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Planning, Zoning & Agriculture Committee Meeting 06/16/2021 9:00 AM
A
B
A
Okay,
thank
you.
We
have
a
public
comment,
we're
going
to
start
with.
Today
we
had
a
zoom
thing,
but
I
I
thought
I
saw
kimberly
here.
Was
she
here?
Oh,
I
thought
you
were
back
there.
You
know
you're
going
okay,
good.
Okay,
we
have
some
public
comment.
First,
I'm
gonna
go
with
mr
saint
aubin,
first
and
step
right
over
there
to
the
microphone
on
the
side.
There
I
got
it
turned
on
for
you,
okay,
please
state
your
name
and
give
your
address.
Let
everybody
know
where
you're
from
and
everything.
C
Greg
st
aubin
483
west
division
street
in
mantino-
I'm
here
today
as
a
representative
of
mantino
township,
but
I'm
going
to
speak
for
the
township.
However,
we
do
have
the
road
commissioner
here
if
you'd
like
to
make
further
comments.
C
We
were
notified
one
week
ago
yesterday
that
there
was
supposed
to
be
a
zoning
meeting
in
regards
to
changing
industrial
part
of
illinois
diversitech
to
multi-family
residents.
So
we've
had
very
little
time
to
prepare
for
what
we've
done.
The
zba
also
had
a
meeting
on
monday
night
in
which
they
did
approve,
and
I
understand
as
a
member
of
government,
that
your
initial
committees
are
important
for
fact-finding.
C
So
I
understand
that,
but
it
was
not
a
unanimous
vote,
as
the
vote
was
four
to
two
in
favor
of
the
zoning
change,
illinois
diversitech
was
put
into
place
and
this
full
county
board
accepted
the
plan.
The
master
plan
for
illinois,
diverse
tech
back
in
1996.
illinois
diversitech,
was
supposed
to
be
single
family
and
industrial.
C
Complex
mantino
township
had
to
take
over
all
the
roads
within
that
area.
The
residents
of
illinois
diversity
campus
have
no
representation
within
the
village.
Their
only
representation
is
through
the
county
and
whatever
township
services
that
we
can
provide
for
them.
C
They
have
asked
for
a
zoning
change
for
the
industrial,
I'm
sorry,
the
administrative
building
formerly
owned
by
homestar
bank,
known
owned
by
midland
bank
to
a
28
unit
apartment
building.
We
don't
believe
that
the
zoning
board.
We
do
not
believe
that
the
petitioner
met
the
burden
of
proof
with
high-density
residents.
C
First
of
all,
it
is
against
the
master
plan
of
illinois,
diverse
tech
to
have
multi-family
dwellings
in
there.
As
a
member
of
the
township
and
speaking
for
the
road
commissioner,
we
have
had
countless
numbers
of
complaints
they
that
the
residents
out
there
have
no
one
to
go
to,
except
for
mancino
township
in
the
county,
any
number
of
complaints
as
far
as
snow
removal
and
why
the
streets
were
not
taken
care
of
in
time.
We
recognized
that
the
streets
out
there
are
not
legal.
They
were
never
meant
to
hold
many
as
many
residents.
C
It
was
originally
meant
to
hold
employees.
So
none
of
the
streets
out
there
at
illinois,
diverse
tech,
are
of
legal
width.
There's
really
no
place
to
park
in
in
that
area.
So
we
are
inundated
continually
with
with
people
who
are
concerned
about
the
roadways
out
there.
Secondly,
when
illinois
diverse
tech
campus
was
built
into
single-family
homes,
many
of
the
builders
out
there
had
promised
the
residents
they
would
put
homeowners
associate.
C
Students
in
there
are
several
complexes
out
there
that
had
our
single-family
homes
that,
but
they
were
built
with
a
single
driveway,
which
means
their
private
property
and
township
has
no
authority
to
plow
those
driveways.
We
get
many
many
calls
of
why
we
can't
get
out
of
our
driveway,
and
we
have
to
inform
them
that,
unfortunately,
because
there's
no
homeowners
association,
no
one
taking
care
of
the
parking
lots
out
there,
because
they're
all
privately
owned
that
they
really
have
no
services.
C
So
we've
been
inundated
with
complaints
with
residents
out
there
by
adding
28
apartments
and
adding,
let's
say
assuming.
Everyone
has
two
cars,
adding
that
many
cars
out
into
that
area.
The
parking
lot
suggests
it
only
holds
18
cars.
We
were
only
informed,
I
believe,
by
the
zoning
board,
because
they
are
encroaching
on
mantino
township
park
property
and
they
would
need
our
approval
of
the
board
in
order
to
go
forward.
So
that
we
could
sell
our
park
property,
which,
according
to
a
straw
poll,
will
will
not
pass
our
board,
we
are
concerned.
C
There's
they
are
industries
out
there
that
have
been
not
mining,
speed
limits.
We've
been
called
by
the
sheriff
many
times
the
sheriff
has
gone
out
there,
taking
radar
the
residents
out
there.
When
we
see
people
going
60
and
70
miles
an
hour
on
those
small
streets,
they
have
complained,
rightly
so,
there's
nothing.
We
could
do
about
it.
Every
time.
There's
a
complaint
about
speed.
We
have
to
say
to
call
the
sheriff.
C
Obviously
the
sheriff's
department
is
busy.
They
can't
have
an
officer
out
there
at
all
times.
We
believe
that
the
zoning
that
has
been
asked
for
is
not
only
against
the
illinois
diverse
tech's
original
charter,
but
is
also
does
not
meet
the
zoning.
C
We
believe
it
does
not
meet
the
density
requirements
that
the
zoning
board
approved.
With
that
in
mind,
mr
commissioner,
would
you
like
to
say
anything
thanks
very
much?
Thank
you.
A
D
Boland
I
represent
mr
lesage
he's
one
of
them.
D
All
right,
I'm
christopher
boland,
I
represent
mr
sage
and
st
george
ag.
We
are
the
petitioner
in
one
of
the
zoning
board
cases
before
you
today.
Unless
you
have
questions,
that's
what
we're
here,
for
we
don't
need
to
make
any
public
comment.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
My
name
is
dave
barron.
I
am
an
attorney
for
duncan
homes,
who
is
the
applicant
on
the
residential
reconversion,
rezoning
request
related
to
the
property
at
diversitech,
as
you
read
through
the
materials
you'll
be
informed
that
this
is
the
former
headquarters
of
the
mantino
state
hospital.
Then
it
became
the
headquarters,
the
administration
building
for
midland
bank
and
prior
to
that
it
was
homestar.
When
midland
purchased
homestar
it
became
unused.
It
became
a
vacant
property
in
2019..
E
It
has
not
been
used
since
that
point.
The
we
have
spoken
with
the
broker
for
midland
states
bank.
My
client's
contract
to
purchase
the
property
is
the
only
contract
that
has
been
presented
for
that
property
in
the
last
two
years.
It
does
speak
to
the
the
level
of
demand
for
this
type
of
structure.
As
you
can
see
from
the
report
that
has
been
presented
to
you.
This
is
a
beautiful
historic,
architecturally,
significant
property.
E
It
is
one
that
my
client
duncan
holmes
is
a
developer.
They
would
be
seeking
to
have
landmark
status
granted
for
this
property.
Not
only
does
that
ensure
that
certain
architectural
features
are
maintained.
It
also
opens
up
a
number
of
historic
tax
credits
to
allow
for
the
redevelopment
of
this
type
of
property.
We
did
have
the
the
privilege
of
meeting
with
mantino
township
representatives
prior
to
the
zba
hearing
did
hear
a
number
of
their
concerns.
We
do
think
that
we
we
have
addressed
them
in
particular
parking.
E
What
was
mentioned
a
minute
ago.
There
are
currently
29
spots
located
on
the
properties
that
would
be
purchased
by
duncan
homes.
What
we
would
be
purchasing
as
well
as
a
lot
to
the
south.
That
includes
a
large
amount
of
room
for
additional
parking
spots
to
be
put
in
as
needed
to
comply
with
county
requirements
for
multi-unit
parking.
We
also
presented
a
declaration
and
covenants
that
would
be
recorded,
thereby
allowing
for
off-site
parking
in
compliance
with
the
county
code.
E
Also,
with
respect
to
parking,
we
intend
to
make
certain
amenities
that
would
make
that
those
parking
spots
more
attractive
assigned
parking
covered
parking
so
that
people
are
not
utilizing
the
parking
on
the
public
way,
but
they
are
able
to
actually
use
the
parking
that's
been
assigned
to
them.
So
we
don't
believe
that
parking
would
be
an
issue.
One
of
the
conditions
that
was
made
by
the
zba
is
that
we
would
add
a
crosswalk
so
that
it
would
alleviate
so
many
any
pedestrian
congestion
problems
and
signage
to
to
make
those
a
safe
corner.
E
One
point
with
respect
to
what
was
mentioned
before
about
density.
We
are
seeking
a
variance
as
to
the
density
requirements
that
is
permitted
by
county
code.
That
is
not
something
that
is
contrary
to
what
the
requirements
are.
Also,
there
have
been
a
number
of
points
raised
about
density
concerns,
haven't
been
able
to
articulate
what
those
concerns
actually
are
in
our
mind,
density
actually
serves
a
benefit.
E
What
we
are
proposing
here
is
a
different
type
of
housing,
something
that
is
not
typically
seen
in
kankakee
county.
You
have
in
the
packet
one
of
the
exhibits
that
we
presented
a
letter
from
tim
nugent,
who
is
the
executive
director
of
the
economic
alliance,
who
identified
a
number
of
studies
that
have
shown
that
there
needs
to
be
a
new
type
of
housing
in
kankakee
county
if
we're
going
to
continue
to
attract
people
attract
more
folks,
dustin
holmes
has
presented
an
idea
to
do
that
with
a
historic,
significant
property.
E
As
we
enter
into
this
new
phase,
post
covid
commercial,
real
estate
is
not
going
to
be
what
it
used
to
be.
People
are
not
going
to
necessarily
be
working
in
office
settings
in
the
way
that
they
used
to
be.
We
need
to
take
a
hard
look
at
some
of
our
historic
properties,
even
where
there
are
some
variances
and
rezonings
that
are
required
to
be
able
to
make
the
best
use
of
those
properties.
E
A
A
Anyone
have
any
questions,
additions
or
deletions
that
need
to
take
place,
if
not
I'll,
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
miss
peters,
second,
by
oh
kimberly,
hudson
all
in
favor,
say
hi
all
right.
Nobody
on
zoom
we're
good.
A
Okay,
we
have
the
building
report
up
next,
I'd
like
to
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
dell's
building
report
and
we'll
get
it
first
and
second,
mr
okay,
colton
your
second
ray
first
and
second.
F
You
should
have
the
should
have
the
building
report
for
may
2021
in
your
packet.
We
issued
99
building
permits
in
may.
Two
of
those
were
new
houses.
Three
of
those
were
industrial
brought
in
total
revenue
of
fifty
nine
thousand
seven
hundred
and
sixty
eight
dollars.
That
is
up
substantially
from
may
2020.
We
issued
98
permits
and
had
revenue
of
twenty
four
thousand
one
hundred
and
sixty
nine
dollars.
A
Anybody
have
any
questions
for
dell.
Okay,
firing
done
all
in
favor,
say
aye
ocean
approved.
Thank
you
right
kelly.
It's
all
good
right.
Okay,
all
opposed
none;
okay,
thanks!
Okay!
Next
up,
we
have
planning,
we
have
zba
case
21-03
requests
for
rezoning
from
i2
general
industrial
district
and
r2
high
density,
residential
district,
special
use,
permit
number,
six
and
five
variants,
slot
size
density,
maximum
floor
area
ratio,
front
setback
and
building
height
on
a
partial
generally
situated
in
section
26
of
mantino
township.
The
petitioners
are
midland
state
bank
property
owner
and
duncan
homes,
inc
applicant.
A
A
A
A
F
F
Dustin
homes
incorporated
would
like
to
purchase
these
properties
and
convert
the
administration
building
in
the
red
outline
into
a
28
unit
apartment
building,
possibly
with
a
gym
in
it,
and
some
common
rooms
the
in
order
to
do
that
they
are
requesting
rezoning
from
i2
general
industrial.
The
entire
diversitech
campus
is
zoned
i2
general
industrial,
with
a
planned
unit
development
attached
to
it.
So
I
like
to
rezone
it
from
the
i2
to
r2,
which
is
high
density
residential.
F
They
are
also
asking
for
a
special
use
permit
for
multifamily,
which
is
a
special
use
permit
under
the
i2
district,
and
they
are
asking
for
five
variances,
mainly
because
the
building
is
existing
and
does
not
meet
current
requirements.
The
variances
are
lot
size
density,
maximum
floor
area,
florida
area
ratio,
front
setback
and
building
height.
F
They
would
like
to
build
28
apartment
units
within
that
property.
It
does
have
some
parking
on
the
property.
I
don't
know
the
exact
count
somewhere,
probably
around
10
spaces
and
then
there's
a
parking
area
across
across
the
street,
based
on
our
code
depending
on
the
size
of
the
apartments.
If
they're,
eight
800
square
feet
or
larger
two
spaces
per
apartment
is
required.
If
it's
800
feet
or
less,
it
is
1.5
parking
spaces
either
way.
I
believe
they
would
have
to
add
some
parking
to
that
southern
lot
to
meet
the
meet
the
requirements.
F
F
Yeah,
I
think
we
go
with
questions
after
that.
D
A
F
H
It
is
the
petitioner
president
to
answer
these
questions.
I
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
These
the
intention
would
for
these
to
be
rentals
apartment
rentals.
We
did
present
testimony
at
the
the
zba
from
mr
coy,
who
is
the
president,
the
owner
of
duncan
homes,
who
is
here
today
as
well.
The
estimated
range
would
be
slightly
above
market
rate.
It
would
be
between
thirteen
hundred
and
seventeen
hundred
dollars,
depending
on
whether
it
is
a
one
single
one
bedroom
or
a
one
bedroom
plus
loft.
E
The
intention
is
to
add
a
number
of
amenities
that
make
those
particular
types
of
apartments
worthwhile.
Then
we
think
that
there
are
demand
and
studies
that
demonstrate
that
that
need
is
present.
I
You,
mr
chairman,
what
are
the
sizes
of
the
apartments
because
he
talked
about
800
square
feet
requiring
two
parking
places?
So
what's
the
kind
of
breakdown
on
the
sizes.
E
So
we
do
not
have
a
specific
designation
yet
as
to
what
the
particular
sizes
of
the
the
various
units,
obviously
the
one
bedroom
would
be
a
bit
smaller
than
the
one
bedrooms
plus
lofts,
the
one
bedroom
plus
lofts
are
going
to
be.
On
the
first
floor,
where
there
is
a
17
foot
ceiling,
that's
primarily
where
those
would
be
located,
but
I
do
not
have
exact
specifications
as
to
room
sizes.
At
this
point.
A
Thank
you,
mr
barron.
I'd
like
to
gilbert
was
at
the
mr
skimmerhorn
was
at
the
meeting
and
understood
the
questions
that
were
asked
there.
Some
of
these
were
asked
at
the
same
time.
Does
anyone
else
have
any
just
wanted
questions
for
them?.
A
I
believe
that
the
park
is
designated
as
a
park,
but
I
really
don't
believe
it's
a
park,
mr
myers,
here
yeah.
We
can't
ask
it.
You
know.
F
If
you
look
to
the
left
and
the
right
of
that
red
square,
that
is,
the
land
between
diverse
tech,
drive,
north
and
diverse
tech,
drive
south
is,
I
believe,
owned
by
mantino
township
and
is
utilized
as
park
land.
This
does
not
encroach
into
that
park.
Land
it
does.
The
building
does
encroach
into
the
public
right
of
way.
F
That's
that's
another
issue,
though,
between
the
property
owner
and
mentino
township,
who
owns
the
right-of-way
and
not
really
a
zoning
issue,
but
it
it
does
encroach
into
the
bright
way
but
not
into
the
park.
A
J
That
they've
had
out
so
far,
and
some
and
and
some
of
the
statements
that
are
made
so
so
far,
is
there
a
homeowners
association
that
has
been
developed
for
the
area
out
there
for
the
residents
that
are
out
there
now
and
owners.
J
F
All
right,
I
cannot
speak
that
all
the
different
developments
have
homeowners
associations
or
not.
I
do
know
some
of
them
do
not
yeah.
Yes,
okay,
I
can't
speak
for
all
of
them.
I
do
know
that
I
think
it's
oak
terrace
is
one
in
particular
that
was
supposed
to
create
a
homeowners
association
and
then
that
never
got
that
never
occurred.
I
think
because
the
developer
went
bankrupt.
J
F
F
Typically,
homeowners
associations
are
are
are
within
a
subdivision.
In
fact,
our
new
subdivision
ordinance
that
was
written
in
2008
requires
a
homeowners
association.
Now
most
of
those
would
create
all
of
those
were
created
prior
to
that,
but
this
is
not
a
subdivision.
So
therefore,
it's
a
single
ownership
piece
of
property,
so
there
would
I,
I
can't
think
of
a
reason
why
a
homeowners
association
would
be
necessary
there
or
be
required.
A
Okay,
so
dell,
my
questions
are
limited,
so
I
have
a
couple
danny.
Do
you
have
anything
else,
mr
wheeler
or
anything
else?
Okay?
I
I
have
a
couple
questions
here.
Yeah
you
got
you're
gonna.
Have
I
don't
know
how
many
you
can
put
on
the
second
floor,
how
many
on
the
first
floor,
but
you
have
an
elevator
there
been
in
it.
It's
not
it's
like
about
the
size
of
ours.
A
I
believe
I'm
not
sure,
I'm
just
aware
of
that
that
the
people
are
going
to
want
to
go
up
and
down
an
elevator,
whether
it
they
can
become
ada
compliant.
The
other
thing
I'm
concerned
with
is
the
parking
they
tell
us.
It's
2.2
cars
per
house-
usually
that's
the
number
I
was
always
given,
and
then
I
was
also
told
that
every
house,
every
single
family,
residence
or
her
area
has
nine
movements
per
day
per
vehicle.
A
So
if
we
have
48
48
vehicles
times,
nine
is
roughly
what
30
360
cars
a
day
shooting
in
and
out
of
there
the
way
it
is
right
now
when,
when
the
bank
was
there,
people
would
fly
out
to
go
out
to
the
west
because
nobody
ever
went
to
the
east
to
leave
it
because
mantino
was
that
way.
A
Everything
is
that
way
they
go
to
boudreau,
I
believe,
is
that
the
name
of
the
street
there
then
they'll,
shoot
over
and
they
can
use
the
new
interchange
but
they're
not
going
to
go
that
way
if
they're
going
north,
so
they're
going
to
go
through
mantino
yeah.
A
So
I
had
several
concerns
here,
but
if
the
board
has
any
other
questions,
I
entertain
them.
So
I
entertain
a
motion
here.
I'd
like
to
yes,
mr
wheeler,.
H
This
is
kind
of
where
this
is
where
my
my
head
is
going.
I
do
agree,
there
is
a
need
for
this
type
of
housing,
but
it
it
always
with
this
type
of
housing.
It.
The
studies
that
we
see
currently
for
the
the
targeted
demographics
to
to
move
and
live
in
the
area.
They
want
amenities
around
their
home.
They
don't
want
to
mow
the
lawn.
They
want.
Somebody
lawnmow
the
lawn
mowed
for
them.
H
They
don't
mind
living
in
these
type
of
developments,
but
there's
no
ancillary
use
around
this
property,
that's
concerning
because
it
is
somewhat
of
an
island
in
that
area,
so
the
other.
The
other
concerns
I
have
are
are
on
the
the
width
of
the
road
people
need
to
keep
in
mind.
This
is
in
the
county,
so
there
is
no
expectation
there
should.
None
should
be
inferred
that
our
highway
department's
going
to
go
plow
out
there.
H
The
the
second
thing
is:
is
that
we're
the
police
force
and
with
the
state
taking
five
million
dollars
away
from
us
a
couple
weeks
ago
per
year?
By
the
way,
I
would
really
like
to
hear
from
the
sheriff
on
the
public
safety
side
of
this.
H
Are
we
going
to
be
adequately
able
to
police
this
area
today,
let
alone,
if
there's
another,
you
know
28
times,
2.2
residents,
if
you
will
per
per
unit,
so
my
suggestion
would
be
to
table
until
we
get
some
type
of
a
a
discussion
with
the
sheriff
and
input
from
law
enforcement
and
and
any
other
types
of
things
that
are
surrounding
you
know
the
the
actual
width
of
the
road
is
concerning
as
well
because
people
park
on
the
road.
H
You
know
I'd
love
to
see
a
letter
from
the
the
park
district
saying
that
they've
agreed
to
convey
the
land
pending
a
sale
because
right
now
I
don't
necessarily
think
that
that
is
going
to
be
the
case.
Then
we
don't
have
the
parking
capabilities,
as
mentioned
in
here.
So
for
the
reasons
of
of
c
on
the
list
here
and
also
I
had
noted
sorry,
it's
the
way.
This
is
unfold
backwards,
e
I'd
love
to
hear
from
the
sheriff
on
this
yeah.
That's
just
my
own
opinion.
I
won't
make
the
motion.
F
A
K
The
zoning
board
of
appeals
approved
this
and
it's
my
understanding
that
when
they
did
that
that
any
objectors
had
the
opportunity
to
come
to
this
particular
meeting
to
discuss
the
ill
wills
or
the
pros
and
cons
if
they
so
chose,
and
so
I
believe
that
the
reason
that
we
put
these
boards
in
place
sometime
is
to
kind
of
thrash
out
all
of
that
before
it
gets
to
the
board.
K
So
at
this
point,
if
there's
any
additional
concerns,
we,
if
the
board
so
too,
they
can
approve
it
with
the
recommendation
that
it's
it.
K
It
is
reviewed
by
the
state's
attorney
or
the
sheriff
as
far
as
any
of
our
specific
concerns,
but
at
some
point
we
should
have
engaged
prior
to
it
getting
to
the
board
and
once
the
zoning
board
of
appeals
have
basically
stated
42
that
they
wanted
to
prove,
I
don't
see
why
we
could
stand
in
the
way
other
than
because
from
what
I'm
hearing
is
not
a
lot
of
major
things.
It's
just
it's
just
some
minor
concerns.
A
J
Is
this
motion?
It's
a
second
for
the
for
the
motion
to
have
it
taken
back
to
the
zoning
committee.
Yes,
sir,
have
some
of
these
smaller
problems
rehashed?
Yes,
yes,
because
I
I
think
this
is
a
very
good
project
and
could
be
very
beneficial
to
our
community
to
the
community
there.
I
know
I've
been
out
there
several
times,
so
I
think
we
we
have
some
problems
here,
some
issues
that
we
need
to
have
hashed
out
before
we,
so
I
would
approve
that.
I
would
second,
that
that
motion.
A
J
A
A
Okay
miller,
oh
sorry,
miller,
swanson;
second,
okay,
okay,
dell,
you'd
like
to
go
over
this
one
with
us.
A
Oh,
I
forgot
I
wasn't
looking.
I
was
thinking
of
something
else.
F
Mr
lesage
and
st
george
ag
service
owns
the
property
just
to
the
left
of
the
parcel,
are
highlighted
in
red
on
the
screen
where
they
operate
a
truck
trailer
storage
business.
That
property
is
zoned
i2
and
has
been
for
since
1999..
F
F
To
accomplish
this,
the
20
acres
highlighted
in
red
would
need
to
be
rezoned
to
i2
general
industrial,
just
like
the
existing
yard
had
a
public
hearing
on
this
monday
night.
Mr
meyer,
the
mantino
township
road
commissioner,
stated
that
there
are
already
a
lot
of
trucks
on
3000
east
road
and
was
not
sure
that
it
could
handle
too
many
more.
He
stated
that
it
was
overlaid
two
years
ago
and
is
already
in
need
of
repair.
F
Mr
lesage
responded
to
that
comment
by
saying
that
he
did
not
feel
the
truck
traffic
would
increase
because
they
are
currently
utilizing
other
storage
lots
in
the
area
that
they
are
leasing
and
that
this
would
just
consolidate
them
here.
So
the
number
of
trucks
on
the
road
would
be
about
the
same,
but
they
would
be
concentrated
a
little
more
in
this
area.
F
F
Zoning
board
of
appeals
made
a
recommendation
to
approve
the
rezoning
with
a
vote
of
six
to
zero.
Okay.
A
Miss
peters,
I'm
we
got
to
kind
of
stay
to
our
group
here.
We
can't
call
people
from
the
audience
as
a
witness,
I
believe
in
the
zoning
board.
They
had
the
opportunity
to
do
all
that
stuff,
so
we
can
only
discuss
it
amongst
ourselves.
Okay,
I
believe.
That's
really
is
that.
I
To
be
spelled
out
all
right,
I
believe
most
of
the
trailers
are
empty
that
are
stored
there
and
coming
down
the
road
they're
empty.
Yes,
semis
are
detrimental
to
roads,
but
usually
because
of
the
weight
that
they're
carrying
and
these
are
empty
trailers.
So
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that.
That's
my
assumption.
So
that's
why.
A
Else,
no,
that
would
be
new
testament.
That
would
be
new
testimony.
We
would
have
had
to
go
in
front
of
the
zoning
board
of
appeals.
Sorry,
borrowing,
no
more
any
more
questions
is,
let's
see
we
got
a
says:
we
have
to
do
a
voice
vote.
So
pardon
me:
okay,
we
get
a
roll
call
vote
for
that.
B
A
A
F
Dell,
you
should
have
a
copy
of
the
agreement
in
your
packet.
I
don't
know
if
you're
aware
of
this
or
not,
but
the
gis
department
is
basically
a
one-man
department.
It
is
myself
and
it
is
daniel
bishop
who
does
most
of
the
day-to-day
operations
of
the
gis.
I
pretty
much
just
oversee
it.
Mr
bishop
has
given
me
his
letter
of
resignation
with
his
last
day
being
june.
25Th
we
will
be
moving
well.
F
We
have
offered
the
position
to
jeffrey
olson,
who
has
accepted
it,
but
during
the
transition
period
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
are
covered
to
keep
the
gis
running
at
at
full
levels.
F
So
we've
contacted
a
couple
of
different
gis
providers
and
have
determined
that
bruce
harrison
associates
was
the
was
the
cheapest
and
qualified
to
accomplish
this
so
as
an
insurance
policy
to
make
sure
that
nothing
goes
wrong
and
that
we
have
somebody
that
we
can
call
if
something
does
go
wrong
that
either
I
or
jeffrey
cannot
handle
or
fix.
F
We
would
like
to
enter
into
this
agreement
with
bruce
harris.
Okay,
it
is,
it
is
not
for
a
set
dollar
amount,
it
is
for
an
hourly.
They
will
give
us
an
estimate
on
what
the
hours
would
take
if
there
is
an
issue
and
then
we
would
decide
whether
we
wanted
to
handle
yourself
hire
them
or
find
a
different
way.
Yes,
okay.
I
A
I
A
Are
these
people
going
to
have
an
issue
if
they
don't
get
very
much
work,
or
is
this
they're
going
to
want
to
do
it
every
day
for
forever
or
is
this?
Did
you
tell
them
what
we're
going.
F
F
H
This
was
more
like
in
case
of
emergency
brake
glass
yep
because,
as
we
get
up
to
speed
and
and
people
fully
learn
the
architecture
and
how
to
maintain
all
of
that
ourselves,
things
that
daniel
had
really
almost
coming
into
the
job
in
a
way
he
had
a
lot
of
knowledge
coming
in,
but
hone
those
skills.
Here,
it's
the
same
thing.
We
got
to
give
jeff
an
opportunity
to
get
up
to
speed,
and
so,
if
something
crashes
or
if
there's
a
major
overhaul
needed,
then
we've
got
someone
to
do
it.
H
A
F
K
So
is
your
in
your
professional
opinion?
This
is
the
this
organization
is
the
most
kind
of
cost
efficient.
Given
the
needs
of
the
gis
department,
they
are
very
qualified.
A
A
D
A
You,
okay!
Next
up,
we
have
the
transportation
update
rural
transit
title
six
plan
update.
I
believe
mr
wilson
is
here
to
give
us
a
little
run
down
here.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I'm
going
to
start
with
so
and
the
request
would
they
typically
get
from
the
chairman
this.
G
A
G
You're
right
sure,
so
I'm
just
going
to
hold
it
up
in
here
there
we
go.
D
G
Is
the
civil
right
x,
civil
rights
act
in
1964?
Title
vi
is
the
anti-discrimination
portion
of
this,
and
this
has
been
now
in
front
of
this
committee.
I
think
four
times
and
we've
been
back
and
forth
on
this
a
couple
times.
My
most
recent
was
bringing
to
you
through
our
by
biannual
I
dot
review
that
the
show,
bus
policies
and
postings
should
be
limited
to
the
title
six
components
as
far
as
our
what
we're
saying
we
would
not
discriminate
against.
They
wanted
us
to
remove
that
and
say
we
just
don't
discriminate
at
all.
G
Now
we
have,
in
our
current
title
vi
policy
that
we
don't
discriminate
against
age,
race,
religion,
national
origin,
sex.
They
just
want
it
to
be
three
items
so
we're
the
current
flavor
of
the
week
is
to
just
have
these
three
pieces
in,
and
this
is
what
title
six
is
defined
as,
and
so
I
was
talking
through
this
with
jeff
a
couple
days
ago.
G
I
not
approved
the
previous
policy
in
2019,
we're
now
into
the
2021
policy,
so
at
the
staff
level
we're
going
to
be
making
the
changes
requested
by
idot
we're
going
to
be
updating
things
and
posting
to
our
website.
G
I
will
furnish
you
a
copy
of
the
updated
policy,
but
essentially
what
we
did
was
we
removed
three
words
from
our
policy
to
make
it
compliant
with
the
current
request
of
of
idot,
and
this
is
kind
of
ever
evolving,
depending
on
who's
at
the
helm,
but
it
does
feel
like
we
do
a
little
bit
more
of
this,
maybe
than
we
should
I
fundamentally
for
us
for
our
our
drivers
and
whatever
vendor
we're
utilizing.
We
do
not
discriminate
against
anybody.
G
For
anything
I
mean,
and
that's
that's
just
how
we
operate,
but
currently,
under
this
plan
that
is
adopted
by
the
county,
we
are
going
to
be
listing.
Those
three
items
that
we
do
not
discriminate
against
and
that'll
be
all
that
will
be
listed
in
our
title
six
plan,
so
we're
making
the
update,
as
requested
by
our
funding
agency,
which
is
what
you
typically
do,
but
I
just
I
feel
like
I'm
here
a
lot
talking
about
this,
and
I
want
you
to
know
that
I'm
not
crazy
or
well,
I'm
not
completely
crazy.
A
K
G
G
If
you
need
information
from
the
from
insurance
information
or
through
the
you
know,
the
eoc
and
all
of
those
all
that's
posted
like
your
rights
as
a
worker,
that's
supposed
for
us
on
the
second
floor,
I'm
sure
that's
posted
several
other
locations
throughout
the
county,
but
this
is
just
specifically
for
that
title,
six
program
to
make
sure
that
the
language
is
matching.
The
current
request.
G
A
F
I've
gotten
a
lot
of
questions
about
zba
case
19-15,
which
is
the
o'connor
heavy
processing
facility.
F
I
wanted
to
report
that
I
did
inspect
the
property
on
june
4th
and
found
that
they
were
in
compliance
with
all
eight
of
their
conditions.
On
that
I
do
have
a
copy
of
the
report
up
here.
If
anyone
would
like
that.
F
Yes,
that
was
going
to
yeah,
we
have
those
I
was
going
to
get
that.
That
was
going
to
be
my
next.
We
had
some
very
nice
looking
magnets
made
up
to
advertise
our
e-waste
recycling
program.
I
have
a
box
of
them
here.
If
anybody
would
like
any
to
hand
out
to
anybody,
they
would
like.
I
personally
have
been
sticking
them
on
anything
that
they'll
stick
to
myself,
but
they're
very
effective.
I
think
mr
wheeler
handed
some
out
to
our
municipal
partners
tonight
always
tonight,
so
we
have
them.
A
L
D
Thanks,
mr
chairman,
hey
dell,
can
you
give
us
an
update
on
the
four
houses
out
by
shamrock.
F
The
gerard
property
is
down
leveled
and
we're
just
waiting
for
the
bills
to
come
in
and
the
paperwork
once
we
turn
all
of
that
into
idnr
and
get
reimbursed
for
those
costs.
We
will
start
on
the
next
two.
It's
actually
three
houses:
okay,
we're
not
getting
the
fourth,
the
fourth
one
was
sold
and
the
new
owners
do
not
want
to
participate.
So
thank.
A
F
No,
that
particular
house
was
livable.
Okay,
we
added
it
to
the
list
because
we
had
three
in
a
row,
and
this
was
the
last
one
between
those
three
and
the
park
land,
okay,
and
it
did
have
some
claims
on
it.
So
dnr
did
let
us
include
it,
but
in
the
meantime
it
is
sold
and
people
are
living
in
it.
Okay,
well.