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Finance Committee Meeting 6/28/2017 9:00AM
A
Okay,
I
want
to
call
the
finance
committee
meeting
of
wednesday
june
28
2017
at
9
00
a.m.
Together.
Mr
johnson
could
not
be
here
today.
So,
as
vice
chairman,
I
will
take
his
place.
B
A
Okay,
we
have
no
presentations.
Are
you
going
to
do
that
you're?
Not
doing
that
now?
Andy?
Are
you?
Okay,
I'll,
need
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
the
minutes
of
may
24
2017.
Mr
cyrus?
Second,
with
mr
washington
of
a
voice
vote
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
all
opposed
motion
carries
county
auditor,
j
clay.
A
B
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
good
morning.
Everyone.
It
is
that
time
of
year
again,
by
which
we
submit
our
quarterly
report
and,
as
I
had
indicated
last
month,
I
would
have
it
prepared
for
you.
I
also
have
this
available.
If
you'd
like
to
have
me
email
it
that's,
not
a
problem,
I
can
email
the
the
information
as
well.
D
I
thought
we'd
go
in
a
little
bit
different
direction,
because
I've
gotten
a
lot
of
questions
about
what
we're
responsible
for,
and
I
get
those
questions
when
I'm
out
in
the
community
town
hall
meetings
or
other
presentations.
I
do,
and
so
I
wanted
to
just
kind
of
remind
everyone
what
I
found
out
via
my
own
research
and
also
from
the
conference
association,
which
I'm
glad
to
be
a
part
of
as
well
before
I
go
there
to
this
report,
though,
are
there
any
questions
on
the
claims
report
that
I
can
entertain?
D
It's
it's
pretty
straightforward.
There
wasn't
anything
significant
this
past
may
with
the
claims.
So,
but
if
there
are
any
questions,
okay,
all
right,
so
the
quarterly
report-
we
we
all
know
that
state
statute
requires
us
to
report
quarterly
to
the
county
board.
Several
things,
and
so
I'd
like
to
just
kind
of
next
slide-
please
go
to
some
of
the.
This
is
the
scope
of
the
quarterly
report.
D
If
I
could
call
your
attention
to
the
screen,
we're
supposed
to
report
on
the
entire
financial
operations
of
the
county,
and
that
includes
revenues
anticipated
and
received
expenditures
estimated
and
paid.
So
this
is
things
that
has
actually
taken
place
and
things
that
are
projected
to
take
place,
obligations,
unpaid
and
conditions
of
all
funds
and
other
pertinent
information.
D
The
ones
I
have
in
bold
are
things
that
the
auditor's
office
at
the
point
in
which
we
generate
this
report
may
or
may
not
be
aware
of,
because
a
lot
of
the
projections
and
the
obligations
unpaid
things
like
that
rests
with
the
finance
department,
and
so
some
of
this
stuff,
maybe
may
not
be
as
current
as
possible.
So
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that,
even
though
it's
statutorily
required,
we
just
do
the
best
we
can
with
our
projections
based
on
the
information
we
have
so
next
slide,
please
all
right.
D
So
the
criteria
for
the
auditor,
a
lot
of
people,
don't
realize
that
this
is
an
article.
Seven
section
four
constitutional
office
as
the
other
county
whites
are
it's
regulated
by
statute
established
55,
ilcs,
five
ilcs543-1001.
D
The
criteria
is
that
you
must
have
75
000
people
in
your
county
as
a
minimum,
so
between
75
and
3
million
that
establishes
the
office
of
auditor
the
counties
then,
once
they
meet
that
criteria
and
of
course
you
know
the
reason
there
are
so
few
auditors
is
most
of
your
counties
in
illinois.
Approximately
three
quarters
of
them
are
not
at
seventy.
Five
thousand
we've
got
102
counties,
and
most
of
them
are
pretty
small
but
kankakee
county.
It's
about
110,
000,
and
so
therefore,
the
office
of
auditor
was
established
next
slide.
D
Please,
so
our
duties
are
outlined,
vis-a-vis
the
statute
as
well,
and
I've
got
the
reference
there
for
you
a
lot
of
this
stuff.
I
again
I
found
out
by
my
own
research
and
as
I
see
this,
I
like
to
communicate
with
people.
So
they
know
what
questions
to
ask
me
and
what
kind
of
information
I
am
not
only
obligated
by
law
but
morally
obligated
to
give
them,
as
it
relates
to
accountability
and
transparency.
D
So
one
of
the
first
things
we're
supposed
to
do
is
audit
all
claims
against
the
county
and
recommend
to
the
county
board
the
payment
or
rejection
of
all
claims
presented.
Now
this
is
one
that
kind
of
gets
people
confused,
because
the
auditor
doesn't
unilaterally
decide
what
happens
and
what
doesn't
happen.
We
recommend
to
this
body
who
then
recommends
to
the
full
board,
if
necessary
or
whatever,
what
gets
paid.
What
doesn't?
D
There's
a
ton
of
claims
that
come
through
and
we
we
have
our
process
of
what
we
verify
and
not
last
month,
which
I'll
report
on
next
month
had
a
lot
of
issues
with
claims
that
we're
trying
to
work
through
with
things
the
claims
not
being
signed
by
the
department
head,
which
means
they're
not
authorized.
D
You
know
they're
being
charged
to
the
wrong
lines,
different
things
like
that,
so
we're
working
on
those
next
slide,
please
collecting
analyzing
and
preserving
statistical
financial
information.
A
lot
of
this
information
already
exists
with
our
comprehensive
annual
financial
report.
D
That
has
not
been
done
as
far
as
we
can
tell
ever
by
this
office,
and
so
we
are
changing
that
I'm
working
with
the
county
clerk,
mr
bruce
clark
to
kind
of
have
a
cooperative,
because
the
county
clerk
will
have
all
those
contracts
and
resolutions
that
follow
et
cetera
and
so
we're
working
on
getting
into
compliance
in
this
area
so
that,
if
something
comes
up,
we
we
know
where
to
go
for
that
information.
D
We'll
take
a
look
at
it
because
furthering
the
statute
next
slide,
please
it'll
it'll
tell
us
it's
after
actually,
after
this
one,
but
I'll
hit
the
bottom
one.
First,
then,
further
in
the
slides
it'll
tell
us
that
we're
supposed
to
look
at
the
basis
for
which
things
that
are
charged
to
the
county
are
so
one
of
the
discussions
that
came
up
is
the
prevailing
wage
discussion
and
that's
something
that
our
office
is
charged
to
look
at
and
determine
whether
or
not
we're
doing
business
with
companies
that
are
in
compliance
and
so
forth.
D
That's
you
know,
analyzing
the
basis
of
what's
charged
to
the
county
audit,
all
receipts,
that's
basically,
cash!
That's
brought
in
there
are
statutes
like
we're
working
with
sandy
our
circuit
clerk
to
establish
processes
by
which
we
are
testing
and
auditing
her
funds,
particularly
the
cash
funds,
and
looking
at
some
of
those
things
next
slide.
Please.
D
This
is
the
maintaining
the
internal
audit,
the
continuous
internal
audit
of
operations
and
financial
records.
D
My
counterparts
across
the
state
have
at
the
training
one
of
the
things
they
said.
Is
they
get
a
lot
of
mileage
for
the
productivity
audits
they
do
now?
I
tend
to
look
at
it
as
being
a
neighborhood
consultant
to
our
other
elected
officials
and
department
heads
I'm
not
in
the
business
of
trying
to
tell
someone
how
to
run
their
office.
D
They
know
how
to
run
it
and
the
statute
gives
them
internal
controls,
but
there
are
some
things
that,
as
you
work
together
and
you
kind
of
look
at
different
processes
and
procedures,
you'll
discover
that
there's
a
better
way.
I'm
of
the
philosophy
that
there's
always
a
better
way,
it's
up
to
us
to
discover
what
that
better
way
is,
and
so
we're
supposed
to
do
that,
and
the
auditor,
of
course,
shall
have
access
to
all
records
documents
and
resources
necessary
for
this
discharge
it.
D
It
has
been
one
of
the
things
that
people
have
been
very
cooperative
with
me
and
I'm
very
appreciative
of
that.
But,
as
I
try
to
answer
questions
with
the
public,
they
just
wonder.
Well
how
do
you
get
this
information
I'm
like?
Well,
you
know
we
by
statute,
shall
have
that
access.
You
know
it's
it's
not
optional,
so
audit
the
documentation,
records
and
the
basis,
that's
what
I
was
talking
about
earlier
next
slide.
Please-
and
these
are
a
few
statutory
obligations
that
that
currently
do
not
reside
in
the
auditor's
office.
D
One
is
in
counties
under
275
000,
we're
to
be
the
general
accountant
of
the
county.
Basically
the
comptroller
and
keeps
its
general
accounts
number
two
appoint
deputies
and
employees.
You
know
we
only
have
one
in
the
auditor's
office
right
now
due
to
budgetary
cuts
to
the
office
and
the
bottom.
One
is
one
that
I'm
working
on.
The
association
gives
us
continuing
education
for
which
is
required
by
statute
a
minimum
of
20
hours.
D
I
am
actually
pursuing
an
additional
degree
on
top
of
my
mba
to
hopefully
satisfy
this
exponentially,
but
there's
an
issue
I'm
not
sure
where
the
cross
is
yet
in
terms
of
another
degree
fulfilling
this
particular
obligation.
So
I've
got
the
association's
council
looking
into
that
for
me,
because
my
goal
is
that
the
county
would
possibly
save
some
money
by
me
using
benefits
that
I
earned
when
I
was
in
the
united
states
navy
to
go
to
school
and
fulfill
this
obligation
as
opposed
to
charging
my
association
costs
to
the
county.
D
So
I'm
working
on
that
and
that'll
be
one
way
in
which
we
can
save
money
and-
and
I
hope
to
be
able
to
do
that
next
year-
next
slide.
Please
now
we're
going
to
get
into
the
the
financials.
This
is
a
little
busy,
I'm
I
I
get
that
and
it's
a
little
hard
to
see,
but
this
is
basically
a
10-year
fiscal
comparison
and
you
know
I
like
charts
and
graphs.
D
So
that's
why
I
have
them
up
there
and
basically
what
this
data
tells
you
is
that
from
pretty
much
since
fy
12
we're
looking
at
there
all
the
way
through
fy15
expenses
have
exceeded
revenue
and
I've
got
in
the
middle.
The
percentage
change
and
again
I
can
provide
in
the
quarterly
report,
that's
emailed
out
where
the
link
is.
D
This
is
part
of
that
and
it's
much
easier
to
see
and
much
cleaner,
but
we've
got
the
percentage
change
between
the
years,
because
I
think
it's
important
if
you're
going
to
trend
data,
you
want
to
know
how
did
it
change
from
last
year
to
the
year
before,
and
so
that's
what
we
try
to
do
here.
The
projections
that
I
have
because
remember
we're
supposed
to
report
on
estimated
and
actuals
are
are
basically
revenue
is
a
a
percentage
increase
based
on
a
four-year
rolling
average
is
basically
what
that
is
and
then
expenditures.
D
I
project
those
based
off
of
the
cpi,
you'll
see
in
the
next
couple
of
slides
that
our
current
expenditures,
year-to-date
have
increased
relative
to
last
year.
By
about
1.83
percent
the
cpi,
the
rolling
12-month
consumer
price
index
is
1.89,
and
so
that's
how
I
index
my
expenditures
when
it
comes
to
my
projections
and
you'll,
see
that
that
shows.
If
we
push
that
out
five
years,
we'll
see
that
the
general
fund
will
come
to
zero,
and
this
is
all
an
estimation
sometime
after
the
year
2022.
D
So
that
is
a
that's
significant
and
so
we're
we're
that's
what
this
information
basically
represents.
Next
slide,
please
so
here
here
I
I
do
two
things
with
this
information.
This
is
just
the
general
fund
and
again
I
estimate
quarters
three
and
four
because
that
hasn't
taken
place.
Yet
this
is
only
through
may
31st
of
2017.,
so
this
is
only
quarter
one
and
quarter
two
represented
in
this
data
of
fy17
fy
16
and
before
is
all
actuals.
So
the
percentage
changes
that
you
see
or
excuse
me
the.
D
Revenue
versus
expenditures
that
you
see
is
all
actual,
and
you
see
how
in
fy
16
we
were
about
20
000
in
the
black.
You
see
that
1979
fy
fy17
we're
projecting
to
be
at
about
1
million
29,
and
that
sounds
exciting
right
revenues
will
exceed
expenses
in
the
general
fund,
but
that
money
is
already
spoken
for.
The
chairman
will
tell
you
and
I'm
sure,
steve
mccarty
will
tell
you
that
we've
already
got
obligations
for
that
and
I've.
D
D
So,
even
though
we're
projecting
for
revenues
to
exceed
expenditures
this
year,
that
money
is
already
accounted
for,
and
it
would
be
our
recommendation
of
course,
that
anything
that
is
extra
quote
unquote
is
used
for
debt
reduction
and
the
inner
fund.
Borrowing
that
you
know
I
hate
so
much
and
then,
of
course,
we
project
out
18
through
22,
is
all
speculation
based
on
the
criteria
I
told
you
before,
but
we
do
see
revenue
exceeding
expenses
based
on
our
index
and
based
on
the
data
that's
available
to
us.
D
D
You
know
bringing
down
to
other
people,
millions
of
dollars
in
terms
that
are
meaningful
for
them,
but
most
of
us,
you
know,
can
understand
thousands
pretty
easily
the
nice
thing
about
it.
Is
the
percentages?
Don't
change.
The
percentages
are
the
same
because
it's
a
relative
ratio,
but
it's
easier
to
identify.
Okay,
that
makes
sense
we're
at
27
642.
You
know
28
000
et
cetera,
so
so
I
just
re.
D
This
is
the
exact
same
information
on
the
slide
before,
but
I
represent
the
data
in
thousands
just
so
that,
if
you
hand
it
to
someone,
you
know
it's
really
easy
to
to
translate
that
for
them,
because
most
people
aren't
financial
people.
I
was
speaking
to
a
group
yesterday,
a
small
group
and
they
say
well,
I
don't
know
about
all
this
money
stuff,
I'm
like!
Well,
that's!
Okay!
That's
why
you
elected
me
so
we'll
get
it
straight
next
slide,
please!
D
This
is
where
you
know
we
could
probably
get
a
little
excited
with
the
quote:
light
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel.
D
How
you
get
this
information
is
basically
you
take
the
the
revenue
over
expenses,
hopefully-
and
you
add
it
to
the
existing
fund
balance
and
hopefully
it
will
reduce
the
existing
fund
balance
if
it's
in
the
negative,
like
the
general
fund,
if
it's
positive,
you
want
it
to
increase
it,
and
so,
in
my
last
quarterly
report
I
had
mentioned,
we
need
a
million
dollars
between
general
pension
and
tort
and
people
are
like
well,
what
does
that
mean?
D
You
know
this
and
that
and
I
said
well,
I
I
should
probably
explain
that
a
little
bit
better,
and
so
I
just
pulled
the
data
and
again
with
the
it
all
pulls
from
the
for
fy,
the
end
of
17,
18
and
beyond
all
pulls
from
revenues
and
expenses
that
I
have
indexed
using
the
forecasting
models
that
I
like
from
business
school
and
and
that's
the
representation
you
see,
and
it
all
reflects
the
same
representation
that
we
see
in
our
kafir
up
to
2017.
D
in
17.
The
blue
is
the
general
fund
and
you
see
how
the
bottom
fell
out
and
then
there's
the
upwards
trend.
That's
because
we're
projecting
each
year
to
reduce
the
negative
fund
balance
of
the
general
fund.
If
all
things
remain
equal.
If
we
go
on
spending
splurges
or
if
we
have
lawsuits
or
if
we
have
any
kind
of
issues
that
hits
these
funds
in
a
negative
way.
All
of
this
becomes
irrelevant
and
it's
going
to
look
much
different.
D
But,
as
you
can
see,
it
is
exciting
to
see
the
trend
with
with
tort
and
the
red
and
pension
is
in
the
green,
and
this
is
all
based
on
what
I
know-
and
I
just
use
average
indexing
models
for
the
revenue
side
and
on
the
expense
side.
I
use
the
consumer
price
index
so
and
our
numbers
are
very
close
to
the
consumer
price
index.
It's
only
a
point:
zero,
six
percent
difference.
So
it's
it's
really
close.
So
I
think
that's
a
good
model.
The
next.
The
next
thing.
D
The
next
step
I
want
to
do,
which
isn't
included
in
this
presentation,
is
I'll
put
together
a
kind
of
a
quarterly
control
chart.
If
you
will
so
that
you
can
really
see
how
are
these
years
deviating
from
each
other
and
and
what
is
the
trend
like
over
time?
What's
causing
those
trends,
for
example
the
early
tax
distribution,
skewed,
the
revenue
numbers,
and
so
you
have
to
pull
that
out
and
then
do
your
calculation.
D
Otherwise,
you
end
up
overstating
revenue
one
of
the
problems
that
I've
noticed,
and
this
is
just
my
opinion
that
I've
noticed
as
I've
studied
our
finances
is
that
we
have
a
habit
of
overstating
revenue
and
understating
expenses,
and
so
that
creates
a
cash
crisis
so
using
data
that
is
really
as
close
as
you
could
possibly
get.
Perhaps
arguably
you
may
be
able
to
avoid
some
of
the
cash
crises
that
we
see,
not
all
of
them.
D
D
I
think,
oh
okay,
one
of
the
things
that
mr
vickery
I'm
glad
he's
here
and
I
got
your
printed
packet
for
you
is
he
wanted
to
see
the
performance,
the
performance
of
departments,
and
so
this
is
the
revenue
side.
The
far
right
column
is
the
percentage
change
between
2016
and
17,
and
then
the
totals
at
the
bottom
we're
up
17.61
percent
on
the
revenue
side.
D
That
is
very
encouraging.
This
will
not
be
a
normal
trend.
Things
happening
with
the
department
of
homeland
security
with
our
county
sheriff
is
a
major
driver
in
that
number.
So
that's
not
going
to
continue
at
17.
You
don't
grow
at
that
rate,
okay,
but
it
is
encouraging
to
see
that,
based
on
the
data,
we
have
that's
what
we're
seeing
by
department
increase
in
fees
we're
starting
to
see
that
show
up
and
rep
be
represented
in
our
revenue
numbers,
so
that
is
very
exciting.
Next
slide,
please.
D
This
will
show
you
expenses,
it's
a
little
hard
to
see
because
there's
more
expense
departments
right,
you
know
than
revenue
departments,
and
that's
where
I
got
my
1.83
down
bottom
right
hand:
corner
expenses
relative
last
year
the
increase
is
1.83,
which
makes
sense
again
because
the
cpi
is
1.89,
now
we're
trending
a
little
less
than
the
cpi,
which
is
exciting.
That
means
we're
holding
the
line
on
expenses,
but
I
expect
at
a
minimum
expenses
to
continue
to
increase
at
the
cpi,
or
this
number
I
use
the
higher
number
with
expenses.
D
Because
again,
I
think
it's
more
advantageous
for
us
to
get
a
good
financial
picture
is
to
I'd
rather
overstate
expenses
than
understate
them.
So
because,
then,
if
we
end
up
with
more
money
than
we
thought
we
would
have,
we
could
do
some
debt
reduction
or
you
know,
limit
our
inner
fund,
borrowing
which
again
you
know
I
don't
like,
but
anyway,
this
is
how
departments
are
performing
next
slide.
This
is
the
one
that
most
people
are
interested
in
now
these
numbers.
D
I
have
to
qualify
three
things
number
one
they're
based
on
last
year's
budget,
which
was
24.7
million.
I
believe
so
all
if
you
look
at
68
or
69
percent
of
the
departments,
are,
are
tracking
to
be
over
budget
relative
to
last
year's
budget.
So
this
goes
to
the
conversation
of
the
budget,
amendments
that
I
I
believe
will
take
place
later
on
this
morning,
and
this
is
what
we
see
in
terms
of
how
how
we
are
trending
the
auditor's
office.
D
I
have
asterisk
because
it
shows
us
at
about
100
that's
skewed
because
of
the
way
we
deal
with
credit
cards.
Credit
cards
all
fall
into
a
line,
99
550
and
the
auditor's
budget,
and
then
they
are
farmed
out
to
the
respective
departments.
So
we
we
are
tracking
the
105
000
that
was
budgeted
to
the
auditor's
office.
D
We
won't
be
able
to
stay
within
that.
That
is
just
not
going
to
happen.
It
didn't
happen
last
year
I
just
I
don't
see
any
way.
We
can
do
that,
just
based
on
labor
alone,
but
we're
going
to
do
the
best.
We
can
to
make
sure
that
there's
not
a
huge
increase
over
that
105
and
then
hopefully,
next
year
we
can
look
at
some
of
the
data
and
allow
it
to
speak
to
us
as
it
relates
to
some
of
this
stuff.
D
And
then
you
see
once
once
we
adjust
like
the
24.3.
Excuse
me
that
was
the
budget
24.3
million
24.7
when
we
adjust
the
numbers,
you'll
kind
of
see
that
a
lot
of
people
then,
like
my
quarter,
three
report
will
probably
look
much
better
because
I
would
assume
that
the
any
any
contingencies
anything
that
has
to
do
with
budgetary
adjustments
etc
will
be
reflected
at
that
point
and
then
this
slide
will
look
much
different.
So
again,
these
are
mainly
projections.
D
You
know
kind
of
scientific
methods
as
it
were
when
we
calculate
this
stuff-
and
I
say
the
auditor's
office
so
that
you
can
have
confidence
in
the
data
that
comes
with
these
reports.
So
are
there
any
questions
at
all
that
I
can
entertain.
A
E
Assert
mr
victory,
I
believe
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Yes,
what
what
categories
are?
Are
the
increase
in
revenue?
D
Okay,
so
the
the
increases
in
revenue-
if
you
look
so
just
to
walk
through
that
slide,
the
some
of
the
lines
that
fall
under
administration,
that
data
has
like
a
40
percent
increase
the
assessment
office,
23.45
increase
in
revenue
and
I'll
just
skip
through
a
few
of
them
corrections.
D
There's
a
30.9
percent
increase
in
revenue,
the
circuit
clerk
3.2.
D
D
E
So
is
it
basically
fees
and
and
corrections?
Basically,
yes,.
A
Anybody
else
I
had
a
question
jake.
How
do
you
treat
in
your
projections?
How
do
you
treat
probably
our
two
biggest
expense
union
contracts
and
and
health
insurance?
Just
just
historically
go
by
a
percentage?
That's
been
increased
in
the
past.
D
Yes-
and
you
know-
and
I
just
assume
it's
going
to
increase
by
the
a
minimum
by
the
cpi
as
well.
F
Yeah
jake,
I
didn't
hear
you
mentioned
that
this
is
on
a
cash
basis,
so
we're
susceptible
in
the
quarterly
reports
of
the
timing
of
state
payments
and
outside
payments.
So
year
to
year,
quarterly
reports
can
look
different
because
it's
strictly
a
timing
issue.
F
So
that's
when
you
talk
about
the
assessor
office,
if
you're
talking
about
grant
and
aid
payments
last
year,
apparently
we
didn't
get
them
before
may
31st
this
year
we
did
so.
The
board
needs
to
understand
on
the
cash
basis
of
the
quarterly
that
it's
really
a
timing
issue.
When
you
go
projecting
out,
then
you
take
everything
and
plug
it
all
in
so
that
can
skew
year
to
year,
when
timing
of
things
happen
and
that's
the
same
in
the
expense
as
well
when
with
the
lack
of
help
in
getting
it
in
the
system.
F
And
when
that
timing
happens,
that's
just
a
workflow
issue
and
sometimes
that
may
skew
it
from
year
to
year
and
for
no
other
reason
just
from
a
workflow
issue
and
when
it,
when
everything
hits
the
system,
so
just
want
to
make
sure
we
are
clear
for
cash
basis
and
what's
in
the
system
and
what
the
system
is
spitting
out
at
a
certain
period
of
time.
D
D
But
basically,
what
has
to
happen
that
chairman
wheeler
and
I
had
discussed
in
the
past-
is
we
haven't
been
in
compliance
with
posting
that
report,
which
what
we're
supposed
to
do
is
post
the
total
compensation-
and
that
includes
you
know,
imrf,
that
includes
health
care,
etc,
and
it
has
to
be
names
of
individuals
who
are
paid.
D
It
cannot
be
titles
or
job
descriptions,
but
in
conversations
we
have
decided
that
it's
best
to
for
safety
reasons,
remove
job
descriptions
and
departments
put
the
name
so
that
we're
in
compliance
and
then
just
alphabetize
them,
and
then
we're
combining
a
couple
of
sections
so
that
people
can't,
if
they've,
got
any
level
of
analytical
ability.
D
They
can't
kind
of
piece
it
together
and
find
out
who
people
are,
and
you
know
their
families
and
things
like
that,
so
there
will
be
more
to
follow
on
that.
We
are
working
through
those
discrepancies
and
hopefully,
we'll
see
we'll
see
that
report
going
up.
We
did
a
little
sample
size,
every
county
that
has
an
auditor
well
14
of
the
14
that
we
looked
at
all
all
have
this
report
in
some
form
or
fashion,
and
we
did
about
12
counties
that
do
not
have
auditors.
D
They
have
that
report.
The
other
requirement
is
that
you
have
steps
as
to
how
people
can
access
this
information.
What
people
are
paid,
as
we
all
know,
is
public
information,
there's
public
dollars
that
go
to
our
compensation,
and
so,
in
order
to
be
in
compliance,
we
we're
going
to
post
this
information
to
the
auditor's
website
once
we're
confident
that
it
is
precise,
it's
accurate
and
that
what
we
reflect
here
is
what
is
reflected
in
reality.
So
there'll
be
more
to
follow
on
that.
I
do.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
If
there's
no
other
questions.
G
Looks
like
lynn
has
provided
the
staffing
report
for
everybody
to
look
over.
I
I'm
not
prepared
to
answer
any
questions
about
that
at
this
time.
Yeah
so
turn
his
mic
off,
but
yeah.
If
you
have
any
shoot,
email
or
shoot
an
email
to
lynn
hush.
I
believe
she's
off
today
with
some
take
care,
some
personal
business,
so
yeah
with
that
being
said.
Moving
on
to
the
cyber
insurance
policy,
this
is
something
we've
talked
about
in
the
past.
G
Currently,
our
health
department
has
one
of
these
they're
required
to.
I
believe,
because
of
some
grants
that
they
they
they
get
and
the
subject
came
up,
as
we
were
looking
through
this
to
procure
cyber
insurance
with
the
hacks
that
have
gone
on
the
the
attempted
ransomware
that
we
had
here,
the
the
semi-success
of
that,
even
though
they
didn't,
we
didn't
necessarily
play
ball.
We
didn't
have
to
we
had
backups,
but
the
thought
process
is
on
on.
G
My
part
is:
is
that
since
the
health
department
has
to
do
it
anyway,
why
not
look
at
the
cost
of
an
umbrella
policy
for
all
of
the
county
and
then
as
we
go
forward,
there
could
be
one
policy
rather
than
both
of
us
getting
two
and
we
can
drive
down
the
cost.
G
If
you
have
one
situation
where
some
social
or
some
say
inmate
health
information
gets
out
or
something
like
that,
that's
that's
a
lot
of
zeros
at
the
end
of
that
lawsuit,
so
we
wanted
to
be
able
to
at
least
make
sure
that
we're
protected,
especially
in
this
age
of
cyber
attacks
and
so
and
they're
going
after
counties
and
municipalities,
and
things
like
that.
G
So
I
just
you
know
if
there
was
any
questions
about
that,
let
me
know,
but
you
can
look
over
the
the
document
and
george
ryan
jr
is
here
to
answer
any
and
all
questions
relating
to
this
even
down
to
the
fine
print
he's
ready
for
that.
I'm
just
pulling
your
chain,
but
the
the
the
total
premium
is
6
100
a
year,
and
I
I
guess
you
know
the
health
department
alone
was.
You
know
a
little
more
than
half
of
that.
I
believe
john.
G
Wasn't
it
that's
a
head
nod,
I
I'm
pretty
close
so
and
we
have
many
more
terminals
than
they
have
over
there.
So
it
kind
of
tells
you
how
we're
driving
down
the
cost
next
year
when
we
go
to
renewal.
Maybe
we
can
combine
this
and
we
both
spend
less
money,
so
I
was
going
to
throw
it
out
to
the
committee
we
had
talked
about
it.
We
had
a
head
nod
to
proceed
and
get
the
price,
and
so
our
our
our
limits
are
our
million
bucks
here
and
then
there
are
some.
G
G
It
would
go
into
effect
august
1st,
because
we'd
have
to
go
to
full
board
next,
so
that
would
be
the
general
gist
of
it.
E
A
C
A
Okay,
I'll
need
a
motion
to
combine
the
county
treasures
report
for
may
2017.
A
Sure,
because
there's
a
I
can
just
get
a
motion
in
a
second
okay,
okay
county
treasury
report
for
may
2017,
the
county
selectors
report
for
may
2017
and
the
monthly
resolutions
for
july
2017
motioned
by
mr
washington.
Second
by
mr
payton
and.
I
Well,
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
on
the
collector's
report
you
see,
there's
a
negative
203
thousand
dollar
balance,
and
I
wanted
to
point
that
out.
That
was
just
me
being
a
little
overzealous
pushing
money
into
the
money
market
fund,
so
that
was
cured
six
hours,
but
it
fell
at
the
end
of
the
month.
I
So
just
trying
to
get
more
interest
on
our
money,
and
I
think
I
got
a
little
ahead
of
myself.
So
so
the
collection
collection
duties
are
going
well.
Oh
sorry,
since.
A
We
got
a
motion
in
a
second.
This
will
be
a
voice
vote.
All
in
favor,
say
aye
all
right,
sec
are
opposed.
Motion
carries
go
ahead.
I'm
sorry!
Okay,.
I
I
just
want
to
talk
about
a
couple
things
money's
coming
in
we're
about.
85
million
distribution
is
going
to
be
between
the
fifth
and
the
seventh.
I
I
I
They
deposited
just
so
you
have
a
quick
briefer
on
what's
going
on,
they
deposited
the
money
on
june
14th,
but
despite
it,
despite
repeated,
attempts
from
us
never
were
able
to
get
us
a
file
until
three
days
after
the
due
date.
So
while
the
money
was
there,
there
was
no
tie
of
where
that
money
went.
They
seem
to
think
that
that's
fulfilling
their
obligation.
I
Clearly,
it's
not
if
one
of
you
deposited
money
in
the
account
then
came
to
pay
your
taxes
three
days
late
and
said,
oh
by
the
way
I
deposited
two
weeks
ago,
here's
my
bill,
you
would
be
late,
so
we
intend
to
fight
vigorously
and
get
the
money.
That's
due
this
county,
that's
a
significant
amount
of
money.
I
see
a
lot
of
people
come
to
the
office
who
can
barely
pay
their
tax
and
pay
their
one
and
a
half
percent
late
fee.
So
I
feel
very
strongly
about
this.
I
Those
people
don't
obviously
have
a
legal
obligation
to
pay
that
that's
the
escrow
agent's
responsibility,
so
I
met
with
jim's
people
a
couple
times
right
before
this
meeting
corelogic
is
seems
to
want
to
solve
this
issue
very
quickly
and
from
where
I
come
from,
they
could
solve
it
by
the
end
of
the
day
by
writing
a
check.
I
I
I
think
that's
really
that's
really
where
we're
at
the
treasures
office,
which
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
mention
the
the
amount
of
work
that
my
staff
is
putting
in
they're
incredible
and
we
couldn't
do
it
without
them,
and
I
know
that
everybody
probably
gets
started
hearing
me
say
the
idea
of
being
pennywise
and
pound
foolish.
I
I
I've
had
a
couple
phone
calls
with
hotel,
motel
operators
in
town
who
have
been
late
with
their
tax
in
the
past,
and
I've
made
it
very
clear
via
a
letter
and
phone
calls
that
there
will
be
no
more
grace
period.
I
The
taxes
are
collected
on
our
behalf,
they're
money,
that's
owed
to
us,
that's
already
been
paid
by
the
consumer
to
the
hotel
and
that
from
this
point
forward,
if
you're
late,
you
will
be
fined
the
statutory
amount
which
is
500
for
the
first
30
days,
1500
plus
the
500
for
30
days
after
and
so
forth,
and
so
on.
I
think
I
made
my
point
clear,
we'll
see
if
it
sunk
in
when
the
tax
returns
start
coming
in
on
a
monthly
basis.
A
I
just
had
one
nick.
I
thought
there
would
be
more
problems
with
congestion
downstairs,
paying
the
taxes
did
more
people.
Can
you
tell
if
more
people
went
through
their
financial
institutions
or
not.
I
I
think
I
I
don't
know
mike
exactly
because
I
haven't
looked
year
over
year.
I
I
look
at
what
financial
institutions
have
done
for
us
and
I
got
to
be
honest
with
you.
It's
just
incredible.
Oh
yeah.
I
I
I
stood
at
the
assessors
counter,
which
they
were
grateful
enough
to.
Let
me
have
some
space
and
hand,
wrote
receipts
for
checks,
and
so
what
would
happen
is
you'd
have
100
people
on
the
line.
25
people
would
have
checked
because
it's
heavily
weighted
toward
cash
at
the
end,
but
you
were
able
to
take
those
people
out
online
and
in
five
minutes
process.
25
people
just
check
the
tax
bill
check
the
check
sign
the
receipt
here
you
go
and
then
go
ahead
and
put
him
in
the
system
later,
but
it
it
helped
the
congestion
yeah.
I
I
think
it's,
it's
probably
a
combination
of
things.
I
I
think
we've
tried
to
tell
people
hey
if
you
can
go
to
a
drive-through
and
put
your
bill
in
a
drive-through.
It's
so
much
easier,
but
you
know
we
have
large
guys
that
come
in
that
have
25
parcels
and
it's
a
little
more
difficult
but
yeah
it.
I
I
I
guess
I'm
I'm
pleased
at
is
efficient
as
it
did
run
downstairs
and
you
know
hats
off
to
bruce
and
eric
for
you
know,
tolerating
the
disturbance,
but
I
think
it
was
a
lot
better
than
I
had
anticipated.
It
would
be
so
the
people
seem
to
really
like
the
idea
that
everything's
together,
because
specifically,
if
you're
talking
to
a
you're
talking
to
an
elderly
taxpayer
and
you're
looking
at
their
bill-
and
you
see
that
they
don't
have
a
they're
telling
you
their
bills-
are
high
and
you're
looking
at
their
bill.
I
A
I
If
they're
entitled
to
it,
you
know
that's
that's
where
you
want
them
to
go,
and-
and
so
it
was
quick
and
eric's
staff
was
very
efficient
in
terms
of
dealing
with
those
people,
and
we
did
have
a
few
issues
online,
but
I
mean
nothing
really
to
speak
of
we're
still
getting
collections
in.
I
I
But
I
did
push
it
off
to
a
money
market
account
that
we
were
able
to
get
the
whopping
.75
interest,
but
if
you
can
put
50
million
in
there
and
leave
it
for
30
days
or
near
that,
you
know
it's
money
we
didn't
have
and
I'll
continue
to.
I
have
some
banks
coming
in
this
week
to
talk
about
trying
to
get
nearer
to
one
percent.
I
There
is
no
grace
period
for
seniors
and
here's
my
plan,
there's
no
grace
period
for
seniors,
because
there's
no
statutory
grace
period
for
seniors
mark
and
I
believe,
nick
the
previous
administration
administrations
both
allowed
a
weak
grace
period
for
seniors.
I
don't
find
any
indication
in
the
statute
that
that's
legal.
I
I
think,
though
there
is
a
problem
always
disseminating
information.
We
saw
that
with
putting
the
new
office
on
the
radio
in
the
newspaper,
social
media.
Still
people
don't
get
that
information,
so
I
will
treat
those
senior
extensions
on
a
case-by-case
basis
this
year,
because
I
don't
want
to
penalize
anybody
who
didn't
get
the
message.
I
put
it
very
clearly
on
the
bill
that
said
it's
the
due
date
for
everyone.
A
H
I
Privacy
issue
really
specifically
deals
with
bruce
clark's
vital
records
department.
That's
really
the
private.
I
mean
the
tax
it's
nice
to
have
some
privacy
when
you're
paying
your
taxes,
but
clearly
taxes
aren't
private,
but
bruce's
area
is
of
there's
a
privacy
concern
at
the
vital
records
counter
and
bruce,
and
I
and
dan
stayed
in
contact
during
that
time,
and
there
was
a
couple
of
times
that
we
modified
some
some
issues
to
deal
with.
What
we
thought
was
better.
I
I
They
did
they
did
it's
tight.
It's
tight
and
the
girls
remind
me
often
that
it's
tight
in
there,
but
we're
trying
to
do
the
best
with
what
we
have
and
you
dropping
off
candy
is
helpful,
so
keep
dropping
the
candy.
B
C
A
F
F
Excuse
me
to
remind
me:
we
had
a
hiccup
this
month
with
sales
tax
that
we
haven't
seen
in
four
or
five
months
here,
six
months,
we'll
keep
an
eye
on.
Hopefully
that's
a
one
month
issue
and
not
something
new,
so
something
I
wanted
to
make
sure.
The
committee
was
aware
of
on
the
page
behind
the
front
page
where
it
breaks
it
down
into
the
two
types
of
tax
that
we
would
receive.
F
It
was
in
the
county-wide
portion,
not
in
the
county
sales
tax
area
that
actually
went
up,
so
something
we'll
keep
an
eye
on,
but
I
wanted
to
bring
it
to
your
attention
because
it
was
kind
of
broke
trend
of
what
we've
been
seeing
anyway.
J
F
There's
no
questions
on
the
regular
tax
reports.
Revenue
items
that
we
look
at
the
very
last
page
is
an
update
cash
flow
analysis
through
yesterday.
F
So
it
takes
in
account
at
least
getting
through
july.
The
next
step
we'll
take
out
we'll
go
through
the
rest
of
the
year
with
the
july
distribution,
but
also
the
september
distribution
and
the
payoff
of
the
taws
and
the
timing
of
our
bond
payments
and
things
toward
the
end
of
the
year.
But
so
this
is
an
update.
F
You
can
see
because
of
the
early
distribution
of
three
million,
that
we
did
pay
down
a
considerable
amount
of
our
accounts
payable
here
recently.
So
the
amount
of
calls
and
emails
and
communications
from
our
vendors
should
start
to
slow
down
for
everyone
and
ourselves
included.
F
But
we
still
have
you
know
some
out
there
that
we're
working
on
and
for
july,
we'll
have
a
taw
payment
as
well
as
the
highway,
the
short-term
highway
borrowing
repayment
to
work
on
and
then
we'll
continue
to
pay
off
as
many
claims
as
we
can,
as
well
as
balance
in
the
cash
you
know
through
july
august,
as
we
get
into
september
with
the
other
distributions.
So
just
want
to
give
you
an
update,
we'll
we'll
move
that
forward
and
here
for
next
month.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Any
significant
change
in
the
receivables
from
the
state.
F
Yes,
I
was
just
getting
ready
to
say
we
did
receive
two
months
of
grant,
nade
probation
grant
made.
It
was
august,
it's
in
september.
I
believe
that
was
early
june.
F
We
still
have
yeah,
I
mean
there's
still
quite
a
few
months
out.
Obviously
it
seems
like
income
tax
is
hovering
and
staying
about
two
months
out
the
way
they're
doing
it
right
now
it
hasn't
expanded
to
three
or
four.
You
know
more
so
we'll
see
on
the
granade.
So
you
know
as
far
as
timing,
we
did
get
two
months.
I
believe
it
was
early
june
when
that
showed
up.
F
Yeah,
I
just
I
just
we
just
said
both
the
financial
reports
on
cash
flow.
So,
if,
if
I
may
preface
before
we
get
into
the
to
the
budget
amendment,
I
know
a
lot
of
the
board
members
and
from
my
understanding,
department
heads
did
look
at
you
know
the
projections
and
things
I
just
want
to
let
the
board
members
know
you
know
that
each
and
every
revenue
line
and
the
general
fund
is
taken
into
account
with
the
accruals.
F
So
when
you
do
and
take
the
accruals
and
it
takes
into
account
the
total
responsibility
for
like
grant
and
aid
for
example,
and
takes
out
when
the
timing
of
those
payments
actually
hit
so
with
what
we've
gone
through
in
the
last
five
or
six
years
and
losing
eight
million
dollars,
you
know
you
pretty
much
have
to
take
the
the
current
information
and
plug
it
in
and,
unfortunately,
we'd
love
to
get
back
to
the
point
where
normal
trend
and
things
like
cpi
actually
will
begin
to
work
for
us.
F
But
with
what
we've
been
through
right
now,
taking
it
right
here
right
now,
what
we
know
you
can
see
sales
tax,
for
example.
You
think
you're
on
a
trend
and
then
it
changes
on
you
and
that's
what
we've
been
through
the
last
five
or
six
years.
So
that's
how
that's
what's
built
into
this
and
then
each
and
every
department
head
had
a
chance
to
input
and
I'm
pretty
sure
that
everybody
did
input
on
their
projections.
They
received
their
projections.
F
They
had
a
chance
to
change
them,
provide
input
as
well,
so
that
we
gathered
the
best
information
we
could
for
the
projection
for
the
fiscal
year
end
and
plugged
everything
in
on
an
accrual
basis
to
reflect
in
these
reports,
and
then
the
the
budget
amendment
is
built
worked
with
chairman
wheeler
and
vice
chair
lear,
on
building
the
amendment
as
as
they
communicated
out
to
everyone
as
well.
F
So
I
just
wanted
to
preface
what
was
done
and
and
what's
built
into
the
information
that
you
have
before
you
and
then
andy.
Do
you
want
to
do
the
walk
through
the
presentation,
then
sure.
G
For
that
and
all
the
hard
work
that
it's
taken
well,
roughly
three
or
four
months
to
get
to
this
point
of
being
able
to
accurately
present
the
the
budget
amendments
and
then
the
basis
for
a
three-year
financial
plan,
the
three-year
financial
plan
portion,
I
guess
a
little
bit
of
history.
Let
me
before
I
start
when
we
we
did
a
budget.
Last
year
we
prepared
the
budget
because
it
was
the
actual
worst
case
scenario.
We
were
historically
low
revenue
numbers
and
we
had
to
budget
for
what
we
saw
as
it
was
happening.
G
G
You
know
of
of
a
longer
period
of
time
to
be
able
to
predict
revenues
expenses
as
they
stand
now
and
then
be
able
to
stretch
that
out
over
three
and
four
years,
based
on
in
2020,
we
no
longer
have
access
to
outside
capital.
G
That's
something
this
committee
is
very
aware
of
that
outside
infusion
of
cash
in
the
form
of
taws
are
what
keeps
us
afloat
between
tax
cycles,
so
we
may
have
a
budget
number,
but
then
there's
also
a
cash
flow
issue,
so
there
are
two
things
that
sometimes
compete
with
each
other.
If
you
will
so
when
we
determine
the
the
type
of
budget
amendments
that
we
needed
to
make
this
year,
it
was
based
on
having
enough
money
in
2020
to
survive,
unable
to
get
through
without
that
extra
infusion
of
cash.
G
Because,
frankly,
if
we
didn't
have
the
the
marshals
in
the
dhs
program,
we
wouldn't
have
the
cash
flow
to
get
through
those
time
periods,
that
that
is
a
reality
of
the
situation
and
we
always
have
to
remember.
We
have
to
take
care
of
our
own
prisoners
as
well,
so
that
that's
all
figured
into
this
whole.
You
know
mechanism
and
we're
80,
roughly
80
of
revenue
expense
come
out
of
those
departments.
G
Typically,
you
also
have
to
keep
in
mind
that
there
usually
is
no
revenue
that
come
out
comes
out
of
that
department.
So
while
while
we
may
be
dealing
with
a
bad
situation
of
changes
in
sales,
tax
and
changes
of
the
the
the
inmate
counts
over
the
past
few
years
as
you'll
see
here
in
the
financial
sense
that
provides
the
light
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel.
So
with
that
being
said,
I'll
start
to
move
into
this
a
little
bit
I'll
just
go
off
of
the
powerpoint.
G
So
when
you
take
a
look
at
the
general
fund
summary,
this
is
like
a
little
bit
of
of
you
know
the
overview
of
of
where
we've
been
since
12.
Through
now
we
we
we've
experienced
it
in,
I
guess,
emotional
years
off
our
life,
because
it's
been
very
stressful
for
everybody
involved.
It
was
a
free
fall
and
we
never
knew
where
the
bottom
was
gonna
end
and
we
we
thought
we
might
have
hit
the
bottom
and
we
pretty
much
have
what
you
know
the
aberration
and
sales
tax
this
month.
G
We
hope
is
just
a
blip
and
we
go
back
to
what
we
think
the
the
new
normal
on
that
will
be.
But
if
you
look
at
the
budget
that
we
adopted
versus
what
we're
going
to
propose
here,
we
have
to
account
for
the
new
revenues
that
we're
seeing
substantial
and
the
new
expenses,
because
we
all
know
nothing
is
free.
G
So
we
we,
it
took
us
a
little
while
to
get
to
this
point,
because
we
wanted
to
be
as
accurate
as
we
possibly
could.
So
that's
like
a
brief
overview
and
then
the
fund
balance
at
the
bottom
is
something
that
we're
going
to
try
to
carry
through.
So
we're
able
to
keep
an
eye
on
that
fund
balance
is
I'll,
show
in
a
minute
and
explain
more
of
and
mr
lee.
It
spoke
to
that.
It's
the
combination
of
our
three
funds
that
needs
to
be
around
zero.
For
us
to
have
access
to
outside
capital.
G
We
will
become
credit
worthy
if
you
will,
if
those
are
at
or
right
around
zero.
So
our
credit
rating
bond
rating,
if
you
will
that's
dependent
on
those
balances
and
and
they
also
rate
those
after
your
year
end.
So
you
you
won't.
If
we
get
it
get
to
that
point
in
18,
we
really
won't
be
able
to
see
that
as
a
benefit
until
19..
G
I
hope
that
makes
sense
the
way
I
put
that
so
so
if
this
is
basically
the
the
reason
that
we're
here
to
do
this,
and
why
we're
able
to
do
a
lot
of
these
things,
I
just
want
to
give
you
a
snapshot.
G
We
budgeted
5.27
million
for
corrections,
revenue
and
the
current
trend
is
based
on
the
kind
of
a
steady
trend
is
8.4
and
it
may
be
upwards
of
that
with
no
guarantees
ever
on
anything.
But
this
is
exactly
what
we're
looking
at
as
far
as
our
projections
throughout
the
the
rest
of
the
year.
So
we
have
to
account
for
that
in
this
budget,
because
it
is
providing
us
to
be
able
to
keep
what
we
have
and
then
be
able
to
fill
the
massive
hole
that
we
have
on
the
general
fund
side.
G
We
have
that
well
responsibility
and
mandate
to
to
pay
them
back
now,
we'll
see
that
some
of
those
numbers
can
can
fluctuate
a
little
bit,
but
they
have
definite
needs
and
I've
spoken
with
with
mark
rogers
about
you
know.
What
do
we
have
to
do
and
what's
your
timeline,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
leaving
him
short
at
any
point.
We
also
have
the
cash
situation
that
we
have
to
deal
with
between
the
tax
cycles.
G
I
do
want
to
back
up
one
step
here.
When
we
look
at
2015,
we
were
at
a
total
fund
balance
of
4.5
that
last
line
in
yellow
between
2015
and
16.
We
actually
got
our
pension
fund
and
our
tort
fund
out
from
being
underwater.
So
that's
why
you'll
see
a
total
negative
fund
balance
of
4.0
between
all
three,
because
we
made
substantial
progress
there
and
that
will
continue
going
forward
because,
again,
all
three
add
up
to
the
to
the
the
magic
number
that
we
need
so
I'll
move
forward.
G
Again
now,
when
you
look
at
17
you're,
looking
at
at
the
end
of
17,
I'm
starting
with
a
premise
that
we
have
to
have
1.2
million
dollars
back
to
fill
in
the
hole
every
single
year,
that
that
is
not
a
nice
to
have
that's
an
absolute
must-have
in
order
for
us
to
make
this
work,
and
so
that
I'm
going
to
be
very-
and
I
think
the
committee
should
be
very
inflexible
on
on
that
number-
we
have
to
have
it
it's
not
like,
oh
well.
G
We
can
just
push
this
out
until
2030
that
that's
not
even
possible
because
we
won't
have
the
cash
flow
to
get
there.
It
will
require
austerity.
Like
greece,
I
mean
it
will
be
in
order
for
us
to
function
with
the
type
of
cash
flow,
without
doing
what
we're
doing
so.
When
I,
when
I
say
this,
it's
not
just
a
a
statement.
It's
an
actual
has
to
happen.
See
tort
fund
starts
to
gain
water
pension
fund.
G
So
I
I
will
draw
attention
to
first
of
all
this
number
in
2019
if
things
work
out
to
where
they
possibly
could,
because
again
we
have
some
things
to
work
through
as
far
as
our
elections
allocations
and
things
like
that,
we
possibly
could
be
above
that
mark
at
the
end
of
2019
so
eligible
for
taws
in
2020..
G
So
this
part
of
a
three-year
projection,
we're
going
to
kind
of
work
on
over
the
next
month
and
I'll
come
back
and
report
on
that,
because
there's
some
legalities
involved
that
we
have
to
really
vet
as
far
as
the
the
what
we're
talking
about
with
elections
and
that
access
to
that
capital,
but
the
last
line
on
there,
hopefully
at
the
end
of
2020,
if
everything
lines
up
we'll
be
able
to
only
owe
highway
400
000,
which
allows
them
to
to
keep
up
on
their
projects.
G
So
I-
and
that
is
again
something
that
we
absolutely
have
to
do
so
moving
forward.
I
mean
you
can
kind
of
pick
through
that
as
much
as
you
like,
but
the
fund
balances
will
continue
to
climb
up
in
all
three
out
of
the
hole.
I
am
hoping
by
the
end
of
18
that
that
negative
395,
potentially
if
we
get
more
revenue
and
costs,
are
flat,
we
may
be
able
to
go
out
for
taws
sooner
than
that.
G
G
If
we
spend
it,
this
just
pushes
that
out
even
further
and
folks,
we
can't
push
it
out
past
2020.,
we
don't
even
know
if
you
know
dhs
program
is
going
to
be
here
tomorrow,
let
alone,
if
there's
a
change
in
the
white
house,
so
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
we
move
on
this
while
we
can
so
I'm
just
putting
that
out
there
so
again
I'll
just
this
is
more
like
for
your
negotiation
of
the
way
we're
presenting
this
pay
attention
to
the
fy
17
budget
column
and
then
also
the
fy
17
budget.
G
G
Okay
moving
forward
the
first
thing
to
draw
attention
to
is
our
interfund
debt
reduction,
that's
baked
into
the
budget
where
our
debt
reduction
is
in
the
budget
from
now
for
the
foreseeable
future,
it's
not
going
to
exist
outside
of
that,
so
the
500
000
is
still
there.
Okay,
I
just
want
to
draw
attention.
That's
not
necessarily
an
amendment.
G
The
next
thing
is
is
as
as
it
stands
right
now,
our
elections
budget
looks
like
it's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
lower.
We
didn't
spend
as
much
that
may
change
later
if
the
state
decides
not
to
send
the
grant
that
was
associated
with
this.
So
right
now,
we're
going
to
assume
like
everything
is
the
way
that
it
is,
and
we
will
get
that
grant.
If
that
doesn't,
we
will
account
for
that
in
another
way
later.
G
So,
let's
see
here
the
planning
non-grant
line
item
we
projected
out
at
about
272,
so
we're
going
to
adjust
that
as
well.
Try
to
get
you
know
a
budget,
isn't
you
know
necessarily
perfection,
but
we
definitely
want
to
look
at
what?
What
do
we
really
think
is
going
on
something
we
weren't
able
to
do
at
the
beginning
of
the
budget
year
this
year
building
a
grounds
we
know
that
our
costs
are
up
there.
G
So
that's
we're
projecting
around
7
18,
and
I
think
they
will
even
be
up
more
than
that
after
some
recent
discussions
with
ryan,
because
we,
I
think
we
just
lost
around
a
30
thousand
dollar
air
unit,
which
is
just
lovely
to
wake
up
to
in
the
morning.
So
it's
things
like
that
that
are
when
people
say
you
know.
Why
were
you
over
budget?
Well,
you
can't
predict
these
things,
especially
when
you're
limping
along
and
not
buying
new
and
preventative
maintenance
is
chasing
your
tail.
G
Every
day
I
mean
it's,
it's
it's
a
real
issue
for
us,
and
those
cost
over
the
years,
and
mr
trip
was
here,
would
tell
you
that,
if
you're
not
able
to
do
pm
a
lot
of
this
equipment,
these
costs
will
continue
to
go
up
and,
and
unfortunately
it's
it's
the
situation
we
find
ourselves
in
so
we'll
we'll
be
revisiting
building
a
grounds
more.
Throughout
the
year
health
insurance,
the
our
budget
number
was
taken
before
people
made
plan
choices.
G
That's
where
we
believe
that
extra
hundred
thousand
dollars
comes
in
so
we're
adjusting
there
as
well.
I'm
gonna
drill
down
into
that
a
little
bit
deeper
and
maybe
we
might
be
able
to
see
some
savings
on
with
hra
usage
and
things
like
that
throughout
the
year.
So
this
is
something
we
haven't
done
on
a
on
a
visible
format.
We've
always
tried
to
account
for
it
the
estimated
expense,
variance
things
like
the
300
or
excuse
me,
thirty
thousand
dollars.
G
Oh
geez,
thirty
thousand
dollar
error
handling
unit
things
like
that
that
pop
up,
we,
it
always
happens,
but
what
I
can't
have
is
at
the
end
of
the
year
we
project
that
we're
going
to
have
a
1.2
million
dollars
to
the
good
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
we
have
300
000
of
bills,
show
up
which
always
happens,
and
it's
not
through
overspending.
G
It's
just
things
happen,
so
we
put
it
into
the
budget
as
an
amendment
item,
so
we
can
account
for
that
at
the
end
of
the
year,
because
it
is
a
a
known
unknown
if
you
will,
if
that
makes
any
sense,
but
again
contingency
is
still
in
there.
So
we're
again
we're
baking.
G
This
one
point:
you
know
three
as
it
stands
right
now
into
the
budget,
even
though
we
know
the
two,
the
three
is
gonna
go
away
central
services
I'll
draw
attention
to,
even
though
we're
running
a
little
hot
on
that
that
falls
under
the
discretionary
spending.
G
I
didn't
want
to
adjust
that
and
talk
with
a
lot
of
the
board
members.
We
don't
want
to
encourage
to
spend
more
on
discretionary
stuff,
even
though
it
may
be
a
little
bit
over,
hopefully
it'll
be
just
a
little
and
we'll
capture
that
in
the
300
000
on
that
side
of
things,
so
moving
forward
capital
development.
This
you
may
remember,
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
revolving
loan
fund.
In
a
minute
we
had
somebody
we
loaned
money
to
they
paid
it
back.
G
That
was,
I
believe,
74
000,
I
believe,
was
the
number
roughly.
I
can't
remember
exactly,
but
we
had
immediate
need
for
that.
When
card
readers
went
down
out
of
the
jail
we
lost
the
battery
backups.
We
just
didn't
want
the
cells
opening
up,
so
we
had
to
buy
all
those
new
battery
backups.
We
authorized
that
spending
in
that
area,
so
we
moved
that
over
into
capital
development
and
then
some
of
the
other
move
related
things
that
that
we
we
have
in
there
as
well.
G
So
we
had
to
up
that,
as
is
more
of
a
reasonable
prediction
of
where
it's
going
to
end
up
alrighty
and
then
the
state's
attorney's
office.
We
were
never
able
to
meet
with
the
previous
state's
attorney.
G
We
had
to
come
up
with
a
budget
number
that
fit
under
that
that
worst
case
scenario
that
we
were
dealing
with
when
we
created
the
budget,
and
so
we
thought
it
was
fair
to
at
least
give
the
state's
attorney
what
the
the
previous
states
attorney
had
in
2016,
and
that
looks
like
it's
going
to
fit
within
what
they've
got
going
there
as
well.
G
So
moving
on
the
public
defender,
we
upped
the
public
defender
because
we
are
holding
arraignments
out
at
the
jail
on
the
weekends,
and
that
is
a
cost
to
have
that
public
defender
present
there
was
six
thousand
dollars
that
was
approved.
I
believe
it
was
approved
by
finance
as
well.
It
might
have
just
went
to
criminal
justice
and
they
approved
it,
but
I
think
finance
did
approve
it
as
well.
Maybe
not
well,
they
are
here
hopefully
so
we
we
need
to
account
for
that,
because
it
just
has
to
happen.
G
G
Now
we
get
into
the
sheriff's
department,
looking
at
our
budget,
that
2.3
would
have
meant,
I
don't
know
between
15
and
20
patrolmen
gone,
and
that
included
the
people
that
were
at
enbridge
that
were
working.
Those
details
where
the
the
revenue
kind
of
washed
out
what
the
the
pay
was.
G
G
G
So
this
all
works
with
the
revenue
level
as
it
currently
is,
and
with
the
expenses
the
way
that
they're
listed
here
on
these
amendments,
and
so
we've
we've
talked
with
in
small
groups
of
board
members,
and
we
believe
me
at
the
end
of
this
questions
will
run
through
it
in
detail.
If
you
like,
and
then
the
corner,
we
know
because
of
frankly,
the
state
of
emergency
we
have
on
the
opioid
deaths
in
this
county.
G
I
believe
we're
second,
as
far
as
in
the
state
might
even
be
second
or
third
as
far
as
deaths
per
capita
for
people
odin
they're,
just
not
it's
not
stopping,
and
we
have
to
account
for
that
cost,
because
those
autopsies
are
very
expensive
and
we
have
to.
We
have
to
be
able
to
try
to
find
out
where
the
suppliers
are
and
who's
supplying
it
and
their
the
chemical
signature.
G
If
you
will
of
that
the
different
opiates
that
they're
consuming,
so
this
just
accounts
for
where
it's
at
right
now,
I
expect
that
to
be
higher
too.
Unfortunately,
that's
just
it's
awful.
So
again,
that's
that's
all
the
amendments,
so
we
are
going
from
you
know.
You
know
the
expenditures
and
the
revenues
will
be
pretty
close
in
line,
but
again,
if
that
300
000
is
going
away,
I
need
to
I
need
another
200
000
in
there
to
get
the
1.2
every
year.
G
So
that's
why
you
will
see
the
difference
is
not
between
budget
and
and
amendment
it's
between
expense
and
revenue.
We
have
to
have
1.2
every
year,
so
you
will
see
this
as
we
go
forward
in
future
budget
years.
So
let
me
see
what
we
have
there
so
I'll
take
a
pause
right
now.
Is
there
any
questions
about
any
of
those
line
items?
I
know
we've
talked
about
them
before,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we
address
anything
up
front.
G
Okay,
please
stop
me
if
you
do
so
again.
This
is
more
like
the
summary
you
know,
looking
back
15,
16,
17
and
then
there's
our
draft
and
here's
where
we're
ending
up
so
the
big
thing
is:
is
look
at
that
fund
balance
at
the
end
of
this
budget
year
of
that
3.6,
that's
general
fund.
G
Okay.
We
have
to
consider
that
the
other
two
funds
are
going
to
be
getting
further
above
water
as
well,
so
we'll
be
able
to
be
considerably
improving
our
position,
which
is
essential
so
again,
remember
we
have
a
budget
and
then
we
have
a
cash
flow,
and
then
we
have
the
debt
between
the
three,
the
three
different:
the
funds
torque
pension
in
general.
G
E
G
It's
the
levy.
The
levy
is
set
as
such,
so
we
could.
We
could
shift
the
levy
around,
but
the
the
end
result
would
be
the
same
because
under
tax
cap
tax
caps,
you
have
to
forgive
me
if
I'm
a
little
bit
off
on
this,
because
you
know
just
learning
about
all
these,
but
it's
the
total
amount
between
all
three
is
that
we're
capped
outside
of
lawsuit
judgments
and
things
like
that.
So
if
we
we
shifted
it
around
and
pushed
it
to
the
general
fund,
our
total
number
really
wouldn't
change.
That
makes
sense.
Okay,.
G
And
hopefully
that
continues
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
work
cop
here
coming
up
as
well
to
see
if
we
can
save
some
money
in
that
area
and
then
we'll
come
back
to
this
committee
in
the
future
that
renews
on
jan
1,
but
we
have
to
take
a
look
at
that
stuff,
a
little
bit
early,
there's
other
requirements
to
do
so
so
anyway
I'll
move
on.
Then
this
is
just
like
that
summary.
We
talked
about.
G
We
there's
a
previous
slide
for
mr
lee
that
had
expense
and
revenue.
This
is
something
new
that
I
asked
steve
to
produce
because
it's
somewhat
unfair
to
departments
that
don't
generate
revenue,
but
you
still
want
to
see
those
two
lines
together
and
we
have
our
expense,
expense
and
revenue
for
each
one.
You
know
like
if
you
look
at
administration.
The
reason
that's
up
is
because
we're
getting
increased
tax
revenue.
Frankly
things
we
didn't
expect,
I
believe
the
use
tax
and
a
couple
of
them
were
just
like.
Well,
hey
appreciate
it.
G
You
know,
because
so
much
is
bad
news
along
those
lines.
I
wish
they'd
send
us
the
money
they
owe
us,
but
I'm
sure
some
of
our
debtors
feel
the
same
way
at
times
when
we
stretch
them
out.
So
there
is
a
mirror
in
our
house,
the
revenue
and
expense.
You
know
we're
we're
trying
to
keep
that
in
line.
You
know
everybody's
doing
you
know
pretty
well,
but
the
major
the
major
thing
was
you
know
like
if
you're
looking,
you
know,
there's
a
couple
out
there
that
are
concerned.
G
We
still
don't
have
an
analysis
from
the
the
circuit
clerk.
I
shouldn't
say
still
it's
that
sounds
negative.
We
don't
have
an
analysis
from
the
circuit
clerk
because,
with
the
new
law
on
the
recog
bonds
for
people
that
can't
afford
the
the
bonds
for
lower
offenses
non-violent,
there's
no
bond
fees
associated
with
that,
so
the
revenue
side
of
the
circuit
clerk's
office
will
potentially
be
impacted.
We
just
don't
know
what
that
is.
Yet
it's
it's
fresh,
so
we'll
have
to
again
throughout
the
year.
G
We
have
to
really
account
for
that,
because,
as
far
as
percentage,
we
can
figure
it
out.
We
have,
I
think,
an
idea,
but
it's
just
so
new.
We
don't
have
that
number
yet
then
we're
looking
at
you
know
please,
on
your
own
time.
You
can
see
a
lot
of
these
revenue,
expense
numbers
I
just
kind
of
flip
through
them.
The
big
ones.
G
You
know,
obviously,
are
the
the
sheriff
and
corrections
and
we
think
we've
got
that
nailed
down
a
little
bit
as
far
as
what
we
think
we
might
see
by
the
end
of
the
year.
So
you
see
go
through
there's
a
corner
revenue
expense.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
in
terms
of
revenue
expense
by
department.
Obviously,
this
could
be
impacted
if
there
were
either
increases
or
decreases
in
our
dhs
detainees.
G
Yes,
very
much
so
you
know
we're
we're
seeing
increased
levels
as
we
go
along.
I
don't
expect
that
to
change.
If
it
does,
then
we
have
to.
We
have
to
change
with
it.
G
G
I
don't
expect
them
to
go
anywhere,
but
again
their
tomorrow's
not
promised,
but
I
will
say
that,
as
I
mentioned
before,
we're
in
this
situation,
not
because
of
lack
of
effort,
it's
because
we
saw
reduced
numbers
out
there
before
and
then
we
also
saw
the
state
decide
to
say
keep
four
million
dollars
in
tax
revenue
east
again,
so
that
that
together
put
us
in
a
hole.
This
is
the
way
out
there
are.
There
are
no
other
avenues
out,
yeah.
C
G
Extremely
negatively,
especially
where
it
excuse
me,
especially,
I
hate
I
said,
especially
as
one
of
my
pet
peeves
did
it
to
myself.
We
are
not
one
of
the
people
that
would
be
exempted
by
this
deal.
I
just
heard
about
on
the
radio
today
cook
county
and
it
seems,
like
almost
everybody
else
might
be
exempt
from
a
property
tax
freeze,
except
counties.
G
So
I
sent
a
message
to
our
legislator
saying
it's
it's
nice
to
be
special,
but
not
in
this
case
we
can't
capture
new
construction
or
the
cpi.
That
is
a
real
problem
for
us,
because
I
understand
the
thought
process.
You
know
you
want
to
limit
government
and
you
know
we're
about
as
limited
as
it
gets.
We
got
one
people
in
certain
offices,
two
three
and
others.
I
mean
it's
we're
running
as
lean
as
we
can
and
any
leaner.
It
will
absolutely
affect
the
services
that
people
get.
G
B
E
Yes,
I
made
a
kind
of
a
note
here
in
corrections
on
revenue
expense.
I
see
the
budget
for
17
is
8
million,
but
our
estimated
year-end
cost
is
10.2,
but
our
budget
amendment
is
9.2.
G
Correct
and
when,
when
we
came
up
with
the
estimated
year-end
cost
it
was
through,
as
we
had
talked
about
our
steve
mentioned
a
little
bit,
we
had
conversations
initially
with
the
department
heads
on
what
they
projected
out
for
the
rest
of
the
year.
That
was
the
initial
conversation
and
then
the
follow-up
conversation
was
well.
We
can
make
this
work
with
our
number.
G
G
The
estimate
was
really
close
to
what
the
sheriff's
estimate
was.
You
know
based
on,
and
you
know
we
everybody
wants
to
to
you,
know
to
to
leave
themselves
a
little
bit
of
room.
We
do
too
that's
what
the
300
000
is,
leave
ourselves
a
little
bit
of
room.
So
as
we
looked
at
okay,
if
we
project
this
out,
where
do
we
have
to
be,
and
where
do
we
think
we
can
be?
You
know
those
were
the
conversations
that
we
looked
at
and
that's
we
had
and
that's
what
the
commitments
we
have.
G
G
A
G
G
Have
one
statement
we
are
just
doing
the
amendments.
The
three-year
plan
is
not
part
of
this.
You
can't
bind
future
boards
and
we're
going
to
massage
that
over
the
next
month
to
make
sure
that
that
is
a
really
good
representation
of
where
we're
at
we
have
some
things
we
have
to
look
in
as
far
as
ptel
and
other
things.
So
I
just
want
to
mention
that.
A
Okay,
all
right!
The
next
item.
I
don't
know
what
this
is,
but
I
I
guess
it's
some
kind
of
recognition
steve.
Do
you
have
that.
F
Quickly,
we
have
something
for
her
diane
and
I
our
message
got
mixed
up,
but
14
years
ago,
over
14
years
ago,
I
hired
nicole
bosch
with
a
master's
degree
in
accounting
from
the
u
of
I
and
a
couple
years
later.
As
the
story
goes,
she
met
my
brother
and
that's.
F
We
ended
up
with
the
last
name,
but
we've
got
business
and
family
separate
and
she's
been
an
integral
part
of
the
finance
department
from
when
we
started
with
workforce,
gatsby
34
all
the
way
up
to
the
current
and
our
audit
and
kafir
and
the
award
such
an
integral
part
of
that,
and
so
many
things
behind
the
scenes
that
we
present
and
talk
about
and
what
she's
done
and
it's
just
an
invaluable
asset
that
she's
been.
I
gotta
back
up,
I'm
too
oh
to
see
her.
F
To
see
you,
so
we
have
a
plaque
that
diane
is
grabbing
here,
real
quick
to
for
her
to
have
for
her
14
years
of
service,
and
so
I
wanted
the
committee
to
know
and
and
show
if
anybody
was
ever
involved
with
the
workforce
as
as
board
members.
You
know
the
info
part
that
she
was
so
here's
here's
the
plaque
that
represents
14
years
of
service
to
the
county.
A
K
You
know
he
did
hire
me
out
of
college
and
appreciative
for
the
chance
to
work
here
and
the
opportunities
I've
had.
I've
worked
with
many
board
members,
many
department
heads,
you
know:
we've
been
a
real
team
in
the
finance
department
and
gone
through
a
lot
in
the
14
years
and
working
with
steve
and
chris
and
tracy
now
and
diane.
Formerly-
and
you
know
many
other
people
over
time,
and
especially
you
know
the
administrative
department,
all
the
departments,
I've
worked
with
on
your
grants.
You
know
I've
enjoyed
all
of
it.
K
A
There
is
a
reception
upstairs
correct
in
the
finance
department
right
after
this
meeting.
There's
a
little
cake
and
punch
and
reception
to
say
goodbye
to
nicole.
F
That
is
taking
over
and
training
for
nicole's
position
is
chris
kerner.
He
is
here
chris
of
your
mind.
Standing
up
chris
is
going
to
assume
nicole's
responsibility.
Chris
started
with
us
as
a
intern
from
onu
ten
years
ago,
has,
since
graduated
as
a
county
degree
and
has
been
integral
part
as
well
in
the
finance
department,
as
he
moved
from
intern
to
full-time
accounting.
We
accountant,
and
so
we
you'll
know
who
chris
is
now
a
new
face
as
well
in
here
with
us.
A
He
he
does
have
a
clause
that
he
cannot
marry
any
of
steve's
sisters.
D
L
The
ice
update
we
are
through
may,
which
is
the
halfway
point,
and
I
think
some
of
the
information
that
steve
passed
out
is
is
fairly
consistent
with
the
information
we
have
and
right
now
we
are
up.
Our
increased
revenue
is
up
1.6
million
dollars
from
where
it
was
last
year.
L
So
those
are
good
things
our
out
of
county
numbers.
Just
for
your
information,
the
number
of
u.s
marshals
inmates
that
we
have
totals
170,
that
includes
the
northern
district
of
illinois,
the
northern
district
of
indiana
and
the
central
district
of
illinois.
L
Today
our
ice
number
is
133.,
and
that
fluctuates
from
the
standpoint
of
as
the
week
progresses
we
get
up
to
around
150
160
and
then
on
friday.
L
Detainees
are
are
bussed
to
an
airport
in
gary
where
they
are
deported
and
then
the
week
starts
over
and
our
numbers
continue
to
increase
again
and
then
we
also
still
have
20
inmates
from
cook
county,
a
small
number,
and
we
have
have
the
option
now
to
kind
of
determine
what
inmates
we
take
from
cook
county,
we're
not
getting
their
problem.
Children
anymore,
we're
getting
the
ones
we
want,
and
if
we
don't
want
them,
we
send
them
back.
L
L
In
addition,
although
it's
it's
kind
of
off
topic
of
ice,
our
our
citations
and
our
civil
process
numbers
continue
to
increase,
which
I
think
is
revenue.
That
may
not
be
reflected
in
some
of
the
reports
that
you've
seen
so
those
are
all
positives,
so
questions
on
ice
or
any
of
those
any
of
those
numbers.
L
Secondly,
our
corrections
vans.
I
asked
last
month
about
corrections,
vans
and
I
will
ask
again,
as
we
have
four
09
corrections
vans,
that
right
now
have
anywhere
from
one
hundred
and
nineteen
thousand
hundred
and
thirty
nine
thousand
miles
on
them.
L
We
have
two
buses,
a
twenty
passenger
bus,
that's
an
o7
that
has
eighty
four
thousand
miles
on
it,
and
a
twenty
three
passenger
handicapped,
accessible
bus
that
has
88
000
miles
on
it.
That's
an
0.5.
Those
buses
are
still
workable.
They
they're
fine
other
than
regular
maintenance.
They
haven't.
We
haven't
seen
anything
problematic
with
them.
We
also
have
two
2011
vans.
One
is
currently
in
the
shop.
L
It's
the
one
that
broke
down
up
at
sauk
village,
on
57,
with
ice
detainees
in
it
and
that
that
van
has
145
000
miles
on
it,
and
then
we
have
another
2011
van
with
185
000
miles
on
it.
L
So
all
told
all
of
our
vans
have
a
minimum
of
119
000
miles
on
them
and,
as
you
can
as
our
transport
reports
that
we
provide
to
the
criminal
justice
committee,
our
transports
are
not
decreasing,
they
are
increasing.
So
obviously
those
are
issues
that
affect
us
from
the
standpoint
of
safety,
mainly
for
our
officers,
but
also
the
inmates
and
the
general
public
as
well
you're,
providing
an
opportunity
for
something
bad
to
happen
when
you're
sitting
disabled
on
a
road
with
a
bus
or
a
van
full
of
inmates.
L
So
I
would
ask
that
if
we
could
purchase
two
new
vans,
the
two
vans
that
we
got
approved
last
year
just
got
put
into
service.
So
those
are
two
vans
that
obviously
we
will
utilize-
probably
a
lot,
especially
to
and
from
chicago.
So
we
will
continue
to
accumulate
miles.
We
are
reimbursed
mileage
will
reimburse
the
officer's
salary
for
those
transports,
but
I
would
I
would
ask
that
we
approve
the
purchase
of
two
additional
vans.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
guess,
and
I'm
trying
to
kind
of
stick
two
things
together
here
we
were
talking
about
squads
at
one
point
as
well
that
we
were
going
to
look
at.
I
think
it
was
for
fourth
quarter
this
year,
if
I'm
not
correct,
they're.
G
Because
I
was
trying
to
figure
out,
you
know
with
the
the
actually
just
amended
the
budget,
so
it's
not
accounted
for
at
this
point
on
the
expense
side
is
there?
I
know
that
there
may
be
some
hesitation
too,
but
is
there
a
way
to
do?
Maybe
you
know
board.
G
Does
70
30
comes
out
of
seizure
to
help
just
kind
of
spread
this
out
a
little
bit,
so
we
can
get
another
van
to
help,
replace
that
I'm
trying
to
try
to
figure
out
a
way
to
work
between
the
two
to
to
get
more
in
a
shorter
amount
of
time.
Well,.
L
L
Law
enforcement
training.
Standard
standards
board
requires
deputies
to
have
a
certain
number
of
hours
of
training
every
year
and
that's
how
we
pay
for
our
training
out
of
that
money.
I
just
think
using
seizure
money
because
seizure
money
is
like
anything
else
once
you
use
it,
it's
gone
and
we'll
never
get
it
back
there.
In
all
likelihood,
based
on
the
seizure
laws
that
are
out
there,
that
they're
trying
to
pass,
we
will
never
have
another
seizure
of
a
million
six
of
which
we
got.
L
I
don't
know
four
or
five
hundred
thousand
of
which
there's
about
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
left,
because
borrowing
or
using
this
money
is
much
like
borrowing
from
another
fund.
Much
like
bossert
and
boyd
did
for
the
last
eight
years,
and
I
don't
think
we
want
to
get
into
that
habit.
But
that's
just
me.
M
J
M
L
L
L
L
Court,
that's
actually
right
so
217
for
the
month,
divided
by
about
22
work
days
is
9.86.
M
I
know
we
had
talked
in
public
safety
that
if
we
could
get
through
this
fiscal
year,
that
maybe
at
the
beginning
and
next
or
at
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year,
we
could
order
them
for
next
year's
budget
and
I'd
still
like
to
be
able
to
stick
to
that
plan.
If
we
can
make
these
other
ones
work-
and
I
know
the
miles
scare
you
the
miles
scare
me
too,
but
if
you
your
your
pm,
is
pretty
good.
M
You
know
your
periodical
maintenance,
I'm
sorry,
your
maintenance,
your
maintenance
on
your
vans
are
pretty
good,
I
mean,
and
you
guys
keep
a
good
eye
on
it,
and
sometimes
even
even
a
new
vehicle
will
break
down.
No
doubt
you
know
so
I
I
would
just
try
to
encourage
you
to
at
least
maybe
we
can
get
to
that
next
year's
budget
for
the
two
new
vans.
If,
if
we
can't
make
something
else,
work
I'm
I'm
just
for
the
you
know
what
I'm
trying
to
say
sure
for
for.
K
L
What
I
I
just
hate
would
hate
to
see
and-
and
you
know
our
squad-
cars
which
will
be
here
in
july
and
those
take
about
a
week
each
to
get
ready
so
and
then,
at
this
time
next
year,
we're
going
to
be
asking
you
for
11
more,
and
I
mean
that's
just
the
cost
of
doing
business
and
the
cost
of
doing
business
and
part
of
that
business
is
the
money
that
we
have
coming
in
for
this
program
and
and
that's
I,
my
own,
I'd
like
to
get
the
vans
as
soon
as
we
can.
A
J
A
L
J
L
A
G
I'm
the
pay
for
guy,
so
if
we
could,
we
might
be
able
to
look
over
the
next.
You
know
if
this
passes
look
over
for
the
next
month
where
the
funds
could
come
from.
I
think
it
would
probably
be
q3
I'm
estimating
when
that,
when
they
would
show
up,
potentially
you
have
to
get
them
on
order,
I'm
not
sure
how
long.
L
G
So
we
might
just
initial
thoughts
I'll
take
a
look
at
we're
going
to
talk
about
revolving
alone
in
a
little
bit.
I
think
that
initial
downstroke
on
the
lease
was
what
20
grand
for.
I
can't
remember
exactly
what
that
was.
We
have
to
look
into
what
that
initial
payment
is,
but
we
might
be
able
to
work
for
it
for
the
end
of
the
year.
G
Do
you
remember
mr
hess
yeah
yeah
that
just
that
number
sticks
in
my
head,
so
we'd
have
to
check
that
out
and
we
might
be
able
to
make
it
work
under
those
auspices
but
yeah?
I
know
it's.
Obviously
it's
not
going
to
be
the
full
amount
for
the
bands
so,
and
what
is
that?
I
think
it's
a
three
year:
three
elise,
I
think
they
come
up
with.
I.
G
A
I
don't
know
if
this
has
any
bearing
or
not,
but
I
noticed
at
the
bradley
village
board
meeting.
I
think
it
was
three
new
squad
cars
and
they
went
through
a
state
purchase
and
they
turned
around
and
went
to
court
street
board
and
to
keep
the
money
local.
They
honored
the.
A
C
A
Don't
personally
want
to
do
anything
that
would
jeopardize
the
the
ice
program-
and
I
imagine
most
of
these
are
used
for
ice
detainees.
A
L
A
J
M
A
A
Okay,
so
any
other
discussion
all
right.
So
the
motion-
and
we
have
a
second
correct-
to
release
two
new
vans
and
we'll
have
a
roll
call.
L
Next,
on
on,
my
portion
of
the
agenda
is
to
declare
waverunner
surplus.
We
have
two
wave
runners
and
a
boat
trailer
which
carries
the
wave
runners.
L
L
Actually
one
of
them
runs
very
well.
One
of
them
does
not
anyway,
so
and
there's
been
no
reason
to
fix
it.
Just
because
we
haven't
you
know
we
had
one
that
ran,
so
we
weren't
really
concerned
about
the
second
one,
but
I
would
like
to
declare
them
surplus
and
get
rid
of
them.
One
last
thing
we
have
to.
A
A
It
might
give
the
inmate
something
all
right.
We
have
a
motion
in
a
second,
this
can
be
a
voice
vote
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
all
opposed
same
sign.
L
L
Basically,
what
the
bail
reform
act
does
is
it
categorizes
offenses
into
violent
and
non-violent,
and
those
non-violent
offenders
are
going
to
get
out
of
jail
a
lot
faster
than
they
do
now
as
far
as
their
bonds
and
all
that,
without
going
into
a
whole
lot
of
explanation
about
what
the
bond's
going
to
be.
That's
all
up
to
the
judges.
L
There
was
some
question
initially
as
to
when
this
took
place
or
when
this
was
enacted.
Initially
it
was
thought
it
was
to
be
enacted
immediately.
However,
we've
got
clarification.
That
is
that
it
really
starts
on
january
1st
of
2018.
However,
some
judges
across
the
state,
including
ours,
are
starting
this
process
now.
L
So
just
a
heads
up
when,
when
we're
talking
about
all
these
projections,
what's
gonna
happen
and-
and
I
hate
to
say
this-
about
people
but
being
around
here
for
30
years
in
the
criminal
justice
system
and
seeing
the
same
customers,
we
know
that
a
lot
of
repeat
offenders
are
going
to
be
coming
back.
L
So
when
somebody
gets
released
from
jail
without
posting,
a
nickel
they're
going
to
get
rearrested
in
all
likelihood
and
that
places
a
burden
on
the
entire
criminal
justice
system,
from
the
standpoint
of
the
police,
to
re-arrest
corrections
to
process
again,
the
courts,
the
state's
attorney,
the
public
defender,
probation
and
the
circuit
clerk-
and
I
don't
know
if
I
left
anybody
out.
If
I
did,
I
apologize
booking
fees
well,.
L
Bond
they
can't
pay
booking
fees,
so
that's
kind
of
a
wash,
but
so
that
is
going
to
be
a
burden
and
you're
going
to
have
all
these
departments
here
saying
you
know
we
need
more
people
because
of
all
this,
so
you
know
again,
our
our
state
legislature
makes
up
rules
without
a
whole
lot
of
research
on
it,
because
people
in
cook
county
wanted
people
out
of
jail.
It's
basically
what
where
this
came
from,
so
just
information
on
that.
If
there's
no
questions
I'll
move
on,
I.
G
Have
a
just
a
question
it,
so
it
will
not
manifest
unless
people
are
locals
being
in
jail
at
any
one
time,
because
for
the
most
part,
you
estimate
that
you
know
we
were
looking
at
the
costs
associated
with
housing
our
own.
I
was
going
to
ask
a
question:
would
we
see
a
reduction
based
on
this
new
law?
Well,.
L
I
I
don't,
we
may
see
a
slight
reduction,
but
but
the
issue
now
is
we
are.
We
have
been
proactive
in
this
by
saying
meeting
with
the
state's
attorney's
office
and
saying
this
guy's
been
in
jail
for
three
months
and
he's
got
a
hundred
dollar
bond.
It
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
keep
him
in
jail.
So
we've
already
really
done
this
on
our
own
between
the
sheriff's
office
and
the
state's
attorney's
office.
L
To
do
that
so
will
it
change
a
little
bit
yeah,
because
it's
going
to
affect
more
people
because
we're
you
know
again,
it's
there's
a
lot
of
discretion
in
saying,
hey.
This
guy
has
been
here
so
long.
You
know
so,
but
it's
a
lot
of
still
working
together,
which
we
we
continue
to
do
to
try
to
keep
our
costs
down
as
much
as
we
can.
So
only
time
will
tell
I
guess
I
mentioned
the
cars
that
were
delayed,
they'll,
be
here
sometime
in
july.
L
The
I
don't
know
if
the
entire
board
knows,
or
an
entire
committee
knows,
that
we
had
a
weather
related
incident
a
couple
weekends
ago,
where
lightning
has
done
some
damage
to
some
equipment,
both
9-1-1
and
hours
down
at
the
old
jail,
including
the
tower
some
things
on
the
tower
that
had
to
be
done.
So
you
may
see
some
bills
from
that.
L
They
did
tremendous
work
to
kind
of
really
get
the
county
back
up
and
running
actually
on
father's
day,
so
credit
to
them
so
and
lastly,
I
have
in
my
hand
here
a
paper,
a
it's
a
summons
through
civil
process
and
it
was
issued
by
the
county,
so
it
went
through
the
state's
attorney's
office,
so
we
don't
get
paid
to
serve
it.
L
This
paper
service
is
to
one
of
your
colleagues
who
I
know
that
didn't
file
his
economic
interest
form.
We
have
attempted
this.
This
summons
was
issued
on
6
7
of
17.
We
received
it
on
6
8..
L
We
can't
serve
him
between
not
being
able
to
serve
him
and
arresting
him
on
warrants.
I
mean
it's,
it's
sad,
it's
really
sad,
but
that
burden
on
on
our
department,
because
we
don't
get
any
reimbursement
for
that.
You
don't
see
those
numbers
in
in
all
these
power
points
that
you
just
saw,
but
this
is
what
we're
dealing
with
so
and
I
mean
he's
not
the
only
one
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
people
out
there
who
are
burdens
on
our
system,
they're,
just
not
county
board
members.
L
C
L
A
Sheriff
I
just
had
a
question
on
correctional
officers.
How
do
we
have
a
lot
that
are
in
you
know,
getting
training?
We.
L
Have
nobody
at
correctional
officer
basic
at
this
point?
They
they
don't
do
correction
officer
basic
during
the
summer
for.
J
L
Reasons,
I
think,
vacations.
Basically,
we
did.
We
have
sent
12,
I
think,
through
the
first
part
of
the
year.
I
think
we'll
have
there'll
be
a
couple
other
trainings
that
we'll
have
to
send
some
people
to
later.
In
the
later.
In
the
year
september
october,.
A
Okay,
because
I
know
I'm
talking
to
chad
that
the
count
for
craigslist
is
way
down,
it
is
yeah.
A
We're
on
to
other
business.
G
All
right,
well
I'll,
just
jump
in
just
want
to
type
one
thing:
the
sheriff
said
that
lightning
hit
at
the
courthouse.
I
blew
a
hole
in
the
dome
on
one
of
the
fixtures
in
the
metal.
G
Actually,
the
copper,
so
we're
kind
of
checking
with
the
historic
requirements
there
do
we
have
to
replace,
or
can
we
patch,
because
the
patch
won't
look
like
the
actual
corner
piece,
that's
way
up
on
top
of
the
dome,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
kick
that
hornet's
nest
when
we
try
to
solve
that
problem,
but
we
can't
let
water
pour
into
the
dome
either.
So
just
the
gift
that
keeps
giving
you
know.
G
I
just
want
to
mention
that
to
the
committee
that
there
may
be
a
financial
commitment
to
this.
It
could
mean
that
I
think
patch
was
10
grand
in
the
new,
the
actual
recreating
the
actual
thing
was
like
20.,
so
we'll
get
back
to
you
with
a
firm
number,
but
we
want
to
look
into
what
that
means
on
the
front.
End
yeah,
that's
lightning
so,
anyway,
moving
on
to
the
nymec
aggregation
bid
in
your
packet.
G
I
just
wanted
to
comment
on
this
because
the
board
authorizes
me
to
go
out
and
do
the
bid
and
so
do
a
lot
of
the
other
smaller
communities
within
the
county.
We
were
able
to
secure
the
combat
rate
of
7.122.
G
That
was
their
new
rate
that
was
just
accepted
and
we
secured
6.95
for
three
years,
which
is
one
of
the
lowest
in
the
state.
We
were
able
to
leverage
this
type
of
a
program
to
benefit
a
lot
of
the
citizens
you
may
have
heard
on
the
radio
bradley
wasn't
able
to
do
it.
They
didn't
get
a
good
number.
We
were
able
to
leverage
well
for
some
reason
we're
better
than
others
in
this
aspect,
through
various
reasons.
G
So
I
took
advantage
of
the
three
year
now
because
we're
expecting
comed
to
go
up
as
high
as
seven
five,
seven
six
by
the
end
of
that
three
year
period,
so
that'll
be
substantial.
It's
also
should
be
noted
that
it's
only
the
new
rate
we've
got
is
only
one
point:
nine
percent
higher
than
what
we
did
three
years
ago.
So
I
think
we're
doing
pretty
good
work
for
the
citizens
of
the
county
that
are
able
to
participate,
so
that's
more
informational.
G
Moving
on
to
the
any
questions
by
the
way.
Sorry,
moving
on
to
the
revolving
loan
fund
write-off,
this
committee
may
be
aware.
G
Last
year
we
were
notified
that
the
state
department
of
commerce
was
no
longer
going
to
have
the
revolving
loan
fund
program
and
they
basically
wrote
us
a
letter
and
said:
do
what
you
want
with
the
money.
So
to
me
that
meant
a
couple
of
things
you
know
when
I
found
out
about
this
in
january
february,
roughly
was
to
see
what
loans
were
outstanding
because
we
had
to
settle
that
situation.
G
So
the
one
thing
we
did.
We
got
the
74
roughly
from
the
incubator.
If
you
will
out
of
chicago,
got
that
money
back.
There
was
a
couple
other
things
I
had
to
address.
You
may
remember:
we
wrote
off
the
the
doctors
won
last
year
sometime.
I
believe
we
wrote
that
off.
We
granted
for
the
mechanic
street
project
out
in
moments
to
do
that.
That
was
part
of
the
revolving
loan
fund
at
the
time.
G
So
there's
a
couple
of
things
that
I
need
to
clear
up
as
far
as
the
business.
The
first
one
is
is
the
pembroke
township
was
awarded
forty
five
thousand
six
hundred
fifty
four
dollars
and
thirty
six
cents
on
april
29,
2011
for
building
repairs
and
purchase
of
furniture
and
equipment
for
the
power
center.
I
almost
put
now
defunct.
I
don't
know
if
it
was
ever
funked.
If
you
will,
I
don't
know
if
it
ever
had
anything
going,
we've
never
received
a
payment
and
the
balance
is
still
owed.
G
The
furniture
and
the
equipment
purchased
with
the
loan
was
also
offered
as
collateral
on
the
loan.
That's
45
000
worth
of
2011
furniture
and
2011
computers.
If
you
will,
there's
no
value
there
whatsoever
for
us
to
pursue
this,
so
I'm
asking
the
committee
we
need
to
do
like
we
did
with
the
the
doctor's
office
situation
and
we
need
to
write
this
off
to
get
this
off
of
the
books
so
that
that
separately,
I
need
a
motion
to
approve
that
and
then
a
second
and
then
we
can
talk
about
it.
A
Are
you
making
a
motion,
george
motioned
by
mr
washington
second
by
mr
vickery,
write
off
the
revolving
loan
for
pembroke
township
yep
45.
A
G
By
the
way,
the
doctor's
office
was
exceptional
health
care.
I
just
see
the
name
here.
If
that
rings,
a
bell.
The
next
issue
or
the
the
final
one
we
need
to
tie
up
was
main
street
moments.
We
granted
them
fifty
thousand
dollars
or
excuse
me
yeah
we're
granted
them
fifty
thousand
dollars
on
december
10,
2000
2009
to
create
their
own
loan
program
or
provide
loans
for
improvements
to
the
downtown
buildings.
The
the
funds
were
to
be
repaid
in
2015
or
an
extension
granted
to
continue
the
program.
G
So
I
had
some
conversations
with
main
street
moments.
Mr
vickery
was
came
out
and
we
had
sat
down
and
talked
to
them
and
they've
got
that
money
tied
up
into
micro
loans
of
their
own
and
rather-
and
we
have
to
settle
our
book
so
to
speak
on
this.
This
revolving
loan
fund,
so
the
discussion
I
had
with
them
was-
is
to
offer
them
to
call
that
a
grant.
Much
like
we
did
for
the
mechanic
street
project.
G
We,
I
believe
in
helping
that
organization
do
the
facade
improvements
and
the
things
that
they've
got
going
on
within
moments.
I
think
it's
a
good
use
of
the
money
sure
we
could
use
it
over
here,
but
that
would
actually
pull
the
rug
out
from
underneath
that
organization
when
the
money's
still
in
play
with
their
own
micro
loans.
G
So
my
recommendation
to
this
committee
would
be
to
turn
that
a
full-on
grant
to
get
our
books
settled
and
then
we
can
decide
what
we
want
to
do
with
the
rest
of
the
revolving
loan
fund
money
and
where
we
want
to
house
that
my
recommendation
would
be
contingency
for
right
now,
but
yeah.
That's
so
that
I'm
asking
for
a
motion
in
a
second
on
that
to
move
that
one
forward.
A
We
have
a
motion
by
mr
vickery
second
by
mr
washington,
and
this
is:
are
we
changing
this
to
make
it
a
grant
we're.
A
A
We
have
a
motion
motion
in
a
second,
mrs
weber,.
H
G
There
was
discussion
on
that.
They,
the
way
that
their
program
has
is
set
up
from
the
federal
government
because
they
had
matching
funds
from
the
fed.
It
does
need
to
remain
as
the
loan
program.
Some
of
those
loans
were
bad
too.
It's
always
a
as
we
have
learned.
It's
always
somewhat
of
a
gamble
when
you
do
these
types
of
micro
loans.
Theirs
are
more
micro
than
ours,
obviously,
but
so
what
they
have
still
in
play
is
still
valuable
to
the
community
and
they
are
collecting
on
those.
G
So
we're
I'm
also
trying
to
help
them
figure
out.
They
didn't
take
advantage
of
their
whole
match
that
they
could
have
so
we're
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
maybe
let
them
go
back
to
the
federal
government
if
possible,
to
get
more
of
a
match
so
yeah
this
won't.
They
won't
call
those
grants
it's
in
their
best
interest,
not
to
do
so.
E
A
little
point
of
information
on
that
this
was
a
matching
fund
thing
that
they
got
99
000
from
the
federal
government
and
we
put
up
50
in
the
revolving
loan
fund.
It's
cdap
money
number
one.
It
wasn't
taxpayer
well.
E
And
so,
and
it
has,
it
has
enhanced
the
downtown
area
and
they
do
have
quite
a
rigorous
process
to
get
a
loan.
It's
not
not
something,
that's
very
simple,
but
they
do
have
a
rigorous
process.
Thank.
G
G
Oh
yeah,
I
apologize
it
wasn't
on
my
my
agenda,
just
as
an
informational
thing
on
the
you'll
see
on
the
screen
up
there,
you
might
have
got
it
via
email
at
the
full
board,
we're
going
to
need
to
approve
the
audit.
We
realized
that
looking
back
through
the
minutes
at
the
finance
committee
when
she
was
doing
the
minutes
before
this
meeting,
that
we
never
we
talked
about
the
draft,
but
we
never
approved
it.
G
So
things
kind
of
go
sideways,
sometimes
during
a
meeting-
and
you
kind
of
you
missed
some
things,
so
we've
posted
it
it's
out
there.
We've
all
seen
received
this
link
as
board
members,
so
we're
just
going
to
bring
it
forward
to
the
full
board
meeting
to
be
adopted
at
the
full
board
meeting
on
the
11th,
so
that
was
more
advisory.
G
Nothing
to
do
right
now,
just
to
let
you
know
maybe
check
it
out
see
if
you
can
formulate
some
questions
before
now
and
then
and
everybody's
really
heard
the
gist
of
what
was
going
on
in
the
audit
already.
E
G
E
A
Anything
else,
that's
all.
I
got
okay.
I
would
just
like
to
thank
all
those
that
were
involved
in
the
the
the
three-year
projection.
I
know
that
took
a
lot
of
work.
I
think
andy.
You
were
involved,
of
course,
and
steve
and
steve
mccarty
yeah.
G
A
Yeah,
so
whoever,
if
I
missed
anybody,
I'm
sorry,
but
in
my
years
here
I
don't
recall
us
going
that
far
out
and
then
projecting
what
we're
doing
in
it.
It
not
only
helps
you
know
the
public,
see
where
we're
going,
but
the
department
heads
too
can
see
what
we're
trying
to
do,
and-
and
in
that
case
they
can,
you
know,
be
of
assistance,
naturally
to
help
us
reach
those
goals
and
all
the
ones
that
appeared
before
this
committee
today.
I
thank
you
for
your
input.
A
I
I've
been
on
the
board
a
long
time
and
we've
gone
through
some
very
tough
periods
in
it,
but
I
think
now
we're
with
the
leadership
we
have.
I
think,
we're
doing
a
good
job
of
trying
to
get
back
to
where
we
need
to
be
in
the
shortest
amount
of
time
we
can,
which
is,
I
think,
a
rare
feat.
If
you
looked
at
that
revenue
and
expenses,
since
I
believe
2012,
we
were
down
9
million
in
revenue
and
at
the
same
time
we
eliminated
10
million
in
expenditures.
A
That's
a
lot
of
work,
and
you
know
it's
only
made
possible
by
department
heads
working
with
us.
Our
partnerships,
as
far
as
the
employees
and
the
union
people,
so
we're
still
going
to
need
all
that
participation
to
continue
on
and
get
where
we
want
to
get
as
soon
as
we
can
get
there.
So
I
thank
you
all
for
that
and
I'll
take
a
motion
to
adjourn.
I've
taught
mr
mulcay
very
well,
but
mr
hess
is
making
the
motion
seconded
by
mr
mulcahy.