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Planning, Zoning & Agriculture Committee Meeting 12/18/2019 9:00 AM
A
B
A
You
okay
first
thing
up
is
public
comment:
I
got
a
few
sheets
here.
Please
limit
this
to
15
minutes
and
we
have
a
official
time
written
down.
So
first,
when
I
received
this
morning
was
from
Kevin
Prince
at
4:04
7
west
thousand
South
Road
k3
Illinois
I'd
like
to
come
up
to
the
microphone
over
there
on
the
left.
My
left,
your
right
John
sit.
C
A
Yeah
point
of
order,
Kane
answer
questions
gotcha.
If
you're
gonna
stick
around
for
a
little
bit,
you'll
hear
what
the
prime.
C
Okay,
yeah
there's
not
exactly
and
you're
gonna
explain
where
they're
at
an
environmental
impact
study.
Yes,
the
whole
nine
yards,
134
residents
live
within
that
mile
square
mile.
Okay,
I,
don't
see
too
many
people
here,
I
heard
about
this
through
word
of
mouth:
okay
and
I
live
less
than
a
mile
from
the
facility.
Okay,
so
a
lot
of
confusion,
a
lot
of
people
don't
know
what's
going
on,
but
I
hope
that
a
lot
of
this
will
be
cleared
up.
Yes,
all
right,
thank
you.
So.
A
D
D
E
Well,
my
question
was
going
to
be
about
the
heavy
processing
facility
that
was
going
to
go
less
than
half
a
mile
away
from
my
house
too,
but
also
the
right,
the
O'connor.
It's
just
ridiculous.
How
many
trucks
go
up
and
down
the
road,
and
you
can
I
can't
even
keep
the
windows
open
and
that
you
know
that
my
tie
to
my
house
cuz
the
dirt
just
blows
in
all
the
time,
but
you're
gonna
answer
some
of
those
questions
about
the
heavy
and
also
it's
maddening
to
know.
E
A
F
G
A
A
H
G
He
was
gonna,
dress
it
up
and
put
a
home
on
the
back
of
it,
which
we've
got
legal
paperwork.
That
shows
this.
What
was
going
to
be
done
from
the
county
for
ten
years
you're
in
a
landfill?
Now
he
wants
to
do
this
on
the
back
of
it
and
he
broke
his
promise
to
all
the
neighbors.
I
was
the
point
man
for
him.
I
told
all
these
people.
He
was
not
gonna.
G
Do
this
that
the
truck
traffic
was
gonna,
stop
it
was
gonna,
cease
the
dust,
the
dirt,
the
noise
it
went
on
24/7
still
to
this
day
and
what
I
ask
of
you
is
to
hold
him
to
his
word
and
don't
allow
this
or
any
industrial
development
on
an
agricultural
property
that
was
planned
to
have
a
home
put
on
it
in
a
residential
neighborhood,
there's
gonna
be
truck
traffic,
leaving
with
loads,
not
just
bringing
it
in
so
you're
gonna
have
twice
the
truck
traffic.
You
know.
A
First
up
we'll
do
the
approval
of
the
minutes.
Everyone
got
an
email
of
the
minutes
from
the
last
meeting.
Does
anyone
have
any
additions
or
deletions
of
no
otherwise
we'll
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
them?
Mr.
Washington,
miss
Dunbar,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
motion
carries
thank
you.
Okay,
Delbert
sup,
with
the
building
report
for
November
2019
got
you
on
there,
though.
Three,
yes
in.
F
Your
packet,
you
have
the
building
division
report
for
November
2019.
We
issued
a
permit
for
one
new
home
51
total
permits
with
a
total
valuation
of
664
thousand
dollars,
and
total
revenues
received
was
thirteen
thousand
one
hundred
and
twenty
dollars
it's
a
little
low
for
December,
but
that
is
a
slow
mo.
Our
excuse
me
November,
but
that
is
a
slow
month
for
the
department
as
far
as
permits
go
and
it's
usually
weather
dependent
last
year.
At
the
same
time,
we
had
issued
sixty
permits
and
had
fees
of
$26,000.
A
Thank
You
anybody
on
board
have
any
comments
on
that
motion
to
get
a
motion
to
approve
it.
The
report-
okay,
mr.
Don
Swanson
I,
get
guys
to
choose
me.
Second,
okay,
mr.
Payton,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
motion
carries
thank
you.
Next
up,
County,
Clerk,
okay,
okay!
Next
up
is
a
stormwater
management
portion.
Mr.
Scanlon
is
gonna
present
that
to
us
it's
gonna
ask
us
about
the
floods
again
as.
F
A
Anyone
have
anything
they
wish
to
speak
about
at
this
time.
Okay,
we'll
move
on
yes,
okay,
we'll
move
on
the
next
thing
it
would
be.
The
zoning
case
would
be
easy,
be
a
case
19-15.
This
is
a
request
for
a
special
use.
Permit
number
24
D
for
heavy
processing
facility
in
an
a.1
agricultural
district,
on
a
parcel
generally
situated
in
section
0-5
of
limestone
township,
the
petitioner
is
mr.
Municipal
Bank
trust,
number
2,
583
property
owner
and
applicant.
At
this
time,
I'm
gonna
have
mr.
skimmer
horn
run
this
bias
real
quick
in.
F
Your
packet
is
a
letter
titled
Mutual
Bank
Trust,
which
is
a
request
by
the
applicant
to
have
the
case
referred
back
to
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
for
further
deliberation
at
the
meeting.
December
9th
a
lot
of
information
was
discussed
and
presented,
and
he
did
not
feel
that
he
had
an
adequate
amount
of
time
to
address
the
issues.
I
It's
more
of
a
statement.
I
think
that
that
descended
back
also
gives
the
residents
out
their
time
to
actually
hear.
What's
going
on,
to
know
more
about
this,
a
lot
of
people
devoted
time
to
come
here
to
so
this
is
the
opportunity
and
Dell.
What
is
the
notification
requirements
when
these
types
of
earrings
go
out
legal.
F
I
F
F
A
F
Do
my
best,
we,
if
you
recall
last
year,
we
granted
Specialties
permits
for
upwards
of
about
38
solar
farms,
eight
of
them
actually
got
approved
by
the
state,
and
we
are
currently
starting
to
get
building
permit
applications
to
actually
build
the
solar
farms
and
the
first
one
is
the
Yaqui
solar
farm
which
we
do
have
a
building.
Permit
application
for
part
of
that
application
process
is
that
they
must
submit
a
decommissioning
plan
along
with
a
financial
security
before
we
can
issue
a
building
permit.
So,
okay.
I
F
Is
adjacent
to
the
city
of
Kankakee
outside
the
city
of
Kankakee,
then
it's
right!
It's
located!
There
is
a
map
in
your
packet
that
shows
where
it's
at,
but
it's
basically,
if
you
were
to
head
west
on
River
Road,
you
would
run
into
this
property
that
t-intersection
at
route
45
in
River
Road.
Is
it's
on
the
west
side
of
that
there's
a
house
there
and
be
behind
the
house.
God.
F
Is
last
year
it's
made
sure
it's
surrounded
by
the
city
of
Kankakee
on
the
back
side
and
the
north
side,
but
this
is
actually
in
county
jurisdiction.
I
asked
mr.
Brian
Hartwig
from
he's
representing
soul
America.
He
does
have
a
presentation
on
this
if
you'd
like
to
hear
it,
it's
we're
not
looking
for
a
motion
today,
just
to
present
the
information
and
come
back
at
next
month's
pza
for
a
decision.
J
J
You
go
great.
We
TRC
provides
engineering
services
for
a
variety
of
developers,
including
Sol
America
and
many
others
in
multiple
counties
throughout
the
state
of
Illinois
and
in
the
East
Coast
as
well.
So
here
I'm
here
I'm
here
right
now
to
talk
about
Sol
Americas
project
and
to
kind
of
start
off
a
little
bit.
Sol
America
is
a
developer
based
out
of
Atlanta
Georgia
and
they
have
an
office
here
in
Naperville
Illinois.
They
specialize
in
this
type
of
development
being
community
solar,
approximately
two
megawatt
sized
arrays
or
systems.
J
So
here
is
the
general
property.
The
line
in
the
yellow
is
the
property
itself,
with
the
blue
being
the
the
actual
facility
solar
array
itself
inside
the
fence.
Like
I
said,
this
is
a
2
mega
watt,
AC
farm,
and
it
sits
on
a
disturbed
area
of
about
fifteen
point,
six
acres
on
a
twenty
seven
and
a
half
acre
lot.
J
J
Okay,
so
decommissioning
activities
generally
consist
of
breaking
down
the
panels,
removing
them
removing
this
racking
system
and
then
removing
all
of
your
electrical
equipment,
including
the
pads
electrical
wiring,
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
then
the
equipment
will
be
removed
for
either
disposal
at
landfill
or
recycled.
Much
of
the
materials
can
be
recycled
or
reused,
and
then
the
final
portions
will
be
site
stable,
site
stabilization.
J
So
here
is
an
the
site
layout
of
the
proposed
array
and
you
coat.
You
can
generally
see
the
the
rows.
That'll
be
there
on
the
on
the
right
side.
You
can
see
the
highway
there
Road
entrance
and
there
is
a
a
larger
18
foot
wide
road
going
into
the
array
which
leads
to
the
electrical
equipment,
and
then
there
is
a
smaller
Road
which
goes
southward
towards
the
the
utility
poles.
In
the
point
of
interconnection.
J
So
here's
a
picture
of
a
of
a
site-
we're
gonna,
go
walk
you
backwards
through
on
the
construction.
This
is
a
so
similarly
sized
all-america
on
project
out
east
and
at
this
point
in
the
construction
of
it,
you
can
kind
of
see
where
the
the
racks
have
been
installed
and
in
part
some
of
the
the
panels
have
been
placed.
So
the
decommissioning
process
will
start
off
basically
coming
out
in
reverse
order,
which
would
be
removing
the
panel's
removing
the
equipment
that
that
causes
it
to.
J
This
is
a
single
access
tracker,
so
there
are
motors
on
there
that
that
rotate
the
panels
along
the
along
the
racking.
So
the
first
thing
we'll
do
is
we'll
come
out,
remove
the
panels
and
then
remove
the
racking
and
pull
the
post.
So,
as
you
can
see,
these
posts
are
in
this
case,
and
the
ones
that
are
proposed
for
this
project
are
the
same
or
very
similar
in
that
they're,
steel,
post,
eye
beams
or
WB
beams
that
are
directly
driven.
Yes,
sir,
okay,
oh.
A
J
You,
like
me
to
repeat
anything
yeah
sure
yeah,
so
the
the
post
in
the
ground
are
our
Debby
beams
were
I
beams,
effectively
larger
flange
high
beams
they're
directly,
driven
in
the
ground.
Very
much
like
what
you
see
this
on
the
guardrails
along
highways
and
stuff.
It's
basically
the
same
thing.
They
come
in
and
directly
drive
them
into
the
ground.
They'll
come
back
out
and
pull
them
straight
out,
and
then
here
is
a
very
similar
equipment
pad.
You
have
a
transformer,
some
combiner
boxes,
inverters
and
and
with
a
their
communications
which
are
all
there.
J
So
you
can
see
all
the
electrical
equipment
is
it's
pretty
well
in
in
a
small
area,
and
so
they
will
basically
come
in
remove
all
of
that
very
quickly.
You
have
a
couple
small,
concrete
pads
for
the
combiner
boxes
and
your
inverters,
the
inverse
on
the
post
and
then
the
transformer
they'll
remove
those
concrete
pads
which
are
usually
in
the
six
eight
inch
thick
range,
and
then
they
will
pull
out
the
gravel.
J
So
the
commission
cost
there.
The
cost
in
this
estimate
are
basically
our
drive
from
from
this
the
scope
of
work
you
have
there
they're
all
called
out
in
this
decommission
plan
the
requirements,
what
needs
to
be
done
in
general
terms,
their
permitting
fees,
they're
our
stormwater
management
fees
and
control
requirements.
There
are
the
fees
for
the
contractor
to
actually
perform
the
work,
and
that
includes
insurance,
labor
cost
and
any
of
their
contractors.
J
Overhead
costs
and
markups
the
materials
with
salvage
value
are
based
on
these
are
based
on
current
market
values
and
will
be
updated
with
the
period
required.
Periodic
engineer
estimates,
the
decommissioning
plans
and
Kankakee
County
require
an
update
every
three
years,
and
so
as
market
conditions
change.
The
plan
value
also
change
if
there
are
significant
changes,
but
items
that
have
recycling
value
include
the
chain-link
fence,
which
is
a
surrounds
of
the
facility.
J
The
steel
piles,
the
solar
panels
themselves,
the
motors,
the
wiring
for
both
a
Society
and
the
DC
side
of
the
equipment,
and
then
any
of
the
equipment
itself
has
some
value.
So
the
total
costs
here
are
for
for
removal
or
in
the
neighborhood
of
two
hundred
five
thousand
dollars
estimated
with
approximately
hundred
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
in
salvage
value,
so
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
net
cost
for
removal
as
what
has
been
estimated
and
then
the
sole
americo's
typical
assurance
mechanism
is
a
surety
bond,
but
that
is
in
process
still
being
worked
through.
J
J
Those
what
will
be
on
what
will
be
on
the
ground
is
the
native
grasses
that
are
planted
as
part
of
the
construction
that
will
be
damaged
for
our
stormwater
permit
in
order
to
get
closure
on
the
stormwater
permit.
That
would
be
that
will
have
to
have
to
do.
The
decommissioning
will
have
to
permanently
stabilize
site,
so
they'll
see
it
any
damaged
areas
the,
and
this
was
brought
up
already.
J
The
the
decommissioning
plan
calls
for
seeding
the
entire
area,
but
the
reality
is
is
when
it's
constructed
is
the
damaged
anything
that
is
damaged
through
construction
will
be
seated
in
order
to
close
and
and
then
once
growth
has
have
been
achieved,
then
I
EPA
will
allow
us
to
close
out
that
stormwater
permit.
J
Now
this
is
farm
land
and
is
expected
to
be
returned
to
farmland
if
the
owner
of
the
property
so
chooses
to,
and
so
they
will
be
able
to
do
what
they
want
with
it
return
it
to
you
know,
fields
and
crop
and
I
know
that
a
farmer
may
wish
to
not
have
everything
receded
with
grass
prior
to
you
know
plowing
everything
in,
but
there
are
limits
to
what
we'll
have
to
do
in
order
to
close
out
the
the
permit
with
the
state,
but
there
may
be
some
exceptions
allowed
for
farmland
and
with
the
owners
owner's
consent.
K
J
If,
for
any
reason,
a
pile
cannot
be
removed,
like
pulled
back
out,
they'll
be
required
to
be
go
down
below
your
plow
line.
Four
feet
down.
Is
the
the
minimum
depth
or
the
maximum
maximum
depth
below
grade
that
something
can
be
left
so
if,
by
any
reason
they
can't
pull
something
out,
it'll
have
to
be
dug
out
and
then
chopped
off
at
four
people
are
great
and
then
fill
back
in,
but
the
expectation
is
and
the
normal
procedure
would
be
to
just
come
out
with
a
piece
of
equipment.
J
I
can
grab
it
and
just
hydraulically
yank
it
out.
The
wiring
would
be
pulled
where,
where
it
can
be
anything
like
said
again,
anything
within
four
feet
of
grade
will
absolutely
have
to
be
removed.
If
they
can't
pull
it,
then
they'll
dig
it
out,
but
yeah
I'll
grab.
All
the
gravel
road
is
we'll
be
removed
the
gravel
around
the
electrical
pads.
If
there's
any
on
this
one
salt
pictures
on
that
site,
they
did
that
that
will
all
have
to
be
removed
so
that
the
ground
can
be
returned
to
farm
conditions.
J
The
the
holes
are
so
we
have
to
do
these.
Calculations
for
impervious
area
are
something
on
the
order
of
0.01
five
square
feet.
It's
it's
literally
an
I-beam.
That's
like
a
half-inch
by
you
know
1/2
inch
or
3/4
of
an
inch
thick.
So
when
you
pull
them
out,
there's
not
going
to
be
really
a
hole
left
the
that
wool.
You
know
just
the
gravel.
You
know
reform
reform.
Yes,
thank
you.
J
As
I'm
sure
everybody
here
knows,
these
are
very
new.
These
systems
have
not
been
decommissioned.
Most
of
the
time
you
know
we're
looking
at
life
spans
of
20
to
30
plus
years
and
I
am
not
aware
of
any
of
these
ever
having
gone
through
that
lifecycle.
Yet
so,
okay.
J
Is
an
engineer's
SS?
It's
an
engineer's
estimate,
based
on
what
we
see.
I
will
say
that
on
this
estimate,
a
value
of
$5
a
panel
is
placed
on
it.
There
will
be
always
a
secondary
market
for
used
panels.
You
know
we're
aware
that
you
know
technology
will
improve
and
the
panels
themselves
degrade
over
time
and
so
that,
at
the
end
of
the
life
cycle
of
this,
the
panels
will
not
be
as
good
as
they
are,
but
there
is
likely
to
be
a
secondary
value
to
them.
J
Other
people
have
used
values
as
high
as
$25
a
panel,
so
five
is
actually
a
fairly
conservative
estimate
that
I
see
now
and,
as
we've
said
this,
this
value,
this
plan
is
required
to
be
updated
every
three
years
by
the
county,
and
so
if
the
markets
do
change
as
time
goes
on,
and
we
start
to
see
that
there
is
no
value
or
the
value
changes,
then
the
the
bond
and
the
the
plan
will
have
to
be
updated
to
to
reflect
that.
Okay,.
L
L
J
L
J
Thank
you,
yeah.
It's
Seoul,
America,
all
developers
for
on
agricultural
land
in
the
state
of
Illinois
yeah.
Mr.
J
M
A
Anyone
else
I
have
a
couple
questions.
Anybody
else
have
any
more.
You
have
a
couple
questions
for
you
when
you
do
damage
when
you
construct
the
sites
to
the
roads
and
intersections
and
shoulders
and
putting
in
culverts
where
they
weren't
before.
Are
you
responsible
for
any
damage
that
you
when
you
tear
this
thing
out?
A
J
J
You
know
this
is
a
plan
as
a
this
isn't
a
specific
Deacon
decommissioning
contract
for
say
this
is
a
the
estimated
cost
for
with
the
intent
of
saying
here
are
the
general
scope
of
things
that
will
have
to
be
done,
and
then-
and
here
are
costs
that
we
are
assuming
or
predicting
will
will
be
associated
with
that
at
the
time
of
decommissioning,
a
plan
would
need
to
be
generated,
including
contracting.
J
A
J
Open
they
would
be
required
to
maintain
that
and
it
you
know
as
to
you
know,
to
getting
your
closure
on
the
stormwater
permit.
You
know
there
would
be
you
have
to
maintain
all
your
stormwater
in
good
working
order
and
there
are
periodic
requirements
for
inspections,
but
you
would
have
to
maintain
all
of
that
in
order
to
get
your
closure
on
the
permit.
I
I
Mr.
Kinzinger
brought
up
something
and
I
think
it's
probably
I.
Don't
want
this
to
be
a
subcommittee.
I
can
probably
use
the
input
of
a
couple
people
from
this
group
as
to
not
create
a
majority
of
a
quorum,
so
we
can
start
to
run
through
this
because,
as
these
types
of
decommissioning
plans,
we're
going
to
be
seeing
quite
a
lot
of
in
the
near
end.
Just
you
know
as
we
go
forward
if
the
state
expands
I
think
we
should
come
up
with
a
policy
regarding
this
to
have
this
committee.
I
Work
through
I
will
be
specific
to
this,
but
other
things
you
know,
there's
a
couple
things
in
here
that
trouble
me.
It
seems
like
we're.
We're
accepting
the
I
want
to
say,
fluctuations
in
the
market
on
recyclables
and
things
like
that
as
a
burden
that
we
carry
and
not
the
industry
and
I
think
we
should
talk
about
that,
because
the
cost
of
land
filling
the
cost
of
recyclables.
The
cost
of
labor
seem
to
be
on
us
as
part
of
this
bond,
where
it
says
that
there's
only
gonna
be
ninety.
I
Eight
thousand
dollars
come
from
the
corporation.
That's
doing
that.
The
solar
panel
install
or
the
company,
and
then
this
bond
is
based
on
what
they
see
today
is
they're
gonna
be
able
to
get
out
of
it.
What
happens
if
they
can't
get
that
out
of
it?
That
comes
back
to
us,
so
I
think
we
ought
to
have
a
small
group
of
people.
That's
not
a
subcommittee
where
we
have
to
sit
in
here
and
debate
this.
We
just
get
into
an
office
and
we
sit
down
and
talk
and
figure
it
out.
A
C
A
F
F
Yeah
same
thing
with
wind
farm:
the
process
here
is
very
similar
and
that's
why
we,
because
of
the
fluctuations
in
the
market?
That's
why
we
have
it
reviewed
every
three
years
to
adjust
for
those
okay,
so
so
be
a
three-year
adjustment
on
them,
and
this
is
only
one
I
think
mr.
Miller
was
that
the
AG
impact
mitigation
agreement-
that's
another,
basically
a
decommissioning
plan
that
they
have
to
file
with
the
Department
of
Ag.
So
this
is
the
second.
This
is
a
secondary
as
well.
So,
okay.
A
O
At
least
I'm
young
enough
I
didn't
have
to
deal
with
Dennis
the
Menace,
and
then
they
came
out
with
a
second
film,
and
it
was
just
it
was
all
over
again
so
for
the
transit
update.
This
is
a
kind
of
a
funny
one.
What
happens
is
I
dot,
reaches
out
to
the
trans
providers
and
says
hey.
You
know
we're
gonna
make
some
funds
available.
Who
wants
one?
So
everybody
raises
their
hand
and
they
say:
okay,
give
us
some
ideas
of
some
projects.
What
we
postulated
as
part
of
our
transit
review.
O
We
have
no
intercom
systems
within
the
buses
for
rural
transit
and
our
drivers
are
yelling
out
to
to
the
riders
and
it
startles
the
people
in
the
front
row.
If
you're
loud
enough
to
hear
in
the
back
row,
so
we're
asking
for
$15,000
for
fifteen
intercoms,
a
thousand
a
crack
to
be
placed
in
the
bus
is
what's
likely
going
to
happen.
Is
they
won't
create
a
grant
program?
O
They're
just
gonna
send
a
grant
agreement
for
chairman
wheeler
to
sign
and
we
wanted
to
appropriately
exercise
this
through
a
committee,
so
the
board
knew
when
the
grant
agreement
comes.
We
haven't
formally
applied
for
a
grant.
This
is
just
kind
of
how
this
process
works.
We
do
not
expect
any
additional
funds
to
come
from
the
county
as
part
of
it.
I
know
that's
typically
the
topic
that
comes
up
but
likely
this
is
a
mid-june
just
kind
of
all
started
off,
but
we
expect
to
see
after
the
state
shutdown
comes
off
in
the
next
calendar
year.
O
A
F
F
Featherly
had
been
talking
that
he'd
like
to
see
the
department
do
some
like
a
better
work,
training
of
the
planning
and
zoning
committee
and
I
thought.
That
was
a
great
idea
that
we
could
have
some
sessions,
especially
on
our
slower
agenda
months,
to
help
inform
the
committee
problem
was,
is
I'm
not
sure
what
you'd
like
to
hear
about
so
give
me
some
suggestions
and
we'll
have
a
presentation
for
the
next
month.
If
there's
anything
that
you
would
like
to
know
more
about
the
zoning
recycling
land
use,
let
me
know:
okay,
especially
you
just
permit.
Mr.
N
I
May
be
the
process
on
engineering
for
all
of
these
solar
farms.
What
is
gonna
happen
and
what
our
responsibility
it
is
and
what
it
is
with,
like
the
drainage
districts,
the
drainage
boards
in
all
these
areas,
the
property
owners.
You
know,
drainage,
tiles,
all
this
stuff,
what
what
it
is
that
we're
gonna
be
doing
and
what
the
process
is,
because
now
that
they're
gonna
be
building
them
next
year,
be
good.
If
this
committee
knew
what
else
rubriz
doing
yeah.
A
A
A
Water
flow
was
you're
controlling
all
that
stuff.
You're
gonna
need
to
be
on
there.
So
as
we
go
along
I
talking
about
an
hour
reviews
or
anything
I
just
thought
little,
you
know
discussions
about
special
use
permits
and
restrictions
and
variations
we
can
make,
especially
these
permits
and
industrial,
and
what
each
specific
limitations
for
zoning
czar
so
I
think
if
you're
gonna
leave
it
up
to
me,
I
guess:
I'll
put
up
the
first
one
to
do
and
then
we'll
go
from
there.
Okay,
anything
else
wish
to
speak
to
that
topic.
A
No
okay,
I'm
gonna
go
with
new
business
here
and
wanted
to
discuss
about.
A
month
ago
we
took
a
ride
with
senator
Sims
and
his
associate
AJ
burst,
burst.
Chief
of
staff
at
JJ's
left
took
quite
a
while
to
get
that
together.
A
lot
of
calls.
The
e-mails
back
and
forth
back
and
forth
can
make
a
long
story
short.
They
came
out
and
we
showed
him
some
issues.
We
took
a
ride
in
a
car
and
we
drove
around
and
showed
him
our
problems
and
all
of
a
sudden,
two
weeks
later,
we
got
a
call.
A
O
Did
a
district
drive
around
with
secretary
Osan
and
I
wanted
to
chairman
wheeler
asked
that
we
reached
out
when
they,
when
they
did
the
drive
around,
they
were
very
specific
about
the
Senators
district.
They
were
just
focusing
on
projects
in
the
Senators
districts,
so
some
of
you
received
an
email
from
me
asking
for
projects.
I've
had
a
you
know,
a
couple,
continuing
conversations,
how
the
meeting
go
and
it
seems
appropriate
just
as
as
I'm
in
front
of
the
board
or
subsection
of
the
forward,
explain
kind
of
what
what
what
all
happened
and
how
work.
O
So
we
met
up
in
Manteno
with
actually
IDOT
district
one.
They
didn't
give
us
district
three
representatives,
but
I
had
mark
Rogers
there
with
us
and
he
knows
all
the
right
people
at
district
3,
but
we
were
able
to
go
through
the
existing
capital
bill
project.
So
we
went
through
the
multi-year
plan
highlighting
some
of
our
traffic
needs.
You
know,
east-west
traffic
safety
issues,
how
universal
access
is,
what
has
impacted
us?
O
The
secretary
was
able
to
see
specifically
what
jobs
will
be
done
and
we
went
through
each
one
and
that
right
there
is
the
the
North
Branch
of
the
Creek.
That's
the
Dec
replacement
we're
talking
about.
He
was
able
to
see
it.
We
ran
out
of
manteno
village
hall
on
9
to
45.
We
stopped
at
Hicks
gas
at
12,000,
just
got
out
of
the
vehicles.
O
At
that
point
we
didn't
have
any
specific
projects
to
talk
about
John
hopped
in
with
the
senator
and
the
secretary
and
was
able
to
run
down
12,000
we
stopped
again
at
route
1
and
12,000
and
I
was
telling
a
few
people.
Today,
as
we
were
standing
there,
three
container
trucks
were
backed
up
on
northbound
route,
1
turning
left
on
a
12,000
cut
across
the
county.
O
The
secretary
was
very
interested
in
how
we're
talking
about
enforcement
issues
surrounding
truck
traffic
and
speeding
and
there's
a
piece
that
through
oxcart,
we
will
be
training
some
of
our
sheriff's
deputies
on
weight,
scaling
things
like
that.
But
it's
it's
a
body
issue.
Then
how?
How
do
we
take
those
deputies
off
the
street
to
do
just
weight
issues?
How
do
we
get
access
to
scales?
O
I
think
that
this
opens
up
an
opportunity
for
us
to
ask
for
some,
maybe
smaller
funds,
not
a
hundred
million
dollars
worth
of
transportation
issues
on
an
east-west
traffic
within
the
county,
but
you
know
potential
funds
for
for
the
scales
potential
funds
for
training
or
actually
staff
time
for
bodies
for
deputies
to
do
this
enforcement
and
Secretary's
son
was
very
big
on
you
know.
How
does
the
enforcement
piece
play
in
so
we
were
very
happy
to
be
touching
on
what
our
exhibit
their
existing
efforts
are.
But
then
what
could
the
the
new
efforts
be?
O
You
know
one
of
the
projects
we
highlighted
was
the
route
one.
We
did
a
safety
run-through
with
I
dot
in
the
county
route.
1
shoulders
at
12,000
are
being
repaired,
but
they're
not
it's
not
an
improved
intersection,
we're
filling
in
the
shoulders
because
the
trucks
are
turning
there,
but
it's
most
certainly
only
a
band-aid.
O
So
we
were
able
to
walk
that
with
the
secretary
and
show
him
exactly
what
we
were
talking
about
for
still
thankful
for
this
126
million
dollars
very
happy
about
all
the
funds
that
are
being
expended
in
Kankakee
County,
but
there
are
still
obviously
some
gaps
and
we'd
like
to
see
some
additional
funds.
Okay,.
N
Thank
You
mr.
chairman,
then
I
would
be
interested
in
the
enforcement
piece,
even
if
we
can't
just
utilize
that
on
County
highways,
but
also
in
townships
where
Township
road
commissioners
are
complaining
about
overloaded
trucks
cutting
through
their
townships
there's
been
complaints
in
my
district
that
there's
there's
no
way
to
enforce
those
trucks
that
are
overloaded
or
no
way
to
catch
them
and
write
the
tickets
to
keep
them
from
cutting
across
township
roads
as
well
as
highway
roads.
So.
O
And
I
can't
I
can't
speak
on
behalf
of
the
sheriff.
I
mean
that's,
you
know
it's
it's
his
tamp
that
he
that
handles
this,
and
we
brought
him
in
just
to
touch
on
how
the
training
would
work.
But
there
are,
through
this
oxcart
program
that
we're
initiating
for
the
over
weight,
permitting
the
responsible
entity
so
mark
will
get
an
email
saying,
hey
this
person
has
applied
for
this,
and
then
he
gets
the
opportunity
for
my
understanding
to
to
approve
the
permit.
We
at
least
then
know
what
the
permits
look
like
I
know.
O
As
far
as
the
scales
are
concerned,
we
currently
do
not
have
scales,
Kankakee
has
scales
and
they
do
not
at
least
from
last
understanding.
They
do
not
have
a
trained
enforcement
officer
to
use
them
and
Bourbonnais
has
scales.
So
there
is
an
opportunity
there.
Just
you
know
in
the
more
immediate
future
to
borrow,
or
we
can
send
say
you
pulled
over
a
vehicle
that
you
suspected
to
be
overweight.
You
can
send
them
to
a
scale.
You
can
say
meet
me
and
so
I
don't
know.
O
If
there's
a
partnership
there
with
the
existing
scales,
a
former
former
sheriff's.
If
I,
if
I,
understand
W
right
I'm,
not
in
that
business,
I'm,
just
we're
trying
to
look
at
kind
of
quick
solutions
and
then
talking
to
the
secretary
about
more
long-term
solutions
for
improved
access.
East-West,
you
know,
and
we
during
their
route,
they
said
we
wanted
to
run
12,000
wanted
to
run
up
45.
O
N
A
Know
our
idea
was
that
if
we
had
a
system
where
we
could
do
it-
and
the
word
gets
out
there-
that
we
have-
you
know
watching
their
trucks
for
safety,
because
a
lot
of
those
containers
are
leaning
around
the
corner,
it's
either
either
overload
overload
or
that
the
trailers
not
designed
that
have
a
container
in
the
center
like
they
do
with
them.
So
it's
a
safety
issue
for
falling
on
other
cars
and
getting
stuck
in
the
side
of
the
ditch
and
bending
all
the
culverts
over
and
doing
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
A
So
we're
gonna
be
working
on
that
pretty
hard
with
him.
I
get
haven't
community
communication
from
him
yet,
but
I
believe
he
was.
They
were
all
going
to
be
gone
for
a
little
bit.
I
think
they
won't
be
back
to
up
to
1st
of
the
year
so,
but
we
will
I
will
definitely
be
in
touch
with
them.
So
mr.
Wong
just.
A
A
Every
time
we
came
to
an
intersection
for
some
reason,
it
was
like
Ben
was
driving
along
I,
don't
want
to
say
how
fast
we
were
going
because
it
was,
you
know
we
had
it.
You
know
senator
and
everything
in
the
car
was
so
but
yeah
and
the
cameras
are
rolling.
We
came
up
to
an
intersection
at
route,
1
and
county
highway,
Willowby
kind
of
12,000.
A
So
I'll
give
you
an
idea
how
fast
they're
driving
on
the
roads
I've
had
calls
from
people
in
my
district
complaining
about
the
trucks
and
getting
their
dogs
killed
and
their
dog
they
find
their
dog.
You
know
half
a
mile
down
the
road,
I
didn't
even
slow
down
enough
to
say
sorry
or
anything
so
they're
going
too
fast
through
there
and
I
sat
out
there
at
five
in
the
morning.
A
One
time
just
to
see
if
it
was
true
and
I
was
talking
to
sheriff
darling
yesterday
is
that
day
I
don't
have
a
radar
gun
in
my
truck,
but
I
can
tell
you
when
the
trucks
going
way
too
fast
and
they're
driving
on
our
tire
and
chip
road.
If
somebody's
coming
the
other
way
and
they're
going
that
fast,
nobody
has
a
chance,
so
it
needs
to
be
looked
at
whether
we
need
to
mark
the
roads
or
change
things
around
speeding.
Gonna
be
gonna,
be
looked
at
shortly,
so
we're
working
on
that.