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Planning, Zoning & Agriculture Committee Meeting 2/20/2019 9:00 AM
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B
D
F
That's
fine
all
right,
Thank
You,
mr.
chairman,
for
the
invitation
to
speak
and
thank
you
for
the
members
of
pza
Committee
for
braving
the
the
wintry
weather
again
that
we
were
experiencing
today.
My
name
is
Chad
Miller
I'm,
the
manager
of
the
Kankakee
County
Farm
Bureau,
and
wanted
to
give
public
comment
in
support
of
the
Agri
tourism
zoning
ordinance.
The
farm
bureau
strongly
supports
the
concept
of
Agri
tourism
as
a
way
to
promote
and
market
agriculture
and
the
associated
agricultural
products.
F
The
Kankakee
Regional
Planning
Commission
of
which
I'm
a
member
along
with
the
County
Planning
Department
staff,
spent
a
considerable
amount
of
time.
Constructing
the
Agri
tourism
ordinance
draft
you
have
before
you.
We
feel
what
we've
put
together
is
solid
but
flexible
enough
to
allow
for
consideration
of
forward-thinking
concepts.
We
have
not
thought
of
yet
the
Farm
Bureau
encourage,
encourages
your
support
of
this
Agri
tourism
ordinance.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
D
We
think
that
this
is
a
really
unique
opportunity
for
market
our
history
to
visitors,
as
well
as
a
forward-thinking,
very
progressive
opportunity
for
us
to
stay
in
line
with
the
rest
of
the
nation
and
put
our
best
foot
forward
and
having
these
opportunities
to
partner
with
local
farmers
to
then
market
their
their
product
in
a
different
way.
So
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
sit
alongside
with
Dell
and
the
the
committee
to
make
this
happen,
and
we're
really
very
pleased
with
the
outcome.
D
C
G
Here
then,
right,
yes,
all
right
all
right
in
your
packet,
you
should
have
the
monthly
building
report
for
January
2019.
We
issued
15
total
permits
in
January,
which
is
1
new
home
in
that
and
brought
in
revenue
of
thirteen
thousand
six
hundred
and
thirty-eight
dollars.
That
seems
like
a
low
number,
but
compared
to
last
year
we
only
brought
in
seven
thousand
last
year,
so
we're
almost
double
that
January's
always
been
a
slow
month
for
us.
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C
G
C
G
Like
every
month,
our
MS
for
stormwater
program
requires
me
to
ask
the
committee
if
they
have
any
issues
that
they
would
like
to
discuss
or
bring
to
our
attention.
Last
month,
miss
Dunbar
did
bring
flooding
on
Chicago
Avenue
to
our
attention,
and
we
turned
all
of
that
over
to
the
city
of
Kankakee.
So.
A
This
we
mainly
started
doing
this
because
of
all
the
solar
farms,
and
it
just
reminded
me
that
do
we
need
to
continue
to
do
this
now
that
we're
not
having
all
these
solar
farm
applications
or
should
we
still
continue
it
as
a
good
procedure?
It's.
A
G
C
Okay,
going
on
to
zeebee
case
1901
request
for
a
tax
text,
amendment
to
County,
Code,
section
121,
99
and
121
100,
the
addition
of
Agri
tourism
regulations
to
the
a1
agricultural
district
and
a2
agricultural
district.
It's
just
agricultural
state
district.
The
petitioner
is
Kankakee.
County
can't
wait
to
be
switches
over.
G
Alright,
we
were
asked
about
almost
a
year
ago
by
the
County
Board
Chairman,
to
develop
an
ordinance
that
would
allow
Agri
tourism
uses
within
the
county's
jurisdiction.
The
request
was
in
response
to
the
fact
that
we
found
out.
There
were
several
well
at
least
a
few
operating
in
the
county
that
had
no
approvals
or
any
kind
of
guidance
or
regulations,
and
we
thought
it
would
be
best
to
create
an
ordinance
to
bring
them
into
compliance.
G
So
a
little
bit
of
background
agritourism
is
becoming
a
very
popular
way
for
farmers
to
promote
their
farms.
They
can
gain
a
little
additional
income
and
educate
the
public
on
farming
practice
practices
and
the
Midwest
Illinois
is
the
only
state
that
does
not
have
an
agritourism
statute,
so
we
had
no
state
statute
to
rely
on.
G
We
did
review
state
statutes
from
the
states
around
us
and
use
some
of
that
in
our
ordinance,
so
in
Illinois,
most
counties
use
their
zoning
powers
to
regulate
Agri
tourism
activities
and
during
our
discussions
we
came
up
with
the
purpose
and
intent
of
this
ordinances.
Kankakee
County
recognizes
that
the
county's
tourism
industry
is
interconnected
with
its
rural
economy,
by
allowing
for
tourism
uses
related
to
traditional
and
not
and
new
agricultural
uses,
the
county
will
further
advance
both
tourism
and
agriculture
within
the
county
for
the
betterment
of
all.
G
So
what
is
Agri
tourism
not
sure
how
familiar
people
are
with
with
the
term,
but
basically
it's
agriculture,
plus
tourism
equals
Agri
tourism.
Now
one
thing
it's
you
really
need
to
make
clear
is
that
this
ordinance
does
not
regulate
the
agricultural
side
of
that
equation.
That
is
already
regulated
by
state
statute
and,
in
most
cases
exempt
from
our
zoning
ordinance.
So
what
we're
looking
at
is
the
tourism
cycle
which
currently
our
ordinance
does
not
allow
for.
G
So
we
look
for
a
definition
of
Agri
tourism
and
I
got
to
say
there
is
no
standard
definition
for
it,
so
we
came
up
with
one
of
our
own
Agri.
Tourism
is
defined
as
any
non
agricultural
activity
which
attracts
the
public
to
an
agricultural
operation
for
promotion,
enjoyment,
education,
and/or
activity,
active
involvement
of
the
agricultural
operation.
That's
a
very
broad
definition
and
you'll
see
in
a
few
minutes
why
it
needs
to
be
that
broad.
G
One
requirement
that
did
stand
out
during
all
of
our
discussions
is
the
fact
that
agriculture
must
be
the
predominant
use
of
the
property,
and
the
tourism
aspect
must
be
appropriate
for
that
use
and
it
must
be
accessory
to
the
agricultural
use.
So
you
can't
just
do
the
tourism
you
have
to
have
the
agriculture
first.
G
So
what
maybe,
in
agriculture
and
tourism
use?
Well,
we
looked
at
that
too,
and
came
up
with
this
matrix
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
could
be
in
agriculture:
greater
ISM
use,
retail
sales
tastings
such
as
wineries,
micro,
breweries,
even
distilleries
recreational
uses
such
as
equestrian
shows
animal
shows
food
service,
anything
from
picnic
areas
where
you
bring
your
own
lunch
to
full-on
restaurants
and
banquet
halls
event,
Hosting's
for
weddings
parties,
corporate
events,
holiday
events,
education
and
participation
tours
hands-on
instruction
classrooms
demonstrations
there
could
even
be
a
lodging
component.
G
Bed-And-Breakfast
is
guest,
ranches
camping,
come
spend
a
week
on
the
farm,
that
sort
of
thing,
livestock,
interaction
and
amusements,
and
through
our
discussions
with
the
RPC,
we
didn't
want
to
limit
any
of
these
possibilities
at
least
not
right.
Now
we
want
to
leave
it
open
as
open
as
possible
to
foster
creativity
and
to
give
the
land
owners
the
most
opportunities
as
possible
for
them
to
promote
their
farms.
We
may
revisit
this
in
a
year
or
two
and
decide
that
some
of
this
just
didn't
work,
but
we
wrote
the
ordinance
to
include
all
of
this.
C
G
Some
of
these
activities
may
require
approvals
beyond
our
zoning,
such
as,
if
you're
going
to
have
alcohol,
you
need
a
liquor
license
if
you're
going
to
have
any
type
of
food
service
or
beverage
service
you're
going
to
need
a
license
from
the
Health
Department
campgrounds
are
licensed
by
the
Illinois
Department
of
Public
Health.
So
just
because
we
give
the
approval
is
not
the
last
approval.
There
are
other
approvals
that
may
be
needed,
depending
on
what
is
chosen
and
keep
in
mind
that
multiple
uses
could
occur
on
one
property.
G
You
could
have
amusements
you
with
a
campground.
You
could
certainly
have
foodservice
there
too,
and
you
could
even
have
a
recreational
component
or
an
educational
component,
so
the
operator
could
pick
and
choose
from
any
or
all
of
these.
So
what
did
we
consider
for
our
regulations?
Well,
that's
a
little
hard
to
read
as
I
just
discussed.
We
just
we.
We
consider
what
types
of
uses
we
would
allow
and
we
came
up
with
everything
that
was
on
that
matrix.
We
did
not
exclude
any
of
them.
We
looked
at
parking.
G
We
concluded
that
parking
will
be
permitted
on
the
same
parcel
as
the
activity
and,
unlike
the
rest
of
our
ordinance,
that
requires
paved
parking.
We
would
allow
grass
parking.
It
does
not
make
sense
to
force
a
rural
landowner
to
pay
five
ten
acres
of
their
property
for
a
for
an
Agri
tourism
use
it
takes
away
from
the
character
of
the
Agri
tourism
use
doesn't
mean
they
can't
pave
it,
but
we
will
not
require
them
to
pave
it
and
they
must
submit
a
parking
plan
with
their
application
for
review
signage.
G
We
assume
that
these
uses
are
going
to
want
to
advertise
themselves
in
some
fashion,
so
we
came
up
with
signage
regulations
and
we
permit
164
square
foot
per
side
sign
with
a
maximum
height
of
18
feet
for
each
property
they
are
digital,
signage
is
not
permitted,
but
illuminated
non
flashing.
Signage
is
permitted
and
but
must
be
turned
off,
except
for
one
hour
before
and
one
after
out.
G
We
looked
at
setbacks,
100
feet
from
a
property
line
and
roads
50
feet
from
side
and
rear
property
lines
that
the
use
occurs
in
an
enclosed
building.
The
50-foot
setback
may
be
reduced
to
20
feet
hours
of
operation.
We
went
with
7
a.m.
to
10
p.m.
for
non
lodging
uses
and,
of
course,
lodging
uses
can
be
24
hours
a
day,
but
must
observe
a
quiet
time
between
10:00
p.m.
and
7:00
a.m.
G
G
Must
meet
those
requirements,
coverage
limitations,
keeping
with
the
fact
that
the
agricultural
part
of
the
property
must
be
the
predominant
use.
We
determined
that
the
tourism
use
cannot
be
more
than
40%
of
the
gross
area
of
the
property,
excluding
parking.
We
did
not
think
that
parking
should
be
included
in
that.
G
Same
thing,
with
capacity
limits
like
lot
size
minimums,
we
determine
the
current
a
lot
size
minimums
for
the
a1
and
a2
district
were
adequate,
so
we
made
no
changes
there
and
if
you,
as
you
read
through
the
ordinance
you'll
see
that
we
we
state
many
times
over,
that
the
project
must
comply
with
all
other
laws
and
regulations
depending
on
the
situation.
So
that
was
what
we
looked
at.
The
RPC
met
for
probably
about
three
months.
G
Once
a
month
discussing
this,
we
had
some
great
discussions
a
couple
hours
long
in
most
cases
and
really
did
a
lot
of
work
quite
proud
of
the
effort
the
RPC
did
put
into
this.
So
our
approach,
we've
determined
that
it's
appropriate
in
the
a1
and
a2
districts.
Those
are
both
of
our
agricultural
districts
and
that
there
will
be
three
types
of
permits.
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B
A
Since
we're
asking
the
Russians
Thank
You,
you
said
a
DA
has
to
be
adhered
to.
Obviously,
is
there
any
what
about
parking?
Isn't
there
a
DA
requirements
for
parking?
Yes,.
G
A
Have
one
other
question
on
the
the
revocation
of
the
permit
part
of
it?
Well,
first
of
all,
has
the
state's
attorney's
office
seen
this
yet
gone
through
it?
Oh
yes
did
they
have
any
comment
about
7'v
the
decision
to
revoke
or
suspend
shall
be
at
the
sole
discretion
of
the
planning
director
or
his
designee.
G
A
G
A
G
G
G
A
G
C
H
G
C
G
B
G
G
H
A
Dea
issue,
one
more
time
anything
we
do
can't
trump
the
federal
law.
No,
we
can
that's
kind
of
where
why
I
want
to
clarify
that,
because
I
think
that
there
may
be
a
you
know
misconception
that
we
can
do
it
because
it's
just
such
an
accessory
use
once
you
have
that
you
have
to
have
those
I
mean
we're
talking.
Bathroom
accessibility,
well,
probably
doors
things
like
that
without
doors,
I
would
imagine
that
would
apply
correct.
G
G
A
So
the
committee
knows
Mike
Mike
wasn't
necessarily
instruction,
it
was
like
you
know:
hey
we
want
to
do
this.
We
won't
want
to
be
a
regulatory
body.
We
want
to
provide
opportunity
and
make
it
so
we
can
take
advantage
and
promote
this
in
our
area,
but
there's
a
couple
of
things
that
you
can't
and
probably
shouldn't
get
around.
That
was
one
of
them.
G
G
Right
so
we
came
up
with.
Not
only
are
there
a
multitude
of
uses,
there
are
various
times
and
durations
for
these
uses,
so
we
came
up
with
three
different
permitting
styles.
For
this,
a
temporary
permit,
which
is
a
one-time
permit
for
a
specific
event,
that's
no
more
than
ten
days
in
duration
and
those
permits
would
be
reviewed
and
approved
by
the
Planning
Department,
something
fairly
simple
and
easy
to
do.
G
That
would
be
for
somebody
who
knows
that
they're
going
to
be
doing
this
indefinitely
and
wants
to
make
major
improvements
to
their
property
to
accommodate
it.
The
permanent
permit
would
be
the
one
they'd
want
to
go
with
if
they
want
to
try
it
out
and
see
if
it's
it's
worth
their
while
temporary
permit.
G
G
That's
what
I
have
for
that
did
not
put
up
the
entire
ordinance
up
here
because,
like
I
said
it's
fairly
lengthy,
we
did
get
it
out
to
everyone.
I
believe
with
plenty
of
time
to
review
it.
So
there's
any
specific
questions.
Porta-Potties
may
meet
the
requirement
they
can.
We
left
that
up
to
the
discretion
of
the
health
department
and
their
codes.
So
we
envision
that
when
we
get
an
application
for
this,
because
there's
I
said
there's
a
lot
of
different
uses,
a
lot
of
intensities,
it
could
be
50
people
a
day.
G
It
could
be
5,000
I,
don't
know
that
once
we
have
the
application
and
on
an
individual
case-by-case
basis,
I
would
review
the
application
and
then
bring
every
one
of
the
table
that
needs
to
come.
It's
gonna
be
a
large
event
or
a
large
operation.
We
may
have
to
bring
the
sheriff
or
discuss
traffic
control
and
security
may
have
to
bring
the
Health
Department
in
Highway
department
or
Township
Road
authorities,
so
it
just
it's.
C
H
Like
to
thank
mr.
skin
Laverne
for
all
his
research
and
his
openness
on
these
ordinances,
that
we
have
it's
quite
intensive
and
he's
got
to
touch
all
his
bases
and
everything
a
lot
of
hard
work
planning
for
this
I
like
to
thank
for
that.
Okay,.
G
I
G
C
Unique
operations
that
occur
throughout
the
county
that
have
a
Latin,
flavor
and
sometimes
horse-racing,
is
involved.
Sometimes
it's
a
party
that
happens
on
a
certain
time
every
month
and
there's
bands
and
stuff
that
play
music
and
I
mean
is
that
follow
under
this
agritourism?
If
there's
irregularity
to
him,
yes,.
G
It
could
it
could.
This
is
not
intending
to
regulate.
Somebody
want
to
have
a
party
of
their
house.
If
you
want
to
have
a
wedding
in
your
backyard,
you
can
have
a
wedding
in
your
backyard.
If
you
want
to
open
up
your
backyard
to
a
wedding
venue
where
you're
having
a
wedding
every
weekend,
then
this
can
apply.
C
G
A
Potentially,
distinction
would
be
that
the
primary
use
is
not
agriculture
of
the
land.
Maybe
in
this
case
a
I,
don't
know
it's
not
what
your
what's
your
zoned,
as
is
what
the
use
is
right.
We
haven't
seen
tax
returns
to
see
if
animal
husbandry,
I
guess
would
be
the
primary
use
of
their
land
and
it
you
know
it
could
be.
You
know
bonus.
The
goal
was
to
provide
opportunity,
one
place,
that's
a
whole
other
situation
and.
G
G
C
G
Every
year
we
asked
the
county
board
to
readapt
our
zoning
map
to
keep
it
all
legal
and
proper
2018
was
quite
the
year
for
our
zoning
staff
and
our
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals.
We
had
56
zoning
cases
for
the
year,
which
is
the
most
largest
number
of
cases
we've
ever
had
and
comparison.
We
only
had
12
cases
in
2017
rezoning.
G
We
had
one
text
amendment
which
was
the
solar
farm
update
and
we
also
issued
15
farmstead
exemptions
a
little
bit
of
history
about
our
zoning
map,
first
adopted
in
1967
and
first
revised
in
1970
and
most
recently,
the
the
most
recent
major
update
to
the
zoning
ordinance
was
in
1996
following
the
90
1992
comprehensive
plan
to
make
it
better
fit.
With
that
plan,
beginning
in
2000,
we
have
been
asking
the
county
board
to
republish
and
re
adopt
the
map
every
year.
C
G
Mean
lavender,
whatever
you
call
it,
the
lightest
green
is
a
one
agriculture.
The
next
screen
up
is
a
to
agricultural
estate.
The
kind
of
olive
color
is
rural
estate,
yellow
is
residential
or
one
single-family.
The
tan
color
is
C.
Are
our
two
high-density
residential,
which
we
no
longer
have
any
in
the
county?
G
G
The
shaded
red
down
in
the
lower
corner
is
the
Kelly
Creek
wind
farm
and
the
shaded
blue
is
the
pilot
hill
wind
farm.
Their
special
use
permit
spoke
because
of
their
the
large
number
of
parcels.
We
identified
them
separately
a
little
hard
to
read
on
that
map,
but
there
is
a
star
for
special
use
permits
a
triangle
for
variances
and.
C
G
G
This
is
another
product
of
the
Regional
Planning
Commission's
efforts
for
about
the
last
eight
months.
The
Regional
Planning
Commission
has
been
reviewing
our
natural
hazards
mitigation
plan
for
its
current
update.
Our
last
update
was
in
2013.
We
did
send
it
out
to
everyone
digitally,
so
you
should
have
gotten
it
in
your
email.
Trying
to
save
some
paper
needs
to
be
updated
every
five
years
to
keep
us
current
with
FEMA
and
I
EEMA.
So
the
current
plan
was
adopted
in
August
on
August
13
2013,
and
the
original
plan
was
adopted,
October
11
2005.
G
We
formed
a
mitigation
task
force
to
help
the
regional
planning
commission
review
the
plan
and
that
included
members
from
aroma,
Park
Grant
Park
they're
listed
on
the
page
they're,
not
sure
why
it's
it's
all
messed
up,
I
think
we
got
a
different
software
package
here,
but
there
is
about
12
or
13
different
organizations
that
also
helped
out
and
form.
The
mitigation
task
force
plan
is
required
for
the
county
to
be
eligible
for
mitigation
funds
such
as
buyouts
disaster
recovery.
G
We
had
to
follow
a
very
rigid
process
that
is
outlined
by
FEMA.
It's
a
ten
step
process
and
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
them
here,
because
we're
gonna
go
through
each
one
individually
step.
One
was
to
organize,
so
we
formed
the
mitigation
task
force.
We
did
send
letters
out
to
all
the
municipalities,
all
the
townships,
the
ones
that
were
on
that
list
are
the
ones
that
responded
and
showed
up
to
the
meetings
and
my
office
provided
the
staff
for
the
update.
G
The
step
two
was
involved,
the
public.
We
created
a
website,
our
web
page
on
our
website,
for
it
created
a
Facebook
page
and
tried
to,
and
we
sent
out
some
surveys
through
those
and
got
about
56
responses
on
the
survey.
If
I
recall,
so
we
did
get
some
public
involvement
step.
Three
was
to
coordinate
with
agencies
and
organizations
which
we
did.
We
sent
the
executive
summary
out
to
all
the
adjoining
counties,
state
and
federal
agencies.
G
And
we
tried
to
get
involvement
everywhere.
We
could.
There
are
eight
natural
hazards
that
can
affect
Kent
key
County,
overbank
flooding,
local
drainage
problems,
tornados,
earthquakes,
winter
storms,
thunderstorms,
drought,
extreme
heat
and
wildfires.
All
eight
of
these
hazards
were
evaluated
and
any
events
that
have
occurred
since
2013
were
added
to
the
plan
and
we,
of
course
updated
all
the
graphs
and
maps
accordingly.
G
Step
five
was
to
evaluate
the
problem,
so
we
looked
at
each
of
those
eight
hazards.
We
inventoried
the
appropriate
categories
for
properties
that
might
be
affected
by
those
those
hazards
determine
the
exposure
possible
exposure
of
those
properties
that
costs
of
various
levels
of
damage.
If
it
was
a,
you
know,
light
medium
or
heavy
and
calculated
the
impact
based
on
that
exposure
that
could
and
the
probability
of
occurrence,
for
each
one
step.
Six
we
set
goals.
G
Their
homes
and
their
businesses
from
those
hazards
manage
future
development
to
minimize
the
potential
for
damage
from
natural
hazards
and
adverse
impacts
on
other
properties,
preserve
and
protect
the
rivers
and
floodplains
of
the
county.
By
considering
stricter
development
regulations
within
our
floodplain,
that
was
a
new
goal
for
this
plan.
I,
don't
believe
that
one
was
in
the
previous
plan
and
courage
and
work
with
FEMA
to
expand
the
study
of
our
flood
plains
in
the
unmapped
portions.
The
county.
G
The
everything
West
basically
of
limestone,
has
never
been
mapped
step,
7
review
mitigation
strategies,
so
we
looked
at
all
the
different
strategies
for
lessening
the
potential
of
damage
and
danger
from
these
hazards
and
updated
it
to
with
any
modern
information
that
we
found.
Wasn't
a
lot
of
update
this
time.
There
hasn't
been
a
lot
of
change
since
2013.
G
C
B
C
B
G
Would
affect
you
or
any
I,
don't
believe
any
okay,
one
of
the
things
that
areas
that
did
change
is
we've
done
a
fairly
decent
job
of
removing
properties
out
of
the
floodplain,
substantial
damage
properties,
I,
think
back
in
2013
there
was
39
that
were
substantially
damaged
and
now
we're
down
to
more
like
15
or
16.
That's.
C
G
Keep
getting
a
lot
of
questions
on
where
we're
at
with
solar
farms
and
their
approval
process,
so
I
went
to
the
Illinois
Power
agency's
website,
which
is
the
oversight
agency
for
that
program
and
pulled
off
this
graph.
They've
been
accepting
applications
since
January
January
30
for
solar
farms,
which
is
the
next
step
in
the
approval
process
to
date.
What's
in
the
red
square,
there
is
the
comment
territory,
which
is
the
territory
we're
in
for
the
community,
solar
Gardens
they've
received
400
applications
totaling
somewhere
around
800
megawatts
of
solar
farm.
G
The
state
statute
for
the
solar
farm
future
Energy's,
JOBS,
Act
states,
I
believe
they're
gonna
give
away
about
131
credits,
so
there
is
about
six
times
the
number
of
applications
and
they
have
credits
to
give
away.
I
do
not
have
an
update
as
to
when
they're
going
to
give
those
away
yet
sometime
by
the
end
of
the
month.
I
believe,
but
I
have
not
got
a
set
date
on
that.
So
I
just
wanted
to
tell
you
what
I
know.
G
G
A
I
guess
part
of
that
answer
was
the
utility-scale
ones.
I,
apparently,
are
the
larger
ones
that
sell
to
the
grid
with
a
buyer
who
happens
to
be
a
major
user,
a
factory
those
for
sure
are
viable
and
actually
most
of
those
don't
even
apply
for
the
credits
they're
growing
anyway,
but
so
the
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
knows
what
that
what
happens
after
the
lottery.
If
you
will,
because
again
some
new
members
they
made
the
public
needs
to
understand
that
that
doesn't
mean
it's
going
to
be
built.
G
Of
our
developers
were
to
get
their
site
approved
in
Kankakee
County
for
the
credits,
then
they
would
finalize
all
of
their
construction
plans
and
development
plans
and
submit
them
to
us
for
the
building
permits,
and
then
we
would
review
those
as
needed.
I,
don't
believe,
there's
any
other
approvals
from
the
state,
although
they
do
have
to
have
their
interconnect
agreement
with
ComEd,
but
I
believe
they
had
to
have
that
before
they
could
even
apply
yeah.
So
I'm.
A
G
Plans
will
be
reviewed
stormwater,
we
have
a
mg2
a
do
all
of
our
stormwater
review.
For
us,
it's
a
commercial
permit,
so
the
building
plans,
construction
plans
would
all
be
reviewed
by
Kesling
associates.
So
we
have
experts
that
are
actually
reviewing
all
of
these
and
they
have
to
meet
all
of
those
codes
and
requirements
or
mitigate
mitigate
those
issues
before
will
issue
a
building
permit.
So
yes,
there's
no
guarantee
that
just
because
they
get
the
credit
that
they'd
still
be
billed
Thank
You.
H
F
G
G
H
G
C
G
Concerns
as
long
as
they're
within
that
36
month
period,
it's
still
a
viable
project,
and
you
can
see
by
this
graph.
The
upper
part
of
it
is
the
Ameren
territory,
which
is
the
southern
portion
of
Illinois
there's
just
as
many
applications
there
for
the
same
amount
of
credits.
So
there's
definitely
developers
wanting
to
do
this
so
I.
It
would
not
surprise
me
if
the
state
increase
the
number
of
credits
available
if.
C
J
J
So
for
our
second
quarter,
which
was
October
1st
through
December
31st,
we
had
eleven
thousand
two
hundred
and
sixty-two
rides
that
we
gave
her
rural
transit
system,
and
that
was
about
a
17%
increase
over
the
same
time
period
last
year.
The
main
contributor
is
a
new
service
contract
that
show
bus
entered
into,
and
so,
as
a
result,
they
have
a
lot
more
trips,
comparing
the
different
types
of
service,
our
demand
response
or
dial-a-ride
service.
J
Where
somebody
calls
in
about
the
day
before
the
scheduled
trip,
we
saw
about
a
40
percent
increase
over
last
year
and
about
a
12
percent
increase
compared
to
last
quarter
and
then
for
our
moments
commuter
our
daeviated
fixed
route
we
saw
about.
It
decreased
a
little
bit
about
4
percent
compared
to
last
year,
but
it
went
up
slightly
over
last
quarter.
As
far
as
funding
for
the
program
we
have
received
our
executed
transit
agreements
from
I
dot.
J
We
got
those
in
December
and
we
have
been
receiving
payments
from
the
state
for
our
advance
as
an
Trek
with
requisitions,
which
is
nice
that
we're
not
being
delayed
any
longer
than
necessary
for
those
we
did
draw
down.
The
rest
of
our
federal
funds
for
second
quarter,
that's
perfectly
normal.
It's
common,
the
federal
funds
only
make
up
about
25%
of
the
grant
and
they
are
required
to
be
used.
First,
that's
what
I
had
for
updates.
If
anyone
has
any
questions,
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
try
and
answer
them
for
you.
B
B
J
Now
the
majority
of
funding
comes
from
state
and
federal
grants.
The
counties
of
local
portion
right
now
has
been
$15,000
I'm,
not
gonna,
say
don't
give
us
less.
If
you
want
to
give
us
more,
I
won't
say
no,
but
we've
been
doing
well
with
that
I
think
we've
been
okay
and
I
was
going
to
go,
we've
got
our
applications.
Is
that
we're
presenting
as
well
and
I
can
go
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
about
the
volkl
funding
sources
under
that
the.
B
J
A
Question
that
there
I
was
with
the
MPO
meeting,
because
we
that's
where
we
discuss
a
lot
of
these
countywide
transportation
issues
with
the
mayors,
their
representatives
I,
died.
There
was
some
confusion
on
the
meeting
date.
Do
you
do
you?
Is
that
upcoming
or
they
get
cancelled
and
move
because
some
of
the
people
couldn't
be
there
because
of
other
conflicts.
J
We
wanted
it
to
be
February
21st,
but
we
had
to
make
sure
that
we
met
our
public
participation
policy
of
public
notice
of
at
least
15
days,
and
we
weren't
going
to
be
able
to
make
that
that
was
the
day
that
members
said
they
would
most
likely
be
able
to
attend.
And
then,
in
order
to
make
the
public
notice
period,
we
were
basically
defaulted
to
the
27th
or
28th,
and
the
28th
head
is.
A
J
There
on
the
agendas
we
put
them
for
both
for
3
p.m.
because
the
policy
committee
typically
starts
shortly
after
the
technical
committee
adjourns,
but
the
typical
flow
for
approvals
is
the
policy
committee
should
be
approving
things
after
a
recommendation
from
the
Technical
Advisory
Committee,
okay,.
A
J
So,
every
year
we
have
to
go
through
the
process
of
applying
for
our
rural
transit
grants.
There
are
two
that
we
apply
for
we
apply
for
our
Federal
Transit
Administration,
fifty
a
section
53
11,
those
are
rural
transportation
funds.
The
application
I
apologize
I
wasn't
able
to
send
it
out
in
advance,
but
there
were
some
issues
with
the
forms
and
I
didn't
get
the
hard
copies.
Until
this
morning
the
official
versions
were
sent
out,
I
think
Thursday
last
week,
so
we've
had
only
a
few
days
to
really
put
them
together.
J
J
Fta
allows
up
to
one
hundred
and
sixty
six
thousand
six
hundred
ninety
eight
dollars
to
be
used
for
a
transit
program.
It
has
matched
by
state
funds.
It's
one
of
the
few
programs
that
were
able
to
do
that.
With
in
January,
we
sent
out
our
letters.
We
send
out
letters
to
transit
providers
in
the
area.
J
Show
bus
was
the
only
responder
they've
been
providing
transportation
service
in
the
county
since
1999,
as
I
mentioned
a
little
bit
in
the
previous
section,
our
types
of
service.
We
have
our
demand
response,
dial
ride
service,
where,
if
someone
wants
a
ride,
they
call
show
bus
and
the
scheduled
ride
and
there
is
$4
they
can
come
into
town
doctor's
appointments
grocery
shopping,
whatever
it
is,
they
want
to
do
show
bus
will
take
them
to
all
their
destinations
time
permitting
and
then
take
them
home
at
the
end
of
the
day.
J
So
that's
a
pretty
good
deal
for
only
$4
for
our
FY
2018
ridership,
the
dance
demand
response
service.
We
had
seventeen
thousand
seven
hundred
and
sixty
seven
rights.
The
other
service
that
we
offer
is
our
deviated
fixed
route,
which
is
often
called
our
moments,
commuter
that
provides
hourly
service
from
downtown
Kankakee
to
moments'
its
I
used
quite
a
bit
for
employee
trips.
The
fare
is
one
dollar
for
each
way
and
the
first
bus
leaves
Kankakee
at
4
a.m.
and
then
the
it
continues
on
the
hour
each
hour
through
5:00
p.m.
J
J
Sorry
I
lost
my
place
on
here
for
FY,
2017
or
another
to
be
18.
The
total
program
amount
was
about
six
hundred
thirty-eight
thousand
dollars
and,
as
I
mentioned,
the
federal
funding
portion
of
it
is
166
thousand
six
hundred
ninety
eight
and
then
the
state
portion,
the
funding
amount,
is
1
million.
One
hundred
sixty
two
thousand
six
hundred
twenty-eight
dollars.
That's
a
maximum.
That's
a
formula
fund
specified
by
state
law,
and
so
that
increases
ten
percent
every
year,
which
is
extremely
hard
to
keep
up
with
many
places.
J
Don't
we
only
spend
probably
maybe
close
to
half
that
amount
for
the
year
the
local
match.
So
we
have
our
federal
funds
which
which
gets
matched
with
state
funds.
The
state
funds
are
able
to
be
matched
with
our
federal
funds
and
then
to
make
up
for
the
gap
we
do
receive.
Some
donations
from
townships
in
the
county
show
bus
also
has
service
contracts
with
not-for-profit
social
service
agencies.
J
They
provide
some
level
of
transportation
with
them
and
then,
as
I
mentioned
previously,
Kankakee
County
has
also
been
supporting
the
program
by
budgeting
$15,000
each
year,
which
goes
toward
the
local
match
by
providing
local
match
from
the
county.
It
does
show
that
the
county
supports
the
program
and
there's
a
commitment
to
the
transit
program.
So
when
I
dot
goes
to
look
and
says,
okay,
how?
How
are
people
are
they
really
committed
to
the
project
or
are
they
just
using
their
state
funds
and
federal
funds
and
not
adding
anything?
J
C
J
C
J
Some
of
the
demand
response
falls
under
our
service
contracts,
and
so
those
are
negotiated
rates
with
the
social
social
service
agencies.
So
not
necessarily
everybody
is
paying
the
$4.
The
fares
themselves
are
not
eligible
is
match,
and
so
you
know
if
we
receive
$25,000
in
fares
that
comes
right
off
the
top
of
all
expenses
and
then
the
grants
and
the
funding
go
toward
remaining
down.
I
D
C
C
I
You,
mr.
chairman
yeah,
can
you
give
us
some
examples
of
the
service
contracts?
Who-Who.
You
have
service
contracts.
J
A
Clarifications
sake:
it
occurred
to
me
that
it
might
an
old
video
that
I'd
seen
popped
up
where
there
was
somebody
running
for
County
Board
and
they
were
writing
River,
Valley,
Metro
buses
and
talking
about
how
there
and
improve
the
services
I'm
at
bus
line.
Could
you
explain
how
the
difference
between
the
two
routes
and
who
they
serve
just
so
this
committee
knows
who
our
customer.
J
Sure
out
there
so
Metro
is
an
urban
transit
provider.
They
receive
formula
funding
from
FTA
and
I'd
odd
to
serve
the
urbanized
area,
which
is
a
census-designated
area
of
50,000
people
or
more
so
essentially,
that's
Kankakee
Bradley
bourbonnais
aroma
park
in
Manteno,
that
is,
their
coverage
area,
rural
transit.
We
receive
funds
for
exactly
that
is
for
transporting
people
in
the
rural
area,
so
one
leg
of
the
trip
must
start
outside
of
that
urban
area.
J
A
J
J
So
I
pretty
much
covered
that
with
the
last
one
I
kind
of
went
over
it
all
together,
but
it
is
a
separate
application.
The
funding
amount,
like
I
said,
is
one
million
one
hundred
sixty
two
thousand
six
hundred
twenty
eight
hours,
but
we
don't
even
come
close
to
that.
We
do
have
to
budget
for
it,
though,
because
it
is
the
grant
amount
except
we
spend
probably
about
half
of
that
throughout
the
year.
But
it's
for
the
same
program.
It's
just
another
funding
source,
any.