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Planning, Zoning & Agriculture Committee Meeting 3/22/2023 9:00am
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You
is
anyone
here
for
public
comment:
I
didn't
get
any
notifications
of
any
and
is
anyone
here
for
public
comment
back
there.
Okay
nobody's
there
so
we'll
skip
right
over
that
one.
Get
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes:
okay,
I'm!
Looking
at
some
here,
okay,
Mr
Miller
Mr
scaling
got
a
second
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
opposed
same
sign:
okay,
go
over
there;
okay,
okay!
Next
up
we're
going
to
do
the
building
report
for
February
for
223
still
what
you
got.
Ta
turn
on
number
three
now.
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Today,
that
will
always
be
on
the
agenda
for
discussion
purposes,
but
I
do
have
some
news.
Today
we
were
audited
by
the
EPA
iepa
for
this
program
and
other
than
a
few
minor
tweaks
to
our
program.
We
passed
inspection,
so
they
do
want
us
to
do.
They
want
us
to
inspect
for
suspended
solids
now,
which
consists
of
taking
a
water
sample,
letting
it
settle
out
and
then
describing
what
we
see
and
smell.
So
that's
the
major
addition
to
the
program
except
for
drinking
water
or
no.
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So,
rather
than
change,
our
zoning
ordinance
would
be,
which
would
be
in
conflict
with
the
state
statute
and
also
change
or
make
them
go
through
an
entire
special
use.
Permit
process
just
to
have
a
public
hearing.
We
came
up
with
adding
a
notice
of
intent
to
building
permit
applications,
whereas
if
the
project
has
a
capital,
investment
of
more
than
two
million
dollars
is
a
non-residential
or
non-agricultural
project,
and
it's
located
on
previously
undeveloped
property
consisting
of
15
Acres
or
more.
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They
would
be
required
by
certified
mail
to
notify
all
of
their
adjoining
property
owners.
The
township
supervisor
of
the
township
they're
in
and
any
municipalities
within
one
and
a
half
miles
of
the
site,
so
the
notices
would
still
occur.
People
would
still
be
aware
of
it.
Without
this
honestly,
the
trucks
would
be
probably
rolling
and
construction
would
be
started
before
most
neighbors
would
know
about
it.
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This
is
a
way
to
get
that
word
out
there.
On
top
of
this
once
they
give
us
that
notice
of
intent
and
they've
sent
it
out,
we
will
be
posting
it
on
the
counties.
Notify
me
part
of
the
website,
so
there'll
be
a
little
click
box
there,
I
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
see
those,
but
you
can
sign
up
for
notifications
from
the
county
on
their
website
and
you
get
to
click
on
what
you're
interested
in
we're
going
to
add
solar
and
wind
is
one
of
those
boxes
to
click
on.
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You
approved,
combine
and
approve
that's
okay,
we'll
go
okay!
Next
up,
we
have
I'm
gonna.
Do
this
one
the
way
they
just
said,
we
got
the
reappointment
of
Gregory
Olsen
David
Tyson,
oh
I,
gotta
read
what
they're
doing.
Thank
you,
County
Board
of
examiners
and
appeals,
the
reappointment
of
David
Tyson,
the
Kankakee
County
examiners
and
appeals,
reappointment
of
Jeff
Jarvis
to
the
County
Board
of
examiners,
and
appeals,
reappointment
of
William
Warburton
to
Kankakee
County
examiners
and
appeals,
reappointment
of
Bob
Bedell
to
Kankakee,
County,
Board
of
examiners
and
appeal.
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Okay,
okay,
Dell.
Next
up,
we
got
a
couple
zoning
cases.
Today
we
have
a
zba
case:
zero
two
three-03
request
for
rezoning
from
A1
agricultural
District
to
C2
General
commercial
district
and
a
C2
commercial
General
District
to
an
A1
agricultural
District
on
partials,
generally
situated
in
zero,
two
of
Otto
Township.
The
petitioners
are
shavants
AG,
Incorporated,
Schaefer,
Farms,
Incorporated
and
property
owners
are
Scott,
Schaefer,
applicant,
okay,
okay,.
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Since
that
time,
a
20-acre
parcel
or
yeah
20,
acre
parcel,
as
you
can
see,
was
divided
out
of
the
lower
corner
there,
which
division
of
a
parcel
does
not
change
the
zoning,
and
so
what
we
have
now
is
a
60
acre
and
a
20
acre
parcel
that
are
each
dually,
zoned,
partially
commercial,
partially
AG.
The
entire
facility
is
on
the
20,
acre
parcel
and
they'd
like
to
expand
into
that
farther
back
area
of
the
parcel.
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Next
up
we
have
zba
case
23-02
request
for
a
text
Amendment
to
the
county
code,
section
121-3,
121-99,
121-4146,
120-121-208,
121-209,
120,
West,
1-295,
121-297,
renewable
energy
facilities,
the
petitioners
Kankakee
County.
We
got
this
one.
This
is
all
the
X
out
stuff.
You
have
in
your
book
here
so
yeah.
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Everything
in
green
is
being
added.
Everything
in
red,
strikeout
is
being
removed,
which
is
basically
our
entire
current
ordinance
being
removed.
I
didn't
feel
the
need
to
put
that
all
up
on
the
screen,
so
I
only
have
the
green
stuff
on
the
screen,
so
we'll
go
through
some
of
the
changes.
The
first
part
here
is
just
rules
and
definitions
needed
to
find
the
various
terms
used
within
this
part
of
the
ordinance
and
every
one
of
these
mirrors
exactly
what
the
new
public
Acts
says
as
well.
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Till
the
end,
okay,
any
questions
on
definitions,
there's
a
couple
of
pages
of
definitions
there.
This
just
defines
the
different
terms
used
in
the
ordinance:
okay,
okay,
all
right-
and
we
move
up
to
this
page
here
and
in
our
previous
ordinance.
They
were
special
use
permits
in
the
agricultural
District.
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Only
we've
moved
them
into
permitted
uses.
We
must
permit
them
anywhere.
We
permit
agriculture,
agricultural
use
or
industrial
use,
so
they
became
permitted
uses
in
the
A1
District
in
the
i1
and
I2
industrial
districts,
and
unfortunately,
we
also
have
to
have
them
in
the
single
family,
residential
district
on
Parcels,
20,
acres
or
more
because
we
allow
agriculture
on
Parcels
of
20
acres
or
more
in
that
District
okay.
So
this
sets
up
the
districts
in
which
they're
allowed
in
and
they
are
permitted
use,
is
not
special
uses.
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Okay,
okay,
moving
on
there's
I2.
So
then
we
go
into
the
to
the
real
bones
of
it.
This
is
the
requirements
for
the
siding
of
a
commercial
wind
energy
facility
and
again
the
statute
says
that
we
cannot
be
any
more
restrictive
than
the
statute
and
it
lays
out
what
can
and
cannot
be
required.
So
we
mirrored
that
exactly
they
must
have
an.
They
must
have
an
executed
agricultural
impact
mitigation
agreement
with
the
Illinois
Department
of
Agriculture.
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As
far
as
height
goes,
we
used
to
have
a
699
foot
maximum
height.
Now
the
height
of
Any,
Given
Tower
will
be
determined
by
a
letter
from
the
Federal
Aviation
Administration
for
determination
of
no
Hazard
to
air
navigation.
So
we
have
no
way
of
knowing
how
high
a
tower
will
be
until
they've.
Given
us
that
letter,
it
could
be
300
feet
could
be
900.
Feet
just
depends
on
what
that
letter
comes
out
to
okay.
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Going
to
want
to
do
it,
that's
how
they
handled
height
on
wind
towers.
They
must
provide
us
with
a
industry
standard
computer
computer
modeling
program
that
the
results
show
that
no
non-participating
or
Community
Building
will
experience
more
than
30
hours
per
year
of
Shadow
flicker.
So
they
have
to
provide
us
with
that
report.
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They
have
to
provide
us
with
a
report
that
indicates
the
project
is
in
compliance
with
sound
limitations
established
by
the
Illinois
Pollution
Control,
Board
I,
don't
know
what
those
standards
are
yet,
but
they'll
have
to
give
us
a
report
on
that.
A
decommissioning
plan
and
surety
bond.
The
difference
here
between
this
and
our
our
previous
ordinance
is
that
it
must
mirror
The,
Amos
agricultural
impact
mitigation
agreements,
decommissioning
plan
and
bond,
not
the
rules
we
had
before
I.
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Sounds
like
you
can
probably
need
a
minimum
of
about
40
acres,
40
30
to
40
acres,
to
put
up
on
put
up
one:
okay,
okay,
thank
you
yeah!
So
anyway,
getting
back
to
the
bond.
One
of
the
big
differences
here
is
that
they
removed
our
ability
to
exclude
Recycling
and
a
salvage
value.
Currently,
the
bonds
you
just
approved
include
salvage
value.
So,
even
if
it
you
know
no
matter
what
the
number
is
to
decommission
that
that
project,
they
don't
get
to
give
us
a
bond,
subtracting
out
the
salvage
value.
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Under
this
scenario,
they
do
and
that's
written
into
the
state
statute,
so
the
bonds
are
going
to
get
a
lot
less
and
the
frequency
of
updating
the
bond
is
also
going
to
extend
out
farther
I
have
not
researched
the
entire
AMA
at
this
point,
but
we
require
the
full
amount
up
front
day,
one
under
the
AMA.
It's
a
progressive
period
where
you
only
need
to
give
20
like
for
the
first
three
years,
then
40
percent-
you
don't
really
get
to
the
full
maximum
value
with
the
bond
until
about
year,
15.,
so
less
guaranteed.
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Okay,
so
that's
that's.
A
big
change
for
us
is
the
decommissioning
plans,
but
the
statute
clearly
describes
what
we
can
and
can't
do
there.
It
says
we
can
require
a
bond
and
we
can
require
decommissioning
plan,
but
can
be
no
more
restrictive
than
the
states,
the
one
they
have
with
the
state.
So
we
said,
give
us
the
same
thing
you're,
giving
the
state
they
need
to
show
us
the
results
of
a
U.S,
Fish
and
Wildlife
information
for
planning
and
Consulting
environmental
review
for
land-based
wind
energy
guidelines.
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1.1
from
the
nearest
point
on
the
property
line
of
any
non-participating
residence,
they
have
a
zero
setback
from
any
participating
property
line.
So
if
you
have
two
properties
that
are
both
participating
and
both
have
we'll
have
Towers
on
them,
then
there
would
be
no
setback
between
those
two
properties
2.1
times
the
height
from
the
outside
wall
of
any
non-participating
residents.
So,
under
that
same
600
foot
scenario,
it'd
be
a
1320
foot
setback,
6612,
yeah
1320.
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same
for
nearest
point
on
property
line
of
any
fish
and
wildlife
area,
natural
Preserve,
commission,
protected
or
protected
lands,
and
these
are
all
straight
out
of
the
statue.
It's
all
cut
and
paste
1.1
times
the
height
from
any
overhead
communication
or
electronic
transmission
lines,
but
not
lines
that
are
feeding
a
property.
So
these
would
be
your
transmission
lines,
not
not
a
drop
line
that
goes
up.
Somebody's
driveway
to
their
house
2.1
times
from
the
outside
wall
of
any
occupied,
Community
Building.
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To
the
center
point
of
the
right-of-way
and
zero
setback
from
overhead
utility
service
lines
to
individual
houses
or
outbuilding,
so
any
any
drop
lines
to
your
house
Farm
or
buildings,
there
would
be
a
zero
set
back
to
those
under
height
again.
It's
the
determination
of
no
Hazard
to
error.
Navigation
will
determine
the
height
okay.
Now
we
go
to
the
solar
side
of
things,
which
is
almost
identical
with
a
few
slight
differences.
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Let's
do
that
here
they
still
need
the
agricultural
impact
mitigation
agreement
still
need
the
compliance
for
sound
limitations
with
the
Illinois
Pollution,
Control,
Board,
decommissioning,
plant
and
bond
are
the
same
as
the
Aima
just
like
with
the
wind.
The
U.S,
Fish
and
Wildlife
Services
report
is
the
same.
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These
are
all
a
little
different
150
feet
from
the
nearest
point
on
the
outside
wall
of
a
structure
of
an
occupied,
Community,
Building
or
dwelling
on
a
non-participating
property.
So
that's
new
ours
was
from
property
lines,
commercials,
solar
facilities,
zero
setback
from
property
lines
of
participating
property.
So
if
you
have
two
of
them
next
to
each
other,
they
can
each
build
right
up
to
their
property
line.
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50-Foot
setback
from
the
nearest
edge
of
a
public
right-of-way
and
a
50-foot
setback
from
the
nearest
point
on
a
non-participating
property
line.
Ours
were
a
hundred
on
both
right-of-ways
and
on
non-participating
property
lines,
height,
fencing
and
screening.
Okay,
it's
already
up
there,
so
they
limit
them
to
20
feet
in
height
to
the
highest
point
on
the
array
at
Full
Tilt
we
had
30.
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the
perimeter
of
all
commercial
solar
energy
facility
shall
be
enclosed
by
offense
of
at
least
six
feet
in
height,
but
no
more
than
25
feet
in
height
I'm,
not
sure
why
the
25
foot
is
there,
but
it
was
in
the
statute.
That's
a
very
tall
fence.
It
does
not
define
what
type
offense
it
can
be
just
that
it
has
to
be
at
least
six
feet
tall.
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To
some
extent,
the
board,
as
well
yeah
yeah
to
a
lot
of
extent,
I
think
how
they,
how
they
determine
that
scrap
value,
at
least
what
we've
seen
is
they
they
take.
What
scrap
value
prices
have
been
for
the
last
20
years
and
extrapolate
them
out
for
the
next
20
years,
and
you
know
how
volatile
that
can
be.
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So
it's
really
just
a
wild
guess,
maybe
an
educated
guess
at
best.
Okay.
The
last
item
here
is
a
little
more
in-depth
on
vegetative
screening
so,
but
we
also
require,
if
it's
within
the
vegetative
screening
within
100
feet
of
a
public
right-of-way
or
a
residential
property.
So
if
there's
a
house
next
door,
you
must
do
the
the
this
tells
you
where
you
must
do
it.
The
vegetative
screening
she'll
be
of
a
height
size
and
density
to
adequately
screen
the
facility
from
the
view
of
public
rights
away
and
Residential
Properties.
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I
did
not
check
today,
but
the
last
time
I
checked
I
have
not
seen
any
language
whatsoever
being
changed,
being
changed.
Okay,
thank
you.
One
thing
I
should
probably
mention
that
is
not
in
our
ordinance
because
it
doesn't
really
because
we
can't
do
anything
about
it
is
what
they
did
to
drainage
districts
and
basically
the
statute
says
that
they
can
cross
any
tile
or
line
owned
by
a
drainage
District
without
prior
approval
and
as
long
as
they
fix
any
damage
once
construction
is
done.
They're,
okay,
within
a
reasonable
time
of
the
completion
of
construction.
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H
This
group
to
be
aware
of
that,
so
that
bill
actually
ties
to
high
impact
business
and
essentially
what
it
says,
is
any
business
applying
for
a
high
impact
business
designation,
which
is
what
these
solar
wind
producers
utilize
to
get
their
their
incentives
from
the
state
of
Illinois.
They
have
to
be
approved
by
either
the
municipality
of
which
they're
within
or
the
county,
if
there's
no
municipality
applying.
So
it's
not
necessarily
fixing
some
of
the
concerns
from
that
that
Mr
Miller
addressed,
but
it
is
allowing
some
potential
Authority.
H
So
that's
another
angle
at
which
some
of
our
General
General
Assembly
members
are
looking
to
address
this,
so
there
might
be
some
ability
to
to
combine
kind
of
these
efforts
and
and
Talk
Amongst
the
general
assembly.
So
as
we
do
kind
of
our
legislative
approach
to
this,
potentially
we
have
Partners
who've
introduced,
not
necessarily
A
bill.
That
you
would
say
applies
to.
You
know
solar,
wind
energy,
but
it
does
apply
to
this
scenario
and
I
believe
when
Senator
Stoller
pitched
this
bill.
It
was
in
direct
response
to
this.
A
F
You
Mr
chairman,
just
really
briefly:
HB
3146
went
to
rules
committee
on
the
10th
and
there's
been
no
other
movement
on
it
and
the
witness
slips
are
for
for
this
bill
and
106
against
it.
But
you
can't
go
ahead
and
fill
out
a
witness
slip
right
now.
So
if
staff
could
go
ahead
and
keep
on
that
and
let
board
members
know
if
it's
something
that
you'd
endorse
I
would
gladly
go
ahead
and
sign
as
a
witness,
for
it
sure
will
do.
D
C
H
H
Think
from
a
a
paperwork
standpoint
from
a
paper
trail
standpoint.
It
would
be
really
in
our
best
interest
to
have
approval
from
this
committee
and
then
subsequently
the
full
board
for
chairman
wheeler
to
execute
documents
on
behalf
of
these
these
programs.
So
we
we
put
in
your
packet
a
sample
of
the
resolution,
that's
signed
by
both
part
30s.
These
are
against
small
towns.
H
You
know,
Kankakee
Park
District
got
some
money:
Bradley
Bourbonnais
Union,
Hill
Reddick,
some
some
of
the
fire
protection
districts.
We
just
really
want
the
ability,
as
these
come
through
the
Senator's
office,
for
these
line
item
Appropriations,
that
we
can
properly
track
the
paperwork
and
make
sure
that
the
the
chairman
has
that
authority
to
execute
and
so
I'm
kind
of
requesting
an
Omnibus
approval
here
for
this
program
where
we
would
manage
all
of
those.
H
Obviously
you
know
Finance
would
make
sure
that
you
know
our
data
certification
all
of
our
paperworks
in
order
for
us
to
maintain
that
we
would
then
get
Grant
agreements
on
behalf
of
these
jurisdictions
from
Commerce.
That
would
say
we
have
to
follow
these
certain
rules
and
we
would
make
sure
all
those
rules
are
followed
before
any
dollars
were
expended
on
these
projects,
but
I
think
it's
just
best
for
us
to
have
this
documentation
through
the
board
before
the
Chairman's
executing
these
agreements.
Okay,.
C
A
C
E
Yeah,
it's
thank
you
for
that.
Mr
Fairfield
Fairfield,
the
the
the
senator
basically
a
lot
of
these
Appropriations
that
are
coming
down
to
us
since
the
the
these
communities
like
Buckingham
and
Union,
Hill
and
Reddick.
Don't
have
the
infrastructure
to
be
able
to
manage
these,
and
so,
as
I
told
as
long
as
it
doesn't
require
us
to
do
a
whole
bunch
of
work
we
can
handle
it.
We're
requiring
these
municipalities
to
ride
up
and
complete
the
paperwork,
and
Ben
can
speak
to
that.
E
H
So
yeah
we've
got
kind
of
a
traveling
Road
show
right
now.
Michelle
and
I
downstairs
have
been
going
out
to
the
communities
and
saying:
okay
tell
us
what
you
want.
We
convey
that
to
the
state
of
Illinois,
then
to
get
the
approval,
then
we
make
them
go
through
the
effort
of
putting
the
narrative
language
together.
So
we
can
finalize
the
paperwork.
I
will
say
this
when
I
say
that
we're
going
to
be
executing
this
what's
really
nice
is
we
do
a
lot
of
these
so
non-disclosure
certification,
mandatory
disclosure,
certification,
state
of
Illinois,
standard
application?
H
All
of
these
things
are
applications
that
many
people
within
our
organization
are
regularly
working
with
and
so
we're
used
to
going
through
the
process.
We
have
the
the
paperwork.
On
our
end.
We
know
all
of
our
information,
so
we're
just
duplicating
a
lot
of
paperwork
on
that
front
end.
So
it
looks
like
the
county
of
Kankakee
is
applying
for
13
separate
grants
and
then
we'll
have
what
the
project
name
is
and
what
the
specifics
is
from
those
communities
as
to
what
they
want
and
then
the
state
will
approve
it.
H
So
it's
I,
don't
want
to
say
it's
a
lot
of
rubber
stamping,
but
it
is
a
lot
of
repetitive
paperwork
that
we're
used
to
doing
so.
It's
not
as
cumbersome
as
writing,
12
individual
grants
or
13
individual
grants,
but
it
is
going
to
be
a
lot
of
tracking
RN
and
we'll
make
sure
it's
done
right
and
appropriate.
But
it's
just
something
that
we
believe,
as
you
know
us
as
a
Fiscal
Agent
for
some
of
these
smaller
towns
really
makes
sense,
because
otherwise
I'm
not
certain
how
they
would
get
their
money.
E
H
Will
be
paying
this
as
part
of
our
warrant
process,
so
that
I
mean
there
will
cause
there
will
be
money
transferred
from
the
the
essentially.
What
will
happen
is
the
jurisdictions
will
make
the
expenditures
on
the
project.
We
will
report
that
to
the
Department
of
Commerce.
They
will
then
issue
through
the
Comptroller's
office
a.
H
Us,
and
so
it's
like
the
kind
of
the
triple
check
on
we
send
all
the
paperwork
in
saying:
hey:
can
we
have
our
money
back,
but
it's
not
our
money
that
went
into
it
and
then
we'll
receive
the
check
and
then,
as
part
of
the
monthly
payments
that
we
make,
that
will
be
approved
through
finance
and
then
through
the
County
board.
So
so.
H
H
Obviously,
or
else
Commerce
is
the
approving
entity
on
that
one,
because
they're
so
there's
the
town
is
spending
their
money,
we're
asking
the
Department
of
Commerce
for
a
reimbursement
of
that
they
approve
that
reimbursement,
essentially
so
by
us,
receiving
the
funds
from
the
Comptroller's
office.
There's
an
inherent
approval
there.
We're
just
then
authorizing
the
check
to
be
cut
to
to
reimburse
for
this
effort.
H
Do
it
in
in
tranches,
if
they,
if
they're
so
inclined
where
they
could
start
the
work
and
maybe
have
a
pay
request
and
then
do
the
requests
for
funds?
There
is
a
little
bit
of
opportunity
to
do
pay.
Capital
advances.
I
would
really
prefer
to
avoid
that
I
can
tell
you
one
thing
and
Andy,
and
all
of
you
will
Echo
this
we're
not
going
to
be
spending
our
money
to
to
forward
these
projects
and
then
wait
for
the
state
money
back.
H
We're
willing
to
do
that
for
County
projects
for
County
benefit
in
some
instances
where
you
may
approve
us
to
do
that,
but
we're
not
going
to
be
making
expenditures
on
behalf
of
a
town.
Okay,
as
a
county
we
will
either
they
will,
will
get
the
projects
done
and
then
request
it
or
or
they
just
maybe
we'll
have
to
forego
the
opportunity.
I
will
say
this,
though,
and
I
just
I
want
you
to
know
this
as
we're
going
out
and
doing
this.
H
This
is
a
thing
that
we're
willing
to
do
for
for
the
senator,
and
we
think
it's
really.
You
know
it's
it's
a
good
partnership
that
the
county
can
offer
we're
trying
to
find
projects
that
the
communities
either
already
have
going
or
we're
planning
on
doing.
We
don't
want.
You
know
just
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
be
spent
on
something
because
it's
like
hey
the
money
came
in
we're
really,
and
we
really
don't
want
it
to
be
where
they
have
to
spend
another.
H
We
met
with
the
mayor,
and
you
know
he
said:
we've
got
a
couple
things
going.
We
can
just
kind
of
plug
it
into
the
phase
two
anyway,
so
it
really
makes
sense
where
they're
not
going
out
and
designing
a
new
project
to
do
this
they're
already
just
using
it
to
to
further
their
budgets
this
year
or
potentially
next
year,.
A
H
A
grand
agreement
is
still
a
very
timely
process
in
the
state
of
Illinois,
I
will
say:
they'll
pay
requisitions
in
you
know,
through
the
Comptroller's
office,
have
been
very
timely.
Okay
I
mean
because
we
do.
We
do
a
lot
of
them
for
for
Transit
and
for
for
other
things,
and-
and
we
see
our
money
relatively
quickly,
so
the
biggest
thing
will
be
waiting
till
the
end
of
the
quarter.
H
To
do
your
quarterly
report,
then
making
your
request
and-
and
it
also
I
mean
I-
tell
a
lot
of
entities
this.
If
you
don't
give
us
what
we
need
when
we're
filling
out
their
paperwork,
it
takes
a
lot
longer
it
just
it's.
If
you
don't
have
exactly
the
right
documentation
in
front
of
us
and
and
maybe
your
your
bills
aren't
paid
and
then
sometimes
Commerce
comes
back
with
you
know.
We
need
to
cancel
check
on
this,
or
so
they
ask
for
additional
information,
but
all
of
that
is
is
relatively
timely.
H
I
still
we're
in
a
little
bit
of
an
odd,
like
work
from
home,
coveted
lag
as
it
relates
to
the
state
of
Illinois.
There's
a
lot
of
two
and
three
day
a
week
in
the
office
employees
right
now,
Department
of
Commerce
is
actually
the
500
East
Monroe
building
has
been
declared
uninhabitable,
so
they
had
to
kick
everybody
out
in
downtown
Springfield,
so
they're
kind
of
finding
housing
all
throughout
the
and
they
don't
have
their
records.
And
so
there's
a
there's
a
lot
of
hurdles
to
this,
but
we
work
through
them.
H
I
A
G
One
sure
thank
you
Mr
chairman,
so
this
is
resolution
in
support
of
Illinois
and
Kankakee
County
Agriculture,
like
a
lot
of
resolutions,
there's
a
whole
list
of
whereases,
but
mainly
all
the
whereases
include,
highlights
and
facts
and
figures
about
the
importance
of
our
agriculture
community
in
your
pza
packet.
It's
a
PDF,
page
116.,
if
you're
scrolling
down
to
it,
but
that's
mainly
it.
If
you
have
any
questions.
Let
me
know.
A
B
A
A
A
D
Go
ahead,
don't
let
me
open
it
up.
First,
though,
okay,
the
gis
department
and
our
GIS
program,
with
the
help
of
our
GIS
committee,
has
determined
that
bathymetry
and
hydrographic
Analysis
of
the
Kankakee
and
Iroquois
Rivers
would
be
the
next
project
that
we
would
be
be
taking
on.
With
our
GIS
fund,
we
sent
out
an
RFP
RFQ
for
proposals.
We
had
three
companies
that
firms
that
set
intents
to
respond,
but
only
one
which
is
Prairie
Engineers
actually
sent
in
a
proposal.
The
gis
committee
met.
A
A
J
J
This
shows
a
distribution
of
our
staff,
the
distribution
of
Engineers,
licensed
professionals
by
discipline
and
by
gender.
The
blue
states
are
where
we're
licensed
to
perform
engineering
and
surveying
on
the
two
different
Maps,
a
little
workflow
org
chart
for
the
by
the
metric
survey.
Project
I
will
service
the
quality
manager
on
the
project.
Mr
forgey,
our
senior
VP
will
be
the
Principal
in
charge
in
the
lead
surveyor
we
provided
staff
resumes
so
JS
Department
can
provide
those
to
you.
J
If
you
have
an
interest
in
more
detail
on
staff
involved
with
the
project
and
here's
a
look
at
the
equipment,
we
have
a
variety
of
boats,
enclosed
cabin
all
weather
vessels,
open
hole,
vessels,
small
surface,
remote,
controlled
vessels,
there's
a
variety
of
different
water
conditions.
As
the
river
flows,
you
know
through
the
county,
so
we
we
have
the
capabilities
and
the
equipment
for
deep
water,
shallow
water
and
everything
in
between
basic
fundamentals
of
how
it
works.
We
have
a
boat
in
the
water
emitting
sonar.
J
J
There's
a
look
at
one
of
our
larger
boats
with
the
sonar
head
over
the
side
and
the
technician
they're
installing
it
and
here's
one
of
the
medium
size
vessels,
and
then
we
have
the
jet
drive
the
boat
on
the
top.
That's
like
a
big
jet
ski,
so
no
propeller
has
jet
drive,
so
we
can
get
in
very
shallow
water
with
it
and
you
can
see
it
doing
a
landing
on
an
island
in
the
bottom
picture
and
there's
the
remote
controlled
vessel.
J
So
when
we
get
in
a
situation
where
either
unsafe
navigation
or
no
boat
ramps,
no
Logistics
to
launch
a
boat,
we
can
manually
launch
that
little
surface
remote,
controlled
boat
and
collect
the
sonar
data
and
when
all
else
fails
we
put
on
the
waders
and
get
in
the
water.
You
know
we
don't
plan
on
having
to
do
that
on
your
project.
J
What
this
is
all
for.
You've
got
two
primary
questions:
you're
trying
to
answer
what
is
the
depth
to
the
of
the
river
and
then
what
is
the
depth
of
the
sediment?
You
know
at
the
bottom
of
the
river.
So
in
this
slide,
I'll
go
back
one.
You
know
the
deliverable.
What
the
gis
department
has
asked
for
and
what
they'll
receive
is
a
Concord
map
of
the
river
bottom
color
coded
by
elevation.
So
blue
is
deep.
J
Water
green
is,
you
know,
shallower
water
red
is
unnabbigable
or
you
know
very
shallow
between
and
then
that
estimation
of
the
amount
of
material.
So
how
much
soft
unconsolidated
material
you
know
is
sitting
on
the
bottom
of
the
river
that
could
be
posing.
You
know
a
hazard
to
navigation
or
increase
in
creating
increasing
blood
risk.
You
know.
J
There
are
two
methodologies
that
the
gis
Department
requested,
single
beam
or
multi-beam
in
this
little
diagram
is
trying
to
explain
the
difference.
Multi-Beam
is
a
wide
swath.
Collecting
many
pulses
underneath
the
boat
in
single
beam,
as
you
can
see
on
the
slide,
is,
is
a
narrower.
You
know.
Single
emission
multi-beam
is
really
effective
in
deep
water.
It's
very
efficient
in
deep
water,
but
it
loses
its
efficiency
in
shallow
water.
J
Our
recommended
workflow
we're
going
to
collect
you
know
the
center
of
the
river
What's
called
the
Fall
lag,
we're
going
to
run
cross
sections
from
bank
to
bank
process
the
data
and
then
the
sequence
of
the
work.
We
would
work
to
break
it
into
three
projects
and
East
a
West
in
the
South
reach
of
the
river.
J
I
did
project
Recon
last
month,
when
we
were
here
initial
Recon
you're,
seeing
in
the
top
left,
that's
the
state
line
bridge
over
at
Indiana
and
then
the
the
Restriction
the
low
flow
overflow
there
at
moments.
A
variety
of
boat,
docks
already
deployed
in
the
river
between
here
and
there,
and
then
you've
got
your
large
Dam
here
in
town
with
a
hydro
plant,
the
boat
ramp,
Aroma,
Park
and
then
the
state
park.
J
J
So
the
map
you
see
here
showing
the
Confluence
of
the
Iroquois
and
the
Kankakee
is
where
we
propose
to
do
the
pilot
project
for
the
pilot
project,
we'll
launch
the
boats
and
collect
both
the
multi-beam
and
the
single
beam
data
turn
that
data
over
to
the
gis
department
for
their
analysis.
So
they
can
make
a
decision
on
whether
which
data
set
is
most
beneficial
and
cost
effective.
There's
a
difference
in
the
pricing
of
those
two
options.
So
that's
a
decision
Point
that
the
JS
Department
we'll
work
through
timeline
for
the
project.
J
At
the
end
of
the
day,
the
navigation
chart,
the
red
is
shallow,
green
or
light
blue,
you
know,
is
less
shallow
and
blue
and
black
are
deep
water.
So
that's
that's
one
example
of
how
the
data
can
be
displayed
by
the
JS
department
at
the
end.
Another
look
at
the
data,
so
three
parallel
lines
collected
black
is
deep.
Red
is
shallow.
Green
is
somewhere
in
between
these
are
projects
we
do
for
the
US
Army
Corps
for
safe
navigation
on
the
Illinois,
River
and
Mississippi
rivers.
J
A
J
Few
feet:
we
use
a
dual
frequency
sonar,
so
over
100,
Hertz
kilohertz,
it's
the
soft
top
unconsolidated
and
reflects
back
the
lower
frequencies
are
on
45
kilohertz
go
down
through
that
unconsolidated
material.
If
it's
pure
sand,
it
will
reflect
back
okay.
So
if
it's,
if
it's
sediment
a
mixture
of
sediment,
Beyond
pure
sand,
then
we
can
get
that
depth.
The
Bedrock.
A
Okay,
my
question
is:
I
have
same
type
of
stuff
on
a
boat
that
I
use
and
it
doesn't
always
go
through
like
four
or
five
feet
of
sand
and
show
you
the
rock
bed.
So
you
don't
know
where
the
original
River
was
and
I've
been
searching
out
there
since
I've
been
on
this
River
committee,
and
we
don't
really
come
up
with
to
get
in
the
sand.
It's
like
five
or
six
feet
of
sand.
It
won't
go
any
further
down.
Is
that
this
mine
goes
like
45,
too
I
think
yeah.
J
Yeah,
the
key
there
is
having
a
dual
frequency.
You
know
it's
on
our
unit
in
most
recreational
devices
are
single
frequency,
okay,
so
they're
picking
a
mid
frequency,
probably
closer
to
80,
kilohertz
kind
of
that
middle
of
the
road,
so
you're
getting
a
quick
depth
measurement
but
you're
getting
some
report.
Okay.
J
On
on
what
the
bottom
condition
is,
because
you
know
it's
important
for
Anchorage
if
you're,
if
you're
sailing
or
you
know,
fish
habitat,
if
you're,
if
you're,
trying
to
pick
out
where
the
Largemouth
or
smallmouth
bass
are
yeah,
so
the
recreational
units
are
doing
similar,
but
not
not
the
same
right.
We
have
more
frequency
in
finer
resolution
of
the
data.
Can
you
see
the.
A
J
E
J
E
I'm
not
sure
has
that
been
verified.
That
statement
that
that's
not
I,
don't
know
what
to
be
completely
accurate.
I
can
ask
Christopher
Burke
Engineering
I
just
have
not
heard
that
description.
They
they
were
telling
us
how
much
saying
that,
where
they're
going
to
have
to
get
out
of
there,
so
it
seems
to
me
that
they
would
have
to
penetrate
to
see
how
far
down
it
is.
So
I'll
check
that
out
with
Burke
and
I'll,
get
back
to
you
guys
on
that.
E
Yeah
most
of
the
year,
it
is
unless
it's
flowing
backwards
in
Indiana,
because
of
various
other
reasons.
What
types
of
other
displays
do
you
have
available
on
modeling
is
there?
This
is
a
very
engaging
thing
and
And
Timely
for
us,
as
we
start
to
address
and
dredge,
and
we
want
to
see
the
impact
like
its
state
line
of
what
Indiana
is
doing.
E
So
the
best
thing
to
do
would
be
to
get
a
shot
now,
a
really
good
one
high
quality
and
then
to
compare
10
years
and
see
what
type
of
changes
we're
seeing
in
that
time
period.
When
we
do
another
pathometrics
do
you?
Would
you
agree
that
that's
a
good
process?
You
know
from
your
Viewpoint
as
an
industry
expert.
J
E
E
Why
could
we
do
a
QR
code
and
put
it
on
signs
at
the
boat
launches
and
people
take
a
shot
of
it,
and
it's
really
just
a
picture
of
when
we
did
the
study,
but
it
gives
people
an
idea
where
the
river
hazards
are.
Is
that
something?
Do
you
see
that
we
could
offer
the
public
everybody's
carrying
a
cell
phone?
They
carry
down
the
boat
they'll
know
basically
don't
go
over
here,
go
over
there
yeah.
Do
you
see
that
is
a
good
use,
I.
A
E
E
I
I
J
And
that
would
be
beneficial.
The
flow
rates
are
probably
the
greatest
Hazard
for
people
swimming
in
the
river
and
and
those
of
course
are
impacted
by
the
by
the
surface
runoff
and
the
amount
of
rainfall
in
the
water
basin.
You
know
so
so.
Your
depth
map
is
only
one
variable
in
assessing
the
risk
of
entering
the
water.
You
know
the
the
the
the
the
cubic
feet
per
second
of
the
flow
of
the
river
is
probably
by
far
a
much
greater
Hazard.
You
know
to
people
entering
the
water.
J
D
I
just
interject
the
section.
Currently
we
don't
know
really
that
the
Consultants
have
an
idea
which
one
will
work
best:
the
single
beam
or
the
Dual,
and
that's
why
we're
doing
the
pilot
project
and
the
prices
range
from
about
125
000
to
189
000.?
If
you
could
add
not
to
exceed
189
000
I
would
add
that
to
the.
A
A
A
D
D
A
A
C
H
H
I'd
have
reached
out
to
see
who
the
authorizing
signatory
would
be,
and
I
thought
it
apt
to
ask
for
authorization
similar
to
the
previous
thing.
We
talked
about
to
allow
chairman
wheeler
to
execute
the
documents.
The
one
notable
item
is:
we
have
leftover
planning
dollars
in
the
state
of
Illinois
and
we
typically
receive
about
375
000
for
staff
costs,
direct
staff
costs
and
then
some
of
our
non-personnel
costs
for
planning,
not
the
actual
construction
that
is
up
to
almost
470
000..
H
It's
a
little
over
460
000,
so
we're
up
almost
90
grand
in
utilizing
those
extra
funds.
We
did
put
an
allocation
in
there
this
year
to
talk
about
planning
and
I
know
it's
scary,
because
I
feel
like
we
just
did
this,
but
we're
already
looking
towards
our
new
Five-Year
Plan.
We
do
A
Five-Year
Plan,
so
we'll
be
looking
at
2045
here
very
shortly,
so
we'll
we'll
launch
that
in
execute
2020
2025,
so
we've
got
a
couple
year
planning
still
to
do
so.