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Finance Committee Meeting 5/24/2023 9:00 AM
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A
B
C
C
This
is
my
first
time
at
a
County
board
meeting.
So
thanks
for
having
me
thanks
for
your
time,
I
just
wanted
to
come
today
to
try
to
clear
up
some
confusion.
That
was
pretty
clear.
Last
month
at
the
finance
committee
meeting,
we
had
applied
for
the
county,
arpa
funds,
and
we
had.
We
were
pretty
clear.
We
had
communicated
a
couple
times
through
email,
but
also
it
was
clear
in
our
application
that
we
were
applying
for
funds
to
fund
the
operation
of
our
emergency
overnight
homeless,
shelter
we
had
also.
C
It
was
no
secret.
We
had
communicated
by
email
and
also
at
our
public.
We
had
a
public
meeting
with
officials.
Chairman
Weber
had
attended,
and
we
had
a
conversation
about
the
fact
that
if
we
were
able
to
get
funding
for
the
emergency
shelter,
then
we
would
be
able
to
divert
unrestricted
funds
to
our
construction
project.
So
the
arpa
funds
were
not
for
construction.
C
We
knew
that
the
county
Arbor
funds
were
not
going
to
fund
brick
and
mortar
construction,
so
we
felt
like
that
was
pretty
clearly
communicated
and
then,
as
you
probably
know,
between
well,
we
received
a
letter.
That's
saying
from
the
county
board
that
we
you
were
not
recommending
are.
Let
me
get
the
wording
right,
not
recommending
your
requests
to
move
our
request
to
move
forward
with
that
Grant,
and
so
between
that
time
we
received
this
letter
and
the
next
your
finance
committee.
C
We
had
pulled
out
of
our
construction
project
due
to
the
fun
concerns
and
some
other
complications
we
were
having
with
the
city
and
I
did
email
chairman
Weber
to
let
him
know
of
that
I'm.
Sorry,
thank
you,
chairman
wheeler,
to
clarify
where
we
were
at
with
that
position.
We
had
not
officially
responded
to
the
letter
simply
because
we
were
just
in
flux.
We
had.
C
We
have
sent
several
emails
both
to
the
Grant
email
here
in
the
letter
and
to
Chairman
wheeler
and
have
not
had
a
response,
so
we're
definitely
wanting
to
have
that
conversation.
So
hopefully,
someone
can
get
in
touch
with
us.
We're
happy
to
have
that
conversation
further,
but
we
just
wanted
to
clear
that
up.
C
B
D
A
A
G
But
as
we
saw
the
data,
we
believed
we
had
a
better
position
than
that
and
Blue
Cross
worked
with
us
and
we
got
it
down.
I
believe
it
was
5.5
percent
and
in
summary,
the
year
22
2022
ended
up.
We
had
33
less
total
bodies,
I,
don't
know
what
that
corresponded
to
and
just
pure
employee
life.
But
it
was
not
very
many
in
finance,
22,
verses,
21
medically.
We
were
down
around
21
in
terms
of
total
claims
from
Pharmacy
claims
and
cost
expenses.
G
Now,
at
that
time,
when
we
got
the
renewal
last
year,
I
believe
it
was
running
in
the
85
percent
plus
range.
The
average
loss
ratio,
as
it
ended
up,
was
right
around
79.6,
so
it
became
a
better
group
as
time
went
on,
which
is
reflected
in.
Why
I
believe
that
we
got
down
to
that
five
percent,
which
really
resulted
in
a
a
protection
against
inflation
going
into
the
next
year
in
terms
of
network
savings,
it's
always
instructive
to
look
back
about.
G
62.5
of
the
claims
submitted
were
reduced,
or
that
was
the
average
reduction.
62.5
I
said
that
incorrectly
and
there
was
about
a
98.4
percent
usage
of
the
Blue
Cross
Blue
Shield
Network
last
year,
claims
between
100
and
150
000.
We
had
one
claimant
over
150,
we
had
zero,
but
we
did
have
50
claimants
that
had
50
50
000
of
claims
or
more
one
of
those
was
a
female
age
64
and
she
is
no
longer
on
the
group.
G
We
don't
know
who
that
was,
but
it
just
states
that
and
of
those
2019
are
still
insured
as
a
point
of
reference.
I
looked
up
the
current
information
here
in
2023
and
right
now,
we've
got
five
claimants
of
50
000
or
more
two
of
those
of
male
and
a
female
or
both
65
or
over
and
in
in
the
report
itself.
We'll
see
the
specifics
of
that
now.
I
wanted
to
make
a
comment
going
into
the
reports.
What
we
see
in
Trend
and
you'll.
G
The
industry
is
somewhere
around
eight
point
or
eight
point:
zero
percent
pharmaceutical,
their
internal
non-specialty
medicines
trend
is
around
6.8
percent.
Their
specialty
trend
is
around
13
percent
right
now,
they're.
Oh,
the
average
industry
for
both
combined
is
around
12
percent.
So
that
gives
you
a
start
to
looking
at
where
we're
at.
In
terms
of
that
now,
when
we
come
to
August
they'll
have
data
looking
back
12
months
previous
and
then
the
previous
12
months
beyond
that,
and
that's
how
we've
done
this
ever
since
we've
been
involved
with
Blue
Cross.
G
So
at
that
point
you'll
see
one
of
your
packets
is
blue,
Insight,
monthly
financial
report
and
down
at
the
bottom.
It
says
1
123
to
430,
so
that's
the
first
four
months
of
the
year
and
what
you're
going
to
see
here
is
the
first
page
is
the
enrollment
overview,
and
it
just
shows
you
basically
that
in
terms
of
single
subscribers,
we
start
off
with
409
right
now
we're
sitting
on
or
through
April
about
413
lives.
Then,
when
you
go
to
the
next
column,
you'll
see
medical
members,
and
that
means
everybody.
G
That's
in
either
a
single
children
or
family
tier
added
into
that.
So
we've
got
870
medical
members
and
ended
up
in
April
879.
So
Below.
You
can
see
on
both
sides
of
the
page.
It
gives
you
enrollment
by
tier
and
below
that
there's
the
guide
employee,
only
employee
plus
one
employee,
plus
dependents
and
family
and
then
an
enrollment
by
gender.
So
you
know
right
now.
All
of
those
things
are
very
much
similar
to
the
prior
period,
which
been
a
year
ago.
G
Turning
to
the
next
page,
the
nitty-gritty
is
the
financial
summary
and
up
in
the
left
hand,
corner
you'll
see
they
call
this
the
medical
order
of
reduction.
It
just
shows
us
from
left
to
right.
You'll
see
the
paid
month
right
now,
they're
looking
at
April
of
2023
and
in
terms
of
the
Billings
for
the
month
there
was
a
million
302
thousand
dollars.
G
Then
you'll
go
over
to
the
next
and
they'll
set
show
that
January
22
through
April
22
that
four
month
period
a
year
ago,
there
was
four
million
734
and
right
now,
you'll
see
submitted
in
the
23
year.
There's
about
a
27.4
percent
increase
in
what
was
billed
now
I
highlighted
in
yellow
you'll,
see
of
those
Billings
what
was
covered.
G
The
next
line
is
of
those
Billings.
What
is
the
discount
factor
that
Blue
Cross
allows
and
then
of
that
what
is
allowed
to
be
considered
to
be
reimbursable,
and
even
still
there
we've
got
about
a
31
percent
increase.
So
if
you
go
down
to
the
the
last
column,
the
medical
paid
in
that
month
of
23,
the
medical
paid
was
304
000
a
year
ago,
was
a
million
152
and
this
current
span
of
23
in
the
four
months,
a
million
562..
So
again,
it
just
shows
you
from
top
to
bottom.
G
We've
got
a
hot
period
coming
into
this
first
part
of
the
year
and
So
Below.
We
see
that
the
group
liability
breakdown
by
medical
and
Pharmacy
again
right
to
left
and
total
paid
claims
and
then
at
the
bottom.
The
group
liability
so
again,
no
matter
how
you
cut
it,
we're
right
up
in
the
high
20
percent
range
of
increased
claim,
activity
and
I
will
say
that
last
year
we
had
a
similar
takeoff
and,
as
you
saw,
we
came
back
to
kind
of
a
plateau
in
a
lesser
percentage
range.
G
G
and
you'll,
see
on
the
right
side
of
the
column
and,
as
I
said
just
a
second
ago,
you'll
see
some
very
singularly
pretty
good
month-to-month
representations
there
and
at
the
bottom
right
now
our
loss
ratio
is
running
around
85.3
percent.
So
it
could
be
a
whole
heck
of
a
lot
worse,
as
we've
seen
in
some
years
in
the
90s
and
unfortunately
in
the
hundred
percent.
G
So
this
is
well
below
those
averages
below
that.
You
can
see
that
the
total
paid
versus
specialty
paid,
and
then
you
see
at
the
bottom
there,
the
prior
period
and
then
the
current
period
and
they're
both
not
dissimilar,
so
we're
we're,
just
as
the
percentages
say
about
of
that
we're
in
pretty
good
shape.
G
Port
scenario
you'll
see
on
the
front:
there
is
called
the
Blue
Insight
utilization
analyst
and
Analysis
report
it's
incurred
under
one
basis,
but
I
kind
of
pay
attention
to
the
paid
numbers
which
line
up
with
what
we've
been
talking
about
here
and
if
you'd
go
to
the
executive
summary,
we
don't
have
to
drill
down
too
far.
This
summary
is
a
really
good
report
and
tells
you
what
you
kind
of
need
to
know
in.
In
short,
the
counties
overall
enrollment
decreased
about
1.4
percent.
G
It
gives
an
average
age
right
there
at
33,
34
years
of
age.
The
gender
mix
is
51.8
female
48.2
male,
that's
a
pretty
good
scenario.
If
you
will,
when
you
look
at
the
marketplaces,
I've
seen
groups
that
have
average
ages
into
the
40s,
and
now
you
start
seeing
a
stepped
up
claim
basis.
So
this
is
a
kind
of
a
young
group
in
a
great
sense.
So
that's
a
very
positive
thing.
G
Overall
paid
membership
paid
per
member
per
month
decrease
during
this
period
by
4.7
percent
between
between
these
reporting
periods,
the
service
category
that
was
impacted.
The
most
was
outpatient
facilities
decreased,
16
percent
and
the
the
paid
per
member
per
month
for
Kankakee
County
was
12.2
percent
lower
than
the
Benchmark,
which
in
this
case
would
be
the
book
of
business.
Blue
Cross
has
available
and
then
by
a
section
inpatient
down,
7.2
outpatient
down,
16
percent
professional
paid
per
member
per
month
is
up
about
10.2
percent,
which
is
not
always
a
negative.
G
Pharmacy
decreased
8.7
percent.
So
again,
there's
there's
several
positives
in
there.
Looking
forward,
the
diagnostic
categories
per
member
per
month
are
listed,
their
muscular
skeletal,
circulatory
health
status
and
injury.
Those
four
diagnostic
categories
accounted
for
about
47.6
percent
of
the
overall
expenses
high
cost
claimants,
total
expenses
decreased
12.9
percent,
the
proportion
of
paid
expenses
due
high
cost
claimants
decreased
very
slightly
below
that
paid
membership
or
paid
per
member
per
month.
The
ER
visits
decreased.
That's
always
good.
Totally.
G
The
next
page
kind
of
builds
upon
all
those
statistics
and
right
now,
they're
telling
you
that
by
the
month
you
can
multiply
that
out
and
get
a
a
per
member
annual
figure
is
is
at
469.27,
which
is
a
drop
of
4.7
percent.
From
last
year,
it's
12.2
percent
lower
than
the
Benchmark,
and
then
you'll
see
below
that
in
the
center
4.7
drifting
out
to
all
those
cost
expenses,
and
you
can
see
where
they
line
up
in
each
area
of
that
report.
G
If
you
want
to
move
towards
page
14,
which
is
the
next
page
to
flip
over,
it
tells
you
about
these
high
cost
claimants.
It's
right
now
about
1.284
they're
telling
you
the
Benchmark
is
1.86,
so
we
pretty
well
match
up
there.
This
accounted
for
16
high
cost
claimants
in
the
prior
period,
27.6
percent
of
the
total
paid
and
then
below
that
you
can
see
that
about.
18.8
percent
of
those
people
will
repeat
high
cost
claimants.
G
A
couple
more
pages
or
one
more
pages.
If
you'll
flip
I
gave
you
a
listing
here
of
both
16
persons
just
to
show
you
know
the
disposition
of
how
some
of
these
claimants
come
out,
you'll
see
from
the
left
to
the
right
who
it
is
their
age,
gender
ban.
What
the
leading
diagnostic
category
is
the
County's
been,
unfortunately,
a
high
neoplasms.
G
Group
here
we
don't
see
as
many
right
now,
which
is
a
good
thing.
Then
they
say
the
leading
diagnostic
category.
Then
you
can
see
from
the
inpatient
paid
outpatient,
Professional,
Pharmacy
breakdown,
then
the
total
and
then
again
they'll
check
their
prior
high
cost
claimant,
and
you
see
only
really
here
in
that
time
period.
I
think
three
of
16
were
priors.
G
The
rest
of
them
were
not
priors,
but
then
they
show
you
the
prior
paid
in
terms
of
whether
it
was
yes
or
no
I
mean
it
might
have
been
under
different
circumstance,
they're
showing
that.
But
it
just
shows
you
a
little
bit
about
you
know
the
high
cost
claimants
so
I
would
say
going
into
renewal.
What
we
need
to
watch
out
for
is
these
high
cost
claimants
we're
going
to
have
to
deal
with
that.
G
If
that
grows
again,
if
it
doesn't
grow
again,
we'll
be
very
lucky,
I
would
say,
and
hopefully
that
loss
ratio
stays
in.
You
know
that
mid-range
79
to
85
percent
is
is
very,
very
good
in
in
a
great
sense,
because,
as
I
said
we've
seen
years
where
it's
been
in
the
90s,
it's
been
in
the
hundreds
and
that's
when
you
don't
have
a
lot
of
things
to
to
stand
on
to
to
have
them
help
you
get
that
number
down.
G
So
we
will
be
looking
at
the
marketplace
to
see
what
what
we
get,
but
we
want
to
get
the
renewal
first
to
see
if
there's
a
worthy
competitor
out
there,
but
I
I
will
end
by
saying
we
get
an
awful
lot
from
this
carrier.
I
don't
want
to
prop
them
up
too
high,
but
they're
one
of
the
best
carriers
in
our
Marketplace
and
I
say
that
knowing
I
only
have
five
to
seven
Marketplace
players
at
any.
Given
time
to
go
to
in
the
old
days,
I
could
have
told
you
we
had
13
14
15..
G
Now
we
don't
have
that
anymore.
So
we
rely
on
the
carrier
to
help
us
manage
the
high
claimants
and
that's
the
point
of
reference,
we're
dealing
with
claims
here
in
big
group
and
just
because
a
rate
goes
up.
Sometimes
doesn't
tell
the
whole
story
in
terms
of
whether
the
carrier
itself
is
being
competitive.
Can
they
help
us
control
these
things,
and
that's
goes
back
to
what
I
said
to
begin
with
I'm,
not
just
flagrantly
being
a
fan
of
Blue
Cross.
We
know
they're,
one
of
the
better
ones
in
the
marketplace
from
those
perspectives.
G
H
G
H
H
G
Don't
see
it
in
yours,
yeah
I,
don't
see
it
strongly
in
this
case,
nor
have
I
seen
it
strongly
in
the
area.
But
yes,
there
are
some
there
there's
very
much
some
of
that.
Some
people
went
right
out
of
last
year
into
the
the
22
year
and
saw
some
of
that,
but
in
the
in
the
high
expense
here,
I
believe
it's
part
of
it,
but
not
all
of
it.
G
To
be
honest,
I
think
some
of
the
Physicians
visits
could
explain
some
of
that
yeah
and-
and
we've
talked
about
that
almost
at
every
group
that
we've
been
at,
we
were
at
a
1200
person
group
and
the
same
point
of
references
come
there's
high
cost
claimants,
but
some
of
this
seems
to
be
cancers.
Some
of
this
seems
to
be
other
kinds
of
expenses
that
don't
aren't
explained
by
covet,
but.
G
I
Morning,
all
right,
my
name
is
Adam
Hoover
I'm
with
nimek,
and
we
are
the
County's
energy
consultant,
and
so
we've
been
helping
currently
with
the
municipal
aggregation
program
that
is
expiring
in
September.
So
the
first
thing
just
a
quick
review.
The
aggregation
program
allows
for
it's
a
it's
a
program
sponsored
and
supported
by
the
state
of
Illinois
that
pretty
much
allows
for
the
bulk
purchasing
of
electricity
on
the
resident's
behalf,
so
kind
of
putting
everyone
together
to
hopefully
find
a
better
rate.
I
So
the
current
program
expires
in
September.
So
the
first
thing
that
we
always
do
is
we
look
to
see
if
we
can
save
residence
money
I
believe
you
have
a
little
price
Matrix
in
your
in
your
packet.
That
shows
you
the
rates.
We
were
very
excited
that
we
thought
we
were
going
to
find
some
savings
about
two
months
ago.
The
current
ComEd
rate
that
we
are
all
paying
if
you're
on
comet
is
9.7
cents.
I
This
month
it
has
now,
and
it
drops
from
June
to
June
so
June
of
next
month
to
about
May
of
2024
is
when
combat
has
their
fixed
rate
for
next
year.
So
we
were
hopeful
we're
going
to
find
savings.
Unfortunately,
comment
dropped,
their
annualized
ComEd
rate
to
seven
cents,
and
also
this
is
not
part
of
aggregation.
I
It
gets
confusing,
but
just
to
be
clear,
you
will
not
see
monster
savings
on
your
own
personal
ComEd
bill,
because
ComEd
is
also
raising
their
prices
on
their
taxes
and
delivery,
and
a
couple
other
portions
so
before
you
get
very
excited
that
your
ComEd
bill
may
drop
by
Twenty
thirty
dollars,
it
won't
so
that
is
regardless
of
aggregation.
I'll
explain
that
in
a
second,
so
what
we
come
to
is
kind
of
our
backup
option.
Like
I
said,
our
first
option
is
always
trying
to
find
resident
savings.
I
We
cannot
do
that,
unfortunately,
we're
very
close
and
we're
hopeful.
We
can
do
it
again
next
year
and
so
kind
of
our
backup
auction
is
what
we
are
currently
running,
which
is
the
ComEd
rate
match
program
that
allows
residents
to
be
guaranteed
to
pay
the
same
as
the
comment
rate.
So
there
will
be
no
change
to
the
ComEd
rate.
There
will
be
no
rate
difference.
There
will
be
no
billing
difference.
I
There
are
many
residents
that
are
currently
part
of
this
program
now
and
in
turn,
the
our
best
supplier,
MC
squared,
would
have
a
Civic
payment
of
thirty
six
thousand
dollars.
It
would
be
a
one
year
Pro
and
by
the
way
that
thirty
six
thousand
dollars
is
not
earmarked,
it
can
be
spent
anyway.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
to
a
green
energy
program
or
whatever
so
that
it
just
goes
to
the
county
for
whatever
needs
it
may
be.
I
We
are
suggesting
they're,
offering
a
two-year
deal
to
be
clear,
but
I.
Think
chairman,
wheeler
and
I
are
suggesting
a
one-year
deal,
as
we
are
hopeful
that
next
year
we
can
start
finding
resident
savings
or
a
better
comment
rate
match
program
or
whatever,
so
we're
just
we're
recommending
a
one-year
deal.
H
Chairman,
we
pretty
much
summed
it
up,
you
know
we
we
enjoyed.
You
know,
you
may
remember
this
isn't
obviously
Mr
Holmes
and
his
organization,
but
natural
gas.
We
bought
two
and
a
half
years
ago,
and
we
didn't
because
we
saw
the
market
potentially
going.
This
Direction
Nobody
saw
the
Ukraine.
Obviously,
but
in
this
case
we
don't
think
getting
into
a
three-year
or
two-year
Arrangement
would
be
prudent,
because
the
market
will
correct.
We
just
don't
know
which
way
it's
it's
still
going
to
go.
H
So
my
thought
is:
is
tread
water
for
a
year
as
long
in
in
the
the
local
residents
on
the
you
know
in
the
rural
areas,
if
you
will,
and
those
within
small
municipalities
that
are
with
us,
won't
see
an
increase
over
the
ComEd
rate,
which
is
about
the
best
well,
it
is
the
best
that
can
be
done.
Yeah
at
this
point,
yeah.
F
I
It
is
not
on
that
chart
because
we
are
because
if
we
found
a
number
on
there
that
was
under
seven
yeah,
then
we
would
recommend
that,
because
that
would
achieve
resident
savings.
We
have
not
found
that
from
our
supplier.
So
we
are
not
recommending
that
and
so
our
new
program
guarantees
that
residents
pay
the
comment
rate
whatever.
F
I
A
B
E
J
K
K
So
today,
I'll
just
go
over
a
summary
of
the
highlights
of
the
audit
and
the
status
of
the
audit,
and
then
we
can
be
on
our
way.
The
primary
objective
of
an
audit
is
for
us
to
look
at
your
financial
statements
and
then
provide
an
opinion
on
whether
they
are
materially
correct.
So
this
year
we
have
an
unmodified
opinion,
which
means
it's
a
clean
opinion,
and
that
has
been
the
same
for
several
years.
That's
no
change.
K
K
We
did
Note
One
deficiency
in
internal
control
over
financial
reporting,
so
that
is
in
your
packets.
If
you
want
to
read
through
that
more
closely
and
the
county
and
the
health
department
have
each
provided
corrective
action
plans
for
those
items
and
then
one
piece
is
a
possible
non-compliance
item.
We
are
still
in
the
process
of
gathering
final
documentation
on
that,
maybe
even
as
soon
as
today,
so
there
it's
possible
that
it
will
not
be
a
non-compliance
issue.
K
It's
written
up
that
way
for
you
to
see
in
that
draft,
that's
in
your
packets,
but
that
will
go
away
if
we
get
the
proper
documentation.
So
other
items
that
we'll
be
communicating
to
you
is
a
required
Communications
to
governance
and
generalists,
generally
speaking,
that's
boilerplate
language
and
then
we'll
also
have
a
management
letter
with
recommendations
those
are
being
finalized.
Currently,
the
items
in
your
packet
is
a
very,
very
small
portion
of
the
entire
annual
comprehensive
financial
report.
When
that's
all
said
and
done,
the
final
report
will
probably
be
close
to
190
Pages.
K
You
have
about
20
here,
so
it's
the
main
financials
from
the
front
of
the
of
the
annual
report.
So
in
that
annual
report
you're
going
to
find
about
a
18
to
20,
Page,
Management's,
discussion
and
Analysis
and
that's
a
high
level
overview
of
the
financial
statements
written
by
the
finance
department,
I
would
highly
recommend
that,
when
the
full
report
is
out
that
you
read
through
that,
it
gives
you
a
good
overview
and
it
gives
the
highlights
of
the
year
and
it's
written
in
readable
language
for
everybody.
K
All
right
first
highlights
of
the
financial
information.
The
statement
and
net
position
is
a
high
level
summarized
balance
sheet.
Basically,
and
it's
just
two
columns
governmental
activities
and
business
type
activities.
The
governmental
activities
is
your
general
fund,
torque
pension,
all
the
special
funds,
and
then
the
business
type
activities
consists
of
etsb
and
animal
control,
and
then
you
also
have
fiduciary
funds
where
the
county
is
responsible
for
being
the
custodian
of
those
funds,
but
those
funds
are
not
available
to
the
county
for
County's
operations,
so
those
are
not
included
in
this
statement
and
net
position.
K
The
net
position
in
your
governmental
activities
consists
of
three
categories,
so
there's
a
net
investment
of
in
capital,
assets
of
46.9
million
and
then
a
restricted
net
position
of
36.2
million
in
restricted
means
that
you
can't
just
spend
it
for
anything.
You
want
it's
either
restricted
by
a
levy
or
by
a
statute
on
how
those
funds
can
be
spent,
and
then
that
leaves
an
unrestricted
net
position.
Deficit
of
1.5
million,
which
sounds
like
maybe
a
negative
thing.
K
However,
that
is
an
improvement
of
16.1
million
dollars
of
a
deficit
in
the
prior
Year,
and
that
is
pretty
normal
in
these
entity-wide
statements
for
governments
to
have
a
deficit
unrestricted
balance
just
due
to
the
nature
of
the
capital
assets
and
the
Investments
you
have
in
that,
and
then
all
of
those
restricted
funds
in
business
type
activities.
The
net
position
is
12.4
million
dollars.
Most
of
that
is
unrestricted
and
obviously
will
be
spent
for
purposes
of
etsb
and
animal
control.
K
One
significant
item
on
your
statement
in
that
position
is
your
liabilities,
your
long-term
liabilities,
so
long-term
liabilities,
totaled
17.9
million
dollars.
There
was
a
net
decrease
of
5.3
million.
There
was
one
Bond
issued
during
the
year
for
1.5
million
to
fund
I,
believe
Animal
Control
facilities,
and
there
was
a
4.6
million
dollar
decrease
in
a
pension
liability
and
that's
an
estimate-
that's
somewhat
volatile
year
to
year.
K
There's
sick
pay
that
is
paid
out
upon
retirement.
So
those
are
all
estimates
there
is
a
chart
in
the
packet
that
I
gave
you
we
lifted
that
out
of
the
financial
statements
for
the
total
liabilities.
If
you
want
to
see
some
more
of
those
details,
the
income
statement
for
governmental
activities
and
business
type
activities
is
called
the
statement
of
activities
and
it's
organized
in
a
net
expense
format.
K
So
it
lists
your
total
expenses
expenses
by
function,
General,
government,
court
services,
Public,
Safety
and
so
on,
and
then
it
will
be
offset
by
any
charges
for
services
and
grants
and
contributions
that
are
coming
in
towards
those
functions
to
come
down
to
a
net
expense
amount.
That
then,
is
required
to
be
funded
somehow
and
generally
that's
funded
by
your
tax
revenues
and
other
General
revenues,
which
are
shown
at
the
bottom
of
that
statement.
K
Consistent
with
past
years,
Public
Safety
is
the
largest
function
of
the
county,
followed
by
Transportation,
General
government
and
court
services.
A
couple
highlights
the
governmental
activities
increase
in
net
position
was
18.8
million
and
the
increase
in
business
type
activities.
Net
position
was
2.2
million
following
those
high
levels.
Summarized
financial
statements
are
the
governmental
funds,
financial
statements.
K
So
that's
a
little
bit
more
detail
and
that's
that's
more
of
the
format
that
you
are
used
to
seeing
regularly
throughout
the
year
from
the
finance
department.
So
it
breaks
it
up
by
your
major
funds
and
then
there's
one
column
that
just
Aggregates
all
the
remaining
funds.
So
your
major
funds
for
fiscal
year
22
or
the
general
fund
pension
fund,
Highway
fund,
County
bridge
and
then
both
of
the
arpa
funds
and
just
as
a
clarification,
the
tort
activity
is
also
rolled
up
in
the
general
fund
column.
K
The
combined
general
fund
ended
with
a
positive
fund
balance
of
11.3
million,
so
that
continues
the
increasing
trend
of
the
last
four
years
prior
to
2019.
The
general
fund
had
deficit
fund
balances
so
for
the
last
four
years,
you've
been
continuing
to
build
a
positive
fund
balance
which
in
turn
has
helped
your
ratings.
Your
bond
ratings
and
things
like
that
and
just
puts
everybody
in
a
more
comfortable
position
month
to
month,
right,
Steve,
I,.
K
K
So
revenues
increased
by
5.2
million
dollars
in
the
general
fund
over
fiscal
year,
21
and
expenditures
only
increased
by
1.9
million.
The
primary
increase
in
revenues
was
due
to
those
increases
in
some
tax
and
intergovernment
governmental
revenues,
replacement
taxes,
as
I
know,
you've
seen
doubled
from
1.7
million
in
fiscal
year,
21
to
3.5
million
in
fiscal
year.
22.
and
all
municipalities
and
governmental
entities
are
seeing
that
across
the
state
there
was
also
an
increase
in
inmate
revenues
and
related
expenditures.
K
Those
usually
go
hand
in
hand
as
they
get
more
inmates.
They
have
increased
expenses
and
then
there
were
the
increase
in
expenses
was
primarily
due
to
additional
capital
projects
in
various
departments
and
also
on
the
financials.
You
continue
to
recognize
the
revenue
from
the
sale
of
the
juvenile
detention
center.
That
happened
a
few
years
back
and
fiscal
year.
22
is
the
last
year
of
that.
So
all
of
that
should
be
final.
Now
I
mentioned
those
business
type
activities
before
in
the
governmental
funds.
K
They're
called
Enterprise
funds,
so
etsb
is
considered
a
major
fund,
the
net
position
in
cash
increased
by
2
million
and
1.8
million
respectively.
Their
revenues
at
utsb
do
continue
to
outpace
expenses,
but
that's
with
the
continued
goal
of
building
proper
reasons
for
future
infrastructure
improvements
and
maintenance.
K
I
mentioned
those
fiduciary
funds
that
are
held
by
the
county,
but
not
to
be
able
to
be
used
for
the
County's
operations.
Some
of
those
more
significant
ones
include
the
County
collector
fund,
where
you're
collecting
all
those
taxes
and
then
Distributing
them
to
all
of
the
other
governmental
entities
throughout
the
county.
The
circuit
clerk,
which
includes
the
bonds
and
fees
of
others
that
they're
holding
in
the
court
system
until
all
those
things
go
through
the
docket
and
then
the
county
clerk
and
the
sheriff
commissary
are
two
other
significant
ones.
K
K
Those
items,
even
if
they're
just
operating
leases,
will
end
up
on
the
balance
sheet,
so
it
it
becomes
like
an
intangible
right
to
use
asset
if
you're
leasing
from
somebody
and
then
it
becomes
a
receivable
long-term
receivable,
If
you're
receiving
it
from
somebody
else
so
you're
into
any
of
those
agreements
in
the
future.
They
will
have
an
impact.
D
H
K
So
if
you're
some
governmental
entities
will
enter
things
for
a
dollar,
you
know
things
like
that,
so
those
things
are
kicked
out
and
when
we
did
an
analysis
of
the
Roe
Arrangement,
it
was
below
market
value.
So
therefore
it
didn't
meet
the
criteria
to
have
to.
We
didn't
have
to
go
through
all
the
calculations,
to
get
it
on
the
balance
sheet.
K
K
There
were
no
new
disclosures
this
year
in
the
financial
statements
like
I
said
that
supplementary
information
will
will
contain
budgetary
comparisons
for
all
of
the
various
funds
and
combining
statements
to
show
you
what
is
rolling
up
into
those
numbers
in
the
front.
There's
also
a
statistical
information
section.
K
We
also
issue
a
couple
of
compliance
reports
in
conjunction
with
the
audit,
so
there's
a
single
audit
that
is
performed
every
year
and
that's
because
the
county
spends
more
than
750
000
of
of
money
that
originates
at
the
federal
level.
So
this
year
the
counties
Federal
expenditures
were
I,
think
they
were
over
9
million,
maybe
close
to
nine
and
a
half
million.
K
So
we
do
compliance
work
there.
We're
required
to
select
based
on
various
criteria,
certain
grants
that
we
look
at
specifically,
and
one
of
the
grants
was
a
covid
tracing
grant
that
we
looked
at.
We
did
have
one
finding
on
that,
and
so
we've
been
working
with
the
health
department
on
that
they're,
providing
a
corrective
action
plan.
So
that
will
be
addressed
that
way
and
then
we
also
do
a
circuit
clerk
compliance
audit
and
the
aoic
changed
some
of
the
reporting
requirements
on
that.
K
It
made
it
much
more
detailed
and
there's
additional
reports
that
are
included.
So
we
have
those
completed
or
the
circuit
clerk
completed
them
and
we've
audited
them
they're,
not
all
final
and
rolled
up
into
really
pretty
report,
but
essentially
the
work
is
done
and
we
did
not
have
any
findings
there.
K
Those
were
the
highlights
that
I
had
so
I
just
want
to
thank
the
County
board
for
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
do
your
audit
and
I
want
to
do
a
special
thank
you
to
the
finance
department
and
all
the
remaining
department
heads
who
cooperate
with
us,
and
we
always
have
very,
very
good
luck
with
dealing
with
all
the
department
heads
and
no
difficulties
everybody's
very
responsive.
So
we
definitely
appreciate
that.
Does
anybody
have
any
other
questions?
Questions.
L
You
very
much
Mr
chairman,
you
I,
don't
know
if
there
were
highlights,
but
you
did
a
pretty
good
job
with
specificity.
A
couple
things
you
mentioned:
we
took
a
hit
with
respect
to
the
health
department.
As
you
well
know,
they
have
their
own
board
and
I.
Guess
we
still
accountable
for
that
and
you're
pleased
with
the
corrective
action
plan
that
they've
submitted
or
yes,
okay,
could
you
could
you
go
into
detail
you?
You
said
it
was
covet.
K
K
Jackie
knows
more
about
this,
so
she's
nodding
me
on
there
were
technology
upgrades
that
they
wanted
to
make
through
one
of
these
grants
and
what
happened
were
there
were
significant
supply
chain
issues,
so
they
did
not
receive
and
all
of
that
equipment
and
have
it
installed
by
the
end
of
the
grant
period
and
therefore
the
grants
would
say:
well,
if
you
don't
have
the
stuff
I'm
not
going
to
give
you
the
money.
So
there
was
a
little
bit
of
that
going
on
so
that,
as
of
today,
that
health
department
has
paid
back
those
funds.
L
K
K
Able
so
that
was
a
common
thing.
That's
been
happening
with
these
grants
at
the
federal
level.
They
say
you
have
to
have
it
obligated
by
the
end
of
the
grant
period
and
then
spent
within
a
certain
amount
of
days
after
that
and
with
all
the
supply
chain
issues,
they
thought
they
were
going
to
get
some
of
it
and
they
didn't
and
it
ends
up
that
they
still
don't
even
have
some
of
it.
L
J
J
H
Chairman
wheeler,
thank
you
Mr
chairman
I,
guess
in
Steve
originally
turned
around
to
ask
me.
You
know:
why
is
the
health
department
on
our
audit
since
they're
a
separate
fund
with
their
own
board
and
they
handle
their
own
building
and
their
own
Grant
Management?
Why?
Why
would
we
have
an
audit
finding
for
something
that
occurred
there
and
I?
Guess
that's
what
the
question
is,
and
they
haven't
had
to
hear
this
because
we
don't
get
these.
K
So,
under
under
government
accounting
standards,
they
have
a
standard
that
defines
the
reporting
entity.
For
you
know
financial
statements,
so
the
health
department
would
probably
be
considered
a
component
unit,
although
it
doesn't
technically
meet
the
standards
of
their
definition
of
a
component
unit.
They
are
not
legally
separate
from
you.
They
cannot
be.
They
cannot
own
property
separate
from
the
county.
They
I,
don't
there's
other
criteria
like
can
they
be
yeah?
Can
they
issue
their
own
debt?
K
Things
like
that,
and
they
were
created
at
the
pleasure
of
the
board
originally
under
State
Statute,
so
they
still
fall
under
the
reporting
umbrella
of
the
county.
Now
you
do
have
another
component
unit
that
falls
under
the
county
and
that
does
meet
the
official
definition
and
that's
the
public
building
commission.
K
The
debt
that
they
have
right
now
is
is
all
the
counties
debt
so
because,
really
right
now
they
exist
for
the
benefit
of
the
county.
They
are
a
blended
component
unit,
so
their
numbers
actually
get
rolled
up.
Also
in
your
report,
they're
in
some
of
those
special
funds
that
roll
up
in
those
non-major
funds
and
the
health
department
rolls
up
in
a
non-major
fund
as
well
they're,
not
large
enough
to
meet
the
criteria
to
be
a
major
fund.
K
H
And
I
guess
the
last
thing
for
the
committee's
sake.
A
similar
situation
happened
with
this
other
Grant,
we're
talking
about
with
courts
and
supply
chain
they
had
to
prepay,
and
then
it
didn't
show
up
so
we're
looking
for
some
paperwork
on
that.
It's
another
internal
controls
thing,
but
it
was
at
the
behest
of
the
courts.
The
Supreme
Court
said
order
this
now
or
pay
us
now.
So
it's
a
really
weird
situation
where
they
they
put
us
in
a
bind
on
their
own
brain.
K
Yes,
so
basically,
that
finding
reap
whoops
relates
to
how
it's
reported
in
the
financial
statements.
Technically,
the
county
outlayed
the
cash
for
the
improvements
before
the
installation
and
equipment
was
provided
so
under
accounting
standards.
That
would
be
like
a
prepaid
expense
and
then
the
revenue
would
be
recognized
when
you
finally
receive
all
of
those
services.
So
that
was
the
reporting
part
of
it.
Now
the
compliance
piece
was
kind
of
the
same
thing.
I
referred
to
with
the
health
department,
but
if
aoic
says
no,
that's
how
we
wanted
it.
That's
okay!
K
H
Hope
it
helps
the
committee
because
they'll
see
it,
it
looks
worse
than
it
is,
if
you
will,
especially
since
they
called
us
up
on
the
grant
manager
for
ayc,
got
a
hold
of
us
days
within
the
expiration
of
the
Grant
and
said
pay
for
this
or
else
you're
losing
it
well.
Some
of
the
equipment's
still
not
here
yeah
and
we
weren't
advised
that
this
wasn't
here.
It
was
like
pay,
the
grant,
you
know
pay
the
bill
like
if
they
were
receiving
it.
So.
J
J
That's
where
some
of
this
comes
into
play,
so
we're
going
to
take
another
step
and
reach
out
and
ask
more
questions
and
try
to
get
more
feedback
specifically
for
the
capital,
Grant
activity,
because
the
supply
chain
or
other
things
that
could
interrupt
a
project
and
potentially
put
it
past
the
date.
So
we're
going
to
implement
that
and
try
to
make
sure
you
know
that
doesn't
happen,
and
so
the
communication
flows
both
ways.
F
K
A
Any
other
questions
from
the
committee
I
actually
have
one
question
so
you're
talking
about
rent,
you
can
go
ahead
and
tell
if
we're
paying
too
high
for
rent
or
if
we're
not
charging
enough
for
rent
I
just
saw
in
our
in
our
monthly
claims
that,
like
the
VAC,
is
paying
2
400
a
month
for
the
Bourbonnais
Place.
Could
you
go
ahead
and
do
analysis
on
that?
For
us.
K
We
did
an
analysis
on
that
and
it
did
fall
below
the
threshold
of
like
the
quality,
Quant
quantitative,
materiality
limits
for
the
financial
statements,
so
for
cost
benefit
purposes.
The
finance
department
and
chairman
wheeler
decided.
It
was
best
to
just
continue
without
the
complicated
accounting
for.
J
On
the
subject,
I
want
to
thank
all
the
Departments
as
well
for
providing
us
information
for
the
stat
report
and
other
information.
So
you
know
we.
We
were
kind
of
joking
a
little
bit
internally,
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
goes
into
the
stat
reports
that
are
at
the
end
of
the
the
report
and
where
our
joke
was
Does.
J
J
Both
of
them
did
a
great
job,
I
had
to
jump
in
and
do
the
mdna
and
help
with
the
MDA
and
the
stat
reports,
and
this
is
all
brand
new
information,
and
so
they
did
a
great
job
and
it's
kind
of
a
baptism
by
fire.
Another
thing
in
a
sense
because
it
has
to
be
done
within
a
certain
period
of
time,
so
we
can
get
all
the
filing
done.
J
J
So
I
won't
spend
a
lot
of
time
unless
people
have
questions-
and
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
today
on
other
things,
for
the
reports
quickly.
The
sales
tax
is
coming
in
nice
and
and
in
addition
to
last
year,
higher
than
last
year,
a
couple
areas,
income
taxes
slowed
down.
Some
we
knew
the
pprt
was
going
to
slow
down,
but
we've
actually
collected
this
more
in
FY
23
than
we
haven't.
G
J
H
Just
just
more
of
a
comment:
we
were
looking
at
Bed
rental
projections
to
try
to
decide
what
types
of
infrastructure
I
want
to
say
upgrades,
but
repairs
need
to
be
done
on
the
old
jail
I.
At
one
point,
we're
saying
you
know
if,
when
when
ice
was
shifted
out
of
state,
what's
going
to
happen,
we
we
were
replaced
for
the
we've
replaced
the
beds,
if
you
will,
but
it's
at
a
less
and
lower
rate.
H
So
at
some
point
this
committee
is
probably
going
to
see
a
proposal
a
bid
for
to
approve
a
somewhat
of
a
sizable
expenditure
to
reseal
all
of
the
windows.
It's
leaking
like
a
sieve
over
there
and
we
need
to
seal
all
these
windows
and
replace
them
so
that
that
the
the
bid
process
is
going
to
probably
begin.
I
just
didn't
want
a
surprise
there,
because
it's
not
going
to
be
a
little
bit
of
money,
but
the
revenue
is
is
more
than
there
to
achieve.
H
J
E
J
E
A
E
Out
to
the
auditor,
so
it's
backwards:
okay,
yeah
and-
and
he
let
me
know
that
this
wasn't
technically
not
recommended,
but
and
I
didn't
go
back
and
forth.
But
the
question
is:
if
you
just
throw
questions
out
into
the
ether,
how
do
they
get
answered
right
and
if
you
have
those
questions,
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
answer
them.
Just
shoot
me
an
email
and
then
you
don't
have
to
write
it
on
on
Steve's
claim,
and
then
it
goes
through
this
rigmarole
where
we
don't
know.
J
If
it's
exactly
and
to
take
care
of
the
vendor,
you
know
I
mean
we
have
to
take
care
and
pay
our
vendors,
and
if
we
wouldn't,
we
see
those
and
we're
the
only
ones
that
reach
out
to
try
to
keep
the
communication
going
to
get
the
answers
to
get
the
vendors
paid.
So,
as
chairman
Wheeler's
we're
not
trying
to
be
a
secretary
or
any
do
anything
for
the
Otters
office,
we're
trying
to
take
care
of
the
vendor,
that's
our
main
focus
is
take
care
of
the
vendor
because
otherwise
it
would
stop
you
know.
E
E
A
H
Wheeler
briefly,
the
state
statute
that
must
be
followed
and
is
not
says
that
the
auditor
must
approve
or
not
approve
all
claims
made
against
the
county
by
not
signing
the
form.
That
is
not
approving
a
claim.
It
has
to
be
signed
off
on
so
he's
for
him
to
say
he's
not
approving
or
disapproving
it
actually
is
completely
wrong.
H
H
D
A
J
First
one
we
left
on
the
agenda,
but
it's
still
a
work
in
progress,
so
there's
nothing
that
can
be
voted
on
we're
still
awaiting
tax
information.
We
we
thought
we
might
have
it
be
able
to
have
a
recommendation,
but
unfortunately
we
do
not
so
we'll
have
to
continue
on
that
one
for
a
future,
a
future
date.
Okay,.
J
J
We've
asked
for
tax
forms.
The
tax
forms
did
not
support
from
the
financial
side,
I
guess
similar
to
the
arcading
business
that
we
approved.
You
know
for
items
for
the
business-wise
and
all
they
provided
was
building
information
and
arpa
does
not
allow
for
new
building
construction.
Just
you
know
it.
It's
not
part
of
that.
So
since
that
single
they
took,
I
did
communicate
with
them
and
ask
them.
J
A
H
K
A
J
G
H
This
is
the:
how
do
I
put
this
above
the
Dame.
You
see
a
lot
of
rescue
boats,
we'll
still
have
one
we're
helping
them
out
with
a
rescue
hydrofoil
boat,
just
like
Aroma
Township
got.
This
is
for
the
unfortunate
when
something
happens
above
the
dam.
It
floats
down
the
river,
and
this
is
for
body
recovery,
and
things
like
that,
so
I
just
wanted
to.
Let
people
know
that
this
is
an
essential
part
of
the
river
Continuum.
A
Out
there,
thank
you,
Mr
chairman
can
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
20
225.26
for
their
grapple
boat
repair.
Oh
reimbursement
motion
by
Miss
Polk
second,
by
Mr
long
can
I
have
a
Voice
vote.
All
in
favor,
say:
aye
opposed
right
motion
carries
gonna,
have
a
motion
to
come
by
and
approve
the
arpa
reports
motion
by
Mr
Donald
second
by
Mr
Swanson
any
other
discussion,
if
not
real
call.
A
D
L
H
If
there's
a
Mr
Hunter,
if
you
would
like
to
speak
to
any
of
this,
I
can
I
can
tee
it
up
for
everybody
if
you
like.
So
chairman,
the
thank
you.
The
first
cover
page
in
there
is
just
like
all
the
other
ones
that
we
have
sent
to
the
board.
If
there
is
a
recommendation,
and
so
to
start
off
with,
we
were
recommending
approval
of
this
in
a
modified
amount
of
186
965.
H
H
Are
we
getting
people,
mostly
from
the
north
and
east
side
of
Kankakee,
in
Hopkins
Park,
engaging
in
first
assessing
what
they
like
to
do,
what
they're
good
at
and
then
what
either
vocational
Career,
Center
or
KCC
Prairie
State
all
the
different
colleges?
What
coursework
supports
what
they're
either
gonna
want
to
try
to
approach
in
whatever
venue
that
that
might
end
up
being
so
our
vocation
should
I
say
so:
it's
just
not
a
college
degree
program
or
certificate
program.
It
could
be
or
excuse
me
it
could
be
a
certificate.
H
It
could
be
an
entryway
into
the
diesel
program
that
we've
already
funded.
It
could
be
something
that
exists
at
our
jail
for
people
that
are
getting
out,
and
you
know,
there's
there's
lots
of
different
things
that
we're
looking
at,
but
it's
really
accessing
those
communities,
mainly
of
color
that
have
not
taken
advantage
of
for
whatever
reason
that
assessment
and
then
connecting
that
to
what's
available
locally
and
regionally.
So
I
hope,
I,
explain
that
properly
Mr
Hunter
yeah.
L
H
L
You
Mr
Mr
chairman,
very
valuable,
thorough
review
of
of
the
approval
process
in
terms
of
cutting
back
on
contractual
Services.
Some
other
areas,
travel,
Etc,
there's
going
to
be
a
finite
review
of
the
activities
and
the
assessment
and
given
assurances.
If
things
go
well,
we'll
be
able
to
provide
the
additional
funds
with
scrutinization
for
kccsi.
As
the
chairman
indicated,
Reverend
Clark
came
to
the
chairman
and
regarding
the
voucher
program
and
I
think
you
guys
agreed
that
we
kicked
I
think
up
front
that
was
at
33.
000.
L
H
Another
two
years
we
want
to
see
the
funnel
get
filled.
You
know
and
then
determining
what
success
looks
like
that'll,
be
more
of
a
conversation
because
obviously
you're
not
going
to
get
people
into
a
four-year
degree
degree
program
and
graduated
before
the
end.
So
that's
not
a
metric,
but
are
they
moving
down
that
path?
How
many
people
do
we
get
to
show
up
to
these
events
with
the
mobile
RV
unit,
where
they're
bringing
it
to
the
churches
and
the
community
out
there?
Instead
of
making
people
come
all
the
way
to
KCC?
That's
that's
really.
H
The
the
goal
behind
really
everything
we've
tried
to
do
here
is
with
the
arbor.
Money
is
to
connect,
people
that
are
are
could
meet
where
their
services
could
be
handed
off
from
one
to
the
other,
and
a
lot
of
people
took
advantage
of
it,
and
I
will
see.
Kcc,
SI
and
KCC
both
grab
the
opportunity
to
work
together,
which
is
important.
L
Too,
just
to
piggyback
on
it
as
well
too
I
mean
they're.
They're
were
Frank
conversations
with
kccsi
and
and
KCC,
with
respect
to
Services
being
provided,
availability
and
I
think
it
was
a
viable
venue.
You
know
for
them
to
have
a
meeting
of
the
minds
and
come
up
with
a
good
work
product
and
a
good
plan.
So
you
know
kudos
to
Reverend
Clark
as
as
well
as
Dr
Boyd.
J
H
Sure
you
know
and
I'd
have
to
I'd
have
to
take
a
look
and-
and
maybe
we
put
those
on
for
the
full
board,
you
know
I
think
we
can,
but
things
like
textbooks.
We
should
pay
for
up
front.
You
know,
because
you
know
we
could
we
could.
We
could,
you
know,
cut
a
check
for
textbook
because
they
have
to
be
used
at
the
event.
The
travel,
the
workshop
stuff
could
be
reimbursement,
But
realize
this
is
a
cash
poor
organization.
H
They
get
grant
money
in,
they
spend
it
all.
And
if
because,
if
you
don't
spend
it,
you
don't
get
it
the
next
year.
So
we
have
to
be
cognizant
of
that
and
work
with
them
as
much
as
we
can
on
this
aspect.
But
you
know
the
the
the
the
the
difference
here
is:
is
we're
going
to
have
an
agent
auditing,
the
receipts
and
the
expenditures?
So
if
we
see
you
know,
like
you
know
the
normal
expenses,
that's
one
thing
we
start
to
and
we
won't.
H
A
D
H
H
If
we
were
to
go
down
this
road
I
think
you
should
make
a
determination
as
a
board
when
it's
a
kind
of
a
clean
slate
once
they
know
what
they're
doing
what
their
funding
is
going
to
be,
how
their
business
model
is
set
up,
and
then
we
can
revisit
that.
That
would
be,
and
that
was
a
committee
recommendation,
that
this
one
needs
to
kind
of
just
sit
off
on
the
table
until
but
not
not
a
denial.
Just
come
back
when
you
got
it
together
can.
A
H
In
the
fact
that
the
as
you
see
in
there
we're
also
recommending
tabling
just
to
re
reiterate,
we
don't
make
the
decision.
Steve
doesn't
make
the
decisions,
this
committee
and
the
board
does
we
just
recommend
and
they
can
go
outside
if
they
if
they
wish.
But
in
this
case
we
didn't
not
get
what
we
consider
key
pieces
of
information
to
be
able
to
judge
the
effectiveness
of
the
program.
H
It's
a
wonderful
organization,
it's
a
great
idea,
but
we're
waiting
on
some
key
information
to
figure
out
the
partnership
that
needs
to
exist
in
order
to
make
this
happen
within
the
environment,
they're
working.
So
I.
Guess,
if
there's
any
other
comment
there
Steve,
you
know
from
the
committee.
Cara
was
in
those
meetings
as
well,
so
she
can
comment
if
she
has
Miss
Weber.
F
A
A
A
E
E
She
talks
about
the
fact
that
they
were
put
in
the
mail
and
due
dates
are
the
28th
of
June.
It's
the
first
due
date.
Second,
due
date
is
September
6th
and
you
can
still
pay
multiple
payments
if
you
want
so
we're
getting
ready
for
the
the
crush
of
people
and
I.
Think
it's
important
to
note
that
the
easiest
really
the
easiest
way
to
pay
the
tax.
Your
taxes
is
to
pay
them
at
a
bank
drive
through
and
you
don't
have
to
be
a
member
of
the
bank.
E
So
you
can
go
to
any
bank
that
has
a
drive-through.
Everybody
takes
our
taxes
except
PNC,
so
you
can
go
to
any
Bank,
whether
you're
a
member
there
or
not,
and
pay
your
taxes
in
the
drive-through.
So
that's
the
easiest
way.
Of
course
you
can
mail
them
in
you
can
come
here.
You
can
use
the
Dropbox
outside.
E
E
If
they
don't
take
our
tax
and
work
with
us,
it
doesn't
really
make
sense
for
us
to
give
our
business
to
them
absolutely
I,
guess
a
a
bit
of
good
news
is
and
I
think
Steve.
Steve
probably
knows
the
answer
to
this.
The
arpa
funding
I
believe
Steve
is
we
by
law.
We
are
allowed
to
keep
the
interest,
and
so
we
are
probably
right
now
and
I
can
get
you
an
exact
number.
E
It
fluctuates,
of
course,
but
we're
about
30
to
35
000
a
month
right
now
we're
making
on
interest,
which
is
something
that
hasn't
happened
frankly,
since
I
was
elected,
so
I'm
pretty
happy
about
that,
and
just
for
in
case
anybody
is
interested
as
of
right.
Today,
Illinois
funds
is
paying
us
5.13
on
a
daily
basis
and,
of
course,
that
changes
every
day,
but
today
is
5.13.
E
We
just
hired
a
bilingual
summer
worker,
so
I
mean
we're
really
happy
about
that.
There's
a
a
new
video
sign
at
our
office
in
the
front
of
our
office.
When
you
head
down,
you
can
see
it.
If
anybody
knows
of
something
that's
Community
oriented
that
needs
to
be
advertised,
certainly
we
would
consider
putting
something
up
while
the
people
are
here
paying
their
taxes.
E
E
Her
property
was
eventually
sold
and
disposed
of
for
35,
000
I
think
and
she
owed
fifteen
thousand,
and
it
appears
that
the
Supreme
Court
is
going
to
rule
on
her
side,
which
essentially
will
say
that
the
that
a
municipality
or
a
county
or
a
government
entity
cannot
profit
from
the
sale
of
a
piece
of
property.
They
can
recoup
their
fifteen
thousand.
But
if
there's
money
above
and
beyond
that,
it
has
to
go
back
to
the
taxpayer.
E
Looking
back,
it
doesn't
happen
very
often
here,
but
it
has
and
it
typically
and
I
you
know,
a
lot
of
things
are
still
in
flux.
We
don't
know
which
way
things
will
go,
but
it
would.
Our
trustee
would
probably
our
kinky
County,
trustee,
Joseph,
Meyer
and
Associates
would
probably
be
our
best
resource
at
at
the
end
of
the
day.
How
we
go
from
here.
The
big
question
is
how
far
back,
if
they
rule
in
her
favor,
how
far
back
does
this
go?.
E
E
E
Deal
with
it,
because
you
know
fees,
it'll,
probably
end
up
hurting
people
that
actually
redeem
their
taxes
because
they
get
sold
the
lien
gets
sold,
but
they
redeem
because
I
would
imagine
the
legislature
will
put
really
large
fees,
for
you
know
for
a
way
to
continue
to
make
the
dollar
value
go
up,
but
yeah
Sandy.
It
has
it'll,
have
some
serious
consequences
on
lots
of
things
and
and
land
bank
being
one
of
them.
We're.
H
Just
and
so
the
committee
knows,
the
land
bank
would
acquire
a
property
outside
of
the
tax
sale.
It
could
be
condemnation,
it
could
be
all
these
different
Avenues
people
have
over
a
million
dollars
in
liens
because
they
haven't
done
X
wires,
either
their
property,
those
all
get
wiped
away.
The
land
bank,
then,
can
have
a
developer,
redevelop
it
and
the
spread
from
what
they
acquired
it
for
in
legal
fees
and
what
they've
sold
it
to
that
developer.
E
The
argument
might
be
Apples
to
Apples
right
if
it's
a
property
that
you
took
and
then
you
just
put
it
on
the
market
and
sold
it
it
wouldn't
you
know,
may
not
have
you
know
we
sell
tons
of
Surplus
properties
at
opening
bit
of
like
800,
but
there
have
been
properties,
we've
sold
for
twenty
thousand
and
when
you
get
into
the
higher
value
you
know
that's
when
you
that's
when
it
becomes
more
difficult,
there's
a
lot
of
properties
that
people
don't
bid
on.
Yes,.
A
Hold
on
really
quick
I
have
a
question
so
with
the
tax
sale.
So
when
you
don't
go
ahead
and
pay
your
property
taxes
and
somebody
puts
interest
on
your
since
you
didn't
go
ahead
and
pay
your
property
tax.
Do
you
think
that
the
Supreme
Court's
gonna
go
ahead
and
say
you
can't
go
ahead
and
put
that
much
interest
on
it?
Are
they
going
to
go
ahead
and
cap
that
or
are
they
going
to
the
state
level
they
go
ahead
and
make
that
decision.
E
E
H
E
It's
a
terrible,
it's
terrible
eyes,
sorry
for
the
crossroads
of
the
community
yeah,
you
know,
and
I
should
mention
in
in
regards
to
the
land
bank.
I
have
taken
one
of
my
staff
members
and
they
will
be
attending
all
Land
Bank
meetings,
so
we'll
coordinate
and
I've
been
coordinating
with
Dr
Crawford
and
chairman
Sanford
to
work
with
them
as
best
we
can
very
good
anybody
else
enjoy
this
beautiful
weather
inside.