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Planning, Zoning & Agriculture Committee Meeting 6/22/2017 9:00AM
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Here,
to
bring
up
the
fact
of
the
nonon
folks
enforcement
of
the
codes
that
are
written,
the
one
food
I
mean
it's
owned,
a
to
area
the
neighbors
all
zoned
a
to
which
basically
says
exactly
it
says.
A
to
agriculture.
State
district
is
intended
to
promote
low-density
residential
use
of
the
rural
character
in
areas
of
the
county,
where
topographic
conditions
are
best
adapted
to
residential
uses.
Pretty
much
sounds
like
a
residential
lot.
That's
what
I
was
told
when
I
bought
my
property
next
door
and
you're
allowed
to
keep
horses.
A
One
of
the
permitted
uses
is
keeping
up
horses,
excluding
other
livestock,
then
the
next
line
below
it
says
keeping
up
exotic
animals
as
regulated
here
in
in
the
papers.
Here
you
know:
exotic
animals
means
other
than
domestic
animals
that
normally
live
in
the
state
of
nature.
The
wild,
that's
exotic
animals
I,
keep
getting
told
it's
a
farm;
they
want
to
use
it
as
a
farm,
so
they're
going
to
have
cattle.
A
A
Now
they've
never
applied
for
a
special
use
permit,
but
underneath
that
it
says
animal
farms
engage
in
the
raising
of
exotic
animals
such
as
Fox
mints
and
chili
chickens,
hogs,
turkeys,
dairy
cows,
horses
use
of
exotic
animals
in
other
farm
animals,
we're
not
in
the
accessory
to
the
pursuit
of
agriculture
and
provided
no
building
or
structures
within
200
feet
of
the
neighbor's
lot
life.
Other
buildings
are
within
200
feet
of
my
lot
line
and
they
don't
have.
A
You
know
this
is
basically
saying:
maybe
they
have
a
pet
cow
or
a
pet
pig
or
a
pet
chicken,
but
they
have
47
cattle,
20
horses,
chickens,
goats
and
pigs.
There's
some
48
of
four
four
and
a
half
acres:
five
acres.
Okay!
Here
they
never
requested
a
permit.
They're
allowed
to
keep
horses
go
into
the
code,
one
per
acre
in
your
side
lot
or
the
rear
lot.
A
They
have
the
whole
yard
is
fenced
in
they've,
never
mowed
once
this
year,
because
they
just
let
the
horses
in
the
columns
walk
right
around
now
to
meet
everything
they
get
out
on
a
regular
basis.
Come
over
to
my
place,
because
there's
green
grass
over
there,
their
whole
place
is
bare
dirt
because
of
it
the
old.
Your
pasture
land
has
been
so
path
down.
They
don't
even
have
a
pasture
they're
available.
This
been
going
on
for
years,
I've
been
bringing
it
up
about
the
fences
when
they
first
put
in
a
plant.
A
That's
women
when
I
put
up
a
fence,
they
said
you're
in
a
residential
place
here,
the
finish
side
out
coming
they're
putting
up
fence
with
rolls
of
rubber
belting
that
they
get
a
tar
paper
sheets
apply.
Wood,
paneling,
two-by-sixes
railroad
ties,
scaffolding
brackets
whatever
they
can
make
it
out
of
this
with
dispenser,
so
I
brought
up
and
said:
how
can
they
get
away
with
using
this
kind
of
fence
with
no
finish
side
out?
Well,
they're,
using
it
as
farm
fencing,
they
don't
need
a
permit
for
farm
concepts.
It's
madam
General
they're.
A
Still
in
the
areas
owned
a
we
go
by
the
a
zoning
rules,
that's
what
I
was
told.
When
I
put
my
pants
off
they
pill,
it
I
want
to
put
up
a
building
a
40
by
70
garage
outbuilding
and
when
I
asked
I
called
down.
I
said:
do
I
need
a
permit
and
they
said:
oh
yeah,
you
need
a
permit.
What
about
the
neighbors
they're,
putting
up
a
forty
by
eighty
building?
They
don't
have
a
permit,
so
they
came
out
and
red
flag
that
building
a
week
later
it
was
done.
A
They
finished
it
anyway,
but
but
this
building
was
a
cement
block,
building
I'm
living
right
across
from
a
quarry.
When
you
dig
a
hole
you
get
down
about
two
feet,
you
hit
solid.
Why
so
to
get
42
inches
like
the
footings
call
for
when
I
put
my
building
up
it
cost
me
four
thousand
extra
to
have
a
truck
come
out
there,
one
of
them
well
drilling
trucks
to
dig
holes
in
the
solid
rock.
What
are
you
2
inches
deep
because
that's
what
we
aspired
to
put
my
footing
in
they
went
down
2
feet.
A
Put
their
cement
block.
Building
up
the
building
was
almost
completed
when
they
got
red-flagged.
They
came
in
and
got
a
permit.
The
permit
says
it's
a
a
wooden
frame.
Building
with
six
by
six
post
times,
eight
foot
centers
with
42
inch
deep
tier
cement,
piers
that
your
cemented
into,
and
that
was
a
permit.
They
applied
for
and
right
on
the
permits
and
says,
if
you're
changing
it
make
sure
you
bring
it
up.
Well,
they
went
and
finished
it
and
I
asked
might
say:
hey,
you
know,
nobody's
ever
inspected
there
and
it's
yeah
yeah.
A
They
wouldn't
look
at
it,
but
it
hasn't
hit.
They
never
came
back
for
the
final
inspection.
Well,
nobody
ever
looked
at
it
the
first
time
because
they
would
have
realized.
It
was
already
know.
Piers
is
a
concrete
block
building.
You
know
they
just
came
in
and
pulled
a
permit
for
whatever
somebody
told
them
they
wanted
to
build
and
the
electricals
in
there
extension
cords
after
Raph
I've
seen
it.
You
can
see
it
from
the
road.
There's!
A
No
electrical
Don,
this
says
electrical
in
the
conduit
and
when
it
comes
to
the
final
inspection,
they
send
them
a
letter
once
a
year
after
they
started
send
them
a
second
letter
by
the
week
later,
send
them
a
certified
letter.
Nothing
ever
happened.
This
is
okay,
they
closed
it.
No
final
inspection,
never
darn,
oh
yeah,
so
I
asked
my
swelling
to
the
code
with
a
building
permit
not
allowed
to
use
that
building
until
the
final
inspection
is
done.
A
Oh
a
third
could
be
fine
to
be,
and
if
every
offense
is
a
new
five
everyday,
they
use
it
is
new
offense.
So
this
been
going
on
for
five
years
six
years,
they've
been
using
it
building
now
I'm
going
to
use
that
building
you've
already
had,
in
addition
to
it
and
you're
working
on
the
second
addition,
they've
added
five
additions
to
their
barn,
which
was
4,000
square
foot,
the
original
farm
barn.
A
Now
it's
7,000
square
feet
of
wing
tubes
with
blue
white
red
green
sheet,
metal,
whatever
they
could
make
it
out
of
just
lean-to,
is
all
over.
Do
you
know?
This
is
what
this
property
is?
Looking,
like.
You
know
their
expenses
when
they
applied
for
their
first
fence,
permit
they
put
up
a
fence
about
300
feet
long
around
my
pot
along
your
property
to
keep
your
cattle
off
of
mine.
Basically,
and
now
there
are
thousands
of
feet
of
fence
there.
It's
around
the
whole
plate.
A
I
complain
to
the
Health
Department
about
the
cattlemen
who
are
running
in
my
yard,
because
they've
got
so
many
cattle
when
it
rains
all
that
manures
running
in
my
yard
is
knowing
the
whole
rila
trees.
I
quit
up
to
block
the
offense,
so
I
didn't
have
to
look
at
it,
they're
all
dying,
though
the
Health
Department
says
we
don't
deal
with
livestock
ways
like
how
the
EPA
they
come
out,
took
soil
samples
and
they're
working
on
it,
and
apparently
they
got
word
to
him
there.
A
If
they
were
there
taking
pictures
of
the
property,
because
the
manure
was
running
onto
mine,
so
they
took
their
big
pile
of
manure.
That
was
about
eight
feet,
high,
the
biggest
this
room
and
they
piled
it
up
two
feet
high,
all
the
way
around
their
fence,
so
that
the
mill,
though
so
it's
not
running
onto
my
property.
Now
it's
just
seeping
out
there
they'll
now
leave
now,
instead
of
running
into
my
property,
it
runs
into
the
ditch
in
the
front
of
the
house
when
time
is
up,
yeah,
okay,.
A
C
C
E
Only
report
for
May
2017
we
had
80
total
permits
three
of
those
were
new
homes
for
evaluation
of
2.5
million,
and
we
collected
fees
on
permits
of
23,000
804
when
you
add
in
the
additional
fees
for
fines,
plan,
reviews,
etc.
We
collected
twenty
eight
thousand
nine
hundred
and
fifty-two
dollars
for
the
month.
A
A
C
Zoning
Z
bak
17-0
one
requests
our
special
use
permit
to
section
121
99
C,
22
campground
in
the
a1
agricultural
district
and
variances
section
121,
281,
C,
accessory
structure,
location
and
section
121,
286
c1
number
of
driveways
on
a
parcel
generally
situated
in
section
one
of
Pembroke.
Township
petitioner
is
Alejandro
Gomez,
jr.
and
Alberto
sebastian,
property
owners
and
applicants.
E
E
Points
of
the
case
right
now,
it's
a
10
acre
parcel
located
at
the
south
side
of
6000
South
Road,
just
west
of
17,000
East
Road
in
Pembroke
Township
back
around
October
of
last
year,
we
had
gotten
a
call
from
a
resident
in
the
township,
alerting
us
to
three
new
homes
being
built
on
the
property,
and
we
didn't
have
a
permit
for
it.
When
we
got
out
there,
we
found
out
that
it
wasn't
homes.
It
was
three
little
cabins,
probably
about
ten
foot
by
12
foot
or
so
on.
The
hill
and
a
pavilion
had
been
built.
E
E
See
page
down
the
layout
on
the
map
that
you
see
on
the
screen
is
the
buildings
that
have
been
built.
The
three
little
three
red
dots
are
where
the
locations
of
the
cab
and
the
white
square
is
the
pavilion
they
put
a
horseshoe
driveway
in
and
they
have
a
it's
called
a
Sand
Point.
Well,
that's
been
put
in,
which
is
where
the
Blue
Dot
is,
and
they
had
an
outhouse
up
on
the
hill,
where
the
Green
Dot
is.
E
The
original
Zoning
Board
hearing
voted
five
to
zero
to
approve
with
conditions
those
conditions
were
one.
The
use
of
a
campground
is
limited
and
family
of
the
owner,
and
under
no
circumstances
shall
it
be
used
for
commercial
purposes
to
the
property
is
to
be
used
for
recreational
purposes.
Only
and
living
quarters
are
not
to
be
used
as
permanent
residences.
The
owner
shall
obtain
and
abide
by
all
permits
and
licenses,
as
required
by
federal
state
and
local
government,
and
for
a
sign
indicating
private
property
shall
be
installed
at
the
entrance
of
the
site.
E
As
I
said,
I've
excuse
my
accent
made
earlier.
It
was
actually
April
on
April
20th
pza
reviewed
the
case
and
sent
it
back
to
the
Zoning
Board
because
they
had
concerns
about
the
well
be
well
is
just
a
hand-pumped.
Well,
there
was
concerns
about
not
having
what
actual
water
on
the
site
for
fighting
fires
or
for
human
consumption.
A
E
E
So
zoning
board
I
assume,
if
the
so
the
process
for
this
and
I
think
there's
been
some
confusion,
we're
at
step
one
right
now
and
that
is
to
obtain
property
zoning
which
would
be
the
special
use
permit
and
they
need
a
variance
for
the
driveway
step.
Two
is
to
apply
for
and
obtain
the
state
permit
for
a
campground
that
will
include
all
buildings
on
the
site
must
be
designed
by
an
architect
they'll
be
reviewed
by
the
state.
E
The
state
will
review
the
septic
system
or
the
sanitary
sewer
system,
whatever
that
turns
out
to
be
be
well
and
the
entire
site
plan.
As
I
said,
it
was
its
very
stringent.
It's
like
22
pages
the
code
for
campgrounds
step
3.
If
they
get
that
approval
would
be
to
apply
to
the
county
for
the
proper
building
permits.
The
entrance
permit
the
Health
Department
for
the
well
permit
and
the
set
to
permit
and
get
it
all
constructed
and
installed
properly,
which
would
be
step.
4
finish.
E
The
construction
of
the
site,
step
5,
would
be
the
final
inspections
and
the
occupancy
permit.
So
you
can
see
the
owners
have
a
long
way
to
go
to
actually
establish
a
campground
on
here,
and
we
are
at
step
one
if,
for
some
reason,
if
the
Planning
and
Zoning
committee
were
to
approve
the
special
use
permit
and
for
whatever
reason
the
state
permits
were
not
obtained,
especially
use
permit
would
be
null
and
void
in
12
months
from
the
date
the
county
board
approved
it.
E
If
the
site
were
not
constructed
within
12
months,
it
would
also
go
away.
So
so
I
want
to
try
to
alleviate.
We
made
some
of
the
confusion
that
we
had
on
where
we
were
at
the
Planning
and
Zoning
committee
is
not
approving
the
entire
site
plan.
What
type
of
well
is
going
to
be
there
or
what
type
of
septic
system
is
there?
A
motion.
C
E
On
just
one
more
thing,
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
at
they're
at
the
second
hearing,
voted
5
to
0
to
approve
again,
but
they
did
modify
condition
number
one,
which
was
they
change
it
to
the
use
of
the
campground
is
limited
to
private
use
by
the
owners
and
under
no
circumstances
shall
it
be
used
by
commercial
or
for
commercial
purposes.
So
they
they've
had
friends
and
family
stricken
from
the
condition.
C
F
Mr.
wheeler,
thank
you,
as
chairman
I
appreciate
the
the
explanation
that
he
believed
eiated.
Any
concerns
that
I
had
I
didn't
want
to
waste
time
with
a
crew
when
something
if
we
didn't
need
to.
But
you
explained
the
process
well
inside
young
full,
just
moving
forward
on
it
and
we'll
see
what
happens
at
the
beginning.
Yeah
did.
Could
you
sense
the
applicants
desire
to
go
through
this
whole
process
or,
yes,.
E
E
B
B
G
B
E
C
The
reappointment
of
Michael
Donahue
to
the
Kankakee
County
Historical
Preservation
Commission.
Do
we
need
a
motion
than
that?
Yes,
okay,
it's
a
motion
by
mr.
Washington
second
by
mr.
Peyton
on
favor,
say
aye.
Both
motion
carried
under
old
business
reminder
of
the
highway
and
building
and
PGA
Committee
meeting
date
changes
effects
of
effective
July
2017.
C
C
E
E
We've
been
out
there
many
times
the
last
time
we
were
out
there.
The
only
code
violation
we
found
were
a
few
junked
cars
which
the
property
owner
promptly
removed.
They
are
gone
now
it
is
a
farm,
it's
being
used
as
a
farm.
Mr.
son's
does
not
understand
how
the
Illinois
State
statute
for
Zoning
also
applies
to
this
property,
which
states
that
if
you
have
five
acres,
you
are
a
farm,
and
if
you
are
a
farm,
we
cannot
pass
any
zoning
ordinance
provisions
that
would
prevent
you
from
being
farmed,
including.
E
The
property
is
actually
zoned
a
oh,
very
well.
No
mr.
Sons
likes
likes
to
claim
that
a
is
a
residential
zoning,
but
it's
not
it's
an
agricultural
zoning
flight's
called
a
to
agricultural
for
hobby
farms,
mini
farms,
we've
been
out
there,
the
health
department's
been
out
there.
The
EPA
has
been
out
there,
Department
of
eggs
been
out
there
and
well.
As
far
as
I
know,
none
of
those
agencies
have
any
issues
with
the
condition
of
the
property.
F
C
A
E
E
E
B
E
We
limit
those
for
some
reason,
but
we
do
not
limit
the
number
of
horses
chickens,
the
if
you
can
have
them.
We
do
limit
where
you
can
and
can't
have
them.
You
can
him
in
a
residential
neighborhood
residential
district,
but
if
you
can
have
them
it's
whatever
you
can
put
on
the
property
and
very
good,
keep
them
healthy
and
safe
and.
E
I,
don't
believe
believe
so
additions,
maybe
because
you're
not
supposed
to
expand
a
legal
non-conforming,
but
I
would
have
to
dig
deeper
into
that
to
see
and
a
lot
of
the
claims
on
building
permits
and
building
without
permits.
We
have
not
seen
that
if
it's
the
owner
of
that
building,
does
he
live
there.