Kankakee County Board, IL Highways & Buildings Committee Meetings, 14 Jun 2018

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Highways & Buildings Committee Meeting 6/14/2018 9:00 AM

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Good morning, we'll call the highway and build a committee meeting for Thursday June 14 2018. To order we'll have a roll call, please, which one.

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Mr. McConnell mr. trib mr. Lee Jes mr. Vickery mr. Olaf misspoke mr. mohei mr. Hildebrand mr. Enfield, miss Weber, miss Evans, not here miss Peters, this Parker mr. Ritter mr. Kinzinger mr. wheeler Oh.

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A quorum we have a quorum. I have no public comments. Any public comments out there see none you've been distributed. The minutes of the May 10th meeting you had those sent to you I need a motion to approve mr. Cole toss that good mister suggest all in favor, say: aye motion approved: ok, mr. Rogers.

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We have no biddings or lettings this morning. Next on the agenda is the pay estimates I do a few of those this morning. First, one is our county general maintenance for 2018 payable, Gallagher asphalt corporation. This is for hot mix. Asphalt picked up at their plant in that amount is 940 dollars and 18 cents.

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Next is for our our county, general maintenance for 2018 payable to interstate asphalt. This is for hot mix picked up at their plan. To that amount is 496 dollars and 37 cents. Next is for our county general maintenance. 2018 supplement to this is payable to gross a construction. Company. They've started oil and shipping in the county, and that amount is fifty nine thousand three hundred thirty dollars. Fifty four cents next is for our county general maintenance for 2018 payable to prayer material sales. This is for Road area at their quarry, and that amount is twenty.

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Two thousand two hundred eighty six dollars 21 cents next is for our county general maintenance for 2018 payable to Vulcan Materials. This is for row mix area picked up at the quarry. That amount is eleven thousand one hundred twenty three dollars and one cent next is limestone road district for their 2018 general maintenance. This is pale. Degrasso construction, company for oil and ship work done in the township in that amount is eighty two thousand one hundred forty two dollars: twenty two cents next is Auto Road district for their 2018 general maintenance.

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Supplement to this is payload of welcome materials for road mix picked up at the quarry, and that amount is three thousand two hundred seventy eight dollars, 71 cents and last is for our county for eighteen dash: zero, zero, zero, zero, zero desert as BR. This is payable to engineering resources so shi'ites. This is for the bridge inspections that have been performed this spring and that amount is five thousand three hundred $10.00.

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I need a motion to accept before we ever will call second, okay, any questions before I have roll call any questions at all roll call. Please.

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Mister McConnel mr. CREB mr. Lodge as mister old ha misspoke, mister Mulcahy, miss Weber, miss Peters mr. Ritter. Alright, mr. wheeler motion carries.

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You look up on the screen there. Please.

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All right, the resolution that you have in front of you is the resolution declaring surplus equipment at the highway department and we are if this gets approved. We are planning to have our garage sale on August 16th. Next slide. First item is a 2004 Navistar dump truck it has about 120,000 miles on it next slide. We have three spreaders all similar to this that we're going to sell next slide. There is a 2004 Latin, Latin plow next slide a 1999 Greco paint striper next slide.

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Two steel, chainsaws, I, think we purchased them probably about 15 years ago, they're shot. We can't. We can't repair them next slide, and this is a multiple light stand and there will be also a palette of parts that are obsolete, that no longer fitting the vehicles or equipment we have. So that's that's what we're declaring surplus you.

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Need a motion to accept the resolution, just a second all in favor, say aye opposed motion.

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All right next on the agenda is the fuel station inspection. We have to have the tanks at the fuel station inspected once every four years, and that is cried by the State Fire Marshal and then inspection is going to take place on July 17th. The fuel station will be closed, probably for at least two days. Next, it is going to be performed by a contractor.

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The tanks have to be emptied, and so we will be taking our fuel supply down during the next month here and because we can, they can pull off some fuel to get it to inside and inspect it, but we can't obviously have a full tank, so they will be doing the tank inspection internally and then they do a tightness test and, like I, said, it'll, be closed for two days and that's gonna cost us about fourteen thousand dollars.

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Thank you, I, just wonder where the tanks are they're.

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At our fuel station at 801, South Skylar.

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You, mr. chairman, how frequently that happened mark that once every four years we did get a notice about our due date coming up from the fire marshal's office. So, yes, we we do have it scheduled, so I think we're due in August or maybe then beginning of August that we're having done July 17. Thank you.

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Any other questions: okay, okay,.

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Next slide next on the agenda is equipment. Purchases I've got a few things that I need to purchase and I know. The committee has asked me to notify you when I'm planning to purchase equipment so.

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Though it is in the budget, so the first thing, if you go to the next slide, is a vacuum excavation machine in the trade. It might be called a soft excavator. Basically, what it does is it. It uses a jet of water to excavate and then there's a vacuum that sucks all of the material up. We rented one last summer, because we had a bunch of utilities we needed to relocate actually locate and to do a couple of jobs.

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We needed to do the same thing this year and Vermeer had a used one that they were going to, let us rent, but they told us that if we would buy it because they were wanting to sell it, that they would sell it to us and basically take the rent off of the sale price.

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We did use it for two weeks and we were we inspected it. We we really found it acceptable and I did pull the trigger to buy it only because someone else was interested in it. Also, a new one costs about eighty six thousand dollars, and so this one did not have a hotbox on it and they are installing a hot box. Basically, the hot box makes it so it can jet hot water so like in the winter.

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If we need to replace a mailbox post or something we can use this excavator to do that kind of stuff. We can also use it to get silt out of culverts, but we use we used it exclusively this time to locate you utilities before crews get out there and start digging. We know where the utilities are.

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Next, this purchase I'm coming to you. We need to replace our grater. We have a 1999 champion road grader, it's got 7,000 hours on it. It is becoming less reliable every year.

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Many, if not most all the parts are obsolete. We can't get the parts to repair it anymore. The dealer McAllister is no longer in business, so we need to replace that I would not be purchasing this until 2019, but I need permission now to order it because there's about a six to eight month lead time in order to receive it. This is on the national joint purchase contract and that price is three hundred forty-seven thousand two hundred seventy dollars. They will give us twenty thousand for our our greater.

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Me, emotions, mister, altough and.

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You need to motion me for our question. Oh go.

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Place like Richie equipment auctions, no one is in Morris. Could we get more for that radar by putting it on that or no I.

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Did invite Bob Laluna here he's our fleet services manager and he does takes care of the equipment and has researched some of that stuff. If you allow him to speak right.

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Hello, yeah we've looked into that a few times when we get machines there, we don't want to let go for nothing and make sure that'll we get the most. We can for money, and we've done some checking on that and follow that in, like the loader we did a few years ago, we would have lost money if we did that. So we try to. We always look to get the most for our old equipment, and uh this is a good deal just for what the thing is.

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We couldn't even get a head gasket for it and it's a Cummins motor, but it's obsolete. It took two months last summer, so it's getting there's some parts on it. The clutch and stuff. That's and before it fails, is worth nothing and we're trying to make the move. Now. Okay,.

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Other questions: okay, I, need a motioned la mr. Rogers to do this, but drove all to Mister triple on favor, see I read a will, call for that. Do.

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You want me to go through all.

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Of those he's got several of them here and that will both will do the roll call. Okay.

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You alright next need to purchase a single axle truck. This is another one that will be paid for next year and next year's budget, but because of ordering and lead time, we probably won't order this until October, but we wouldn't get it to the following September, so this would be from for my 2019 budget.

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This is on the the CMS contract. Its state bid 170 thousand four hundred ninety four dollars. It would be replacing a 2009 International with. Currently it's got about eighty six thousand miles on it, but it will have more miles by the time we get to it next year. So I don't want any questions on that. One. Okay,.

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The next one here is one that just kind of came to my attention here recently we have two two thousand John Deere 5310 with, but we also have two other John Deere tractors that are larger, that have the big mowers on them. We use these two to go around and just do like somebody called and said we're having a rodeo and Pembroke.

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Can you come out and mow so we'd send those little trackers out and just get it done if a contract, if we were doing something along the road and we needed somebody to just go up and mow so that we could put some stone down or whatever those that's what we use. Those two tractors for this was on my list to purchase next year, but a dealer has come and has offered us eight thousand dollars for each tractor plus a hundred out $500 for each mower, which would give us a trade-in I'm about $17,000.

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This this tractor is on the CMS contract. The tractor is eighty four thousand three. Seventy six. The extra transmission power guard is two thousand thirty two dollars and the mower is nineteen thousand. Four hundred thirteen dollars state big, gives us a discount of twenty three thousand two hundred twenty two dollars and one cent. The trade and allowance from the dealer was seventeen thousand. That would give us a total purchase price of sixty-five thousand 599. Seventy three.

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This isn't something I have to have, but because of that trade and allowance, which is very attractive for it for tractors that are eighteen years old, we thought that this was would probably be a good time to do it. It just we're just moving it up a year. I do have in my equipment budget I'd have to move it around between departments, but we do have the money for it. Any.

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Questions yeah, okay,.

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Next, in my engineering department, we are trying to make the move to GPS when you till it, when we have a contract utility companies want an electronic file so that they can just throw their utilities on there and they know where everything is that we haven't done, that we've been old, school and even contractors. When we award projects to contractors they wanted the electronic data, so they can make a model.

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So they can program this information into their equipment for grading and digging, and all of that, so my staff went up to Joliet to care a company and had a demonstration I wanted to make sure that it was compatible with our software. It was compatible with the GIS software we have, and all that was taking. Care of this equipment would cost about eighteen thousand 386 36 and that's for the controller.

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The GPS antenna unit, software rods, batteries, the holeshot.

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Any questions were you at 13, mister.

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We thank you. Is there, like some type of a software maintenance contract, that.

C

Was not offered to us no.

G

Pat ability with operating systems as they move forward. That's what I wonder about okay.

C

I can check into the SEC and.

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See if there's because of Windows the next version, sometimes they don't talk and then you're sitting there with another I will.

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Any other question I did a motion to have mr. Rogers go ahead and purchase these onto even though they're under the budget. Just this is for your information. Only they have one more.

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That's our conference room on the left. That table was designed specifically for the highway and bridge committee back in the 70s. It takes up the whole room and it's not very functional for us anymore. I would like to purchase some modular equipment that you see on the right there, that I could set that room up, classroom style or conference room style and give me some flexibility when I have meetings, I've got a everybody so far away. It just is time. It's probably good.

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A new, a new conference room set up there kind of cost, probably about five thousand dollars.

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The your proposed selection on the right- those are all individual tables- is that right? Yes,.

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A they would definitely be narrower than what these are. Yes,.

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Those are I've seen them, those actually and you're right. It can set up in any many shapes and and what works best for us. That would be great. Thank you. Okay,.

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Need a motion to allow mr. Rogers to purchase these, even though they're in a budget, mr. Shane Ritter, and need a roll call. Please no question the.

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Other equipment were those in the equipment budgets for the following years, based on the estimates of when you needed to be paid back from the county and all.

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Yes, it is okay,.

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Just want to make sure this wasn't on top of that. Yes, thank you, I didn't think so. Okay, that's.

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Fine, okay: we need a roll call. Please.

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When you still need a roll call,.

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Mr. McConnell aye mr. trib mr. Lodge as mr. Olaf misspoke mr. Mulcahy MS Weber, miss Evans, miss Peters mr. Ritter. Mr. wheeler motion.

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Carries any other questions for mr. Rodgers before he leaves any other questions? Okay, thank you all right, Thank You, mr. Andrews or mr. Gadbois, whoever's, okay,.

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All right first thing, I need Genda is the facility dude report. For the month of May, we had 165 work orders and my training with Brian. That seems pretty typical of where we should be. You know this type of year between 165 and a hundred and 70 in front of you. You've got a financial report again in speaking with Brian over the last six weeks, or so we seem to run about 15,000 dollars a month in expenses.

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You'll see that slightly up at 19,000, 660 923, and that was due in large part to $3,400 expense out of the new jail for precision piping, related to repair of some condensing units, air handlers there and then 1320, 705 expense at the annex with Reuter, and that was related to a phone system upgrade at the at the NX building. So if you take, those two out were pretty close to where we, where we've been on a monthly basis as I understand it from my conversations with Brian's. So any questions on that.

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You sure, cracked, your head, you got a question. Oh.

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All right next on the agenda of the building report, we'll start with 189. Of course, that's this building condenser unit number 12, which serves the fifth floor and E, is obviously familiar with. That is that's where he's at and Diane, as well as freon leaks that was repaired by precision a couple weeks ago.

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Sixth, floor roof repairs. The insurance company who insures the building came out, took a look at the roof recommended. Some warranty work be done that contractor. That performed the work which was obviously before my time. He came back here a couple weeks ago and performed the warranty work that was recommended by the insurance company. So that's all been completed.

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Condenser units we've had the maintenance staff go through all of them here at this building, they've all been cleaned. Cotton wood is a major issue this time of year and they were plugged up pretty good. So all those have been clean and everything here knock on wood is is operational. At this time.

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At the courthouse we were having issues with the air handler one there at the courthouse. We had precision out, they replaced the filter, dryers and expansion valves on that unit. It's working wonderfully right now, condenser units. Again there were cleaned as well. Ad a signage has all been installed inside the building. The directional signage is going up right now we have the signage but we're working on posts to get it installed.

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So that should be done here, hopefully within the next week or so something that's come up recently WeatherBug reached out to us about the possibility of putting a camera on top of the courthouse. If you're not familiar with WeatherBug I think they're hooked in with WGN. Somehow they you can go, it's all online. You can go to their website. You can check it out. You can pull up weather cameras from many different locations from Naples to Chicago and all across the country.

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Kinki junior high school has one on their building right now, they've reached out to us they're interested in putting one on the courthouse chief McCabe sounds like he's all in favor. You know I. There have been some questions regarding you know allowing WGN or WeatherBug to put that on County property.

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It's chairman, thank you. The conversations now are with IT and myself allowing because, obviously we don't know if we want to allow access to our network, it's a security issue so that we have to make sure that it's on a separate segregated line, because we would obviously not be able to monitor what comes and goes from a livestream camera, and that is an access point. People can't hack those things, so the the decision you know is yeah. Let's take a look at it, there's no reason not to I'm. Sorry we get paid.

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It's not a bad idea. I can try hey, but the just. So you know that's where it's at it's really with Kevin right now, taking a look at what is our network capabilities and if he says this is not good for the county, you have a risk, then we won't I will recommend that we don't you know, I, don't see how we could go against that recommendation of information 30. But beyond that, that's where we're at mr.

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Trippe I mean maybe I missed something, but why would we want to just pretty close to each other.

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Got through they have what I was looking at it before I came in here. Kinky junior high schools got one there, so they well the county as I understand it. The courthouse is the highest point, accounting that correct so for coverage reasons. I, think, that's probably why they like it and the junior high school I looked at if the feed is actually looking at a tree.

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Far as the security issues, I think that reaching out to other government bodies that may have one already might be a good idea. What's their experience with it, have they had any trouble? What did they do to address the security questions? That's.

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Excellent idea we'll follow up on that. Mr.

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Weiner, the.

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The reason they want to put it on the courthouse. The reason we wanted on the courthouse is because it shows downtown Kankakee in the action and the buildings and everything down here. It's a it's a marketing thing for the area, yeah.

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Know as long as there's not a car, you know turning over and running into a building like it.

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A few weeks ago,.

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Okay, any other questions about that issue: okay, okay, okay,.

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The old jail we had a condenser the condenser unit. We had some issues with that and all these condenser units came up couple weeks ago over Memorial Day weekend when it was 95 degrees and everything was getting fired up.

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We had a rebuilt compressor there as I understand it was replaced eight years ago we we had a new one installed there, obviously due to the nature of that facility with the number of inmates in there, it was critical to get that installed. The cost for that was twelve thousand four hundred sixty dollars and that job has now been complete. Precision completed that a couple actually earlier this week, precision was out I believe on Monday or Tuesday and got that done so so that is back up and running.

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We just finished installing puller cables and cameras at the old jail as well. We were approached by correctional officers. They had some issues with visibility and some of the corridors at the old jail, so our maintenance staff went ahead and pulled the pull all the wiring for those and installed those cameras as well. So that's been completed before I came in here. I just got off the phone with coney elevator.

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They were out last week to measure the the the elevator repair that we have going on I'm in the process he's going to be sending me the quote from the drilling company to to drill out that hole and I believe I, don't know if Brian discussed this at the last one, but the the hole was drilled on an angle previously, and there was some discussion with Andy and myself and Brian about you know, taking the risk of installing the new elevator in a shaft that was crooked I believe we all decided that wasn't a good idea, so we have got a quote coming to drill the hole out correctly so hopefully I have that I may have it by the time I get back to my computer at the annex.

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We had to again condenser issues there as well. We had two motors go bad and then two fans that needed to be replaced as well. They were broke. Those were repaired by maintenance staff, so was happy to be a keep that in house save some money and that repair cost about thirteen hundred bucks. That was done last week.

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The second floor conference room is completed. Tom latham we went in and took out some walls that room does need carpeting, so not sure what we're gonna do with that. I'll discuss it with Tom, but that room does need carpet out of Jerome combs again we talked about the expense with precision where the two units number twenty-two and twenty-three that we're both broken Chris continues to run like a crazy man out there you know and as I've you know, is I'm getting acclimated.

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You know, I can see that you know there really is a need for another person out there at Jerome combs.

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You know Chris runs like crazy as it is, but especially whenever we have time off, you know it really creates staffing issues because we're pulling from other buildings to cover out there and then we're short elsewhere, so just wanted to bring it to your attention that we really could use another another body out there and, let's see, in addition to 22 and 23 that were poured by precision, Chris, fixed I believe three other units out there on his own.

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So we did save a little bit of money there as well, by having Chris fix the air handlers up on the road.

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Just want to make it clear going back to the other issue emphasized what the chairman said is exactly right. It would be courthouse you're for the weather bug whether or not it's done at no time will it. If we do or the Chairman chooses to go farther at no time will it ever touch the court system I want to make it clear and Andy did say that I want to make it clear, I'm, not making decisions based on the court systems.

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Network I, don't want the chief judge, thinking we were sitting over here and would allow anything to touch their network. Andy said it perfectly. If that decision was made at no time would it touched the court system software so I want to make sure if that gets back to the chief judge, we're not arbitrary, making that and not talk to them. So thank.

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You for that clarification, that's it any questions, any questions. Mr. Tripp, a lot.

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Of repairs are made with one contractor and do we periodically farm. That's I mean that farming out gift prices and bid that out in any way, because a lot of money's being spent and I'd like it up and done, and how that's handled well.

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Obviously, I'm.

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If we can't do it, we pick up the phone and call so and so.

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The the issue we've had in the past is: is it the timely manner that we received service? This has come up over and over again and we've tried to use other contractors, it seems to fall by the wayside, sometimes on how quickly would they respond? Precision, piping and I will say this out loud because I've used them for over six years now, when we call them within 20 minutes.

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Typically within a half-hour, we have someone on the way, so we have used them consistently as our as our outside contractor for our heating and air conditioning issues. I have don't have a problem calling other companies in but again the timely manner in which they respond was huge for us. So that was the reason why we've always stayed with them.

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Can we give us a report on how much we spend on outside contractors during a.

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Year, yes, like.

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That we can't I just want to keep everything yeah.

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And aboveboard.

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One way, maybe to make sure that the pricing that we are paying each time is randomly after you've called them. Then I don't know if there's who else in town besides precision but maybe maybe it'd, be too much of a hassle but but contact another one or two local ones and give them the job. That was just done as if it's an estimate and find out what they would charge to come out and do the work that precision just did to make sure that we're we're staying in the market. You.

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They're not because they might feel you know: okay, well, they're, the ones that we call and oh yeah.

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You don't want anybody to get too comfortable.

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Any other questions for mr. Andrew any other questions. Thank you. Thank you. Any old business.

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You mr. chairman I asked based on other conversations that have happened with this committee in the past and actually came up with criminal justice. Yesterday again, I asked mr. Latham to come the security issues that we have at the Probation slash public defender's office.

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This committee may have heard and I thought we brought it up- that it happened again where people come in for their probation visit and they have weapons on them guns knives and the only reason that they find out is because they're frisking them to cuff them to take them in, and so that's the only time. They know that they actually have them, because there's no metal detectors on the door. There.

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Type of security we used to have a sheriff's police officer there with with budget problems and cuts over the years that doesn't exist anymore. It is an issue for safety. I will try to be, as you know, clean as possible is I. Guess it's a pun, but they catch people in the bathrooms taking sink baths. You know with their clothes off, they walk in there's naked people staying in there. There is no security. There is no, they have cameras, not in the bathrooms, but they do have cameras in the building. We did do that. So.

G

The reason that we're here is is because, at some point in a in a quick fashion, we're gonna have to figure this out and it's not just a magnetometer as I was educating yesterday, it's not an x-ray. It's a magnetometer coming in the door tell me later, um but the there's got to be somebody there to secure that. If somebody has a- and there has to be somebody there to secure it, so we talked about you know like with the banks.

G

Do we have a situation where you walk in and it scans you and then somebody buzzes, you in you know that kind of thing: the cost versus adding another person to the rotation for the for the courthouse.

G

They all rotate and one person comes down there. You know in that situation, but again it's a full-time job. At some point. It's probably not just gonna be one because people take vacations and you know have sick days and things like that. So I mean this. Is not it's not a little deal. The committee needs to know it. So I don't know Tom. If you have comments about, did I explain the situation pretty well, okay, because the employees are not comfortable with what's going on in that building.

G

So the committee kind of night needs to make a decision. You know, do we go ahead and look at the cost of this fix and authorizing Wes to spearhead? What needs to be done to secure that you know. Is it I? Don't you've been in the lobby over there? It's a big, open Lobby, you know you come in. There could be a magnetometer. You know there, but the nature of this all they're all their meetings.

G

All their appointments are just all day long, there's no they're, not grouped between 812, so this isn't just in the morning could we have somebody there? This is there's gonna have to be somebody there all do.

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We have do, we have an estimate where that's gonna cost and we.

G

Have to start that process, so I just want to make sure the committee was okay, know what we're doing understands the issues, and this is enough nice to have it's kind of. We got to do something, oh, and how much were those magnetometers? Did they say, 15 grand something like that.

G

How much 3,000 I like that one better than so it's not but again, there's structural stuff. We may have to do with the door room and to have key access to everywhere. You know to get into the building, you know, or maybe we don't is the case. Whatever the solution can.

A

We get those numbers for our next meeting, then we have to okay, then go to the executive board.

G

On the radar, if.

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We got we're also moving forward with getting estimates on ramp work and courtroom work right, because we have that date certain in September. So it's a busy month for for.

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Less, if it possible.

G

Okay, let's get the ball rolling any.

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New business, any other business I, do have some other business Brian up here. Okay, my my other money. Other do be quite him. It please my other business is. This is going to be Brian's last meeting here and we really need to acknowledge what he has done over the past six years. He's just been a.

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Sessional work and yes- and we appreciate what you've done and we've cancelled.

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Just make sure you give him some kudos I'm done, I.

L

Want to thank a few people here, especially want to thank Pam. We when I came here, I, wasn't a heating air-conditioning, guy, I, wired, plenty of them, but I actually didn't know quite frankly how they worked and I went to Pat with a lot of information, and he helped me and- and we grew together in this department- and he was very helpful to me and I so I can't thank you enough for everything you've done for me, so that was helpful.

L

Another guy I want to recognize his bill. Conan's bill came in here when we came here in 2012 as this field superintendent. It was a bit of a mess here when we came and we cleaned it up and- and it made mass improvements here this this department changed a lot. Bill CONUS took the job as field superintendent and did a job that nobody else probably wanted to do. He was the guy that got it done.

L

I went to him, I turned it over to him, told him what I wanted done and he went and got it done. He didn't make any friends these guys. This department didn't like Bill. Very much because he made him do their job and I want to thank him publicly for everything he did to make my job easier. So I will and he's still employed here. He works here at 189 and he does up. He does a lot of running and purchasing. He does all the purchasing forest for material.

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What have you any-any does a great job. What Wesa used knows and knows what buildup, so he was huge in what we accomplished over this timeframe. These guys in this department went down to ten men. The ones we have here are our great workers. They care about what they're doing and I can't thank all them enough either they they were huge.

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The other thing I know and I brought this up over and over again he needs another guy in this department. We need another guy in this department. You're gonna have to make the move I'm out, calling on the chairman. Please make this move and get Chris Martin help at your old combs he's uh he's a heck of an employee, and the last thing we want to see him do is leave we lose that guy Jerome combs, we're gonna, be we're gonna, be in trouble.

L

We're gonna be in trouble because not everybody's got full knowledge of that building like Chris does so we need to get another guy there with them to get that move to the next level here so I know, Wes has asked for it. I appealed to this committee over and over again I'm asking you to please.

A

Oh yeah I want to add something there to trying to find good competent help right now at what we pay is extremely hard. So if we can bring somebody on and train them have train them and get it all going in that in the right direction would be very, very helpful too, because it's very difficult to find people to want to come from what we pay be honest with you. It.

L

Really is a it really needs to happen here so I'm again, appealing to you guys to make this easier on Wes to get that done. Oh yeah it'll help everybody. It really will. So that's all I really have, but we worked really hard here. We worked really hard, there's still a lot of things that are wrong in this county they're. Still, these buildings all are going to need a trip.

L

We need to start changing this equipment out. This equipment is old, old old and needs to, and it really really is in need of a transition. Now to start getting this equipment updated. If we're gonna stay in these buildings, you're gonna have to do it eventually. I might probably my biggest concern in the counties that air handling unit wanted at the courthouse. That's about 86,000 dollar unit, and it's been there a long long time. So, if I, we have any concerns at all, that's probably one of them. So we love.

L

We just had some work done on it again and and to keep that one going is gonna, be tough, so I I would plan for a transition on that. If we don't do anything else right now,.

L

That's a tough word other than that roofs are coming wet. Those are those are coming. So we've we've made massive improvement on our roofs. Our buildings are in good shape overall I think we're doing okay, maintaining them. So that's all I have I. Thank you for understanding me I'm, not a politician. You all know that I'm never very good at that. So but.

A

You got your job done well,.

L

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for. Thank you. Allow me.

B

A

Okay, on that, we need an adjournment. You got two of them up there and I don't care for either one of those guys so we're mr. Lee just mental talk. Thank you appreciate it.