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Finance Committee Meeting 9/29/2021 9:00 AM
A
A
C
Hi,
my
name
is
dr
kent.
Fry
I've
lived
here
for
30
years.
I
come
here
with
no
affiliation
with
any
body,
I'm
not
here
to
talk
about
the
vaccination,
the
legality
of
the
mandate
or
any
religious
exemption.
I've
never
done
this
before
I'm
here
to
represent
my
my
fellow
health
care
workers
who
have
chosen
not
to
take
the
vaccine
for
various
reasons.
C
We've
dealt
with
staff
shortages
for
my
entire
career.
This
is
nothing
new,
but
this
is
kind
of
unprecedented
we're
trying
to
we're
thinking
we're
going
to
staff
this
with
volunteers
and
retirees
and
some
foreign
workers,
and
we
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
that,
but
we're
getting
ready
to
face
a
shortage.
C
What
I
want
to
talk
with
you
all
about
is
the
finances
of
this
all
right,
there's
going
to
be
on
there's
a
cost
of
the
ongoing
copic
crisis
and
y'all
control
some
of
the
purse
strings
in
our
county.
All
I
ask
is
that
you
give
considerations
to
those
workers
who
came
to
work
in
19,
2020
and
2021,
with
no
vaccine
shortage
of
ppe,
very
little
treatments
and
a
fair
amount
of
fear,
and
they
were
merely
told
to
use
hand
sanitizers
before
they
went
home
to
their
families
all
right.
They
did
this
for
two
years.
C
I
ask
you
that
they
need
help
too,
especially
in
life.
The
fact
that
they're
told
they're
not
going
to
get
unemployment,
so
I'm
here
to
represent
my
health
care
workers
who
are
going
to
be
sent
home
and
have
no
no
means,
and
if
we
get
some
pandemic
money
type
thing,
I
would
ask
that
your
consideration
that
would
use
that
for
that
group
of
people
as
well.
A
Thank
you.
Moving
on
under
approval
of
minutes
august
25th,
2021
they're
not
ready,
yet
we
had
a
kind
of
a
full
meeting.
The
last
time,
if
you
remember
like
marathon,
so
we're
getting
those
together
and
they'll
be,
hopefully
maybe
full
board
we're
shooting
for
on
those
very
at
the
very
least
next
month
under
presentations,
we
have
just
great
fun
today
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
insurance,
no
offense.
A
This
is
this
is
not
too
interesting
unless
you
really
dive
into
the
numbers,
and
then
god
help
you
then
you're
like
me,
and
mike
lynch
and
anita
and
steve,
we
go
into
the
detail,
but
we
got.
We
got
hit
pretty
hard
so
mike.
If
you
want
to
join
us,
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
sit
up
over
here
or
right
in
the
front,
so
you
can
project
a
little
bit.
It's
up
to
you
where
you
want
to
be
but
yeah.
A
So
we
have
some.
He
has
a
presentation
to
talk
about
kind
of
what
happened
this
past
year
and
then
what
our
renewal
looks
like
and
the
steps
that
we're
already
taking
and
that
we'll
need
to
take
over
the
next
really
15-20
days
in
order
to
meet
our
deadlines
on
loading,
this
information
into
our
web
benz
computer
system.
So
please,
mike.
E
E
This
is
what
is
called
an
executive
summary
out
of
the
blue
cross
blue
shield
monthly
reports.
This
is
through
831
and
it's
approximately
the
same
data.
The
underwriters
would
have
used
when
they
formulated
the
renewal,
so
at
the
top
you
can
see
it
says
the
overall
paid
expense
per
member
per
month,
increased
by
a
total
of
15
or
57
percent
between
two
reporting
periods,
one
of
which
is
this
year.
The
other
one
is
last
year.
E
The
service
categories
that
they're
discussing
here
is
outpatient
facility,
use
that
increased
by
a
hundred
percent
individually,
that
is
1.8
percent
higher
than
the
blue
cross
blue
shield
benchmark.
That's
the
business
that
all
their
business
over
the
board
below
that
you'll
see
inpatient
per
member
per
month,
increased
34.15,
they
break
it
down
into
medical
and
surgical.
The
medical
increased
by
100
percent
outpatient
paid
dollars
per
member
per
month,
increased
100
percent
there
we're
talking
about
pharmacy
and
iv
therapy
and
surgical.
E
E
The
next
two
categories:
medical
paid
increased
by
66-
and
I
note
again
here-
that's
eight
percent
higher
than
the
blue
cross
blue
shield
benchmark
overall.
Last
but
not
least,
the
pharmacy
increased
by
26
and
between
the
two
reporting
periods
below
that
it.
It
just
outlines
the
four
top
diagnostic
categories:
neoplasms,
which
is
a
cancer
circulatory
symptoms,
they'll
define
muscular
skeleton.
E
So,
if
you'd
like
to
go
into
the
third
page
in
the
packet
you'll
see
that
there
are
two
columns,
eight
in
total
you'll
see
on
the
left
side
of
that
page.
The
current
means
that
that's
what
the
blue
cross
price
is
in
that
plan
and
then
next
to
it
is
the
renewal
and
you'll
see
it
has
gone
up
18
and,
as
you
go
across
the
board,
there's
four
plans.
E
Basically,
and
if
you
look
below
the
last
chocolate
box
there,
it
says
the
current
annual
total
is
4846
568.40
and
this
renewal
at
18
percent
would
cause
the
county.
It's
it's
right.
The
difference
between
the
two
is
872
000
and
of
that
the
county
increase
would
be
about
654
000.
That's
the
75
percent
figure
that
the
county
pays
versus
the
25
figure
that
the
individuals
pay
so
overall
872
400
and
then
of
the
county
share
at
654..
E
F
Right,
okay,
so
I
mean,
if
you
look
at
the
four
plans,
predominantly
89
of
our
employees
take
that
last
box.
That
is,
the
thousand
dollar
deductible
plan.
Many
of
our
employees
live
paycheck
to
paycheck,
so
what
they
want
to
know
every
when
we
come
out
with
the
renewal
and
when
they
make
their
insurance.
F
You
know
decision
during
open,
enrollment
they're
wondering
how
much
is
it
going
to
be
off
my
paycheck?
And
can
I
afford
it?
So
that's
why
what
I
did
there
was
say:
okay,
so
if
75,
the
654
is
the
share
paid
by
the
county,
what
are
our
employees
going
to
see
per
paycheck
and
that
information
is
given
to
them
on
the
open,
enrollment
tool
and
they're
going
to
see
that
and
that's
how
they're
going
to
decide
what
they
can
afford?
F
A
I
just
want
to
make
sure:
does
everybody
get
what
we're
talking
about
here?
The
county
pays
75
of
the
insurance.
The
employee
pays
25
percent.
It's
across
to
all.
I
there's
different
arrangement
in
9-1-1,
but
they
handle
that
over
there.
So
that's
our
increases
at
654.
That's
what
hits
our
budget
over
last
year.
E
A
E
E
E
You
have
the
blue
cross
price
and
at
below
you've
got
10
singles
five
employees
plus
spouse,
employee
plus
child
and
families,
and
you
see
the
renewal
price
on
the
left
side
and
if
you
go
to
the
next
box
it
it's
showing
you,
the
united
health
care
core
network,
which
is
about
three
tenths
of
one
percent
lower
than
what
the
blue
cross
price
is
in
the
next
box.
The
same
thing
is
applicable
I'll,
just
stay
in
the
bottom
boxes.
E
If
you
will,
but
I'll
I'll
tell
you
in
the
left
column
it's
renewal
and
in
the
right
column,
it's
their
other
network
called
choice
plus,
as
andy
said,
to
begin
with
drilling
down
in
some
of
the
weeds
here.
This
gets
monotonous,
but
united
healthcare
has
two
networks,
as
opposed
to
blue
cross
having
one
network,
the
choice
plus
network
is
the
one
that
is
most
closely
associated
with
the
blue
cross
network.
G
Can
you
also
provide
us
with
a
written
narrative
which
would
help
as
well
too
and
we're
looking
at
these
numbers
and
stuff
we're
jumping
over
and
stuff?
That
would
really
help.
In
terms
of
you
know
the
stuff
that
anita
presented
makes
sense.
It
makes
sense,
because
you
know
our
employees
gonna
come
to
us
and
ask
us
about
this
stuff.
If
we
have
that
stuff
in
written
language,
you
know
we'll
be
more
adept
in
terms
of
making
a
determination.
E
Do
that
this
is
really
the
first
draft
of
this
coming
to
the
finance
committee,
and
so
in
the
next
round,
we'll
get
something
written
up
for
you,
but
again,
all
the
way
across
the
page.
The
left
box
indicates
the
renewal.
The
right
box
indicates
another
network
choice
from
united
healthcare
and,
if
you
want
to
get
to
the
bottom
line
on
the
left
side
of
the
page
below
all
of
the
colored
boxes,
you'll
see
one
figure
at
four
million:
eight
hundred
thousand
eleven
or
eight
hundred
eleven
thousand.
E
That
is
the
current
annual
cost
of
blue
cross.
The
next
box
is
the
blue
cross
increase
at
18
percent
and
the
last
number
there
is
5
million
o
37,
and
it
boils
down
to
that
last
box.
That
anita
was
talking
about
prior
to
this.
This
is
the
core
plan
with
all
of
the
employees
in
the
thousand
dollar
deductible
plan.
E
E
E
E
If
you
will
between
you,
know
the
choice
of
the
individual,
so
people
could
pick
if
they
wanted
a
plan
that
had
the
university
of
chicago
in
it,
which
can
be
important
because
we
researched
this
and
there
were
14
people
who
had
something
over
43
claims
at
the
university
of
chicago
last
year
and
I
believe
they
were
all
categorized
as
either
diabetes
or
cancer
stricken
children.
So
it
is
important.
So
you
know
it
boils
down
to
something
to
include
that.
E
So
the
united
health
care,
if
we
use
that
so
we'll,
have
to
go
back
and
do
further
studies
and
we're
still
working
with
united
healthcare
to
see
if
there
are
any
more
options
we
can
include,
but
andy
wanted
to.
Overall,
you
know
just
here's
where
we're
at
today
now
I
think
we
can
save
some
money,
but
you
know
to
what
degree
and
again
I
will
be
happy
to
put
the
narrative
together
and
we
won't
have
four
sheets,
the
next
time
it'll
probably
boil
down
to
two
sheets.
E
How
does
it
come
down
between
united
healthcare
and
blue
cross?
But
right
now,
if
I
had
a
sense
of
where
we're
going
with
this,
it
would
be
the
five
plans
against
the
one
plan
of
blue
cross,
including
core
and
choice
plus
in
that
five
options,
and
we
could
probably
save
some
money.
But
right
now
it's
about
who
would
choose
what.
A
We'd
be
upside
down
if
everybody
chose
the
choice
plus
network
right,
that's
the
conundrum
so
and
there's
no
way
of
knowing
until
you
know,
so
that
that's
kind
of
a
the
situation
we're
in
right
now
and
as
I
talked
to
to
mike
we're,
also
thinking
that
it
might
be
the
time
to
re-look
at
the
hra
with
option
as
well
and
assume
a
little
bit
more
risk
for
a
higher
deductible
for
the
county.
We
just
have
to
run
those
numbers
as
well
and
we'll
need
a
little
bit
more
time.
A
The
hra
is
not
going
to
be
what
existed
back
in
2014
and
15.
It
would
be
all
integral
with
the
health
plan.
I
will
be
a
third
party
administrator
with
checks
flying
around
and
all
that
other
mess
that
we
dealt
with
back
then
it
would
be.
You
know
your
deductible
would
turn
off
and
then
turn
back
on.
Basically,
at
the
end
of
that
time,
period.
E
E
E
A
A
You
know,
there's
there's
those
issues
to
think
about.
So
we
like
to
map
those
out
ahead
of
time,
because
it's
not
just
a
financial
decision,
it's
first
a
financial
decision.
Then
it
becomes
the
employee's
financial
decision.
But
then
networks
are
all
tied
to
that.
So
we
got
a
little
bit
more
time,
but
we
don't
have
a
lot
a
bit
more
time.
A
It's
probably
going
to
take
some
sort
of
special
meeting
to
get
this
done,
because
we
have
to
get
this
loaded
into
the
web
benefits
and
they
want
60
days,
which
I
think
is
kind
of
ludicrous
to
be
honest,
60
days
to
upload
all
of
this
stuff,
but
it
has
to
be
hidden
for
our
employees
during
open
enrollment
on
12
and
that's
the
key
for
anita.
So
we
can't
we
we
can't
be
delayed.
You
know
on
this.
So
wow
it
puts
us
under
the
gun,
but
that's
kind
of
what
we're
here.
For
so.
E
Reporting
from
blue
cross,
which
shows
you
know
in
each
plan
how
much
of
the
deductible
was
satisfied?
How
much
of
the
out
of
pocket
was
satisfied?
We
can
look
at
those
and
then
try
to
estimate
how
much
hra
dollars
are.
You
know
we
don't
want
to
go
upside
down
and
reimburse
more
dollars
than
we
think
that
we
can
save
is,
is
the
bottom
line,
so
it's.
A
Basically,
partial
self
insurance
with
a
safety
net
that
stops
at
7
500
bucks,
which
is
a
which
is
a
good
tactic.
If
there's
enough
money
in
that
pool
to
cover
off
those
claims,
we're
paying
between
a
thousand
and
seventy
five
hundred,
usually
that
number's
around
twenty
percent.
I
think
the
last
number
we
hit
when
we
had
an
hra
was
thirty,
which
was
not
good.
You
know
we
were
right
up
on
the
edge
of
having
to
kick
more
money
back
into
the
hra
out
of
out
of
the
general
fund.
Was
that
I'm
sorry,
mr
hess?
Sorry.
H
H
H
E
E
E
I
do
not
believe
it's
enough
to
sway
me
in
terms
of
a
recommendation,
but
humana
is
a
couple
of
cents
lower
than
delta
is,
but
the
delta
plan
has
been
very
popular
with
the
employees
because
of
the
network.
People
can
get
to
go
where
they
want
to
go
and
get
the
discounts
that
they
have
been
promised.
E
But
we
will
get
you
those
figures
in
writing,
but
that
was
as
of
yesterday
and
we
still
have
four
or
five
carriers
that
we
wanted
to
see.
Are
they
going
to
send
us
a
quote,
or
are
they
not
and
that's
the
last
comment,
the
the
marketplace
has
changed
so
dramatically.
We've
got
five
carriers
in
medical
and
we've
got
about
20
in
ancillary,
that
which
is
what
dental
falls
into,
and
they
are
all
dealing
with
the
fact
that
all
everybody's,
the
majority
of
everybody's
renewals
come
on
1-1.
They
didn't
used
to
have
this.
E
G
E
In
the
current
year,
the
employee
only
I'll
get
to
the
gender
here
in
a
second
employee
only
was
made
up
about
22
percent
employee
plus
one
was
about
10.9
percent
employee
plus
dependence
was
about
20
and
family,
made
up
about
46.9
now
by
gender.
You've
got
a
male
making
up
about
48.9
percent
of
that
female
making
up
about
51.1
percent.
E
E
Kind
of
stuff
I'd
like
to
see
okay
and
I
think
at
some
point
anita
and
I
can
go
through
these
reporting
scenarios
and
get
you
the
copies
that
go
to
the
points
of
those
things.
This
thing
is
43
pages
long
and
some
of
it
doesn't
drill
down.
If
you
will
some
of
it's
just
comments
based
on
how
they
like
to
look
at
things,
comparisons
between
one
year
and
the
current
year,
so
we
can
do
that.
Yeah.
A
Thank
you
all
right,
other
questions
right
now,
so
the
the
for
finance
committee
we're
just
obviously
looking
at
what
the
the
plans
do
for
our
employees.
What
the
numbers
are,
more
importantly,
how
this
fits
into
the
budget?
That's,
and
we
have
to
have
that
in
order
to
do
the
budget.
We've
got
most
everything
done,
you
know.
So
this
is
really
one
of
the
last
pieces.
I
would
say
steve.
Would
you
agree?
A
Imagine
that,
but
so
we
had
to
use
a
number
in
there,
so
we
used
20,
so
I
think
we
figured
out
a
way
to
get
through,
but
that
doesn't
mean
getting
through
and
squeaking.
By
is
where
we
want
to
be
we'd
like
to
get
it
lower.
So
thanks
mike
yes,
sir
all
right
more
to
come
on
this,
but
it'll
be
a
whirlwind
when
we
do
have
this
special
meeting.
A
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
to
maybe
thank
you
if
we
get,
it
done,
maybe
have
a
special
meeting
before
the
full
board
meeting
of
finance,
so
we
could
run
through
all
the
insurance
and
then
send
it
an
hour
later
to
finance
or
to
the
full
board
meeting.
Just
so
we're
not
spending
the
extra
money
on
a
meeting,
but
that's
a
lot
to
get
together
before
three
weeks
from
now
see
what
I
mean
so
we'll
we'll
let
you
know.
A
J
A
That's
all
right,
all
right,
so
you
say
you
want
them
to
go
at
10.
just
messing
around
if
we
could
amend
the
agenda
to
do
the
printer
copier
printer
first,
mr
hunter.
Second,
mr
long,
all
in
favor
say
aye,
those
are
the
same
side.
Motion
carries
I'll,
get
going
on
these,
while
you're
doing
all
right.
J
All
right,
good
morning,
we
received
the
communication
back
as
we
discussed
last
meeting
from
the
state's
attorney's
office.
They
reviewed
the
bid,
the
program
that
had
equipment
previously
bid
out,
and
I
believe
you
know
that
it
worked
for
us,
so
we
in
in
the
meantime
we
had
reached
out
to
all
the
departments
asked
you
know
for
information
about
the
aging
copy
of
printers
ask
for
you
know
the
volume
that
it's
doing
options
that
they
need
et
cetera.
J
So
there's
a
lot
of
savings,
it's
a
great
opportunity
to
replace
the
aging
equipment
that
we
did.
We
didn't
have
funds
to
replace,
and
else
they
just
absolutely
died,
and
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
them
on
their
last
leg.
I
think
there's
still
some
going
that
that
were
put
in
the
service
in
2004,
so
you
can
imagine
the
condition
it's
in
so
so.
J
The
the
the
total
price
with
the
labor
and
delivery
and
and
proven
hauling
away
everything
and
that
we're
suggesting
to
go,
we
believe,
will
work
for
the
arpa
lost
revenue
fund
for
infrastructure
improvements
is
two
hundred
forty
eight
thousand
five
hundred
sixty
eight
dollars
and
fifty
one
cents.
Two.
J
Packet
and
then
the
three-year
service
agreement
and
the
per
page
for
black
and
white
and
colors,
also
in
your
packet,
as
well
as
all
the
equipment
rundown
of
what's
going
to
be
distributed,
I
believe,
there's
24.
If
I'm
remembering
right,
24
units,
the
only
the
only
thing
is
this
may
run
into
the
supply
chain
issue
that
we're
hearing
a
lot
about
everywhere.
J
A
A
A
A
A
J
Little
deal
no
yeah
right
now,
just
an
example.
The
admin
unit,
that's
under
the
old
previous
contract
somewhere
along
the
line,
fell
off
the
contract
and
we
have
trouble
we're
it's
like.
I
might
go
talk
to
the
wall,
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
get
it
back
on
right.
Now,
it's
it's
just
horrible.
So
getting
a
toner
and
things
for
a
unit.
That's
you
know
we're
having
all
kinds
of
trouble
with
the
previous
stuff,
so
it'd
be
a
real
blessing
for
everybody
to
just
get
this
converted
over.
A
I
I
H
O
B
A
J
J
J
Yeah
I
mean
sales
tax
and
the
income
tax
are
the
two
that
for
this
year,
are
the
you
know
the
year-to-date
change
over
last
year
for
sales
taxes,
944
thousand
dollars
your
date
increase
over
last
year.
Franklin
tax
is
just
over
600
000.
So
it's
try
to
change
it's
unusual
for
what
we
see
personal,
the
pprt
is
also
380.
000
year-to-date
increase,
so
very
positive
news
there.
J
J
You
know
change
from
17
18
19
trend.
Until
we
get
a
little
bit
more
history.
This
is
kind
of
a
difficult
one,
because
we've
got
a
lot
of
unusual
situations
going
on
and
we'll
have
to
see
how
it
pans
out
as
a
as
an
average
overall.
But
it's
a
nice
trend.
Obviously
right
now,
so
we've
been
conservative
as
far
as
budget-wise
going
forward.
J
Cash
flow
we'll
spend
a
lot
of
time
there
there's
not
a
lot
to
talk
about
this
time
of
year.
It's
nice
to
see
estimates
of
nine
eleven,
ten
nine
million
dollars
with
the
bottom
line.
Right
now
I
will
open
up
22
here
soon.
You
know
we'll
start
looking
into
the
spring,
which
is
our
most
difficult
time,
but
right
now
he
has
not
a
lot
to
look
at
we'll
be
paying
that
service
off
here
soon.
You
know
after
the
the
property
tax
cycle
and
everything.
G
A
O
I
A
A
The
only
comment
I'll
have
is
is
the
comment
on
these
lawyer
bills.
This
is
the
legal
fees
that
we
are
being
charged
for
the
being
sued
by
the
auditor,
and
the
auditor
feels
it's
not
appropriate
to
charge
these
to
the
county
or
the
tort
fund.
He
didn't
elaborate,
so
maybe
maybe
we'll
just
charge
it
to
the
general
fund
and
his
general
fund.
A
I
don't
know
we'll
talk
about
that
later.
Maybe
that's
if
he
doesn't
think
that's
appropriate.
Maybe
his
general
fund
should
support
his
legal
fees,
so
I'm
just
throwing
that
out
there.
I
don't
know
we're
going
to
see
these
every
month
or
ever
any
time
a
bill
comes
in
over
this
lawsuit,
so
get
used
to
it.
A
O
J
J
J
J
A
A
A
J
J
A
So
what
we,
what
we
need
to
do
is
is
to
after
we
get
motion
and
all
of
that
stuff
is
to
go
back,
make
sure
they're
all
apples
and
apples,
because
we
have
these
different
segments
of
the
audit
that
we
need
done.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
everything
is
part
of
it.
That's
the
qualified
bitter
part
of
it
just
make
sure
everything's
lined
up
apples
to
apples,
and
so
we
just
need
a
motion
for
the
lowest
qualified
bidder.
Mr
hess
I'll
make.
A
A
G
P
P
G
A
G
L
A
Anita
and
steve
speak
to
that.
Okay
on
the
finance
side,
but
you
know,
as
a
board
member,
I
couldn't
have
been
happier
with
the
current
situation,
but
you
should
get
it
out
every
five
six
seven
years.
You
know
at
least
thank
you.
You
know,
that's
something
you
should.
We
should
always
look
at
as
a
board.
Okay,
you
know
so.
A
I
I
I
I
A
B
A
J
J
We're
always
dealing
with
anywhere
from
three-quarter
million
to
a
million
dollars
of
brand
new
money,
and
you
know
when
we
go
to
do
like
property
tax,
for
example,
with
the
cap
fund.
Usually
that
amount
is
anywhere
from
150,
maybe
to
250,
depending
what
the
percentages
are.
So
you
know,
as
far
as
new
money
to
cover
new,
you
know
the
new
new
expense.
So
so
what
we
have
is
you
know
we.
We
also
know
the
change
coming
or
potential
change
coming.
J
What
the
state
did
with
our
dhs
ice
program,
which
is
you
know,
obviously
there's
a
lot
going
on
with
that.
So
but
this
is
the
to
just
make
you
make
the
the
finance
committee
aware
and
the
department
heads
aware.
This
is
not
what
we
went
through
in
the
past,
but
the
the
the
parentheses
are
starting
to
show
up.
The
red
numbers
are
starting
to
show
up,
and
I
think
if
we
are
aware
of
it
start
working
together.
You
know
we
can
close
the
gap.
J
J
You
know
the
trends
that
we've
had
the
last
number
of
years
and
then
we
hit
2020
and
you
know
then
we've
all
the
the
the
trends
that
we
had
you
know
have
slowed
down,
but
we've
still
stayed
positive.
So
that's
that's
a
a
a
something
to
take
away.
That
is
positive,
but
there
is
struggles
to
come
and
this
kind
of
identifies
my
what
I've
been
warning
about:
arpa
related
internal
st
items
that
it
doesn't
add
expense
on
top
of
or
where
we're
already
running.
J
J
I
get
to
see
and
eat
and
drink
and
try
to
sleep
with
this
information
all
the
time,
but
I
wanted
to
just
close
it
we'll
we'll
be
talking
a
lot
of
detail
next
month
with
the
budget,
and
you
know
various
changes,
but
just
for
you
know
big
picture
and
disclosure,
and
you
know
work
that
needs
to
be
done
in
the
future.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
it
to
your
attention
this
month,
so
it
doesn't
get
lost
with
all
the
detail
next
month.
A
First,
calculation,
I
need
to
came
up
with,
but
really
a
lot
of
that
manifest.
I
want
to
say
what
in
23.,
I
believe.
That's
when
a
lot
of
this
really
takes
effect
is
23
yeah.
That's
what
I
thought
too.
So
it's
on
the
radar
and
it'll
start
to
materialize
as
we
start
to
look
at
case
load
and
what
fines
are
eligible,
but
to
start
with
it
was
around
300.
000
was
the
first
hit
that
we
saw
coming
so.
J
Yeah
there's
other
the
the
the
change
with
the
juvenile
detention
piece.
The
will
county
agreement
starts
to
now
ramp
back
our
credit,
if
you
will
that
we've
enjoyed
for
a
number
of
years
now
becomes
we're
going
heading
back
to
you
know,
page
ago
scenarios
so
number
of
things
you
know
start
to
fall
back
into
play
coming
into
23
and
24
as
well,
and.
A
Depending
on
what
they
do
with
pre-trial
with
juveniles,
will
the
state
be
absorbing
all
that
cost
for
detention?
I
I
mean
we
just
there's
no
way
of
knowing,
because
you
know
obviously
they're
going
to
be
doing
something
with
pre-trial
and
we
get
that
present
under
the
christmas
tree.
I
guess
we
get
to
unwrap
it
when
it's
time,
because
it
could
be
more,
it
could
be
less.
We
just
don't
know
what
that's
going
to
be.
Are
they
going
to
consider
juveniles
part
of
what
they're
going
to
handle
on
free
trial?
J
A
Any
other
questions
for
steve
right
now.
It's
our
busy
time
of
the
year
so
expect
this
month
to
be
kind
of
fast.
You
know
at
least
the
amount
of
information
we
got
to
get
done
and
get
get
in
front
of
you.
So
all
right.
Thank
you
now
do
you
want
to
stick
around
for
that?
I
was
going
to
say:
do
you
want
me
to
yeah
we'll
stick
around
for
the
arpa
stuff,
so
another
packet.
A
So
again,
we're
gonna
have
two
different
sections
on
the
arpa
side
of
things.
The
first
one
is
the
let's
say
the
covet
proper
money,
things
that
are
tied
to
the
to
the
specific
uses
of
the
non-lost
revenue.
Part
of
this,
the
stuff
that
has
to
be
really
is
strict
and
stringent
and
is
tied
to
defined
regulation
well
defined
as
a
loose
word
right
now.
I
guess
they'll.
Let
us
know
later,
if
it
was,
everything
was
great
in
the
categorized
properly.
A
R
I
know
it's
no
surprise
to
you
some
of
the
requests,
of
course,
the
ones
dealing
with
domestic
violence,
but
some
of
these
other
issues
may
be
new,
so
I'll
run
through
them,
real,
quick
and
then,
if
anyone
has
any
questions,
I'm
happy
to
answer
them.
The
first
thing
is
to
provide
for
digitization
of
murder,
domestic
battery
and
sexual
assault
case
files.
R
R
The
reason
being
those
are
the
cases
most
likely
to
be
appealed,
perhaps
most
likely
to
end
up
back
in
the
system
at
some
later
date
on
post-conviction
matters,
post-conviction
petitions
claims
of
innocence,
but
we
also
want
to
start
saving
our
domestic
battery
cases,
because
those
are
cases
you
can
bring
back
when
someone
in
the
future
is
charged
with
a
future
similar
offense.
You
can
bring
those
in
to
trial
and
we
we
want
to
make
sure
we
have
those
files
when
we
need
them.
R
So
the
idea
here
is
this
expense,
which
was
I've
put
up
to
24
000.,
the
quote
we
got.
It
was
from
the
same
company
that
coroner
gessner
used
for
his
records.
Recently,
the
quote
was,
I
think,
about
ten
thousand
dollars
less
than
that,
but
I
know
with
corner
gessner
when
they
got
the
files.
Some
of
the
papers
maybe
had
to
be
unfolded
and
touched
and
the
more
work
they
put
in
it
goes
up
a
little
bit.
His
went
up
if
it
was
10
and
it
was
a
very
minimal
amount.
R
R
I
think
five
years
ago
and
of
course,
when
you
buy
them
refurbished,
there's
already
some
some
miles
on
them,
so
the
technology
needs
of
our
office
were
really
exposed
during
the
covet
shutdown,
especially
early
on.
We
didn't
have
a
lot
of
computers
that
people
were
able
to
jump
on
with
cameras.
It
was
great,
you
know
kevin
and
jason.
They
came
down.
They
outfitted
us
with
what
we
needed,
but
we
realize
that
we
need
a
little
bit
more
than
that.
We've
got
to
be
able
to
access
those
records,
especially
since
they'll
be
in
digital
format.
R
In
the
courthouse
we
need
people
to
be
able
to
access
them
from
home.
You
know
recently,
we
just
had
some
employees
out
some
who
weren't
sick,
but
they
still
had
to
do
a
quarantine
period.
It
would
have
been
great
to
allow
them
to
be
able
to
work
from
home
and
access
those
files
we
just
we
don't
have
the
capability
to
do
that
right
now.
So
this
request.
R
And
these
prices
were
vetted
by
mr
duvall:
that's
seventeen
hundred
dollars
each
that's
probably
about
eighty
dollars,
maybe
a
hundred
dollars
more
per
per
unit
than
he
had
quoted
at,
but
you
don't
know.
I
know
that,
there's
issues
with
chips
across
multiple
sectors,
so
the
costs
could
go
up
a
little
bit.
R
Maybe
there's
some
shipping
costs
depending
where
we
get
them
from
so
there's
a
little
bit
again
of
a
a
buffer
built
into
that,
but
I
don't
expect
us
to
exceed
that
30
000
for
the
17
or
16
laptops
that
would
go
across
all
divisions.
So
once
we
have
that
pretty
much,
every
attorney
would
have
access
to
one
in
the
courtroom
at
the
bench
at
council
table
sorry
and
also
back
in
their
offices,
which
would
be
they
could
access
remote,
of
course,
future
software
expenses.
R
I
what
I
did
do
in
here,
I'm
I
tried
to
explain
the
need
the
solution
and
how
we
pay
for
it
going
forward
beyond
covet
so
that
digitization
there's
really
no
added
expense.
We're
scanning
those
in
as
we
get
them
the
tech
and
software
upgrades.
Any
additional
expenses
would
be
software
upgrades
and
that's
something
we
would
have
experienced
anyways.
So
you
know
we
would
have
needed
that
funds
and
we'll
find
those
monies,
whether
it's
out
of
our
general
fund
or,
if
there's
a
special
fund
that
can
accommodate
that.
L
R
In
a
while
we
apply,
I
believe
I
forget
what
office
it
is
with
the
state,
but
you
apply
for
a
certificate
to
destroy
records.
You
list
all
the
files,
all
the
records
that
you're
going
to
destroy
and
they
approve
it
or
not.
They
always
approve
it.
On
our
own
we've,
the
state's
attorney's
office
has
maintained
murder
files.
I
believe
you
know,
probably
since
the
beginning
of
the
office,
there's
some
old
ones
up
there,
but
we
started
saving
sex
cases
for
all
time.
L
R
R
You
know
it's
tough
right
now
to
hire
a
prosecutor,
but-
and
this
pay
would
be
up
to
68
a
year
plus
fringe,
that's
more
than
we
pay
for
an
entry-level
prosecutor
coming
in.
But
that's
because
we
don't
we're
not
really
looking
for
an
entry-level
prosecutor
in
this
role,
we're
looking
for
someone
who's
a
seasoned
domestic
violence
prosecutor,
you
know
got
a
couple
years
under
their
belt
prosecuting
domestic
battery
cases.
Those
could
be
some
of
the
most
challenging.
You
often
have
uncooperative
witnesses,
witnesses
or
victims
who
are
terrified
to
testify.
R
R
So
you
know,
of
course,
we're
going
to
the
the
salary
that
we
offer
anyone
is
going
to
be
commensurate
with
their
experience.
So
I'm
not
saying
that
we
would
go
to
that
amount,
but
I
would
be
looking
for
an
amount
up
to
that
amount
and
then
a
clerk
that
wages
consistent
with
what
all
the
clerks
in
our
office
make
the
reason
it
would
be
great
to
have
a
dedicated
court
dedicated
just
to
domestic
violence
and
the
misdemeanor
call,
which
is
huge,
there's
like
over
1100
domestic
cases.
R
R
I
know
that's
a
short
period
up
to
24
months,
approximately
what
we
have
left
with
the
arpa
funds,
but
the
goal
would
be
that
whoever
comes
in
there
just
through
natural
attrition
right
someone's
going
to
leave
over
the
next
couple
years
and
we'd
already
have
someone
seasoned.
So
if
someone
left
before
then-
and
we
could
transition
them
back
onto
our
general
fund,
perhaps
on
our
grant,
we
would
not.
We
would
no
longer
need
those
coveted
funds,
so
that's
again
a
do
not
not
to
exceed
number
harper-related
counsel.
A
You
know
the
the
amount
of
work
that
is
generated
by
the
the
administration
of
the
county
and
the
pressure
it
puts
on
the
civil
division
of
the
state's
attorney's
office
is
by
far
the
greatest
that
that
office
sees
we've
seen
those
numbers
over
the
years
on
the
number
of
requests.
It's
almost
constant.
A
A
You
know
when
there
is
a
question
on
some
legal
aspect
of
this,
but
then
there's
others
like
will
that's
going
to
just
have
a
consultant
come
in
and
do
it
all
and
so
we're
in
the
hybrid
kind
of
area
right
here
where
we
want
somebody
in
house,
we
don't
necessarily
want
a
consultant,
because
those
people
are
also
determining
what
are
the
best
use
of
the
funds.
We're
asking
the
public
in
our
department,
heads
and
everybody
else
involved
here.
What
they
think
are
the
best
use
of
the
funds,
we're
getting
more
input
that
way.
A
So
this
is
our
our
advisor
really
on
arpa
to
work
hand
in
hand
with
steve
and
anita
and
and
myself,
and
the
department,
heads
and
administration,
to
manage
this
as
we
go
forward,
and
it's
really
going
to
be
heavy
heavy
on
the
front
end,
really
on
a
lot
of
contract
drafting
the
legalities.
What
needs
to
be
on
when
somebody
accepts
this
money?
What
are
they?
What's
that
sign-off
form?
Look
like
that's
legal
work.
You
know
we're
not
qualified
to
do
that.
A
R
S
Mr
chairman,
asking
to
be
excused
from
the
meeting
today,
but
with
a
remark
to
mr
rowe
about
one
item
before
I
leave
sure
mr
rowe
absolutely
it's
imperative
that
we
do
have
a
council
that
is
versed
in
domestic
violence
former
victim
here
you
have
to
have
a
lawyer
who
knows
what
they're
doing
because
of
the
layers
and
layers
and
layers
of
threats
that
go
with
that.
So
thank
you
for
thinking
ahead
and
doing
that.
So,
even
though
I
can't
vote
on
it,
I
totally
support
it
right
and,
mr
chairman
permission
to
be
excused.
A
So
that's
really
the
ends
and
the
outs
of
that.
It's
a
two-year
thing
and
again
this
may
be
somebody
that,
as
jim
decides
that
he
wants
to
to
keep
afterwards
if
it
ends
up
being
somebody
that
fits
into
his
future
plans
for
the
office
they're
already
here
and
familiar
with
us.
So
it's
more
people
I
want
to
say
we
have
an
on
deck
problem
like
who's.
A
R
Lastly,
the
internal
evidence
management
system
for
receipt
review
of
discovery.
This
is
not
to
replace
court
view.
This
is
not
to
interact
at
all
with
the
circuit
clerk's
office.
This
is
an
internal
case
management
program
and
it
what
it
allows
is
for
us
to
connect
with
all
law
enforcement
departments,
so
they
can
submit
everything
in
electronic
format.
R
Last
year
we
quickly
realized
that
all
the
face-to-face
stuff
people
officers
coming
from
all
the
departments
when
kovid
was
hitting
some
of
the
local
police
departments,
and
then
we
had
officers
coming
up
to
our
office
to
hand
us
papers
and
dvds
and
meet
about
cases.
That
was
that
was
uncomfortable
and
it
just
wasn't
a
best
practice
in
conjunction
with
the
sheriff's
department,
because
they
already
had,
I
believe,
sharepoint
in
practice
there,
where
they
could
drop
documents
in
electronically.
R
We
we
put
a
rough
system
together.
It
was
kind
of
something
created
within
our
office,
so
that
law
enforcement
departments
could
upload
items
electronically.
There's
major
problems
with
that.
First
sharepoint
is
not
something
that's
going
to
work
into
the
future.
You
know
that
the
space
is
taken
up
pretty
quickly
and
we
kept
having
to
expand
the
storage
capacity
through
sharepoint,
which
was
an
issue.
The
videos
would
come
over
and
it
doesn't
have
built-in
players.
So
sometimes
you
couldn't
view
the
videos,
depending
on
what
the
original
source
file
was.
R
There
were
times
where,
just
for
a
myriad
of
reasons,
the
the
files
were
too
large,
the
download
times
were
extensive.
Kevin
came
in.
They
tried
to
work
on
that,
but
it's
just
system
limitations
through
sharepoint.
So
it's
not.
It
doesn't
work.
It's
not
going
to
work
long
term.
It
was
a
a
patch.
Basically,
this
program
was
created
for
prosecutors
by
prosecutors.
R
Dupage
has
implemented
it
effectively.
Every
department
uploads
their
photos.
In
one
thing,
their
video
is
one
thing
all
the
players
are
built
into
this
system.
There's
no
cost
to
the
law
enforcement
agencies
because
you
need
you
want
them
to
do
it
this
way.
If
you
impose
a
cost
or
a
user
fee,
and
then
they
don't
do
it
now.
You've
got
two
case
management
systems
which
doesn't
work
so
there's
no
cost
to
the
law
enforcement
agencies.
R
The
ongoing
annual
cost
for
the
18
prosecutors,
I'm
asking
the
county
to
pay
for
that
for
the
first
year
out
of
the
covid
funds
and
again
this
allows
people
to
access
all
those
documents
from
home
in
digital
format.
So
it
works
with
everything
else,
we're
doing
here,
but
after
that
first
year
that
and
we're
contributing
whatever's
in
the
automation
fund,
which
is
about
5200.
So
I
know
it
doesn't
go
very
far
toward
helping
the
overall
expense.
R
But
if
I
have
the
system
implemented-
and
I
have
year
one
covered
of
those
pro
the
licenses-
let's
call
them
for
the
prosecutors.
Then,
subsequent
years
I
can
fund
from
a
number
of
sources.
So
by
year
two
I'll
have
been
able
to
build
up.
One
of
those
special
funds
with
some
money-
let's
say:
there's
10
000
in
the
automation
fund
by
that
time-
and
that
gives
me
a
whole
fiscal
year
to
start
working
that
expense
into
grants.
R
For
instance,
we
get
a
grant
in
our
complex
narcotics
prosecutor
grant
from
iceeja
the
illinois
criminal
justice
information
authority
and
our
drug
prosecutor
would
be
using
this
system.
So
a
portion
of
that
grant.
I
can
attribute
to
at
least
a
small
cut
of
this
expense
going
on
so
there's
a
plan
to
pay
for
it
going
forward,
and
I
think
that's
I
know
it's
a
lot-
puts
everything.
A
Yeah
it's
a
lot
and
I
thank
you
for
at
least
not
at
least
for
for
explaining
where
the
funds
are
going
to
come
from
after
this.
You
know,
because
that's
a
big
consideration
for
this
committee
and
then
steve's
concern
is
we
can't
take
on
costs
that'll
be
there
after
well
now,
two
years
from
now
one
thing
I
did
want
to
mention.
I
talked
to
anita
about
this.
If
it's
acceptable,
we
could
for
the
the
arpa
attorney.
A
We
could
even
push
10
percent
of
that
cost
to
tort
if
you
would
feel
that
they
would
handle
other
things
for
the
board
and
things
like
that
to
further
free
up
your
team.
So
we
can
talk
about
that
on
that
allocation,
because
and
then
we
could
figure
out
how
that
would
work.
You
know,
but
that
was
just
an
idea
we
had
so
we
could
dedicate
other
non-arpa
work
about
ten
percent
of
it
just
to
kind
of
free
things
up
for
other
other
folks.
So
that's
it.
R
A
G
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
miss
road.
I
appreciate
your
your
formats
and
the
specificity
that
you've
articulated
you
have
given
definitive
need
and
what
I
really
appreciate
and
concur
with
what
the
chairman
has
indicated,
the
solution
and
also
the
future
costs
and
how
you
might
address
that,
and
we've
heard
that
every
criminal
justice
meeting
regarding
those
issues
that
deal
with
violent
sexual
violence
and
domestic
violence
and
so
forth
and
and
we're
going
to
have
to
address
it.
A
And,
and
just
so
the
the
committee
knows
that
the
the
little
I'm
gonna
call
it
the
excel
spreadsheet
the
cheat
sheet.
That
summarizes
all
of
this
when
it
says
approve,
as
always,
it
means
it's
been
vetted
under
that
category.
It's
not
saying
you
have
to
approve
it.
It's
saying
it's
eligible
to
be
approved.
I
just
want
to
be
clarity
there.
I
can't
type
all
that
out
on
this
thing
here.
So
while
it
says
approve,
it
doesn't
mean
that's
what
I'm
you
know
saying
you
have
to
do.
It's
gone
through
the
process.
A
A
M
O
A
Yeah
I
deserve
that,
so
the
I
guess
really
beyond
that
is
it,
and
by
the
way,
this
does
connect
to
the
two
things
that
we're
going
to
hear
after
this,
as
far
as
it
may
not
be
on
the
domestic
violence
side.
But
there
is
connections
within
the
courts
in
agreement,
because
we've
all
met
and
talked
about
this
and
at
different
points
of
this,
it
will
dovetail
together
to
work
through
that
backlog.
P
P
A
R
A
Yeah,
so
the
motion
would
be
under
one
section
or
our
category
1.7
digital
digitization
of
files
with
no
special
fund.
I
made
note
of
that
1.8
the
laptops
under
opera
category
1.8,
arpa
category
7.1,
the
legal
council,
1.7
evidence
management
system
and
1.9
attorney
and
clerk
to
address
the
backlog.
That
would
be
the
emotion
in
the
second
just
want
to
make
sure.
So
we
have
to
tie
those
together
for
the
department
of
treasury
with
separate
resolutions,
paperless
society
yeah.
O
O
Before
we
move
on,
I
just
want
to
mention.
I
have
a
couple
of
individuals,
miss
singington
and
mr
howard
from
my
community
that
submitted
a
combined
proposal
to
you
as
well
as
myself,
so
before
they
leave
here
today.
I
would
make
sure
they
have
the
individual
application
where
they
can
identify
themselves.
Oh.
A
Sure
sure
I've
got
they
brought
that
binder
up
and
sent
me
the
ebio
also
as
well
right
and
that's
in
the
the
the
whole
package,
because
there
is
no
official
application
in
there
so
I'll
make
sure
they
fill
this
out.
Excellent,
thank
you
and
specificity
and
then
the
documentation
necessary
on
2019
versus
2020
revenue
and
expense.
All
right
all
right.
A
All
right
mission,
so
we're
talking
about
the
clerks
now
at
this
point.
At
one
point
you
had
mentioned
the
need
some
clerks
for
clerks
to
to
address
backlog,
and
maybe
you
could
talk
about
how
we
we
covered
that
in
the
meeting
we
had
with
you
and
I
and
public
defender
and
state's
attorney,
and
maybe
your
intent
on
how
to
use
these
clerks.
T
Right
now
we
are
up
about
30
percent
of
court
cases
being
called
to
court
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
and
that's
because
that
we
have
less
cases
that
are
filed,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
the
backlog
that
hasn't
been
addressed.
So
the
judges
are,
you
know,
having
huge
court
calls
like
right
now
up
until
the
end
of
september,
which
is
tomorrow,
we
have
had
88,
802
cases
scheduled
and
last
year.
At
this
time
we
had
83
000
cases
and
in
19
2019
had
84
000.
so,
and
that
was
like
a
regular
year.
T
Some
courtrooms
have
had
we've
had
judges
that
have
retired
and
moved
cases
from
one
courtroom
to
another,
and
that
takes
people
to
physically
enter
that
information
into
the
system.
We
can't
just
write
a
program
and
move
it
over,
so
there's
some
courtrooms
that
have
had
like
three
thousand
cases
in
them,
so
it's
in
a
month.
So
it's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
paperwork.
T
Our
scanning
and
things
because
of
the
e-filing
digit,
the
e-filing
situation,
is
we're
able
to
keep
up,
but
it's
still
not
good.
I
have
we're
supposed
to
wrap
that
project
up
by
the
end
of
this
year.
The
two
vendors
are
dedicating
a
whole
day
of
testing
and
working
on
it,
so
we
can
get
that
done,
hopefully
in
october,
so
that
will
help
the
main
office
a
bit,
but
we're
we're
really
short
on
the
courtroom
side
of
things.
So
that's
where
I
would
dedicate
the
three
people:
okay.
A
Now
we
have
one
proposed
budget
that
you
heard
included
the
20
increase
in
health
insurance
ouch.
So
we
were
able
to
have
this
conversation
because
we're
not
just
using
covent
money
to
keep
what
we
currently
have
we're
able
to
address
backlog
in
the
people
issue
that
we
have
within
the
courthouse
to
move
these
cases
forward.
A
So
it
was
the
chief
judge-
and
I,
mr
rowe,
mr
pinwick
and
sandy
got
on
a
zoom
call
and
kind
of
worked
through
how
this
may
go
and
everybody's
completely
aligned
on
this
this
project
and
and
hopefully
the
the
outcome
that
we'll
see
in
a
couple
of
years.
You
know,
because
really
it's
not
all
going
to
go
away
tomorrow,
it's
going
to
take
some
work,
and
maybe
it
may
last
beyond
two
years
and
forbid,
but
some
things
will
take
priority.
A
Probably
those
longest,
I
would
only
imagine
the
longest
or
the
oldest
cases
would
go
first.
I
guess
that's
about
the
best
way
I
could
put
it.
You
know
it's
about
the
what
I
can
see
how
they're
going
to
work
through
it.
So
any
other
questions.
Well,
we
can
talk
to
mr
pennowick.
Did
you
want
to
talk
about
yours
because
it's
kind
of
connected
in
a
way
you
know
you've
got
or
do
you
want
to
have
your
own
explanation
on
on
your
own
on
this?
It's
up
to
you
how
you
want
to
handle.
A
G
G
A
A
G
G
That
seems
to
be
a
concern
every
time
you
know
you
come
before
this
body
or
the
full
county
board.
You
know
I
maintain
that
you
know.
There's
got
to
be
some
solution
to
the
the
personnel
needs.
I
understand
the
backlog
and
so
forth,
but
it
seems
that
you
know
there's
issues
regarding
people
not
being
at
work
and
being
able
to
coordinate
the
workloads,
cross-training,
etc,
and
I've
never
never
heard
you
come
up
with
any
kind
of
solution
as
to
address
those
particular
issues
other
than
hiring
additional
personnel.
G
So
I
don't
know
if
you
need
a
manager
there
if
there's
needs
to
be
a
consultant
to
make
a
determination
as
to
the
solutions
of
running
your
office,
but
you
know
I
was
hoping
that
you'd
possibly
be
here
to
face
the
legislators
and
your
request,
for
you
know
additional
personnel
or
any
any
particular
need.
You
may
have.
T
G
A
G
A
P
A
U
U
Since
that
time
and
and
pursuant
to
various
discussions
I've
had
with
chairman
wheeler
and
other
parties
and
pursuant
to
other
discussions
within
my
office,
you
know
in
a
perfect
world.
I
would
love
to
have
two
attorneys
to
address
the
backlog.
I
presented
the
numbers
previously
and
I
have
them
again.
U
Our
felony
caseload
has
increased
14
between
march
2020
and
march
2021.
misdemeanors
have
increased,
11
traffic
has
gone
up,
32
percent
juvenile
went
down
6
but,
like
I
said
last
time
or
not
last
time
but
months
ago,
that's
because
everything
was
closed.
Dcfs
was
closed
effectively.
All
the
state
agencies
that
would
do
the
abuse
and
neglect
cases,
the
juvenile
cases
weren't
operating,
so
those
numbers
have
gone
down,
but
every
other
number
in
my
office
has
gone
up.
U
So
you
know
in
a
perfect
world,
two
of
terms
would
be
ideal.
However,
I've
tweaked
my
my
proposal
substantially.
I've
gone
down
to
one
attorney.
That
attorney
will
be
applied
to
everything.
I
appreciate
mr
rose
concerns
and
focus
on
domestic,
but
the
in
my
opinion
that
the
the
backlogs
you
know
often
you're,
not
office,
wide
crime
wide
it
doesn't
pertain
just
to
one
crime
or
the
other.
So
I'm
seeking
an
assistant
just
for
a
complete
top
to
bottom
misdemeanor
felony
to
to
attack
the
case
or
the
backlog.
U
U
U
We
don't
have
cell
phones,
we
have
to
contact
the
clients,
we
have
to
be
in
ongoing
discussions
with
them.
Regarding
the
cases
with
koved.
You
know
we
couldn't
see
the
clients
they
couldn't
come
in.
We
had
no
way
to
contact
them.
I
don't,
I
don't
want
to
say
an
open
in
open
hearing
that
we
use
our
private
phone.
So
I
know
that
that
triggers
a
lot
of
things,
but
we're
using
our
private
phones.
Obviously
we're
you
know
we.
We
have
to
talk
to
our
clients,
but
I'm
not
gonna.
U
You
know,
leave
them
high
and
dry.
Just
because
you
know
I
don't
have
a
phone
on
me.
I
don't
have
the
money
for
a
phone,
so
things
of
as
far
as
technology
goes,
I'm
asking
for
phones,
I've.
I've
quoted
that
out
through
a
trempakowski
additional
laptops
within
the
office
so
that
we
can
have
access
for
zoom
and
all
other
all
other.
You
know
benefits
of
having
updated
computers
in
our
office.
U
Mr
rose
focused
on
digitization
and
and
that's
something
I
have
not
thought
much
about.
However,
I
am
asking
for
additional
money
for
a
scanners.
I've
explained
that,
because
just
two
additional
scanners,
we
currently
have
one
scanner
within
the
office.
It's
in
our
main
computer
or
our
main
copy
machine.
U
It
would
be
beneficial,
especially
with
e-filing
and
so
forth,
and
so
on
that
we
have
additional
means
to
scan
documents.
I
have
those
quoted
from
an
old
quote
from
mr
duvall
that
I
looked
into
some
time
ago.
It
was
3.99
each
back,
then
that
was
about
a
year
ago.
So
I'm
asking
for
a
little
bit
additional
money
for
cushion.
I
got
the
quotes
for
the
computer.
I
just
I
pulled
the
figure
of
500
per
computer.
U
Obviously,
if
it's
less
it's
less
and
I'll
be
quoting
that
out
with
mr
duvall's
help
the
last
thing
I'm
requesting
an
additional
500
for
various
expenditures.
You
know
we
talked
about.
Mr
rowe
talked
about
the
transferring
of
data
to
a
technology
or
digitalization.
I
am
not
trying
to
do
that
right.
Now,
I'm
not
trying
to
completely
overhaul
the
way
we
do
files
and
everything
that
would
be
a
conversation
well
down
the
road
and
we'll
cross
that
bridge.
When
we
come
to
it.
U
I
think
my
tech
technology
needs
are
different
than
mr
rose
as
far
as
him
getting
the
data
from
various
sources.
I
have
to
deal
with
the
data
once
I
get
it
from
other
sources,
but
I
am
asking
for
additional
funding
for
just
basic
fundamental
office
supplies,
basically
for
lack
of
a
better
word.
Thumb
drives
paper
medians
to
download
documents
and
have
that
available.
I
also
incorporate
it
into
that
money
about
five
thousand
dollar
request
for
additional
training
from
my
attorneys
by
law.
U
Attorneys
must
have
30
hours
of
continuing
legal
education
each
year
last
year
there
were
no
seminars
available,
basically
because
of
coven,
so
we're
kind
of
playing
catch
up.
I
do
make
every
effort
to
do
a
free
seminar
as
our
public
defender
seminars
annual
it's
fantastic.
It
offers
free
cles,
there's
also
other
areas
to
get
free,
cles
through
the
bar
association
and
so
forth,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
you
gotta
send
people
to
seminars.
You
know
drug
court,
do
you
have
your
drug
court
certified?
U
U
U
I
have
some
cases.
I
I
keep
busy
over
there,
but
no
it's
apples
and
oranges,
and-
and
I
try
to
avoid
that
comparison,
but
I
know
mr
rowe
asked
for
less
than
75
000,
but
I
would
like
that
you
see
availability
of
that
money
for
an
assistant.
I
only
have
one
full-time
assistant
making
more
than
75
000
right
now.
U
So
it's
something
that
is,
I
guess
conversation
I
should
not
be
having
now,
because
it
really
is
irrelevant
to
why
we're
here,
but
I
do
not
believe
that's
an
unreasonable
request
and
we
don't
know
what's
going
to
happen
tomorrow
with
call
of
duty.
There's
another
spike,
then
we're
out
to
be
shut
down,
we're
going
to
be
working
through
working
from
home
again
and
all
the
needs
that
mr
rose
talked
about
regarding
you
know,
covet
related
expenses
and
issues
will
just
be
there.
You
know
on
an
ongoing
basis
other
than
that.
A
A
Accordingly,
those
are
our
I'm
going
to
say
vetted
and
set
to
be
approved
if
you
so
choose.
If
you
flip
to
the
lost
revenue,
one
that
we'll
talk
about
in
a
little
bit,
those
other
things
that
mr
pennowick
spoke
of
is
on
the
lost
revenue,
side
of
things
and
there's
a
like
the
scanners.
I
will
just
use
an
example
we'll
talk
about
that
in
a
minute,
because
we're
not
voting
on
that
right
now.
A
So
we're
just
considering
with
this
motion
here
the
attorney
and
the
laptops
that
we're
talking
about
then
we'll
revisit
some
of
the
other
things
when
we
talk
about
the
lost
revenue
fund
here
in
about
hopefully
five
minutes
so
does
that
is
that
clear?
I
just
want
to
make
sure
everybody
knows
it's
two
different
pots
of
money
that
they
would
potentially
have
to
come
out
of.
A
U
U
R
The
difference
is
we're
not
communicating
with
clients
right,
there's,
no,
there's
no
attorney-client
privilege
there
that
the
prosecutors
would
need
to
protect
because
we
don't
have
clients,
whereas
the
public
defender
is
communicating
privileged
information
with
clients.
So
there's
there
are
privacy
concerns
there
and.
R
You
know
that
that's
something
that
you
that
that
would
be
up
in
the
air
right.
That
would
depend
on
the
specific
communication,
the
contents
of
that
communication.
So
I
can't
just
give
you
a
blanket
answer
for
that.
But
okay
and
other
departments
can
have
phones
and
they
would
be
subject
to
foia
and
really
there
should
be
no
concern
because
there
shouldn't
be
anything
in
there.
That's
private
or
confidential,
but
in
mr
penawik's
case
like
those
are
privileged
communications.
L
U
I
have
email
on
my
phone,
I
have
texting,
you
know
I
email
the
clients,
I
text
the
clients
they
text
me.
I
I
think
we've
all
been
lucky
with
this,
with
the
lack
of
foia
for
our
private
phones.
I
think
it's
an
issue
that
should
be
discussed
at
some
point
in
some
other
hearing,
but
you
know
it's
out
there,
because
you
want
someone
saying
give
me
your.
You
know.
U
I
don't
want
someone
asking
to
get
my
private
phone
and
and
look
for
one
piece
of
information
when
obviously
there's
99.99
of
everything
else,
I
do
on
my
phone
that
would
be
accessible
in
one
way
or
another.
So
that's
a
conversation
for
another
day
but,
like
I
said
I
I
do
think
the
phones
are
unique
to
my
office.
In
that
regards,
I
call
my
clients
every
day
before
corey.
U
A
And
again,
we're
going
to
have
this
in
this
conversation
later
about
the
phones,
part
of
it,
because
there's
some
work
to
do
on
that.
Yet
just
like
miscellaneous
expenses-
and
you
know
things
that
haven't
happened
yet
and
that
are
nebulous
and
we
we
can't
tie
that
to
an
approval.
So
I
think
that's
where
we're
coming
from
is
we're
not
it's
not
a
that's.
A
Why
you
don't
see
it
on
this
list
and
you'll
see
just
hold
on
and
on
the
next
one,
but
the
scanners
are
there,
we've
already
vetted
that,
and
that
would
be
critical
infrastructure
for
his
office.
You
know
so
we
can
use
lost
revenue
for
that,
so
we'll
get
into
all
that
in
a
minute.
Okay.
So
just
on
the
two,
mr
hess,
we're.
H
O
A
B
A
A
H
A
B
A
Right
motion
carries
moving
on
tracy's
pet
styling.
Let
the
dogs
out
2.9,
sorry,
it
was
just
a
month
for
that
we
got.
We
got
a
lot
of
those
in
and
there's
a
few
more
that
are
in
the
pipeline
that
we're
waiting
on
the
information
too.
Just
so
you
know,
I
mean
it's
not
what
you're
seeing
here
there,
I've
probably
got
an
equal
amount
that
are,
we've
requested
more
documentation
on.
So
it's
starting
to
start
to
flow
a
little
bit.
They
are
rural
grant
park
not
in
grant
park.
A
It
qualifies
under
2.9
the
economic
impact
they
ask
for
substantially
more
than
this.
I
believe,
and
I'm
trying
to
find
the
request
here.
What'd
they
ask
for
20.
000
was
the
request,
the
20
000..
Now
that
7
000
matched
the
difference
between
their
profit
and
19
and
their
loss
in
20..
Does
that
make
sense?
A
So
that's
that's
the
gap,
so
that's
where
we
limited
it
right
there
that
I
put
that
amount
in
there
because
they
were
able
to
show
made
x
amount
of
dollars
here
lost
x,
amount
of
dollars
there,
and
so
all
that
documentation
panned
out.
I
just
want
to
let
the
committee
know
and
if
you
all
want
to
see
it,
that's
no
problem.
We
can
show
you,
but
it
was
just
the
way
to
say:
okay
was
there
a
loss?
Yes,
there
was,
and
that
was
the
gap
on
that
total
net
profit
and
loss.
A
A
A
B
A
All
righty
next
item
pledge
for
life
under
section
1.11,
the
program
that
they're
looking
at
it's
actual
prescription,
lock
boxes
we've
seen
an
uptick
in
you'll
have
to
hold
on
a
second
there
kevin
sorry.
The
section
1.11
prescription
lock
box
is
the
program
that
they
want
to
do.
There's
been
a
a
huge
uptick
in
prescription
drug
overdoses.
Things
like
that,
so
we're
able
to
tie
it
right
to
the
pandemic
on
the
numbers
we
talked
about
it
and
then
we've
gone
through
it.
A
A
A
A
A
O
B
A
All
right
now
we're
on
the
lost
revenue
spreadsheet.
So
I
think
we
got
through
everything
else
on
that
one:
okay:
here's
where
you
see
the
scanners
under
for
public
defender
under
6.1
out
of
lost
revenue.
The
number
I
had
was
it
not
to
exceed
eight
hundred
dollars
kevin.
Was
that
what
you
were
going
to
comment
on.
K
I
I
just
want
to
address
that
some
of
the
figures
he
initially
had
would
be
higher
than
that,
but
I
had
given
you
a
figure
of
some.
Some
dollar
amounts
to
consider
and
a
separate
issue
where
I
just
gave
you
a
general
replacement
costs
or
if
you
had
to
make
purchase
first
for
scanners.
Is
that
or
just
I
believe
I
may
have
had
that
in
there,
but
specifically
when
he
said
some
of
the
laptops
and
stuff
the
cost
would
be
higher
than
that
now.
So
I
didn't
know
if
you're
approving
specific
dollars.
A
We
can
update
it
for
the
full
board
if
you're
able
to
get
current
costs
that'd
be
helpful.
Okay,
all
right,
thank
you,
yeah,
because
we
have
no
way
of
knowing-
and
I
think
everybody
knows
from
week
to
week,
prices
are
changing
right
now
in
a
major
way,
so
the
scanners
are
on
right
now.
The
first
estimate
was
around
eight
hundred
dollars.
I
believe
I
don't
think
that
was
each
yeah.
Do
you
remember
was
that
each
I
thought
that
was.
K
A
We
need
to
have
something
here
at
the
committee.
I
thought
that's
where
those
are
the
most
up-to-date
numbers
we
had,
and
we
talked
about
it
after
that.
So
if
the
committee's
okay,
with
that,
we
can
approve
it
and
fill
in
the
final
number
once
we
get
this
nailed
down.
Is
that
acceptable
to
the
committee?
We
look
at
the
models.
We
get
a
current,
updated
price
and
then
we
go
from
there.
N
A
I
A
B
A
Mr
africano,
do
you
perceive
that
you
have
a
lot
to
talk
about
today?
Would
you
want
to
jump
in?
Is
there
a
motion
to
amend,
allow
the
treasurer
to
do
his
report,
mr
miller?
Oh,
mr
long.
Second,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
as
opposed
same
sign,
I'm
thinking
of
maybe
letting
you
know
the
treasurer
and
the
sheriff
say
their
piece
and
take
questions,
and
then
we
move
on
to
the
website
because
it
is.
A
A
O
O
D
Ready
yep
so
before
I
get
started,
we
have
taken
in
the
second
installment
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
staff
in
my
office,
specifically
shakira
parker
diane,
spade
sarah
raymond
and
donna
casino
for
all
their
help,
and
I
want
to
specifically
mention
diane
spade
celebrated
her
10th
anniversary
here
with
the
county
yesterday.
So
thank
you
to
the
staff.
D
D
Conducts
and
last
year
and
this
year
as
a
result
of
covid,
it
is
a
sealed
bid.
Auction
and
those
bids
come
through
my
office
and
they're
due
by
end
of
day
friday,
and
what
we're
going
to
look
at
is
we're
going
to
look
at
the
revenue
generated
on
the
surplus
tax
sale
from
last
year
and
this
year,
and
if
it's
greater
and
the
law
allows,
we
probably
would
like
to
stay
with
a
sealed
auction
if
possible.
A
V
A
V
V
A
V
Well,
yeah
the
locals
tend
to
drop
a
little
bit
and
then
they
jump
back
up
and
and
it's
just
but
but
that
was
nothing
outside
of
normal
from
prior
to
covet,
I
mean
so
the
the
number
gets
up
there.
People
get
sense,
the
doc
we
take
them
to
doc.
The
number
drops
we
were
just
taking
them
on
a
more
consistent
basis
to
doc,
which
I'll
talk
about
briefly
here
in
a
minute
sure.
A
And
just
so
the
reason
it's
relevant
and
financial
is
it
cost
us
much
more
on
our
local
population
because
we're
paying
for
all
their
medical
we're
paying
for
really
there's
no
reimbursements
coming
so
there's
that
that
it,
may
you
may
say:
well,
hey
you
know,
you've
got
you
only
got
230
or
whatever,
but
we're
paying
every
dime
of
that
unless
they
have
outside
insurance.
Well,.
V
And
since
we're
on
it,
I
might
as
well
just
finish
up
yeah.
So
for
those
of
you
that
don't
know
the
only
department
of
corrections
had
sent
us
information
that
they
wanted
from
us.
Regarding
the
number
of
inmates
who
had
been
sentenced
to
doc
dating
back,
we
can
only
date
it
back
to
july
1st
because
of
the
fiscal
year
issue.
We
couldn't
go
back
to
a
prior
fiscal
year,
which
again
is
another
cost
that
the
state
put
on
our
local
taxpayers.
V
V
V
20Th
at
cancum
is
serving
as
chairman
of
that
committee,
which
she
served
for
a
number
of
years,
so
we
will
certainly
miss
him
and
the
role
that
he
plays
making
sure
that
people
are
able
to
call
9-1-1
and
have
people
there
to
answer
the
phone.
So
we
will
certainly
miss
him,
but
his
last
meeting
is
october
20th.
V
One
of
the
issues
going
on
right
now
is
some
of
the
overtime
and
corrections
we
have
had
an
onslaught
of
overtime
because
of
hospitalizations
of
some
of
our
local
inmates,
one
of
which
was
a
gunshot
victim
in
one
of
the
shootings
in
the
city,
so
that
number
will
creep
up
a
little
bit.
I'm
sure
steve
has
seen
it.
V
Those
are
things
that
we
really
don't
have
much
control
over.
We
are
kind
of
at
the
mercy
of
where
an
individual
is
hospitalized.
In
this
case,
one
of
them
was
transferred
up
to
a
hospital
in
chicago,
and
we
had
to
send
correctional
officers
up
there
around
the
clock.
So
you're
going
to
see
somewhat
of
an
uptick
with
that
and
not
including
the
other
locals
that
we
have
had
in
our
local
hospitals
as
well.
V
We
mentioned
earlier
cashless
bail
just
briefly,
and
I
and
I
want
to
fill
this
committee
in
because
it
is
a
financial
issue
as
it
pertains
to
the
sheriff's
office
and-
and
we
can
talk
about-
and
I
don't
know
that
we
have
necessarily
a
number
yet
of
what
that's
going
to
mean
from
the
clerk's
office
and
and
all
the
money
they
collect
from
for
bail.
Right
now.
V
Under
cashless
bail,
which
goes
into
effect
in
january
of
2023,
if
a
person
who
is
released
on
cashless
bail
does
not
show
up
as
it
works
now,
if
you
post
bond
and
you
fail
to
show
up
in
court,
the
judge
in
most
cases
will
issue
a
warrant
which
involves
the
state's
attorney.
The
public
defenders,
normally
the
clerks,
the
sheriff's
office
and
cancum,
and
that
warrant
goes
in
our
system
and
we
end
up
ultimately
picking
up
that
offender
at
some
point
under
cashless
bail.
V
Once
that
person
we
have
to
serve
him
within,
I
believe
it's
72
or
48
hours
before
his
court
date,
his
or
her
court
date
a
lot
of
times.
We
won't
be
able
to
get
them
served
because
of
the
lack
of
information
as
to
where
they're.
At
I
mean
they
don't
show
up
now
and
they
have
money
posted
which
should
be
forfeited,
but
unfortunately
I
don't
believe
our
courts
really
do
that
a
whole
lot,
which
is
again
unfortunate
because
it
would
you
know,
there's
no
consequences
for
anybody
not
showing
up
for
court.
Q
Q
V
Isn't
necessarily
a
sheriff's
issue?
Cashless
bail
is
a
court
issue.
You
know
the
cashless
bail
has
basically
come
out
and
said
we
don't
trust
the
judges
in
setting
bail,
so
we're
going
to
just
eliminate
it.
I
mean
that's
technically
where
that
is,
and
people
don't
want
to
hear
this.
But
that's
the
facts
I
mean
the
sheriff.
V
V
Yep,
and
at
this
point
again,
we
don't
know
how
much
cashless
bail
is
going
to
affect
our
county
when
it
comes
to
collecting
fines
costs
and
that
type
of
thing
so
yeah.
Those
are
certainly
issues
that
that
this
committee
and
that
arpa
money
will
be
long
gone
by
the
time
we
feel
the
effect
of
it
loss
of
revenue,
yeah
that
that
arpa
money
will
be
long
gone
by
the
time
we
feel
the
effect
of
it.
L
V
V
More
things
real,
quick,
some
of
you
may
have
seen
the
article
in
the
local
newspaper
regarding
the
policing
of
aroma
park.
Aroma
parks
board
has
voted
to
eliminate
their
police
department
and
they
are
going
to
contract
with
us.
We
have
not
seen
the
intergovernmental
agreement
that
they
have.
I
was
advised
by
the
mayor
a
couple
days
ago
that
it
will
be
forthcoming
and
signed,
and
I
will
bring
it
back
to
probably
criminal
justice
if
I
get
it
on
time
so
that
we
can
get
that
approved.
V
V
And
lastly-
and
I'm
glad
mr
pintowick
is
still
here
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
during
covid,
that
wasn't
mentioned,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know,
because
sometimes
we
at
the
jail
get
accused
of
not
providing
or
not
providing
access
to
legal
things
that
inmates
need.
We
did
provide
ipads,
so
that
attorneys
could
communicate
via
facetime
with
their
clients
during
covid.
V
So
that
was
something
that
was
out
there.
That
was
available
so
as
well
as
well
as
phone
calls.
So
that
was
available
and
I
will
send
out
too.
I
do
have
a
report
here.
I
didn't
want
to
send
this
without
giving
you
a
heads
up.
This
is
elimination
of
cash
bail
in
illinois,
the
financial
impact
analysis
and
where
these
numbers
came
from.
I
will
send
this
to
kelly
and
kelly
can
forward
this
to
everybody,
so
you
can
read
it
at
your
leisure.
It's
got
some
decent
information
in
it
that
I
think
you
find
interesting.
A
A
Okay,
jasmine,
do
you
want
to
join
us
up
here?
Please,
it's
been
a
long
time,
so
the
we
talked
about
the
website
project.
This
began
a
few
months
ago.
We
knew
we
were
going
to
start
looking
well,
I
knew
like
eight
years
ago
we
needed
to
start
looking,
but
now
we
finally
were
able
to
get
on
it.
Jasmine
spent
the
the
better
part
of
a
month
and
a
half,
I
would
say,
really
digging
in
deep.
A
Looking
at
the
examples
out
there,
I've
been
kind
of
in
the
background
helping
out,
but
this
has
been
her
project
and
so
we're,
finally,
to
the
point
where
and
I'll
just
make
note
of
this,
she
further
negotiated
the
price
down.
So
what
you
have
in
your
packet
is
is
not
the
correct
price.
It's
lower
and
I
believe
everybody
probably
got
another
sheet
of
paper
update.
Did
everybody
get
this?
A
It's
a
okay,
it's
in
the
packet!
Okay!
I
just
want
to
make
sure,
because
it's
now
the
42
thousand
and
three
cents,
forty
two
thousand
three
cents
and
then
the
yearly
is
79.99
after
that
and
we'll
explain
all
what
that
means.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
when
the
motion
comes
across.
It's
not
what
was
originally
on
the
packet.
We've
got
that
lower
to
get
that
done.
So
with
that
the
floor
is
yours,.
W
W
This
is
more
than
a
website
conversation,
it's
a
mass
communications
tool,
so
it
would
be
more
than
a
website.
We're
really
excited
to
talk
about
it
this
morning,
so
like
that.
Okay,
so
first
we're
going
to
talk
about
government
websites.
So
these
are
some
questions
that
I
kind
of
asked
myself
when
I
was
first
introduced
to
the
project.
How
are
people
interacting
with
government
websites?
Well,
the
statistics
are
here:
55
percent
mobile,
so
everyone
these
days
are
on
the
go.
W
No
one
is
actually
sitting
down
at
a
website,
but
typically
they
are
forty
three
percent
on
their
desktop
and
two
percent
on
their
tablet,
and
you
can
see
the
sources
down
there,
I'm
big
on
sources,
so
these
are
kind
of
the
questions
that
kind
of
led
us
to
base
our
decisions
for
our
selection
that
we're
proposing
to
you
today.
So
who
is
our
audience?
What's
our
focus?
What
are
their
needs?
How
are
they
meeting?
W
W
W
Communication
strategies,
topic
specific
content,
not
just
posting
something
on
your
website
or
on
social
media,
but
are
they
actually
reading
it?
Is
it
topic
specific
or
are
they
scrolling
past
it?
How
do
you
shape
that
message?
What
are
you
actually
using
in
your
message
to
appeal
to
the
right
audience
per
se?
W
You
really
want
to
use
multiple
channels,
not
just
one
communication
platform.
If
that
makes
sense
and
then
your
target
audience
is
huge
target
audience
engagement,
are
they
just
reading
the
posts?
Are
they
liking
the
post?
Are
they
commenting
on
the
post?
Are
they
sharing
the
post?
That
is
all
engagement
tool,
I'm
talking
fast,
because
I
know
you
want
to
get
out
of
here.
So
we
chose
civic
plus.
This
is
who
we
are
recommending
to
the
board.
Today
they
are
mainly
for
local
governments.
W
They
are
a
huge
technology
tool,
and
here
you
can
see
on
your
screen
screen.
They
have
four
thousand
plus
local
governments,
and
I
made
some
notes
here
out
of
those
clients
they
have
worked
with
about
70
000
counties.
I'm
sorry
70
counties
not
70
000.,
but
they
were
formed
in
1998.
They
continue
to
implement
new
technology.
They
enhance
the
way
local
governments
communicate.
So
that
is
why
that
we
are
recommending
civic
plus,
they
also
have
more
than
20
years
of
experience
working
with
local
governments.
W
W
Arpa
is
our
main
discussion
here
today.
Really,
this
is
what
we
really
need
to
focus
on
with
our
new
website.
Right
now
we
talked
about
what
are
the
immediate
needs
that
we
need
on
our
website?
What
is
something
that
we
need
to
post
right
now
and
while
we
do
have
arpa
information
on
our
current
website,
it's
really
hard
to
find.
I
usually
have
to
direct
them
to
where
that
is
so.
It
would
be
a
headliner
on
our
new
website.
You
can
see
our
application
forms
on
here.
It
would
be
filled
with
resources.
W
Civic
engaged
sin
is
a
part
of
the
packet
that
I
have
in
there
that
kelly
put
in
there
for
you,
so
the
entire
system
is
called
civic
engage,
but
civic
engaged
send
is
the
multi-channel
communication
tool
that
makes
this
a
really
attractive
feature
for
the
new
website,
so
through
civic
send
you
are
able
to
send
updates
through
a
preferred
channel.
What
I
mean
by
that
our
people
can
subscribe
to
text
alerts.
W
We
get
unlimited
number
of
subscribers
through
this.
We
can
also
track
responses.
We
will
never
share
their
information,
but
we
can
kind
of
track
what
they
want
more
from
us.
So
what
more
information
would
they
like
to
see
from
us?
Do
they
want
to
see
more
about
arpa?
Would
they
like
to
see
more
about
animal
control?
They
pick
and
choose
what
information
they
want.
W
W
They
would
have
to
subscribe
and
right
now
we're
talking
about
500
subscribers,
but
they
have
actually
doubled
that
for
us
when
I
called
them
back,
they
are
upping
it
to
1
000
subscribers,
but
we
also
get
unlimited
subscribers
to
email
and
text
through
civic
send.
So
that's
just
an
alternative
option.
If
we
were
to
want
that
personalized
subscription
options
is
a
big
one
as
well,
because
they
are
able
to
personalize
those
choices
again,
an
example
for
the
alert
center.
This
is
an
example
from
pasco
county
florida.
W
You
can
see
right
at
the
top
of
their
web
page.
They
have
an
alert
button,
but
at
the
bottom
down
here
they
said
to
be
instantly
notified
of
alerts
and
emergency
subscribe
to
notify
me,
which
is
what
we
just
discussed
or
rss
and
rss
just
is
an
email
alert
system.
That's
short
for
that.
So
I
really
like
this
layout
immediately.
You
can
see
alerts,
they
click
on
this
they
could
subscribe.
W
W
The
notify
me
tool
is
the
tool
that
is
really
cool
as
well.
This
is
an
example
from
randall
county
texas.
You
guys
see
that
okay,
so
the
notify
me
again
is
where
they
can
subscribe
right
here
through
email
or
text.
This
is
all
through
the
civic
sense,
so
it's
unlimited
amount
of
subscribers.
I
explained
to
them
that
our
county
is
a
little
over
a
hundred
thousand,
how
many
subscribers
are
we
able
to
have,
and
they
said
that
it's
all
included
in
our
package.
So
that's
a
really
good
deal.
W
Okay.
If
they
would
like
to
get
really
fancy
depending
on
the
type
of
user
we're
trying
to
target
here,
they
can
create
an
account,
and
that
is
really
personal.
You
know
I've
never
seen
a
government
website
where
you
could
create
an
account
at
least
well.
I
have
through
the
irs,
but
not
for
this,
so
users
receive
notifications
on
news
events,
information
they
care
about
again
we're
talking
about
increasing
productivity
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
they're,
not
really
just
reading
the
information
they're
actively
seeking
it,
and
that
is
what
you
want.
W
You
want
a
two-way
street,
not
just
telling
people
information.
You
want
people
to
actively
engage
with
that
information
as
well.
The
end
result
would
be
engaging
the
community
so
now
they
are
building
a
relationship
with
their
local
leaders,
they're
trusting
their
local
government.
So
again
it's
a
two-way
street,
so
that
would
be
the
positive
outcome
and
then
they
would
also
be
involved
with
it
because
they
know
about
it.
So
now
they're
going
to
maybe
be
more
involved
with
their
community
and
I've
actually
seen
real
life
exam
real
life.
Examples
of
that
situation.
W
W
They
have
a
lot
more
residents
than
we
do,
but
I
actually
reached
out
to
the
social
media
person
for
lake
county.
She
said
she
loves
it
and
it's
a
huge
tool.
So
something
to
consider
this
is
what
their
my
dashboard
would
look
like.
They
would
create
an
account
and
then
they
would
be
able
to
personalize
and
get
all
of
their
information
from
what
they
choose
to
get
and
receive.
W
W
The
search
feature
is
a
really
cool
tool,
because
right
now
our
agenda
center,
you
can
find
it,
but
the
search
is
kind
of
very
tedious.
So
let's
say
if
someone
were
to
brought
up
the
word
chicken
in
a
public
comment,
that
word
would
have
appear
in
your
search
and
everything
would
come
up
and
we
have
tested
that
on
other
websites,
so
it
works
and
immediately
you
will
see
all
of
the
agendas
and
things
associated
with
that
which
is
really
nice.
W
The
archive
center.
All
of
this
again,
is
under
our
document
center.
So
this
is
one
huge
tool
and
to
answer
your
question
as
far
as
storage,
with
this
proposal
package,
we
get
a
hundred
gigabytes
of
storage.
Kevin
could
attest
to
that
to
how
big
and
how
huge
that
is,
they
never
really
see
anyone
hit
a
hundred
gigabytes
even
with
the
populations
who
have
a
lot
more
people
in
them.
W
Archive
center
will
have
all
of
our
old
agendas.
So
the
way
it
will
work
is
our
agenda.
Center
will
have
the
first
one,
our
last
100,
and
then,
after
that
it
will
all
be
archived
in
the
archive
center.
Civic
plus
will
bring
over
all
of
our
agendas.
They
will
do
all
of
the
work.
On
the
back
hand,
we
will
work
with
them
to
be
updated
and
such
form
center.
W
This
is
a
really
good
tool
too,
because
right
now,
a
lot
of
our
forms
on
our
website
are
not
fillable.
People
have
to
print
them,
download
them
bring
them
in
email
them.
They
will
be
able
to
fill
out
forms
directly
on
our
website
and
then
send
immediately
to
where
it
needs
to
go.
That's
a
really
good
feature
that
I
believe
every
government
website
should
have
contact
us.
They
can
contact
us
photo
gallery
staff
directory.
W
This
is
an
example
from
randall
county
again
texas,
I
kind
of
poked
around
on
a
lot
of
different
counties,
just
because
I
want
to
show
you
guys
what
this
will
look
like
on
ours.
Here's
our
document
center
so
down
here,
I
kind
of
clicked
on
human
resources,
and
then
it
brought
up
all
of
these
documents.
All
of
this
information
is
public,
so
just
imagine
taking
all
of
your
folders
and
then
putting
it
right
in
their
files
where
they're
able
to
access
those
which
is
really
popular
discussion
today.
W
So
again,
here's
the
agenda
center.
This
example,
I
believe,
is
from
lake
county,
but
anyway
they
all
pretty
much
look
the
same.
This
is
what
the
agendas
would
look
like
and
then
right
here
they
pointed
out
the
archive
center.
If
you'd
like
to
see
anything
past
what
they
have
listed,
please
visit
our
archive
center
any
questions
so
far.
I
know
I'm
going
fast
because
of
time:
okay,
job
postings,
another
hot
topic.
W
W
Yes,
so
this
will
come
with
google
translate,
so
it
can
translate
up
to
100
languages
yeah
they
would
just
have
to
click
down
in
the
bottom
right
of
their
screen.
I'm
going
to
talk
to
civic
plus
to
see
if
we
can
make
that
button
a
little
bigger,
so
people
aren't
really
like
looking
for
it,
but,
yes,
I
was
going
to
get
to
that.
W
No
problem
so
good
an
example:
auto
publish
and
auto
inspire
the
highway
department
had
a
really
huge
turnout
for
one
of
their
positions,
mark
called
kelly
and
I
to
ask
to
take
it
down
from
facebook,
etc.
Now
that
that
position
has
closed
the
application
for
it,
we
wouldn't
have
to
worry
about
that.
We
would
set
a
date
and
it
would
take
it
down.
W
One
of
my
favorite
things
is
applications
will
be
accepted
online.
That's
a
huge
deal.
You'll
see
that
on
my
next
slide.
Currently,
we
are
not
able
to
do
that
on
our
current
website
and
then
users
can
receive
additional
updates.
Let's
say
if
they
subscribe
to,
that
notify
me
tool,
they'll,
get
updates
on
jobs,
here's
what
it
looks
like
now.
W
This
is
how
they
are
currently
submitting
their
applications
through
our
current
website.
This
is
what
it
will
look
like
on
the
new
website.
This
is
an
example
from
a
county
in
a
city
in
florida,
under
pasco
county.
I
believe
they
are
able
to
apply
directly
on
the
website
and
it
will
go
straight
to
their
human
resources.
Director.
W
Almost
finished
here
modern
layout
and
easy
navigation.
You
can
kind
of
read
these
through
yourself,
but
the
idea
here
is
really
connecting
our
social
media
platforms.
How
is
it
looking
to
the
people
who
are
viewing
the
information,
so
sometimes
people
don't
realize
that
it's
going
to
look
different
than
what
you
see
on
your
phone
versus
a
computer.
W
So
I
put
that
example,
so
you
can
see
it
our
layout
with
civic
plus,
would
automatically
change
to
if
someone
were
viewing
it
on
their
desktop
if
they
were
viewing
it
on
their
tablet
or
their
phone,
that's
really
nice.
I
know
kevin
can
speak
to
that,
because
that's
kind
of
sometimes
hard
to
do
so.
We
wouldn't
have
to
worry
about
that.
We
would
also
be
able
to
build,
modify
and
add
new
tools.
W
So,
if
anything
that
we
are
not
happy
with
or
if
we
want
to
create
a
new
module,
we
are
able
to
do
that
at
no
extra
cost.
So
let's
say
I
wanted
to
add
a
calendar
with
all
of
the
community
events
in
the
county.
I
could
add
that
module
myself
I
wouldn't
have
to
reach
out
to
our
website
developer,
to
do
that
and
currently
right
now
we
are
doing
that
we're
reaching
out
to
our
current
website
developer,
to
add
just
one
little
thing
on
our
website,
which
sometimes
could
take
a
while.
W
This
is
a
good
example
from
porter
county
indiana.
I
wanted
to
point
this
out
because
everything
again
on
our
current
website
would
just
look
into
more
modern.
They
list
all
of
their
departments
here
services.
I
really
love
this.
How
do
I
and
again,
all
of
these
kind
of
look
the
same,
but
they're
kind
of
you
make
it
to
what
you
want
it
to
look
like
this
would
be
their
faqs
page.
How
do
I
example?
How
do
I
pay
my
court
bill?
How
do
I
apply
for
a
job
things
like
that?
W
A
A
And
that's
the
house
within
their
site:
we
don't
we,
we
don't
want
to
be
responsible
for
protecting
people's
personal
financial
information.
You
see
where
I'm
going
with
that.
So
we
don't
want
that
on
the
server
for
security
reasons
as
well.
So
on
it's
really.
A
broad
question
is:
please
stop
the
we.
The
elected
officials
have
their
own
websites,
so
the
sheriff
is
still
going
to
have
his
own
website.
A
You
know
the
circuit
and
county
clerk
and
when
they
click
on
it,
on
departments
it'll
just
by
county
clerk,
it'll
just
punch
right
into
his
it'll
leave
hours,
it'll
open
in
a
new
window
and
then
it'll
go
into
there
because
we
don't
maintain
their
sights.
Nor
do
we
want
to
so
it'll,
be
a
quick
jump
out.
You
know
it's
like:
where
do
I
go
for
a
marriage
license
well
that'll,
be
in
our
faq,
you
go
to
the
you
know
the
county
clerk
and
then-
and
maybe
we
put
on
there-
here's
the
link.
A
I
will
see
how
that
works
out
later,
but
in
terms
of
like
dell
system,
it's
just
gonna
be
there'll,
be
a
planning
department.
What
they
do.
You
know
that'll
all
work
out,
but
it'll
punch
into
his
new
system.
That's
all
mobile
compliant.
You
know
it
adapts
automatically
to
the
mobile
okay
as
well.
Okay,
yeah
yeah
lots
of
little
things
like
that
to
work
through
over
the
next
six
months.
Believe
me
there's
a
lot
of
it.
W
W
It's
like
is
that
me:
okay,
google,
translation.
It
translates
to
over
100
languages,
the
gis
system.
We
are
able
to
still
incorporate
our
maps
for
the
planning
department.
I
know
that
question
came
up
credit
card
processing.
It
would
be
something
that
could
be
an
option.
We
don't
have
to
take
that
on
again.
The
chairman
kind
of
spoke
to
that
88
ada
compliance
checker
is
another
big
tool
because
you
want
to
make
sure
we're
in
ada
compliance.
W
So
when
we
are
making
a
new
web
page
or
when
we're
typing
out
something,
it's
kind
of
like
spell
check,
there's
a
little
check
box
that
you
can
check
and
it
makes
sure
to
tell
you
that
you're
in
compliance,
if
you're
not
it
will
tell
you
what
you
need
to
do,
make
your
words
bigger.
Put
this
in
bold,
make
this
picture
bigger.
W
So
that
is
a
really
nice
feature
as
well.
Statistics
will
be
able
to
measure
things
on
our
website
how
people
are
interacting
with
it
bids
graphic
links.
I
put
that
on
there
because
that's
huge
the
videos
that
we're
doing
right
now
we'll
be
able
to
link
those
through
our
youtube
channel,
so
that
would
make
it
very
visual
as
well.
W
W
These
are
just
awards
and
recognitions
that
civic
plus
has
won
most
recently.
They
won
the
stevie
awards
for
sales
and
customer
service.
Again
they
have
already
been
really
supportive
and
then
this
kind
of
talks
about
what
I
was
mentioning
earlier.
Their
years
of
experience
and
nevada
county
california
won
their
2020
award
for
government
experience,
and
if
you
have
a
chance,
their
website
is
awesome.
I
would
check
that
out:
nevada
county
california,
ongoing
services
hosting
in
security,
software
updates
and
full
backups
we've
been
consulting
with
kevin.
Everything
will
stay
with
our
servers.
W
There's
no
security
concerns
civic
plus,
they
told
us
our
role
and
then
we
told
them
their
role.
So
we've
already
been
talking
about
that
ongoing
maintenance
is
what
you're
going
to
see
in
this
proposal
here
in
your
packet.
That
includes
the
cost
to
maintain
it
year
after
year,
review
of
site
assigned
a
client
success
manager.
We
would
always
have
this
person
for
support.
They
don't
leave
the
moment.
W
Our
website
goes
live,
they
will
always
be
available,
and
that
is
the
the
tool
that
I
love
the
most
honestly,
because
I
know
how
tedious
websites
can
be,
and
you
really
want
to
access
that
person
on
the
other
end,
help
center
tutorials
workshop
workshops
and
training.
They
will
also
come
in
or
not
come
in,
I'm
sorry.
They
will
train
our
staff
via
zoom.
I
would
love
for
them
to
come
in,
but
yeah
they
would
train
us,
and
here
is
the
implementation
timeline
and
this
kind
of
wraps
up
my
presentation.
W
W
They
have
a
whole
team
that
does
the
document
center,
so
they
would
be
able
to
bring
it
over,
but
it's
not
just
something
that
can
happen
in
a
week.
It's
going
to
take
a
while,
like
the
chairman,
said
it's
going
to
take
a
few
months,
if
not
longer,
but
we
want
to
start
moving
ahead
on
this
now
they
get
really
busy
around
the
end
of
the
year
because
they
talk
about
the
fiscal
year.
So
that's
it.
I'm
here
for
questions.
A
So
yeah,
just
just
so
the
the
committee
knows
we've
approved
of
the
website
on
the
full
board
side
that,
yes,
we're
going
to
do
that.
This
was
to
come
back
with
the
number
on
what
that
is,
and
it
will
allow
if
you
motion
and
approve
it,
will
allow
us
to
sign
the
agreement
and
start
running
on
doing
this.
So
we're
it's
not
going
to
go
back
to
full
board.
It's
release
the
hounds.
You
know
we're
going
to
start
moving
on
on
this
type
of
a
tool.
A
So
the
only
thing
I'll
say
beyond
you
know
the
the
process
and
the
good
job
great
job
that
jasmine
did
was.
Is
I've
done?
Oh,
I
don't
know
maybe
30
websites
over
the
years
and
there's
a
reason
that
this
choice
is
in
front
of.
You
is
because
they're
specialists
and
what
we
do
every
time
that
something
new
is
built.
We
get
it
and
we're
seeing
what
that
problem
is
when
you
don't
get
that
through.
A
Sometimes
there
may
be
a
small
charge
for
something
that
requires
coding
and
programming,
but
for
the
most
part
we
have
a
true
partner
on
a
communication
tool
that
is
more
than
cutting
edge
is
bleeding
edge
and
in
the
letter
in
your
packet
they
spoke
to
the
things
that
we're
asking
for,
and
I
don't
know
you,
you
can
better
frame
that
up
jasmine.
How
do
they
categorize?
What
we're
looking
to
do
with
arpa
and
other
things.
W
W
He
said
that
while
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
for
new
websites
with
the
arpa
funding
to
directly
tie
the
two
that
kankakee
county
would
be
among
the
first,
if
not
the
first,
and
I
know
he
sales.
So
I
asked
him
a
lot
of
questions,
but
he
mentioned
that.
The
way
that
we
are
trying
to
do
it
combine
our
arpa
website
and
our
current
website
and
two
kind
of
two
into
one.
It's
a
package
deal,
it
would
be
a
leader
and
they
would
use
kankakee
county
as
an
example
and
in
your
packet.
G
Presentation-
and
you
guys
collaborating
on
this
thing-
it's
it's,
it's
really
just
phenomenal
and
it's
I
think
it's
going
to
skyrocket
us.
You
know
in
the
state
and
and
probably
you
know
nationally
in
terms
of
what
you
guys
have
been
doing,
and
I
appreciate
the
collaboration
and
it
probably
reaffirms
your
your
decision,
our
collaborative
decision
to
to
employ
her
good
stuff.
A
P
A
Yeah
the
motion
would
include
that
because,
as
you
saw,
those
banners,
those
beautiful
hero
pictures,
we
call
them,
though
we
need
to
do
that
for
our
county
and
some
of
it
we
can
do
ourselves
like
if
it's
new
things
you've
seen
the
commercials
where
people
are
making
movies
with
the
new
iphones.
We've
got
one
of
those,
but
there's
going
to
be
stuff
that
we're
going
to
need
to
have
professionally
shot
or
you
know,
like
you
know,
someone
that's
got
a
drone.
A
We
can't
lean
on
the
sheriff's
department
to
go
out
and
do
that,
but
maybe
they
have
some
time
well.
Yeah
then
we'd
have
to
do
some
type
of
a
an
agreement,
but
we
just
don't
it's
a
not
to
exceed
number.
We
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
7
500,
but
just
so
we
can
keep
running
and
keep
getting
these
images
when
it's
time
to
get
them.
So,
yes,
sir,
mr
long
all
right
glad.
M
So
I'm
sure
there's
been
some
thought
about
if
we
have
another
disaster,
amtrak
flooding
whatever,
so
that
we
can
do
updating
through
our
website
and
those
kinds
of
things
and
then
the
post
trauma
you
know
because,
like
with
every
disaster,
comes
the
recovery
part
and
usually,
if
there's
a
declaration
or
whatever
there's
a
lot
of
paper
that
has
to
be
gone
through.
Can
we
add
those
kinds
of
things
to
our
website,
not
just
the
in-house
things
but
add
like
the
applications
for
disaster
assistance
and
those
kinds
of
things.
A
W
I
was
just
gonna
say
we
talked
about
that
and
that's
another
reason
why
they
are.
They
are
our
choice
because
we
are
able
to
add
as
we
go
if
that
could
be
a
certainly
new
module,
then
that
is
something
we
can
do.
Otherwise
it
can
go
in
our
form
center,
but
if
we
need
to
create
something
on
the
go,
we
definitely
can
because
I
thought
about
the
disaster
near
the
courthouse.
Well,
you
know
that's
something
on
the
go.
That's
unexpected
just
like
covet,
so
we
can
do
that.
A
This
company
offers
a
part
of
a
a
upsell,
the
ability
to
ping
a
tower
and
hit
all
cell
phones
with
an
emergency
text
message
within
x
amount
of
radius
of
where
that
event
is
it
was
I
really
liked
that
idea,
but
the
problem
with
doing
that
is
then
we're
doing
it
and
then
potentially
schools
are
doing
it
the
sheriff's
doing
something
else.
You
really
need
one
hub
of
emergency
information
and
as
the
the
guy
who's,
the
ema
former,
and
you
know
current,
you
know
person
who's.
A
On
top
of
that,
I
know
that
I
talked
to
the
sheriff
and
there
is
a
broader
discussion
going
on
with
the
schools
and
law
enforcement
about
how
to
best
attack
that
situation
on
that
that
emergency
alert,
but
in
another
application,
would
be
to
when
we
we
mapped
all
where
the
flooding
damage
was.
We
can
put
those
maps
because
gis
works
on
this
site.
It's
not
a
static
image.
A
You
can
actually
manipulate
it,
but
we
can
put
those
maps
out
or
people
can
sign
up
for
anytime
there's
a
flood
event
you
know
will
require
us
to
go
in
and
put
out
no
flood
event.
You
know
and
and
do
that
type
of
thing
we
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
not
creating
competing
informational
systems
of
what's
out
there,
because
the
whole
goal
is
to
be
able
to
save
one
point
of
contact
for
all
of
that.
G
A
See
videos
that
teach
people
how
to
use
the
website
pushing
it
out
there
once
we
get
it
going,
it
will
be
launched.
You
know,
like
you,
said
in
service,
it
could
be
in
a
full
board
meeting.
We
run
through
it.
You
know,
and
then
so
the
public
sees
it
as
well,
but
yeah,
there's
gonna,
be
a
lot
of
you
know:
informational,
faq,
pre
and
during
the
launch
of
this
and
really
ongoing
yeah.
You
know
that
kind
of
stuff.
G
A
Allows
well,
we
could
put
this
on
channel
four
if
we
wanted
but
or
the
city
would
allow
it
yeah
and
the
other
municipalities
control
their
own
channel
four.
You
know
bradley
mantino,
whatever
those
are
so,
but
the
website
in
and
of
itself
is
not
something
that
probably
would
go
on
the
television,
but
I
I
don't
know
the
connections
in
kankakee.
A
I
know
that
their
system
is
very
antiquated,
like
really
antiquated
like
I
I
don't
know
they
might
be
on
dos
still,
I
don't
know,
but
it's
old
and
so
they're
very
limited
on
what
they
can
push
out
to
that
channel.
So
I
don't
know
about
mantino,
because
it's
on
a
different
system
than
the
other
ones.
So
any
other
thoughts.
So
we
have.
We
have
motions,
correct
roll
call
vote.
Please.
A
Just
an
fyi
we
did
try
to
work
with
a
local
company,
but
the
the
local
company
is,
you
know,
no
fault
of
their
own.
They
just
can't
offer
the
same
type
of
scale
because
any
time
again,
we
do
an
update.
We
want
all
these,
they
don't
have
all
the
bells
and
whistles
they're
they're
they're
a
solid
company,
and
I
hope
they
do
well,
but
for
what
we're
looking
to
do
that
just
wasn't
apples
and
oranges
at
all.
You
know
it
was
not
even
close,
all
right,
other
business
next
up
is
the
auditor.