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Planning, Zoning & Agriculture Committee Meeting 8/22/2018 9:00 AM

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We'll call this meeting of the planning zoning Agriculture meeting for August 22 to order roll call. Please.

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Old ha mr. Stauffenberg mr. trib mr. Washington mr. Tolin misspoke mr. Mulcahy mr. Hildebrand mr. Enfield mr. Peyton, miss Peters mr. Ritter mr. Kinzinger mr. Fairfield mr. wheeler. Mr. leer. We have a quorum.

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Okay, you received a copy, the July 18 minutes as there are any additions or Corrections. Oh I'm, sorry, I'm trying to move come on. We have four public comments and we have 15 minutes for that. So approximately four plus minutes for each comment, we'll start off with Cheryl Shane. Please, and would you use the microphone in the back there? Thank you good.

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Morning on August 6 2018, many residents of our community attended the Zoning Board of Appeals committee meeting. We asked questions and voiced our concern.

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Use me a minute: would you get close to the microphone because it doesn't pick up? Sorry there you go. Thank you.

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I'm speaking about zeebee a case number 1826 on August 6 2018, many residents of our community attended the Zoning Board of Appeals committee meeting. We asked questions and voiced our concerns and objections to a proposed special use permit for a solar farm at the southwest corner of 10,000, West, Road and 1,000.

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Due to its bucolic setting and simple pastoral views. Many of us have lived there for decades. Others are new to the community but also chose it. For the same reasons, we wanted a rustic area with a simpler lifestyle. None of us chose to live next to an industrial site with high chain-link fence and signage. This property is unique because it has resident properties surrounding it on all four sides: Kankakee County adopted the land, evaluation and site assessment on five eleven. Ninety three as an objective tool to evaluate property use and development.

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During the CBA committee meeting, the land, evaluation and site assessment Lisa was discussed at the CBA. The expert witness state of the Lisa score for this property was two thirty four point: six four: the guide guide guidelines listed in the Lisa standards a score of two thirty. Four point: six recognized as a high need for protection of the site. The Lisa guidelines state, selecting the site with the lowest total points, will generally protect the best farmland.

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Kankakee County has a strong agricultural history. We have witnessed acres of ground now being used for pipelines, wind farms and now solar firms. Why continue to remove agricultural land from crop and livestock production? Why not utilize vacant industrial sites? How many solar panels could be placed on the old, GNB and Roper sites? We are concerned about the increased truck traffic and the effect on our roads. We have witnessed the effect on the roads from the wind farm construction. We are concerned about the effect on the abundant wildlife in the area.

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We are worried about the effect on our pets and livestock, as their hearing is more acute. We are concerned about the effect on our property values. We question why a local realtor was not used to determine the effect on property values. The expert testimony from a realtor being paid by the solar company and unfamiliar with our area does not instill a vote of confidence from us. They are asking for a special use permit for the entire 80 acres, but planning to use 20 acres at the CBA.

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The solar company expert stated the leases can be sold to other companies that establishes a foot their footprint for future expansion. The panels are manufactured overseas. The CBA the solar company experts stated they were made primarily of silicon. Frequently. Rare metals are also used in the manufacturing for the panels to operate more efficiently at the CBA. We question how they plan to dispose of the panel's once decommissioned or if one gets damaged. The expert from the solar company stated they haven't decommissioned any as yet.

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We find it difficult to believe in their 38 years as a company that a panel has never been damaged during transit installation or use. Currently, no landfill or recycler will accept these. The expert stated they hope a plan will be in place. Eventually, that is not a viable or acceptable response. Has anyone been provided the material safety data sheets for these panels? This property sits on an artesian well and is close to two creeks. We all have wells. We hope the property order has a agricultural impact mitigation agreement in place for the liability involved.

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In closing, we believe the project would be detrimental to our quality of life on August 6 2018, the CBA recommended against granting the special use permit for this property. We pray the board follows the recommendations of its own committee and denies the special use permit. Thank.

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You very much Mike. What is your last name? Damps? Okay, thank you.

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Mike damps from bond field I'm here in regards to zba case 1826 by Borrego, solar I, want to start by saying this committee owes it to the residents that put them here to extend public comment, if need be because we all deserve to be heard. I find it unfair that Borrego gets another shot today to give you their sales pitch their presentation, along with the questions and answers from the residents where there was feedback required by Borrego as what should have taken place before this committee.

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Never, let me remind you, they receive no recommendation or a negative recommendation with a quorum present at the Zoning Board of Appeals they're, going to feed you lines that have been rehearsed through legal review and perfected. For months, they'll say: community engagement, their community engagement was a letter left in my screen door with a solar facility smaller than the one they are presenting today. They'll stay there in this because it's great for our community like they care. However, they stated their company build solar facilities and then sells them. They don't care about a community.

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They are chasing dollars at our expense. The subject property also has a high rate, at least a score of 220 plus. This is the highest for any locally proposed commercial solar facility. My wife and I purchased our house less than two years ago and considered the area in view as a reason for purchasing the property and would not have considered it if the front window looked out over an eight-foot, chain-link fence, industrial area.

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I disagree with Cohn Reznick SAP in ioan, on housing, values and I, say opinion, because appraisal is really nothing more than that they're, using the same presentation in same houses for comparison on multiple solar facility proposals by different companies, which shows how small the sample size is to justify their opinion. They are using houses in a neighborhood and trying to compare them to rural properties where we value the views that we have.

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If I looked out my windows in the neighborhood and saw houses on top of me and having a solar facility next door might not be bothersome. That isn't the case for our area, and then there is the noise it is compared to rustling leaves, which is a pleasant, sound. A constant hum will ruin the enjoyment that we currently have of being outside on our property with our children. If I followed you around the rest of the day and hummed in your ear quietly, it would still drive you crazy within a short time now.

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Imagine that for the next twenty five years every day, I find it ridiculous that Kankakee County does not have standard regulations in place to protect the residents from commercial solar companies, as other counties have implemented and similar to wind energy, which is most likely why all these facilities are being proposed in Kankakee County examples would be a setback requirement of 1500 feet from any residential property and after construction is completed, if any time, if at any time, energy is not produced and put on the grid for a period of more than six months, the site must be decommissioned at that time.

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Alright Don Kinsler.

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I'm also here about 1826 the CBA case number I just wanted to express support for what my neighbors were already said, but also I. Just don't think this is the best location. I think that's as good a reason as any to turn it down it's near a cluster of residences which isn't overly common in these rural areas. But here we have a street where it's one house after another, that's the end they're putting the farm on there's 80 acres there.

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If it's got to go there, if it's gonna be approved, it seems like there's got to be a better location either on that site or is was spoken at other defunct industrial sites. Would he be even better and also the hi Lisa score in his prime agricultural land? You know that hasn't been I. Think the case in many of the solar facilities, but just doesn't seem like this is a good look patien if it's gonna be voted for in spite of opposition from the residents.

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I would ask that the you know that the county makes sure that certain things are done, like the the screening and things like that that you get maintenance guarantees for say two years is common at the municipality that I work for to make sure that the screening goes up. We visited the Grand Ridge site. That was not the case there. All the screening they put in is gone. The people said it wasn't maintained. They mow there once a year.

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That's one of their complaints around that farm, the residences that are near there and also you know the transformer can be put in a building to perhaps cut down the noise again. This is just if it's approved, which I'm not you know for, but you know, if so, to help mitigate.

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You know the things in a building, maybe that cuts down on a lot on the noise wouldn't have to be an extensive building, perhaps but also I, know that Minnesota requires it and that there's a House bill, I, don't know if it was passed for Illinois to make it voluntary to use pollinator mix around solar facility sites. Perhaps that could be added in there. It's good for the wildlife things like that, and then also where the screenings going I would ask that we require a two foot berm under it.

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The drainage for a berm is nothing I'm. A civil engineer I mean that's easy to do. That would just raise up those trees that they're talking about another two feet and would not be a high impact, not a high expense.

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It's just moving dirt in Earth's work and not bad and then also, as Mike said, a greater setback than 100 or 150 feet that they're talking about so again, I am not in favor of it, but if it's going to be voted for, I would ask that you consider some of these things to help mitigate the impact to the residences. Thank you. Thank.

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You Kevin McRaven.

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Hello, my name's Kevin McRaven I'm, also here for the Bravo 1826 solar facility during her presentation, I was here for the joining Board of Appeals got to listen to their presentation. During that presentation he said that he went to 17 of the nearby houses that would be directly affected by this solar facility. He said out of the 17 10 houses he made contact with and he had no opposition from anybody. I did my homework. I went around. I would like to present you guys with a signed petition.

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I have 27 signatures on here by all the other farms that are surrounding the solar facility, and every single person was opposed to it. So if they were willing to lie about that when they're supposedly under oath, what else have they lied about?

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Would you like me to present this to you.

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Can you can give it to me.

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Okay, thank you.

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That's the end of your comments. Okay I want to thank all of you for remaining brief in getting underneath to 15 minutes that we allow appreciate it.

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Approval of minutes for giant teaming any additions or Corrections well to approve would be in order by mr. Washington second by mr. Hildebrand, all in favor, say aye opposed motion carried under building the building report.

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Submit for your approval, the monthly building division report for June 2018, we had issued a permit for one new home, seventy-three, total residential permits, six commercial permits, no industrial permits, and that would be for a total of twenty thousand six hundred. Fifty nine dollars in revenue collected.

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Compared comparative to last year, last year, at the same, in the same month, we had collected twenty five thousand seven hundred twenty-six dollars in revenue.

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Any questions motion to approve and be in order, but mr. Hildebrand seconded by mr. Peavey, all in favor, say aye opposed motion carried all right under still under building stormwater ms4 program discussion. Okay,.

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I am required by our stormwater ms4 program to ask the committee each month if they have any stormwater issues they would like to discuss. I can tell you that we are looking into one stormwater issue out in moments Township and we're working with the Health Department to possibly get either soil or water samples done.

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Seeing them going on to Zoning ex parte communication to committee, okay,.

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This is an opportunity for any board member to present or disclose any ex parte communications that they have had on any zoning cases over the past month.

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Seeing none going on to certified mail return receipt from immense mayor I.

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Believe mr. wheeler would like to.

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Yeah at our full board meeting we were I had done. I've had this pulled by Dell. This is the this is the return receipt when we send out registered mail, we get a return receipt which is part of our process when we have to notify people of solar farm or any other zoning hearing. That's upcoming. The moment's mayor came to the meeting and chastised the entire board called us liars and tell a liar for because he never received a letter and I wanted to show.

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The committee that it was signed bore for by his employee Lorie Schultz days are actually what how many days was it? Nine ten days before the.

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Like Jenny seven pitch here, that was June 25th.

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And he actually responded to the letter so.

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Know how he would have not gotten this letter, so I didn't appreciate the tone and the accusations of the mayor towards this. This body I would not do that in his chambers. I just want to let the committee and the board know and public know that we, the mayor, was notified in plenty of time for that area, plenty of time and within the law. Okay,.

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Thank you going on to Z be a case. 1824 request for rezoning from 12 general industrial district to egg a one agricultural district and a special use permit 121, 99 c 34 solar farm in the a1 agricultural district, a parcel generally situated in section 7 of kin-kee Township. Petitioners are yonke: Farms LLC, mr. Tim Janka, yonke and property owner and sole America energy applicant.

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Does the committee want a presentation I'm.

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Going to ask the committee this I'm the cases that are not.

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Have no objections? Do you want to go through the presentation or you want to prove no? What okay, then, in this case, where we have none.

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Can give the background and then we'll go on for the vote all right.

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Before you on this case is two different actions, one is a rezoning from I to general industrial to a-1 agriculture and the other is a special use permit for a 2 megawatt community, solar garden, solar farm. The location is on the map on the screen. It's located right at the end of River Road, at its intersection with route 45 on the yonke farm.

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During the hearing we have had one letter from the city of Kankakee that was received, June 20th, signed by Frank Caylor in term community development director letter asked the Zoning Board of Appeals delay the public hearing until the discussion could be had about annexation. To my knowledge, it's been over 30 days and that the city has still not contacted the developer about that discussion.

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Public comments, Joleen moss spoke but I believe she was speaking on the Irwin another case in Irwin. She lived several miles away and most of what she said had to do. With that case, tim Janka, the property owner, stated that the farm been in existence for over a hundred years and no one has contacted them concerning any industrial or commercial use of the property. During that time, mr. David Crawford who's a owns a billboard next door and is also an alderman for the city of Kankakee.

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Had questions about some easements that run through the property that his property with the Billboard is a beneficiary of and those were, the public comments. The.

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There's a site plan of it, I think see. The entrance would be just south of the motel on route 45. The solar panels would cover the majority of the site and the entire site would be subject to the landscape and weed control plan and would be maintained by the solar farm company, which is sole. America zba recommends the approval of both the rezoning and the special use permit for 2-0, but with conditions on the special use permit, the conditions being the ground cover shall be planted with native pollinator friendly species and to all required.

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Landscaping shall be subject to the maintenance requirements and penalties prescribed in the weed and grass control plan.

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Their motion to approve.

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Mr. Kinzinger, second by mr. fair for your, let me discussion questions.

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Thank You mr. chairman diem is that site have sewer all the utilities that would be appropriate for an industrially zoned property to.

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My knowledge it does. There is a sewer and water lines running down route, 45 it along the front of the property, and there is electric down through there as well, so it does have all of the urban type utilities in place. You also have a route. 45 is a four-lane road which is a truck route. The.

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City had no objection to the.

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City did not object. I do have a letter from the city, it should be in your packet, but I could read the letter.

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To a tide line, that's prime industrial commercial area for development, even though it hasn't been, but they.

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Did not object, they simply ask that it be postponed until they could discuss annexation, since annexation can occur at any time. Whether this is resumed or not. The Zoning Board felt that there was no need to delay their process.

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And there are easements that have to be protected right, correct, yeah,.

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And by law they will have to be so whether the developer, the solar farm developer, was aware of those easements or not at the time they design. This they're certainly going to have to take those into consideration for the final design. Okay,.

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Other questions mr. Spofford.

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Kind of a general question Dover: why are all the solar people's listed as property owners? Are they really property owners where.

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Are they like I, don't know where you're looking.

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In a statement here that we get property owner and.

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Yankee is the property owner and solar sole America energy is the applicant.

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Right but we are required since, since they're a it's, not an individual, we were required to give you the names of the actual.

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Who only soul, America, okay,.

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Okay, any other questions all in favor, say aye opposed motion carries all right going on to Z be a case. 1826 request for a special use, permit 121, 99 c 34, solar farm EA, one agricultural district, on a parcel generally situated in Section 10 of Pilot Township Tichenor zaire, Sharon H, Shiller, Ernest, L, Shiller, property owners and Borrego solar systems incorporated applicant.

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Before I get started on this one yesterday at about three o'clock, I received a correspondence from Greenberg Farrow, which is the engineering company for Borrego solar on this project. Asking that the committee send this back to Zoning Board of Appeals, because they do not feel they were.

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They were given a proper chance to a excuse me at rebuttal after public comment and would like to have more time to work with the residents and hopefully come up with a solution that is beneficial to all. So at this time the committee has a choice. They can either choose to send it back to the Zoning Board of Appeals, based on this letter, or we can move forward, as we normally would with a case.

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Is there a second by mr. Peyton any discussion she's made a motion to send it back to Z ba okay.

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This will go back to Z ba on September 24th. Only.

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After we vote on it, I'll excuse me, mr. Washington, do you have a comment? The property been had the proposition been rejected by, as of.

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Right now, yes,.

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Unanimous vote for.

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Tonight, four to one not unanimous, I.

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Don't see any purpose in sending it back any other discussion on favor sending it back to Z ba, say I posed.

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Roll call vote please. This is a motion to send it back to ZB mm-hmm.

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Mr. Olaf mr. Stauffenberg right mr. Washington misspoke.

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Mr. Hildebrand mr. Peyton miss Peters.

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There is a mistake on that. Mr. Kinzinger brought to my attention this morning that the I forgot to change granted to denied, but the vote is in there see what the load is. One two three four eyes to recommend denial. One day.

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Two were absent.

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Was to deny the motion was to look.

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Up so, but it says okay and.

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I'd like to change my emotion in the middle.

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All right, then, I'll open a.

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Motion: okay, mr. Kinzinger mr. Fairfield mr. wheeler.

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Can I remove my emotion then.

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Would be the other option to.

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It stands: okay,.

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So if we move forward just go.

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Without a motion to send without motion to send it back, it moves forward so really.

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Okay, they requested it be not approved right. So how do we agree with them on that zoning.

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Board well, if.

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You can we move it forward with they if.

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You I will go through the case now, if you do not want to send it back to Zoning. Board of Appeals will do just like. We did with the last case.

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This is a request for a special use. Permit, for a to meadow are three megawatt community solar garden. It's a little difference, a little larger on property at the southwest corner of 1,000, South Road and 1,000 West Road in Pilot Township, the property owners are Sharon and Ernest Schiller and the developer is parade. A beret go solar systems incorporated Zoning Board of Appeals hearing was held on August 6 2008 teen and the Zoning Board of Appeals recommends the denial of this proposal. Four to one. There were many surrounding property owners who spoke against this. Mr.

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Kevin McRaven Donnell Kinsler Mike, Sharyl, Shane and Sam Shane, the Zoning Board of Appeals based their decision on finding a fact number two they did not fit they are. They felt that the dislocation for the solar farm would be injurious to the use and enjoyment of other properties in the immediate vicinity, and we did have a very high ELISA score on this particular site. You look at the map up there. The red outlines the entire property. The blue would be the area where the solar farm would be located.

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Back from a the residential so on the north side and on the west side would be a hundred foot setback from the right away line anywhere. There's a home there would be a hundred foot setback anywhere. There's not a home would be a 50-foot setback, not a hundred foot setback from the road from.

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From from the property line from the property from from the property line, so this has a 100 foot setback at just about every direction except the Southwest. Mr. Kim's unit.

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Puts correct me: I may be wrong here: Thank You mr. chairman, but the property line in the center of the road in the county.

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A while, sometimes.

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Depends on how depends on how its divided, if it's a metes and bounds, split the sent the property line.

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Draw it that way is the center.

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Line well this, this is just a depiction. This does not take into consideration.

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We can go to the there's. The site plan shows all setbacks.

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The hundred-foot our ordinance says that if your property line goes to the center of the road, you add another 30 feet to that, so it would be 130 feet from the center of the road. Thank.

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100 feet from the right away line know right away line exists. You add 30 feet to it for an assumed right away.

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There's landscaping proposed for this also I.

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Do not believe so no I believe that they testified that they would consider it if required. Our ordinance does not require it and leaves it to the Zoning Board of Appeals to decide where and when it's warranted. But since they voted to deny a recommend denial, they did not recommend any conditions for this site, such as landscaping all right.

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Your presentation, that is what I have yes, is there a motion? Mr. Washington.

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And deny, is there a second second by mr. Fairfield any discussion?

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Or we could we can do a voice vote all in favor, say aye.

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All opposed motion denied okay, going on to GBA cakes, 1828 request for rezoning from r1 single-family residential district to a-1 agricultural district then especially used permit 121, 99 c 34 solar farm in the a1 agricultural district, on a parcel generally situated in section 27 and st. Anne Township petitioners, our James and Kathleen D group and Paul and Cynthia the group property owners and FFP Illinois community solar, LLC applicant, and there are no objections on this one. There.

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Were no objections, but I can do it, quick, okay, rundown of it if you'd like this is a this also has two requests. One is to rezone from r1 single-family residential to a-1, agriculture and the second one is a special use permit to allow the construction of a 2 megawatt community, solar garden at property located at the intersection of 8500 East Road and 5,000 South Road in st. Anne Township. The map on the screen shows the entire parcel I believe it's 20, five acres I, don't have that written down here.

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There's the site plan would be using me, I think. Yes, it's somewhere between 20 and 25 acres, the site plan. The solar farm would be using the entire parcel as drawn on the preliminary site plan on the screen. Their Zoning Board of Appeals voted 7 to 0 to approve both the rezoning and the special use permit with conditions.

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Zondra, cohan and adjoining property owner did speak at the public hearing, but did not object to the to the action. Just had questions about how that would how the trees in the area would affect it, and she also stated that she really liked the idea of the security fence around it.

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The conditions are the standard conditions that they have been placing there's only what has been placing on all, especially our solar farm special use permits, one the ground cover shall be planted with native pollinator friendly species and two all required. Landscaping shall be subject to the maintenance requirements and penalties prescribed in the weed and grants control plan.

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Their motion motion mr. Kenzie approved second mr. Washington. Any discussion on favor, say: aye I posed motion carried going on Z bak 1829 request for rezoning from a run agricultural district to reroute, a state's district and a variance to section 121 149 D lot size on a parcel generally situated in section 15 of Essex Township. Petitioners are Timothy and Caitlin Wilkerson property owner in Africa.

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Changes up a bit: this is not a solar farm.

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Okay, this is a request for rezoning from a1 agriculture to re rural estate. On a point, five six acre parcel located at 15 nine. Seventy seven West three thousand North Road in Essex Township.

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The parcel contains one single family home in a shed. They were divided off of the farm parcel back in 1986 the Wilkerson's came in and as they were getting ready to sell the property and wanted to know if it was properly zoned. Unfortunately, it did not meet our ordinance in 1986, which, in the a one district required them to have two acres and 250 feet of frontage. They did not do this, they bought they bought it after the fact, in fact, they've only owned it about two or three years themselves.

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So to correct that situation, we recommended that they rezone it to rural estate, which would be the appropriate zoning district for a part, a residential parcel in that area. But since it does not have the one acre minimum that is required in the rural estate district they're also asking for a variance for lot size.

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Zoning Board of Appeals heard the case and voted five to zero to recommend approval on both the rezoning and the variance. There was no public comment, no objection.

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Their motion to approve mr. Washington second by mr. Stauffenberg, any discussion on favor, say aye aye opposed motion carries going on zeebee a case 1830 request for a special use, permit 120, 1-99 c 34 solar farm in the a1 agricultural district, on a parcel generally situated in section 30 of Otto Township. Petitioners are Frank: L bar berry and Jerome Barbieri property owners and solar provider group Illinois, LLC bur, Creek, community, solar applicant.

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This is a request for a special use permit for a 2 megawatt, so community, solar garden known as Burke Creek, community solar, it's along the south side of Illinois Route 115, just northwest of the village of erlin. You can see on the map on the screen there. Everything in yellow is the village of a win. The red outline is the subject property at twenty point: six, six acre site. As I said it does fall within 1.5 miles of the village of Irwin. However, the village of Earl into our knowledge does not have a comprehensive plan.

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Again many neighboring property owners spoke out against this proposal.

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There's the site plan for it, it would encompass the entire site and the Zoning Board of Appeals voted four to zero. To deny the special use permit on this property.

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Can look that up for you, while I'm doing that the Zoning Board of Appeals also referred to finding a fact number two, that the homes were too close and that it would affect the enjoyment of those properties.

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Want to take questions or something.

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198, which is a low rating for farmland, protection, okay,.

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Is there a second second by mr. Kinzinger any discussion all in favor, say aye opposed carry.

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Going on CB a case, 1831 requests are special use, permit 121, 99 c 34, solar farm in the area; agricultural district from parcel generally situated and section 12 of Norton Township, the petitioners, our gross cross, family farm LLC, property owners and solar provider groups, Illinois LLC granary, Creek, one community, solar applicant.

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Apologize for that this case is a little bit different. This is a request for a special use permit for a community solar garden, but this one is only 720 kilowatts, not the two megawatts you're normally used to seeing, and it's only on 4.5 acres that would be used of the 40 acre site. So it's a very small solar farm.

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Zoning Board of Appeals, let's see, there's the there's how it would look. The closest neighbor is a cemetery that little green area down there in the corner. It is a small Cemetery, Zoning Board of Appeals voted 4 to 0 to approve with conditions the same standard conditions we've been using. There was a fair amount of public comment about it, which is in your packet under public comments. Bern grouse is the property owner. It was in favor of the project thought it was a great idea.

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John furnace was about a half a mile north of the project believes he will be surrounded by solar farms and had some questions about a road use agreement. He also stated he was against the project. Amy Martin, I neighbor, a property owner said she had grandkids that will climb the fence and that she does not wish to live there anymore, Gerald Schmitt, a representative, the adjoining property owner stated his mother owns the farm land east of the project and that he has concerns about the heat generated from a solar farm.

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He also has concerns about drainage tiles and how they would be repaired if damaged. This was addressed at the hearing and I believe it was stated that they must repair any tiles that would be damaged. Merrill with EFT a property owner is about a half a mile southeast of the project stated there was a right in the wrong way to do things and that this was not the right way asked about the racking system.

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How deep it went in the ground question the reflected glare factors and was told that involved an old style of panel, which is not used anymore. He asked how glare would affect his neighbors also asked. If anything the piles were coated with further stayed. There was a little good water in the area and that the property had a high water table. He also questioned the drainage of the site and the repair of drainage tiles.

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If damaged question electromagnetic field, acid, the site would be returned to farmland and how the solar farm would be connected to the grid. Those questions were addressed with the decommissioning plan, and the applicant did state how it would be connected into the grid, which is right at the road in front of it he's up. His final statement was: they hope we are not selling out our grandchildren for immediate benefits and that this project takes good farmland out of production Glenda for NS a prop round. There also lives a half mile north of the project.

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Ask questions about other projects. The company has completed and asked what was the longest existing project that they have an operation their representative stated three years.

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So let me look at the luksus core, because I'm sure that question is coming and the Lisa score on this one is 218 which puts it at a medium I. Believe it yeah anything under to hundreds of low believe 200 to 225 is a medium class for and the Zoning Board automobiles recommend Zoning Board of Appeals recommended approval for 2-0.

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Is there a motion, mr. Washington, second, by mr. Kinzinger, any discussion, miss Peters.

K

Thank You mr. chairman I was wondering it's four point: five acres, but what would be the procedure for them if they wanted to do more, would they have to bring it back to Z ba to get approval for that, or could they just keep expanding on that acreage? No.

H

The special use permit is for this particular site, this particular megawatts. Okay,.

C

H

They would it can make some adjustments within that four point: five acres as they go through their final engineering and design work, but they cannot expand it across the entire property without coming back for another special use. Permit. Thank.

K

A

On favor, say: aye.

A

Going on to z, ba case 18 33 request for a special use, permit 121, 99 c 34 solar farm in the aim of an agricultural district on a parcel generally situated in section 36 of Rockville Township petitioners, our sunshine, limited partnership, property owner and McKee solar LLC applicant.

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H

Is also a request for a special use permit for a two megawatt community, solar garden property is located at the intersection of Career, Center Road and 6000 North Road right adjacent to it is the ComEd substation out in Rockville, Township, I'm, pretty sure, you're all aware of the site plan.

H

This is a 80 acre site, but they would only be using the northwest corner pushed back all the way into the closest to the substation Zoning Board of Appeals voted five to zero to recommend granting the special use permit with the same standard conditions that that they have been using. There were no public comments, including from any from the village of Breck. Bourbonnais I did contact their administrator and he said stated they had no issues with the project.

A

Their emotions mr. wheeler, to approve second, it.

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Hildebrand any discussion on favor, say: aye aye opposed motion carries GBA cakes, 18-34 requests are especially use, permit, 121, 99 c 34 solar farm in the area; agricultural district, on a parcel generally situated in section 34. A manteno Township. Petitioners are sunshine: limited partnership, property owner and Nostrum solar LLC applicant.

H

This is also a request for a special use permit on a 2 megawatt community solar garden facility, this one's known as Nostrand solar, it's located at the other end of 6000 North Road, where it intersects with 2000 East Road or you may know that is Cardinal Drive, it's directly across from the quarry it. The property is the blue area there, which is a hundred and some-odd acres, I, have that written here and the project would be down in the lower southwest corner of it.

H

The applicant after filing their application realized that there could be a situation where 6000 Road would be extended through the property and have voluntarily moved the entire site north. To accommodate. For that mark, do you remember how far north you moved it 150 feet.

N

The right-of-way that you would need to roadway there plus it will set that possible.

H

N

H

We received a letter from the village of manteno in support of the project and this does fall within their width in their planning boundary. The planning boundary between the village of manteno and the village of bradley is six thousand North Road in that area. The village of bradley, katherine gorge, now ski, I believes how you pronounce her name, did speak at the public hearing and voiced concerns about it. I do not recall whether she actually there was no formal objection and we have not received a formal objection from the village of bradley on this.

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H

Always, oh there's the site plan. Now that's the site plan before modifications were made for six thousand row.

A

Mr Lesage mentioned about the drainage outlet for the quarry, which is a 36 inch tile, that water gets pumped to to keep the quarry drained, and he believes it goes through this property and that would have to be taken into consideration when you're putting that down. Because that's a huge tile.

H

Absolutely and the site plan may have to be adjusted if it is determined it's on this property. You.

A

Said that the southern boundary was raised to allow for the easement for yeah.

A

That the site plan was moved north, but the North Lange was not adjusted so you're dealing with lip lower acreage in.

N

Well, in the end, you could look at, however, you'd like to because remember that our engineering plan is conceptual. What we've indicated is that, within the area we've requested approval on, we would ensure that the project site was moved up, that I posited.

F

I believe 130 feet.

N

North there, so essentially, we always you'll notice that our site plans tend to have a little bit a slightly smaller acreage number, really larger acreage number on them and that's to make sure we have the ability to adjust both for that and, as you said, to the drain tile with the engineers his.

A

Road, six thousand four lanes coming up to the route 50.

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H

Just it goes down to two lanes before you get to Cardinal Drive yeah, four lanes across route, 50.

A

All right, that's because it was four lanes that had made greater adjustments if that was the plan, but it's not the.

H

Letter from the village of manteno indicates that you agreed to a hundred and thirty-three feet great.

N

A

Any other questions miss Peters. Thank.

K

A

Got your switch on all the time.

K

Is there a plan on opening up a road on 6,000 right now? There's it.

H

Is nothing more than talk, Everest, there's.

K

H

There's a few plans on paper there's we could never say we cannot say when or where or if it would ever occur, because.

K

I'm looking at on 3000 s, Road is the diversitech campus and those trucks may come up 3000 instead of going through manteno, and so that would be probably for an access. Or did they look at? Let's see that's six, seven thousand Road. Is there any plan for seven thousand road to move that traffic from diversitech South to use that interchange, the new interchange, I.

H

Recall the last time this was discussed was very early on during the in Liana expressway discussions when the Illiana might have very well been at 6,000 road, and there was discussions about taking 6000 all the way acrost 265 there's not in the last five or six years. There's been no discussion about extending 6000 Road, but it's certainly a possibility, as the metropolitan area expands out, that that road would be needed and I think to get try truck traffic from diversitech directly to the interstate would be great.

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H

By preserving that right away now would be a good thing whether it's used or not, I can't say there there's no official plan or and there's certainly no project. That's been programmed to do that. Okay,.

K

H

Is the money's not there right, creo que what.

K

Would I need to do to preserve that and because I would like to see the traffic go? You know south instead of through manteno to the new interchange, the.

H

Regional Planning Commission has the power to preserve a right-of-way for a future roadway. I do not know all the ins and outs and legal aspects of that, but they do have that. That's one of the powers that the Planning Commission does have so that they can. So we could take that before them. I think we have to have a more solidified plan. First, okay,.

K

So if it passes here, it would still need to pass no.

H

All your all you are looking at here is these special use permit for the solar farm which they have allowed. Okay,.

F

H

Have given a larger setback so that if we would like to buy that right away later or use that or right away, we would not have to move their solar farm or buy their solar farm out. It's just preserving the ground right now, okay from obstructions thank.

K

A

Mr. Washington trying to clarify this, are you saying that you're willing to accept a reduction.

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L

N

And, and by the way we can put it either way you'd like to in our mind what we've said is that we will set back our project 133 feet from the centerline of what would have been the continued it's actually from the property line, but would also be the center line of the road with who was there?

N

It's not there's really no need to change the project area, because once we put that setback in it's no different. If then, if you made your standard setback 133 instead of 100.

A

N

Still the same and our goal, Adelbert said it better than I can, but the our goal was really when this was brought to our attention by both the county staff and by the mayor of manteno. Are we agree with them? Look who knows if this road will ever happen? This group will have much more involvement of that than any of us will, but we didn't want to put in a situation that would create problems when you did that the future, so it was a simple thing to move it.

N

Give you guys flexibility, whether you go the road or not, is certainly not our our parade. Thank you.

A

Mr. Kiner, here I was.

L

Going to Indiana Thank You mr. chairman I was going to Indiana here month or two ago. I was going to Indiana a month or two ago, I think it's on 114 and went right by a solar farm on a two line: road chain-link fence right up to about the height of market.

L

Nobody seems to mention, but there's a lot of property there, that influx like future 6,000 Road and not that I want the developer to spend money now, but take consideration in that south frontage, 6,000 Road in terms of giving a little architectural appeal or landscaping appeal like a burn. There's one person suggested or some type of landscaping, but somebody needs to look at that if they extend 6,000 Road. That way, there's a good reason: it'll be traffic.

H

You would like to put a condition on the approval that they landscape, that end of the I.

L

Don't want to spend money now. Is there a way to do that if it happens.

H

L

Know, there's no you spending money, you don't have to spend.

H

The condition could say that landscaping would be required if 6,000 Road were to be built at that location and we'd have to ask the developer if they would have any objection to that condition. But.

L

Well, that'd be their choice. We could.

H

L

What we wanted, yes.

A

I

Would like to make that motion, as mr. Kinzinger is laid out, motion to approve with that stipulation that if the road is ever built, then the developer would provide adequate landscape cover, as they have on all.

A

The other properties is there a second.

I

Subject to the same requirements that, if it dies they have to replant it all the.

H

Other conditions, as as presented.

A

Legal with a policy a second to that motion by mr. Payton. Now any discussion, I've got a question this thirty-six inch tile I was talking about. Do you know where that is we.

N

Did not bring our engineers here for the meeting, but again we address those and final engineering. We're aware we appreciate those pointed out and there's no question as Delbert says it's our job to address that I'm.

A

Guessing, as you can see, that waterway right.

M

I was guessing.

A

It's in that waterway, so.

M

Scott Novak Cypress, Creek renewables. We do have an idea of where it is in that lower southwest corner of our of the parcel and and that's another thing actually that moving that southern fence line.

D

Out would illuminate, but it would avoid.

M

The tile sitting yeah- that is something that we've we've got our thumb on already. Okay, can.

N

I ask for a quick clarification on the amendment for the plan. We're talking about I, assume the sort of standard double row of evergreen trees that we put in along they're. Putting in a berm really impacts our farmer. If he wants to farm his property in the south, that would be 130 feet off the highway, essentially having sort of steady, we want to make sure it's landscape, not a berm I.

H

Believe that's what we were talking about is my.

I

H

I, don't know what standard tree plantings that I don't know what kind sorry.

M

We just we were chatting and we didn't hear mr. wheelers, oh god, I just wanted to. I hear what the language was. I'm.

A

Not sure what the farmer, what with the planner he has, but if it's a 24 row it's a 60 foot wide planners and one round would be 120 feet. So just so.

N

You're 133 works very well and I'm, not sure we were right enough to have known that what we did. Okay, okay, we appreciate.

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H

Lisa score on this property was one. Eighty five point, one which is a low rating for farmland, protection. I, know.

A

The rock is high there, but I mean I, don't know over ty in that specific location, but there's a quarry next to it, which tells.

I

You, the road, okay,.

A

We have a motion and a second mr. Washington. We have a motion in a second to approve all in favor, say aye aye opposed motion carried. Thank you going on to Z bak 1835 request for a special use, permit 120, 1-99 community residential home in the a1 agricultural district, on a partial generally situated in section 24 of moments: Township petitioner, our jav D Illinois, LLC, series conservation and gonna noise series, LLC property owner and Garden of Prayer applicant.

H

This is a request for a special use permit for a community residential home at 16, 601 east state route, 114 in moments. Township, the property is shown on the screen there. The entire property is in the red boundary. They are leasing a five acre area, it's not being divided but leasing. A five acre, five acre area with a pole, barn and a home at the lower and near route 114.

H

This would be a community residential home for young men between the eight teen males, I believe, while they their permits, could allow up to ten they were going to have between six and eight at any given time at this location.

H

This is just down the street from the main Garden of Prayer Youth Center facility, which is just to the south side of the road and probably about a quarter mile west of here, Zoning Board of Appeals heard this case and all the testimony there were no objectors and they voted seven to zero to recommend the approval of especially used from it.

A

And there was, there was a favorable mentioned by the owner of the property.

F

H

Owner of the property was not at the public hearing. There was no mention.

A

J

Moved for a motion for approval, Garden of Prayer has served this community well in my years in Kankakee County. Mr.

A

Washington, okay, any discussion.

A

I

Just just for the record, this is the owner of the company that I am on the management board of or the team of owns this property. It's not the company, so I can vote. There is no financial, tire and I just wanted on the record, or somebody's may say that my vote was compromised, it's not as for the property and it's not for the company. Okay, thank.

H

You I should probably add that at this time, gardener prayer is not planted, make any modifications to the buildings and they are adequate for their purposes. Now,.

A

All right, any other discussion, all in favor, say aye opposed motion carried going on 1836 requests, GBA case 18 36 requests are special use, permit 120, 1-99 c 34 solar farm in a1 agricultural district on a parcel generally situated in section one zero, one of Pilot Township. Petitioners are kojiki because C job, what is it? Casita, casita living Trust property owner and Erwin solar LLC applicant? This.

H

Is another special use permit request for a two megawatt community, solar garden, this one's known as a wind, solar farm properties located on South 8000, West Road in Section 1, a pilot Township just about three-quarters of a mile south of route 17? If you look on the map there, the entire property is outlined in red. The location of the solar farm is in blue to be utilizing about 20.7 acres of the twenty five point. Three five acre parcel the land across the road is zoned I to industrial. The.

H

If you see that loop there, that is the the grain shuttle facility that.

A

Eastern Eastern.

H

Illinois grain shuttle facility there, the property, is kind of a horseshoe shape. Miss casita also owns the one in the middle, where the pond is on. There's the site plan for the for the facility. There will be landscaping along the southern edge where the where the few homes are the entrance will be also on the southeast corner.

H

Cba recommends the approval seven to zero with the same standard conditions. There was no public comment and there was no objection.

A

Is there a motion to approve mr. Stromberg seconded by mr. Hildebrand any discussion seeing none all in favor, say: aye opposed motion carried Wow under transportation, show bus section, 51, 53, 11, grant agreement fiscal year, 2019 five thousand six.

H

All righty Jeffrey could not be here today, so I told him I would take over for him, so bear with me. I may not be as quite as knowledgeable as he is on some of this last fall. We submitted the inner city bus grant, application to I dot for service from moments' to the Greyhound, stop in Kankakee and two bus shelters, one in Sun, River, Terrace and one in moments'. This grant will have no local match coming from the county, and all funds are state and federal.

H

I dot has sent us two agreements for the grant: one agreement for providing service between moments and greyhound expanding the current moments, commuter route, fourteen thousand, six hundred, eighty four dollars and thirty cents in federal funds. Ten thousand five hundred ninety four dollars and seventy cents in state funds, and the other agreement is to install the two bus shelters at a cost of sixteen thousand dollars in state funds. So we're asking today for permission for the Chairman to sign these agreements. Motion.

A

By mr. Peyton to approve second by mr. Kinzinger, no and you and your have a question I.

L

Read both these resolutions and am somewhat confused, was section one in both of them, not certain I I think you said: there's no cost to the county, and yet it talks about offsetting our costs and deficits and capital costs of Kankakee County. So the the summary of all this is it isn't going to cost the taxpayers locally other than taxpayers stayed and nationally to take this grant current.

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L

H

There's no local money, there's no local match, okay, but all of us, as taxpayers, will be paying for this.

A

Says we need roll call for this.

J

Any time frame on how long to take this project to be approved.

H

I, do not have that in front of Laura. Is here I think she was here, I, don't know if she has an answer to that. I.

H

Can tell you the location of the bus shelters has not been determined, yet we still have to discuss that with both municipalities.

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O

Location hasn't been determined, we'll work with on River Terrace mo man to see where that, where they would wish those shelters to be located. But it's been discussed for years. The extension down to Greyhound would be a very easy revision of and already existing route, so really we're only waiting for the contracts to come through with signature, and then we can begin working on the projects.

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A

To the mic, please, both of you closer to the baby I.

J

Asked my question was: was that anything she needed from the village of some River Terrace in particular, to move the shelter forward.

O

Well, certainly, an agreement of where to locate it I if I knew a way to speed up the state signatures. I would do it. Hopefully that will happen soon.

L

Thank You mr. chairman I, may have a concern and would like to abstain from voting on this and there there there could be a I'm, not certain how this all interrelates, but we've been a project for the bus place, putting some concrete work in and making stuff a DA approved and I'm, not certain. If this is part of that or not that.

H

Would be the Metro bus shelters.

L

H

Completely separate.

L

Phone there's also.

H

Mr. chairman, this is two different actions on the on the agenda. There's the it's to agreements, but each one has separate action, so there should be separate voice. This.

A

Is for the first once item 553 11? Okay, any other discussion who.

I

Determine is it solely up to the municipality where these shelters go or is there any input that we have? We.

H

Have input there would be a mutual agreement, but it's my understanding, though, that the municipalities would be basically donating the site. It would be on public land within the municipality okay, so they would have. There is some limits as to where would you go sure.

I

What the only reason I mentioned that is, is because a lot of the employers in moments, especially- and we know where the ridership drops off there I- would hate to see the donation be downtown when it's really the most of the users are going to the right for employment purposes, the specific area. So that's why I asked.

H

Yeah I believe I believe we have to have those discussions of where the best place is going to be, but okay, I I think we have just as much say in the matter as the village II does. Thank.

A

You, okay roll call vote. Please.

C

Mr. Steinberg mr. Washington misspoke mr. Hildebrand mr. Paden.

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C

Peters mr. Kinzinger mr. Fairfield mr. wheeler.

A

Going on to the next one, the show bus capital assistant grant agreement.

A

Motion to approve mr. Washington seconded by mr. Peyton any questions all in favor say: aye Oh.

C

Mr. roll talk mr. Rothenberg mr. Washington miss Howe mr. Hildebrand mr. Paden, miss Peters mr. Kinzinger mr. Fairfield. Mr. wheeler is.

A

There, a rural transit update.

H

There is we'll try to be quick about it here. Fourth quarter for 2018 for rural transit, update, total number of trips is eight thousand eight hundred and sixty six, which is an 8% increase over last year's. Fourth quarter.

H

Demand response had four thousand two hundred sixty six trips, which is a four percent increase over last year's cored Florida. Fourth quarter. Excuse me: Momence commuter had 4,600 trips or I believe those are right and all that strips nevermind, a 12 percent increase over last year and overall trips for FY 2018, has been thirty, six thousand seven hundred four, which is a 21% percent increase over last year. So it sounds like the program is successful. Direct demand response had 17,000 767 trips, a 19% increase over last year and last year for managed care organization.

H

Trips molinsky meter had 18,000 937 for the year so far and a 23% increase over last year. We believe the increase is likely due to more work trips in moments.

A

Just curious: are there any complaints, except for Laura.

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H

Microphone microphone. Please sorry. I.

O

Been one complaint, but that might have been in another County nevermind.

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C

A

Okay, robust branding chairman mister.

H

I

You this is something that I don't know for the better part of four four to six years. I've been it's been working me that that I guess it's more lately than it was in the past, now that we do actually fund money out of the general fund into this endeavor, which obviously it's working for a lot of employees and employers and different parts of the county, but the the brand of show bus.

I

It is really the Kankakee County rural transit system and and I think the public is missing an opportunity to realize that that we do this and and it's something that's kind of bothered me and I know: there's a cost to rebranding and logos on buses, and things like that. But I would like to ask this committee if we can at least go down the road of knowing what it would cost to rebrand those buses to a to be determined name whatever. If that is what we wanted to do, you know there's obviously there's other considerations.

I

There are other townships that contribute to this, but it is the Kankakee transit systems or what, though, counting train system so I think we're missing an opportunity in the public's missed an opportunity. You know who's really behind this and the efforts out of the planning department, gonna.

A

Be the adding of a sticker that says Yankee County, Transit I'd wanted to replace, show bus.

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H

Even want to remove show bus, yes, yeah I, don't.

I

Mind if that's on the bottom I'm the the back of it or something, but the brand is Kankakee, County, okay, and so that's why I'm just want to throw it to the committee to just say: hey investigate what the cost is talk to Laura about what that means for for show bus in general, because I know there was at one time. I had heard something along the lines. Well, what if we have to pull that bus into another County to use it there.

H

Is some sharing right that occurs between counties and the buses? If you ever see the green ones are ours, the blue ones belong to someone else, but they do share them some. It would be my recommendation that, yes, we open this up for discussion and we know all the facts before we make a full decision, because there is cost involved, there could be I, don't know if there'd be liability, issues or not I know show bus ensures all the buses for us.

H

So if their name's not on it I, don't know if that makes a difference. There's some there's some considerations and, of course there is cost involved and.

I

I would think our lifetime umbrella covers us as well, because.

H

I

To be damned as it also insured or something like that, so I.

H

Would rather come back with all the facts exactly to the committee before we make a dismal.

I

Ike, do you want us to look into this because I feel I'm stronger, I feel stronger about it today than I ever have yes,.

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A

Right is there a motion to that effect by mr. Kinzinger second by mr. Washington on favor, say aye motion carried.

I

Now yet, let's just move ahead type thing: okay,.

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H

Will sign that to Jeffrey of.

I

Course, any old business he's not here, that's what he can say.

A

I'm not seeing no old business under new business, one opening on the Kankakee County Zoning Board of Appeals, two openings on the Kankakee County, mmm that's what it says: zba I.

H

Have no one that stepped down as someone not reapplied, maybe how I feel look into.

A

That two openings on a Kankakee County Historic, Preservation Commission and six openings and the Kenton County Regional Planning Commission I- have.

I

Sorry, I missed old business, new business.

A

I

Was mentioned, I know, I was given Lisa's score. I have a question about that. How? How is that relevant in the discussion of our decision-making process on zoning of reciting of approving, especially used for a solar farm, because I guess the reason I asked that question is. It seems to me it's extraneous to the rights of the property owner to make a decision what to do with their own farmland.

I

If we're talking about Lisa scores, it means that we feel we have the opportunity to say we don't want you to use that farm for anything else, but farming, because that ground is too good and I. Think that we're treading on delicate turf, no pun intended.

A

Then you wouldn't have subdivisions, it's.

H

Just a tool for the you to use one more piece of information in your decision-making process. It should not be the only thing you look at there's two parts of the Lisa score: Lisa is land evaluation, site assessment score, there's the land assessment side of it. That's where the soil types, the productivity has looked at, that's part of the score, and then you have the site assessment which, like in the cases of solar farms, really doesn't apply to them.

H

And I have said this before, because the site assessment looks at proximity to a municipality, is sewer and water available. Are the roads adequate all the things that a solar farm doesn't need? So it doesn't matter to that, but the the land assessment does, because we want to try to protect our farmland and we want to try not to take the best farmland out of production Mike. Well, that's what.

I

Right, do we have to compose that upon the landowner they make we're, not siding. So we're not saying we want to put a solar farm there. It's the landowner says they want to do that, correct so by us imposing a leases, score criterion, or at least filtering it through that lens. It seems to me that it's almost prejudicial to the rights of the landowner I'm, just throwing it out there because we've been going through it, it's nice to know, but really does that kind of distract us from what our mission is, how.

H

Much weight the committees give to that is up to those individuals on those committees. You do not have to it's a piece of information to help. You make a decision. It's it's not you're, not bound that if it's a highscore that you must preserve it, but the my understanding, the County Board I think is about 96, approved the Lisa program and and the score. So, if you wouldn't, if you would no longer want to use it you you can certainly rescind what you did in 1996.

H

I

We approve it for this person, with this particular use for all.

H

Zoning case for all zoning case and land zoning case I believe subdivisions any time in a land. That's why we, you don't do them for everything if the land is changing, if it's not being farmed now you don't do a lisa score only if it's already being farmed, if it's, if you're taking land out of production, then we're supposed to do a Lisa score on it.

A

I think private property rights are paramount to other issues and I think they should take any other issues should take a second place to private property rights because it's always been held as sacrosanct I.

H

Mean it's all: it's all part of the tapestry of information that you are going to consider on these cases.

H

Property rights is certainly one of them, but just because the property owner wants to do it doesn't necessarily make it a great thing to do and may affect the property rights of other surrounding them, and that's what you're really trying to do with zoning is weighing the property owners, property right versus the neighbors property rights versus the public's rights, to make sure that none of them are harmed and it's a balancing act between all of them, because we must always remember that developer has rights that property owner has rights.

H

The adjoining property owners also have rights, and the public in general has rights it's best not to step on any of those in a perfect world. You wouldn't.

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A

Thank you any other new business motion to adjourn to be in order. Miss Peters seconded by Ms, polke on favor, say aye opposed motion carries. Thank you.