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From YouTube: Highways & Waterways Committee Meeting 8/17/2023
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Highways & Waterways Committee Meeting 8/17/2023 9:00 AM
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The
Burke
has
met
with
a
lot
of
the
coordinating
agencies.
They've
met
in
July,
Late
July.
They
met
with
when
it
says
a
two
gentlemen
from
Illinois
I'm,
assuming
that's
idnr
and
the
U.S
Army
Corps
The
Dredge,
permitting
requirements
and
what
type
of
permit
it
would
take
Burke
is
their
plan
is
to
submit
everything
once
that
muscle
survey
is
done.
There's
all
one
big
package,
that's
going
to
be
turned
in,
it's
probably
going
to
be
the
rgp
46
permit
as
well.
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That's
what
I'm
being
told,
please
don't
ask
me
to
give
you
a
long
explanation
of
that,
we'll
save
that
for
another
day
or
we
we
might
know
a
guy
who
could
explain
that
a
little
bit
better
The
Rock
Island
District
indicated
we
should
be
able
to
do
the
review
with
them
if
we
request
it
and
I
from
what
I
understand
from
Burke.
That
has
already
been
done.
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
a
minute
about
the
shift
in
the
Army
Corps
offices.
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If
you
will
of
water
jets,
that
we
can
use
boats
and
everything
to
pass,
but
it
almost
self-cleans
itself
in
a
way
that
we
would
have
to
get
out
there
in
the
years
to
come
and
do
some
restoration
three
five
years,
hopefully
we'd
have
to
get
in
there
with
our
equipment.
So
that's
the
overall
thought
there
Prairie
Engineers
is
the
company
that's
doing
the
bathymetric
work
through
the
planning
department
and
GIS
bathymetrics.
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If
you
remember,
is
almost
like
lidar
for
the
bottom
of
the
river,
it
senses
all
of
the
structures,
the
bed
of
the
river,
the
sediment
on
top
of
it.
So
you
can
estimate
how
many
cubic
yards
of
sediment
need
to
come
out.
What
the
actual
geology
and
morphology
of
the
river
are
in
those
areas,
so
we're
really
curious.
We've
got
they
did
the
single
beam
data
and
that's
a
hundred
percent
collected
Up
and
Down
the
River,
and
then
they
have
a
multi-beam
data.
That's
about
70
percent!
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From
what
I'm
finding
out
people
thought
that
they
were
the
muscle
survey
people
and
were
running
out
and
talking
to
them
about
how
excited
they
were,
that
they're
going
to
be
doing
the
dredging
project,
and
so
we
were
getting
reports
that
the
muscle
survey
was
going
on
when
it
was
actually
the
bathroom
metrics
that
was
going
on.
So
things
are
going
on.
It
seems
like
the
public
is
excited
out
in
that
area,
so
manual
death
checks.
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So
all
that
sediment
is
not
just
calving
into
the
river,
so
much
so
that
these
major
stretches
along
the
yellow
and
even
where
it
comes
into
the
Kankakee.
You
can
actually
see
the
bottom
of
the
river.
For
the
first
time-
and
you
know
at
least
50
years-
it's
it's-
it's
really
impressive
to
see
what's
happening
and
the
river
is
trying
to
re-channelize
itself
the
you
know
going
back
and
forth
so
I've
mentioned
that
before.
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But
it's
also
really
interesting
to
see
that,
no
matter
what
we
try
to
do,
the
river
still
tries
to
be
a
river.
So
that
should
be
a
warning
for
everybody
here
or
at
least
in
the
community,
that
you
still
can't
build
a
house
next
to
the
river
and
expect
it
not
to
flood
because
it
is
going
to
flood
at
some
point.
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Where
a
what
do
they
call
it?
An
herbicide
was
applied
because
the
invasive
species
is
a
bush
honeysuckle,
it's
all
over
our
area
too,
and
what
it
does
is
it
gets
on
the
bank
and
it
doesn't
let
anything
else
grow
there
and
it
destabilizes
the
bank
and
all
that
sediment
just
pours
in
even
the
trees
fall
over
it's
a
completely
destructive
invasive
species
that
we
have
to
get
out
of
there
and
then
replant
those
native
species
that
have
the
long
rooting
systems
that
hold
everything
in
place.
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So
we're
not
doing
that
now,
but
it's
a
good
example
of
why
we
need
to
communicate
and
talk
to
the
people
who
were
they
had
the
stakeholders
in
the
river,
because
the
herbicide
that
was
used,
if
it's
in
a
pond,
you
can't
use
it
in
a
pond,
because
it's
not
good
for
well
rainbow
trout.
That's
it!
That's
the
only
fish
that
it
had
an
adverse
effect
to
was
rainbow
trout
and
we
don't
have
those
in
the
river.
So
it's
fully
vetted
permitted
by
I.
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You
know
idnr
and
everything,
but
I
just
want
to
let
this
committee
know
that
we're
going
to
be
having
to
do
some
of
those
things
here
to
stabilize
Banks.
We
just
have
to
make
sure
that
we're
working
with
the
public
and
they
understand
what's
going
on
specifically
because
we're
not
going
to
endanger
Fish,
Wildlife
and
habitat.
That's
just
not
what
we're
here
for
so
some
log
jams,
I,
just
I
thought
it
was
important
to
mention
that
you
know
they're,
always
working
on
log
jams
over
there.
One
man's
habitat
is
another.
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Man's
obstruction
depends
on
if
you
got
a
fishing
pole
and
or
a
boat.
So
let's
see
any
questions
about
what's
going
on
in
Indiana,
State
Line
bridge
is
still
waiting
on
the
federal
government.
Just
in
case
everybody
wants
to
know.
Feds
have
to
basically
let
us
off
the
hook
on
repairing
a
bridge
that
can't
even
be
driven
on
by
modern
cars.
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Next
item
is
that
public
notice,
where
the
U.S
Army
Corps
our
new
office,
is
going
to
be
the
Chicago
District.
That
is
good
because
much
of
the
the
river
in
Indiana
is
under
Chicago.
Even
their
flood
planning
that
they're
working
on
right
now
is
out
of
the
Chicago
office
and,
as
I
mentioned
before,
we
should
be
able
to
continue
to
work
on
the
projects
on
the
table
with
Rockford
Quad
Cities.
Excuse
me
to
complete
those
projects,
but
everything
new
would
probably
shift
over
into
Chicago
from
that
point
forward.
So.
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It
could
help
to
expedite
it,
but
it
also
it
helps
with
it's
still
the
same
river
on
each
side
of
the
state
line,
and
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
talk
to
two
separate
offices
when
you're
talking
about
a
plan
or
you're
re-educating
people
on
the
same
principles
over
and
over
again.
So
right
that
or
specifics
within
a
region
of
why
you're
doing
what
you're
doing
so,
I
see
it
as
nothing
but
good
I
wish
I
still
think.
Detroit
is
over
that
northernmost
part.
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You
know
up
by
Notre
Dame
up
in
that
area,
where
the
river
starts
up.
There
I
think
that
is
still
Detroit,
which
is
a
problem
we
wish
we
could
get
the
whole
river
under
one
one
office,
yeah
yeah,
so
any.
If
there's
no
questions
about
that,
it's
not
a
problem
until
it
is
a
problem,
I
guess
and
it
doesn't
look
like
it
will
be-
there's
also
a
map
on
there.
That
shows
the
region
here
in
Illinois,
but
it
does
you
see
the
red
outline
in
Indiana
of
those
counties
over
there
as
well.
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So,
let's
see
here,
I
want
to
make
sure
I've
got
everything
there.
Last
item
was
well:
Ben
is
working
on
the
grant.
We
already
have
a
lot
of
the
the
documentation
as
far
as
the
one
million
dollars
goes,
the
grant
numbers
all
that's
ready
to
go
once
we're.
We
could
pay
bills
if
you
will
from
the
state
once
that
starts
flowing
in
this
was
the
last
thing.
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I
was
going
to
throw
to
the
committee
and
we
could
we
can
get
more
specific
after
this,
but,
as
I
mentioned,
there's
a
lot
of
stakeholders
in
this.
This
community
people
that
are
fishermen
boaters,
just
you
know,
love
to
walk
along
the
river.
You
know
whatever
hikers
the
whole
thing,
kayaks
canoes
or
you
just
you
know
whatever
just
you
you
enjoy,
you
missed
the
boat
races
and
you
wish
they
would
come
back.
You
know
that
kind
of
stuff.
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So,
as
we
go
through
this
process,
I
think
it's
a
really
good
idea
to
do
like
we
have
done
with
awac,
where
we
have
the
shelters
and
vets
on
an
advisory.
Council
I
think
it'd
be
a
really
good
idea.
If
we
consider
the
makeup
of
and
the
instituting
of
a
subcommittee
that
feeds
into
this
committee
that
we
vet
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we're
talking
about
doing
and
ordering
the
projects
into
the
areas
of
importance,
I
think
those
people
that
use
the
river
need
to
get
in
the
room
together.
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I.E
the
fishermen
who
thinks
that
Log
Jam
is
habitat
and
the
boater
who
thinks
it's
an
obstruction.
I
would
love
them
to
have
conversations
together
to
come
to
Solutions
and
then
bring
those
things
to
us,
and
we
may
agree,
we
may
not
agree
recommendation
could
be
dredge.
The
whole
River
end
to
end,
and
we
would
say
no,
because
we
don't
have
200
million
dollars,
and
that's
probably
the
last
thing
you
want
to
do.
It
would
make
it
worse.
To
be
honest,
but
again
we
would
also
take
recommendations
on.
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We
think
that
this
is
a
priority.
That's
a
priority.
This
Log
Jam
is
really
doing
this.
They
probably
would
have
said
Aroma.
Park
was
a
huge
problem.
If
we
would
ask
this
question,
you
know
two
years
ago,
so
it's
really
up
to
the
committee,
but
I
can
start
talking
to
those
people
to
find
out.
You
know
is
it
who
should
be
at
the
table
and
we
got
a
good
idea
by
the
people
that
are
stepping
up
and
active
right
now.
But
I
wouldn't
wouldn't
do
this.
If
you
didn't
think
it
was
helpful.
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I'll
start
coming
up
with
a
list,
not
a
people
but
of
organizations
like
maybe
it's
a
Northern
Illinois
Anglers.
They
send
somebody
here
and
if,
if
there's
other
fishermen,
they
talk
to
them
I
again,
it's
stuff
like
that.
We
can't
have
the
room
full
of
50
people
that
are
voting
members,
but
we
could
have
50
people
in
the
room
where
seven
of
them
are
voting.
Members
I
hope
that
makes
sense.
We
want
all
input,
but
you
can't
have
it
be
unruly.
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We
would
probably
want
to
to
form
it
in
a
way
that
allows
them
to
hear
a
proposal
that
we're
putting
in
front
of
it.
Listen
to
the
the
subject
matter,
experts
that
they
are
again
subject
matter
experts,
maybe
a
policy
I'm
building
next
to
the
river.
You
know
those
types
of
things
it
has
to
be
so
many
feed
off.
You
know
whatever
we
want
their
input,
but
it's
important
that
we
can't
have
too
many
in
there.
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D
Maybe
a
boat
club
rotates
right
every
year
a
different
boat
club
comes
on
and
they
send
somebody
to
the
meetings.
I,
don't
know
we
don't
want
to
be
exclusive,
but
do
we
want
every
Boat
Club
you
see,
but
they
can
come
to
every
meeting,
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
getting
at
here.
It's
just
a
structure
is
what
we
need
to
work
on.
A
All
right
moving
on
next
on
the
agenda
will
be
the
highways,
but
before
we
get
started
and
I
pass
this
to
you
can
I
have
a
motion
to
combine
the
County
engineer,
pay
estimate
motion,
Miss
tunnel;
second
Mr
feddling,
everybody
in
favor
signify
but
say
aye.
Anybody
opposed
him
sign.
Okay,
go
ahead,
sir.
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All
right,
we've
got
quite
a
few
this.
The
month
first
one
Kankakee
County,
Section,
23000
GM
pay
estimate
three
to
Cargill.
That's
road
salt.
We
filled
up
our
Dome,
so
we're
ready
to
go
come
winter
time
at
least
material
wise
in
the
amount
of
forty
two
thousand
one
hundred
and
seventy
five
dollars
and
seventy
three
cents.
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E
E
23-000-00-Gm
pay
estimate
one
to
Midwest
defense
corporation.
This
is
for
guard
rail,
end
sections
metal
guard
rail
in
sections
for
our
yardstock.
We
we
were
out
and
now
we're
we're
up
to.
We've
got
some
in
stock
now
in
the
amount
of
six
thousand
dollars
and
zero
cents
from
our
County
motor
fuel
tax
fund.
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23-000-0-Gm
supplement
one
pay
estimate
one
to
Potters
Industries,
and
this
is
for
glass
speeds
that
we
put
on
top
of
our
pavement
marking
lines.
So
you
can
see
them
at
night
in
the
amount
of
twenty
one
thousand
nine
hundred
and
twelve
dollars
and
zero
cents
to
be
paid
for
out
of
our
County
mft
fund.
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E
E
E
E
This
is
pay
estimate
two
and
final.
Usually
these
sit
for
a
long
time
until
idot
sends
us
a
final
bill
for
a
project.
We
we
pay
estimated
up
to
a
certain
point.
Once
the
final
quantities
have
been
determined,
then
they
are
able
to
determine
the
our
final
share
of
the
project
and
that's
what
this
bill
is
for
from
way
back
in
the
amount
of
forty,
seven
thousand
nine
hundred
and
ten
dollars
and
seventy
cents,
and
it
comes
from
our
County
matching
tax
fund.
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A
A
E
We've
issued
the
permit
to
Nicor
out
on
County
Highway
54
and
42.
they're
out
there
installing
it
right
now,
so
they
didn't
waste
any
time
once
they
got
our
permit
they're
going
ahead.
If
they've
been
dealing
with
all
the
townships
and
supposedly
they've
reached
approval
with
the
township,
so
there
should
be
no
roadblocks
within
our
County.
So.
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E
Comed
we're
still
we've
received
a
response
from
comment
that
we're
not
thrilled
about
in
response
to
our
comments
about
the
things
that
need
fixing
out
there.
So
we're
preparing
our
rebuttal
to
their
comments.
We,
we
were
waiting
for
our
response
from
the
drainage
districts
and
then
we
should
have
pretty
much
be
final.
We
can
send
a
unified
response,
which
is
how
we've
been
doing
it
along
here
and.
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Okay,
just
so
the
committee
knows:
there's
a
ComEd
fiber
project,
that's
going
through
rural
Limestone
Township
that
we're
not
necessarily
thrilled
about
the
way
that
they're
installing
these,
well,
especially
the
boxes
and
where
they're
going
underground
and
above
ground,
and
things
like
that.
So
we're
we're
in
Greg's
been
in
communication
with
them
Mr
long,
County,
Board
member.
Obviously
that's
his
area
he's
quite
concerned,
so
we've
been
bird
dogging
this.
So
if
you
need
us
again,
let
us
know.
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D
Arizona,
basically,
the
the
plastic
junction
boxes
were
put
on
the
the
downward
slope
in
some
places.
That
was
just
one
of
the
problems,
but
you
know
how
it
is
on
a
rural
road.
If
there's
a
combine
in
the
school
bus,
they
each
take
part
of
that
shoulder
and
you
can't
drive
over
a
plastic
box
they're
going
to
last
like
a
day,
especially
in
the
winter,
with
plows.
So
I
think
that
that
part
needs
to
be
addressed
and.
E
We
were
our
comment
was
to
put
them
at
the
far
end
of
the
right
away
and
off
the
back
slope
and
right.
They
commented
on
that
and
we're
going
to
keep
commenting
on
it
that
we
want
it
where
we
want
it.
It's
it's
our
roads
out
there,
it's
the
Township
roads
exactly
and
not
to
mention
the
tile
issues
with
going
through
tiles,
and
we
have
to
they
say
they
didn't
hit
any
so
we're
going
to
have
to
go
out
and
verify
them,
because
we've
got
evidence
that
they
did.