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From YouTube: Finance Committee 4/26/2017
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Finance Meeting 4/26/2017 9:00AM
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B
B
B
Mr.
Johnson
mr.
lo
Jess
mr.
Washington
mr.
Vickery
mr.
Hass
mr.
Mulcahy
mr.
Scott
mr.
C
Roy
president
mr.
Hildebrand
mr.
I
info
Miss
Webber
mr.
Peyton
mr.
Ritter
Rogan
mr.
wheeler,
mr.
leer,
we
have
a
quorum
all
right,
we're
going
to
go
straight
into
executive
session.
So
if
I
could
have
a
motion
to
enter
executive
session
zero.
Second,
mr.
Lee
Jess
and
we
will
have
a
roll
call
vote.
Mr.
B
B
C
C
C
C
C
C
Thank
you.
Alright,
we
have
item
number
three
resolution
for
the
approval
of
early
term
lease
termination
agreement
for
270
North
Schuyler
Avenue
can
I
have
a
motion
mr.
Eagle
adjust.
Second
mr.
Washington
and
mr.
row
will
speak
on
that
sure.
So
the
early
termination
agreement
that
you're
voting
on
the
terms
of
that
would
be
that
lease
for
270
North
Schuyler,
the
state's
attorney's
office,
would
terminate
effective
May
31st
of
this
year.
C
The
roughly
$70,000
in
backwards
additional
rent
that
is
owed
to
the
landlord
would
be
negotiated
down
to
$40,000
payable
at
1666
dollars
a
month
for
two
years,
beginning
July,
1st
2017.
The
county
would
then
have
no
future
lease
obligations
to
that
space.
It
would
probably
save
going
forward
the
rent
that
would
come
due
over
the
next
year,
the
additional
rent
plus
the
fact
that
we've
negotiated
down
the
backwards
rent.
C
C
D
C
We
do
more
in
Northern
Illinois
than
anyone
and
you
may
be
asking
what
is
an
electric
aggregation
program
in
2007.
Excuse
me
in
2011,
the
state
of
Illinois
wanted
to
get
more
residents
involved
in
choice
in
electricity
other
than
just
Commonwealth
Edison.
So
they
passed
a
legislation
allowing
municipalities
and
counties
to
act
as
the
purchasing
agent
shall
we
say,
or
negotiate
lower
rates,
but,
interestingly
enough,
on
behalf
of
their
residents,
home
electric
bills
and
currently.
C
D
A
A
B
Have
been
working
on
renewals.
Currently,
we
see
favorable
pricing
out
there,
the
ComEd
rate,
all
rates,
unfortunately,
don't
shoot
the
messenger
all
rates
are
going
up
in
com,
Ed's
territory,
starting
June
1st.
The
ComEd
base
rate
is
going
from
six
point:
three
sons
to
seven
point:
two
cents.
So
that's
a
increase
of
rate
around
fifteen.
G
The
contracts
have
been
supplier
contributions
to
the
county
and
over
each
year
we've
seen.
Contributions
from
the
suppliers
on
behalf
to
the
county
is
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
eighty-five
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year.
So
it's
a
it's
a
boost
to
to
the
county
as
well.
We
also
have
included
a
number
of
smaller
towns
in
the
in
the
aggregation
about
ten
smaller
towns,
we're
not
talking
about
Kankakee
or
Bradley,
or
bonus
I,
guess
I'm,
showing
my
age
bourbonnais
and,
as
a
result,
these
smaller
towns
are
able
to
participate
as
well.
G
You
probably
let
me
ask
if
there
is
any
questions
or
anything
else
that
we
might
be
able
to
bring
up
Thank
You
chairman.
It's
come
up
in
other
settings
where
we
talked
about
this
and
I've
had
board
members.
Ask
how
much
we
pay
you
to
do
this.
It's
a
fair
question!
You
pay
me
nothing.
We
act
as
a
broker,
so
they
sip
so
for
managing
the
program.
G
Educating
you
helping
you
through
the
resolution
or
excuse
me
the
referendums
going
through
the
entire
process
and
then
presenting
that
to
the
various
suppliers
kind
like
a
real
estate
agent.
They
pay
us
to
bring
them
the
business,
so
there's
no
payments
from
the
county
to
us
directly
at
all
and
subsequently,
by
the
way,
if
you
tree
that
the
pricing
doesn't
come
in
favorably,
you
choose
not
to
renew
and
send
everybody
back
to
commit.
Our
compensation
is
zero.
G
G
G
Can
pass
them
out
as
you
alright.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr.
wheeler.
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
when
we
come
back
to
Finance,
everybody
understood
the
process
once
we
get
these
rates
going
forward,
so
we'll
be
working
on
that
and
then
bring
them
back
a
number
when
the
time
comes.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
H
Thank
you
all
right.
We
will
move
on
to
the
next
item
on
the
agenda,
which
is
the
approval
of
the
March
29th
minutes,
some
like
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
mr.
Paden.
Second,
mr.
Washington,
all
those
in
favor,
say
aye,
aye,
opposed,
nay
motion
carries.
We
will
move
on
to
the
next,
which
is
the
county
auditor's
office.
Mr.
Lee
not
be
with
us
today,
but
we
would
like
to
entertain
a
motion
to
accept
the
monthly
claims.
So
mr.
C
Roy
ii
accept
monthly
claims,
mr.
Hildebrand
and
there
will
be
a
roll
call.
H
I
I
I
They
just
moved
one
part-time
person
to
a
full-time
position.
So
now
it's
at
still
at
the
count
of
sixteen
down
under
the
patrol
division,
Sheriff
administrative
lieutenants-
they
had
one
lieutenant
retire,
so
they've
lost
one
full-time
person,
then
taking
the
administration
as
well.
As
patrol
you
see
to
the
side,
there
is
a
total
of
forty.
Four
deputies
now
merit
commissioned
there.
That's
a
special
committee,
there's
been
two
part-time
people
placed
the
bare
so
now,
they're
count
is
up
to
five
under
the
correction
division.
I
I
Okay,
there's
no
questions
we'll
move
on
to
our
insurance,
Mike
Lynch
hi,
we're
going
to
kind
of
make
a
presentation
here
in
three
parts
this
morning
on
my
far
right
is
a
representative
of
United,
healthcare
or
Curtin.
Sure
Rory
will
born
and
Lori
is
going
to
discuss
the
sheet
that
you
have
in
front
of
you,
which
is,
is
basically
the
experience
report
that
we
receive
on
a
monthly
basis
and
talk
about
that,
how
it
affects
the
renewal
process
if
you
will
and
globally
my
name
is
Mike
Lynch
and
I'll
be
talking
about
the
HRA
portion.
I
Where
is
one
of
five
pieces
of
insurance?
That
is
a
part
of
the
offering
you
HC
makes
and
then
on.
My
left
here
is
Dave
under
Koffler
and
Dave's,
going
to
put
the
HRA
and
the
health
insurance
plan
together
kind
of
in
an
overview
to
show
how
one
is
affected
by
the
other.
If
you
will
so
having
said
that
I'm
going
to
let
Lori
go
ahead
and
give
you
an
overview
of
this
experience
and
we'll
start
there.
Thank
you
good
morning.
So
with
United
Healthcare,
when
we
look
at
a
client,
that's
fully
insured.
I
We
look
at
your
experience
and
your
experience
is
a
portion
of
your
renewal
calculation,
the
larger
the
group,
the
more
the
experience
adds
towards
that
renewal
calculation.
So,
when
we
look
at
this
premium
versus
claims
on
the
very
left
side,
we're
going
to
be
looking
always
at
a
rolling
24
months,
12
months
being
the
prior
period,
12
months
being
the
current
period
and
then
the
prior
12
months
would
be
the
former
period.
So
when
we
redo
the
renewal,
we
look
at
two
policy
periods,
former
twelve
months
and
the
most
current
twelve
months.
I
Members
are
actually
the
number
of
say
belly
buttons
are
so
how
many
employees,
how
many
spouses,
how
many
children
are
on
the
plan
subscribers
equals
the
number
of
employees.
So
that's
the
count
of
employees
by
month
on
the
plan.
What
this
report
is
doing
is
it's
taking
that
premium
column,
which
is
the
premium
the
fully
insured
premium
paid
to
United
Healthcare
and
comparing
it
to
the
total
payments
column,
which
is
the
third
column
to
the
to
the
right
of
the
exhibit
and
it's
putting
a
loss
ratio.
So
it's
a
premium
versus
claims,
loss
ratio.
I
A
I
150,000
dollar
claim
we
removed
from
the
renewal
calculation
as
of
right
now,
the
most
recent
12
months
of
claims.
We
have
two
claims
that
have
exceeded
that
150,000
dollars,
so
anything
above
150
will
be
removed
in
that
renewal
calculation
and
as
we
move
through
the
calendar
year,
this
report
may
fluctuate,
but
these
two
claimants
will
stay
the
large
claimants
as
long
as
they
fall
within
the
most
recent
claim.
Experience
period.
I
H
I
H
At
these
claims
from
a
prescription
drug
standpoint,
outpatient
surgery,
inpatient
surgery,
it
also
gives
you
the
opportunity
to
look
at
the
claims
by
subscriber,
which
is
employee,
spouse
and
dependents.
If
you
look
at
the
very
bottom
right
corner,
the
3
million
dollars
is
the
total
expenditure
46.2%.
H
H
Another
piece
to
the
entire
process
is
trend
and
medical
trend
and
pharmacy
trend.
When
you
look
at
the
very
first
line,
prescription
solutions,
that's
all
the
prescriptions
when
you
go
to
the
pharmacy
or
when
you
use
the
mail-order
and
a
prescription
is
filled.
That's
running
currently
at
about
sixteen
point:
five
percent
of
total
claims
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
trend
when
Dave
talks
a
little
bit
more
about
trend
and
how
that
impacts.
The
next
report
is
an
extremely
busy
report.
A
few
highlighted
items
that
I
want
to
just
point
out
to
you.
H
H
Any
questions
I
have
a
question
I'm,
going
back
to
the
first
sheet
on
the
claims
to
premium
ratio.
So
for
the
current
period
we
run
out
95.8%.
What
typically
is
a
good
ratio
there?
Where
would
you
want
us
to
be
operating
at
UnitedHealthcare,
has
to
comply
with
in
the
health
care
reform
guidelines,
so
our
target
loss
ratio
is
85%,
so
basically,
this
is
running.
You
know
a
little
hotter
than
what
our
target
would
be.
This
is
on
health
care.
Reform
is
85%
kind
of
like
the
industry
average,
or
is
everyone
above
that
target?
H
We
measure
our
entire
book
of
business
by
that
85
percent.
If
United
Healthcare
is
maintaining
a
loss
ratio
higher
than
that
85
percent,
that
is
a
loss
that
goes
back
to
United
Healthcare.
If
we
maintain
a
loss
ratio
that
is
below
85
percent,
we
need
to
rebate
and
refund
our
employer
groups
based
on
their
portion
of
claims
because
of
health
care
reform.
So
that's
a
guideline
that
we
have
to
target
and
we
have
to
perform
our
business
to
that
loss
ratio.
H
H
H
One
of
the
five
plans
is
what
is
called
an
HRA
health
or
health
reimbursement
arrangement,
and
it
is
the
most
popular
plan
in
of
the
bunch.
In
these
five
plans
in
2016,
the
HRA
plan
was
a
$5,000
deductible.
It
had
an
office
visit
feature,
it
had
a
drug
card
feature
and
of
that
$5,000.
The
county
reimburses
4,000
of
the
5,000.
The
employee
is
responsible
for
a
thousand
of
the
5,000.
F
Always
based
on
the
number
of
wives,
so
it's
a
floating
number
from
one
month
to
the
other,
but
at
the
end
of
the
year
in
2016
there
was
approximately
a
liability.
I
mean
everybody
on
the
plan
and
submitted
an
HRA
claim
of
approximately
2
million
$17,000
now
perspective,
the
usage
at
12:31
2016
was
328
thousand
four
hundred
and
eighty
one
dollars
and
you'll
see
in
this
2017
report
that
there's
another
twelve
thousand
one
hundred
dollars.
It
has
to
be
applied
to
2016,
because
it's
runoff
claims
from
2016
that
were
submitted
in
2017
are
being
reimbursed.
F
So
the
total
of
that
two
million
seventeen
thousand
dollars
comes
to
about
three
hundred
and
forty
thousand
five
hundred
and
eighty
one
dollars.
It's
approximately
seventeen
percent
usage
of
the
entire
amount,
so
you're
in
it
ran
very
very
well
against
our
health
insurance
plan,
which
is
a
little
bit
hotter
than
that
it
had
a
higher
liability
or
a
higher
loss
ratio.
So,
having
said
that,
here
we
sit
in
331
2017
and,
to
kind
of
give
you
a
perspective,
the
331
of
16
numbers,
the
year-to-date
figure.
F
We
had
a
90
thousand
nine
hundred
to
$75
submission
at
that
point
or
the
average
at
the
end
of
331.
2016
was
about
thirty
thousand
325
here
in
331
2017.
What
we
have
is
a
little
bit
different
feature
in
that
of
the
five
plans.
The
HRA
was
changed
this
year
and
we
have
a
higher
liability
that
the
county
has
instead
of
a
five
thousand
dollar
deductible,
we
have
a
six
thousand
dollar
deductible.
The
county
reimburses
five
thousand
of
the
six
thousand.
F
The
employee,
contractually
is
limited
to
the
thousand
dollars,
so
we
have
a
higher
liability,
but
our
thought
was
based
on
the
you
know:
the
good
performance
of
the
HRA
last
year.
This
was
a
place
to
take
a
position
where
we
could
save
some
more
money
by
buying
a
higher
deductible,
which
we
did,
and
so
so
far
this
year,
with
a
liability
of
about
two
million
ten
thousand,
a
few
less
people,
the
year-to-date
figure
right
now
and
you'll
see
that
in
the
box
that
says,
transactions
paid.
Seventy
five
thousand
five,
forty
four.
F
If
you
divide
that
number
by
three,
it
equals
around
twenty
five
thousand
dollars.
Twenty-Five
thousand
one!
Eighty
one
so
monthly
right
now,
even
with
a
higher
liability,
we're
running
very,
very
low,
but
I
caution
you
it's
early
in
the
year
and
as
we've
seen
before,
some
of
these
good
positive
numbers
change
very
quickly,
so
I
think
we
made
a
good
bet
in
the
sense
that
last
year
tells
us
that
you
know
our
usage
was
below
twenty
percent
I
hope
to
see
that
again
and
so
far
we're
on
the
mark.
F
H
There,
if
you'll
see
the
year-to-date
number,
that's
the
twelve
thousand
126,
which
is
applicable
to
2016
and
then
finally,
they
add
those
total
transactions
at
the
bottom,
and
it
gives
you
a
total
number.
So
overall,
I
would
say
the
plans
themselves.
Although
they're
running
a
little
hot
in
terms
of
the
loss
ratio,
the
HRA
is
running
very
well
and
so
the
last
part
of
this
discussion.
F
All
right,
well,
I
thought
what
I
would
do
is
kind
of.
You
have
a
lot
of
reports
there.
A
lot
of
numbers
make
your
head
spin.
If
you
spend
too
much
time
looking
at
all
those
numbers,
what
does
all
this
mean
to
the
county?
You
guys
are
looking
at.
You
know,
finances
for
this
when
I
look
at
these
numbers,
I
try
to
project
ahead.
What
is
this
going
to
mean
want
to
come
to
renewal
time?
Remember
last
year
now
we're
at
January.
D
Plan
isn't
just
100
percent
a
we
buy
this
premium
from
United
Healthcare,
think
of
it
for
the
money
that
the
county
is
spending
about.
75%
of
it
is
that
insurance
piece
and
about
25%,
and
essentially
your
self
funding
it
through
the
HRA
now
you're
buying
a
higher
deductible
and
funding
it
down
for
the
individuals.
So
Lorraine
talked
about
a
96
percent
loss
ratio,
but
yet
you
know
that
health
care
wants
you
to
be
at
85.
So
that's
not
great!
That's
not
the
good
news.
D
We'd
like
to
be
able
to
come
out
here
and
say:
I
wish.
You
were
running
85
percent
if
you're
running
at
96
percent
loss
ratio
right
now,
medical
trends
are
running
about
9%
utilizations
we're
seeing
that
ticked
up
specialty
drugs
is
something
that
we're
really
driving
medical
inflation
and
trends.
So
if
you
were
running
at
85%,
I'd
sit
back
here
and
say
you
should
prove
project
probably
about
a
trend.
Increase
about
a
9%
increase
is
what
you
would
probably
be
seeing.
Well
you're
running,
10%
worse
than
our
11%.
D
J
H
We're
looking
at
a
ten
percent
or
about
a
trend
increase
on
your
plan,
so
I
guess,
like
Mike,
said
just
a
minute
ago,
when
we
took
on
a
little
bit
more
risk,
the
county
took
on
a
little
bit
more
risk
January.
First
so
far
it
looks
like
a
good
thing,
because
you're
actually
paying
out
less
than
we
even
anticipated
through
only
through
three
months
but
through
three
months
for
the
health
reimbursement,
account
and
I
know.
That's
it's
early
in
the
projections.
H
We
won't
come
back
firm
numbers
into
what
August
or
something
like
that
for
the
renewal,
but
we
want
to
keep
you.
You
know
advising
on
how
the
plan
is
running,
so
there
won't
be
any
surprises.
Hopefully
when
it
come
back
in
August,
you
know.
Another
perspective
might
keep
in
mind.
Is
that
when
we
started
this
process
we
had
gotten
a
24%
increase.
Last
year
we
got
that
down
to
20%
in
discussions
with
the
United
Healthcare,
then.
K
H
All
of
these
changes
to
the
plans
the
dictate
was
to
come
in
under
3%,
which
I
think
we
came
in
at
2.88.
So
that's
part
of
why
we
did
what
we
did.
We
altered
the
plans
to
get
the
numbers
down
so
now
we
sit
here
today
thinking
it's
a
pretty
good
bet
in
terms
of
taking
on
that.
Why
of
but
again
we
won't
know
for
sometime.
You
know
whether
that
stays
consistent.
You
know
with
time
and
adding
that
other
plan
had
my
notes
to
Harper
us
I
know:
Lorraine
talked
about
it.
A
D
A
So
what
the
county
did
is
in
order
to
keep
the
employees
contributions
low
and
offer
them
quality
plans
that
are
in
line
with
platinum,
gold,
silver
bronze
within
the
Affordable
Care
Act
tight
structure
was
to
assume
a
lot
of
risk
on
our
end,
and
so
this
wasn't
just
like
you
know,
poof
it
appeared
the
county
had
to
assume
a
lot
of
risk
on
that
side,
and
it's
worked
by
the
way
that
we've
set
up
these
plans,
and
that
was
in
conjunction
with
you
guys,
and
you
know
the
insurance
committee
this
past
year.
We
sat.
D
D
I,
don't
think
there's
nothing's
really
been
proposed.
Has
it
they
can't
even
can
come
up
a
lottery
number
two,
but
I
see
a
lot
of
talk
about
health
savings
accounts.
Having
said
that,
I
don't
know
what's
going
to
happen
in
these
committee
meetings
anymore
than
anybody
else
does,
but
I
think
if
they
do
raise
some
of
the
health
savings
account
deposit
amounts
right
now,
thirty
one
fifty
and
sixty
eight
fifty
or
sixty
seven.
Fifty,
you
know
they're
talking
about
raising
that
single
number
from
the
3000's
up
into
the
six.
D
L
With
you
know,
some
entities
like
United
Healthcare
feel
it's
it's
seventeen
to
twenty
percent,
but
other
entities
like
Blue,
Cross
or
somebody
else
think
specialty
drugs
are
twenty
five
to
thirty
percent
of
the
total
cost.
So,
with
that
being
such
a
significant
factor,
they're
going
to
have
to
figure
out
something
from
an
executive
perspective
in
DC
that
filters
down
and
negates
cost,
there's
no
other
way
that
you
can
say
it
I,
don't
think
so
other
than
that,
mr.
L
Vickery
I,
don't
know
you
know
that's
the
honest
answer
and
neither
does
anybody
else
until
they
get
a
committee
bill
to
bring
out.
Thank
you
any
other
questions
for
mr.
Lynch.
Yes,
mr.
Ely,
so
we're
still
looking
at
Cadillac
tax.
That's
still
part
of
it
potentially
2019
I
think
they
push
it
back.
They
said
here
it's
on
hole,
but
I
said
2018.
It
might
have
been
pushed
back
to
2020.
Forgive
me,
you're
gonna
push
back,
it's
still
there,
but
it
hasn't
been
taken
out
of
the
horrible
here.
It's
just
some.
L
We
may
want
to
look
at
as
far
as
a
rich
benefit
for
especially
when
we're
working
with
our
labor
partners
on
negotiating
contracts.
We
don't
want
to
get
tied
into
something
that
penalize
is
all
of
us
correct.
So
we
want
to
maybe
look
at
that
when
we're
doing
our
next
plan
and
at
this
point,
I
think
we
all
we
can
do
is,
as
we
know
the
law
today
right
and
so
when
we're
preparing
them.
L
When
we
come
back
in
August
or
whatever
it
might
get
totally
different
animal
who
knows
but
yeah
the
Cadillac
tax
is
still
on
still
in
the
books.
I
just
hope
the
new
laws
not
20-some
thousand,
it's
hope
they
read
it
any
other
questions.
I
think
it's
important
that
the
Department
had
that
we're
able
to
take
this
information
and
give
it
to
the
employees.
The
employees
as
well
need
to
know
where
we're
at
year-to-date,
with
our
loss
ratios
that
way
at
fiscal
year-end
or
when
we
start
that
the
next
the
process
of
renewing
our
insurance.
L
It's
not
a
surprise
when
we
see
if
we
see
increases
in
the
premiums,
but
it
surely
benefits
at
an
administration
level.
We
can't
keep
this
information
ourselves,
but
we
need
to
work
somehow
that
the
employees
are
knowledgeable
about
this
as
well
and
have
the
full
information
it's
my
opinion
very
good
point
are
any
other
questions
before
we
move
toward
all
right.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
L
What
orders?
Oh
yeah,
yeah
you
can
you'd
like
to
come
up
here,
please,
mr.
wheeler,
thank
you
for
the
the
committee's
pleasure,
I
guess
from
consideration.
We,
a
situation
came
up
where,
with
we
have
a
cyber
policy,
it's
a
small
line
in
our
current
liability
policy.
This
kind
of
came
up
when
the
Health
Department.
L
All
the
other
stuff
that
had
within
in
the
county
could
be
employee
information
that
kind
of
stuff,
with
all
those
risks
that
are
out
there,
that
we
had
the
opportunity
at
least
to
assess
what
happens.
You
know
if
heaven
forbid
something
happens
and
our
protection
as
far
as
you
know,
potential
lawsuits
and
things
like
that,
because
right
now
in
Homer,
can
explain
a
little
bit
about
you
know
what
our
current
coverage
is
in
limitations
and
maybe
what
might
be
available
to
us.
So,
chairman
I'm
George,
Ryan,
jr.
L
I,
am
your
current
property
casualty
insurance
agent
along
with
Mesirow
Ally,
an
insurance
company
out
of
Chicago
I,
was
here
last
year
and
we
provided
you
with
property
and
general
liability
insurance.
Typically,
when
you
buy
an
insurance
plan,
most
policies
do
not
include
any
light:
cyber
liability
as
with
directors
and
officers,
liability
errors
and
omissions.
Those
are
all
specialty
policies
that
are
normally
whydid
to
businesses
and
entities
like
municipalities
and
counties
there.
A
M
Day
on
it
and
the
woman
that
see,
experts
said
it's
like
a
teenager,
it's
17
years
old
and
the
market
is
still
trying
to
filter
out
how
to
provide
proper
coverages.
So
there
are
over
70
different
carriers
out
there
to
provide
cyber
liability,
but
we
have
identified
through
our
professional
services
and
the
people
we
work
with
three
or
four
carriers
that
would
likely
provide
you
with
the
best
coverage.
So
the
Chairman
asked
me
to
come
in
and
talk
about
that
briefly
with
you
to
let
you
know
that
we
are
exploring
the
market
right
now.
M
D
D
D
D
The
first
thing
we
like
to
do
is:
we
will
come
in
and
do
a
pre
loss
consultation
and
our
data
and/or
data
protective
devices
for
your
systems,
meaning
we
would
meet
with
your
department,
heads
NIT
for
everyone
in
the
county
if
and
help
them
help
mitigate
any
possibility
of
claims,
like
I,
said,
they're
already
doing
a
fine
job,
but
we
have
industry
experts
that
can
help
and
it
doesn't
cost
anything
to
do
it.
These
covers
these
policies
cover.
A
N
M
Somebody's
credit
is
between
70
and
140
dollars
a
year.
Multiply
that
and
that's
why
this
coverage
is
needed.
We
do
assistance
in
notification
protocols,
there's
access
to
public
relations,
firms
to
help
you
navigate
media
and
there's
a
myriad
of
services
that
are
involved
with
basically
keeping
your
system
safe,
so
I'm
just
here
today
to
tell.
A
M
Would
range
around
twelve
thirteen
thousand
dollars
with
five
and
ten
thousand
dollar
deductibles.
Our
team
will
be
here
in
May
to
talk
with
Andy
and
Profeta
and
department
heads
we
will
have
then
all
the
quotes
for
you
and
the
coverage
limits
and
then
we'll
make
recommendation
at
that
time.
So
that's
why
I'm
here
and
that's
what
we're
doing.
M
D
M
The
city
of
Kankakee
Andy,
my
understanding
from
Diana's
that
had
passed.
Is
that
not
the
case?
So
we
still
that
still
an
issue.
Well,
we
have
to
really
make
sure
I've
got
the
right
one
here,
I'm,
sorry,
because
they're
still
it
one
yeah,
there's
there's
two
of
them.
There
now
see
here,
there's
nothing
behind
the
other.
One
is
the
transference.
Okay,.
M
Okay
yeah:
this
is
the
one
where
at
the
time
we
didn't
realize
this,
but
with
that
demolition,
I
believe
the
the
checks
were
sitting
with
the
circuit
clerk's
office
right
now,
the
GAR
be
in
the
county
clerk's
office,
and
we
just
needed
this
committee's
permission
to
take
those
checks
and
just
basically
return
them
to
the
trustee
correct.
So
we
can.
M
This
situation
will
be
resolved,
correct
and
it's
more
of
a
finance
matter,
because
that's
why
we
just
kind
of
needed
of
you
know
of
a
motion
in
a
second
just
to
say:
hey,
go
ahead
and
return
those
checks,
since
this
property
is
obviously
was
demolished.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
could
clean
up
that
little
piece
of
business
and
it
didn't
it
didn't
cost
us
anything
other
than
returning
the
money
that
we
had
in
our
possession
right.
M
It's
just
the
check,
so
I
want
to
make
at
least
to
keep
everything
out
of
the
open
and
above
board.
So
Finance
knew
what
was
going
on.
We
should
want
to
just
return
the
checks
without
financing.
Only
so
are
we
gonna
have
ya
motion
and
say
yeah
any
questions
on
that.
Mr.
Vickery
motion
mr.
washington
ii,
I
think
mister
I'll
miss
really
Jesse
had
a
question
yeah
now
we're
talking
about
the
one
where,
without
notice
the
city
can't
ki
demolish
the
house
is
a
long
time.
I,
yep!
M
Well,
I,
don't
know
if
this
has
happened
before,
but
is
there
something
in
place
that
this
cannot
happen
again
where
they
don't
notify
us
that
they're
doing
something?
My
understanding,
mr.
legette,
is
what
happened
is
in
the
process
of
the
tax
fire
going
for
deed
in
that
process
and
the
time
it
took.
The
city
then
demolished
the
house
in
that
two-month
window
and
the
city
was
entitled
to
demolish
the
house.
They
had
a
lien
on
it.
They
went
through
their
court
process.
It
is
a
problem,
it
occurs
frequently
or
not.
M
This
doesn't
occur
frequently,
but
there
are
issues
with
the
city's
timing
of
yeah
and
it's
something
that
I'll
endeavor
to
work
closer
with
the
city
attorney
with
okay,
mr.
mealy,
all
we're
out
is
basically
some.
Is
there
any
fees
that
were
out?
No?
No,
it's
just
a
total
wash
because
the
checks
are
going
back
yeah.
They
were
never
can
right.
Any
other
questions
its
motion.
Second,
on
the
floor,
all
those
in
favor,
say
aye
opposed,
nay
motion
carries
so.
M
The
second
issue,
which
is
somewhat
similar,
was
a
trustee
property
that
there
was
a
problem
and
the
way
I
understand
it.
Is
they
called
it?
A
soft
title
problem
I
had
never
heard
that
term,
but
apparently
the
person
that
purchased
the
property
had
obligations
to
another
individual,
that
individual
exercised
his
legal
options
and
it
essentially
said
I
want
the
property
paid
for
it,
and
all
we're
doing
is
conveying
the
property
from
the
one
taxpayer
to
another
person.
There's
no
money
exchanged
it's
an
absolute
wash,
that's
really
and
that
that
the
the
lien
holder
is
who's.
M
Actually
it's
going
to
so
right
is
that
the
taxpayer
bought
these
in
the
lien
holder
head
leans
on
so
they're,
just
conveying
the
property
to
the
lien
all
right.
So
it's
I
think
it's
a
motion
to
combine
these
two
and
approve
that
the
the
final
resolution
is
the
last
page
of
the
combination
of
these
in
the
transfer.
Okay,
thank
you
for
clarifying
I,
believe,
oh,
you
have
dough.
M
M
A
M
M
M
M
M
So
what
we
have
right
now
we
have
a
mail
machine,
a
sorter,
an
inserter,
a
folder,
a
mail,
a
postage
portion
of
it
in
the
past.
Tax
bills
have
been
printed
in
the
treasurer's
office
on
the
Xerox
machines
they
have
been
then
given
to
the
auditor's
office.
Who
then
uses
the
machine
that
we
have
in-house
to
fold
stuff?
Then
they
were
given
to
the
maintenance
department
who
took
them
to
the
post
office.
M
That
was
the
way
it's
been
done
since
2013,
when
this
contract
was
signed
for
$2,000
a
month
for
60
months
for
the
mail
machine.
That's
the
way
it's
been
done.
I
am
NOT
doing
it
that
way
this
year
and
the
reason
is
simple:
it
doesn't
make
sense.
Financially
all
the
costs
associated
with
that
machine
never
take
into
account
the
cost
of
labor,
which
is
a
very
large
cost.
So,
for
example,
last
year
you
had
an
auditor
and
her
assistant
secretary
spend.
O
M
M
M
O
M
M
60
a
60
month,
$2,000
contract
per
month,
I
wasn't
around
for
that.
That's
not
the
way
I'm
going
to
do
it.
I,
don't
know
everything
all
I
know
is
what
I
can
do
and
do
it
to
the
best
of
my
ability.
That's
what
the
people
voted
me
in
for
that's
what
I
intend
to
do
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
guess
they
will
judge
me
whether
or
not
I
did
a
good
job.
M
There
used
to
be
teamwork
that
was
brought
up
at
the
meeting.
This
has
nothing
to
do
with
teamwork,
Jake
and
I.
Have
a
fabulous
relationship.
Eric,
Blair
and
I.
Have
a
fabulous
relationship
has
nothing
to
do
with
teamwork,
it's
straight
dollars
and
cents.
It
makes
no
sense.
I
have
two
staff
members.
How
would
I
take
them
for
for
a
week
a
week
and
a
half
to
do
the
tax
bills?
Mr.
M
O
M
O
D
This
year
were
printed
improperly
and
were
purchased
before
I
arrived,
which
added
an
additional
thousand
dollars,
which
next
year
would
go
away
so
would
take
us
down
to
around
$9,000,
because
I'm
fixing
them
buying
jetting
on
them.
Instead
of
ordering
new
envelopes,
so
I
cost
about
another
thousand
dollars
new
envelopes.
What
about
would
have
been
about
2200.
D
The
envelopes
have
arrived
at
the
printer
tax
bills
are
I've,
always
been
told,
not
to
say
exactly
when
they're
going
out,
but
they
are
going
out
on
the
15th,
which
means
they
will
be
due
by
the
15th
of
June,
which
means
Andy
Finance.
The
county
board
can
get
a
distribution
earlier
than
they
did
last
year
and
on
their
only
side
for
the
last
five
years
we
are
on
schedule
and
other
than
that.
I
would
entertain
any
questions.
D
See
Roy
mr.
chairman,
all
right,
Nick!
Well,
back
you
up
a
little
bit
too
to
the
pick
up
the
the
stamp
machine
that
were
60
months
for
$200
a
month.
You
said
2200
2200,
okay,
are
we
do
we
own
that
machine
or
which
constantly
rent
knavish
I,
mean
I,
believe
I'm
gonna
be
able
to
utilize
that
machine?
We
I
think
that
answer.
M
Is
best
left
to
Brian
GAD
boy,
but
my
understanding
is
that
we
are
in
a
lease
which
we're
working
on
right
now
with
the
company
to
mitigate
we're
obligated
through
2018
to
use
okay.
So
we
still
got
another
year
left
on
that
correct,
okay,
all
right,
okay
and
then
correct
the
now
I
understand
you.
Here's
where
here's
where
it
gets
confusing
it's
going
to
be
savings,
not
actually
you're
its
cost
savings,
but
not
actually
cost.
D
D
J
That
should
be
beaten
done
in
the
treasurer's
office.
Not
preparing
mailings
I
have
a
hotel/motel
tax
issue
that
I
will
talk
about
at
the
end
for
another
$80,000
that
hasn't
been
collected:
okay,
okay,
so
so
yes,
there's
labor
and
yes,
those
bodies
are
there.
There
are
two
bodies:
the
auditors
not
involved
and
not
going
to
be
involved,
and
it's
my
opinion
that
the
cost
savings
will
be
the
treasurer
doing
their
job.
J
Okay,
then
that's
where
I
and
not
paying
this.
That's
where
I
own
a
lot.
We
were
still
going
to
use,
not
just
your
two
people,
but
two
other
people
know
the
treasurer's
office
is
not
involved.
Okay,
gotcha.
Alright,
he's
made
that
clear.
All
right
that
auditors
are
I
mean
I'm,
sure
auditor's
office
is
I'm
not
willing
to
participate
in
the
he's
trying
to
audit
I,
get
it
okay.
So
all
right
that
was
my
question
earlier.
Thank
You,
mr.
M
Project,
it's
our
mail
machine
as
well,
so
it's
not
just
used
for
to
set
for
Erick's
purposes
on
the
assessment
books
that
he
has
to
do
and
for
the
treasurer
we
agreed
to
have
a
folder
insert
or
added
to
it.
That's
part
of
it.
I
think
that
lease
is
up
in
an
X
amount
of
months,
so
we're
still
going
to
need
the
mail
machine
here.
So
that
part
is,
is
there
is
fixed
cost
and
I'm
I
can't
tell
you
which
portion
is
which?
M
How
much
of
that
twenty
two
hundred
is
what
we
devoted
towards
this
project
and
I
as
I.
Remember
when
we
talked
about
the
cost
savings
to
do
this
in-house
the
holding
and
inserting
and
we're
supposed
to
save
us
like
forty
five
hundred
dollars
a
year
to
do
it
and
pretty
sure
that
I
asked
was
that
figuring
in
labor
costs
as
well
and
I
was
told
that
now,
whether
that
material
or
materialized
or
not,
you
can't
go.
M
You
can't
know
that
unless
you
go
back
and
do
an
analysis
of
exactly
how
much
time
was
spent
doing
it
versus
what
we're
paying
so
I
have
a
mic.
A
super
hip
I'm
at,
but
it
was
presented
as
a
overall
cost
savings,
whether
that
actually
materialized
or
not
I
can't
say
you
know
at
this
point
so
that
that
I
do
understand.
But
when
we
talk
about
budget
areal
allocations,
you
will
see
an
increase
and
whether
that
falls
within
his
budget
or
not
is
is
completely
up
to
the
treasurer.
M
You
know,
that's
it
if
he
feels
it's
a
good
use
of
his
budgetary
allocation.
That's
his
call,
and
you
know
this
as
I
told
Nick
when
we
were
talking
about
it.
Our
only
concern
is
that
and
that
the
tax
bills
go
out
and
I
feel
sure
that
that's
actually
happening
and
so
I
don't
have
a
you
know.
Any
other
issues
to
your
point,
though:
I'm
saddled
with
costs
from
last
year,
I
don't.
J
P
Can
appreciate
that
thought
process
and
actually
agree
with
it.
Typically,
though,
as
the
allocation
or
the
appropriations
arm
of
the
county,
we
would
like
to
be
in
on
that
process
and
we're
in
now,
but
we
would
like
to
be
in
on
it
to
say.
Well,
maybe
we
need
to
do
a
budget
amendment
to
allow
for
that
extra
$10,000,
because
that's
that's
what
we're
here
to
do.
P
I
appreciate
any
inning
I
think
that's
a
learning
curve
and
I'm
chastising
worth
it
and
it's
kind
of
like
you
can
see
why
some
of
those
questions
you
got
them
up.
You
bet
because
I
think
we're
more
than
willing
to
make
those
decisions
and
support
that
in
the
long
run.
So
I
appreciate
that,
though,
and
like
I
said,
I
apologize
for
any
learning
curve
that
you
know
I'm
still
traveling,
but
there
are
some
things
that
I
do
bring
to
bear
when
I
took
this
office.
P
P
It
seemed
that
you
made
that
decision,
but
I
didn't
know
that
you
had
contacted
or
worked
with
other
people
in
that
in
that
circle.
Okay,
we
had
in
the
past,
counted
on
the
auditor's
department,
Eric's
Department,
other
departments,
to
accomplish
these
tasks
and
you
made
a
decision
and
it
affected
everybody.
Okay,
so
that's
why
I
made
that
comment?
Okay,
then
we
all
needed
to
work
together.
Okay,
that's
that's
why?
Because
suddenly
something
that
was
being
accomplished
in
a
different
manner
wasn't
going
to
happen
and
now
I,
don't
know
how
that
affects.
P
Eric's
department,
I
have
good
poem.
Sorry
go
ahead.
I
appreciate
that
mr.
Vickery
I,
again
I
think
part
of
that
is
learning
learning
how
to
communicate.
I
do
speak
with
Eric
on
a
regular
basis.
I
do
speak
with
Jake
on
a
regular
basis.
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
Jake,
but
I
believe
his
intention.
All
along
was
not
to
dedicate
his
office
to
mailing,
but
that's
something
he
could
speak
better
to
I.
J
Q
For
whatever
labor
you
put
toward
that
project,
it's
being
taken
from
somewhere
else,
that's
essential,
that's
my
opinion.
It's
my
opinion
that
if
Brian
could
terminate
the
lease
and
we
could
get
out
of
it,
it
would
be
a
very
good
deal
because
I
guarantee
you
and
I'll
work
with
Eric.
He
can
get
his
tax
bills
printed
cheaper.
Then
we
can
do
it
that
I
guarantee
you
the
mail.
The
cost
of
the
post
office
is.
This
is
a
hard
cost.
Q
It
is
what
it
is,
we're
going
to
get
the
best
rate,
but
all
the
other
variables
there's
companies
that
print.
You
know
a
million
pieces
a
day.
This
is
what
they
do.
We
can't
do
it
better
than
they
can
and
we
don't
have
the
labor
I
don't
have
the
labor.
I
won't
speak
for
other
departments,
but
I
think
I
see
what's
going
on
fairly
well,
and
let
me
add
one
more
point
then,
but
there
was
a
tax
bill
notice
very
right.
R
R
In
and/or
dev
net
I
do
have
one
of
those
companies
that
got
back
to
me
and
as
Nick
alluded
to
the
the
postage
is
basically
a
sunk
cost.
It's
going
to
cost
us
the
same,
no
matter
what
we
do,
but
it
seems
to
me
with
with
one
of
the
companies
I
got
back
to
me.
It's
about
twenty
one
point
two
cents
per
piece
of
mail.
R
If
they
do
all
of
the,
if
they
order
the
envelopes
they
stuff
and
they
get
it
all
in
the
mail
and
I'll
have
probably
you
know,
thirty
to
thirty
two
thousand
pieces
of
mail
to
go
out
which
I
would
estimate
I,
did
it
on
the
calculator
just
before
I
got
up
here.
It's
about
sixty
five
hundred
dollars
or
so,
and
I
did
stayed
in
that
meeting
the
buildings
and
grounds
that
you.
N
For
this
year
was
not
built
to
incorporate
that
cost
in
I
was
assuming
that
that
lease
was
going
to
be
in
place
through
the
spring
of
2018
and
acknowledged
last
year,
when
I
built
this
budget
that
the
next
budget
would
either
have
to
include
a
cost
for
that
in
my
bottom
line,
or
maybe
be
shifted
to
the
central
services
budget.
If
that's
how
they
he
chooses
to,
you
know,
pay
that
that
cost
so.
D
The
things
that
are
going
on
there
I
would
assume
if
we
retain
that
machine
because
it
is
being
leased,
I
will
do
what
I
can
to
have.
One
of
my
staff
members
potentially
run
that
machine
for
this
one
year.
If
we
still
have
it
after
that
point
I'm
assuming
we're
not
going
to
renew
that
part
of
the
lease,
but
maybe
we
will
and
then
we'll
talk
about
that
at
a
later
date.
D
So
you
can
understand
where,
where
I'm
coming
from
on
that
on
that
issue,
is
it
affected
other
departments
and
in
change
creates
problems?
Okay,
thank
you
one.
Second,
mr.
dad
voice,
do
you
want
to
say
something
yeah
I've
been
in
contact
with
with
them
in
the
last
couple
weeks.
Since
all
this
came
up,
it
roughly
cost
about
$600.
M
Get
to
me
is
$600
a
month
now
we're
not
current
on
those
payments.
Keep
in
mind
that
what
they've
said
to
me
is
what
they'll
do
is
come
here.
We
get
current.
We
pay
one
month,
one
quarter
in
advance
and
now
rewrite
the
lease
and
make
the
Machine
go
away.
We
would
then
only
have
the
mail
machine
at
a
reduced
rate
under
a
new
contract.
Now,
there's
several
other
things
that
go
with
this.
M
We
also
have
the
male
the
male
portion
of
this
through
the
auditor's
office
that
takes
care
of
all
the
billing
through
that
machine.
That's
another
fee.
Add
it
on
to
this,
so
the
money
when
they
say
$2,200
a
month,
that's
the
mail
machine
and
the
folder
inserter.
Only
there
are
additional
fees
that
go
along
with
some
of
this.
So
just
to
keep
that
in
mind,
$600
a
rough
monthly
is
what
it
cost.
Thank
you.
So
some
is
Remus
your
mo
okay,
Thank
You.
Mr.
M
Mr.
Washington
Israel
from
what
I've
observed
and
listened
to,
we
have
the
problem
of
every
department
almost
in
this
county,
and
this
is
not
on
every
department
in
this
county
is
interconnected
in
one
way
or
another.
So
what
I'd
like
to
advise
to
elected
officials
or
appointed
officials
is
that
we
explore
every
possibility
of.
M
M
McCarty
we'll
get
more
into
at
some
point
here,
but
the
first-quarter
budget
was
on
treasurer's
office
and
and
and
really
most
other
offices
are
wonderfully
on
budget
or
below
and
then
also
the
four-month
average
is
still
the
same,
so
whether
that
you
know
obviously
manifest
throughout
the
year
for
everybody,
not
just
the
treasurer's
to
be
seen,
but
we're
doing
very
well
in
at
least
controlling
cost
within
everybody's
budgets
right
now,
I.
Thank
you,
mr.
Vickery.
That
brings
up
a
question.
Have
we
seen
that
quote?
Have
we
seen
a
quarterly
report?
M
Yet
the
the
auditor
sent
that
out
to
everybody
he
couldn't
be
here,
so
he
sent
it
out
via
email
to
everybody,
and
we
did
approve
it
just
a
moment
ago.
So,
at
least
that's
that's
been
emailed
to
the
group.
He
would
mention
to
me
that
if
people
want
to
talk
about
it,
even
we
can
go
into
it
and
Deb.
Next
up
at
the
next
finance
meeting.
We
will
cover
a
lot
of
that
in
the
Steve's
part.
Mccarty's
part
of
this
all
right.
M
D
E
J
K
J
M
A
K
M
A
G
2016
there
were
89
late
payments,
best-case
scenario,
forty
four
thousand
five
hundred,
so
you
have
a
seventy
nine
thousand
five
hundred
best
case
scenario.
The
truth
is
there
are
a
couple
real
problems
out
there
that
have
three
thousand
dollar
penalties
several
times
so
you're
closer
to
$100,000
real
money.
That's
never
been
billed
when
I
took
over.
We
would.
S
Call
one
of
the
hotel
operators
on
a
regular
basis,
hey
you're,
60
days
late
again,
please
send
us
your
money.
I
want
this
body
to
understand
that
going
forward
with
the
help
of
the
state's
attorney
I
will
bill
for
lay
fees
and
once
I
bill
I
will
just
push
the
bill
over
to
Jim
rose
office
to
collect
how
much
money
that's
due
us,
it's
it's!
S
When
Mark
sent
these
notices
out,
he
attached
the
ordinance,
there's,
no
one,
that's
in
the
dark
and
at
the
risk
of
being
sentimental,
you
see.
Elderly
citizens
come
to
our
desk
and,
if
they're
a
day
late
on
their
property
taxes,
it's
half
percent,
no
ifs,
ands
or
buts.
Not
understand
why
this
should
be
any
different.
So
from
this
day
forward
we
will
be
collecting
those.
These
are
the
sorts
of
monies
that
I
think
when
I
say
I
believe
in
my
budget,
because
I
believe
these
are
monies
that
will
be
flowing
in.
S
S
E
A
N
Sure,
if
that
legally,
we
can
do
or
not,
or
should
we
okay,
because
really
it
was
on
us
to
do
that
and
we
didn't
do
it
I,
don't
know
how
the
rest
of
the
committee
feels,
but
any
other
question.
Mr.
Vickery,
if
you
build
it,
you
haven't,
you
haven't
lost
anything
cost
bill
bill
and
they've
collected
the
money.
They
have
correct.
Okay,
I
know,
I
know
when
I
travel,
I
pay,
the
hotel
tax
I
mean.
S
S
Any
other,
so
maybe
before
we
proceed
with
this,
we
should
again
opinion
from
mr.
roe.
I
will
do
that
everyone.
You
agree
with
that's
okay
approach
to
go
for
so
based
on
what
mr.
Rowe
communicates
to
me.
I
will
follow
that
path,
but
I
will
build
going
forward.
Any
other
questions
comments
for
the
Treasury,
then
all
right.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
O
E
E
S
S
D
Good
morning
morning
everybody
has
a
copy:
okay,
we're
we're
going
to
start
with
fy16
smiles
keeping
things
before
the
final
audit
report
or
the
comprehensive
annual
financial
report
comes
out
at
the
May
meeting.
So
the
first
item
on
discussion,
we
bring
the
finance
every
year
during
the
course
of
the
year,
various
departments
either.
E
S
K
S
S
S
S
It's
adjusting
the
total
of
the
$500,000.
If
you
look
into
contingency
adjustment
column,
the
contingency
is
brought
down
from
$500,000
a
zero
for
the
final
budget
and
then
reallocated
throughout
the
rest
of
those
numbers
and
then
so
the
original
budget
adjustment
for
contingency,
then
their
final
budget
is
reflected
for
these
for
this
activity
in
the
the
far
right
column.
S
Mr.
Sira
Karen
Steve
is:
is
this
all
500
thought
that
this
whole
adjustment
is
five
hundred
thousand
I'm
just
looking
at
the
no
right,
I
didn't
add
them
all
up
that
doesn't
look
like
yeah
I
took
out
the
I
added
the
entire
column,
keeping
track
on
okay,
yes,
and
it
all
adds
up
job
mr.
leer
Thank
You
mr.
chair
I.
Did
these
contingency
adjustments
to
take
care
of
all
of
the
needs
or
would
have
there
have
been?
If
you
had
a
larger
contingency
would
have
there
been
other
adjustments.
S
Right
I
believe
there's
some
others
within
the
budget
that
you
know
are
still
the
as
far
as
needing
adjustment
is
that
what
your
AM
is
doing
make
sure
I
Madison
answer.
My
questions
are
still
some
that
well,
it
would've
ended
up
if
we
had
more
mr.
really
just
to
clarify
it
and
make
sure
everybody
knows
that
we're
just
moving
it
around.
It's
not
an
expenditure.
It's
not!
S
You
know
anything
we're
just
in
order
for
us
to
tighten
up
the
audit
we
had
to
contingency
and
we've
done
this
year
after
year
after
year,
it's
a
common
practice
to
to
shore
up
those
things
that
came
in
like
elections.
We
had
so
many
extra
ballots
that
needed
imprinted
because
we
had
a
really
big
presidential
election.
So
those
you
know
those
types
of
things
that
were
foreseen
or
unforeseen.
So
it's
really
a
balancing
thing
all
right.
Any
other
questions,
then,
on
the
16
budget
allocation.
S
So
everybody
good
with
with
that
before
we
move
on
okay,
all
right,
then
the
next
two
pages
in
your
packet
is
a
draft
of
fiscal
year
16,
as
well
as
as
a
comparison
here,
we've
looked
at
this
graph
wise
now.
This
is
this.
Is
the
numbers
now
that
we're
at
an
actual
number,
with
fiscal
year,
16,
there's
I
do
need
to
point
out.
S
S
S
So
you
can
see
thirty
three
point:
two
million
dollars
in
fiscal
year
13
in
total
general
fund
revenues
in
25.5
in
the
draft
FY
16
revenues
and
then
I
need
from
the
expense
side.
You
can
see.
That
number
is
nine
and
a
half
million
dollars
decrease
from
thirty
five
point,
one
down
to
twenty
five
point:
six:
that's
a
decrease
of
twenty
seven
percent
and
change
an
actual
expense.
S
S
So,
but
we
wanted
to
update
you
we're,
at
least
at
this
point
we're
getting
close
to
finalizing
everything
we're
getting
through
the
final
stages
of
the
audit
and
the
final
report
to
pull
the
report
all
together
and
we'll
bring
it
next
month
to
this
committee.
We
are,
we
do
have
filing
requirements
with
the
SCC
and
others
that
we
have
to
meet
so
we're
getting
down
to
have
enough
to
get
that
accomplished.
S
I
also
have
included
torque
and
pension.
So
as
far
as
the
three
major
funds,
the
tork
fund
at
a
surplus
of
one
hundred,
sixteen
thousand,
so
it's
good
and
then
for
the
first
time
and
number
of
years.
The
pension
fund,
because
it
had
a
surplus
of
four
hundred
thousand,
has
now
has
a
positive
fund
balance
of
146,000.
So
we
went
from
a
negative
259.
S
S
So
we're
starting
to
move
in
a
positive
direction.
So
so
that's
the
three
major
funds
of
one
to
give
you
an
update
on
and
then
I'll
all
of
the
funds.
The
entire
picture
you
know
will
be
in
the
next
month
in
the
annual
audit
report
comprehensive
report.
So
if
there's
any
questions
before
we
move
past
FY
16.
S
T
T
S
S
S
S
S
Some
other
calculations
that
went
in
there,
so
May
is
going
to
be
tight,
as
you
can
see
the
the
estimated
you're
in
down
around
four
hundred
thousand
and
the
timing
of
things
and
our
vendors
will
be
probably
the
tightest
getting
through
May
and
then
to
June
with
when
the
timing
of
week,
when
the
first
distribution
is
available
from
the
property
tax
collection.
So
that's
all
a
timing
issue,
but
a
very
important
one
for
the
balance
of
it.
So.
S
Anything
else
want
to
point
out
here
we
did
print
the
bond
payment
so
when
the
actual
of
April
comes
out
of
the
bond
payment,
that's
shown
in
May
here
will
actually
show
in
April.
We
have
not
sent
that
out
yet,
but
it
did
get
printed.
So
the
system
will
show
that
you
know
from
a
cash
flow
standpoint.
It
is
due
June
1st
that
207,000
is
due
on
June
1st,
so
we
do
have
a
little
bit
of
time.
So
we're
timing
deposits
in
advance,
but
so.
A
S
Any
questions
our
receipt
are
payable.
It's
always
a
question:
where
are
we
worried
at
the
end
of
March
were
just
on
the
border
of
it's
2.9
million?
We
will
more
unlikely
cross
into
the
3
million
range
in
April
when
the
final
April
number
comes
out,
so
we've
been
as
high
as
3
for
3.5
in
previous
years
and
yeah
we're
we're
in
that
neck
of
the
woods
again
here
by
the
time
you
get
through
May.
So
it's
a
lot
of
balancing
act
with
the
vendors.
A
lot
of
phone
calls
a
lot
of
emails.
S
S
Far
as
a
regular
monthly
hope
we
do
evolution,
miss
Peters,
Thank
You,
mr.
chairman
Steve
in
the
past,
you've
given
us,
but
I,
don't
remember
what
exactly
it's
called,
but
on
the
general
fund,
we
have
the
excess
revenues
over
expenditures,
but
there
was
a
rolling
total
in.
Do
you
know
what
that
rolling
total
is,
if
you
would
have
put
it
on
this
report,
the
general
fund?
S
S
Right
now,
I'm
up
to
top
my
head.
While
we
were
in
wearing
the
four
point,
eight
million
dollar
negative
range
in
fund
balance,
so
I,
that's
what
I
did
not
I
did
not
add
that
up.
If
the
seventy-seven
will
take
us
I
know
the
four
point.
Eight
though
the
rest
of
it
will,
if
it'll
take
us,
the
four
point,
nine
or
not
I
will
bring
that.
We
will
show
that
next
month,
all
right.
Thank
you,
Miss
Union
Pacific.
We
are.
S
So,
as
far
as
the
regular
report,
it
changed
up
for
the
request
of
the
committee
German
wheeler,
the
HR
great
fun
detail,
given
a
little
different
perspective,
historical
perspective
of
the
monthly
payouts
for
that
activity
is
kind
of
timely,
with
the
information
that
our
insurance
agents
brokers
just
provided
us.
This
is
what
takes
place
on
a
monthly
basis.
What
has
taken
place,
what
is
taking
place
in
the
format
similar
to
you
know
the
sales
tax
and
income
tax,
etc.
S
S
D
Any
questions
on
any
of
those
reports-
yeah,
we
haven't,
discussed
it,
we've
that
it
does
appear
with
the
trend
of
the
sales
tax.
You
know
that
we
now
have
reached
our
new
normal
if
you
will,
after
going
through
the
number
of
years
of
where's
the
bottom,
so
hopefully
you
know
we'll
be
able
to
move
forward.
You
know
with
confidence
now,
because
we
are
seeing
a
more
consistent
trend
with
sales
tax
for
first
time
in
about
three
to
four
years,
since
that
decline
began.
D
D
All
right,
no
other
questions
on
the
regular
monthly
I
will
move
to
fiscal
year
17
for
the
back
of
your
report,
similar
format
to
the
FY
16
report.
Four
year
analysis.
This
is
year-to-date
comparison
through
March,
so
this
is
a
cash
basis
report.
It
does
not
build
in
accruals,
like
the
full-year
report
does
in
looking
at
trends.
You
know
both
revenue
and
then
and
also
expense.
There
is
there's.
S
One
note
Billy
please
make
about
March
of
fiscal
year.
17
is
different
from
the
other
three
years
and
March
of
17.
There
was
three
payrolls
in
March
of
seventeen
and
there
are
not
three
payrolls
in
any
of
the
other
March
years,
so
that
that
total
was
seven
hundred
and
forty
six
thousand
dollars,
seven
hundred
fifty
thousand
additional
expense.
That
is
not
apples
to
apples
to
the
other
years.
S
J
S
S
I'll
just
say
that
so
I'll
leave
it
at
that
I'm
not
going
to
say
multiply
because
we're
four
months
in
times
three,
because
it's
not
that
simple
I'm,
not
trying
to
say
that
that's
what
it's
going
to
be,
but
we
are
going
to
take
take
everything
into
consideration
and
go
forward.
So
we
just
wanted
to
bring
that
information
to
you
to
give
you
some
idea.
What's
what's
transacting
at
this
point.
S
See
if
there's
any
questions
any
questions,
mr.
wheeler,
thank
you
in
this
side.
Just
a
it's
more
a
statement.
If
you
look
at
you
know,
as
we
looked
at
the
first
quarter,
not
you
know
not
with
March
on
it.
We
were
looking
at
roughly
overall
flat
expenses
on
about
a
25%
increase
in
revenue,
so
that
manifests
in
a
really
the
best
first
quarter,
we've
seen
as
far
as
expense
to
revenue
that
I
can
think
of,
and
probably
since
the
bubble.
You
know.
D
A
And
then
some-
and
you
know
going
forward
as
long
as
we
manage
this
the
right
way.
It
provides
some
of
that
giddiness.
That
Steve
is
exerting
up
there
right
now,
but
it's
it's
we're
doing.
What
we're
supposed
to
I
guess
is
kind
of
the
question.
We
just
need
to
really
keep
an
eye
on
it
and-
and
you
know.
H
U
Capital
and
really
we
lose
it
almost
in
19,
because
we're
only
getting
a
million
that
year
next
year
is
gonna,
be
tough
cuz
we're
only
getting
2
million
on
at
eaw
basis.
So,
as
I
tell
people,
we
got
to
be
ready
to
move
out
of
our
parents
basement
in
2020
and
be
able
to
survive
on
our
own
as
far
as
cash
goes
and
that's
kind
of
a
real
assessment.
So
it
may
look
like
when
he
says
a
million
dollars
to
the
better.
That's
not
cash.
We
have
that's
just
less
cash.
U
We
owe
so
I
had
to
really
put
that
stipulation
out
there,
though
we
see
that
light
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel,
but
it's
really
until
we
know
what
we're
going
to
be
in
2020
until
we
can
say
for
sure
that
this
is
what
we're
going
to
be
and
what
we
can
do.
Thank
you
yeah.
It's
really
nice
to
be
able
to
have
this
discussion.
It
definitely
feels
a
lot
lighter
in
weight.
However,
we
still
have
a
cash
problem.
We
still
have
a
lot.
U
And
in
all
the
cash
that
we've
had
to
borrow
for
this
time
of
year,
we
still
have
a
long
way
to
go,
but
it
looks
like
we're
we're
getting
the
opportunity
to
start
getting
out
of
that
hole
and
climbing
out
of
that
hole.
That's
the
you
know.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
focus
stays
together
with
the
good
news
and
that
we
still
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
going
forward.
U
U
There's
no
other
questions
on
that
and
just
for
informational
purposes.
The
last
page
is
two
copies
of
the
PTL
worksheet
for
our
property
tax
or
its
tax
or
2016
that
will
be
collected
in
2017.
So
as
when
we
talk
about
our
property
tax
collections,
here's
basically
four
simple
by
turns
the
far
right
columns
will
be
the
approximate
amount
that
will
be
collected,
there's
usually
a
percentage
or
so
you
know
that
that
does
not
get
collected,
but
this
is
the
the
amount
for
the
county
that
goes
out.
U
So
it's
very
close
to
the
estimates
that
we
use
during
budget
time.
So
we
appreciate
Eric's
Blair's
information.
As
far
as
the
estimates
of
change-
and
you
know
obviously,
there's
there's
a
process
as
it
goes
through.
We
don't
know
the
final
numbers
until
at
this
time
of
year,
so
we
are
very
close
and
appreciate
the
work
of
the
County
Clerk's
office
as
well
and
working
with
us
to
to
get
get
to
the
area.
You
know
that
on
this
that's
close
to
what
we
were
budgeting
and
planning
for,
so
that
you
have
it
as
well.
U
It's
really
just
to
mention
that
we
are
going
to
be
taking
a
close
look
at
this
when
we
do
our
projections
for
next
year,
because
there
are
some
shifting
sands,
if
you
will
as
far
as
things
we
might
be
able
to
do
that
became
available
to
us,
so
we're
going
to
we're
to
spend
a
little
bit
more
time
deliberately
working
on
this,
for
when
we
do
our
projections
for
next
year,
all
right.
Thank
you.
Any
final
questions
for
mr.
McCarty.
A
D
D
U
Different
things
to
law
enforcement,
mostly
danger
things
says:
please
see
the
attached
intelligence.
Note,
phishing
emails
to
appear,
phishing
emails
appearing
to
originate
from
government
addresses
now
I.
Don't
know
that
Kevin's
still
here,
but
when
you're
talking
about
phishing
and
it
starts
with
a
pH
instead
of
an
F
I,
don't
think
that's
good
Soho,
but
there's
some
phishing
emails
and
I'm
sure
some
of
you
more
some
of
you
more
computer
literate
people
will
understand
what
those
are
but
basically
what's
happening.
U
N
U
U
The
patrol
number
lists
here,
the
sheriff's
patrol
at
39,
and
that
number
is
actually
26
and
it's
26.
When
you
get
down
to,
we
have
one
assigned
to
our
IT
department.
We
have
two
assigned
to
the
Metro.
We
have
three
assigned
to
the
courthouse.
We
have
five
assigned
to
investigations,
we
have
one
in
the
schools
and
we
have
one
in
K
Meg
and
of
those
that
are
in
those
assignments,
we
receive
approximately
$300,000
in
reimbursement
for
their
salaries.
So,
while
the
number
on
your
staffing
sheet
says
39
patrol
there's,
actually
26
patrol.
U
O
A
U
You
know
the
investigators,
you
know
we
can
say
well,
let's
put
the
five
investigators
on
the
road
and
I
guess.
My
question
back
would
be
who's
going
to
investigate
the
triple
homicide
out
in
Hopkins
Park
who's,
going
to
investigate
the
other
homicide
in
Hopkins
Park
who's
going
to
investigate
home
invasions,
who's,
going
to
investigate
armed
robberies,
who's
going
to
investigate
all
these
things.
That
patrol
doesn't
do.
U
Nor
do
they
have
time
for
if
you
want
us
to
serve
papers
which
were
required
to
do
right
tickets,
which
is
revenue
so
I,
mean
there's
a
lot
of
things.
That
I
think
need
to
be
clarified
in
the
staffing
report
that
just
for
your
information,
not
so
much.
You
know
whether
the
number
is
right
wrong
or
otherwise.
Just
just
for
your
clarification,
so
you
know,
and
then
I
would
ask
if
I
could
get
an
email
from
Lynn
giving
me
the
list
of
the
corrections,
because
I
have
a
different
number
than
her
110
506.
U
J
U
That
are
waiting,
polygraphs,
okay
and
those
don't
happen.
I
mean
those
happen
sporadically
when
the
polygraph
is
available.
Do
we
have
anybody
out
training
now
that
have
to
come
back
well
they're
getting
they're
included
in
this
number,
but
we
do
have
I
believe
we
have
six
in
Springfield
that
are
Gil
trained
right
now:
okay,
mr.
Washington
Mike,
how
much
more
space
do
we
have
ice?
U
They
have
indicated
that
they
need
more
space
and
we
have
I
think
I
mentioned
that
on
must
have
been
to
the
criminal
justice
committee
that
we
have
prepared
our
flex
housing
unit,
which
holds
64
that
we
can
house
64
more
so
technically
we
can
house
144
in
K
pod
64
in
Flex,
and
my
math
would
say
that's
about
208
or
so
total.
So
that's.
D
D
A
U
Vehicles
are
starting
to
accumulate
maintenance
costs
and
technically
they
are
what
I
would
consider
non
police
cars,
and
so
we
would
like
to
obviously
reduce
our
insurance
costs
and
things
like
that,
so
try
to
eliminate
vehicles
that
we
don't
need.
Let's
just
see,
ROI
your
motion
to
put
these
vehicles
on
surplus.
A
A
D
And
lastly,
and
while
it's
not
on
the
agenda,
just
something
that
happened
recently,
I'm
sure
you
saw
in
the
paper
the
individual
that
we
had,
who
was
in
court
room,
304,
murder,
trial
was
convicted.
I
believe
last
was
today
day
before,
maybe
something
like
that,
if
you
recall
he
has
numerous
health
problems
without
violating
HIPAA,
he
requires
24-hour
care.
He
went
directly
from
the
courthouse.
He
was
not
in
our
custody
at
the
time.
D
D
Gets
sentenced
so
that's
going
to
be
a
cost
that
our
county
is
going
to
incur
that
we
really
don't
have
a
when
we
talk
about
costs
that
are
uncontrollable.
That
would
be
one
of
them.
Mr.
Vickery
Thank
You
sheriff
for
that
update,
because
the
minute
I
read
the
article
that,
after
your
explanation,
that
that
popped
into
my
mind,
where
does
he
go
and
after
sentencing?
What
is
what
is
a
projected?
D
A
It
the
least
cost
a
Mountie
pilot
we
possibly
could
on
the
county.
Unfortunately,
now
that
he's
convicted,
we
don't
really
have
a
choice,
so
they
have
expedited
his
court
date
and
we
are
looking
I
think
at
May
12th
for
him
to
be
sentenced
and
if
he
gets
sentenced
on
that
day
and
there's
no
guarantee,
but
if
he
gets
sentenced
on
that
day,
there
is
a
good
likelihood
that
he
will
be
out
of
our
custody
within
a
day.
A
Really.
Mr.
chairman
is,
is
there
a
time
period
when
someone
who
is
a
I
guess
an
inmate?
In
this
case
you
know
convicted
inmate
when
they
go
to
a
hospital
they're
no
longer
in
custody,
they
go
and
then
they're,
Medicare
eligible
or
Medicaid
eligible.
Excuse
me.
Well,
we
do
pay
the
Medicaid
rate
and
we're
looking
in
where
our
medical
department
is
looking
into
those
possibilities
of
alternative
pay.
A
So
we
are
exploring
those
options
as
well
sure
sure
I
also
want
to
mention
that
vans
are
here
and
we
executed
a
lease
on
the
vans,
so
that's
taken
care
of
and
then
the
hey
things
happen.
Mr.
mohei
yeah
address
my
question.
Okay,
thank
you.
Mr.
Washington,
my
Ken
can
he
be
sentenced,
while
still
in
the
hospital
without
being
brought
out
to
Guam,
that's
probably
in
Jim's,
not
here,
I
I
believe
he
has
a
right
to
be
present,
but
it's
it
getting
him
there
getting
him
to
and
from
is
not
an
issue.
A
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Move
on
to
the
next
agenda
item,
which
is
other
business.
The
first
we
have
is
the
sexual
assault,
MDT
response
team
grant
annual.
Yes,
thank
you
in
the
spirit
of
one
thing
we
were
talking
about
earlier.
These
this
is
from
the
state's
attorney's
office.
They
had
an
opportunity
to
higher
level
of
match.
You
know
a
funding,
but
we
had
to
to
match
that
funding.
A
So,
wouldn't
you
know
kind
of
dovetail
on
what
we've
mentioned
with
Nick
that
people
bring
into
this
committee,
even
though
it's
a
small
amount
of
money
and
it's
within
the
budget,
it's
the
committee's
purview.
The
previous
match
was
14,000,
roughly
$400,
the
new
match
will
be
$18,000,
so
we're
basically
money
ahead.
If
we,
if
we
do
this
so
I
just
want
to
bring
it
to
the
committee's
attention,
even
though
it's
within
the
state's
attorney's
budget
and
all
of
that
stuff,
at
least
we
know,
and
if
anybody
had
any
issues
they
could.
A
A
Yeah
I'll
try
to
make
it
quick.
The
the
regional
ICANN
is
moving
out
to
the
new
building,
which
is
the
the
the
old
co-op
building
I'm
sorry
I
was
in
the
RAC,
is
out
there
salt
what
they
used
to
call
it
on
the
south
south
45.
They
purchased
it
with
their
money.
It
becomes
a
county
property.
Now
part
of
that
is,
is
there's
a
billboard
on
that
property.
A
So
when
we
took
control
of
it,
we
have
to
execute
a
lease
for
that
because
that's
a
revenue
source
for
the
county,
so
I
put
the
least
in
the
packet
that
we're
going
to
execute.
Basically,
it's
a
sliding
scale.
There's
a
minimum
payment,
they're
going
to
pay
us
over
certain
amounts
of
time,
but
then
there's
also
a
revenue
number.
So
if
they
get
a
lot
of
business
out
of
it,
we
get
a
percentage
of
the
revenue.
It's
just
the
base
amounts
are
in
there.
A
So,
as
the
sign
is
paid
off
for
that
sign
owner,
then
the
amounts
increase
so
I
just
want
to.
Let
the
committee
know
that
that's
what
we
were
doing
we're
not
spending
money.
It's
just.
There
was
a
sign
there
that
was
an
agreement
with
the
the
old
owner
of
that
building,
so
we
needed
to
move
that
forward
and
do
it
with
us
so
state's
attorney,
seen
as
we've
gone
all
the
way
through
it
thanks
all
right,
any
older
new
business
we
brought
before
the
committee.