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Planning, Zoning & Agriculture Committee Meeting 9/19/2018 9:00 AM
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B
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Never
till
11:30,
563,
North,
Vincennes
trail
and
moments
Illinois,
so
next,
pretty
close
to
right
in
the
proximity
of
where
they
were
wanting
to
put
the
solar
farm
I
won't
try
to
take
up
too
much
of
the
board's
time.
The
mayor
wanted
to
be
here
today,
but
he
couldn't
because
of
other
obligations
from
the
city
of
moments'.
He
would
have
been
here
to
show
his
objection
to
the
solar
farm.
C
One
thing
that
he
brought
up
to
the
CBA
meeting
that
the
meeting
that
they
had
on
Monday
night
at
the
City
Council
meeting
was
that
they
were
actually
meeting
with
Baxter
and
Woodman,
who
has
done
the
comprehensive
plan
for
the
city
and
does
their
planning
and
the
city
of
moments'
from
what
they're
trying
to
or
they're
looking
into
and
I
know.
This
has
just
come
about.
C
Is
that
they're
going
to
need
another
place
for
a
well
placement,
their
Southside
and
everything
they're
having
problems
with
sulfur
and
all
and
this
property,
not
the
immediate
property,
but
in
that
vicinity
in
moments',
they're,
looking
to
drill
test
wells
there
for
water,
a
water
source
for
city
itself
and
they're,
also
discussing
taking
from
the
railroad
tracks
from
moments,
which
is
where
the
city
limit
stops
and
the
water
and
sewer
goes
there
possibly
talking.
There
are
in
talks
with
extending
that
out
into
that
area
where
this
is
proposed
in
the
residential
area.
C
Another
thing
that
they
are
going
to
discuss
with
Baxter
and
Woodman
they're
wondering
if
there
was
a
mistake
made
on
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
and
the
mapping,
because
the
mayor
that
this
is
a
new
mayor
since
that
was
done
in
2010.
The
comprehensive
plan
followed
pretty
much.
What
County
had
is
their
comprehensive
plan
for
that
area.
They're
wondering
if
there
was
a
mistake
made
because
the
left
hand
side
on
Vincennes
trail
is
residential.
C
If
that
was
a
mistake
and
if
it
should
be
or
could
be
changed,
I
took
in
presented
well
when
we
went
to
the
CBA
meeting
the
other
night,
the
board
itself
went
through
the
the
findings
and
facts
for
the
turning
it
from
residential
are
from
yeah
residential
into
AG.
They
went
lined
by
lighting
forward
that
items.
They
did
not
go
bind
by
item
for
the
special
use
permit
for
the
finding
and
facts
if
they
would
have
went
by
that
and
took
into
consideration
aid
for
the
special
use.
C
Permit
explain
how
the
established
maintenance
or
operation
the
special
use
will
not
be
detrimental
to
the
endanger
the
public,
health
safety
or
moral
comforts
in
general
welfare.
There's
one
thing,
I
checked
too,
and
I
think
that
they
need
to
take.
We
need
to
take
into
consideration
and
I'm.
Sorry
I
was
in
a
rush
today
and
I
forgot
to
bring
the
paperwork
that
I
had
North
Carolina
is
finding
that
they
have
with
these
solar
farms
the
contaminants
that
inside
they
call
it.
They
call
it
Generation,
X
chemicals
and
North
Carolina
around
their
solar
farms.
C
Right
now
and
there's
a
study
being
put
out
and
they've
done,
the
research
and
they're
finding
these
contaminants
in
the
groundwater
around
these
solar
farms
and
these
solar
farms.
These
solar
panels
are
made
up
with
the
compounds
that
make
up
Generation,
X
chemicals
I
didn't
bring
that
with
me.
I
was
in
too
much
of
Russia
and
couldn't
grab
my
packet,
so
that
would
basically
give
the
board's
a
reason
to
turn
this
down
for
the
explanation
on
a
explanation.
C
These
solar
farms
have
come
up
with
and
I
presented
to
the
CBA
how
they
did
to
diminish
the
the
property
values
they're
expert
come
up
and
was
able
to
I
showed
the
property
values
and
some
of
the
assessed
sites.
The
only
thing
that
their
Cohn
Reznick
could
dispute
was
a
few
of
the
assessed
values.
I
had
plenty
of
houses
there
that
pre
solar
farms
sold
for
one
price
after
the
solar
farms
came
in.
C
Immediate
vicinity
already
permitted
and
substantially
diminished
and
impair
the
property
values
of
the
neighborhood
in
Juris
or
the
enjoyment
I
have
to
sit
and
look
at
this
thing
and
my
neighbors
the
same
thing
for
the
next
20
years,
I
didn't
buy
my
house
and
put
all
the
money
into
this
to
sit
there
and
look
at
a
solar
farm.
We
have
a
beautiful
view
out
there.
It's
gonna
diminish
my
enjoyment
of
the
place
that
we
put
the
money
into
it's
like
they
stated
in
Bonfield
when
they
were
over
there.
C
If
you
took
my
house
exactly
this
way
and
the
view
that
I
have
and
move
it
one
and
a
half
miles
away,
they'll
have
the
exact
same
view
as
what
I
have
which
house
is
going
to
sell
faster.
It's
going
to
be
the
one:
that's
not
next
to
the
solar
farm
I'm
asking
you
to
basically
turn
this
proposal
down
for
it,
those
two
facts
for
the
property
value
and
also
for
the
enjoyment
of
the
residents
around
there.
Their
experts
came
in
Cohn
Reznick.
C
Then
they
showed
all
these
pieces
of
property
and
they
showed
a
a
parcel
of
property
down
in
Indianapolis.
That
has
a
solar
farm
in
the
first
slide,
with
a
vacant
piece
of
ground
next
to
it,
and
then
they
show
a
slide
where
the
solar
farm
is
there
and
then
there's
a
four
hundred
thousand
dollar
house
there.
C
Those
people
chose
to
build
their
house
next
to
that
solar
farm
I,
didn't
they
have
a
solar
farm
up
in
Minnesota
I'm,
not
sure
if
it's
a
grand
richer,
which
one
of
it
is,
and
they
did
testify
that
and
I
had
showed
proof
at
the
CBA
meeting.
There
are
six
houses
in
that
complex
there
that
are
by
the
solar
farm.
The
solar
farm
bought
them
houses
out
over
market
value.
C
Yes,
they
have
been
sold
since
then,
but
the
people,
the
the
solar
farms
bottom
relisted
them
and
they
sold
for
fair
market
value
or
fair
market
value
at
that
time,
with
the
solar
farm
there,
but
the
people
that
bought
them
houses
they
bought
their
houses,
knowing
that
solar
farms
there
we
didn't
have
the
choice.
They're
shoving
this
back
in
my
back
door
in
my
neighbor's
back
door
without
it
giving
us
a
choice
if
you
choose
to
live
and
buy
next
to
a
solar
farm,
that's
your
prerogative!
C
Would
you
guys
want
it
in
your
backyard
and
shove
down
your
throat?
I,
don't
think
so.
The
property
owners
that
owned
this
property,
where
it's
going
at
they
don't
live
in
the
immediate
area.
Along
with
us,
one
of
the
property
owners
owns
59
acres.
There's
a
17
acre
parcel.
That's
400
feet
from
her
house.
That
would
be
perfect
for
a
solar
farm.
That's
inside
the
the
grid
system.
She
doesn't
want
it
there
I'm
sure.
C
Why
isn't
she
petitioning
to
have
one
there,
because
this
is
in
her
backyard?
It's
in
our
backyard,
so
I
don't
want
to
take
up
too
much
time,
I'm
nervous
for
being
up
here,
but
at
least
with
those
these
special
use
permits
the
a
and
there's
enough
evidence
there
and
to
basically
turn
it
down
or
at
least
put
a
moratorium
I
guess
they
call
it
on
this
piece
of
project
until
moments'
goes
and
decides
what
they're
doing
or
what
they
need
for
the
city
of
moments'
to
expand
and
grow.
That's
an
option
also.
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B
D
Know
that
is
chosen
well,
the
the
reason
for
the
new
flood
study
and
the
new
maps
is
that
will
County
has
had
paid
FEMA
to
do
a
flood
insurance
study
on
Fork
Creek.
Prior
to
this
it
was
an
undetermined
a
zone
and
did
not
have
a
base.
Flood
elevation
established
for
that
Creek.
Now
it
does,
and
since
Fork
Creek
runs
into
our
county,
they
had
to
change
ours
as
well.
In
the
overall
from
the
maps
I've
seen,
no
homes
have
been
brought
into
the
floodplain,
but
some
have
been
brought
out
so.
D
B
A
A
Okay,
going
on
our
zba
case,
18
22
request
for
a
rezoning
from
our
one
residential
district
to
a
one
agricultural
district
and
especially
use
permit
121,
99
c
34,
solar
farm
lineage,
a1
agricultural
district,
on
a
parcel
generally
situated
in
Section
17
a
moment
Township
on
a
parcel
number:
zero.
Five
one
117
one:
zero:
three:
zero:
zero
five
property
is
located
at
the
southeast
corner
of
Vincennes
trail
and
east
4,000,
North
Road.
The
petitioners
are
the
estate
of
Gary
thigh
fault,
ray
Simpson,
independent
executor,
property
owner
and
SBC
g
c
SG
moments.
One
LLC
applicant.
D
It's
a
2
megawatt
system,
it
is
fixed
tilt,
so
the
panel's
do
not
move
that
once
they're
put
in
place,
they're
set
at
an
angle
to
the
Sun
and
left
alone,
there'll
be
an
entrance
to
the
site
on
the
southwest
corner,
and
you
can
see
they're
about
a
hundred
feet
around.
It
will
be
landscaping.
The
rest
of
the
parcel
would
be
continued
to
be
farmed.
D
So
let
me
walk
you
through
some
of
the
history
on
this
back
on
June
25th
2018,
the
Zoning
Board
held
their
first
hearing
on
this
property
in
this
proposal
and
they
voted
then
4
to
0
to
approve
both
the
special
use
permit
and
the
rezoning
planning
and
zoning
committee
reviewed
it
on
July
18th
and
also
recommended
the
approval
of
both
on
August
14th
and
just
well.
Just
prior
to
August
14th.
D
We
received
notice
that
the
city
of
moments'
did
have
a
comprehensive
plan
and
on
August
14
2018,
the
full
County
Board
voted
to
send
it
back
to
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
to
consider
the
city's
plan
before
a
decision
is
made.
So
ZB
Hale
CBA
held
another
hearing
to
consider
that
plan
September
17th
just
this
past
Monday
and
we'll
give
you
the
results
of
that.
D
First
of
all,
I
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
authority
of
a
plan.
The
county
of
Kankakee
zoning
ordinance
is
the
controlling
document
for
land
use
in
the
county.
Plans
are
simply
advisory.
Plans
can
be
changed,
they
are
not
regulatory,
so
it
is,
it
is
just
a
plan,
and
that
is
by
state
statute.
Sixty-Five
ILCs
five
eleven
twelve
six,
okay-
and
this
goes
on-
we
do
have
the
authority
for
zoning,
so
first
thing
we
want
to
do
is
we're
going
to
discuss
the
county's
comprehensive
plan,
counties,
comprehensive
plan.
D
So
one
of
the
recommendations
that
came
out
of
our
our
county,
comprehensive
plan
was
that
the
zoning
in
those
areas
there
was
belief,
six
or
seven,
eight
of
them
identified
that
that
should
be
removed
from
the
residential
category.
The
red
arrow
on
this
map
shows
the
subject
site
is
within
that
area.
That
shows
that
the
residential
zoning
should
be
removed.
D
2005
is
when
our
comprehensive
plan
was
adopted,
yeah
we'll
get
to
that
sir.
We
will
get
today
we're
just
talking
about
the
county
plans.
I
want
to
show
you
how
how
it
all
fits
into
both
plans.
Okay,
so
our
county
comprehensive
plan
also
came
up
with
a
plan
map
of
how
the
county
should
develop
the
gray
areas
on
the
map,
our
urban
development
areas,
which,
if
you
go
to
the
text
of
the
plan,
basically
says
this-
is
where
the
county,
the
municipality,
should
grow
and
they
should
have
control
over
that
growth
within
those
areas.
D
D
So
then
we
look
at
the
moments
comprehensive
plan
map
and
it
shows
the
subject
site
should
also
be
used
as
agriculture
rezoning.
The
subject
property
is
consistent
with
the
moments
comprehensive
plan
page
six
of
their
plants
as
residential
development
should
be
at
a
scale
efficiently,
served
by
water
and
sanitary
sewer
system
and
contiguous
to
existing
developments.
This
property
is
not
close
to
sanitary,
sewer
or
water
and
is
at
least
600
feet
away
from
the
nearest
subdivision
lot,
which
is
a
subdivision
that
was
created
back
in
about
the
1930s.
D
So
there
has
been
no
development
in
the
area,
page
7
of
their
plan.
Population
projections
for
moments'
engineer,
Township
ours
are
flat,
they
have
not
been
rising.
Moments'
is
a
page
8
says:
Momence
is
issuing
a
few
new
residential
permits
annually,
and
this
pace
should
continue
at
the
hearing
Monday
night.
The
mayor
did
say
that
they
had
issued
a
few
permits
for
new
homes.
Last
year
it
was
less
than
10.
He
did
not
have
an
exact
number.
D
D
So
here
is
the
city
plan,
our
city,
momentous,
comprehensive
plan,
a
little
hard
to
see
there,
but
the
light
green
is
agriculture.
The
yellow
is
residential.
I
can
zoom
in
on
that
for
you,
and
you
can
see
that
this
property,
according
to
the
moments
comprehensive
plan,
should
remain
in
an
agricultural
zone.
The
breakline
there
between
residential
and
agriculture
is
Vincent's
trail.
D
So,
on
Monday
night,
the
Zoning
Board
recommended
the
approval
of
both
the
map
change
and
the
special
use
permit
with
a
vote
of
five
to
one
and
they
recommended
the
same
conditions
as
before.
There
are
three
conditions:
the
developer
shall
submit
a
landscape
plan
to
the
Planning
Department
for
review,
and
approval
and
part
of
that
is
landscaping
on
three
sides,
both
sides
with
the
roads
and
then
the
southern
side
of
the
site.
D
The
ground
cover
shall
be
planted
with
native
pollinator
friendly
species
and
alright
required
landscaping
shall
be
subject
to
the
maintenance
requirements
and
penalties
prescribed
in
the
weed
and
grass
control
plan.
There
was
one
dissenting
vote
and
I
believe
she
was
a
little
confused
by
the
findings
of
fact,
but
she
stated
that
she
wasn't
finding
effect
number
two
for
the
special
use
permit
where
it
talks
about
whether
the
proposal
would
be
injurious
to
surrounding
properties.
She
questioned
what
that
distance
should
be,
and
I
told
her.
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E
Of
all
the
I
just
want
to
say,
in
my
opinion
of
all
the
testimony
this,
the
things
that
went
on
at
CBA
and
things
that
have
gone
in
the
past
I
was
the
one
who
recommended
to
go
back
to
Z
ba,
because
the
comprehensive
plan
was
submitted
after
further
review.
This
site
is
not
in
a
residential
plan
we've
given
all
deference
to
the
proposal
to
the
site
to
developers
and
I
see
no
reason
to
violate
the
property
owners
rights
by
not
approving
this
visit
this
site.
Thank
you.
Any.
D
Others
aye
one
thing
to
add:
they
did
modify
two
of
the
findings
of
fact
to
include
the
fact
that
it
does
not.
It
is
a
agriculture
in
the
moments
kind
of
grants,
a
plan
that
was
special
are
the
rezoning
I'm.
Sorry,
the
rezoning
findings
of
fact
they
modified
two
of
those
and
added
that
it.
It
is
consistent
with
the
city
of
moments,
comprehensive
plan.
A
D
A
B
D
Okay,
the
closest
house
there's
actually
one
across
the
road
there
where
that,
just
above
that
little
white
arrow
that
says,
subject:
property.
There's
a
farmhouse
there
beyond
that
in
the
lower
left
corner
about
600,
it
was
testified
about
800
feet
away.
There's
a
row
of
houses
along
Vincennes
trail
about
800
feet
away
and
the
hearing
they
actually
measured
it
on
the
gis.
At
the
hearing,
mr.
niver
tills
house
is
about
1,200
to
1,300
feet
away
somewhere
in
that
range.
D
B
What
are
the
two
smaller
properties
just
to
the
west?
Those.
D
A
D
We
have
the
members
of
the
Commission
could
not
be
here
today.
We
found
that
out
after
we
put
it
on
the
agenda,
they
had
another
commitment,
so
they
wanted
to
give
this
PowerPoint
presentation
about
what
a,
but
is
historic
preservation.
So
instead
we
put
a
copy
of
it
in
your
packet
to
review
and
they
will
come
back
at
a
later
date
to
give
their
their
presentation.
D
A
Is
there
any
old
business
under
new
business,
new
business,
reappointment
of
Jane
Johnson
Tippecanoe
County
Historic,
Preservation,
Committee,
Commission,
reappointment
of
Ron
shank
to
the
Kankakee
County
Historic
Preservation
Commission,
and
the
report
appointment
of
Neil
piggish
to
the
Kankakee
County
Regional
Planning
Commission,
any
other
things
to
come
before
the
committee?
A
motion
to
adjourn
and
be
in
order?
Mr.
wheeler,
second,
by
Miss
beaters.
All
in.