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A
A
Let
the
record
reflect,
we
do
have
a
quorum
and
our
duly
constituted
to
do
business
at
this
time.
I'll
entertain
a
motion
to
accept
the
minutes.
From
the
last
meeting
motion,
there's
been
a
motion
made
in
the
second
any
discussion
on
the
motion.
All
those
in
favor
use
the
voting
sign
of
I.
Anyone
against
the
motion
say,
nay,
very
well.
Let
the
record
reflect
that.
The
minutes
from
our
last
meeting
are
adopted.
A
Mr
chair.
Do
you?
Have
anybody
you'd
like
to
introduce?
Are
there
any
members
of
the
committee
who
have
any
special
introductions
very
well?
We
will
move
on
to
the
we're
actually
going
to
do
the
number
four
item
on
our
agenda
first,
because
we
have
some
very
special
guests
here
for
that
for
that
item
on
the
agenda.
It's
my
high
honor
is
the
chairman
of
this
committee
to
introduce
the
ambassador
to
Cambodia
is
with
us
this
morning
the
ambassador
to
the
United
States
from
Cambodia
Mr
Ambassador.
A
Welcome
to
this
committee,
I'm
very
excited
about
this
legislation
and
I've
been
working
with
the
bill
sponsor
now
for
some
time
to
hopefully
come
to
an
agreement
for
this
session
on
on
a
way
we
can
move
forward.
I
have
to
tell
you
I've
visited
several
several
pla,
several
of
these
salons
or
shops
since
we've
been
under
discussion
and
have
been
very
impressed
with
the
character
and
hard-working
hard-working
people
that
are
in
those
facilities,
so
welcome
Senator.
A
This
is
your
bill,
so
introduce
yourself
for
the
record:
have
your
guests
enter?
You
can
either
introduce
them
or
have
them
introduce
themselves.
We've
allotted
15
minutes
for
this
discussion.
Okay,.
D
Thank
you,
chairman,
schickel
and
I
really
appreciate
you
allowing
me
to
introduce
this
bill.
As
you
indicated,
you
and
I
have
been
working
together
and
I
really
hope
that
we
can.
We
can
come
to
some
consensus
about
this
bill.
D
I
think
it's
important
to
send
a
signal
to
the
people
of
Kentucky
that
individuals,
like
you
and
I,
who
do
a
great
job
of
representing
our
constituencies
and
expressing
our
voice
in
ways
that
we
think
are
important,
can
come
together
and
work
together
for
something
that's
good
for
the
people
of
Kentucky
and
good
for
our
nation.
So
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
our
continued
partnership
in
this
endeavor.
Let
me
introduce
Our
Guest
this
morning.
I
have
women
who's
going
to
lead
off.
D
D
She's,
a
great
English
speaker,
absolutely
she
will.
She
will
be
followed
by
Mr
Michael
Carter.
There.
E
D
The
end
Mr
Michael
Carter
will
be
our
third
speaker
and
then
our
closer
I
told
her.
She
could
use
those
baseball.
E
D
And
the
Reds,
the
reds
are,
are
doing
great
this
year
it's
Miss
lyanna
Wynn
and
you
spell
win
n
g.
U
help
me
out
here.
A
Very
well,
a
few
guidelines
like
I,
said
before
we
had
15
minutes
now
we
have
14
minutes
allotted
for
this
discussion.
It's
important
when
we
have
a
big
panel
at
the
table
to
remember
during
your
testimony,
it's
not
necessary
to
repeat
testimony
of
something
that
someone
else
has
said.
This
committee
loves
facts,
but
we
also
love
conciseness.
Welcome
to
this
committee.
It
looks
like
a
very
distinguished,
commit
committee
and
proceed
with
your
testimony.
F
I
Am
Curling
a
certified
nail,
techs
and
also
representing
the
aapi
community
today
and
the
member
committee.
We
would
like
to
propose
the
new
bill
regarding
the
new
policy
in
the
nail
industry.
First
currently,
board
members
are
all
must
hold
cosmetology
license
so,
first
off
we
would
like
the
Eliza
Nail
Tech
to
the
president
of
board
member
because
they
first
they
know
firsthand
the
concern
of
the
salon
owner
and
employee.
F
Second,
we
would
like
to
have
a
written
exam
in
multiple
language,
such
as
Cambodian,
Vietnamese
and
Chinese,
exam
interpreters,
unlimited
retake
and
a
cap
in
testing
fee.
The
current
regulations
have
removed
the
ability
for
all
the
applicant
to
immediately
retake
the
test,
but
after
three
failed
attempts,
they
must
wait
for
six
months
and
taking
an
80
hour
brush
up
course
in
study,
and
if
they
fail
another
two
more
attempt
they
will
be
banned
for
for
three
years
out
before
they
taking
an
exam.
F
The
exam
is
PSI
system,
a
digital
platform
and
only
offer
in
English
interview
who
are
part
of
our
community
has
been
denied
into
our
field.
Due
to
the
strict
limit
of
examination,
this
favoring,
those
who
do
not
speak
English
as
their
first
language,
so
this
is
not
because
of
the
lack
of
skill,
but
simply
due
to
the
fact
that
they
do
not
read
English
as
quickly
as
person
who
was
born
in
the
state.
F
This
caused
a
great
financial
burden
not
only
to
interview,
but
also
to
the
state
living
near
technician
jobless
and
relying
on
government
assistance,
so
by
birming
them
for
a
long
period
of
time,
we
can
lose
to
lose
hope,
unemployment
and
really
necessary
to
relocate
to
another
state.
We
can
offer
them
the
chance
to
try
and
contribute
to
the
local
economy
of
Kentucky.
F
Last
but
not
least,
I
would
like
to
address
the
certain
salon
closer
without
prior
warning.
Many
Salon
has
been
faced,
immediate
closes
and
excessive
funds
without
an
opportunity
to
justify
the
issues
so
by
fostering
Cooperative
Cooperative
environment
that
allow
salon
owners
to
recollect
the
violation
we
can
create
more
supportive
and
unnational
to
help
in
high
standard.
In
conclusion,
we
say
we
urge
you
to
consider
our
request
with
six
nail
technician
to
be
represented
on
the
board
member
inside
exam
and
multiple
language.
F
Unlimited
tax,
retake
and
write
a
warning
notice
before
alternative
action
against
the
lawn
Asian
immigrants
are
known
for
their
strong
work
ethic.
We
work
long
hour.
We
dedicate
ourselves
to
our
craft,
we
pay
tax
on
our
earning
and
we
firmly
believe
in
American
dream,
so
our
diversity
should
not
be
seen
as
burdened
or
buried
by
the
board.
Our
burden
should
be
an
asset
to
the
Commonwealth
of
Kentucky,
allowing
more
creativity
needed
for
cosmetology.
F
A
G
Good
morning
my
name
is
Kim,
one
I
am
a
salon
owner
in
Lex
and
in
Nicholasville.
My
family
has
been
involved
in
the
nail
industry
for
about
20
years
now,
so
I've
had
a
front
row
seat
and
kind
of
seeing
how
the
industry
has
changed
and
grown.
But
obviously
this
industry
has
started
long
before
us.
So
just
a
mini
history
lesson
for
everybody.
In
1975,
after
the
Vietnam
War,
an
actress
and
activist
named
Tippy
hedron,
you
guys
may
know
Alfred
Hitchcock.
G
She
went
to
visited
a
Vietnamese
refugee
camp
with
women
and
she
was
trying
to
help
them
find
a
new
vocation
in
the
U.S
and
they
all
loved
her
nails.
So
she
brought
up
a
manicurist
taught
all
these
women
how
to
do
nails
and
boom
we're
gonna
fast
forward,
almost
50
years.
The
nails
Market
has
now
grown
to
over
10
billion
dollars
and
more
than
half
more
than
half
of
all
salon
owners
are
of
the
Asian
descent
and
from
the
AI
community.
G
So
since
we
make
up
the
majority
of
this
industry,
all
we're
asking
for
today,
one
of
the
biggest
points
is
that
the
exams
be
offered
in
our
language.
The
current
exam
now
test
us
on
sanitation
standards,
steps
and
procedures
in
our
work,
identifying
diseases
and
preventing
injuries
at
the
rate
that
the
exams
are
given
right
now
to
non-english
speakers
and
individuals
purely
being
tested
on
their
memory
of
the
English
words
and
not
on
their
understanding
of
the
material.
G
A
Yeah
Molita
did
state
that
so
it's
not
necessary
to
State
it
again.
Do
you
have
anything
else
from
your
testimony
because
we're
running
out
of
time
and
there's
some
other
people
at
the
table.
C
Good
morning,
my
name
is
Michael
Carter
we're
here
today
to
try
to
get
fair
and
inclusive
treatment
for
all
of
the
nail
industry,
which
primarily
is
made
up
of
Cambodian
and
Vietnamese
immigrants,
whether
they
be
citizens
or
permanent
residents.
We
have
so
many
roadblocks
that
are
state
board
implements
upon
these
people
and
the
attitude
and
the
understanding.
C
We
even
have
government
officials
that
state
the
fact
that
the
test
should
only
be
in
English,
because
tips
are
based
on
communication,
I
speak
multiple
languages,
I,
don't
read
and
write
those,
so
it
doesn't
mean
that
our
Asian
Community
does
not
speak
and
communicate
well
with
all
of
their
clients.
In
the
salon.
The
we
need
a
seat
on
the
board
as
the
nail
tech
industry
from
the
Asian
Community.
We
need
a
seat
to
be
able
to
help
the
board,
understand
the
needs
and
the
the
the
difficulties
of
the
nail
technician.
Salons.
C
We
don't
have
a
voice
at
this
time.
We
only
have
cosmetology
individuals
on
the
board
and
we
we
don't
have
a
voice,
the
Asian
Community,
Cambodian
and
Vietnamese
Thailand.
They
need
a
voice
from
you
guys.
They
need
to
allow
these
people
to
have
an
opportunity
to
succeed
in
their
business
and
and
be
part
of
our
community
as
wonderful
individuals.
They
are
hard-working.
We
do
not
have
inspectors
that
are
educated
in
the
nail
salon
business.
We
have
edu.
C
We
have
inspectors
on
the
state
board
that
come
and
Bully
these
individuals
and
threaten
them
and
hold
them
hostage
until
they
pay
a
fine.
When
we
go
to
a
restaurant
and
we
see
a
score
of
81,
we
decide
if
we
want
to
go
or
not.
The
nail
salon
is
closed
and
we
have
to
suffer
the
consequences
of
that.
All
of
these
individuals
lose
their
employees,
they
lose
their
clientele
because
of
their
reputation.
A
Welcome-
and
we
are
out
of
time,
but
I
am
going
to
give
the
panel
some
leeway
so
please
introduce
and
I'm
sure
we're
going
to
have
a
few
questions.
This
is
very
moving
and
interesting
and
critical.
Testimony.
Please
introduce
yourself
for
the
record
and
proceed
with
your
testimony
before
we
get
to
the
questions.
Hi.
H
My
name
is
Leanna
Winn
I
am
a
licensed
educator
and
a
nail
salon
owner
and
also
a
nail
school
owner.
Our
nail
Community
is
asking
for
a
better
inspection
procedure,
transparent
protocols
and
for
a
nail
salon,
shutdown
to
be
the
last
resort.
After
some
mediation
attempts
lately,
there
has
been
more
shutdowns
of
nail
salons
in
the
state
of
Kentucky
than
ever
before.
We
have
people
behind
us
sitting
here
today
that
their
business
was
destroyed
from
the
shutdown
and
no
longer
are
operating
or
working.
H
These
shutdowns
has
been
a
loss
of
lucrative
tax
dollars
for
the
state
of
Kentucky
and
caused
a
big
negative
impact
in
the
lives
of
the
salon,
owners
and
employees.
Every
time
a
salon
gets
shut
down,
they
are
fined
thousands
and
thousands
of
dollars
and
are
often
left
dark
in
the
dark
for
months
they
can't
call
or
come
to
the
board
office
to
discuss
the
matter
most
of
the
time.
They
are
only
left
with
the
option
to
just
pay
the
fine.
We
believe
violations
need
to
be
itemized
with
Fair
fine
prices.
H
Salon
should
have
opportunity
to
rectify
non-severe
violations.
The
board
should
have
Paper
Trails
of
due
processes.
Attempts
before
shut
down
this
issue
and
should
be
pending
for
a
week
for
review
and
sign
off
by
another
inspector.
Our
no
Community
are
hard-working
people
who
just
want
to
make
an
honest
living
and
support
their
families.
We
are
asking
the
council
to
bridge
the
gap
in
communication,
transparency
and
better
understanding
of
the
nail
Community.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
I
have,
since
we've
been
talking
about
this
subject
over
the
summer
I've
gone
around
and
visited
some
of
these
facilities.
In
my
district
and
I
tell
you
one
thing:
the
demand
of
the
customers
is
there
Boone
Canyon's
lineup
to
come
to
these
facilities
to
to
get
your
services
so
you're?
You
are
right.
It's
been
my
observation
that
you
are
hard-working
people
and
that
the
citizens,
at
least
of
my
community,
utilize,
your
services.
We
do
have
a
couple
questions
representative
tuning.
E
Thank
you
chairman.
Thank
you
all
for
presenting
this
bill
today,
Mr
chairman
I'm,
going
to
tell
a
very
brief
story.
It's
going
to
be
really
really
short.
E
When
I
was
five
years
old,
we
had
Cambodian
refugees
come
and
stay
with
us,
and
so,
if
you
think
well,
five
years
old
I
know
I'm
incredibly
young
looking,
but
that
was
back
in
1980.,
so
you
know
giving
the
historical
analysis
there
I
think
I,
remember,
being
five
and
being
confused,
they
didn't
communicate
with.
They
didn't
speak,
English
and
I
really
didn't
know.
What
was
going
on.
E
E
That's
why
many
people
from
all
over
the
world
moved
to
the
United
States
versus
American
dream
in
a
time
in
Kentucky,
where
we're
begging
people
to
go
to
work,
Workforce
participation,
rate
of
50
and
we've
got
paperwork
getting
in
the
way
of
people
working
I
think
this
is
one
of
those
cases
where
we
have
over
regulated
something,
and
we
need
to
take
a
look
at
finding
a
way
where
we
can
get
people
to
work
that
want
to
work
and
encourage
them
and
make
sure
that
red
tape's
not
in
the
way.
Thank
you.
A
From
hence
on
Norm,
I
understand
the
emotion
and
the
happiness,
but
we
don't
normally
have
Applause
in
a
committee
meeting,
so
I'm
going
to
ask
the
audience
to
refresh
refrain
from
Applause
and
I
haven't
seen
any
signs,
but
we
don't
allow
those
either
Senator
Thayer.
I
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman.
This
has
been
interesting.
Testimony
and
I
appreciate
Senator
Thomas,
bringing
the
issue
before
the
committee,
as
well
as
the
dozens
of
people
gathered
here
today,
to
show
support
for
it,
I'm
a
big
supporter
of
people
who
pursue
a
legal
path
to
citizenship
and
come
to
America
to
pursue
the
American
dream,
and
you
are
examples
of
that
here
today.
My
neighbors
in
Georgetown
run
a
nail
salon
that
well
Brad
how.
E
I
I
Since
2004
and
I've
dedicated
my
service
on
this
committee
to
removing
artificial
barriers
to
free
enterprise,
and
unfortunately,
this
Administration-
and
this
is
something
you
should
know-
you're,
not
the
only
ones
they're
picking
on
they're
they're,
very
anti-job,
they're
anti-free,
Market
they're,
very
anti-free,
Enterprise
I've,
seen
it
across
multiple
agencies
affecting
multiple
Industries,
so
I
look
forward
to
taking
a
deeper
dive
in
the
bill
and
working
with
Senator
Thomas
and
chairman
schickel
in
2024
to
see
if
the
barriers
being
placed
by
the
administration
can
be
fixed
by
the
legislature.
So
I.
I
Thank
you
for
all
your
presence
here
today
and
look
forward
to
moving
forward
on
this
bill.
A
J
C
It's
a
separate
license.
Your
cosmetology
license
hundred
hours
of
education
and
then
their
own
exam.
The
nail
technology
is
450
hours
of
schooling
and
their
own
exam,
which
consists
of
two
one
is
a
practical
and
one
is
a
theory
one.
They
have
to
do
Hands-On
the
other
one
they
have
to
do
it
written
and
because
of
we,
only
allowed
that
in
in
English
as
a
second
language,
most
of
the
Cambodian
and
Vietnamese
people
can't
pass
that.
However,
we
allow
a
16
year
old
immigrant
to
take
a
driver's
exam
in
up
to
18
languages,
including
Vietnamese.
J
A
K
Thank
you
Mr
chairman,
and
this
is
I'll,
be
brief
and
I
read
the
bill,
and
this
is
more
of
a
global
statement
and
not
particular
to
this
issue,
but
last
session,
I
brought
up
the
issue
of
the
pharmacy
board,
because
I
think
it's
time
that
we
start
to
look
at
these
boards
and
update
our
membership
based
upon
a
different
Kentucky
economy
and
I.
K
Think
that
I
would
encourage
this
committee
to
also
look
at
it's
really
a
good
thing
for
us
to
look
at
these
boards
and
to
update
them
based
upon
a
new
Kentucky
economy
and
I.
Think
that
we
should
look
at
multiple
boards.
Yours
in
particular
this
seems
very
reasonable.
So
I
just
encourage
this
committee
to
always
always
look
for
new
and
innovative
ways
to
increase
competitiveness
in
our
state,
because
our
economy
has
changed.
L
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
being
here.
I
know
I'm
from
South
Louisville
and
a
lot
of
you
all
work
there
and
do
a
great
job,
and
this
is
truly
the
American
dream
that
sometimes
we
forget
about
and
I
was
here
when
the
Board
of
Cosmetology
was
put
in
place
and
I
think
Senator
Adams
is
right.
We
need
to
update
boards
because
I
think
when
that
was
put
in
place
and
underlying
I,
think
the
intent
was
protectionism
for
their
own
people.
L
That
was
already
doing
it,
instead
of
including
who
was
from
other
areas,
are
wanting
to
become
cosmetologists
or
nail
people.
So
I
think
this
is
a
great
thing
and
I.
Thank
you
all
for
adapting
to
what
you've
had
to
adapt
to
and
and
for
being
a
great
asset
to
Kentucky.
So
I
look
forward
to
to
backing
this
bill
and
have
you
all
looked
into
the
interpreters
that
you
need
for
when
you're
doing,
testing.
H
M
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman.
Some
brief
commentary
I'm
pleased
to
see
this
on
the
agenda
today.
This
is
an
issue
that
I've
encountered
as
a
lawyer
and
a
lawmaker
I've
had
several
people
contact
me
with
the
issues
that
you
all
are
facing.
So
I
am
pleased
to
see
this
on
the
agenda.
I
think
it's
something
that
is
very
worthy
of
our
time
and
discussion,
and
hopefully
we
can
find
a
resolution,
I
guess.
Lastly,
I
would
say
from
my
observations
on
all
this.
M
It
just
seems
to
me
to
be
to
be
a
very
handy,
heavy
hand
of
government
that's
being
put
on
people
that
are
just
trying
to
to
work
that
that
are
competent
to
work
that
are
operating
safely
and,
and
hopefully
we
can
maybe
loosen
up
some
of
these
issues
and
and
not
compromise
safety
to
the
consumers.
Thank
you.
A
Very
well
and
Senator
Thomas
again,
thank
you
for
presenting
this
today.
Thank
you
for
giving
me
the
bill
a
month
to
go
to
look
at
and
all
our
discussion
we've
had
I
want
the
people
at
the
table
and
the
people
in
the
audience
to
know
they're
well
represented,
and-
and
we
appreciate
you
being
here
today
and
Mr
Ambassador,
what
an
honor
it
is
to
have
you
here,
I
think
it's
a
Well
I
know
it's
the
first
time
I've
ever
had
the
honor
of
introducing
an
ambassador
in
committee
meeting.
A
Okay,
Brian
Miller
are
you
here.
A
's
Brian
Miller
here
come
on
up
Brian.
We
are
going
to
the
last
item
on
the
agenda
item
number
five:
dual
credits
for
building
trade
students:
this
is
another
area
which
I'm
very
familiar
with
Mr.
Miller
has
been
talking
to
me
about
this.
For
months,
we've
had
a
a
bill
drafted
I,
don't
know.
If
it's
is
it
is
it
bill
in
the
packets,
yeah,
okay,
we've
had
a
bill
drafted
and
I'm
very
excited
about
this
piece
of
legislation.
Introduce
yourself
for
the
record
and
I
proceed
with
your
testimony.
N
I'm
glad
we
know
how
to
clear
a
AR
room.
Thank
you
Mr,
chairman
and
Mr
co-chairman,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
on
the
committee,
my
name
is
Brian
Miller
I'm,
the
Executive
Vice
President
of
the
building
industry,
Association
of
Northern
Kentucky
I'm.
Also,
the
president
of
the
endswallard
building
Institute
and
the
president
of
the
Covington
Academy
of
Heritage
trades
I
have
with
me
today
the
association's
director
of
professional
development,
Dr
Vicki
Burling,
who
administers
our
Proprietary
School,
both
of
them
both
the
nsw
building
Institute
and
the
Covington
Academy
of
Heritage
trades.
N
The
building
Institute
has
been
in
operation
since
1967..
It's
the
longest
and
continually
operating
trade
school
for
construction.
Skilled
construction,
education
under
the
auspices
is
the
National
Association
of
home
builders
and
we're
lucky
to
call
it
home.
For
us,
we
have
campuses.
Our
main
campus
is
on
circleport
Drive
in
Erlanger
in
Boone
County
and
our
newest
location
is
in
Covington
at
3923,
Winston
Avenue.
N
The
reason
that
we're
here
today
is
that,
as
we
go
through
this
inflationary
period,
the
biggest
inflation
pressures
is
the
cost
of
construction.
It's
not
easy.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
in
our
area,
the
Greater
Cincinnati
Market
may
have
seen
recent
articles
is
that
we
are
the
highest
rate
of
inflation
in
the
entire
nation
for
specifically
housing
and
one
of
the
biggest
drivers
of
that
is
our
Workforce
costs
and
the
availability
of
skilled
trades
people.
That's
just
the
simple
economics
of
it.
N
We
thank
the
legislature
for
taking
good
action
in
the
prior
sessions
to
create
dual
credit
programs
in
traditional
public
education,
but
we
would
like
to
see
an
equal
footing
for
the
construction
industry,
one
of
the
five
main
sectors
of
need
in
our
state.
We
believe
that
that
dual
credit
that
you
can
have
in
organizations
with
kctcs
for
Industries,
such
as
nursing
and
others,
is
a
great
policy,
and
it's
a
great
policy
that
we
can
see
extrapolated
over
the
construction
trades
when
it
comes
to
licensure
attainment.
N
We
would
like
to
see
this
happen
in
the
form
of
articulation
agreements.
We
believe
that
us,
as
a
proprietary
Education
Foundation,
are
best
suited
to
determine
what
level
of
attainment
that
individuals
that
are
either
engaged
as
a
senior
or
a
junior
in
area.
Technology
Centers
are
operated
by
the
state
or
other
vocational
education
opportunities.
They're
administered
on
the
county,
school
level
or
even
the
independent
Public
School
level
would
be
able
to
gain
dual
credit
for
construction,
licensure,
specifically
Plumbing,
Heating
and
ventilation,
air
conditioning
and
Electric
and
I
think.
N
The
reason
why
this
may
have
not
already
happened
is
just
because
simply
it's
just
a
different
department
of
government.
It's
not
the
Department
of
Education,
it's
the
Department
of
Housing
Buildings
Construction,
the
department
of
great
partners
with
us
and
great
friends.
We
just
think
that
it
is
due
time
to
move
this
concept
from
one
Department
of
government
over
to
another.
N
We
think
that
these
construction
wages
put
our
employees
on
equal
footing
with
many
other
Industries,
and
it's
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
begin
this
dual
credit
concept.
Now
again,
we
are
an
approved
education
provider
for
licensure
with
the
department,
and
we
are
a
licensed
Proprietary
School
and
we're
simply
receiving
equal
footing
and
that
I
will
I
will
turn
it
over
to
Dr
Burling,
who
can
help
round
out
some
specifics
and
afterwards
we'll
be
happy
to
entertain
any
questions
or
comments
as
needed
by
the
committee.
O
You,
sir,
with
this
opportunity
to
talk
to
you
about
this
issue.
I
think
Brian
did
a
great
job
of
explaining.
What
we're
looking
for
I
would
just
add
that
each
of
the
programs,
we
would
develop
an
articulation
that
would
spell
out
exactly
what
the
student
would
have
to
achieve
in
order
to
gain
some
credit
for
prior
learning
in
our
post-secondary
programs.
So
the
the
agreements
would
be
specific
to
the
institutions
and
the
programs
that
the
students
would
be
graduating
from.
A
Thank
you
for
that
concise
testimony,
and
this
is
something
I'm
really
excited
about.
I
would
urge
you
to
get
a
bill
sponsor
talk
to
House
and
Senate
leadership
about
it,
because
this
is
I
think
an
exciting
piece
of
legislation
which
is
going
to
be
very
popular
with,
but
in
both
Chambers
are
there
any
questions?
A
A
And
the
last
thing
on
the
agenda
is
item
number
three
Obstetricians,
a
representative
Wade
Williams.
There
you
are
representative
welcome
and
my
friend
Bob
Babbage
Rob
and
James
Morris
from
the
yeah
Opticians
associate
Opticians
Association
of
Kentucky
welcome.
Gentlemen:
introduce
yourselves
for
the
record.
I
had
a
nice
chat
with
you
before
the
meeting
about
what
you're
here
for
introduce
yourselves
to
the
record
and
proceed
with
your
testimony.
Thank.
P
R
P
Mr
chairman
today,
I'd
just
like
to
discuss
a
bill
that
was
went
to
the
house
last
year.
We
we
did
go
through
our
you
know,
went
to
the
house
floor,
I
I,
think
it
passed
unanimously
if
I
remember
correctly,
but
what
this
bill.
Basically,
this
bill
addresses
that
sometimes
we
as
legislators
address
issues
and
fail
to
see
the
long-term
implications
of
some
of
those
safeguards
that
we
put
in
place.
P
Some
of
those
that
are
you
know,
fail
to
meet
the
modernization
of
times
and
especially
as
it
as
it
pertains
to
licensures
we've
been
kind
of
discussing
today,
but
I
want
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
last
year's
House,
Bill,
513
and
I'll
be
supporting
a
bill.
I'll
be
sponsoring
a
bill
this
year.
P
P
This
bill
will
allow
the
representative
board
to
adjust
their
fees
accordingly
on
how
they
see
fit.
I
could
go
into
a
long
line
of
different
accolades,
but
the
NCL
establishes
and
maintains
a
minimum
proficiency
examinations
and
continuing
education
requirements
in
order
to
access
competency
for
Opticians
throughout
the
country.
In
general,
the
general
assembly
has
established
appropriate
minimum
standards
and
licensing
for
for
this.
This
body,
and
without
this
passage,
there's
a
lot
of
implications.
It
has
in
place
at
the
75
dollar
fee.
P
Just
doesn't
meet
they're
kind
of
like
the
the
dispensaries
dispensers
are
like
Pharmacists
and
nurses
of
the
Vision
Care
and
medical
field.
They
take
a
prescription
from
my
ophthalmologist,
an
optometrist
and
they
dispense
specialty
eyewear
in
accordance
with
their
prescriptions
and
they're
all
often
considered
the
First
Responders
to
to
the
eye
care
patient.
P
A
You
representative,
first
of
all,
I
thank
you
for
your
patience
and
for
being
so
understanding
and
I
understand
that
the
75
dollar
fee
isn't,
is
that
in
statute
it
is
yeah
which
is
not
probably
not
a
good
thing.
R
Do
briefly,
if
I
may
again,
Jim
Morris
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
first
I'm
an
attorney
in
Lexington.
R
Know
and
I
walked
away
from
my
law
practice
to
do
this
nationally,
not
just
locally,
and
the
reason
is
because
the
gentleman
sitting
next
to
me
who
took
care
of
my
son,
my
son,
was
born
with
a
major
birth
defect
in
his
eye.
If
my
son
had
been
born
in
any
other
state
that
does
not
have
license
or
does
not
have
adequate
license.
R
The
doctors
hoped
that
he
could
see
something
in
front
of
his
eye
anything.
He
holds
the
world's
record
of
the
best
vision
of
any
child.
With
this
birth
defect,
2050
uncorrected,
I
credit,
the
man
sitting
next
to
me
for
a
lot
of
that.
The
critical
importance
of
Opticians
to
the
Eye
Care
industry
must
be
protected
and
seventy
five
dollars
per
license
is
not
going
to
do
it.
You
have
absolutely
not
one
optician
opposing
this
bill,
not
one
optometrist,
not
one
ophthalmologist,
not
one
consumer.
R
We've
tried
to
get
this
through
we're
trying
to
go
through
the
proper
channels.
This
is
critical
to
the
health,
safety
and
Welfare
of
my
son
and
all
other
children.
Like
my
son
he's
now
28
years
old,
he
runs
a
business,
does
a
great
job
all
because
of
the
care
of
the
Opticians.
So
thank
you
for
listening.
Q
Q
A
Did
refresh
my
refresh
my
memory
if
you
said
past
the
house
unanimously
and
it
just
didn't
rent,
did
it
run
out
of
time
we.
A
Any
fir:
oh
Senator,
Thayer,
okay,
okay,
anyone
else!
Well!
Thank
you
all
for
being
here.
It
sounds
to
me
very
reasonable
and
I
think
we'll
be
able
to
obviously
unless
I'm
something
I'm
not
aware.
I
will
definitely
be
taking
it
up
during
the
session,
and
thank
you
for
being
here
and
thank
you
for
the
testimony
about
your
son.
Thank.