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Planning, Zoning & Agriculture Committee Meeting 1/22/2020 9:00 AM
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Thank
you.
First
up,
we'll
do
public
comment.
I,
don't
think
we
have
any.
Is
there
anyone
here
for
public
comment?
I,
don't
have
any
sheets,
so
we'll
move
on
to
that
everyone
received
the
minutes
by
email
or
by
paper.
Does
anyone
make
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
or
anything
in
mr.
Peyton?
Second
by
oh
man,
yeah
I
want
to
call
you
a
chair,
but
that's
not
right.
Mr.
Miller
is
different
than
Chad.
Okay,
there
you
go
hi
Chad,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
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E
Got
it
yeah
yeah
the
building
report
for
December
2019?
You
should
have
a
copy
in
your
packet.
We
issued
a
total
of
43
permits.
Two
of
those
were
for
new
houses
and
collected
total
fees
of
twenty
one
thousand
two
hundred
and
forty
two
dollars
it's
a
little
bit
down
from
last
year.
At
the
same
for
the
same
month,
which
we
collected
thirty
two
thousand
eight
hundred
thirty-six
and
fees.
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Was
all
reviewed
at
the
GIS
committee,
which
is
appointed
by
this
board
as
well
as
the
our
municipal
partners?
We
had
seven
vendors
that
gave
their
qualifications
and
their
prices
the
committee
piece,
and
we
also
offered
we
asked
for
prices
on
four
different
options.
One
was
six-inch
pixels,
which
we
currently
have
for
our
aerial
photography.
Another
one
was
for
three
inch
pixels.
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There
was
a
combination
where
we
would
do
three
inch
pixels
in
the
metro
area
and
six
inch
pixels
outside
the
county,
and
then
there
was
two
options
that
had
oblique
imagery,
which
is
basically
3d
imagery.
The
committee
determined
that
the
3d
imagery
was
out
of
our
price
range
at
this
time,
and
then
maybe
we
would
look
at
it
again
when
we
redo
aerial
photography
in
five
years
and
they
settled
on
sir
decks
at
a
price
tag
of
a
hundred
and
forty
thousand
dollars.
E
So
what
we're
asking
for
today
is
for
the
committee
to
approve
that
recommendation
and
send
it
on
to
the
full
County
Board
and
to
allow
the
County
Board
Chairman
to
sign
enter
into
the
contract.
You
have
a
copy
of
the
contract
in
your
packet.
We
have
pending
si
our
state's
attorney's
approval
on
the
contract.
We've
got
that
up
at
their
office
right
now
for
review.
Okay,.
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E
It
took
about
nine
months
from
the
time
of
the
flight
till
we
actually
got
final
delivery,
they're
telling
us
now
that
they
will
fly
it
as
soon
as
they
can
in
either
March
or
April.
They
have
to
wait
till
the
snows
off
the
ground
and
before
leaves
so
there's
a
window.
There
appear
on
the
trees,
but
we
will
probably
have
our
delivery
in
July
or
August.
Okay,.
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Well,
the
G
is
the
entire
department
and
all
of
our
purchases
are
paid
for
through
user
fees
paid
at
the
recorders
office,
and
is
that
goes
into
a
special
account.
There's
seven
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollars
in
that
account
last
I
checked
and
that's
what
that's
what
this
money
is
being
saved
for?
Is
this
topography,
biometrics
and
some
other
larger
purchase
items?
Besides
our
yearly
budget.
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H
You
I'm
just
curious
on
the
decision,
not
not
saying
it's
the
wrong
one,
but
the
oblique
imagery,
the
3d,
that
which
is
really
good
for
fire
and
law
enforcement.
Was
there
and
I
just
look
over
an
option
for
for
the
Williams
company
I'm,
just
there's
not
much
difference
there,
but
you
get
a
lot
more
with
oblique
and
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
was
there
any
input
from
those
groups?
I.
E
Didn't
put
all
the
caveats
into
this:
these
are
just
the
raw
numbers
that
168
was
just
for
them
to
collect
good
photography,
okay,
not
to
process
it,
so
they
were
just
gonna,
fly
the
planes
and
collect
the
photographer's.
The
obliques
needs
a
lot
of
post-processing
after
the
fact,
and
that's
where
you're
getting
into
those
two
three
four
hundred
thousand
dollars.
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So
they
need
to
provide
some
type
of
financial
guarantee
that
matches
that
number
in
in
that
plan,
and
that
plan
is
reviewed
every
three
years.
So
you're
really
not
looking
at
a
decommissioning
plan
at
this
point
for
twenty
years,
you're
looking
at
it
for
the
next
three,
which
the
likelihood
of
them
being
decommissioned
in
the
next
three
years
is
probably
slim
or
not
yeah,
because
it
will
be
re-evaluated
in
three
years
and
and
the
security
will
be
adjusted
accordingly.
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That
being
said,
they're
really
I
broke
it
down.
There
are
three
questions
that
need
to
be
considered.
One
are
the
decommissioning
cost
numbers
in
these
two
plans
reasonable
and
accurate.
My
state
myself
and
my
staff
have
reviewed
it
and
we
feel
that
it
is
reasonable
and
we
can't
predict
the
future.
But
if
you
look
at
the
numbers
that
they
give
there
for
removing
the
roads,
removing
the
fence
receding
the
site,
it
seems
reasonable.
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So
if
you
accept
those
numbers,
then
the
next
question
is
because
a
lot
of
them
would
like
to
remove
the
value
of
scrap
from
their
financial
security.
Second
question
is:
do
you
want
to
do
that?
Or
do
you
want
a
financial
security
for
the
entire
amount
of
the
decommissioning
plan?
Scrap
is
a
very
volatile
commodity
and
those
numbers
go
up
and
down
all
the
time.
And
thirdly,
once
you've
answered
those
two
questions,
what
type
of
financial
security
would
be
accepted?
What
does
the
county
want
to
see?
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E
I
also
recommend
we
do
not
include
a
reduction
for
the
value
of
scrap,
alright,
okay,
that
definitely
covers
the
county
and
that
we
accept
either
a
bond
or
cash
in
an
escrow
account
for
the
amount
of
the
decommissioning
plan
we'll
revisit
again
in
three
years.
I
should
probably
also
note
that
there's
a
nother
guarantee
out
there
through
the
Illinois
Department
of
Ag
agriculture,
because
shortly
after
these
started
popping
up,
they
passed
new
legislation
that
required
them
to
do
what
they
call
an
agricultural
impact
mitigation
plan,
which
is
very
similar
to
a
decommissioning
plan.
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So
there
will
be
security
at
the
state
level
to
have
these
decommissioned
as
well.
Now
that
that
is
a
little
bit
different
plan.
As
far
as
the
security
the
first
six
years,
they
only
have
to
give
10%
of
the
value
at
at
your
11
they're
at
100
percent
of
the
value,
and
it
gets
really
to
not
nearly
as
often
as
ours
does.
I
thinks
every
five
years.
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You
can't
have
a
corporate
surety
guarantee,
because
what,
if
they're
sold
off
or
sometimes
it
doesn't
want
to
think
Oh
completely
belly-up
and
then
we're
left
holding
the
bag,
so
I'd
highly
recommend
with
a
bond
or
cash
in
an
escrow
account
I
couldn't
vote
for
anything
else,
but
that
the
first
item
you
know
the
the
numbers
do
seem
accurate
and
reasonable
I.
Believe
you
looked
around
and
tried
to
look
for
comps
on
that
and
there's
nothing
indicating
that
those
are
out
of
whack
in
this.
It.
H
One
volatile
part
that
I
think
we're
all
concerned
with
last
time
was
the
value
of
scrap.
When
we
were
talking
about
this,
because
it
shouldn't
be
up
to
us
to
be
able
to
turn
scrap
market's
going
to
be
it's
their
investment,
it
should
be
on
them.
So
I
would
say
yes
that
we
should.
It
should
be
included
in
the
the
financial
security
and,
on
a
fate,
end
up
getting
a
better
deal
or
a
worse
deal.
That
not,
though,.
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A
Quick,
do
we
dull
word
when
this
happens?
Do
we
put
that
with
the
land
or
you
put
that
with
the
equipment?
Because,
if
the,
if
the
impression
I
got
from
these
solar
farm
guys,
is
they
run
around
the
country
and
set
these
up
and
get
them
going
and
then
sometimes
they
sell
them
off
and
they
move
so
does
it
go
with,
though?
The
owner
original
owner
of
the
property
owners
that
stay
with
the
land
itself
stays
with
the.
G
They
would
have
it
as
one
who
obtains
fines.
The
bond
would
be
issued
to
the
benefit
of
keiki
County
and
I
would
like
to
see
a
couple
of
things
done
regarding
this
decommissioning
plan.
First
of
all,
the
bond
I
think
should
be
at
a
hundred
and
twenty
five
percent
of
the
difference
between
what
the
egg
ordinance
says
and
what
the
county
says.
So
there
we
don't
have
to
have
binding
duplication.
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G
You
mister
as
I,
read
that
the
information
planet
paragraph
it
indicated
that
we
have
the
right
to
obtain
a
bond.
All
I'm
suggesting
is
these.
This
is
the
type
of
bond
we're
going
to
obtain.
We're
gonna
make
the
renewal
on
the
backs
of
the
one
getting
the
bond.
We're
gonna
have
the
bond
at
125
percent
of
the
difference
between
what
the
egg
law
requires
and
what
they
think
is
the
improvement
and
that
we
that
bind
also
includes
a
thousand-dollar
day
penalty.
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I've
been
around
that
long
time,
15
18
years,
23
years,
actually
and
I've,
heard
and
been
involved
in
all
different
kinds
of
different
things,
but
a
lot
of
people
haven't
so
I
asked
Ober
to
give
us
a
couple
points
each
week
to
you
know
things
that
were
going
to
be
coming
up
and
things
that
were
going
to
be
talking
about
in
the
future
here
in
the
near
future.
So
he's
going
to
give
us
a
quick
commercial
permit,
review,
process,
presentation
here
and
property
rights
and
Zoning
presentation
right.
E
Call
on
you,
if
I
need
you
okay,
last
month,
when
I
made
the
offer
about
topics
that
we
could
discuss,
mr.
wheeler
chairman
wheeler
asked
that
he
would
he'd
like
to
know
more
about
how
the
commercial
permitting
process
in
respect
to
solar
farms,
works
and
I
thought
about.
I
said
it's
really
the
same
thing
as
any
commercial
permit,
so
I
tailored
a
presentation
for
you
in
regards
to
commercial
permitting
or
as
we
call
them
non-residential
permits.
E
We
try
to
stay
away
from
calling
it
commercial
permits,
because
then
we
get
people
who
have
schools
or
churches,
and
it's
not
a
commercial
building
and
right,
it's
not,
but
it
still
falls
under
that
same
category
because
it's
non-residential
on
the
wall
over
here
I
created
this
a
while
back
in
anticipation
of
trying
to
automate
the
process.
Some
is
the
county's
entire,
permitting
process.
It's
a
little
impressive,
basically
I'm
gonna
get
up
for
just
a
second.
There.
E
So
backing
up
when
you
come
into
the
department
and
ask
for
a
permit,
you
start
here.
All
of
these
are
the
questions
that
our
inspectors
have
to
ask
for
any
given
permit.
The
permit
is
actually
issued
here
and
final
here
after
inspections
in
review,
so
the
bulk
of
it
is
just
in
the
application
process.
Not
every
permit
has
to
follow
every
one
of
these
boxes
and
check.
It
depends
on
the
type
of
permit
this
purple
area
over
here.
E
That's
so
salt
ours,
this
green
area
over
here
that's
agricultural
exempt
permits
and
if
it's
a
commercial
permit,
that
requires
liquor,
licences
or
various
other
reviews
by
the
Health
Department.
Some
of
that
is
over
in
here,
so
not
in
flood
plain.
These
are
our
flood
plain
questions
down
here
so,
depending
on
the
property,
the
type
of
permit
depends
on
what
questions
have
to
be
answered,
but
if
all
them
get
to
yes
at
the
end,
we
issue
the
permit.
E
E
And
we
are
not
going
through
that
entire.
Thank
you
but
begins
with
an
application
for
the
commercial
permitting
process
and
part
of
that
application.
They
have
to
submit
structural
drawings
and
calculations,
civil
drawings
plans
and
calculations.
If
they're
going
to
be
doing
any
earth
work,
a
list
of
contractors
and
depending
on
the
type
of
permit,
it
could
be
other
permits
from
external
agencies
that
we
also
have
to
verify
that
they
have
and
other
supporting
documentation
and
plans,
depending
on
the
type
of
permit.
E
Those
plans
we
have
nobody
on
staff
that
is
qualified
to
review
those
plans,
so
structural
review
plans
and
all
of
those
calculations
and
submittals
go
to
a
third-party
reviewer
for
review.
Currently
we
use
coastal
and
engineering.
We
certainly
would
use
others,
but
we
have
not
found
one
yet
that
structural
engineers
are
evidently
fairly
rare,
but
if
we
do
find
another
firm
that
would
would
like
to
be
our
reviewing
agency.
E
Likewise,
the
civil
review
side
of
things,
if
you
are
doing
earth
work
or
impervious
surface,
all
of
those
plans
go
out
to
a
third
party
reviewer
for
engineering
review
on
those
that
cost
is
also
paid
by
the
applicant.
Currently,
we
rotate
between
mg
to
a
patient's
piggish
and
Robinson
engineering
for
the
service.
So
we
have
three
on
that
side
that
that
we
rotate
between.
Obviously,
they
cannot
review
their
own
work
so
sometimes
that
plays
a
factor
into
who
gets
which
project.
E
They
have
to
do
a
Notice
of
Intent.
If
they're
doing
any
earth
work
is,
must
be
filed
with
the
IE
EPA
prior
to
the
commencement
of
the
project.
They
have
to
do
a
notice
of
termination
once
the
project
is
complete,
also
filed
with
the
IE
EPA,
and
we
need
to
make
our
staff
needs
to
make
sure
that
all
of
these
documents
have
we
have
a
copy
of
all
of
them.
To
make
sure
it's
been
done,
the
NPDES
report,
they
have
to
do
a
national
pollution
discharge
elimination
system
permit
also
issued
by
the
EPA.
E
E
In
the
case
of
solar
farms,
they
must
have
an
agricultural
impact
mitigation
agreement
in
place,
also
wind
farms.
If
we
happen
to
get
another
one
of
those
that
applies
to
both
of
both
of
those
types
of
projects
and
those
are
the
only
two
projects
that
those
apply
to.
So
that's
what
kind
of
a
special
one
based
on
the
type
of
project,
additional
steps
and
reviews,
depending
on
the
project
if
it
needs
a
new
entrance,
an
entrance
permit
needs
to
be
issued.
E
We
do
not
issue
that,
but
we
have
referral
forms
that
sends
them
to
the
property
the
proper
Road
use
authority
to
obtain
that
permit.
They
need
to
bring
a
copy
of
that
permit
back
to
us
before
we
can
approve
the
project
if
it
needs
an
address
they
get
sent
to
e-911
for
issuance
of
an
address
and
depending
on
the
specifics
of
the
project,
there
could
be
other
things.
E
Solar
farms
have
a
few
extra
as
a
drain
tile
map.
They
must
provide
us
with
a
sub
service
training,
tile
map
that's
created,
and
then
we
send
that
out
to
our
third-party
civil
engineers,
part
of
the
civil
review
process,
but
we
also
send
a
copy
of
that
to
any
affected
drainage
districts
in
the
area
and
that,
of
course,
any
deficiencies
or
issues
are
resolved
during
the
civil
review
process.
If
there
is
a
problem
with
the
drainage
district,
they
would
contact,
they
have
any
problems
with
it
or
any
issues.
E
They
would
contact
us
and
we
would
get
those
results
before
we
issue
a
permit.
Solar
farms
require
a
road
use
agreement
with
the
with
the
road
user
thority
prior
to
the
issuance
of
a
permit
when
it
comes
to
a
solar
farm,
and
they
must
have,
as
we
just
did
earlier,
a
decommissioning
plan
in
place
before
we
can
issue
a
permit.
Those
are
additional
steps
for
solar
farms
final.
E
Once
these
reviews
have
all
been
approved
and
all
the
requirements
have
been
satisfied.
A
building
permit
will
be
issued,
the
field
be
calculated
and
will
receive
the
funds
for
the
project,
and
then
we
enter
into
the
inspection
process
until
final
completion
upon
final
completion,
either
a
certificate
of
occupancy
or
certificate
of
compliance
will
be
issued
depending
on
the
type
of
project.
You
can't
occupy
something:
that's
not
a
building,
so
it
would
be
a
certificate
of
compliance
if
it's
not
a
structure
related
okay,.
A
H
D,
as
we
put
these
together,
can
you
start
just
in
your
own
office,
a
binder
to
start
with
on
these
presentations
and
then
because
every
couple
years,
committees
change
around
new
people
come
on
the
board.
New
people
join
this
committee,
it'd
be
nice.
If
we
could
give
people
that
and
maybe
even
put
it
all
online
or
some
level
so
just
start
assembling
that
as
we
go
and
we
start
doing
these
things
yeah,
it
just
makes
sense
that
we
nice
to
take
that
back
and
review
it
from
time
to
time.
Yes,.
E
E
H
A
E
E
E
So
it
is
a
moving
target,
but
most
people
who
explain
property
rights
explain
them
as
a
bundle
of
sticks
when
you
own
property,
you
have
a
bundle
of
rights
like
a
bundle
of
sticks
and
those
sticks
can
be
traded,
can
be
transferred
and
you
or
you
can
transfer
or
trade
the
entire
bundle,
such
as
outright
selling
the
property.
But
you
don't
have
to
sell
the
property
to
transfer
a
right.
You
can
transfer
rights,
just
partial
rights.
E
Some
of
the
rights
in
your
bundle,
the
right
to
possess
the
property,
the
right
to
mortgage,
wise
or
otherwise,
encumber
the
property
financially
the
right
to
lease
the
property,
the
right
to
sell
it,
the
right
to
subdivide
it
and
the
right
to
encumber
the
land,
such
as
create
a
covenant
or
a
restriction
on
the
land.
So
those
are
some
of
your
rights,
you
guys,
like
said
you
can
transfer
any
or
all
of
these
rights
when
you
own
property,
there
are
other
bundles,
even
though
you
own
the
property.
E
There
are
other
entities
out
there
that
also
have
a
bundle
of
Rights
on
your
property,
and
they
include
the
public,
the
government
and
third
parties
and
we'll
explain
some
of
those,
the
public,
some
of
the
entities
that
may
have
interest
in
your
property
and
that's
usually
by
state
statute
or
law,
railroads,
Public,
Works
facilities,
utility
transmission,
ride
lines,
air
rights,
riparian
or
water
rights,
mineral
rights
and
sometimes
grazing
rights.
You
don't
see
that
too
much
around
here,
but
quite
often
out
west.
E
The
government
has
rights.
You
know,
you
know
the
right
to
own
property
is
granted
by
the
government
and
they've
determined.
They
want
to
keep
a
few
of
those
rights
for
themselves,
such
as
the
right
to
collect
taxes,
the
right
to
enforce
the
lien,
the
right
to
protect
endangered
species
or
wetlands,
the
right
of
Zoning,
the
right
to
develop
the
right
to
condemn
your
property
and
the
right
to
prohibit
nuisances.
E
And
some
third
parties
can
actually
have
rights
over
your
property
right,
a
possession-
if
you
have
a
homeowner's
association,
that
your
property
resides
in.
You
have
given
some
of
your
property
rights
to
that
homeowners,
association,
historic
preservation,
entities,
conservation
entities-
if
you
have
a
conservation
easement
on
your
property,
that
you've
established
you
give
some
of
your
rights
to
that
conservation
entity
or
given
up
some
of
your
rights
to
them
such
as
I
will
not
build
on
this
and
I
will
conserve
it.
Your
right
to
build
is
then
given
away.
E
Easements
is
definitely
a
third
party
right
to
your
property
you've,
given
any
one
of
those
rights
to
someone
else
and
adverse
possession,
and
that's
an
entirely
different
section
of
the
law.
But
if
you
have
property
that
isn't
an
adverse
possession
situation,
you
have
given
up
some
of
your
property
rights.
So
how
does
this?
How
does
this
work
with
zoning?
E
As
I
said
earlier,
controlling
the
use
of
your
property?
Zoning
is
a
right.
The
government
has
kept
for
itself
over
your
property,
and
the
purpose
of
that
is
spelled
out
in
every
zoning.
Ordinance
and
state
statute
pertaining
to
zoning
is
to
protect
the
public
health
safety,
comfort,
morals
and
general
welfare.
That
is
why
we
zone
and
property
rights
are
at
the
core
is
owning.
E
It
balances
the
rights
of
property
owners
with
the
rights
of
others
within
that
those
bundles
that
I
spoke
up,
as
well
as
the
rights
and
bundle
holders
within
adjoining
properties
and
nearby
property
owners,
and
one
of
the
goals
of
zoning
is
to
reduce
conflicts
between
property
owners
by
placing
compatible
uses
together
and
separating
incompatible
uses.
That's
the
first
step
was
zoning
is
to
put
compatible
uses
in
the
same
district.
E
Time
has
proven
that
a
religious
facility
or
a
school
is
compatible
with
resident
residential
uses,
so
they
are
allowed
in
the
residential
district.
A
factory
may
not
be
compatible
with
that
so
they're
put
in
the
industrial
district,
and
that's
how
that's
the
first
step
is
separating
uses
by
compatibility
which
the
county
has
done,
and
it
also
sets.
Zoning
also
sets
standards
that
have
to
be
followed
by
everyone.
So,
therefore,
everyone
has
an
even
playing
field,
and
everyone
has
to
play
by
the
same
rules
that
provides
predictability.
E
What
you
can
build,
where
you
can
build
how
you
can
build,
and
although
it
does
limit
your
property
rights,
it
can
also
be
beneficial
by
protecting
your
property
rights,
because
it
also
controls
how
your
neighbor
can
use
their
property,
how
your
neighbor
can
build
on
their
property
and
where
your
neighbor
can
build
on
your
property,
so
think
of
zoning
as
a
protection
of
property
rights
and
I.
Think
I
already
discussed
this
a
little
bit,
but
it
groups
uses
into
compatible
districts.
Therefore,
reducing
conflicts.
Conflicts
can
still
happen,
but
it
created.
E
It
greatly
reduces
the
amount
of
conflicts
between
property
owners
in
different
uses,
and
it
also
provides
a
public
forum
so
that
if
there
is
a
zoning
change,
if
your
neighbors
trying
to
zone
their
property
to
something
different,
you
get
a
voice.
There's
a
public
hearing,
there's
a
whole
process
to
go
through.
You
may
not
win,
and
they
may
still
be
able
to
do
what
they
they
were.
Asking
to
do,
but
at
least
you
were
able
to
speak
your
mind,
and
it
didn't
just
happen
in
a
vacuum,
so
it
does.
E
If
you
do
your
due
diligence
and
researchers
at
the
zoning
over
there
that
you're
not
going
to
end
up
with
a
incompatible
use
next
door,
I
mean
yes,
it's
sometimes
it
does
happen,
but
it
does
provide
a
level
of
predictability
that
you're
not
guessing.
If
I,
if
I,
invest
in
this
property
and
build
a
nice
house
here,
what
am
I
gonna
have
next
door.
If
you
look
at
the
zoning
and
it's
zoned
residential,
you
be
fairly
confident,
there's
gonna
be
another
residence
next
door.
E
A
E
H
Well,
this
is
the
way
you
explain
the
property
owners
rights
and
then
you
know
on
both
sides
of
an
issue
have
pepp
rights.
Is
that
why
this
committee
is
a
quasi-judicial
committee
that
only
centers
evidence
put
before
them
and
not
hearsay
in
public
comments
and
side
conversations?
Is
that
the
root
of
why
it's
a
different
role
to
be
on
this
committee?
In
those
situations
it.
E
Goes
back
to
the
fairness,
it's
not
fair!
If
you're
making
your
decision
on
information
that
the
rest
of
the
group
does
not
have
to
make
the
same
decision.
Zoning
is
based
on
facts.
What
are
the
facts
of
the
case?
This
guy
parcel
a
should
be
able
to
do
what
it's
want,
whatever
it
wants,
unless
it
can
be
proven
that
they
can't
emotions
are
not
fact.
You
know
grandmothers
crying
in
the
background
is
not
a
fact.
Well,
it's
a
fact
she's
crying,
but
it
doesn't
really
pertain
to
the
case.
E
However,
50
trucks
a
day
might
pertain
to
the
case.
Yes,
okay
and
if
you
know
about
those
50
trucks,
but
Ron,
doesn't
know
about
those
50
trucks,
then
you're
making
a
decision
that
might
be
different
than
his
because
he
hasn't.
He
is
not
party
to
that
information.
So
that's
that's
part
of
the
reason.
Yes,.
F
F
Canvas
on
on
the
fencing,
so
we
as
a
small
community
of
Planning
and
Zoning,
went
over
and
viewed
both
properties
and
found
that
it
was.
There
was
no
justification
for
what
they
what
they
had
said.
They,
the
real
reason,
was
something
I
wasn't
expecting
to
intimidate
the
other
family
to
make
them
take
the
tennis
court
down.
That's.
E
A
A
H
A
E
That
no
just
somebody
willing
to
serve
that
we
do,
we
do
try
to
make
it
geographically
dispersed
and
we
like
to
have
different
membership
from
various
levels
of
expertise
such
as
a
lawyer,
farmer
banker.
You
know
just
to
keep
those
various
and
like
to
have
it
spread
out
and
so
far
we
do.
We
do
have
him.
We
do
have
one
applicant
for
one
of
those
openings
currently
so
I
think
that'll
be
on
the
executive
committee.
Can.
E
A
E
E
E
J
E
H
E
I
think
I
explained
what's
required.
Do
you
want?
You
want
the
actual
process
that
the
engineers
go
through
for
review,
because
I'd
have
to
probably
bring
them
in,
for
that
I
mean
we
send
them
all
the
plans
and
specifications
they
review.
They
find
deficiencies.
They
talk
to
the
other
engineers
who
drew
it
and
they
go
back
and
forth
until
they
come
to
an
agreement
of
what's
right,
then
we
see
it
again
once
it's
got
a
prude
stamp
on
it.
Where's.
E
E
A
Of
my
stuff
was
about
farms
and
you
know
drain
tiles
and
who
put
him
in
and
WPA
put
him
in
and
who
put
him
in
the
guy.
Could've
put
him
in
didn't
put
them
on
a
map.
So
you
get
these
solar
farms
going.
Do
they
have
wood
survey
for
all
that
stuff
in
the
ground
when
they
do
that?
That's
kind
of
things.
A
A
E
How
they
do
it
I
do
not
know,
but
I
do
have
a
map
for
that
for
one
of
them.
That
shows
all
of
the
not
only
the
main
trunk
lines,
but
all
of
the
feeder
lines
as
well.
Oh
good,
our
engineers
will
compare
that
to
those.
So
if
our
plan
and
make
sure
that
you
know
they're
not
putting
any
pylons
through
any
of
those
pipes
or
yeah.
A
A
K
This
may
be
for
mr.
chairman,
to
our
this
previous
discussion,
about
having
the
permitting
process
being
notified
to
the
row
commissioners
and
to
the
highway
department
at
the
issuance
of
these
permits,
to
mitigate
a
problem
that
we
just
recently
had
on
in
salina
township,
where
all
the
mud
and
everything
was
tracked
out
on
the
road
and
creating
a
traffic
hazard.
The
road
commissioner
didn't
know
anything
about
it
until
two
days
after
and
by
that
time,
many
cars
have
already
ran
over
18-inch
clumps
of
sod.
K
E
A
Because
when
when
the
staff
reports
go
out
and
they're
mailed
out
their
mail
out
to
just
about
everybody,
that
has
anything
to
do
with
anything
around
so
when
there
originally
happened
when
they
come
into
the
zoning,
we
have
many
cases
we
never
saw
in
the
highway
department
guys,
but
we
did
see
a
lot
of
Highway
Department
guys
too.
This.