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Planning, Zoning & Agriculture Committee Meeting 1/16/2019 9:00 AM
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A
Thank
you
next
up
will
be
the
approval
of
minutes.
Is
anyone
Oh
public
comment?
Okay,
next
up
will
be
public
comment
and
I.
Don't
think
we
have
any
public
today.
Is
there
anyone
fill
out
a
card.
I
didn't
get
anything
from
anyone.
Okay,
we'll
have
a
poot.
Next
will
be
approval
of
minutes
from
December
19th.
That's
where
I
got
my
December
19th
from
got
a
motion.
Mr.
Washington,
you
get
second,
okay,.
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A
A
C
Ms
4
is
you
know
the
SS
4
SS
municipal,
separate,
separated
storm
sewer
system
and
we
are
required
by
the
IEP,
a
and
ultimately
the
EPA,
to
monitor
that
system.
Twice
a
year
we
go
out
and
inspect
inlets
in
our
territory
that
go
into
the
Kankakee
River
and
let's
outlets,
we're
looking
for
pollution
and
illicit
discharges
into
that
system,
and
we
have
to
report
that
to
the
IEP
a
once
a
year
go
to
our
website.
All
of
the
previous
reports
are
are
on
there,
he's,
basically
keeping
art
ms4
permit,
up-to-date
and
legal
okay.
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A
A
You
wanna
hear
have
any
ex
parte
communications
with
any
of
the
cases
that
are
on
the
agenda
for
tonight.
For
today,
that
would
be
easy,
be
a
case
1855
and
1856.
If
no
one
has
anything
we'll
skip
over
that
and
say
there
was
a
nun
nun
reported
and
okay.
The
next
stop
would
be
a
zba
case,
1855,
a
request
for
a
test
amendment
to
the
county
code,
121
3,
+,
1,
21,
99,
an
amendment
to
the
solar
farm
requirement
of
the
a1
agricultural
district.
The
petitioners
can't
Kiki
County.
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C
Our
solar
farm
ordinance
was
originally
adopted
in
May,
9th
2017
and
over
the
course
of
the
last
year
we've
had
about
well.
We've
had
48,
especially
use
permit
requests
for
solar
farms.
During
the
course
of
that
time,
we
have
discovered
that
there
are
some
issues
with
our
ordinance
that
need
to
be
clarified
and
corrected,
and
so
we're
asking
the
committee
today
to
review
that
and
hopefully
approve
those
Corrections.
C
If
you
look
at
the
staff
report
in
your
packet
for
this
items
that
we
are
adding
to,
the
ordinance
are
in
green
items
that
we
are
deleting
are
in
red,
with
a
strikeout
through
them.
So
if
you
go
to
page
two,
first
set
of
changes
are
setbacks.
We
wanted
to.
There
was
some
confusion
with
the
developers
and
the
designers
as
to
how
to
measure
the
setbacks
and
where
to
measure
them
from.
So
we
clarified
that,
as
far
as
what
we
had
first,
we
had
just
had
from
Road
right
away.
C
Lines
would
be
a
hundred
feet
from
the
front
property
line
would
be
one
100
feet
setback.
We
changed
that
to
mean
roads,
so
any
property
line
that
a
bucks,
a
road
or
right-of-way
would
be
a
hundred
foot
setback.
There
was
some
confusion
from
the
developers
on
that
as
to
what
a
front
yard
is
and
where
the
setback
would
start,
and
our
original
intention
was
anywhere,
there
was
a
road
was
100
foot
setback,
so
we
made
the
text
say
that
in
addition,
we
there
was
some
issue
about
100
foot
setback
from
residentially
zoned
Lots.
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C
Prior
to
the
issuance
of
a
building
permit,
rather
than
at
the
zoning
application
as
part
of
the
building
permit
application
submitted
a
map
showing
the
locations
any
and
all
subsurface
drain
tiles
shall
be
provided
to
the
building
division
and
the
appropriate
drainage
district.
If
any.
So,
they
must
supply
us
with
that
map
before
the
building
permit
as
part
of
the
building
permit
application,
which
is
a
more
appropriate
place
for
it.
Yes,.
F
He
died
so,
but
I
think
that
the
neighbors,
if
you
find
that
a
tile
runs
through
this
property
and
into
a
neighbor's
or
from
a
neighbor,
you
know
what
I'm
saying
so
any
time.
There's
an
adjacent
tile
line
found
that
that
neighbor
should
prompt
could
be
alerted
to
the
fact
that
there,
so
if
they
do
have
any
problems,
it's
now
been
notated
that
they've
been.
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F
C
There's
no
engineering
review
at
Zoning
Board,
but
there
is
at
the
building
permit
and
that's
where
it
needs
to
be
reviewed
right.
So
that's
why
we're
moving
it
here
we
put
in
to
notify
the
drainage
districts
because
they
should
know
not.
They
don't
always
know
exactly
where
all
their
tiles
are.
So
if
a
Maps
created,
they
really
should
have
have
that
not.
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G
Think
miss
Peters
has
a
valid
consideration.
I
think
miss
Peters
has
a
valid
consideration.
We
ran
into
that
problem
on
a
project
we
did.
Everybody
thought
they
knew
where
the
tiles
were
and
come
to
find
out
that
there
was
another
tile
that
only
the
adjacent
property
owner
knew
ran
through
that
track.
So
some
way
they
should
be
notified
a
surrounding
property
owner.
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F
You
mr.
chairman
I
have
another
question
so
say
they
plant
the
evergreens
as
a
screen
and
they
all
die.
What
happens
at
that
point
because
I
don't
know
if
anybody's
notice,
when
you
drive
around
there's
a
lot
of
dead
evergreens-
and
you
know
you
hear
rumors
like
in
20
years,
they're
all
gonna
be
dead.
But
again
this
isn't
just
a
local
issue.
I've
seen
it
as
I'm
traveling,
Minnesota
and
Wisconsin
and
Florida.
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F
A
We
had
quite
a
bit
of
discussion
about
the
height
of
the
stuff
because
they
don't
want
it
too.
If
you
planted
it
on
this
city
planted
on
the
south
end
or,
and
it
blocks
gets
to
where
it
starts,
blocking
the
Sun
in
the
winter
time
or
and
afternoon,
Sun
and
stuff
the
day,
they
would
need
to
take
care
of
a
maintain.
So.
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C
If
you
go
to
page
six,
an
update
to
the
decommissioning
plan
should
be
submitted
to
the
county
every
three
years.
That
should
have
said,
shall
we
want
it
to
be
required,
not
passive
and
the
main
reason
we
even
read.
We
went
back
and
did
all
of
this
was
item
D,
revocation
currently,
unless
specified
otherwise
somewhere
in
the
ordinance.
All
special
use
permits
are
only
valid
for
twelve
months
from
the
date
of
county
board
approval.
C
Some
of
our
first
ones
are
coming
up
doing
March
and
we
have
not
received
a
building,
permit
application,
form
and
I
doubt
we
will,
because
the
lottery
isn't
even
till
January
30th,
so
just
like
we
did
with
the
wind
farms
because
of
the
building
window
on
is
much
longer
on
these
types
of
things.
We
want
to
revoke
that
part
of
the
ordinance
and
give
these
solar
farms
a
3
year,
36
month
commencement
period
instead
of
the
12-month.
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A
Okay.
The
next
case
we
have
today
is
EBA
case
1856,
the
request
for
a
variance
pers
to
section
121
281
accessory
structure
in
the
front
yard,
on
a
parcel
generally
situated
in
Section
25
of
Sumner
Township.
The
petitioner
is
Carol
Larson
property
owner
and
applicant
okay
Dober.
You
want
to
run
us
through
this
or.
C
I
certainly
will
miss
Larson
owns
the
property
outlined
on
red
in
the
end,
the
farm
field,
that's
on
the
screen
up
there.
It
was
her
mother's
property
and
she
has
passed
away
and
they
would
like
to
keep
the
home
but
sell
the
farm
land
she's
applied
for
a
farmstead
exemption
to
divide
the
home
from
the
farm.
One
of
the
stipulations
of
the
farmstead
exemption
is
that
the
the
property
must
meet
all
of
the
county
codes
and
be
in
compliance
with
them.
Fortunately,
the
county
code
says
that
you
cannot
have
accessory
structures
in
the
front
yard.
C
There
is
an
existing
pole,
barn
that
has
been
there
for
probably
20
or
30
years.
That
is
built
up
by
the
road
which
is
clearly
in
the
front
yard.
So
she
had
two
options:
either
removed
the
pole,
barn
or
apply
for
a
variance
special
consideration
to
go
against
the
code.
If
the
County
Board
approves
the
variance,
then
she
would
be
in
compliance
with
the
county
code.
Okay,.
A
Okay
for
planning
tonight
or
today,
I
keep
saying
tonight.
We
have
miss
Jane's
here,
Emily
Jane.
She
goes
to
our
zoning
board
meetings
and
goes
over
at
least
the
scores
and
explains
it
to
each
particular
site
like
if
we
have
a
site
on
a
corner.
She
checks.
Everything
out,
tells
us
the
soil
always
and
puts
all
the
numbers
together
with
a
large
formula.
We're
gonna
get
a
little
a
report
on
how
to
do
on
how
how
she
does
this
and
work
how
it
falls
into
the
categories
for
our
zoning
cases.
H
Right
all
right,
I'm,
Emily,
Jane's
and
I
am
the
resource
conservationist
from
the
Kankakee
County
Soil
and
Water
Conservation
District.
Thank
you
guys
for
inviting
me
to
this
meeting
and
letting
me
go
over
a
little
bit
about
our
natural
resource
and
evolution
reports,
as
well
as
the
land,
evaluation
and
site
assessment
score
or
the
Lisa
score.
That's
included
in
those
reports.
I
put
together
a
packet
for
you
guys
and
we'll
just
kind
of
flip
through
this
together,
but
what
I'm
gonna
do
is
I'm
gonna
go
over.
H
What
the
NRI
report
is,
what
the
Lisa
score
is
and
then
I'm
just
going
to
quickly.
Tell
you
the
contents
of
the
report,
as
well
as
how
the
Lisa
score
is
broken
down
and
how
I
arrived
at
the
300
point:
Lisa
score:
okay,
I'm,
so
the
NRI
report
or
the
natural
resource
information
report
that
my
district
puts
together
includes
a
lot
of
natural
resource
information.
It
includes
you
can
see
on
the
page,
all
the
following
maps:
we
have
a
site,
location
map,
a
soils
map,
a
prime
farmland,
soils,
hydric
soils.
H
H
So
that's
what
that
is
the
contents
of
the
actual
report
itself,
so
it's
maps
and
information
associated
with
those
maps
for
the
applicant
and
then
the
item.
That's
of
most
interest
for
the
application
process
is
the
leases
for
or
the
land
evaluation
inside
assessment
score.
Elisa
system
was
designed
to
be
an
advisory
tool
when
evaluating
a
site
for
development.
H
Our
score
for
Kankakee
County
was
put
together,
I
believe
in
2006
and
the
Soil
and
Water
Conservation
District
and
the
Planning
Department
and
a
few
other
entities
will
come
to
get
came
together
and
they
put
together
a
Lisa
system
specific
for
cane
Kankakee
County,
so
that
the
parcels
can
be
evaluated
and
this
score
overall
is
used
to
really
portray
and
give
information
about
the
agricultural
viability
of
a
site.
So
it's
put
together
to
protect
good
agricultural
land
in
Kankakee
County
from
development,
so
the
score
is
broken
down.
H
H
The
site
assessment
score
is
calculated
on
a
bunch
of
different
factors,
and
these
factors
were
picked
by
the
county
and
Soil
and
Water
Conservation
districts,
specifically
for
Kankakee
County,
when
if
this
score
was
developed,
so
some
of
the
factors
that
we'll
go
over
our
agricultural
land
uses
compatibility
and
impact
of
proposed
uses,
land
use,
feasibility
and
the
existence
of
infrastructure.
H
After
the
leases
score
is
calculated,
then
it
will
either
be
it'll
either
reflect
a
low,
moderate
or
high
priority
for
protection
for
that
site,
and
the
Lisa
score
from
0
to
199
will
indicate
an
area
of
low
priority
for
protection
or
agricultural
land.
From
two
hundred
to
two
hundred
and
twenty
four
indicates
an
area
of
moderate
priority
for
protection
and
then
ELISA
score.
225
can
above
indicates
an
area
of
high
priority
for
protection,
and
then
our
district
will
then
form
its
opinion
based
on
the
Lisa
score.
H
So
we
will
not
oppose
ELISA
score
with
a
low
priority
for
protection.
We
will
have
further
discussions
and
arrive
at
our
our
stance
if
it's
a
moderate
score,
but
anything
225
and
above
we
will
not
support
the
development
on
the
particular
parcel.
So
if
you
open
up
to
the
next
page
just
page
two,
this
is
the
actual
table
that
is
included
in
our
land,
evaluation
and
site
assessment
portion
of
our
report.
H
This
is
the
land
evaluation
score
worksheet,
so
there's
a
few
different
things
that
go
into
arriving
at
this
final
land
evaluation
score,
which
is
at
the
bottom,
and
this
this
is
the
score.
That's
out
of
100
points,
so
you
can
see.
There
are
different
line
items
up
here
you
can
see
the
soil
type
is
listed,
so
I
will
look
up
the
soil
type
and
then
an
ad
group
is
assigned
to
that
specific
soil
type
and
then
a
relative
value,
which
is
just
a
fixed
value.
H
So
if
we
have
an
ad
group,
that's
higher
it's
going
to
be
prime
soil
and
AD
group-
that's
lower
is
going
to
be
less
productive,
soil
and
then
I
list
the
acres
as
well,
and
then
the
Excel
spreadsheet
will
run
its
calculations
and
arrive
at
the
land
evaluation.
Subtotal
I
did
include
the.
If
you
put
two
more
pages
there
is
a
soil
productivity
chart
here,
as
well
as
the
page
following
there
is
the
agricultural
group
definitions
listed
here.
I,
don't
want
to
go
into
detail
about
these.
H
G
H
Not
have
I
have
a
degree
in
zoology
and
chemistry,
but
all
of
this
information
is
its
if
the
process
is
something
that
anybody
can
go
through,
but
the
information
that
I
rely
upon
is
from
the
soil
survey
of
Kankakee
County,
but
so
the
Excel
spreadsheets
were
set
up
for
the
for
the
Lisa
process
for
our
County,
specifically,
any
of
the
information
is
pulled
from
the
soil
to
pinkie
key
County
book
or
the
NRCS
web
soil
survey.
So.
H
H
G
H
This
report
is
something
that
was
put
together
by
the
county,
or
the
process
was
put
together
by
the
county,
our
Soil
and
Water
Conservation
District,
and
when
the
report
and
process
was
put
together
in
2006,
we
did
have
a
gentleman
who
was
working
on
it.
Who
had
my
position.
He
had
a
seep
esque.
He
worked
a
lot
with
soil
or
sediment
and
erosion
plant.
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E
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G
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F
You,
mr.
chairman,
and
just
to
give
you
a
little
bit
more
background,
my
husband
is
on
Soil
and
Water.
Conservation
District
he's
been
on
it
for
15
20
years,
but
they
do
look
at
all
that
data.
Even
though
the
state
of
Illinois
is
mandated
to
fund
the
Soil
and
Water
Conservation
District,
they
have
pretty
much
stopped
it's
a
very
nominal
budget
in
there,
but
we
do
maintain
employees
in
that
department
still
and
those
board.
F
H
C
H
I
guess
I
and
I
don't
want
to
I.
Don't
want
any
of
this
to
be
too
in
detail,
but
I
guess
the
overall
thing
that
I
want
to
point
out
with
the
soils:
the
100-point
land
evaluation
subtotal.
It
is
based
upon
soil
productivity.
So
if
a
tire,
a
higher
rating
indicates
soils
that
are
better
for
agricultural
production,
so
they're,
typically
prime
soils
and
soil,
and
if
it's
a
lower
rating,
then
it's
composed
of
soils
that
have
a
lower
value
and
they're,
not
as
productive.
So
it
probably
is
more
marginal
ground.
H
The
site
assessment
score
on
this
one
is
a
little
bit
easier
to
break
down.
So
if
you
go
to
the
last
two
pages
of
the
packet,
this
is
the
200
point
site
assessment
score,
and
this
is
the
worksheet
that
was
put
together.
That
I
then
will
fill
out
according
to
the
site
characteristics.
H
So
it's
broken
down
into
a
few
different
categories,
and
I
won't
go
through
everything,
but
basically
I
will
go
out
and
I
will
do
a
site.
Visit
and
I
will
look
for
any
natural
resource,
special
material
resources,
and
this
is
something
that
I
have
gone
out
with
our
NRCS
district
conservationist
and
he's
shown
me
how
to
identify
different
conservation
practices
on
that
might
be
important
and
that
should
be
taken
into
consideration
such
as
like
grass,
waterways
or
wind
breaks,
and
things
like
that.
But
the
agricultural
land
use
is
broken
down.
H
You
can
see
that
the
percentage
of
area
and
agricultural
uses
within
a
1.5
mile
radius
of
the
site,
so
I
do
use
GIS
software
to
do
this
portion
of
the
report,
so
I
create
a
buffer
around
the
location
and
then
I
see
what
percentage
of
area
in
that
1.5
radiates.
1.5
mile
radius
is
within
agricultural
use
and
then
I
will
assign
it.
H
A
rating
you
can
see
is
broken
down
under
me
there
on
that's
the
process
that
I
follow
for
the
rest
of
these
factors
or
land
use,
adjacent
to
site
percentage
of
site
and
agricultural
production
and
the
size
of
site.
So
then
I'll
just
fill
out
and
assign
the
specific
factors
that
correlate
with
that
location.
H
Compatibility
and
impact
of
proposed
uses.
The
distance
from
the
city
or
village,
if
it
is
far
if
it
is
further
than
one-and-a-half
miles
out,
gets
a
high
score
of
twenty
points
and
then
the
consistency
of
proposed
use
within
county
or
municipal
land
use
plan
and
compatibility
of
agricultural
and
non-agricultural
uses.
So
the
consistency
of
proposed
uses
within
our
County
or
minos
for
land
use
plan
if
it
is
outside
of
the
one
and
a
half
mile
radius.
H
Typically
I
will
look
at
the
land
use
plan
or
the
plan
that
the
county
has
put
together
and
then
assign
whether
it
falls
within
that
plan
or
not,
and
then
the
compatibility
of
agricultural
and
non-agricultural
uses
if
you're
going
to
build
something
on
agricultural
land,
and
so
let's
use
the
solar
farms.
For
example,
I
give
that
a
rating
of
15
is
not
consistent
because
after
you
construct
the
solar
farm
in
that
area
on
the
AG
land,
it
can
no
longer
be
used
for
agricultural
production
on
land
use.
H
Feasibility
is
broken
down
into
soil
limitations,
the
impact
on
the
environment.
We
look
at
different
natural
resources
there,
the
occurrence
of
known
or
identified
natural
areas.
So
we
look
at
wetlands
or
threatened
endangered
species
which
comes
from
a
report
from
NRCS
and
I.
Believe
that's
also
supposed
to
be
turned
into
the
county
as
well.
Plotting
and
stormwater
management.
H
The
existence
of
infrastructure,
available,
available,
'ti
of
central
sewage
and
central
water
are
numbers
that
Delbert
will
send
to
me.
So
then
I
do
those
Calgary
find
the
factors
that
match
up
there
in
transportation
and
the
fire
protection
district.
So
all
I
have
a
lot
of
layers
on
my
GIS
that
come
from
the
counties.
H
So,
overall,
this
200-point
site
assessment
is
based
on
all
of
those
different
factors
and
then
the
site
at
land,
evaluation
and
site
assessment
are
added
together
and
they
have
a
maximum
value
of
300
points
and
then
like
on
the
first
page,
we
talked
about
how
a
higher
rating
we
would
want
to
protect
our
agricultural
land
there
and
a
lower
rating.
It
is
a
lower
rating
for
protection,
so
anybody
have
any
questions
on
anything.
Yes,
okay,.
E
H
For
for
the
solar
panels
itself,
it
does
kind
of
depend
on
the
developer
for
our
County.
They
passed
an
ordinance
or
they
recommend
that
they
plant
native
plants
underneath
the
solar
panels,
and
so,
if
you're
gonna,
plant
native
plants,
their
roots,
actually
percolate
a
lot,
they
go
down
a
lot
deeper
than
with
corn
or
soybeans.
So
that's
actually
going
to
help
stormwater
runoff
from
the
panels,
and
it's
going
to
improve
soil
health
over
that
twenty
to
forty
year
period
that
the
solar
panel
is
up
and
in
Illinois
I.
Don't
think.
H
G
E
A
C
We
had
a
fairly
light
agenda,
so
I
thought
I
would
also
do
planning
and
zoning
101,
which
last
month,
if
you
recall
Part
A,
was
discussing
what
our
office
actually
does
need
to
start
there.
So
you
know
what
who
we
are
and
what
we
do
and
now
we're
gonna
go
to
planning
and
zoning
so
start
out
with
how
does
the
county
get
its
power
to
zone?
C
We
are
a
child
of
the
state
counties
and
municipalities
which
are
not
home.
Rule
Yankee
County
is
not
have
only
the
powers
granted
to
them
that
the
state
lets
us
have.
This
is
also
known
as
Dillon's
rule,
which
comes
from
John
F
Dillon,
a
Supreme
Court
justice
in
1868,
and
that
has
been
a
cornerstone
of
American
municipal
law
ever
since
that
it
maintains
that
a
political
subdivision
of
a
state
is
connected
to
the
state
as
a
child
is
connected
to
a
parent.
C
So
we
have
only
the
authority
that
the
state
allows
us
to
have,
and
that
is
where
we
get
our
zoning
authority
in
55
ILCs,
five
Division,
5-12,
County
zoning,
so
that
statute
governs
our
authority
to
zone
and
to
have
a
local
zoning
ordinance.
So
in
Kankakee
County
three
things
are
governing
zoning.
The
state
statute
number
one,
our
local
ordinance,
that
must
be
in
compliance
with
the
state
statute
and
it
not
oh,
it
isn't
always
and
of
course,
case
law
is
constantly
changing
the
rules.
C
Every
time
a
new
court
ruling
comes
out,
the
rules
change
a
bit
and
that
does
change
how
we
interpret
and
in
this
administer
the
program.
History
of
zoning.
Zoning
in
the
United
States
goes
back
to
just
about
as
old
as
the
country
is
back
in
colonial
America.
They
were
regulating
various
industries
and
for
because
of
their
ability
to
be
a
nuisance,
goes
back
to
English
common
law
doctrine
of
nuisances.
C
Providing
you
do
not
create
a
nuisance
or
injure
your
neighboring
properties.
Some
of
the
older
laws
Connecticut
actually
granted
some
cities
authority
to
adopt
laws
regulating
the
placement
of
structures.
These
are
some
very
early
attempts
at
zoning
ordinances
and
even
New
York
City,
then
around
the
late
19th
early
20th
century,
due
to
the
large
number
of
immigrants
entering
the
country.
C
What
is
planning
planning
is
the
orderly,
open
approach
to
determining
local
needs,
setting
goals
and
priorities
and
developing
a
guide
for
action.
It's
a
concentrated
effort
by
a
community
to
reach
a
balance
between
the
natural
environment,
residential
commercial,
industrial
and
agricultural
development,
and
it's
a
guide
for
the
public
officials,
yourselves
and
private
citizens
to
use
in
making
informed
decisions
that
will
affect
the
community
change
is
inevitable.
Planning
is
a
process
that
helps
the
community
prepare
for
that
change,
rather
than
react
to
it.
C
Planning
is
not
an
attempt
to
replace
market
forces,
it
needs
to
react
to
those
forces
such
as
what
we're
going
through
right
now
with
the
uptick
we
have
in
commercial
and
industrial
development.
Our
plans
do
not
reflect
that
because
our
plan
was
from
2005
and
we
had
no
way
of
knowing
what
was
going
to
happen
now.
So
we
need
to
adjust
the
plan.
It
is
not
action.
It's
only
a
guide
for
action
things
we
do
in
this
room
are
the
actions
that
are
reflected
in
the
plan.
C
It's
not
a
silver
bullet,
it's
not
the
end-all
it.
It
does
provide
some
limits,
some
limited
communities
to
foster
their
change
and
it
is
not
static.
We
have
to
continually
update
our
plans
to
reflect
the
changing
forces
that
are
occurring,
and
it's
not
zoning.
Zoning
is
completely
separate.
Zoning
is
a
tool
that
we
use
to
implement
the
plan.
So
when
you're
making
zoning
decisions,
you
should
always
be
consulting
the
plan
to
see
if
it's
compatible
with
that
plan,
and
if
it's
not,
but
you
still
want
it,
then
we
should
probably
change
the
plan.
Okay.
C
So
what
is
a
comprehensive
plan?
As
I
said?
Ours
was
last
adopted
in
2005.
You
typically
update
them
every
15
to
20
years,
it's
a
guide
for
physical
development
and
it's
a
vision
for
the
future,
but
it
is
general
in
nature
because
you
don't
want
to
be
exactly
site-specific
on
it.
It's
so
it's
it's
more
generalizing
that
in
it
refers
a
lot
of
times
to
areas
rather
than
specific
sites.
C
It's
not
an
ordinance,
it's
not
law,
and
it
is
dynamic
and
flexible
if
it's
written
properly,
but
it
can
be
a
legal
basis
for
land
use
decisions
many
times
when
cases
do
go
to
court.
One
of
the
first
questions
asked
is:
what
does
the
comprehensive
plan
say
and
is
the
decision
consistent
with
that
plan?.
C
C
C
Zoning,
but
is
zoning,
it's
a
regulation
of
land
use
through
laws
which
apply
to
specific
designated
geographic
areas.
As
I
stated
earlier,
we
got
our
power
to
zone
from
the
Illinois
state
statute
and
we
established
our
own
ordinance,
which
is
a
government
record
governmental
regulation,
and
the
zoning
ordinance
consists
of
both
a
text
and
a
map
when
you're
making
zoning
changes.
You
are
making
a
map
amendment
which
he
did
this
morning
on
the
first
case,
that
was
a
text
amendment.
C
They
are
typically
regulated
by
district.
In
fact,
Kankakee
County.
We
do
regulate
land
uses
by
district.
Not
everyone
does
that
there
are
different
types
of
ordinances
out
there.
Ours
is
considered
a
geek
lydian
ordinance
and
that
is
regulated
by
district,
which
the
premise
there
is
that
incompatible
uses
be
separated
into
different
districts.
C
And
a
lot
of
the
court
cases
involving
zoning
really
revolve
around
takings.
Taking
is
the
taking
of
property
rights,
your
own
property.
You
have
rights
to
that
property,
and
the
government
has
to
be
very
careful
when
they're
writing
these
regulations
that
you
are
not
taking
away
property
rights
and
a
lot
of
the
court
cases
do
involve
the
question
of
property
rights
and
I
put
some
quotations
up
there.
C
So
you
can't
injure
the
surrounding
properties
or
your
community,
and
while
the
property
may
be
regulated
to
a
certain
extent,
if
regulation
goes
too
far,
it
will
be
recognized
as
a
taking
so
there's
a
balance
there.
The
balance
for
us
to
regulate
these
uses
so
that
they
don't
harm
others
without
eliminating
all
possible
uses
of
that
property
and
making
it
worthless.
C
So
that
means
we.
We
do
have
a
duty
to
protect
the
natural
environment,
so
the
submission
that
owners
may
establish
are
taking
simply
by
showing
that
they
have
that
denied
the
ability
to
exploit
a
property
interest
that
they
here
to
for
had
believed
was
available
for
development
is
quite
simply
untenable,
which
means
from
the
taking
standpoint
as
long
as
you
have
not
eliminated
all
possible
uses
of
the
land
you
can
regulate.
C
I
know
the
issue
of
property
rights
has
come
up
in
a
few
previous
meetings,
and
some
of
this
goes
back
to
you
actual
the
actual
US
Constitution.
Fifth,
amendment
takings
don't
want
versus
city
of
tear
garden.
That
was
a
landmark
case
regarding
the
practice
of
zoning
and
property
rights
and
served
us
to
have
much
limits
on
the
ability
of
cities
and
other
government
agencies
to
use
zoning
and
land
use
regulations
to
compel
property
owners
to
make
unrelated
public
improvements.
C
So
a
lot
of
times
you
you
see
in
our
zoning
cases,
where
can
we
make
them
improve
the
road
out
front?
Can
we
make
you
can,
but
it
has
to
be
directly
tied
to
that
specific
use.
You
can't
just
make
them
donate
to
the
school
they're,
not
putting
any
children
in
the
school,
but
if
they
are-
and
you
can
tie
it
to
it,
you
can
so
that's
really
what
that
means
and
due
process.
Something
very
important
in
the
zoning
process
is
that
we
follow
due
process
outlined
by
the
fifth
amendment
for
fair
and
equitable
process.
C
And
there's
a
lot
of
First
Amendment
issues
when
it
comes
to
zoning
and
religious
freedom
issues
as
well,
and
we
have
to
be
very
careful.
We
don't
violate
any
of
those
signage
and
adult
uses
always
come
up
with
the
First
Amendment
and,
of
course,
anytime,
that
there
is
a
religious
institution
involved.
You
have
to
pull
out
the
Religious
Freedom,
Restoration,
Act
and
federal,
ready
religious
land
use
and
institutionalized
person,
Act
make
sure
you're
not
violating
any
of
those,
and
we
have
to
make
sure
we
use
the
due
process
in
all
of
our
public
hearings.
C
Clarified
in
Sinclair
pipeline
versus
village
richard
park
actually
added
some
of
the
findings.
The
findings
of
fact
are
not
arbitrary
they're.
They
were
actually
outlined
in
these
court
cases
that
the
judge
at
the
time
said
that
you
need
to
look
at
at
these
specific
items
on
any
zoning
case,
and
you
need
to
answer
these
questions
and
said
there
was
a
list
of
I
think
seven
questions
originally
and
they
added
a
few
more
to
Montclair
time's
up.
But
that
is
why
we
have
findings
effect.
You
cannot
base
your
decision
on
arbitrary
information
or
opinions.
C
C
C
It
has
a
list
of
special
uses
that,
while
may
be
compatible
in
that
district,
they
meet
special
consideration
by
the
board
and
a
list
of
bulk
regulations
for
each
districts,
such
as
lot
size,
building
height
a
lot
with
things
of
that
nature,
and
then
we've
created
a
of
course,
a
official
zoning
map
that
outlines
where
those
districts
are
when
it
comes
to
uses.
If
the
use
is
not
included
in
the
list
of
permitted
uses,
it's
not
permitted
in
that
district.
C
Unless
it's
permitted
under
a
special
use,
such
as
we
did
with
solar
farms
when
we
started
getting
the
calls
for
solar
farms,
we
had
no
mention
of
solar
farms
anywhere
in
our
ordinance.
So
we
were
telling
people
you
can't
have
them
there
and
we
decided
well
that
that's
not
right.
We
probably
do
want
some
here,
so
we
changed
the
ordinance.
C
There
is
some
confusion
about
variances
variances
are
not
for
land
use.
Variances
are
for
the
bulk
regulations.
Reduction
in
lot
size
lot
with
setbacks,
building
height.
That's
that's
what
a
variance
is
for.
You
cannot
get
a
variance
to
have
a
commercial
establishment
in
the
residential
district.
That's
a
land-use!
So
the
appropriate
measure
there
would
be
to
rezone
to
a
commercial
district.
C
Cover
some
of
this
special
uses,
special
uses,
as
I
said,
our
uses
that,
while
they're
somewhat
compatible
the
area
such
as
a
church,
is
compatible
in
a
residential
district.
There
may
be
special
circumstances,
though,
or
amenities
to
that
church
that
might
make
it
not
compatible
some
accessory
uses,
such
as
a
lot
of
parking
loud
noise
traffic.
C
So
in
those
instances
we
put
those
in
the
special
use
category
which
allows
the
county
board
to
review
it
on
an
individual
basis
and
determine
if
it's
going
to
be
a
nuisance
or
not,
and
because
it's
special,
they
can
also
put
conditions
upon
the
special
use
permit
to
mitigate
those
nuisances.
If
they're
found.
E
C
And
it
also
regulates
other
things
besides
the
districts
and
other
items
that
might
be
allowed
in
all
districts,
such
as
accessory
structures,
you
can
have
a
shed
or
garage
in
every
district
we
have
but
they're
still
setbacks
and
other
requirements
that
need
to
be
met.
So
those
go
into
the
general
regulations
as
well
as
access
parking
signs,
and
we
do
have
a
section
for
non-conforming
use
of
lots
and
structures.
There's
a
go
back
to
the
state
statute
says
that
the
county
cannot
impose
regulations
on
a
lawfully
existing
structure.
C
We
cannot
make
it
come
up
to
code
until
or
unless
it
changes.
So,
if
they're
wanting
to
improve
that
structure,
we
can
make
them
bring
it
up
to
the
current
standards,
but
if
it
wants
that
they
wanted
to
leave
it
where
it's
at,
as
is
then
we
cannot
impose
our
current
standards
on
that
structure
or
property.
So
that's
the
legal
non-conforming
side
of
things
and
we
might
be
able
to
go
in
debt
more
in-depth
than
that
as
its
own
topic
later
on,
because
those
tend
to
is
where
we
tend
to
spend
most
of
our
time.
C
As
you
hear
zoning
cases,
there
are
several
different
types
of
Zoning
actions
that
this
committee
is
going
to
hear,
as
you
did,
that
you
seen
you
you
saw.
I
saw
two
of
them
this
morning,
text
amendments,
those
are
actual
changes
to
the
ordinance
itself,
map
amendments,
those
are
changes
to
the
map,
so
that
would
be
rezoning.
C
C
If
my
office
makes
a
decision
that
the
citizen
does
not
like,
they
can
always
appeal
it,
and
that
is
another
action
that
could
be
taken
by
actually
I.
Think
that's
the
Zoning
Board
is
where
the
appeals
are
taken,
and
so
that's
what
I
have
for
this
month
is
kind
of
a
general
overview
next
month.
I
would
like
to
actually
start
talking
about
the
specifics
of
our
ordinance.
G
Thank
you,
I
appreciate
the
presentation
and
I'm
more
familiar
with
your
stuff
than
with
the
young.
Ladies,
but
I
heard
you
mentioned
comprehensive
plan
and
that's
a
compilation
of
all
these
various
factors.
What's
your
recommendation
in
terms
of
how
often
should
a
comprehensive
plan
to
review-
and
when
was
the
last
time
that
our
comprehensive
plan
went
through
using
Kankakee
County's,
our.
E
C
E
C
Now
that
being
said,
there
was
not
a
lot
of
changes
because
of
the
economic
downturn
in
the
county
during
that
period
of
time.
So
it's
not
urgent
that
we
update
our
plan.
A
lot
of
the
stuff
in
there
is
still
valid,
because
not
a
lot
has
changed.
We
do
have
some
things
coming,
such
as
the
largest
industrial
pharmaceutical
expansions
in
the
world
happening
here.
That's
definitely
going
to
change
our
plan
so
the
next
few
years.
We
do
need
to
be
thinking
about
that,
but
it
has
a
price
tag
so.
I
Thank
You
mr.
chairman,
mr.
Kinsey
I,
think
that's
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
probably
hired
that
consultant
to
help
with
our
comprehensive
plan
going
forward
to
get
a
little
concrete
or
get
a
little
bit
of
security
going
forward
for
that
plan.
But
this
question
is
for
Delbert
Dell
you're
permitted
uses
for
the
zones.
How
often
are
they
evaluated
or
retweet
or
and
who
does
that.
C
There's
no
set
timeline
on
that.
Okay,
any
of
the
text
amendments
to
do
them
at
any
time.
Okay,
all
right,
it's
a
matter
of
having
staff
time
and
the
ability
to
do
it
and
the
need.
So
as
we
administer
the
zoning
ordinance
downstairs
when
we
run
into
things
that
don't
seem
right,
don't
seem
to
work
or
an
issue.
As
you
seen
with
the
solar
farm,
we
wrote
that
with
the
best
of
intentions
in
2017
thing-
and
this
is
what's
gonna-
happen-
doesn't
always
work,
so
you
always
have
to
tweak
it
a
little
bit.
C
One
I
found
yesterday
the
it's
in
conflict
with
state
statute
that
we
require
agricultural
uses
in
the
r-1
district
to
be
on
properties,
20,
acres
or
more.
But
if
you
go
to
the
state
statute
that
enables
us
to
zone
says
we
cannot
impose
any
regulations
on
agricultural
uses,
so
we
can't
limit
them
to
twenty
acres
and
that's
regardless
of
zone
regardless
of
what
district
three,
so
that
needs
to
be
changed.
Okay,
so
if
it's
unenforceable,
I,
don't
enforce
it
all
right,
regardless
of
what
it
says.
Thank
you,
sir
I.
C
Zoning
map
is
updated
every
year.
In
fact,
you
should
see
it
before
this
committee
in
March,
okay
and
is
adopted
every
year
just
just
to
be
safe.
Okay,
thank
you.
Any
any
changes.
Our
ordinance
technically
says
that
any
changes
that
you
that
the
county
board
approves
do
not
become
effective
until
they
are
changed
on
the
official
map.
I
cannot
change
the
official
map
every
month,
so
we
do
it
once
a
year.
A
Okay
and
any
bearing
in
more
questions
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
part.
Here
we
have
under
old
business.
We
have
anything
under
old
business,
says:
there's
nothing
written
yet
I'm
assuming
there's
none
in
under
new
business.
We
have
some
appointments
here.
We
have
four
appointments:
I
like
to
get
a
motion
to
combine
them
all
together
and
vote
on
them
all
at
one
time:
okay,
mr.
Washington,
mr.
A
suroz
all
papers,
say
aye,
aye,
okay,
what
we're
going
to
do
is
we
have
the
appointment
of
Ron
Kinzinger
to
the
economic
alliance
of
Kankakee
County
board,
and
we
have
appointment
of
Steve
Lehrer
to
economic
alliance
of
Kankakee
County
board,
appointment
of
Sam
Payton
to
economic
alliance
of
Kankakee
County
board,
an
appointment
of
andouille
Andrew
H
wheeler
to
the
economic
alliance
of
Kankakee
County
board.
Any
questions
on
those
appointments,
if
not
I,
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
them
all
in
one
get
a
vote
on
the
group
yeah
vote
on
the
group.