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A
Charge
I
didn't
say:
I
know
what
I
I
didn't
say:
I
knew
what
I
was
doing.
I
just
said:
I
like
being
in
charge
and
from
some
of
the
people
I've
met
in
the
room.
All
these
Colonels
and
generals
I've
always
wanted
to
do
that
too.
You
know
I'm
kidding
today,
I'm
going
to
read
a
lunch
and
learn
the
reduced
radon
related
lung
cancer
in
Kentucky
today
from
11:30
to
1:30
p.m.
an
Annex
room.
A
113,
however,
which
way
that
is
all
legislators
are
invited
to
join
the
the
American
long
Association
breath
of
Hope
of
Kentucky
and
Kentucky
Association
of
raidon
Professionals
for
conversation
and
lunch.
A
Chick-Fil-A
conversation
probably
won't
be
so
good,
but
the
lunch
I
promise
you
will
be
good
and
they
going
to
be
a
two
brief
10-minute
presentations
at
11:45
and
at
12:30
I'm.
Assuming
that's
going
to
be
a
video
but.
C
A
That's
today,
if,
if
we
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
fussing,
going
on
12:45
we'll
be
able
to
go,
eat
ourselves
so
or
12:30,
but
that's
today
at
11:00,
11:30.
A
E
F
G
H
E
E
E
A
A
I
J
B
K
A
A
Cater
if
we
all
will
please
stand
we'll,
have
the
pledge
allegiance
by
our
shortest
member
up
here,
Center
the
name.
Please
join
me
in
the
to
the
flag
of
the
United
States
of
America.
B
Well,
Lord.
Thank
you
for
this
beautiful
fall
day.
Thank
you
for
the
Gathering
of
your
elected
representatives
in
the
capital
today.
May
you
give
us
strength
and
wisdom
as
we
do
the
things
Lord
to
try
to
benefit
the
people
of
our
state
in
Jesus
name,
we
pray,
amen.
A
Amen
I'd
like
to
entertain
a
motion
that
we
accept
the
minutes
as
approved,
got
a
motion
by
Senator
Denine
second,
by
Senator
Wilson
any
opposed,
if
not
passes,
y
all
right,
I'm
going
to
turn
the
over
for
a
little
while
to
Center
Den
we're
going
to
I'd
like
you
go
on
down
there
because
and
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
him
down
there
and
let
him
take
it
over
from
here
for
a
little.
A
M
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
committee
members,
I'm
state
senator
Matt
Denine
from
the
10th
district
and
I
am
honored
today
to
recognize
someone
I
believe
has
served.
Our
Commonwealth
with
distinction,
has
had
a
outstanding
military
career
and
has
continued
to
serve
our
veterans
throughout
the
Commonwealth
and
I
believe
his
bio,
as
I
will
read
on
this
certificate
here
from
the
general
assembly
recognizing
today,
Colonel
Larry
Arnett.
M
He
is
recognized
and
honored
for
his
years
of
exemplary
Service
as
an
honorable
veteran
of
the
United
States
Army
and
a
public
servant
of
the
highest
caliber,
a
graduate
of
Eastern
Kentucky
University,
who
also
earned
a
master's
degree
from
Kentucky
State
University
Colonel
Arnett,
began
his
military
career
in
1969.
As
an
infantry
officer.
He
would
serve
an
active
duty
until
1973,
f,
fing
assignments
as
platoon
leader
company
commander
and
helicopter
pilot
with
the
23rd
Infantry
Division
in
Vietnam
in
1970
and
as
an
aircraft
Commander
flight
leader
and
air
Mission
commander
in
1973.
M
He
joined
the
Kentucky
Army
National
Guard,
where
he
would
become
one
of
the
youngest
officers
to
command
of
the
Battalion
and
Brigade
levels.
During
the
1991
Persian
Gulf
War,
more
than
500
troops
assigned
to
his
command
were
success,
successfully
mobilized
and
performed.
Exceptionally
in
support
of
this
country's
involvement
in
Iraq,
a
highly
decorated
soldier,
Colonel
Arnett
was
selected
in
1997
as
the
outstanding
alumnist
for
the
Department
of
military
science
at
Eastern,
Kentucky
University
and
in
2014
was
inducted
into
the
inaugural
class
of
the
Kentucky
veterans
hall
of
fame.
M
He
is
also
a
pillar
of
his
community,
who
has
been
actively
involved
in
a
marit
of
Civic
and
Veteran
organizations
in
as
much
as
Colonel
Larry
Arnett
has
consistently
served
in
the
interest
of
his
fellow
man,
both
as
a
soldier
and
civilian,
and
has
continually
utilized
his
time
and
expertise
and
service
to
his
fellow
veterans
and
to
this
Commonwealth
as
a
whole.
He
has
offered
sincere
Commendation
and
gratitude
for
his
years
of
meritorious
service
to
his
country
to
the
Commonwealth.
M
Most
worthy
of
today's
recognition,
I'm
proud
to
not
only
read
his
bio
but
I'm
also
very
proud
to
offer
him
a
coin
from
the
veterans
and
Military
Affairs
committee,
and-
and
there
are
some
things
that
were
not
mentioned
in
the
citation
that
I
guess.
You
can
say
that
Colonel
Arnett
is
the
Godfather.
If
you
will
of
our
veteran
Sinners
that
we
have
in
the
Commonwealth,
he
pushed
very
hard
to
get
that
started,
and
today
we
have
four
of
those
across
the
Commonwealth.
So
without
further
Ado
Colonel.
N
N
Committee
members,
I
Senator
Den,
did
just
an
outstanding
job.
I
I've
got
to
give
him
Kudos
here
for
for
reading
that
Litany
of
of
of
information
and
but
I.
Thank
you
so
much
for
for
doing
that.
U
you've
honored
me
this
morning
with
this
recognition
and
I
am
humbled
by
that
I
have
to
share
with
you
that
I
started
working
with
this
committee
in
1988,
when
I
was
appointed
as
the
state
Director
of
Veterans
Affairs.
N
At
that
time
your
predecessors
gave
me
two
tasks:
two
very
tough
challenges.
The
first
one
was
to
construct
equip
and
staff
a
300
bed
nursing
home
for
elderly
veterans.
Here
in
the
state
of
Kentucky,
the
first
one
we
did
that
we
completed
that
task
on
time
and
under
budget
and
the
Thompson
Hood
Veteran
Center
was
open
in
1991.
You
also
asked
me,
no,
you
didn't
ask
me:
you
task
me
with
paying
a
bonus
to
the
Vietnam
veterans
America's
longest
war.
N
At
the
time
we
pulled
together
a
small
group,
a
small
Staffing
and
we
processed
over
105
applications
and
paid
the
Warriors
of
that
war
of
the
recognition
that
you
felt
was
deserved,
and
we
did
that.
I
have
proudly
worn
the
uniform
of
military
service
for
30
years,
one
of
the
most
exciting
tasks
that
I
have
had
since
then
was
working
with
you
to
make
sure
that
we
were
able
to
provide
the
benefits
and
the
programs
for
those
others
that
wore
that
uniform,
as
well
as
their
families.
N
N
N
You
I
am
the
very
proud
son
of
a
World
War
II
veteran,
my
father
Melvin
Arnett
served
as
a
infantry
Sergeant
with
the
38th
Infantry
Division
and
fought
the
Japanese
through
the
Philippines
in
New
Guinea.
He
came
home,
raised
a
family
I
remember
as
a
young
child,
watching
him
get
dressed
to
go
to
his
military
drill
because
he
had
joined
the
100th
division,
Army
Reserve
after
he
came
home
and
he
eventually
retired
as
a
first
sergeant.
N
N
A
three-legged
stool
is
made
up
of
the
administration
nowadays,
working
with
the
Department
of
Veterans
Affairs,
the
general
assembly
as
a
second
leg
and
the
veteran
organizations
as
a
third
leg,
when
all
three
of
us
are
in
sync
and
focus
on
the
same
goals,
we
achieve
Mighty
things,
and
you
have
done
that
and
you
will
continue
to
do
that
when
all
three
of
those
are
in
sync
Mr.
Chairman
committee
members,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity.
I
look
forward
to
continuing
my
Association
as
I
shared
with
chairman
Thomas.
A
little
earlier.
N
A
A
A
All
right
we're
going
to
invite
oh
we're
going
to
invite
some
Somerset
boys
and
I
know
one
of
them
real.
Well,
he
taught
me
how
to.
N
A
And
then
he
told
me
I
better
put
it
on
the
ground
and
stay
there,
so
I
have
and
the
other
one
is.
They
told
me
today
they
was
going
to
fly
up
here,
but
they
didn't
and
they
got
a
helicopter
I
thought
you
could
fly
a
helicopter
10
ft
off
the
ground
all
the
way
up
here,
but
I
don't
get
you
can.
Anyway.
Gentlemen,
if
you
all
will
come
forward,
introduce
yourself
and
let
us
know
what
you're
thinking
and
give
us
some
insight
into
school
resource
officers.
I.
A
P
All
right
good
morning,
chairman
girdler
committee
and
distinguished
guests,.
P
My
name
is
Kyle
cumins,
as
Mr
gerler
mentioned
I'm
from
Somerset.
My
relevance
here
in
the
discussion,
just
as
quick
as
we
can
would
be
that
I
served
12
years
in
the
Kentucky
Army
National
Guard,
where
I
voluntarily
separated
at
the
rank
of
chief
warant
officer
3,
had
the
the
opportunity
to
work
hand
inand
for
six
years
in
the
joint
support
operations
with
counterdrug
Detachment
for
the
state
and
worked
hand
inand
with
law
enforcement
of
local
state
and
federal
capacity.
Q
Q
We
are
here
today
to
talk
about
the
school
resource
officer.
We
would
like
to
give
you
some.
A
H
Go
ahead
morning,
ger
one
and
all
I'm
Phil
Miller
I'm,
a
retired
Colonel
I'
served
both
on
active
duty
with
the
Army
Reserve
and
also
with
the
National
Guard
for
almost
41
years.
H
My
last
assignment
I
was
chief
of
staff
and
chief
administrative
officer
of
the
Kentucky
National
Guard
retired
in
2010,
and
for
the
last
13
years,
I've
served
with
Department
of
Defense
Agency
known
as
Employer
support
of
the
garden
Reserve
we're
a
volunteer-based
agency
and
for
the
last
six
years,
I've
been
the
state
chairman
have
three
more
days
on
that
tour.
Great
to
be.
P
Here
the
the
reason
for
our
visit
this
morning-
and
we
appreciate
the
opportunity,
is,
after
the
most
recent
school
shooting
that
was
in
the
headlines.
A
question
came
to
me
again
from
one
of
our
school
officials.
That
was
something
we've
talked
about
over
the
last
four
to
five
years,
and
the
specific
question
was
whether
or
not
I
felt
that
veterans,
National,
Guard
members
and
even
federal
law
enforcement
would
be
good
candidates
to
serve
in
school
resource
officer
positions.
P
And
the
question
is
undoubtedly
yes,
but
the
reason
for
the
question
this
time
was
of
more
urgency.
U
with
our
school
official.
A
lot
of
work
has
been
done
in
these
Chambers
over
the
last
several
years
and
have
made
great
efforts.
You
all
have
done
some
amazing
things
to
provide
funds
to
mandate,
school
resource
officers,
to
increase
training
and
abilities,
and
one
of
the
issues
that
that
we,
the
people
are
struggling
with,
is
providing
you
people
to
fill
those
positions
with.
So
the
question
was
U.
P
We
had
several
vacancies
in
palaski
County
at
the
time
for
school
resource
officers,
and
his
concern
was
that
we
do
not
have
a
big
enough
pool
of
people
to
pull
qualified
candidates
from
currently
it.
It
is
directed
mostly
towards
retired
peace
officers
or
current
peace
officers,
and
that
pool
of
people
is
is
very
small.
Considering
the
number
of
schools
and
positions
that
need
to
be
filled.
P
We
feel
that
current
National
Guard
members,
as
well
as
retired
military,
would
open
up
an
enormous
scope
of
qualified
applicants
to
Philly's
positions
if
we're
able
to
to
fet
them
appropriately
and
get
them
into
the
training
process,
and
in
doing
so,
these
people
come
pre-equipped
with
an
enormous
amount
of
training,
enormous
amount
of
experience
in
public
safety.
As
as
you
all
well
know,
on
this
committee,
it
is
something
that
we
feel
like
would
would
greatly
increase
the
ability
to
have
applicants
in
these
positions.
P
A
lot
of
thoughts
gone
into
that
over
the
last
few
months,
a
lot
of
discussion
with
the
individuals
to
my
right
and
many
others,
but
just
looking
to
potentially
open
up
an
Avenue
for
veterans,
current
National,
Guard
members
and
reserves
to
be
able
to
get
engaged
in
these
positions.
From
a
standpoint
that
that
we
would
all
say
that
we've
enlisted
or
joined
in
these
agencies
the
military
to
serve
our
communities.
Specifically
the
Kentucky
Army
National.
Q
Guard
we
talked
about
training.
Now
there
is
several
different
Avenues,
there's
sro1,
two
and
three
that
we
could
look
at
possibly
working
with
doj
TC
and
see
about
if
they
can
possibly
use
some
help
and
see
if
the
National
Guard
could
actually
help
out
with
some
of
the
instructors
to
to
push
some
of
these
people
through
at
a
faster
rate
than
they
are
right
now
and
I,
don't
know
how
fast
they
are
actually
having
to.
R
Q
Through
there,
but
I
do
know
that
the
law
enforcement
officer
basic
courses-
sometimes
it's
kind
of
lengthy-
to
get
somebody
in
there,
but
Sr
SRO
are
needed
right
away.
We
don't
have
enough
pool
to
P
to
choose
from
to
actually
get
everybody
one
per
school
and
as
as
I'm
sure
you
all
agree,
you
know
our
children
are
most
concern.
Q
Safety
concern
along
with
the
teachers
that's
in
the
school,
so
a
thought
that
we
had
was
you
know
by
using
the
National
Guard
Reserve
members
that
we
could
actually
use
any
law
enforcement
officer,
that's
in
the
National,
Guard
or
Reserve,
to
help
the
dojc
to
develop
the
not
develop
the
course,
but
actually
run
the
course
and
also
if
they
don't
have
room
right
now
to
to
perform
all
these
rooms.
Q
Maybe
we
could
talk
to
the
National
Guard
into
using
some
of
their
facilities,
such
as
window
H4,
Training
Center
or
the
Disney's
Training
Center
down
there.
If
it's
a
matter
of
room
now,
the
certification
I
think
is
still
does
need
to
go
through.
Do
JTC,
however,
that
I
think
that
some
of
the
training
could
actually
be
done
by
the
National
Guard.
Q
H
You
in
terms
of
qualification,
individual
qualifications,
I,
don't
think
you
could
find
a
a
stronger
Force
than
from
our
guard
and
reservice
currently
serving
guard
and
reservice,
because
they
represent
a
community-based
Defense
Force
here
in
Kentucky,
already,
both
collectively
as
as
well
as
individually
and
in
the
last
10
years,
10
plus
years
that
I've
worked
with
esgr.
H
One
of
the
things
that
we
participated
in
across
the
state
is
called
Soldier
Readiness
processing,
and
this
is
an
annual
event
that
takes
place
for
every
Soldier
and
every
unit
and
have
had
the
opportunity
to
literally
talk
oneon-one
with
almost
every
one
of
these
soldiers,
especially
with
the
National
Guard
and,
let's
you
know,
take
the
military
police,
for
example,
virtually
everyone
that
I've
ever
spoken
with
and
ask
you
know
what
they
want
to
do,
what
they
do
in
their
civilian
careers,
because
that's
what
we're
concerned
with
and
what
they
would
like
to
do
and
the
preponderance
of
them
all
spoke
vociferously.
H
I
guess
you
might
say,
of
of
being
being
able
to
leverage
their
military
training
as
a
military
police
officer
as
an
example
into
civilian
law
enforcement.
H
There
are
only
so
many
positions
available
out
there
and
I
do
know
that
they
readily
apply
when
necessary,
but
I
also
know
that
when
we
have
a
yellow
ribbon
event,
when
and
for
a
unit
that
has
returned
from
a
deployment,
you
will
see
a
number
of
law
enforcement
agencies
there
that
are
eagerly
trying
to
recruit
them,
whether
it's
the
Lexington
Police
Department,
the
Kentucky,
State,
Police
or
even
the
border
patrol,
are
there
because
they've
recognized
the
value
that
they
bring
to
the
table
as
currently
serving
members
of
the
guard
and
Reserve.
H
Also,
when
you
consider
the
fact
that,
on
a
yearly
basis,
you
know
we
we
do
drug
screens,
we
do
background
checks.
If,
if
you
will
most
all
of
them
have
security
clearances,
which
takes
a
considerable
amount
of
time
for
them
to
be
able
to
hold
their
positions,
and
we
we
do
all
of
these
things
to
make
sure
that
they
are
absolutely
ready
for
the
next
deployment
or
that
emergency.
When
the
governor
says
I
want
everybody
out
on
the
street
and
the
mobilizes,
the
National
Guard.
H
Yes,
we
do
all
of
those
things
and
that's
why
we
feel
that
we
have
a
ready
and
responsive
Force
available
to
meet
this.
P
Task,
I
just
add
a
few
more
things
to
that
discussion.
To
be
clear,
one
thing
we're
not
talking
about
is
militarizing
school
resource
officers.
That's
not
not
not
what
we're
discussing
here.
What
we're
discussing
is
the
fact
that
many,
especially
Kentucky
Army
National
Guard.
Many
of
these
people
hold
current
civilian
jobs.
P
They
have
excellent
schedules
that
would
work
around
this
position
in
particular
I,
don't
know
if
that's
irony
or
or
coincidence,
but
they
would
be
able
to
to
work
in
these
School
positions
while
working
around
their
guard
status
very
well,
but
in
a
civilian
capacity
again
appropriately
vetted
through
docjt,
and
the
current
current
structure,
with
the
State
security
marshal
and
then
through
the
local
security
Marshals
as
well.
P
So
we're
not
talking
about
militarizing
the
school
resource
officer
Force,
but
just
tapping
into
a
pool
of
people
that
we
feel
like
are
great
candidates
for
these
positions.
E
P
Senator
gerler
mentioned
we're
from
Somerset,
so
I'm
going
to
give
a
very
country
analogy
here
that
the
issue
that
was
brought
to
my
attention
is
is
similar
to
trying
to
pull
water
from
a
well
that's
dry,
noes
matter
how
nice
the
bucket
is
and
there's
no
water
to
be
pulled,
and
if
we
could
increase
the
amount
of
people
that
are
available
to
go
into
these
positions,
it
would
help
greatly
right
now.
Thank.
A
You
there
is
a
we
put
a
bill
in
or
Max
wise
had
a
bill,
probably
two
or
three
years
ago,
if
somebody,
the
Senate,
Mike
or
Senator
Wilson,
that
was
Senate
bill
one
and
we
were
the
pop
training
and
the
things
that
we
put
in
that
one
of
the
reasons
we're
looking
this
route
and
I
think
Max's
Senator
wise
I'm,
not
on
the
floor.
Senator
wise
is
looking
he's
talked
to
Mr
cumins
and
he's
looking
at
using
our
retired,
our
current
National
Guard
Reserve
and
not
going
20
weeks.
A
A
A
I
know
that
he's
same
age
as
my
son
and
I
said:
oh
man,
that's
wonderful,
I
said:
what's
he
going
to
do
when
he
gets
out
and
I
mentioned
Mr,
cumins
and
and
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
do
and
Mr
Gibson,
and
he
said
that's
what
he
wants
to
do
and
I
said
best
thing
in
the
world.
Tell
him
and
I
gave
him
my
number
and
all
that
this
is
the
reason
we're
looking
at
this
is
so
that
we
can
take
people,
that's
already
trained.
A
That's
already
been
there
done
that
and
can
do
a
training
of
some
sort
to
be
able
to
be
a
safety
officer,
and
one
of
the
things
we've
excuse
me.
One
of
the
things
we've
tried
to
do
is
looked
at
being
a
safety
officer,
not
a
police
officer.
If
somebody
comes
on
a
kid
comes
on
there
with
marijuana
he's
not
to
confiscate
the
marijuana
or
she
they
are
to
call
the
principal
and
the
principal
can
call
the
police
and
they
can
take
care
of
that
from
there.
A
If
somebody
comes
on
there
with
a
gun,
then
we
are
the
safety
officer
and
therefore
that's
what
we
are
trying
to
expedite
a
little
bit
faster
on
on
on
doing
this.
So
anyway,
you
got
something
you
want
to
add:
Mr
Gibson.
Q
Yes,
I
do
we've
looked
at
that
the
pops
training
you
know
it
just
takes
too
long
for
somebody
to
go
through
the
pops
training
and
especially
military.
They
do
not
need
all
that.
Q
They
don't
need
to
know
how
to
go
through
a
DUI,
stop
or
or
how
to
drive
a
car
in
a
Pursuit.
The
the
training
could
be
slimmed
down
so
much
to
to
do
exactly
what
they're
there
to
do
and
that's
protect
the
the
school
the
teachers
and
property
that's
on
the
school.
So
we
just
think
that
could
be
slammed
down
a
lot.
Of
course,
it's
going
to
take
some
change
in
legislation
as
far
as
some
of
the
other.
Q
You
know,
if
you,
if
you
look
at
the
definition
of
special
Deputy
they're,
not
to
be
paid
at
all,
a
special
Deputy
is
not
now
special
law
enforcement
officer
which
csro
can
fall
under
could
could
be
utilized,
but
then
I.
Then
you
have
to
wonder
if
it's
and
you
I'm
not
a
lawyer,
but
if
you
can
look
at
that
legislation,
it
says
it
now
Falls
under
the
Department
of
what
is
it.
The
safety
department
of
safety
I
think,
is
what
it
it's
commissioned,
underneath
them
and
not
under
the
sheriff's
department.
Q
So
there's
there's
a
lot
of
cleanup
that
needs
to
be
done
on
on
some
of
this
legislative
language
to
be
able
to
do
something
like
this,
but
we
just
feel
passionate
about
it.
All
all
of
us
feel
passionate
and
the
people
we've
talked
to
at
home.
We
talked
to
about
all
the
superintendents,
the
law
enforcement
officers,
there
principles
and
we're
all
passionate
on
protecting
our
our
kids
and
grandkids.
And
now
it's
my
grandkid.
But
that's
that's.
Why
we're
here
and
that's
why
we
want
to
look
at
making
it
better.
A
Thank
you.
We
got
some
some
questions
and
we'll
take
those
now
representative,
Johnson.
S
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
I
I
wanted
to
start
off
by
saying
that,
if,
if
you
look
at
the
memorandum
that
you
guys
provided
to
us,
one
of
the
panel
was
supposed
to
be
Sheriff,
Brad
Youngman,
and
he
is
my
Sheriff
from
Davis
County
and
unfortunately,
his
duties
this
morning
kept
him
from
being
able
to
be
here
this
morning,
but
he
and
I
did
talk
the
night
before
last
about
this
topic
and
I'll
shut
my
phone
up.
S
Sorry,
we
did
talk
about
this
and
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
couple
of
the
thoughts
that
he
he
gave
to
me
that
night
he
was
talking
about
the
recruiting
process
and
before
he
was
the
sheriff
of
Davis
County,
he
was
actually
on
the
the
Davis
County
Public
School
System
police
force.
S
He
ran
that
police
force,
so
he
has
some
experience
in
this
and
he
was
talking
about
when
they
started
looking
for
someone
to
hire,
they
required
that
they
be
pop
certified
before
they
would
even
consider
them
for
employment
simply
because
if
they
hired
somebody
that
was
non-
poop
certified,
they
had
to
get
them
into
the
school.
That
was
that
was
going
to
take
months,
and
then
it's
a
20we
course,
and
it
would
be
a
year
before
they
could
actually
put
this
person
into
the
school.
S
So
they
they
out
of
necessity,
wouldn't
even
consider
someone
that
wasn't
pop
certified
so
and
he
said,
we've
got
to
come
up
with
a
string
down
curriculum
for
the
school
resource
officers,
the
security
officers,
the
example
he
gave
was
out
of
that
20we
course.
Two
weeks
of
it
is
on
DUIs.
Well,
the
school
safety
officers
don't
need
to
know
how
to
process
DUIs.
S
They
don't
I
believe
that
if
they've
got
an
issue,
they
can
just
call
the
police,
and
he
gave
that
as
just
one
example
of
how
we
could
take
the
pop
certification
course
streamline
it
and-
and
you
gentlemen,
may
have
some
a
proposed
itinerary
for
the
course.
If
you
don't
I'd
I'd
like
you
to
do
that,
but
we
have
got
to
come
up
with
a
streamlined
system
where
we
can
get
these
people
into
the
schools
faster
than
than
just
the
pop
certification.
S
That
was
a
good
first
step,
but
we've
got
further
to
go
and
I
would
also
just
like
to
mention
and
I
want
to
thank
Sheriff
Youngman
for
his
comments
that,
from
the
conversation
we
had
but
I'd
also
like
to
mention,
we
need
to
not
forget
our
veterans.
They
have
many
of
the
same
training
qualifications
that
National
Garden
reservists
do
and
I
will
tell
you
when
a
veteran
separates
from
the
military.
S
The
first
two
questions
he
asked
himself
is
what
am
I
going
to
do
to
eat
and
put
a
roof
over
my
head
and
how
can
I
continue
to
serve
my
community,
and
many
of
them
would
love
to
be
able
to
do
this,
but
the
requirements
that
we
set
out
initially
rightfully
so
just
preclude
them
from
being
able
to
do
that
or
precludes
these
School
forces
from
from
even
considering
them
for
these
positions.
So
one
let's
find
that
itinerary.
S
P
P
Just
a
quick
followup
to
that
those
statements
in
the
the
question-
and
this
is
something
that
docjt
has
a
pretty
good
handle
on.
Currently
the
srl2
and
three
programs
are
something
that
I
feel
like
could
be
either
easily
added
to
or
even
possibly
have
a
prerequisite
to
that.
We
have
similar
developments
through
legislation
to
offer
abbreviated
training
for
court
security
officers
and
I.
P
Think
that's
something
that
we
could
look
at
correlating
an
abbreviated
course
prerequisite
to
go
straight
into
an
srl
one,
two
or
three
based
on
their
background
and
experience
as
a
veteran
or
current
National
Guard
member,
and
that's
something
that
we
could
definitely
look
at
to
correlate
past
training
in
the
military,
not
just
MPS,
but
also
just
everyday
soldiers,
receive
an
enormous
amount
of
training
on
Urban
involvement
and
things
that
do
correlate.
P
So
if
we
could
develop
Andor
just
add
to
possibly
the
the
srl
one2
and
three
in
comparison
to
something
like
the
abbreviated
court,
security
I
believe
it's
a
two-e
course
that
would
help
tremendously
and
those
were
easily
identifiable.
S
S
So
exactly
and
I
forgot
about
the
SRO
one,
two
and
3
the
parallels
are:
are
multiple
I
mean
there's
all
kinds
of
parallels
where,
if
we
would
just
use
a
little
Common
Sense
bring
these
things
together,
we
could
come
up
with
a
an
efficient
but
proper
training
scenario
for
these
guys
and
get
them
into
the
school's.
Much
much
faster
and
I
would
offer
to
you
guys
if
you've
got
some
language
that
that
we
need
to
do
to
modify
and
there's
not.
Somebody
already
doing
it
be
very
happy
to
to
help.
J
Cook
gentlemen,
thanks
for
being
here
today,
and
thanks
for
your
testimony
and
I
agree
with
some
of
what
you're
saying,
but
let
me
give
you
my
background.
I'm,
eight
years
in
a
Marine
Corps,
combat
deployments
checked
all
the
boxes.
Grunt
I
have
extreme
I
think
we
should
exercise
Extreme
Caution
with
this
I
think
it's
important
that
I
speak
up
about
this
role
of
military
is
different
way.
Different
than
role
of
a
police
officer.
I
am
I,
am
not
qualified
to
be
a
police
officer.
I
need
a
lot
of
training
to
take
that
on.
J
If
you're
going
to
ask
someone
to
be
a
school
resource
officer,
I
I'm,
assuming
that
we're
going
to
ask
them
to
carry
a
firearm
right,
many
of
your
National
Guard
I
think
a
lot
of
people
in
this
room
aren't
going
to
know
this.
A
lot
of
your
National
Guard,
a
lot
of
reservist
your
average
lance
corporal
inventory
Marine
is
not
qualified
on
a
pistol,
never
even
been
to
a
pistol
range.
You
know
these
are.
These.
Are
things
that
we're
going
to
have
to
talk
about
and
and
I
agree?
J
It's
a
wonderful
pool
to
select
from
it
is
a
great
starting
point
and
I
applaud
you
there
and
I
think
it's
a
great
starting
point,
but
I
was
sitting
here.
Writing
down
notes
as
fast
as
I
could
I
think
MOS
has
to
be
taken
in
to
consideration.
Mos
is
going
to
be
extremely
important
in
on
this.
Dd214S
are
going
to
be
extremely
important,
making
sure
that
they
have
honorable
discharge.
J
All
that's
going
to
have
to
be
teched
onto
that
I
think
you're,
going
to
look
at
I,
think
you're
going
to
need
coo
recommendations.
First,
sergeant
letters,
anything
that's
going
to
that,
just
going
to
be
able
to
State
what
kind
of
experience
that
they
have
U,
but
there
I
just
want
to
stress
to
everybody
in
this
room
before
we
go
jumping
on
this.
J
The
role
of
someone
who's
walking
in
the
mountains
of
Afghanistan
versus
the
role
of
somebody,
who's,
Walking,
The
Halls
of
Bourbon
County
Middle
School,
are
extremely
extremely
indifferent
and
I
know
that
pop
certified
seems
like
a
lot.
That's
going
to
go
on
there
you're
going
to
have
drunk
high
schoolers
there.
The
role
of
you
talk
to
a
school
resource
officer.
They
have
dealt
with
everything,
all
kinds
of
problems
and
I
think
we
just
have
to
be
very
careful
as
we're
looking
at
these
standards.
J
Reducing
standards
and
I
know
it's
a
popular
thing:
I
run
licensing
occupation,
I
am
digging
up
ways
to
reduce
licensing
and
and
and
dropping
that
barrier
to
work.
But
the
majority
of
what
a
school
resource
officer
going
to
is
going
to
be
doing
is
not
knocking
down
the
door,
because
there's
an
active,
shooter
they're
going
to
be
breaking
up,
fights
they're
going
to
be
pulling
that
kid
out
out
of
there.
J
That's
you
know
that
that
just
need
somebody
to
come
into
their
life
and
pull
them
out
and
walk
them
around
the
hallway
for
5
minutes
and
then
get
them
back
in
the
classroom,
and
these
are
all
things
that
we
have
to
think
about,
and
I
really
would
like
to
see
the
school
resource
officer.
The
police
Community
brought
in
heavily
on
this
to
talk
about
this
role
and
the
training
that
is
required
before
we
just
start
hey,
let's
cut
it,
let's
cut
it
you're
in
the
National
Guard
boom.
J
Now
you
can
be
a
school
resource
officer.
Here's
an
I
meil!
Good
luck
with
it!
There's
a
lot
of
training,
and
let
me
tell
you
something
when
you
got
to
draw
that
service
weapon
and
do
something
you
better
have
the
training
to
back
it
up
or
we're
going
to
have
PTSD
problems
and
a
lot
of
that
PTSD
comes
from
back
and
I'm,
getting
ready
to
go
down
a
whole.
J
Another
line
of
here
that
becomes
because
you
weren't
properly
trained
I,
know
I
had
a
sniper
platoon
and
you
made
damn
sure
that
every
person
in
that
platoon
is
going
to
be
a
trigger.
Poar
knew
what
they
were
going
to
be
doing
when
they
did
it,
because
if
you
don't
do
that,
you're
going
to
deal
with
PTSD
problems,
so
reducing
training,
it
sounds
fun.
It
sounds
quick.
J
We
better
be
dang
careful
in
this
body
before
we
before
we
jump
on
that
and
and
as
we
start
looking
at
these
school
resource
officer
and
behind
it,
1
million
per
I
have
voted
for
it.
I
will
vote
it
for
it.
Every
time
and
I
believe
school
resource
officers
need
to
be
armed,
but
we
have
to
have
the
training
that
goes
with
it.
Q
Thank
you,
Senator
cook,
the
we've
talked
to
the
sro's
in
the
in
the
schools
and
a
lot
of
the
schools
task
them
to
do
a
lot
of
things
that
they,
in
my
opinion,
that
they
shouldn't
even
be
doing.
If
it's
something
that's
a
that
they're
going
to
be
charged
charge
a
student
with
they
should
call
in
the
police
not
not
do
that.
Q
What
they
should
be
tasked
with
is
securing
the
school,
and
you
know
they're
not
going
to
be
at
dealing
with
active
Shooters
all
the
time,
but
I
would
rather
them
be
prepared
to
deal
with
that
active
shooter.
If
that
ever
happens,
and
as
we
know,
these
schools
are
always
the
the
oh
about
soft
targets.
So
these
these
small
schools
is
where
they,
where
they
come
into
and
I'd
be
more
apt
to
let
them
deal
with
that
than
I
would
be
some
long.
Law
enforcement
function
or
breaking
fights
up.
Q
I
mean
the
the
teachers
can
break
fights
up.
It's
not
that,
and
as
far
as
you're
talking
about
the
PTSD
and
all
this,
the
training
I
agree.
We
should
have
the
training
out
there
and
if
they
have
PTSD,
then
there
needs
to
be
restrictions
on
who's
authorized
to
do
it.
You
know
as
well
as
I
do
since
you
was
in
the
Marine
Corps
back
in
about
15
years
ago.
Some
of
the
general
officers
started
coming
out
talking
about
PTSD.
J
It's
a
perception:
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
talking
about
someone
having
pts
do
D
doing
it.
I'm
talking
about
I'm
talking
about
they
didn't
have
the
proper
training.
There
is
a
God
help
us
all.
There
is
a
school
shooting
and
then
they
do
something
and
they've
gone
from
zero
to
60
and
then
getting
PTSD.
That's
what.
J
And
then,
to
follow
up
on
that
I
think
we
better
bring
teachers
into
this
conversation,
because
my
wife's,
a
teacher,
all
right-
and
let
me
tell
you
that
school
resource
officer
that
she
has
he's
a
lifesaver
okay,
not
just
because
of
what
he
does.
You
know
guarding
the
school,
but
because
he
is
a
father
figure
walking
those
Halls.
So
you
can't
separate
those
missions.
It
is
the
same
Mission.
You
can't
just
have
that
school
resource
officer
and
pretend
they're
just
there
for
that
one
day.
J
That
might
never
ever
happen,
because
when
they're
walking
the
halls
and
they're
doing
all
that
they
have
to
be
trained
for
that
they're
going
to
be
multitasking
individuals,
it
takes
a
special
person
to
do
this
and
those
military
they
do
have
the
background.
I
know
that
they
have
this
background.
I
know
they
can
do
it
I'm.
Just
saying
we
need
to
exercise
caution
as
we
move
towards.
P
This
I
just
like
to
to
answer
a
couple
of
the
questions
there.
My
wife's
been
in
the
palaski
County
school
system
for
15
years
now,
and
I
have
two
daughters
currently
in
the
public
school
system
and
I
agree
with
you
on
on
most
of
what
you
you
said
here,
Senator
cook
couple
of
the
things
there
one
thing
again
we're
not
looking
to
bypass
or
reduce
the
amount
of
training.
I
know
it
came
across
that
way.
P
What
we're
looking
to
do
is
accept
and
give
credit
to
the
backgrounds
that
they
do
possess
and-
and
you
are
correct
on
the
fact
that
not
every
National,
Guard
or
reservist
possesses
the
skills
and
and
aptitudes
to
do
this.
We
currently
have
a
vetting
system
for
that,
so
these
people
are
not
prohibited
from
these
positions.
Currently,
they're
just
asked
to
go
through
a
much
lengthy
process
that
does
involve
things
that
they
they
don't
need,
such
as
the
DUI
training
and
other
things.
P
So
what
we're
looking
to
would
be
more
similar
I'm
as
Senator
girdler
mentioned,
I'm
I'm
a
currently
a
helicopter
pilot
and
I
received
military
competency
for
my
flight
school
training
at
Fort
Rucker,
which
granted
me
a
commercial
pilot's
license,
based
on
the
amount
of
training
that
I
had
there
and
currently
General
wler
is
working
on
similar
initiatives
that
have
been
pushed
through
for
CDLs
for
truck
drivers
in
the
military.
P
So
more
of
what
we're
looking
to
do,
isn't
necessarily
reduce
training
or
bypass
training,
but
it's
it's
accept
credit
for
backgrounds
and
aptitudes
and
Moss's
that
you
mentioned
that
do
give
them
a
a
great
set
of
skills
to
start
with
and
then
put
them
into
an
Avenue.
That
docjt
feels
comfortable
with
that
would
just
give
more
direct
and
more
focused.
P
More
purposeful
training
is
probably
a
better
way
of
saying
this,
and
that
would
also
cut
down
the
length
of
time
it
would
save
tax
dollars
in
necessary
training,
so
I
think
that's,
probably
a
clear,
Avenue
or
or
objective
that
we're
looking
at
versus
just
bypassing
and
doing
away
with
training.
We
don't
want
that.
P
My
wife
would
tell
you
she
doesn't
want
that
as
a
as
a
professional
educator,
but
we
also
have
a
change
in
our
forces
over
the
last
I
would
say
15
to
20
years,
and
maybe
even
more
recent
than
that,
so
that
my
time
in
the
National
Guard
was
very
heavily
focused
on
civil
versus
military
and
it
bridged
a
gap
tremendously
and
I'm,
not
saying
everyone
so
being
clear
there.
P
But
we
have
an
enormous
pool
of
people
that
have
spent
a
lot
of
time
working
hand
inand
with
law
enforcement.
I
did
for
six
years
all
the
way
from
local
sheriffs
to
DEA,
Customs
ice
federal
law
enforcement.
So
we
do
have
a
pool
of
people
out
there,
not
all,
but
we
do
have
a
large
pool
of
people
that
would
just
help
help
in
this.
A
Q
P
Kentucky
law
So,
currently
Kentucky
law
enforcement,
Council
and
the
State
security
Marshall,
who
happens
to
be
in
the
room
with
us
right
now
and
I'm
sure
he'll
have
a
lot
to
say
on
this
matter,
either
today
or
following
up
on
this,
but
he
currently
pro
has
processes
I'm
guessing
to
vet.
These
these
situations
already.
R
Thank
you
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
it's
my
understanding
that
the
way
these
SRO
are
hired,
our
local
Board
of
educations
contract
with
our
local
law
enforcement
agencies,
like
our
Sheriff's
departments
and
our
city
police
officers,
I
I,
just
text
texed,
my
some
folks
in
my
hometown
to
make
sure
that
I
was
correct
and
it
seems
our
Sheriff
Sheriff's
Department
contracts,
nine
schools
and
our
city
police
department
contracts,
four
schools
between
30
and
$60,000
per
SRO.
R
So
that
means
our
Board
of
Education
pays
ultimately
the
salaries
of
these
officers
to
these
departments
in
order
in
exchange
for
their
services
and
these
departments
certify
and
vet
and
make
sure
they
qualified
in
in
exchange.
So
what
agency
are
you
asking
that
there
be
another
Pool
for
our
local
police
departments
to
choose
from,
or
will
there
be
an
agency
that
you're
proposing
will
do
the
vetting
and
we
be
paid
and
hold
everyone
accountable
for
these
s?
These
hirings.
P
So,
there's
probably
some
someone
in
this
room
better
equipped
to
answer
this
question
than
myself,
but
in
the
last
few
months
of
research
that
we've
done.
Plasy
County,
for
example,
has
what
I
know
to
be
two
different
ways
that
you
can
serve
as
a
SRO.
One
is
in
a
part-time
status,
which
is
where
they
really
really
look
for
the
retired
peace
officers,
and
that
is
because
they're
already
receiving
the
benefits
they're
able
to
be
paid
directly
by
the
school
system.
P
The
other
is
that
it
is
a
full-time
position
where
the
sheriff's
department
supplies
a
deputy.
So
we
currently
have
two
different
ways
and
I.
Don't
know
if
that's
the
way
the
rest
of
the
counties
and
the
state
are
run,
but
that
that
does
create
some
issues
back
and
forth,
there's
a
little
bit
of
difference
in
in
who
they
think
they
work
for
and
who
has
the
ability
to
task
them
with
different
things.
P
E
P
As
well
as
the
sheriff's
department,
because
they
receive
equipment
and
things
from
the
sheriff's
department,
but
it
does
currently
create
a
muddied
for
lack
of
a
better
way
of
putting
it
structure,
and
some
other
counties
may
have
different
ways
that
they're
going
about
filling
these
positions.
But
in
my
mind
we
have
county
level
school
security
Marshals.
That
should
be
heavily
involved
in
that
process
as
a
Authority,
an
accountability
figure
and
they
all
answer
to
the
State
security
Marshall.
P
And
we
have
a
rank
structure
in
place.
That
I
feel
like
we
could
appropriately
vet
these
people
and
make
them
accountable
to
to
those
positions.
If
they're
not
already.
R
Followup,
please
go
so
so.
Ultimately,
I
have
seen
a
lot
of
retired
police
officers
coming
back,
coming
out
of
retirement,
but
they're
ultimately
going
to
work
for
either
our
city
police
departments
or
our
Sheriff's
Department
and
then
they're
going
into
the
school
system.
So
w
in
in
the
in
the
proposal
that
you
have.
Would
it
be
that
the
Board
of
Education
would
be
the
employer
aside
from
the
police
departments,.
Q
Yes,
that's
correct,
but
I
me.
Let
me
just
tell
you
that
we
don't
have
all
the
answers
here,
we're
we're
looking
for
maybe
to
get
a
committee
and
start
an
open
discussion
about
all
this
stuff
and
and
get
something
going.
You
know
the
the
legislation
was
put
out
there
for
have
one
SRO
per
school
and
some
counties
are
having
issues
with
getting
that.
Q
Many
and
you
know,
they're
not
not
pop
certified,
so
we're
trying
we're
just
trying
to
come
up
with
a
discussion
on
getting
things
started
out
and
we
don't
have
all
answers
and
I
hope
y.
All
don't
think
we
do,
but
I
mean
we're
open
to
any
suggestions
too.
We've
done,
you
know,
we've
done
back.
You
know
our
our
U
research
on
what
we
could.
R
Of
course,
I'm
I
appreciate
where
this
conversation
is
coming
from
trust
me,
especially
being
from
a
small
town
and
and
last
year,
as
many
people
know,
my
my
local
police
department
lost
three
officer.
R
Our
local
departments
lost
three
officers
in
a
in
a
shooting,
so
I
understand
when
you're
strapped
for
for
officers
but
and
I
appreciate,
where
you're
coming
from
I
just
had
some
questions,
knowing
how
this
operates
in
my
hometown,
because
when
we
first
implemented
sro's,
my
board
of
education
was
like
how
am
I
going
to
pay
for
these
police
officers
in
every
school.
It's
a
great
idea,
but
how
am
I
supposed
to
pay
for
these?
R
So
so
that's
why
I
was
sort
of
familiar
with
how
how
it
operated
and
and
I
didn't
know
where
the
vetting
you
know
who's
going
to
hold
the
who
who,
in
that
situation,
who
would
hold
them
accountable
aside
from
our
police
departments
and
vetting
and
making
sure
they
are
qualified
and
trained.
So
I.
Think
it's
a
wonderful,
don't
get
me
wrong.
Like
I
said,
I
appreciate
wholeheartedly
I'm
certain
they're
fully
qualified
just
just
wondering
about
your
structure.
I
understand
it's
a
it's!
A
starting
point,
so
thank
you
for
your
for
your
answers.
Q
I
think
I
think
different
departments.
Do
it
different
ways
too.
H
Q
Know
our
Sheriff's
Department,
even
though
they're
retired
police
officers
and
the
and
the
school
actually
pay
their
salary,
they,
the
sheriff's
department,
still
supplying
their
weapon
and
their
their
car
and
any
equipment
that
they
have.
So
it's
still
a
cost
on
the
sheriff's
department
for
an
SRO
that
they
can't
even
they
won't
even
take
advantage
of
if
they're
there
on
a
part-time
basis
and
a
lot
of
the
sheriffs
are
strapped
right
now,
because
they
it
takes
away
from
them
time
on
the
street.
I
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
gentlemen,
I
I,
I,
appreciate
you
being
here
and
I,
really
like
this
concept.
I
think
it
needs
to
be
explored,
but
we
got
to
be
careful.
I
agree
a
lot
with
what
representative
cook
had
said.
There's
there's
some
issues
that
need
to
be
overcome.
One
of
the
things
I
was
thinking
about
is:
have
you
guys
given
consideration
as
to
rank?
Who
would
you
allow
to
do
that
and
I
I
personally
would
like
to
see
no
one
under
an
NCO
rank,
E5
or
and
has
completed
the
lead.
The
initial
leadership.
P
Course
to
answer
that
question
I
I,
see
exactly
where
you're
coming
from
on
that
and
I.
Don't
know
that
you
can.
You
can
really
isolate
that
to
a
rank
as
an
answer
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
because
I
worked
with
a
lot
of
ncos
and
and
commissioned
officers
that
didn't
possess
the
maturity
to
hold
these
positions.
P
I
think
it
would
be
more
of
in
the
vetting
and
app
ation
process,
as
we
currently
do
right
now,
the
sheriff's
departments,
when
they
interview
these
people,
you
get
a
feel
for
somebody
and
their
maturity
level
and
their
aptitudes
and
I
think
that's
extremely
important
here.
I,
don't
know
that
we
could
pin
it
down
to
a
rank.
I
think
it's
something
to
consider
for
sure,
but
I
think
it
would
probably
lean
more
heavily
on
the
application
process.
P
The
interview
process
to
see
if
this
this
person
is
capable
of
doing
it.
We
currently
have
a
lot
of
very
young
deputies.
It
was
a
discussion
we
had
on
the
way
up
here
right
now
that,
even
if
we
don't
open
up
this
Avenue,
we
have
the
ability
right
now
to
have
deputies
that
are
I
mean
in
their
early
20s
or
possibly
even
younger.
I.
Q
P
Early
20s
individual
U,
which
would
be
comparable
to
a
enlisted
lower
enlisted
E12
3
four,
those
types
of
ranks
so
I
think
in
my
my
opinion,
is
all
that
is
is
that
it
would
be
very
heavily
weighted
on
the
application
process
and
interview
process,
which
we
currently
do
just
to
to
weed
out
those
that
don't
possess
the
maturity.
Leadership
training
would
be
very
beneficial
in
that,
but
I,
don't
know
that
the
rank
alone
would
would
justify
being
a
qualified
candidate.
In
my.
I
Opin
and
I
agree
with
you,
I
think
the
rank
would
be
a
start
and
then
the
the
process.
What
you
just
talked
about
would
be
one
thing,
because
when
I
see
an
E5,
a
sergeant
I
know
that
he's
got
at
least
you
know
three
or
four
years
in
I
know
that
he's
got
weapons.
Training,
firearm
safety
is,
you
know
things
that
he
has
done.
He
knows
how
to
handle
a
weapon.
He
knows
how
to
lead
troops
and
you're
going
to
be
putting
this
guy.
I
A
Thank
you,
representative,
masseron.
L
Yes,
thank
you
chair
a
lot
of
the
drug
uses.
Overdoses.
Drug
dealing
is
not
being
reported
to
our
local
law
officials.
I.
Don't
think
that
should
be
handled
in
house
by
by
the
resource
officers
and
I
know
it's
something
we
need
to
work
on.
So
I
do
I
just
more
of
a
comment,
so
I
do
appreciate
you
all
bringing
this
forward,
because
I
think
our
resource
officers
have
are
doing
way
more
than
they
should
they're
being
investigators
and
then
there's
no
consequences
for
the
kids
at
stealing
drugs
or
overdoses
or
anything.
Q
L
P
I'm
sure
it's
different
at
every
school
Dynamic
we've
actually
had
some
comments
from
our
sro's
that
state
that
you
know
if
they
do
those
things
or
they
enforce
those
things,
then
they
lose
trust
of
the
student
body
and
one
of
the
single
biggest
factors
in
the
safety
of
the
school
is
having
trust
in
the
student
body
so
that
those
students
could
come
forward
to
them
with
bigger
problems.
P
For
example,
you
know
somebody
that
talks
about
bringing
a
firearm
to
school
or
to
do
do
some
type
of
harm
to
someone,
so
they
they.
It's
almost
like
a
double-edged
sword.
They
get
put
into
this
situation
to
where
the
students
need
to
have
trust
in
that
SRO
position,
and
if
they're
constantly
writing
them
citations
for
Vaping
or
having
drugs
or
those
different
types
of
things,
then
they
lose
Trust
of
the
entire
student
body.
P
They
become
more
of
a
an
outcast
in
that
group
and
they
need
to
be
able
to
maintain
that
trust
of
the
students
for
the
safety
and
the
biggest
single
Factor
right
now.
The
reason
this
discussion
was
started
was
that
our
assistant
superintendent
came
to
us
after
the
most
recent
school
shooting
and
said
you
know
all
this
other
stuff
is
secondary.
Every
bit
of
it
is
secondary
and
that's
what
the
sheriff's
departments
need
to
be
able
to
do.
P
They
need
to
be
able
to
be
called
in
and
enforce
those
things
so
that
the
school
resource
officers
can
do
one
thing
as
a
priority
and
that's
protect
the
life
of
the
children
and
the
teachers
and
they're
constantly
distracting
from
that.
So
there's
so
much
of
a
personality
Dynamic
that
goes
into
this
as
well,
where
those
student
resource
officers
or
school
resource
officers
need
to
have
the
trust
of
the
school,
and
that's
that's
definitely
something
that
complicates.
A
It
we've
got
maybe
some
answers
back
there
to
some
of
these
questions
if
I
can
get
Mr,
Willcox
and
Mr
Jackson
and
you
all
could
hang
around
and
they
may
cut
right
to
the
chase.
So
if
y'all
would
come
up
and
then
John
mly
can
come
up
after
that,
would
that
be
all
right?
Thank
you.
Thank
you
and
then
I
will
get
I'll
I'll.
Let
you.
C
L
T
Is
John
Mobberly
I
am
the
executive
director
of
our
Kentucky
law
enforcement,
Council,
I'm
retired
from
the
Kentucky
State
Police
I
have
been
in
law
enforcement
for
over
33
years
now,
I
as
the
executive
director,
you
may
not
be
familiar
with
the
Kentucky
law
enforcement
Council,
but
the
duties
of
that
involve
a
lot
of
different
things,
including
the
Professional
Standards.
So
that's
the
the
hiring
requirements
we
oversee
all
the
training
requirements.
We
oversee
reciprocity,
so
anybody
that
is
trained
outside
of
Kentucky.
That
wants
to
come
in
and
be
a
police
officer.
T
We
oversee
that
and
we
oversee
the
instructor
certification.
So
if,
if
you
want
to
be
an
instructor
in
the
law
enforcement
realm,
then
we
have
standards
for
that
as
well.
Thank.
G
You
good
morning,
thank
you
for
having
me
my
name
is
Ben
Wilcox
I'm,
the
state
school
security
marshal
for
the
state
of
Kentucky.
Our
office
is
tasked
with
doing
all
risk
assessments
on
every
locally
controlled
school
in
the
state
of
Kentucky.
Our
compliance
officers
are
Regional
and
go
in
every
year
to
do
risk
assessments.
We
also
assist
with
the
SRO
training,
SRO,
1
2
and
three
and
U.
G
If
it
would
I'll
go
over,
I
was
asked
to
come
up
and
talk
about
numbers
and
where
we
are
in
training
with
our
sro's
and
got
some
actually
some
good
news
and
kind
of
want
to
compare
what
where
we
started.
I'll
try
to
make
this
quick,
because
I
know
we're
running
out
of
time.
The
school
safety
and
resiliency
act
calls
for
one
school
resource
officer
for
every
campus.
Initially,
that
was
one
for
every
school.
G
We
changed
that
or
the
legislation
changed
that
I
think
in
2020
to
one
on
every
campus.
We
now
have
1,79
campuses
in
the
state
of
Kentucky.
When
the
school
safety
and
resilienc
asked
was
passed,
there
were
412
SRO.
We
now
have
685
sros
in
the
state
of
Kentucky.
Now
our
numbers
are,
we
do
our
risk
assessments.
G
We
come
up
with
our
numbers
with
our
risk
assessments
that
numbers
are
published
in
September
1st
by
legislation
every
year
and
then
Kentucky
Center
for
school
safety
is
legislatively
mandated
to
come
up
with
how
many
SRO
we
have
in
the
state.
Obviously
that
changes
from
year
to
year,
their
report
will
be
coming
out
soon.
They've
just
started
collecting
the
numbers
on
that,
so
we'll
be
be
able
to
get
more
numbers.
G
So
our
numbers
that
you're
hearing
today
are
a
collaboration
between
us
and
Kentucky
Center
for
school
safety,
so
2022
when
we
did
the
survey
for
HB
63,
which
required
a
SRO
on
every
campus
as
funds
and
personel
become
available,
we're
at
basically
56%
of
the
campuses
covered
by
the
by
our
SRO.
We
have
758
schools
that
are
covered
by
sro's
and
right
about
1300
schools.
G
So
an
SRO
has
coverage
over
a
school,
but
he
may
he
or
she
may
have
more
than
one
school
because
of
the
campuses
talking
about
the
SRO,
training
and
and
I'd
love
to
take
questions
on
kind
of
where
we
at
and
what
we
do.
But
the
SRO
one.
Two
and
three
is
a
certification
for
our
sro's.
G
You
have
to
be
pop
certified
to
be
a
SRO
and
I'm
very
proud
to
say
that
I
am
I'm
I'm,
formerly
SRO
I
became
an
SRO
in
1999
right
after
the
shootings
in
Coline
was
assigned
to
to
Montgomery
County
school
system
and
I
was
the
first
SRO
and
really
at
that
point.
G
I
had
a
lot
of
law
enforcement
experience,
but
I
didn't
have
any
experience
being
SRO
and
I
kind
of
had
to
figure
out,
as
we
went
with
the
passing
the
school
safety
and
resiliency
act,
120
hour
certification
for
all
sro's
we're
the
only
state
in
the
country.
That's
doing
that.
Much
certification
for
our
school
resource
officers
and
I'll
kind
of
explain
why
it's
so
important
that
school
resource
officer
is
basically
patrolling
a
microcosm
of
their
jurisdiction.
G
They're
doing
all
things
that
a
police
officer
would
that
was
patrolling
on
the
street,
but
yet
working
with
students
in
the
schools
and
having
that
120
hours
makes
a
specialized
unit
after
that
SRO
that
SRO,
you
just
can't
put
a
police
officer
into
a
school.
You
have
to
train
them.
How
to
be
a
SRO
and
I
feel
it
very
important
that
we
can
finally
say
that
people
are
looking
at
sro's
as
a
specialized
unit,
maybe
even
the
most
specialized
unit
that
we
have
in
the
State.
We
have
detectives.
G
We
have
K9
officers,
we
have
SWAT
team
members,
but
I
think
the
most
specialized
unit
is
going
to
be
your
SRO
by
law.
We
have
to
have
at
least
one
one
trusted
adult
for
every
student
in
the
state
of
Kentucky
and
at
SRO.
G
Is
that
one
trusted
adult
for
a
lot
of
kids
so
going
over
what
our
training
entails
for
sro's
by
law,
foundations
of
school-based
law
enforcement
threat,
assessment
and
response,
youth,
drug
and
abuse
school
resource
officers
as
teachers
and
mentors
youth,
mental
health
awareness,
diversity
and
Bess
awareness,
training,
understanding
student
with
special
needs,
deescalation
strategies,
social
media
and
cyber
security
and
Trauma
informed
action?
That's
all
training,
that's
received
in
sro1,
that's
the
first
40-hour
course
that's
required
for
our
sro's.
G
We
didn't
write
sro2
until
we
taught
sro1
and
then
we
brought
our
officers
in
and
we
said
what
do
we
need?
What
do
you
need
as
sro's
and
we
thought
they'd
say:
more
active,
shooter,
training,
more
firearms
training,
they
looked
at
us
and
said
we
are
great
at
being
cops.
We
need
to
learn
how
to
be
SRO.
We
need
more
Mental
Health
Training.
We
need
more
trauma,
informed
care
training.
We
need
training
on
how
to
work
with
these
kids,
so
what
we
have
done
is
added
a
lot
more
of
that
to
our
SRO
training.
G
We
are
working
to
make
the
SRO
training
more
available
to
our
sro's
I
really
wanted
to
bring
this
up.
Today
we
are
now
going
to
be
regionally
training.
Our
sro's,
our
our
compliance
officers
again
are
risk
RK
assessment
officers
and
we'll
be
utilizing
some
of
them
to
assist
in
training
but
we'll
be
using
Hopkins
County
for
SRO
training,
eTown
along
with
Boon
County
and
back
in
Richmond,
and
we're
going
to
do
our
SRO
training
during
the
summer
months.
G
So
we
don't
have
to
pull
our
sro's
out
of
schools
during
an
actual
school
school
year
and
that's
what
we're
getting
from
our
superintendent
is
like.
We
don't
want
to
lose
our
sro's.
We
don't
want
them
to
go
to
training
for
a
week.
We
want
them
in
the
schools,
so
we're
actually
going
to
be
doing
our
SRO
training
during
the
summer
months
and
it's
going
to
be
Regional.
So
it's
easier
for
our
SRO
to
make
that
so
other
things
I
just
want
to
go
over
is
again
the
SRO.
G
That's
in
the
school
is
a
full-time
police
officer.
They
can
make
arrests,
they
should
be
making
arrest
because
in
the
U
passing
the
school
safety
and
resiliency
act,
one
of
the
issues
I
came
up
with
as
a
SRO
was
that
the
schools
didn't
know
how
to
utilize
me
and
they
thought
well,
if
his
kid's
just
being
bad
we're
going
to
call
Deputy
Wilcox
and
he's
going
to
come
down
there
and
arrest
them.
That's
not
what
we
do.
G
G
The
schools,
as
for
DUIs
I'll,
have
to
say
I've
arrested
more
than
one
DUI,
while
on
school
grounds
it
hate
to
say
it,
but
you
get
that
call
when
a
parent
is
coming
through
the
pickup
line
to
pick
up
their
child
and
they
smell
alcohol
on
them
and
that's
when
the
officer
has
to
step
in
and
make
that
because
they
are
protecting
students.
That's
what
they're
there
for
so
I'll.
Take
any
question
you
have
on.
Actually,
what
training
we
have
as
for
sro's
or
how
it
works
in
the
state
I
know.
G
There's
some
questions
out
there.
I
don't
want
to
try
to
cover
Everyone
by
just
talking
I'll.
Let
you
ask
the
question
and
of
course,
director
Mobberly
can
come
up
with
and
talk
to
you
about
reper
cross
and
then
the
actual
training
standards
that
go
into
being
a
police.
A
Officer
we
we
got
some
questions.
Let
me
get
Senator.
B
Boswell,
thank
you
Mr
chairman
and
thank
you
representative
cook,
for
your
comments
earlier
I
thought
those
were
excellent
comments
as
I
see
this
I
think
the
the
real
problem
right
now
is.
We
have
a
shortage
of
resource
officers
in
our
state.
Now
back
during
a
legislative
session.
There
was
some
difficult
bills
here
and
unfortunately,
at
my
church
we
had
to
have
height
security
and
most
of
the
people
that
take
that
do
the
security
at
our
church
and
our
Christian
school
are
trained
with
conceal
weapon
permits.
B
You
know
they
they're
can
they
know
how
to
they
know
they
know
how
to
use
a
weapon,
but
I
will
just
say
this.
I
may
be
an
outliner
here
for
me
personally,
the
most
important
thing
for
me
when
I
and
my
14
grandchildren,
whether
they
in
private
private
schools
or
public
schools,
there
would
be
a
lot
there.
There
be
an
armed
person
who
knows
how
to
use
that
weapon
on
the
school
property.
I,
don't
care.
If
he's
friends
with
my
grandkids
I,
don't
care.
B
If
he's
friends
with
the
teachers
I've
been
around
recently
been
around
the
attorney
general
Daniel,
Cameron
and
I've
been
around
the
governor
son
and
they
have
a
security
detail.
Those
people
are
there
for
one
purpose
and
one
purpose
only
to
protect
those
individuals
who
are
at
high
level
office
in
our
state
and
that's
the
way,
I
view.
My
primary
concern
is
to
have
someone
now
on
those
properties:
who's
cont
who's
there
to
protect
the
children
and,
as
we
go
into
the
future,
the
more
training
that
person
can
get.
B
A
Thank
you,
representative,
Hart.
E
Several
I
had
two
questions,
and,
and
both
of
them
have
pretty
much
been
answered.
I
would
just
like
to
emphasize,
as
we
move
forward
with
this
process,
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
and
a
lot
of
due
diligence
that
need
to
be
done
before
we
make
any
changes
and
I
think
all
parties
here
agree
on
that
and
I
would
also
mention
my
experience
in
the
military.
E
As
an
enlisted
person,
you
probably
need
to
Target
Moss's,
specific
Moss's
and
not
just
say
military
personnel,
because
not
everybody
in
the
military,
you
might
be
an
admin
guy
or
a
logistics
guy,
are
qualified
and
have
the
particular
qualifications
that
you're
looking
for
so
I
would
Target,
Moss's
and
I.
Don't
necessarily
think
I
I
can
see
the
the
logic
behind
representative
Sharp's
comment
about
rank,
but
also
you've
got
you've
got
people
that
serve
in
the
National
Guard
and
the
reserves
that
are
e3s
and
e4s
that
are
police
officers.
E
N
E
E
You
know
if
you're
wanting
them
to
be
specific
law
to
enforce
laws
on
a
school
campus,
which
I
think
maybe
is
probably
Overkill,
then
you,
you
you're,
probably
going
to
need
to
pop
certifications,
but
if
you're
wanting
specialized
security,
Personnel
that
are
trained
on
firearm
use,
arrest,
powers
and
stuff
like
that,
that
that's
going
to
be
definitive
to
what
they're
doing
to
protect
that
school,
then
you
can
probably
listen
to
training
a
little
bit
and
specialize
it
you
they
need
to
have
more
training
than
just
a
common
security
guard.
E
That's
that's
licensed
to
carry
a
firearm.
They
need
to
be
a.
They
need
to
have
training
like
police
officers
and
Military,
especially
I
went
through
the
MP
Academy
with
the
Army.
You
know
you're
training
on
how
to
engage
somebody.
They
need
that
type
of
training.
Your
security
Personnel,
don't
know
normally
get
all
that
so
I
guess.
My
point
is:
there's
a
lot
of
discussion.
A
lot
of
good
ideas
are
being
thrown
out
here
and
I've
listened
to
a
lot
of
comments
that
I
agree
with.
F
Br,
thank
you.
Chair,
I,
appreciate
your
all
service
and
you
all
being
here
today.
I
think
this
is
a
really
good
idea.
I
do
not
from
my
understanding
the
National
Guard
hadn't
been
contacted.
F
We
hav't
the
the
Tag's
office
is
not
even
aware
of
this
concept,
so
I
would
think
that
and
then
the
other
qu
I
would
think
that
before
we
come
back
because
I'm
sure
you'll
come
back
with
some
more
information
that
we
at
least
reach
out
to
the
National
Guard
and
see
what
their
thoughts
are
on
this,
because
we
right
now
they're
not
aware
of
anything
going
on
and
the
other.
The
other
point
I
want
to
make
was
that
Department
of
Criminal
Justice
training
is
very
particular
about
their
training
and
their
very,
very
protective
of
it.
F
So
I'd
like
to
know
if
you
have
worked
with
them
and
come
up
with
any
concepts,
what's
what's
their
thoughts?
Do
they
support
this?
Do
they
not
because
the
last
I've
heard
that
they
weren't
very
supportive
of
this
either
so
we're
going
to
have
there's
some
some
barriers,
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
go
through
before
we
get
to
this.
This
point
and
I
support
it
I
think
it's
a
good
idea,
but
I
think
before
we
come
back
and
we
move
forward
on
this.
F
We
really
need
to
get
the
National
Guard
and
the
Department
of
Criminal
Justice
training,
both
involved
and
aware
of,
what's
going
on
at
least
on
track
with
it,
and
then
the
other
issue
was
if
we
fix
the
backlog
of
the
Justice
training
stuff
going
on
now
we
have
officers
waiting
six
months,
seven
months
almost
a
year
to
get
into
training
right
now.
If
we
fix
that
issue,
would
it
also
help
fix
the
issue
with
the
school
resource.
G
P
To
answer
part
of
your
question
on
that,
as
we
mentioned
earlier,
this
is
the
beginning
of
the
conversation
for
us.
We've
done
an
enormous
amount
of
research
in
the
last
six
months
and
the
National
Guard
members
that
I
did
reach
out
to
most
of
which
are
retired
or
recently
retired,
that
worked
with
joint
support
operations
have
advocated
for
it.
So
that's
where
the
discussion
has
begun
now,
General
werzer,
currently
with
the
National
Guard,
received
a
very
brief
phone
call
from
me
in
the
very
beginning
stages
of
this.
P
So
please
know
that
he's
not
engaged
officially
at
this
capacity
U,
but
he
supported
the
initial
idea
of
it
and
and
he's
also
like
I,
said
mentioned
earlier.
He
started
working
on
the
correlation
military
competency
for
CDL
stuff
and
those
types
of
initiatives.
So
that's
where
that
conversation
began,
but
the
the
fact
is
is
that
we
are
just
beginning
this
conversation
and
I.
Think
Mr
Willcox
would
agree.
We
need
both.
We
need
both
security
guards.
We
need
both
SRO
that
can
do
everything
because
those
those
are
needs
in
the
schools.
P
The
fact
is,
we
don't
have
enough
people
and
what
we're
simply
advocating
is
that
we
tap
into
a
resource
that
could
be
provided
to
Mr
Willcox,
to
plus
up
the
number
of
people
he
can
put
through
training
and
and
just
provide
more
people.
So
I
think
it's
something
that
we
likely
have
a
lot
more
to
discuss,
as
well
as
the
involvement
with
the
National
Guard.
Officially.
F
I
I
totally
agree
I
support,
but
I
don't
think
we
need
to
get
the
you
know
so
far
in
front
of
the
band.
We
don't
hear
the
music
here
so
I
think
we
need
to
backtrack
and
talk
to
the
National
Guard
talk
to
DOD
Department
of
Criminal
Justice
training
and
see
what
I'm
sure
they
have
some
pretty
creative
ideas
as
well.
I
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
I
have
a
question
for
director
Mobberly.
The
military
police
certification.
Does
that
qualify
for
state
reciprocity.
T
To
answer
that
question
after
so
many
years,
what
we
do
is
we
weigh
out
the
amount
of
training,
so
a
a
typical
MP
that
goes
to
fort
fort
leonardwood,
which
is
where
the
primary
location
for
MPS
are
trained.
Typically
has
less
than
400
hours
of
police
related
training
in
Kentucky.
We,
the
training
that
we
require,
has
to
be
at
least
800
DLC
JT
I
believe
is
827
right
now,
Kentucky
State
Police
over
a
th000
Louisville
Metro
over
a
th000.
So
what
we
have
to
do
is
we
take
years
of
service?
T
This
is
all
statutorily
mandated
how
this
all
comes
out
and
through
through
our
KS
that
basically
says
that,
for
every
year
of
actual
full-time
law
enforcement
service
they
can
get
50
hours
of
credit
added
on
to
the
original
training.
So
the
typical
MP
will
graduate
with
360
380
I've,
seen
some
barely
over
400,
but
then
we
have
to
look
at
their
experience.
T
So
what
we'll
start
looking
for
and
we've
got
a
form
we
engage
them
directly
and
we
find
out
what
was
your
exact
duties
if
they
were
assigned
to
a
guard
poost
guarding
a
missile
guarding
an
entry
site
that
doesn't
count
we
want.
We
want
to
see
actual
law
enforcement
activity,
engaging
the
public
dealing
with
critical
incidents,
those
kinds
of
things
that
that
we
want
to
make
sure
that
these
this
this
experience
can
parlay
into
something
where
they
can
come
into
a
Kentucky
community
and
be
able
to
protect
the
community
and
not
be
a
liability.
T
So
typically
the
so.
This
past
year,
2022
I
had
over
70
requests
for
reciprocity,
approximately
60
something
per
of
those
were
approved.
The
average
I
guess
MP.
That
applies
typically
has
just
over
four
years
as
an
MP.
So
when
you
do
the
math
statutorily,
we
could
not
even
approve
them.
We
we
try
to
give
them
Credit
in
every
which
way
that
we
can
of
those
individuals
over
70
reciprocity.
T
Only
as
of
this
was
a
couple
months
ago,
when
I
checked
these
numbers,
but
as
of
just
a
few
months
ago,
only
seven
of
them
were
actually
active
police
officers
in
Kentucky,
so
70
applied,
approximately
40
were
approved
and
seven
actually
accepted
and
started
working
in
the
job.
Two
of
those
have
already
resigned.
So
we
we
have
a
process
for
reciprocity
and
I.
Think
it's
it's
pretty
good.
We
we
vet
those
very,
very
carefully.
I
T
There
are
only
three
states
that
actually
allow
direct
reciprocity,
so
you
can
come
out
as
long
as
you're.
You
know
you
went
through
the
MP
school
at
Fort
leonardwood,
you
get
reciprocity,
but
I
think
the
legislator
had
enough
legislation
had
enough
insight
to
recognize
that
it's
kind
of
like
what
I've
heard
discussed
here,
that
not
every
MP,
not
every
veteran,
is
going
to
have
the
skills
that
I
think.
We
hope
that
they
have
to
serve
our
community
properly.
I
A
Thank
you.
I
know
this
has
went
a
little
along,
but
in
defense
our
most
precious
Commodities
are
our
kids.
I've
got
nine
of
them.
Nine
grandkids
and
I
can't
imagine
putting
them
through
something
like
this.
A
Without
us
knowing
and
putting
protection
for
those
grandkids
and
they're
small,
you
know
like
Somerset,
City
schools
and
plasy
county
is
a
big
campus
and
and
I
and
I
do
worry
about
those
and
I
got
a
17-year-old
grandson
right
now
that
when
these
things
go
on
his
first
question
is
Papa
I'm
I'm
scared,
death,
somebody's
going
to
come
through
the
door
on
us
and
and
so
I'm
like
cator
Boswell.
You
know
what
all
I
want.
Somebody
stop
that
idiot.
That's
coming
through
the
door,
it's
all
I
want,
and
so
we
need
to
study
it.
A
I
know
that
and
I
know
that
the
PTSD
and
the
things
of
that
nature.
You
know
I've
been
the
insurance
business
and
I
know
that
you
know
what
goes
on
there,
but
this
is
a
very.
This
is
the
most.
In
my
opinion,
this
is
the
most
important
subject.
We've
got
this
whole
session
and
and
I
hope
that
we
can
all
come
together
and
get
this
thing
taken
care
of,
because
we
need
how
many
campuses
do
you
say
we
got
without
Sr.
A
So
the
this
is
very
important
to
me
and
so
and
I
know
it
went
long
and
and
John
you
can
add
anything.
You
want
to
add.
If
you'll
give
me
two
or
three
minutes.
T
Sir,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
I'd,
like
to
answer
some
of
the
questions.
I
think
that
that
did
come
up
already
earlier,
the
SRO
process
or
the
the
mechanism
to
actually
become
an
official
SRO.
There
are
three
ways:
I
know
that
was
something
that
that
was
brought
up.
You
can
actually
be
employed
by
a
local
law
enforcement
agency
or
Sheriff's
Department.
T
That's
one
way
and
that's
what
we're
most
familiar
with
last
year,
a
legislation
passed
that
allowed
for
what
we
call
School
based
law
enforcement
agencies,
in
other
words,
that
school
can
create
their
own
law
enforcement
entity
and
there's
a
lot
of
rules
and
things
about
that.
The
individuals
that
work
as
SRO
through
that,
of
course,
they
have
to
go
through
the
same
process.
They
have
to
be
certified,
they
have
complete
our
Professional
Standards
and
they
have
to
complete
the
SRO
trainings
that
the
school
Marshall's
office
is
now
producing
the
third
way.
T
It
was
also
mentioned
by
these
gentlemen,
in
that
the
special
law
enforcement
officer,
but
that
that
there
is
a
there
is
a
it's
a
very
confusing
term.
The
special
law
enforcement
officer
on
its
own
is
a
non-certified
individual.
T
If
you
think
back
to
what
Jefferson
County
had
a
couple
of
years
ago,
that's
what
they
were,
they
were
special
Law
Enforcement
Officers.
They
were
not
SRO
certified.
Now
all
of
those
individuals
were
retired
police
officers,
but
the
school
did
not
want
them
working
within
the
school.
They
wanted
them
working
out
of
a
central
location
or
patrolling
something
along
those
lines.
It
did
not
meet
the
standards,
the
very
good
standards
that
that
were
legislated
several
years
ago.
So
those
are
the
three
ways.
Well
so
I
guess
I
need
to
clarify
this
a
little
bit
more.
T
So
you
have
the
special
law
enforcement
officer.
That's
what
Jefferson
County
had
there's
another
term
that
we
utilize
called
a
sleo,
which
is
the
acronym
for
special
law
enforcement
officer,
SL
SRO,
and
what
that
is.
Is
it's
a
contract
position
that
the
that
the
county,
the
city
can
can
create
with
an
officer
an
individual
that
that
they
actually
supervise?
They
are
not
connected
to
a
police
department
or
Sheriff's
agency,
and
they
basically
directly
pay
them
as
a
police
officer.
It's
because
they
they
have
already
been
certified
and
they've
attended,
SRO
training.
T
What
that?
What
that
does
is
allows
them
to
have
more
control
of
what
they
want
done,
which
is
not
necessarily
always
a
good
thing.
I
would
think,
but
it
it
is
being
done
and
I,
don't
know
how
many
of
those
that
we
have
I,
don't
think
there's
many
anymore,
but
that's
that's
the
third
way
to
actually
be
an
SRO
special
law
enforcement
officer.
If
I
start
going
over.
Please
stop
me
and
I
apologize.
T
The
special
law
enforcement
officer
position
is
something
that
is
an
individual
who,
by
Statute,
has
to
have
minimal
training.
So
if
you
see
the
the
facility
security
individuals
at
the
state
capital,
those
individuals
that
work
for
the
state
police
that
are
wearing
the
tan
colored
uniforms,
those
individuals
are,
they
only
have
police
powers
on
this
campus.
So
that's
what
a
a
sleo
has:
it's
a
commissioned
law
enforcement
position
with
very
minimal
training
and
just
a
couple
of
weeks
of
training,
and
they
only
have
the
police
powers
on
that
property.
T
So
that's
what
you
could
create
a
s,
possession
position
at
any
school
in
the
state
of
Kentucky
right
now,
but
what
I?
What
I
want
to
remind
everybody
of
school
resource
officer?
If
you
break
that
down
with
what
it
is
and
the
officer
position,
so
as
a
school
resource
officer,
we
talk
about
the
shooting
and
being
able
to
protect
our
our
students
and
I
agree.
My
wife,
my
dad
and
I've
still
got
a
son.
That's
in
high
school,
it's
important,
it's
important
to
all
of
us,
but
training
has
has
significantly
changed
for
law
enforcement.
T
It
is
so
much
more
critical,
it's
so
much
more
indepth
and
you
don't
want
them
to
learn
how
to
do
something.
You
don't
want
to
learn
just
how
to
respond.
You
want
them
to
be
excellent
at
it
and
that's
why
you,
you
don't
see
a
lot
of
the
incidents
in
Kentucky
that
you
see
elsewhere
and
the
and
I'm
I'm
I'm
a
part
of
an
organization
I'm,
a
representative
of
an
organization
called
I
adist.
T
That's
the
International
Association
of
directors
of
law
enforcement
standards
and
training,
and
we
are
the
Envy
of
the
United
States
because
of
our
training.
The
way
it's
structured
with
klep
legislators
back
going
all
way
back
to
the
60s
created
something
that
nobody
else
has
and
then
you
look
at
what
the
SRO
is.
We're
number
one
in
the
nation
for
school
resource
officers.
T
If
that's
what
you
want
in
your
school
that
statute
that
he
talked
about
right,
there
lays
it
all
out
if
you
want
to
put
a
security
guard,
if
you
want
to
put
somebody
with
a
gun
at
the
door,
I
understand
it's
all.
In
many
cases,
I
I
hate
to
bring
this
up,
but
it's
an
unfunded
mandate.
People
can't
afford
it.
I
I
have
people
on
our
Council
right
now,
a
sheriff
who
pays
his
SRO
$14
an
hour.
You
know
you're
not
going
to
get
people
doing
that.
T
I
go
to
Fort
Campbell
tried
to
get
people
to
to
come
into
law
enforcement.
We
have
a
program
called
m2l
military
to
law
enforcement.
I
won't
get
into
the
details
of
that
because
it's
a
it's
a
fantastic
program.
We
actually
bring
people
directly
and
train
them,
while
they're
still
active
military,
but
when
I
go
to
Fort
Campbell
I'm,
look
at
these
big
strapping
special
force,
guys
and
there's.
There's
120
130
different
agencies
there
trying
to
sell
themselves
to
get
these
military
folks
that
are
a
Fant,
fantastic
pool.
T
I've
got
a
picture
of
us
with
six
well
with
three
different
law
enforcement
agencies:
six
officers,
our
staff
person,
that's
oversees.
The
program
we
have
one
military
person
there
next
to
is
is
Walmart
truck
driving.
They
pay
$110,000.
They
had
over
30
people
lined
up
right
there,
the
other
side
to
it
was
computer
computer,
AED
design.
Two
dozen
people
lined
up
and
I'm
asking
these
guys
and
I'm
I'm
putting
them
on
the
spot.
You
all
would
make
great
police
officers
look
at
you
and,
and
they
they
tell
me
man,
there's
no
money
in
that.
T
A
Options
representative
Johnson
promised
this
would
take
30
seconds.
S
Yes,
sir
I
just
actually
received
a
text
message
from
a
constituent
who's
watching
the
meeting
right
now
and
he
suggested
that
we
not
forget
one
other
organization
and
that's
the
Coast
Guard.
S
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
parallel
trainings
there
as
well.
So
as
you
think
about
these
things,
if
you
would
just
make
sure
to
consider
them
as
well
appreciate.
A
If
y'all
hang
around.
A
We're
going
to
we
got
another
group
coming
in
and
if
they've
got
questions
or
got
any
suggestions,
please
and
then
you
all
as
well,
Kyle
and
and
Delan.
So
thank
you
all
right.
Let's
move
to
the
Kentucky
Drug
Task
Force
update.
M
You
I
don't
want
to
cut
into
your
time.
I
know.
Time
is
short,
but
I
I
personally
asked
this
group
to
to
come
before
this
committee.
I
have
spent
time
with
the
Harden
County
drug
task
force
unit
in
my
district
and
I've
have
spoken
in
depth
with
their
personnel
and
I
can
tell
you
folks.
We
are
under
siege.
M
This
is
critical.
What
they
are
about
to
talk
about
today
and
the
funding
that
they
that
is
needed
to
protect
our
children
from
fenel
and
the
other
drugs
that
are
coming
into
the
Commonwealth
in
waves.
Just
today,
Lexington
has
made
national
news
as
one
of
the
hot
spots
for
distribution
and
along
our
corridors
of
I65
and
I75
from
Louisville
to
Lexington.
M
It
is
upon
us,
it
is
here
it
is
killing
our
kids,
so
iore,
you
as
committee
members
here
to
give
them
your
full
attention
and
to
consider
the
funding
that
they
will
request
and
the
funding
that
they
will
discuss
more
important
importantly,
I
want
to
point
out
that
they
have
lost
funding.
They've
lost
funding
from
our
federal
government
from
Grants
and
just
like
sro's
they're
underman,
any
help
that
we
can
give
this
group
and
the
other
11
drug
task
force
across
the
Commonwealth
is
critical.
M
O
C
Policy
I'm
Tommy,
loving,
I'm,
retired
Kentucky,
State
Police,
been
director
of
the
Bowling
Green
waren
County
drug
task
force
for
25
years.
I
see
my
senator
up
there
good
friend
and
I'm.
Also
the
executive
director
for
the
Kentucky
narcotic
Officers
Association
that
represents
400
drug
enforcement
officers
across
the.
U
Commonwealth
I'm
Ron
Ard
I'm,
the
director
of
the
greater
Harden
County
Narcotics
task
force.
I,
have
I
guess
going
on
about
my
close
to
40
years
in
law
enforcement,
I
also
retired,
from
the
Kentucky
State
Police
in
2005,
and
have
been
the
director
for
greater
hard
County.
Since.
O
2011
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
committee
Edward
burn,
was
a
22-year-old
police
officer
in
New
York
City
s
parked
in
his
patrol
car
outside
of
a
cooperating
witness's
house
when
he
was
distracted
by
some
people
on
the
passenger
side
of
his
car.
While
he
was
being
killed
and
shot
in
the
head
in
the
driver's
seat
where
he
was.
This
happened
in
1988,
then
Governor,
H,
I'm.
Sorry
too
many
Governors.
O
On
my
mind,
president
H
George
HW
Bush
wanted
to
create
a
grant
funding
opportunity
for
drug
enforcement
across
the
United
States
and
the
Edward
J
burn
fund
was
created.
O
One
of
the
allowable
expenses
in
that
is
multi-jurisdictional
drug
task
forces
they're
important
because
they
allow
smaller
departments
and
most
of
our
police
departments
in
Kentucky
are
15
people
or
less,
but
it
allows
these
smaller
departments
to
pull
their
resources
so
for
for,
like
in
On's
case
City,
the
Elizabeth
toown
Police
Department
and
the
Harden
County
Sheriff's
department
and
the
Bargetown
police
department
and
the
Nelson
County
Sheriff
they'
all
add
a
give
a
person
or
two
and
multiplies
their
force
and
they
can
go
out
and
do
proactive
drug
investigations.
O
A
great
many
of
these
smaller
police
departments
and
Sheriff's
departments
would
have
no
ability
to
do
proactive
drug
investigations.
Were
it
not
for
this
opportunity
to
work
together.
So
I
I've
been
here
19
years
and
worked
for
six
different
secretaries
of
the
Justice
cabinet,
and
everyone
has
made
this
program
a
priority.
As
these
federal
dollars
come
in
multi-jurisdictional
direct
task
forces
take
the
line
share.
For
example,
in
this
year
2023
the
state
received
$2.4
million
from
this
grant
fund
and
71%
of
that
goes
to
drug
task
forces.
O
The
the
money
we
receive
is
based
on
a
formula
of
part,
one
crimes
and
population,
so
each
state
gets
a
little
bit
different.
In
2022
we
had
2.2
million
and
77%
%
went
to
drug
task
forces.
In
21
we
had
2.1
million
and
80%
went
to
drug
task
force.
So
it's
been
a
priority
for
as
many
years
as
I've
been
around,
but
it
has
never
increased
significantly
in
the
when
I
first
started
in
19
or
2004,
the
state
would
receive
$89
million.
Now,
as
you
can
see,
we're
hovering
around
2
million.
O
We
were
lucky
to
get
up
to
2.4
this
year.
Congress
funds
this
at
around
500
million,
but
then
they
takes
the
Appropriations
from
it
to
fund
different
projects.
So
what's
left
to
disseminate
to
States
is
much
less
than
what
was
actually
appropriated
in
the
budget
I'm
going
to
stop
there
and
turn
it
over
to
to
these
two
gentlemen
that
spend
a
lot
more
time
in
drug
enforcement
than
I
have
to
talk
about
some
of
their
needs
and
and
what
what
we
need
help.
U
Now
I'll
see
if
I
can
get
this
PowerPoint
I
put
a
little
PowerPoint
together
to
work
on
the.
If
everybody
can
see
that
on
on
the
map,
what's
colored
in
green,
when
we
our
task
force,
began
in
1995,
we
covered
Harden,
County,
Grayson,
County
and
Nelson
County
with
those
Three
Counties
since
1995
2003.
We
currently
cover
mainly
Seven
Counties
Breen
Ridge
bullet
Grayson,
Harden,
Hart,
laru
and
Nelson
County.
We
have
agreements
with
uus
with
me,
County,
which,
unfortunately,
we
missed
coloring,
that
on
the
map
Washington
and
Green
County.
U
Our
cases
sometimes
takes
us
on
a
case-by
casee
basis
over
in
the
Maran
County,
which
we
get
with
the
sheriff
and
we're
able
to
work
together
on
that.
But
that's
our
primary
area
that
we
that
we
cover
our
total
population
out
of
the
Seven
Counties
is
a
little
over
325,000
people
right
now
in
'
95
when
we
started.
U
This
is
a
list
of
the
the
Departments
that
made
up
our
task
force
that
came
together
from
Bargetown
eTown,
Harden,
County,
State,
Police,
litfield,
Nelson,
County
and
rackliff,
which
gave
us
seven
agents
for
seven
agencies
in
2023.
We
currently
have
13
agents
and
myself
makes
14
U
I'm
sworn
in
through
the
city
of
Elizabeth
Town.
U
We
have
one
from
the
Breen
Ridge
County
Sheriff's
Office,
one
from
bullet,
counting
myself,
four
from
Elizabeth
Town
Police
Department,
one
from
Hart
County,
one
from
the
state
police,
one
from
Lichfield
one
or
two
from
Nelson
County
Sheriff's
Office,
two
from
Radcliffe
police
department
and
one
from
shephardsville.
So
our
Manpower
has
grown
U
you'll
notice.
Harden
county
is
not
on
there
in
2023,
the
guy
they
had
left
and
currently
like
the
prior
topic,
they're
scratching
their
heads
trying
to
get
school
resource
officers,
so
they
haven't
been
able
to
back
fill
that
spot
either.
U
Power,
as
Senator
Denine
said,
there's
11
multi-jurisdictional
task
forces.
That's
that's
the
the
group
of
them
there,
I
won't
read
them
all,
but
but
everyone
is
unique
in
their
self
and
and
are
different.
Some
may
be
just
one
or
two
counties
like
and
we
may
be:
Seven
Counties.
The
state
police
is
kind
of
made
up
of
of
different
task
forces
out
of
Desy,
East
and
and
Desi
West,
where
they
have
Task
Force
officers
from
other
sheriff's
department
or
PDS
working
for
them.
U
The
funding
this
next
slide
shows
the
Jag
funding
for
this
current
year.
That
will
start
October
1st,
as
you'll
see
the
11
task
forces
on
there,
plus
the
other
monies,
where
some
of
the
money
is
going
to,
such
as
like
city
of
Hodgenville,
Georgetown,
Goodwill
Industry,
so
that
that's
a
breakdown
of
the
money,
a
little
over
$2.1
million
and
award
funding.
U
Here's
our
operating
expenses-
and
we
just
kind
of
threw
this
in
here
and
to
just
show
the
difference
in
where
we
are
now
to
where
we
was
from
22
years
ago,
with
inflation
at
about
2
and
a
half%
a
year
it
equals
out
to
about
78%
inflation.
Since
2000
and
our
auto
insurance,
we
used
to
pay
$2,800
a
year
for
the
task
force
insurance
vehicles.
Last
year,
2022
is
13,000,
you'll
see
cell
phones
have
jumped
up.
We
have
more
manpower,
more
more
phones,
confidential
funds.
If
back
in
2000
it
was
budgeted
$35,000
for
it.
U
We
used
$7,300
out
of
forfeiture
money
to
cover
that
this
last
year,
plus
Haida
are.
We
have
two
counties
that
are
Haida
counties,
Appalachia,
Haida,
high
and
density
truck
trafficking
areas,
which
was
Nelson
and
Harden
County
Bullock
County
just
got
added
October
1st
on
on
that
stuff
and
they
provided
US
$
34,36
of
buy
money.
So
if,
if
you
look
add
that
in
there
it
puts
us
over
41,000
on
buy
money
for
confidential
funds,
fuel
cost
is
one
thing:
that's
killing
us.
In
2000
200
we
spent
a
little
over
$113,000
in
fuel.
2022
was
57,000.
U
Like
I
said
we
got
more
area
recover
and
more
people,
so
you
know,
and
fuel
prices
have
gone
up,
you
know
more
than
doubled,
so
it
that's,
that's
really
bad
and
the
rest
of
them.
You
know:
rent
overtime,
expenses,
storage
for
nonsensitive
evidence
and
and
travel
and
training.
Our
travel
training
looks
kind
of
high,
but
it's
also
came
appala
hadida.
They
they
send
us
to
training
two
two
to
three
different
times
a
year
different
places,
our
Commonwealth
attorney's
office
through
pack,
part
of
the
money
they
get
out
of
forfeiture
money.
U
They
will
give
us
towards
training.
So
a
lot
of
that
training.
You
know
we're
we're
just
get
able
to
get
money
from
that
or
forfeitures
to
cover
those
things,
so
everything
has
gone
up
and
that
just
kind
of
gives
you
the
the
gist
on
that
the
grants
there's
just
kind
of
a
breakdown
of
our
grants
from
when
we
started
in
1995
was
156,000.
We
put
that
down
in
fiveyear
increments,
which
I
think
left
out
our
highest
of
all
time,
which
was
288,000,
but
it
it
shows
you
it
went
from
there
and
to
2023.
U
The
one
we
just
got
awarded
is
about
almost
$100,000
less
than
what
it
was
at
the
highest
and
which
you
know
the
population
we
cover
in
the
area
is
a
whole
lot
bigger
next
on
the
slide.
Here
is
our
cases
and
arrest
just
to
kind
of
give
you
a
breakdown.
1996
was
the
first
full
year
after
our
task
force
began.
They
had
252
cases
with
123
arrests
for
those
seven,
seven
agencies
and
seven
individuals
from
those
Three
Counties
arrest
and
cases
have
climbed
or
cases.
U
Even
during,
like
2020
the
coid
year,
our
cases
was
still
high.
We
were
still
working.
Our
arrests
were
down
a
lot,
but
that
was
also
due
to
Grand
jurries,
not
not
being
in
session.
You
know
the
courts
being
very
limited,
so
we
a
lot
of
those
cases,
got
continued
on
until
2021
in
2022,
when
those
arrests
were
made.
Last
year
we
had
1,225
criminal
cases
with
984
criminal
arrests.
Drug
seized
this.
U
These
are
in
grams
and
I
can
kind
of
touch
base
and
and
break
that
down
just
a
little
bit
for
you,
but
just
heroin
is
the
very
top
one.
We
had
225
gram
of
heroin
in
20
22,
which
was
our
high
year,
which
is
just
a
little
bit
under
a
half
a
pound
of
heroin
2023
for
the
first
6
months
is
9
G,
but
most
of
what
we
are
seeing
now
is
fenel
going
to
fentel
in
2022.
U
We
we
see
1669
G,
that's
about
3.6
pounds
of
fentanyl,
which,
if
you
break
it
down
into
pills,
it's
a
little
over
8,500
fentanyl
pills.
We
kind
of
we
used
to
weigh
or
we
used
to
count
out
the
pills,
and
then
we
decided
we
would
just
weigh
the
pills
and
go
by
an
estimated
weight
instead
of
actually
trying
to
sort
through
those
pills
with
fentel
Is
A
Dangerous
Drug
as
it
is
in
the
powder,
so
that
that's
a
very
modest
estimate
on
that.
U
First
6
months
of
the
year,
January
through
June,
right
at
1,200,
gam
of
fenel,
which
is
three
2.6,
PBS
or
6,000
pills,
and
then
the
the
next
one
down.
We
never
did
see
fenel
that
we
was
able
to
keep
track
of
until
2022.
That's
when
we
really
got
hit
with
it.
Cocaine
is
a
on
the
uptake.
Also,
if
you
look
at
our
cocaine
for
the
last
23
years
years,
in
2020,
we
had
400
gr
of
cocaine,
which
is
just
under
a
pound.
U
2022
was
35,
3500
gram,
which
is
about
7.8
PBS
of
cocaine
and
in
the
first
6
months
of
this
year,
we've
almost
got
that
much
again
3400
gram,
which
is
a
like
7.7
pounds
of
cocaine.
The
next
slide
is
a
actually
in
pounds.
It
says
at
the
bottom
grams,
but
that
was
a
type
on
our
part.
I
noticed
that
last
night
our
meth
meth
has
gone
through
the
roof.
The
as
the
borders
become
more
open.
The
crystal
meth
by
the
cartels
are
just
like
the
fenel.
U
It's
it's
just
pouring
in
just
2022
was
our
high
with
a
right
at
43
PBS
of
meth
this
year.
The
first
six
months
is
right
at
24
PBS
of
meth
marijuana,
which
is
a
not
a
popular
topic
to
talk
about
of
season
more
nowadays,
but
in
20
20
we
had
about
108
lb.
Last
year
we
had
4,600
lb
4,000
of
that
was
coming
from
Canada,
going
to
Nelson
County
on
a
semi
TR,
and
then
this
year
the
first
six
months
has
been
about
55
pounds
of
meth.
U
But
that's
the
drugs
we're
seeing
the
uptick
is
in
meth
and
fenel
meth
is
dirt
cheap.
It's
cheaper
than
marijuana.
You
can
buy
an
ounce
of
meth
in
ewn
in
Harden
County
for
$250.
An
ounce
marijuana
is
costing
you
$300
$400
an
ounce,
so
the
purity
of
it
is
so
high
and
it's
so
cheap.
You
know
it's
ravaging
in
our
community
and
fentel
with
overdoses
is
the
same
way
and
then
on.
On
another
note,
the
overdose
deaths
investigations.
The
way
we
like
to
try
to
work.
U
Those
is
work
with
our
local
Department's
detectives,
who's,
working,
the
death
investigations
and
we'll
bring
the
drug
side
in
with
them.
We
we'll
use
our
Intel
to
download
phones
and
try
to
find
the
suppliers
to
to
work
on
overdo
death
investigations
and
charges
there
and
I'll
leave
it.
Give
you
Tommy
here
to
carry
on.
C
And
I
could
give
you
very
similar
numbers
for
the
Boling
green
Warren
County
drug
test
Force,
but
for
time
we
won't
for
you
all.
We
won't
won't
do
that,
but
it's
very
similar.
What
what
we
deal
with
and
across
the
state
on
a
a
more
positive
note,
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
a
couple
of
things:
the
as
a
old
retired,
KSP
guy.
C
The
raise
that
you
all
gave
the
state
police
last
year
was
very
beneficial
in
stopping
the
bleeding
there
and
I'm,
just
speaking
as
a
retiree,
but
it
also
had
a
spin-off
effect
that
many
of
the
local
agencies
have
had
to
raise
their
salary
and
that's
helping
on
the
recruiting
side
of
the
house,
not
everywhere,
but
at
least
in
cities
that
can
do
that,
and
the
other
thing
I
want
to.
Thank
you
for
is
for
the
major
fentel
traffickers
is
the
85
uh%
of
the
time
they
have
to
serve
before
they
get
out
of
prison.
C
C
The
first
year
I
came
to
the
drug
task
force
a
burn
Jag
money,
which
was
basically
75%
of
our
operating
budget.
We
received
181
,000.
Today
we
receive
$
141,000,
but
let
me
back
up
to
the
181,
we're
so
lucky
to
have
an
iPhone
that
we
can
crunch
numbers
with
and
whatnot,
but
the
inflation
rate
for
that
the
equivalent
today
of
81,000
is
$344,000,
and
if
that
was
75%
of
our
budget,
then
we'd
be
in
much
better
shape.
C
Every
task
force
has
different
needs,
and
certainly,
as
representative
talked
about
summer
technology,
some
of
us
need
to
buy
gas.
Some
of
us
need
to
buy
cars
because
everything
is
skyrocketed,
as
everyone
in
the
room
knows.
One
thing
we've
always
talked
about.
As
the
colonel
said,
we
have
a
three-legged
stool.
That
we've
touted
for
years
is
treatment.
Prevention
and
enforcement
treat
treatment
and
prevention
were
underfunded
at
one
time
now.
C
They're
in
much
better
shape
than
we
are,
we've
kind
of
been
left
behind
in
that
area,
they
needed
what
they
got
but
and
still
do,
but
also
we
need
a
little
bump
to
help
us
keep
doing
what
we're
doing.
C
I
think,
let's
see
the
OD
training.
We've
worked
with
that
with
Kentucky
narcotic
officer
Association.
We
have
a
three-day
training
conference
once
a
year
and
bring
people
in
from
across
the
state.
We
just
had
it
in
Lexington
with
almost
400
attending
and
we
have
very
specialized
training
opportunities
that
are
docjt
accredited
for
the
officers
to
pick
and
attend.
I'd
say
my
task
force.
The
only
other
thing
I'll
touch
on
there
is
we're
made
up
of
Bowling
Green
police,
Kentucky,
State,
Police,
Sheriff's,
Office,
Western,
Kentucky,
University,
Police,
ATF
and
HSI.
C
So
we
have
a
federal
presence
and
between
the
federal
and
state
police
presence
that
allows
us
to
go
anywhere
in
our
region
that
we
need
to
get
out
of,
but
I
think
that's
the
major
points.
I
want
to
make.
Certainly
we'll
all
entertain
any
questions,
and
we
don't
want
to
belabor
the
point,
but
we
do
need
some
financial
help.
M
Thank
you
all
for
coming,
not
every
one
of
your
task
force.
The
11,
as
you
mentioned,
has
the
technology
that
say
the
Harden
County
drug
task
force
has
in
their
surveillance
capabilities
of
these
drug
dealers
and
I,
know
we're
short
handed
when
it
comes
to
Personnel.
I
would
like
to
get
with
you
after
this
meeting,
to
discuss
the
needed
technology
in
any
of
The
Other
Drug
Task
Force
units
that
do
not
have
the
same
capabilities
that
the
Harden
County
drug
task
force
does
now.
M
I
do
understand
that
that
drug
task
force
in
Harden
county
has
maybe
a
a
a
much
larger
area
to
cover
and
their
needs
may
be
different
than
some
of
the
others,
but
having
the
technology
available
to
our
officers
and
included
in
that
is
their
radio
communication
A's
capabilities
that
they
currently
are
on
SE
several
different
bandwidths,
several
different
agencies.
M
M
Confidential
money,
expenditures
on
on
buys
and
things
of
that
nature
to
get
these
arrest
that
we
need.
My
understanding
is,
is
that
we've
lost
funding
there
and
I
believe
it
is
very
important
for
us,
as
a
general
assembly
to
Step
Up
and
address
this
issue.
If
we
really
want
to
tackle
the
fentel
and
the
poison
that's
coming
into
the
Commonwealth,
it
starts
with
the
people
that
are
on
the
front
line
that
are
doing
the
investigations
that
are
out
there
working,
and
that
is
our
drug
task
force
units.
M
They
are
on
the
front
lines
of
protecting
our
communities
and
I
applaud.
All
of
our
local
law
enforcement
agencies
that
are
participating
in
these
drug
task
force
and
I
applaud
all
of
your
efforts
through
the
years
to
make
this
a
priority.
I
believe
it
is
time
for
us
to
make
a
priority
as
well
and
I
want
you
to
know
that
I
fully
support
those
efforts
and
I
look
forward
to
those
conversations
to
increase
the
necessary
funding
to
make
sure
we
have
the
Manpower
the
technology
and
anything
else.
M
K
Wilson,
thank
you
Mr
chairman
and,
of
course,
the
head
of
our
drug
task
force
in
Bowling.
Green
is
Tommy,
loving
Tommy.
It's
great
to
see
you
here
today.
You've
done
an
incredible
job
down
there.
Of
course,
I
think
we
have
a
great
Sheriff's
Department
police
department,
but
they
cannot
do
what
you
guys
do
working
together
in
agency
task
force
like
you
have,
and
and
over
the
years
you
guys
have
just
done
so
much
to
really
rid
our
communities
of
this.
K
But
I
know
a
lot
more
needs
to
be
done,
and
my
question
to
you
guys
is:
we
need
to
know
a
figure
that
you
I'm
sure
you
have
a
collective
figure
that
is
needed
for
all
the
11
put
together
from
the
state,
because
we
are
in
a
position
now
now
that
we
have
to
be
putting
in
our
budget
request
into
for
anr
the
Appropriations
Revenue
committee,
because
we'll
be
working
on
the
budget
and
already
are
working
probably
on
things,
but
won't
know
exactly
how
much
money
we
have
to
work
with
until
closer
to
the
end
of
the
year
when
we
get
those
figures
as
far
as
that's
concerned,
but
I
think
the
work
that
you
guys
do
is
amazing.
K
K
Both
of
them
from
overdoses,
with
fentel,
lace,
drugs
and
I,
just
can't
imagine
losing
one.
You
know
when
you
have
that
happen,
and
we
personally
know
another
family
out
of
Glasco.
That's
lost
a
son
same
thing,
you
know
just
one
pill
laced
with
fentol
and
it
killed
him
so
I
agree.
This
is
something
that
needs
to
be
taken
care
of,
and
so
I'd
appreciate
that
if
you
guys
could
get
us
that
figure.
Thank
you.
C
O
C
That
and
and
I
guess,
while
we're
asking,
if,
if
you
all
see
fit
to
give
us
some
State
funding,
if
that
could
be
run
through
Van's
office
I
think
would
be
really
good.
With
Van's
background
in
law
enforcement,
he
can
kind
of
sort
through
things
and
he
would
have
a
really
good
handle
on
how
to
distribute
These
funds.
I
hate
to
talk
that
nice
about
him
here,
but
he
he's
always
been
our.
A
Gentlemen,
thank
you,
there's
no
more
questions
and
it's
been
very
informative.
Today
we've
got
stick
around
or
if
we've
got
the
other
Bunch
that
was
here
on
the
SR.
So
some
of
us
have
to
go
to
another
meeting
so
we'll
we'll.
If
I
can
get
a
motion.