other
questions,
yeah.
A
A
A
F
F
F
We
still
have
that
oversight
than
this
board
will
still
see
all
of
those
claims
that
come
through
and
can
question
anything
they
want
and
should
question
anything
that
looks
improper,
but
in
this
case,
in
order
to
keep
the
cash
moving
in
the
past,
we
have
had
small
subgroups
of
the
Finance
Committee
come
meet
with
the
chairman
and
the
finance
director
to
prioritize
these,
and
this
was
a
long
time
ago.
They
said.
Look
you
guys
know
what's
going
on.
You
know
where,
although
the
balls
are
in
the
air,
why
don't
you
just
handle
it
for
us?
F
So
this
is
an
attempt
to
codify
that
and
satisfy
the
continual
commentary
that
I
don't
have
the
authority
to
do
that,
even
though
this
board
does
approve
and
I
think
we
do
have
the
authority.
This
board
does
approve
the
lump
sum
budget.
We
do
not
have
the
micromanagement
authority
over
elected
department,
heads
budget
line
items,
but
we
can
call
out
something
we
see
as
wasteful,
and
you
know
what
we
do
have
the
hammer
which
is
to
change
their
budget.
F
If
we
think
they're
wasting
money,
we
can
change
their
budget
and
for
the
current
and
the
following
year.
So
I
just
want
to
remind
the
board
that
we
currently
have
that
authority
and
should
use
it
if
we
we
see
necessary.
So
that's
the
general
thing,
our
our
all-stars
state's
attorney
in
the
Civil
Division,
who
usually
does
these
things
is
on
a
beach
somewhere.
So
is.
M
F
A
My
perspective
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
say
as
a
legislative
body,
we
have
an
important
role
in
establishing
policy
and
we
have
an
important
role
in
terms
of
setting
the
overall
budget.
Our
oversight.
Responsibility
comes
not
in
a
sense
of
control,
of
calling
attention
to
expenditures
that
we
think
there
is
a
need
to
have
some
very
some
attention
brought
to,
and
this
is
an
important
aspect
of
what
we
do,
but
it
doesn't
mean
we
control
those
expenditures.
A
What
is
the
rationale
behind
the
expenditure
and
the
basis
of
the
expenditure
and
then
feel
free
to
call
attention
to
those
expenditures
that
you
think
the
public
needs
to
be
aware
of,
even
though
our
actions
not
going
to
lead
to
our
controlling
when
the
person
is
a
separately
elected,
public
official
kind
of
governments,
a
little
complex
and
even
having
a
master's
degree
in
political
science
sometime,
you
say,
I
have
to
stop
and
remind
myself.
Okay,
our
style
is
a
little
bit
different
than
the
style
of
a
town
or
a
village,
and
our
structure
is
different.
F
F
To
that
point,
I
appreciate
that
explanation,
because
it's
very
it's
different
than
a
city
city
doesn't
have
other
elected
department
heads
because
that
comment
keeps
coming
up
in
in
the
city
in
the
city
we
do
in
the
city.
Well,
that's
we're
not
the
city
with
the
county,
there's
other
statutes
that
apply
and
we
don't
have
power
to
control
beyond
what
we
already
control
with
the
budget.
So
thank
you
for
those
comments.
Mr.
A
N
O
N
J
I
kind
of
disagree
I
believe
that
we
are
elected
to
these
positions,
to
monitor
two
sets
of
regulations
and
to
make
sure
that
those
regulations
are
carried
out.
That
includes
the
budget
and
everything
else.
We
are
the
final
status
Tanith
standard
for
making
sure
that
the
funds
are
expended
the
way
that
they
should
be
spent.
That's
to
me
controlled,
it's
not
a
bad
word,
it's
what
we
have
to
do
in
order
to
spend
the
monies
that
are
collected
from
the
members
of
this
County.
The
people
of
this
County.
F
A
A
F
Only
distinction
that
I
was
intending
to
draw
in
the
state's
attorney
has
yet
to
respond
to
this
is,
is
they
would
have
to
gone
through
the
audit
process?
We
can't
just
have
a
bill
show,
but
my
desk
and
I
say
pay
it.
It
has
to
go
through
the
entire
process
and
then
be
ready
and
approved
for
payment.
If
that
makes
sense.
F
You
can't
just
have
everything
sitting
in
the
computer
in
a
queue
because
it
shuts
the
computer
down.
So
what
we
do
is
we
able
to
process
when
we
have
the
money
to
pay
it,
and
so
a
lot
of
this
is
a
cash
management.
A
cash
flow
situation
where
we
said
we
talked
with
mr.
leer
with
an
Ito,
we
work
with
Steve
to
figure
out.
Okay.
This
is
what
we
have.
These
are
the
priorities
we
got
to
get
insurance,
payrolls
and
automatic
credit
cards
are
an
automatic.
F
We
have
to
pay
insurances,
you
know
utilities,
we
can't
have
those
turned
off,
but
then
we
have
all
of
those
other
things
that
come
through
in
a
monthly
basis
that
are
under
the
purview
of
those
elected
department,
heads
that
we
do
not
micromanage
again.
Mr.
Washington's
point
we
should
have
commentary
and
if
we
think
it's
wasteful,
we
can.
We
can
address
that
in
a
budget
and
we
should.
But
that's
not.
The
role
of
the
Finance
Committee
is
to
say
you
shouldn't
be
buying
doors
for
the
jail.
We
should
say
you
just
bought
them
last
year.
F
A
F
A
A
F
Just
to
clarify
the
terms
it's
one
year,
it's
a
five
thousand
a
month
for
the
year
and
it
would
not
be
renewed
until
it
comes
back
to
this.
You
know
committee
and
then
to
the
full
board.
So
if
anybody
had
that
wasn't
here
had
any
questions
about
the
services
you
know,
I
do
have
the
contract
in
front
of
me.
I've
asked
them
to
bring
a
copy,
but
it
will
be
as
part
of
the
packet
for
the
full
board
as
well.
So
whoever.
A
A
L
A
A
So
we
go
back
to
the
resolution.
Is
there
a
motion
on
this
resolution
so
that
we
can
discuss
it?
There's
then
motion
to
approve
motion
to
approve
authorizing
resolution.
The
kind
of
Archer
and
signing
agreement
will
Alfred
G
Roman
TD,
as
their
second
was
Parkhurst.
Any
discussion
on
the
motion
that
Parker's
Parker,
oh
boy,
I
told
you
I
was
going
to
help.
A
B
A
F
F
Pleasure
team,
this
up-
you,
everybody,
has
a
copy
of
the
email.
I,
don't
have
the
luxury
of
looking
at
semantics
and
determining
what
the
intent
of
is
I
have
to
look
at
the
direction
and
I
was
directed
via
that
email
to
at
the
time
payout
$1,750
to
that
was
the
total
at
the
time
to
an
employee
of
the
auditor's
office,
because
he
said
he
came
in
under
budget,
so
the
email
is
there.
Everybody
has
a
chance
to
see
it.
F
I
don't
have
a
the
authority
to
question,
as
my
research
and
initial
thoughts
were
proven,
correct
by
the
state's
attorney's
office,
so
I
had
to
react,
and
so
at
this
point
that
mandate
still
stands
at
apparently
I.
Don't
know
from
public
comment
what
that
means
that
are
we
not
supposed
to
act
on
it
or
we
are
now?
F
F
I
want
to
use
interfund
borrowing
money
to
give
to
my
employee,
who
agreed
on
a
pay
the
pay
that
they
were
going
to
get
paid
by
the
county
by
the
way
they
knew
what
they
were
getting
paid
by
the
county,
and
that
did
include
a
bonus
of
interfund
borrowing
money.
So
you
may
call
it
marketing
on
the
way
it
was
titled.
I
tried
to
be
as
clear
as
I
possibly
could,
because
in
order
for
it
to
be
on
the
agenda,
it
has
to
be
specific.
F
So
it
was
up
to
this
committee
to
just
to
know
that
I
can't
stop
them
through
policy,
okay,
whatever
when
was
we
talked
about
before,
so
it
was
a
chance
for
mr.
Lee
to
explain
that
action
I
his
explanation
to
be
disingenuous
from
what
happened
before
I
think
he's
attempt
to
walk
everything
back
when
it's
clear
what
was
in
that
email
and
to
me
I've
I,
think
it's
the
most
egregious
waste
of
taxpayer
monies
I've
seen
since
I've
been
here.
There
is
no
public
purpose
to
this.
F
If
we
can't
buy
flowers
for
a
Sheriff's,
Department
retiree
who
passes
away
and
what
we
can
give
a
employee,
a
bonus
of
taxpayer
money
that
we
have
to
enter
fund
ro,
it
makes
no
sense
to
me,
and
so
that's
why
I
had
to
bring
it
to
the
committee
just
to
let
them
know.
And
obviously
you
know
where
we're
at
Mr.
L
F
You,
mr.
chairman,
we
changed
the
policy
and
the
executive
committee
meeting
and
that
will
hopefully
be
approved
at
the
full
board
level,
but
just
like
the
flower
policy,
elected
officials
can
go
outside
of
that
they're
not
bound
by
our
policy
and
procedure
handbook.
So
there
is
nothing
that
we
can
do
from
a
policy
standpoint
so
like.
If
the
state's
attorney
came
in
$100,000
over
budget
or
under
budget
which
I
welcome
by
the
way,
no
your
honor,
he
he
could
technically
hand
out
$5,000
bonuses
to
all
of
his
employees
if
he
wanted
to.
F
L
F
N
Nevermind
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
I
was
gonna.
Ask
the
auditor.
If
the
employee
was
aware
of
the
salary
they
accepted,
what
I
mean
I've
taken
jobs
and
I
work
in
the
private
sector
and
I
take
what
I
get
I
don't
expect
any
more
and
I
was
gonna,
bring
up
the
corner
in
Criminal
Justice
last
week
stated
he
saved
the
county
$80,000
and
that
went
back.
It
was
none
I'm,
gonna
split
this
up
I
mean
again
it's
taxpayer
money.
This
isn't
the
private
sector.
Where
we're
where
that
happened,
it's
frequent
it.
N
G
A
F
A
F
F
Don't
think
I
have
the
authority
or
the
purview
to
take
up
the
mantle
for
gender
discrimination
and
I
thought
that
was
way
Otakon
out
of
hand,
because
this
employee,
who
does
as
far
as
I
know
good
work,
was
hired
knowing
what
she
was
gonna
make
she
agreed
to
that
pay
and
to
assume
that
I
am
her
to
say
that
I
am
discriminating
against
this
employee
is
offensive,
but
I
am
NOT
going
to
speak
for
other
women.
I
will
let
them
determine
if
that
hurts
the
cause
of
equal
opportunity
and
employment.
J
I
had
this
to
that
employee,
regardless
of
our
qualifications,
she
knew
what
she
was
getting
when
she
started,
but
that's
one
of
the
one
of
the
founding
principles
of
hiring
someone.
You
tell
them
what
they
expect
when
they
start,
you
don't
bring
them
in
and
said.
Well,
it
just
depends
on
what
you
do
or
how
you
perform.
It
doesn't
matter
about
their
qualifications.
They
accept
the
position
for
what
they
tell
told
that
they
will
get
paid.
A
F
We
just
remember
this:
this
Board
approved
a
budget
increase
for
the
auditor's
office,
so
this
employee
could
get
more
money
because
we
realized
that,
even
though
they're
making
what
the
other
employee
made
that
we
wanted
to
recognize
good
work,
and
but
it
wasn't
a
bonus,
it
was
a
next
year's
budget,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
everybody
know
that
that
we
gave
it
a
little
bit
more
money
to
that
employee.
So
it's
not
like
we're
heartless
and
cruel
and
discriminating
I
mean
I
just
mean.
O
O
One
of
them
is,
we
noted
there
was
two
claims
submitted
for
polo
shirts
that
were
considered
uniforms.
I
happen
to
know
a
little
bit
about
this
and
I
think
they
saved
the
county
about
a
hundred
and
some
dollars
by
getting
the
shirts
and
haven't
been
brighten
themselves,
but
number
two.
He
says
we
noted
that
several
departments
have
ordered
coffee,
plasticware
and
other
personal
items
under
object
code.
O
The
account
50
680
office
supplies
we
respectively
request
that
every
department
that
expands
funds,
public
funds
for
such
items
would
provide
a
memorandum
for
the
record
to
the
auditor's
office
certifying
that
such
expenditures
are
primarily
for
general
public
public
use
and
consumption,
not
personal
consumption
by
employees
and
elected
officials.
Where
are
we
going.
O
And
then
we
have
three
and
four
and
number
four
says
the
auditor's
office
was
constructively
abolished,
illegal
ill
legitimately.
Why
I
can't
even
pronounce
it,
and
we
continue
to
recommend
that
the
office
restored
to
where
it
belongs
by
state
law?
Now
I
believe
I've
asked
the
state's
attorney's
office
twice.
If
we've
done
anything
you
illegal
or
anything
like
that,
and
they
have
said
no.
Why
do
we
keep
getting
letters
like?
Yes
in
our
packet.
F
As
a
comment
for
administration,
I
buy
the
water.
Personally,
I
buy
the
coffee,
a
claim
went
through
on
coffee
that
I
grabbed
because
he
got
billed
through
quill
and
paid
it
myself,
I
paid
for
the
flowers
for
a
funeral
and
it
sent
an
email
to
board
members
that
they
want
to
start
to
pass
the
Hat
so
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
what
department
that
was
about.
It
was
probably
another
gotcha
situation
or
victimization
statement.
F
Now
I
will
speak
to
the
polos
that
that
kind
of
took
me
back
a
little
bit,
because
these
polos
don't
say
Bob
guests
are
on
the
greatest
corner.
Ever
they
say,
can
key
County
Coroner
because
they
go
to
crime
scenes
and
they
need
to
be
easily
identifiable
and
to
say
that
there's
an
IRS
violation,
because
they're
getting
swag
I
mean
when
the
IRS
raids
somebody
does
it
say
on
the
back.
You
know
whoever
the
head
of
the
IRS
is
with
their
picture.
Know
it
says
IRS.
F
Do
they
have
to
claim
that
on
their
taxes,
I,
don't
know
where
to
mr.
houses.
Point
I,
don't
know
where
all
this
is
going.
I
mean
this
is
just
we
see
claims
rejected
because
there's
a
penny
rounding
error,
so
it
doesn't
come
through
to
the
committee.
It
gets
submitted
back
and
said
to
the
phone
getting
picked
up
and
called
and
say:
hey
you
made
a
mistake:
can
I
attach
an
email
to
this?
It
says
your
email
saying:
go
ahead
and
correct
it.
We
have
to
go
through
the
whole
process.
F
A
N
F
Reason
that
we're
handing
out
the
budget,
we
wanted
to
wait
until
the
last
possible
moment
to
see
what
claims
were
processed
through
the
auditor's
office,
because
it's
in
his
email
he
mentioned
that
there's
you
know,
claims
could
be
coming
in
so
as
we
go
through
this
process.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
at
the
last
possible
moment
we
had
the
best
information
for
when
we
amend
his
FY
18
budget.
F
K
On
those
65
is
funds
through
the
Will
County
project
that
we
did
and
it's
been
used
for
capital
and
emergency
repairs
and
capital
improvements
and
with
the
scope
and
through
the
projects
that
have
been
approved
through
the
course
of
the
year.
We
needed
to
raise
that
budget
up
to
include
all
of
those.
K
We
had
some
retro
pay
through
a
couple
union
contracts
and
through
payouts
and
some
retirements
which
affected
pensions
and
the
two
circuit
clerk
related
items,
and
then
the
Fed
task
force,
that's
federal,
seizure
money
and
we're
just
making
sure
that,
with
the
scope
of
what
the
sheriff
determines
the
use
on
that,
and
also
to
make
sure
the
budget
matches
up
to
that
for
reporting
purposes
and
for
those
items
as
well.
So
that's
a
brief
overview.
Anybody
has
any
questions.
F
F
A
Question
of
discussion
on
the
budget
amendments,
we
need
a
motion
to
approve
the
budget
amendments.
Mr.
Kissinger
moves
to
approve
the
budget
minutes.
Is
there
a
second
mr.
Washington
seconds
the
motion
discussion
on
the
budget
amendments?
Hearing
no
discussion
will
need
a
roll
hold
vote
on
that.
Yes,
I
need
a
roll
call
vote
on
there.
B
F
F
The
auditor's
office
was
not
able
to
Peru,
provide
any
proof
that
it
was
chases
fault,
even
though
that
was
the
assertion
and
accountants.
Don't
speak
like
that.
Accountants
go
with
facts
and
they
go
with
numbers,
and
so
we
have
because
of
accountability
and
transparency.
We
now
have
to
spend
money
to
find
out
why
we
had
to
pay
that
money.
It
seems
ridiculous,
but
all
this.
F
This
is
what
we
have
to
do,
because
the
public
needs
to
know
exactly
where
the
error
is
made
so
where
we
have
contracted
or
have
in
front
of
us
to
contract
it's
up
to
3,500,
it
could
be
less.
We
have
to
audit
all
of
the
credit
card
statements
and
bills
from
17
and
18,
and
then
we
also
have
to
audit
the
clearing
account,
which
is
where
all
of
those
go
at
one
time,
and
then
we
do
joint
journal
vouchers
to
allocate
those
expenses
to
the
departments.
So
it's
a
little
bit
of
accounting
and
I.
F
Don't
want
to
really
go
through
that,
but
we
have
to
basically
audit
that
whole
process,
so
we
can
go
back
to
chase
and
say
you
owe
us
more
money
or
to
find
out
where
the
process
broke
down
because
it
was
the
dog
ate.
My
homework
is
not
the
best
answer.
Accountants.
Don't
talk
like
that,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
go
through
this
process
to
do
it
the
right
way
and
that's
our
job
to
do
it
this
way.
A
A
F
Think
that,
while
it
may
seem
like
that,
on
the
surface
these,
this
is
part
of
our
outside
audit
that
would
get
douve
into
deeper.
When
you
start
talking
about
some
of
these
credit
cards
purchase
things
that
were
under
grants,
this
part
gets
looked
at
and
it
does
every
single
year
and
we
have
found
things
that
we're
done
inappropriately
in
the
past.
So
this
is
all
part
of
that
process.
A
byproduct
of
it
is
is
to
be
able
to
find
out
where
the
problem
is.
Is
there
something
we're
doing
wrong?
F
F
We
have
asked
that
and
I
don't
know
if
Annie
is
still
here,
but
it's
it's.
This
is
a
more
detailed
situation,
because
on
the
surface
they
get
more
detailed
as
they
find
errors.
Don't
get
me
wrong,
it's
a
very
detailed
outside
audit.
This
is
specific
to
that.
Clearing
account
and
all
of
the
credit
card
bills
are
outside
audit
deals
with
5060
million
dollars
worth
of
all
the
things
that
we
do,
and
so
when
they
find
in
something
that's
like
okay.
Well,
this
is
a
problem
in
their
test.
Then
they
go
dig
deep
and
hard.
F
We
have
to
jump
through
a
lot
of
Hoops,
and
sometimes
the
answer
is
not
what
we
want
it
to
be.
This
is
for
the
county,
but
the
auditors
find
the
the
outside
auditors
do
their
job
so
I
wished.
It
could
be
part
of
that
much
like
our
changeover
audits
that
when
an
elected
department
changes,
we
have
to
have
an
audit
on
that
which
the
auditor
correctly
identified
that
we
weren't
doing
and
I
don't
know
that
we
ever
did
at
the
county.
F
I
had
to
spend
$20,000,
they
have
those
performed
by
an
outside
company
because
we
didn't
have
at
the
time
a
CPA
that
could
do
it
in-house
or
that
had
the
ability
to
do
in-house,
because
there
would
have
been
one
of
the
people
that
were
audited.
So
in
this
case
it
is
kind
of
what
it
is
and
it's
unfortunate
I
don't
want
to
do
it,
but
the
public
demands
to
know.
Why
did
if
you
pay
your
credit
cards
when
they're
due
you
have
no
fees.
So
what
happened?
F
P
L
F
Said
that
Chase
has
not
offered
to
give
us
refunds,
they
did
write
off
some
of
it
and
but
I
don't
have
the
exact
amounts,
but
I
ended
up
still
paying
I.
Take
a
couple
grand
over
the
last
couple
years:
taxpayer
money
so
2600
yeah.
So
that's
why
we
have
to
find
out
what
happened
and
where
the
breakdown
is
because
if
we
got
a
problem
with
our
process
on
anybody
side,
we
need
to
fix
it.
F
A
O
B
A
L
B
A
Next
item
every
two
years,
we
need
to
establish
a
certification
or
recertification
for
the
Illinois
Municipal
retirement
fund
eligibility
for
the
Chairman
vice
chairman.
This
is
something
that
is
required
by
their
system
and
so
we're
going
to
need
a
motion
to
do
that.
Mr.
altough
moves
mr.
worse
in
seconds.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
this?
A
Any
other
questions
if
there
are
no
other
questions
and
as
I
understand
that
this
does
require
on
the
part
of
the
Chairman
and
the
vice-chairman
meeting
a
standard
in
terms
of
hours
of
participation.
So
clearly
the
chairman
is
going
to
make
that
the
vice
chairman
will
depend
upon
just
keeping
adequate
records
in
all
right.
Any
other
discussion,
if
not
all
in
favor
of
the
motion,
say
aye
roll-call
taken.
A
B
G
F
Received
a
call
from
Circuit
Clerk
regarding
we're
talking
about
some
other
things,
but
this
came
up.
She
has.
You
may
know
that
we
built
in
the
budget
that
we
were
going
to
be
able
to
allow
them
to
rehire
or
fill.
You
know,
positions
that
have
been
open
since
the
budget
crash.
If
you
will,
and
that
was
gonna
be
when
we
got
out
of
the
hole.
That's
what
we
had
said
for
the
Sheriff's
Department.
They
could
put
a
couple
people
back,
we'll
put
a
maintenance
guy
out
at
the
jail.
F
What
we
have
is
a
situation
where
she
has
two
people
off
on
FMLA
and
a
third
getting
ready
to
go,
and
so
I
told
her
that
I
said
you
tell
me
you
have
to
have
this
or
else
we
should
we
shut
courtrooms
down
and
if
she
wants
to
speak
to
that,
please
that's
why
I
told
her
to
come
here,
even
though
it's
not
on
the
agenda
I
want.
She
wanted
to
make
you
aware
of.
What's
going
on.
Thank.
M
You
that's
true.
We
one
of
the
FMLA,
though,
is
not
going
to
pursue
that,
but
still
it's
been
we're
just
we
hit.
We
are
working
with
our
hands
but
tied
up
behind
our
back
our
minute
clerks
that
go
to
court.
I
have
one
that
still
has
work
from
September
to
get
done.
We
have
a
lot
of
mandates
where
we're
supposed
to
have
information
passed
on
like
the
convictions
and
things
are
supposed
to
be
passed
on
it
in
five
days
and
we're
like
months
behind.
So
you
know
for
us
to
really
catch
up.
M
So
we
have
a
lot
of
work
and
we're
just
we're
just
falling
behind
and
it's
it's
it's
hard
for
us
I'm
working
the
order,
protection
counter
a
lot
of
times
the
chief
deputy
is
filling
in
is
everywhere
that
she
can
and
she's
not
getting
her
work
done
and
I'm
not
getting
my
work
done.
So
we
just
would
really
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
post
those
right
after
the
first
of
the
year,
so
that
we
can
get
moving
because
the
training
takes
a
long
time
and
we're
just
worn
out
we're
just
tired.
M
You
know
and
with
all
the
new
cases
that
are
always
being
filed
and
things
it's
it's
just
hard
to
keep
up.
So
thank
you
and
I.
Also
wanted
to
say
too,
that
I
am
a
department
had
an
elected
official
that
I
pay
for
my
own
conferences
out
of
my
own
pocket.
The
only
thing
that
I
submit
to
the
county
to
pay
for
is
the
registration
for
these
conferences.
I,
never
asked
for
mileage.
M
I
never
asked
for
the
reimbursement
for
the
rooms
and
I
go
to
conferences
three
times
a
year,
so
I
do
make
personal
sacrifices
for
my
office
so
that
I
can
have
the
staff
so
that
the
money
can
be
budgeted
for
staff.
So
when
I
say
that
we
are
behind,
you
know
we
are
really
behind,
and
I
really
would
appreciate
the
assistance
and
the
help.
Thank
you.
A
I
Forgot
one
thing
and
I
I
probably
said
enough
already
today,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
as
someone
who
witnessed
it
on
the
front
lines.
Anita's
health
sign
ups
were
so
efficient
this
year
and
my
employees
loved
it
and
that's
all
I've
heard
on
the
first
floor,
how
great
it
was
and
I
think
it's
important
to
recognize
that
and
tell
her.
Thank
you.