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Planning, Zoning & Agriculture Committee Meeting 8/16/2017 9:00 AM
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B
A
Okay,
you've
received
a
copy
of
the
july
19th,
sorry
july,
19th.
Oh,
we
have
no
public
comment.
I
haven't
received
any
sheets
all
right
for
the
july
19
2017
minutes
any
additions
or
corrections
motion
to
approve
would
be
an
order
by
mr
washington.
Second
and
I
misspoke
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carried
building
report.
C
C
Departure
will
leave
us
with
two
building
inspectors
with
a
excuse.
Thank
you
with
a
combined
experience
of
less
than
three
years,
and
I
would
I'm
asking
permission
to
replace
what
would
what
the
intention
is
is
to
move
steve
marion
into
gary's
position
and
then
replace
steve
marion's
position
as
a
code
enforcement
officer.
So
I'm
asking
permission
to
post
that
position.
Permission.
D
B
C
C
C
Well,
not
for
v6s
they're,
not,
and
those
are
hard
hard
driven
miles,
and
I
have
noticed
that
our
expenses
for
vehicle
repairs
has
pretty
much
doubled.
In
the
last
year
we
have
been
averaging
about
two
to
three
thousand
dollars
in
maintenance
fees
between
all
four
vehicles,
and
that
has
spiked
up
to
just
over
seven
thousand
dollars
this
year.
I'm
guessing
we're
going
to
as
as
they
continue
to
get
older
they're
going
to
that
number
is
going
to
go
higher.
Do
we
usually
replace.
C
Well,
we've
had
a
combination
of
both
we've
gotten
used
sheriff's
vehicles
before,
but
we've
these
were
the
first
four
vehicles
that
our
department
has
owned.
So
there's
not
a
lot
of
history
here
as
to
what
we've
done
in
the
past
who's,
the
first
four.
These
are
the
first
four
yeah
we
ever
purchased
and
it's
not
a
you
know
it's
not
critical
now,
but
I
have
no
line
item
in
my
budget
for
the
replacement
of
vehicles
and
no
plan
to
replace
them.
C
D
E
C
A
G
Yeah,
I
see
that
we
don't
have
any
money
in
the
budget
this
year,
but
we
should
plan
ahead
and
possibly
at
least
replace
one
of
the
vehicles
next
year.
I
can't
see
doing
four
at
once
in
the
situation
that
we're
in,
but
if
we
start
to
rotate
and
get
him
a
few
more
reliable
vehicles
and
get
the
repair
costs
down,
I
think
if
we
just
plan
on
it,
put
it
in
the
budget.
H
Question
about
using
your
own
vehicles-
maybe
this
is
something
for
the
chairman
to
address
the
reason
that
we
went
to
vehicles
back
in
2004.
Was
we
got
legal
advice
that
we
had
liability
if
our
employees
were
using
their
own
vehicles
to
do
county
work
and
we
were
advised
we
needed
to
use
these
vehicles?
I
guess
what
you
need
to
do
is
ask
your
current
state's
attorney.
Is
that
still
the
case?
Is
that
his
feeling?
But
it
was
purely
if
I
remember
right-
a
couple.
H
E
You
you
know,
the
expenses
is
one
thing
you
know
I
talked
to
to
dell
about.
You
know
with
the
the
amount
of
quasi
enforcement
type
activities
they
do
and
in
certain
areas
of
the
county
where
the
roads
aren't
that
good,
that
we
may
consider
at
least
one
four-wheel
vehicle
in
the
fleet
for
the
for
their
department,
because
at
times
they
have
to
call
in
the
highway
department
to
plow
to
get
to
a
property,
and
that
seems
like
it's
costing
a
lot
of
other
people
money
to
handle
that.
E
So,
if
we
look
at
this,
we
should
probably
consider
maybe
that's
the
first
vehicle
we
get.
Yeah
is
a
four-wheel
vehicle
and
and
as
far
as
the
cost
goes,
I
need
to
maybe
remind
everybody.
We
just
authorized
the
purchase
of
11
squad
tahoes
at
450
000
over
three
years,
so
that
might
be
one
of
those
that
that
needs
to
have
that.
That
situation
needs
to
be
kind
of
balanced.
With
you
know,
we
don't
have
the
money.
Well,
the
criminal
justice
just
authorized
that
situation.
So
could
we.
F
E
They
got
away
from
doing
the
four
wheel-
okay
for
cost
reasons,
so
I
did
explore
that
with
the
sheriff.
So
you
know
we're
looking
at
figuring
out
how
we're
going
to
pay
411,
which
is
you
know,
forty
thousand
dollars
a
year
over.
You
know
at
least
payments
or
a
forty
thousand
dollar.
You
know
per
quarter
lease
payment,
so
it's
substantial
over
the
next
three
years,
so.
C
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A
D
C
A
D
J
So
last
july
show
bus
purchased,
new
radios
for
all
the
vehicles
in
their
fleet
that
included
kankakee
counties.
That
was
with
a
capital
grant
that
was
awarded
by
idot.
These
net
radios
were
needed
because
all
the
radio
systems
are
being
upgraded
to
digital
systems,
and
so
all
the
analog
systems
are
being
phased
out.
So
we
now
have
several
analog
radios
that
are
no
longer
useful,
so
I'm
asking
for
approval,
dispose.
J
We
have
nine
gtx
radios
that
were
purchased
in
2001..
Those
are
purchased
100
with
state
funds.
There
are
10
motorola
radios
and
two
portable
units
that
were
purchased
in
2010
and
those
were
purchased
100
with
federal
funds.
So
no
local
funds
were
used
in
acquiring
any
of
the
radios
and
idot
has
given
permission
to
dispose
of
them.
So
I'm
asking
this
committee
for
permission.
J
J
She
uses
a
system
part
of
the
agriculture,
I'm
not
sure
all
the
fine
details
of
it,
but
the
farmers
association
I
think
down
there
or
something
they
have
a
radio
for
the
farmers.
I
think
that's
how
it
was
explained
and
she
uses
their
system.
Okay
for
radio,
that's
that's!
What
I'm
to
understand
is
the
analog.
J
J
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J
A
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M
M
We
have
a
fenced-in
yard
with
a
very
wonderfully
loud
freight
train
behind
our
house,
but
we
are
not
permitted
to
have
any
kind
of
poultry,
no
chickens,
no
ducks
anything
we
can
have
as
many
dogs
as
we
wanted
to
have
more.
We
could
have
you
know,
you
know
a
herd
of
50
dogs
and
that'll,
be
just
fine
with
everybody,
but
chickens
are
currently
not
allowed.
I
am
told
this
is
just
because
of
an
old
ordinance
has
been
in
place
for
a
long
long
time,
I'm
not
sure
how
long
it's
been
there.
M
Essentially,
we
would
just
like
to
have
the
opportunity
for
ourselves,
as
well
as
other
citizens
in
unincorporated
county,
to
experience
the
joy
of
having
domestic
foul
on
their
properties.
Most
people
today
who
are
interested
in
the
increasingly
popular
backyard
chickens.
Experience
are
not
looking
to
start
any
kind
of
commercial
operation,
they're,
simply
looking
to
be
able
to
have
these
amusing
pets
in
their
homes.
That
also
offer
some
great
benefits.
As
we
all
know,
we
all
enjoy
eggs.
M
They
allow
great
education
experience
for
young
children,
my
wife
jamil
sitting
in
the
back,
and
I
we
have
four
small
kids
ages.
Five
down
to
six
months-
and
personally,
we
like
to
take
my
experiences
to
to
local
farms.
As
we
see
in
the
picture,
this
is
us
visiting
a
farm
and
we
just
see
the
light
in
their
eyes,
and
we
think
that
other
families
should
be
able
to
have
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
do
this
on
their
own
on
their
own
properties.
M
There's
other
wonderful
benefits,
along
with
having
domestic
fouls
such
as
their
natural
tendencies.
A
lot
of
domestic
fowl
are
naturally
good.
Weeders
they'll
go
out
and
they'll
they'll
eat,
weeds
in
people's
properties,
they're
omnivorous,
they'll,
eat
rodents
and
other
disease-carrying
parasites
that
might
otherwise
be
on
the
property
they
could
come.
They
oppose.
M
M
Personally,
I
find
this
a
little
humorous
because
directly
behind
our
house,
like
directly
behind
our
back
fence,
we
have
that
loud
freight
train
that
goes
best.
We
could
be
standing.
You
know
on
our
back
porch
and
having
a
conversation
we
have
to
stop,
so
we
can't
hear
a
thing
from
the
person
standing
right
next
to
us,
because
this
loud
train
and
I
think,
there's
there's
a
lack
of
education
with
the
noise
that
these
animals
produce.
For
the
most
part,
domestic
fowl
are
very
quiet
creatures.
M
Even
a
rooster,
as
you
can
see
from
the
pamphlet,
is
much
quieter
than
many
of
the
things
around
us.
We
found
statistics
for
for
noise
ratings,
a
barking
dog
at
one
meter,
for
example,
it's
about
70
to
100
decibels.
A
lawn
mower
at
one
meter
is
about
107
decibels.
A
rooster
at
one
meter
is
only
48
decibels.
M
Now
again,
there's
nothing
stopping
us
from
having
50
beagles
howling
all
day,
every
rabbit
that
pops
into
our
yard,
but
a
quieter
rooster.
We're
not
allowed
even
they're,
quieter
opposite
sex,
the
hens
or
other
animals
such
as
ducks,
which
virtually
make
no
noise
at
all.
Unless
you
startle
them
and
then
they
they
quack,
but
that's
about
it.
M
Other
concerns
would
be.
Are
they
going
to
attract
rodents
or
pests
onto
our
properties?
Again,
many
of
these
domestic
foul
are
natural,
naturally,
graded
disposing
of
such
pests.
Chickens,
for
example,
are
omnivorous.
They
will
eat
mice
that
come
into
their
in
their
territory.
They're,
not
they're,
not
going
to
cause
problems.
M
M
Another
common
concern
would
be
about
these
poultry
escaping
people's
yards.
Although
there
are
many
people
who
would
like
the
idea
of
having
backyard
chickens
be
able
to
have
their
own
flock.
There
are
others
who
be
concerned
about
you
know.
I
don't
want
my
neighbors
chicken
in
my
yard.
I
don't
want.
You
know
feathers
everywhere.
There
are
simple
ways
to
control
this.
Any
responsible
pet
owner
does
not
allow
their
pet
to
roam
free
to
run
through
the
neighborhood
or
the
county,
and
they
put
restrictions
in
place
same
with
domestic
foul.
M
I
believe
that
any
responsible
pet
owner
should,
and
I
would
be
expected
to
control
their
flock,
make
sure
they
cannot
escape
they're
in
a
fenced-in
enclosure.
Of
course,
people
who
own
domestic
fowl
are
much
more
inclined
to
do
so,
because
these
are
not
cheap
to
maintain
the
way
that
most
people
having
backyard
chickens.
Do
it's
not
just
oh
a
few
cents
for
feed.
We
make
nice
expensive
coops,
where
these
are
pets,
our
companions,
they
provide
great
amusement.
M
We
don't
want
to
see
than
picked
away
picked
up
by
a
hawk
or
by
a
fox
in
the
area.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
they
are
safe
for
more
flighty
species,
such
as
lighter
breeds
of
chickens.
The
wings
can
easily
be
clipped,
so
they
cannot
fly
away.
There
are
very
easy
ways
to
control
these,
but
the
biggest
thing
we
are
looking
to
push
is
that
we'd
be
allowed
to
one
to
have
them
the
two
that
they
be
classified
as
pets
same
as
any
other
animal.
M
So
why
should
there
be
a
control
on
the
quantity
of
these
file
we're
permitted
to
have?
I
say
that
as
long
as
we're
able
to
provide
for
them
so
that
they
are
in
a
healthy
living
space,
they're
controlled
on
our
own
properties,
they're,
not
causing
neighbor
disturbances,
and
we
should
be
allowed
to
have
them
just
as
any
other
pet.
E
E
I
did
an
extensive
amount
of
research
on
this
subject
in
order
to
stand
up
to
both
the
planning
board
and
then
the
full
city
council
for
approval
there.
I
believe
madison,
wisconsin,
chicago
philadelphia
and
new
york
city
all
allow
with
limitations,
backyard
chickens.
Okay,
much
of
what
this
gentleman
has
said
is
absolutely
accurate,
except
for
one
thing,
the
the
size
of
the
flock
limitations
are
standard
across
almost
every
ordinance
that
exists
out
there,
whether
it's
in
a
municipality
or
outside
a
municipality
in
an
agricultural
residential
type
mixed
use
district.
E
If
you
will,
while
I
encourage
that
this
committee
passes
the
at
least
the
approval
for
me
and
dell
to
work
on
the
actual
ordinance
that
we
we
would
bring
back,
there
are
some
things
that
are
problematic
roosters
for
neighbors.
For
one
thing
then
you're
into
breeding,
then
you
lose
control
of
the
size
of
your
flock.
E
So
that's
one
of
the
situations
they're
readily
available.
My
wife
has
believe
it
or
not-
has
chicks
delivered
by
mail,
no
slaughtering
on
site
those
types
of
things.
There
are
many
things
that
are
standard
across
the
united
states,
whether
it's
in
a
municipality
or
a
rural
area.
So
and
when
you
have
larger
plots
of
land,
you
can
typically,
as
you
look
at
all
these
different
regulations,
you
can
have
more
animals
a
mix
of
chickens
and
ducks
and
or
you
can
do
that
right
off
the
jump.
E
But
then
you,
if
you
get
a
larger
plot
you
can
have.
You
can
have
more
the
problem
as
not
the
problem,
though
it
is
accurate
to
say
that
the
the
the
operation
is
only
good
as
good
as
the
caregiver
and
anything
stinks.
I
mean
if
you
you
know,
dog
waste
and
cat
waste
is
toxic.
Chicken
waste
is
actually
fertilizer,
so
ours
run
through
our
gardens
when
the
gardens
are
and
they
eat
all
the
you
know
the
insects
and
everything
like
that.
So
I
will
say
it's
a
good
thing.
E
It
makes
it
an
attractive
county
to
want
to
live
in
when
these
things
happen,
but
you
have
to
be
mindful
of
the
neighbors
the
setbacks
where
you
can
build
coops
away
from
the
property
lines.
All
of
these
things
are,
I
would
say,
I've
got
a
binder
at
home
because
I've
done
the
research
so
I'll.
I
would
be
working
with
dell
if
you
so
approve
to
send
it
on
and
then
bring
something
back.
Do
you
have
roosters
none,
that's
specifically
something
that
is
that
in
these
ordinances.
E
Five
acres:
okay,
but
they
won't
you're.
Not
your
house
is
not
gonna,
be
right.
Next
to
your
coop's,
not
gonna,
be
right
next
to
to
somebody
else's
property
or
you
have
the
ability
to
move
it,
but
if
you're,
on
less
than
a
five
acre,
there's
a
good
possibility
that
you've
got
somebody
within
30
40
feet
of
your
property
line.
That's
the
problem!
The.
E
D
B
I
C
I
E
The
first
step
was
going
to
be
to
the
new
animal
advisory
committee.
To
have
them
take
a
look
at
this
from
a
animal.
I
guess
a
lover's
perspective.
Somebody
who
wants
to
see
the
right
thing
happen.
There
then
bring
it
to
community
services
after
they
take
a
look
at
the
ordinance.
It
would
probably
be
here
there
there
and
then
I
would
have
to
go
to
zva.
I
believe
zoning.
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And
there
were
things
I
had
to
do.
I
had
to
notify
all
my
neighbors
through
registered
mail.
You
know
to
let
them
know
to
have
them
the
chance
to
come
to
the
zoning
board
of
appeals.
I
actually
had
to
change
the
zoning
of
my
property.
Basically,
I've
got
an
agricultural
district
in
the
middle
of
kankakee
and
it's
a
it's
a
special
use.
Permit
that
goes
away
when
I
leave
now.
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I
don't
think
I
don't
want
to
go
that
draconian
on
this,
because
I
think
I
believe
in
the
program
I
mean
they
have
like
there's
groups
of
people
that
go
around
and
do
coup
tours
and
look
at
you
know
I
mean
almost
like
frank,
lloyd,
wright
people
they
go
around
and
they
just
they
go
to
different
places
and
it's
believe
it
or
not.
It's
an
economic
development
thing.
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Oh,
I
just
had
a
question
regarding
one
or
two
things.
As
far
as
roosters
go,
I
definitely
understand
so
we're
gonna
make
sure
that
we're
considered
with
all
of
our
neighbors.
I
was
wondering
if
there
might
be
some
way
we
could
allow
leniency,
for
example,
if
somewhere
to
gain
permission
from
their
neighbors
within
a
certain
radius
to
make
sure
all
those
who
might
be
linear
who
might
be
bothered
by
it.
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If
they
give
consent,
then
possibly
it
might
be
permitted
that
way,
it's
not
a
complete
a
closed
door,
but
that
way
we're
also
being
respectable
to
those
who
who
might
not
appreciate
it
and
as
for
our
quantity,
I
understand
desire
to
don't
want
to
have
it
controlled,
as
would
like
to
see
that
were
that
even
people
who
have
small
parcels,
maybe
like
a
fourth
acre
so
are
still
able
to
have
a
decent
number
of
birds
to
still
be
able
to
have
breakfast
in
the
morning.
You
know
what
I
mean
well,.
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Animals,
no
actually
it's
not!
But
anyway,
if
you
came
to
the
conclusion
that
boy
that
looks
like
a
farm,
that's
what
I
came
came
up
with.
Okay,
the
neighbor
to
the
north
of
this
property,
as
I
stated,
has
been
speaking
out
very
adamantly
about
his
neighbor
and
we're
going
to
address
some
of
that.
Now.
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Remained
in
a1
zoning
until
2006
when
it
was
sold,
the
owner
or
the
new
buyer,
came
in
to
inquire
about
what
he
could
do
with
the
property
and
that's
when
we
realized
it
was.
It
did
not
meet
the
a1
zoning
of
20
acres
and
that
it
would
need
to
be
rezoned
so
that
one
was
rezoned
in
2006
to
a2
agriculture,
so
both
of
those
parcels
are
zoned
a2
agricultural
estate,
the
remainder
of
the
farm,
is
still
a1.
Agriculture,
okay
and
two
setbacks
were
also
issued
to
that
property.
At
that
time.
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One
for
setbacks
to
allow
an
accessory
structure
in
the
front
yard.
Excuse
me
one,
it
was.
It
was
not
two
one
variants
to
allow.
There
was
a
corn
crib
in
that
circle,
driveway
just
to
the
to
the
west
of
it.
It
has
since
been
taken
down,
but
that
was
in
the
front
yard
of
the
property,
so
they
were
issued
a
variance
for
that.
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Statutes
the
purpose
of
what,
for
what
purpose?
Do
we
have
this
authority
to
protect
the
health
safety,
morals,
comfort,
general
welfare
of
the
public,
conserve
the
value
of
property,
avoid
congestion
on
the
streets
and
lessen
or
avoid
the
hazards
resulting
from
storm
water
runoff?
That
is
part
of
the
statute.
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Because
what
can
we
not
regulate
number
one?
We
cannot
deprive
owners
of
existing
property
for
the
of
its
use
or
maintenance
for
any
purpose
that
it
was
lawfully
established
for,
and
that
would
be
the
legal
non-conforming
portion
of
our
ordinance,
which
means,
if
you
had
a
building
or
a
business
or
a
use
that
was
there
before
our
ordinance
or
before
our
regulation
went
into
place.
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Except
for
setbacks
and
lot
size
can
anything
be
done.
Yeah,
it's
possible
just
not
building
code
and
zoning
code,
which
is
two
of
the
codes
the
planning
department
enforces
it
is.
It
is
possible,
they
are
not
exempt
from
floodplain
codes,
but
that
hasn't
been
an
issue
here:
they're
not
exempt
from
health
department
codes.
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There
could
be
other
agencies
or
departments
out
there
as
well.
Each
of
these
listed
have
been
contacted.
We
told
mr
suns.
This
he's
contacted
every
one
of
them
to
my
knowledge,
most
of
them,
if
not
all,
have
been
out
there.
I
have
not
received
any
reports
that
anything
was
found
to
be
a
miss
or
any
error
that
was
within
their
control
to
do
anything
about.
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So
does
it
meet
the
requirements
of
the
a2
zoning
minimum
lot
size
2
acres
yep
meets
that
maximum
lot
size.
15
acres
meets
that
it's
5.39
acres,
minimum
lot,
width,
250
parcels,
314
feet
wide
principal
structure,
setbacks,
50,
feet,
front,
20,
side,
50,
rear
it
meets
the
side
in
the
rear.
It
does
not
meet
the
front
setback,
but
it
is
legal
non-conforming.
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It
was
built
before
night
or
somewhere
before
1937.,
building
height
two
and
a
half
stories
or
35
feet.
All
structures
meet
that
requirement
permitted
uses
on
the
property.
A2
district
allows
for
a
single
family
detached
dwelling
unit
that
meets
it,
keeping
of
horses,
excluding
other
livestock
as
regulated
in
the
general
provisions.
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You've
cut
it
up
and
put
it
on
a
plate
once
again
once
it
goes
on
what
happens
prior
to
prior
prior
to
it
going
on
the
grill.
I
do
not
know,
okay,
so
here's
the
building
code.
It's
also
got
an
agricultural
exemption
section
and
there's
the
three
criteria:
it
must
meet
located
on
a
farm
that
is
such
a
fun.
In
fact,
and
not
in
name
only
that's
an
interesting
sentence
there,
but
it
has
to
be
an
actual
farm.
You
cannot
just
call
yourself
delbert's
farm
acres
and
put
up
a
sign
and
say
I'm
a
farm.
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You
must
actually
be
a
farm.
Okay,
meet
the
regulations
of
the
zoning
ordinance
as
related
to
agriculture
and
farming
and
minimal
setbacks.
So
now
our
agricultural
exemption
exemption
on
the
zoning
side
kicks
in
an
accessory
to
the
cultivation
of
crop,
acreage
or
other
agricultural
operations.
So
if
you
want
a
building
permit
for
something
related
to
the
farm,
it
is
exempt
from
the
building
code.
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He
goes
to
a
different
direction.
It
started
out
a
complaint
about
the
cows
and
I
said
there
was
nothing
we
can
do
about
the
cows
and
complain
about
the
fence.
He
said
the
fence
was
fine.
Now
it's
a
complaint
about
the
barn.
It
just
keeps
going
on
and
there's
other
things
that
I'm
not
going
to
discuss
here.
That
I
believe,
are
at
play.
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Let's
address
some
of
the
other
claims
that
were
not
addressed
before
claims,
the
fences
have
been
built
from
and
constructed
from
used
materials.
That's
true,
the
corn
crib.
I
said
that
was
taken
down
the
man
recycled
that
and
used
it
for
some
of
his
fencing,
there's
absolutely
no
code
against
using
recycled
materials
or
used
materials.
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I
do
not
believe
that's
true
either
the
when
mr
sun
started
complaining
about
the
cow
waste
leaking
onto
his
property,
the
man
did
put
a
small
berm
along
his
fence.
We
believe
it
to
be
dirt.
It
looks
to
be
dirt,
it
does
not
look
to
be
manure
and
the
health
department
was
out
there
to
look
at
all
of
this
and
they
have
not
found
an
issue.
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Final
conclusion,
property
is
agriculturally
exempt
from
our
zoning
ordinance
and
our
building
codes.
It
complies
with
our
zoning
ordinance,
even
though
it
doesn't
have
to
the
buildings
are
exempt
from
our
code.
Our
building
code,
the
property
and
its
farm
operation
are
protected
by
state
statute
and
he
has
recourse
if
he
doesn't
believe
this
interpretation,
if
he'd
like
to
there
are
avenues
for
him
to
take.
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I
asked
you
know:
we
talked
been
talking
about
this
in
between
meetings
and
and
kind
of
scratching
our
heads,
because
a
lot
of
board
members
come
up.
Ask
questions,
and
I
appreciate
you
putting
this
together
after
we
talked.
This
is
not
a
problem.
It
was
exhaustive.
You
could
tell
that
we
have
devoted
not
only
for
this
presentation
and
for
the
time
that
you've
taken
to
talk
with
the
gentleman
in
the
office
with
the
hours
multiple
days
going
out
there
looking
at
the
property-
it's
not
like.
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I
know
of
a
couple
neighbors
in
mantino
that
had
some
issues
and
it
seems
like
it
might
be
something
personal
going
on
there
and
they
were
offered
through
the
police
department
arbitration
which,
unfortunately,
by
one
side,
was
declined,
but
is
that
an
option,
maybe
through
the
sheriff's
department?
Maybe
somebody
could
ask
that
I.