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B
B
B
Chairman
this
is
representative
hale,
I'm
joined
by
remote
today.
A
Okay
good
to
see
you
representative,
thank
you.
Okay,
chairman
yeah,.
C
Lawrence,
I'm
in
district
remotely.
A
H
It
helps
if
I
turn
it
on
good
afternoon.
My
name
is
julie,
kirkpatrick,
I'm
the
president
of
media
and
ky,
which
is
northern
kentucky
tourism,
and
I
am
here
today
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
airbnb
and
vrbo
in
this
state.
I
really
appreciate
you
allowing
us
time
today
to
do
a
little
bit
of
education,
talk
a
little
bit
about
a
problem
that
exists
in
this
state.
H
I
am
also
proud
member
of
the
kentucky
association
of
convention
and
visitors
bureaus,
and
I
think
they're
going
to
speak
after
me,
but
I'm
also
a
traveler,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
people
in
this
room
are
travelers
as
well
and
when
we
travel,
we
look
for
unique
destinations
to
visit.
We
look
for
unique
ways
to
stay
in
the
state
of
kentucky.
We
have
a
lot
of
wonderful
hotels.
We
have
a
lot
of
wonderful
state
parks.
H
So,
if
you
don't
know
the
shared
economy,
industry
is
one
where
an
individual
shares,
maybe
their
home,
an
apartment,
a
room
in
their
house,
maybe
their
car,
and
they
gain
a
financial
benefit
from
that
maybe
you've
taken
a
vacation
in
the
past
and
you've
rented
a
vacation
home.
Maybe
you've
used
airbnb
in
vrbo.
H
You
know
when
this
started.
We
thought
it
was
a
bit
of
a
disruption
just
like
we
didn't
think
people
were
going
to
want
to
ride
around
in
people's
cars.
Well,
we
got
proved
wrong.
Uber
and
lyft
are
very,
very
popular.
Today
so
you
know
they're
mainstream
and
they
are
big
big
economic
generators
in
the
state
of
kentucky.
I
have
data
that
shows
through
the
first
nine
months
of
this
year
january,
through
september,
157
million
dollars
worth
of
transactions
happened
in
airbnb
and
vrbo's.
H
It's
big
business.
They
have
big
revenue,
share
vrbo,
also
shelves
a
lot
of
their
accommodations
on
expedia.
So
if
you
are
looking
for
somewhere
to
stay
in
the
state
of
kentucky
and
you're
looking
on
expedia,
you
will
see
these
vrbo
rentals.
The
reason
that
I'm
here
today
is
to
talk
about
the
inequality
with
these
platforms
and
their
obligation
to
pay
the
transient
occupancy
tax
in
the
state.
H
H
Now
the
property
owners
absolutely
pay
their
property
taxes
on
these
houses
and
apartments
and
rooms
to
the
to
municipality
where
they
live,
and
I
believe
the
property
owners
want
to
be
in
compliance
with
paying
these
taxes.
These
are
not
new
taxes,
they
are
on
the
books
in
every
county
and
every
city
in
the
commonwealth
of
kentucky,
but
I
believe
the
responsibility
is
on
these
platforms
to
ensure
that
they
are
remitting
the
taxes
that
are
due
to
the
tourism
organizations.
H
H
They
had
agreements
in
nashville,
they
had
agreements
in
gatlinburg,
but
there
were
airbnbs
all
over
the
state
of
tennessee
and
airbnb
and
vrbo
had
no
interest
in
doing
one-off
agreements.
Tennessee
created
legislation
in
2020
that
centralized
the
collection
of
these
taxes
across
the
entire
state
and
remitted
those
to
the
destination.
I
know
it's
not
a
perfect
model.
I
know
there
are
some
problems
with
centralized
collection,
but
it
is
a
smart
way
for
us
to
level
the
playing
field.
H
H
A
lot
of
these
are
small
organizations,
one
person,
two
person,
three
persons-
they
don't
have
time
and
maybe
don't
even
have
the
knowledge
to
have
a
full
list
and
work
with
homeowners
to
ensure.
I
don't
think
the
cities
have
the
time
and
the
counties
have
the
time,
but
the
platforms
are
being
paid.
They
should
be
held
accountable
for
this.
H
H
I
also
know
that
we
in
tourism,
we
live
our
state
motto.
We
are
united,
we
stand
divided,
we
fall
what's
good,
for
us
is
good
for
everyone
across
the
state
of
kentucky,
as
we
work
to
repair
this
industry
after
what
covett
has
done
for
it,
northern
kentucky
we've
lost
700
million
dollars
during
covet
of
economic
impact,
and
we
work
every
day
to
restore
that
impact.
H
We
also
work
to
restore
the
jobs.
We've
lost
five
thousand
jobs
in
northern
kentucky.
That
is
what
keeps
me
up
at
night.
Getting
people
back
to
work.
We
want
to
not
just
recover
from
where
we
were
when
covid
started.
We
want
to
recover
to
where
we
should
be
once
covet
is
over.
We
need
marketing
funds
to
do
this.
H
I
did
some
basic
research
on
airbnb
in
the
state
of
kentucky
with
a
company
called
air
dna.
I
looked
at
a
couple
of
destinations
that
don't
receive
their
fair
share
and
I
want
to
share
some
of
those
stories
with
you
today.
Directly
to
the
south
of
northern
kentucky
is
a
wonderful
town
called
williamstown.
H
The
ark
encounter
is
based
in
williamstown
and,
if
you
know
anything
about
the
ark
encounter
when
it
opened
in
2017,
it
started
to
bring
in
hundreds
of
thousands
of
visitors
to
our
state.
Williamstown
went
from
zero
airbnbs
to
75
airbnbs
that
are
in
operation
in
just
williamstown.
Today
I
talked
to
my
good
friend
jamie
baker,
who
runs
tourism
in
grant
county.
H
H
That
would
be
an
increase
to
their
marketing
budget
of
about
a
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
dollars
that
would
help
them
bring
in
even
more
visitors.
As
we
do
a
better
and
more
effective
job
in
marketing
and
bringing
in
new
visitors.
I
can
tell
you
these
offerings
are
going
to
continue
to
grow
bardstown
kentucky
with
my
good
friend
samantha
brady,
who
runs
tourism.
There
has
seen
a
103
percent
increase
in
airbnbs
in
that
destination.
H
I've
got
data
from
paducah
from
frankfurt
right
here
in
the
capital,
from
owensboro
pikeville
across
the
state
of
kentucky.
All
of
these
are
continuing
to
grow
now.
I
do
also
want
you
to
know.
I
spent
20
years
in
the
hotel
industry
and
I
believe
that
every
hotel
absolutely
pays
the
occupancy
taxes
that
they
collect
from
the
visitors.
I
believe
that
airbnb
and
vrbo
should
also
do
that
in
the
state
of
kentucky.
H
H
I
do
believe
that
these
are
good
techs.
These
are
good
technology
platforms.
They
continue
to
bring
in
new
visitors.
I
even
look
at
somewhere
like
this.
Like
louisville,
my
good
friend
cleo
battle.
Louisville
is
hosting
one
of
the
biggest
trade
shows
that
they've
hosted
since
before
covid
it's
bringing
in
more
than
four
thousand
visitors
that
fills
up
a
lot
of
hotel
rooms.
H
Would
that
push
out
visitors
that
wouldn't
normally
visit
louisville
if
those
airbnbs
were
not
available
and
it's
also
pushing
visitors
into
shelbyville
into
oldham
county,
it's
keeping
them
here
longer.
So
I
do
believe
that
these
are
good
platforms
and
I'm
happy
that
we
are
able
to
bring
more
and
more
visitors
into
the
state.
H
Again,
we
have
shared
the
tennessee
legislation
with
chairman
schroeder.
We
are
as
an
industry,
going
to
ask
our
legislators
to
help
us
fix
this
problem
with
this
tennessee
model
and
I'm
happy
to
share
this
legislation
with
anyone
that
would
want
to
see
it.
As
we
ask
you
to
help
us
build
back.
This
industry
and
above
all,
thank
you
for
what
you
do.
Thank
you
for
how
you've
stepped
in
to
help
us
during
this
time,
and
please
help
us
bring
more
visitors
to
the
state
of
kentucky.
H
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
julie
for
being
here
today.
I
was
so
glad
to
see
this
on
our
agenda
today.
I
have
had
the
tourism
commissions
in
my
district,
bring
this
to
me
for
the
last
several
years.
So
I
sincerely
appreciate
you
bringing
it
up,
and
just
as
you
mentioned,
it
is
ours
in
our
district
are
a
volunteer
board.
Anyway,
they
don't
have
the
extra
time
to
go
out
and
try
to
research
if
there
are
new
residences
facilities
that
are
coming
in
and
out
of
this
process.
F
So
I
think
a
centralized
way
of
collecting
a
tax
that
is
already
due
makes
makes
perfect
sense.
If
you
could
forward
that
bill
draft
to
me,
I
can
give
you
my
email
address
that
that
would
be
wonderful.
I
looked
over
I'd
like
to
look
over
the
exact
language,
the
150
million
dollars
that
you
mentioned
for
2021
I
just
that
is
kentucky
only
that's.
That
is
only
the
state
of
kentucky
okay.
F
A
Thank
you,
coach
air
king,
your
question
just
for
my
own
edification,
I
mean.
H
A
You
mentioned
that
you
know,
and
you
do
hear
this
from
folks.
You
know
we
pay
our
property
taxes
to
the
city
and
the
communities
that
we
live
in.
Do
hotels,
also
pay
a
property
tax
as
well.
H
A
Okay,
well,
that's
that's
good
to
know.
We
have
a
question
from
representative
beckler.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
julie.
I
would
assume
that
the
owners
of
these
airbnb
etc
places
pay
income
tax.
Is
that
correct.
B
Yeah,
I
would
be
very
interested
in
seeing
the
income
tax
that
they
pay
versus
what
you're
suggesting.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,.
A
Okay,
anyone
else,
okay,
I
don't
think
we
have
any
further
questions.
Thank
you
very
much.
Miss
kirkpatrick.
A
Okay:
next
we
have
the
kentucky
association
of
convention
and
visitors
bureau.
Please
approach
the
the
table
and
turn
your
microphones
on
before
you
begin.
I
I
also
have
some
good
tourism
friends
with
me
to
my
right.
I
have
vice
president
jeanette
marsden.
She
is
also
the
executive
director
at
lake
cumberland
and
then
over
here
to
my
other
side,
is
executive
director,
brandon
pennington
from
harlan,
and
what
I'm
going
to
each
have
them.
Do
I've,
given
you
a
piece
of
paper,
but
this
is
really
the
focus
of
this
piece
of
paper
is
just
nuts
and
bolts
to
background
of
what's
happening
to
us
right
now,
and
so
I'm
not
really
going
to
focus
what's
on
here.
I
What
I
really
want
to
focus
on
is
sharing
with
you,
the
stories
and
the
situations
that
many
of
us
are
finding
ourselves
in.
As
you
all
know,
because
you
all
represent
different
parts
of
kentucky.
Many
of
us,
while
all
in
our
cvbs,
we
have
different
things
that
we
need
to
focus
on
and
we
are
of
different
sizes.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
struggling
with
funding
problems,
we're
struggling
being
able
to
move
forward.
I
C
Absolutely
thank
you
again
for
having
us
here
today.
My
name
is
brandon
pennington
with
harlan
tourism,
and
today
I
wanted
to
just
kind
of
just
bring
a
little
bit
of
information
about
what
is
going
on
in
southeastern
kentucky,
specifically,
I've
reached
out
to
some
of
my
peers
within
the
industry
and
in
our
area,
and
the
situation
is
kind
of
similar
across
the
board
in
terms
of
southeastern
kentucky.
We
we
appear
to
be
doing
well.
A
lot
of
our
communities
are
smaller.
C
Therefore,
we
have
restaurant
tax
and
so
we've
kind
of
had
a
little
bit
of
safety
net
through
covid.
But
what
that
doesn't?
What
that
story
doesn't
show
is
that
during
the
first
part
of
covenant
shutdowns
during
2020,
that
many
of
our
many
of
our
peers
had
to
dip
into
the
reserves
just
to
make
it
through
2020.
C
2021
lodging
is,
is
going
up
and
specifically
for
that
reasoning
is
because
we
have
visitors.
We
have
a
huge
influx
of
visitors
wanting
to
go
to
places
where
they
can
be
socially
distant
and
safe,
and
so
we've
seen
a
huge
increase
of
visitors
to
our
area.
C
One
of
my
industry,
peers
from
corbin
maggie
manhalland,
was
telling
me
that
she
has
had
she
has
such
an
influx
of
visitors
that
she
cannot
keep
brochures
on
the
shelves
but
where
she
had
to
dip
into
her
reserves.
She
doesn't
have
money
to
reprint
her
birth
shares
right
now.
Now
that
that's
a
great
problem
to
have
is
that
we
have
all
those
visitors,
but
it's
a
terrible
problem
to
have
that
we
can't
reprint
the
brochures
and
have
them
up
to
date.
C
C
One
of
the
things
that
I've
kind
of
realized,
after
speaking
with
john
grace
in
bell
county,
is
that
we
have
boone's
ridge
wildlife
center,
which
I'm
sure
that
many
of
the
community
is
aware
of
opening
in
late
or
I'm
sorry,
early
2023,
and
this
is
about
a
40
million
project.
That's
going
to
change
the
entire
region
of
southeastern
kentucky,
but
the
ancillary,
the
ancillary
support
that
we
would
typically
receive
for
something
like
that
for
all
of
our
small
communities
to
promote
it.
C
We
don't
have
the
funding
to
do
that
right
now,
but
I
can
tell
you
who
does
have
funding
to
do
that
right
now.
There
are
small
communities
right
outside
of
bell
county
in
tennessee
that
will
be
receiving
arpa
funds,
they'll
be
receiving
that
money
and
they'll
be
receiving
the
economic
impact,
because
they'll
have
the
money
to
promote
it,
to
put
the
signage
up
to
retract
visitors
to
their
area,
and
we
don't
want
to
see
that
we
don't
want
to
see
those
visitors
go
to
tennessee.
C
We
want
to
keep
them
here
in
kentucky,
especially
southeastern
kentucky.
I
was
talking
over
lunch
about
it,
and
you
know
it's
one
of
those
things
that
if
you
imagine
opening
up
the
arc
encounter
but
not
having
the
support
that
the
small
cbb's
around
it
have
been
have
been
able
to
do
to
promote
it.
That
would
be
the
same
situation
that
would
be
going
on
with
boone's
ridge
in
2023.
C
and,
of
course,
boone's
ridge.
I
say
that
it's
going
to
change
our
region
and
it
absolutely
will
just
to
throw
some
some
figures
about
it:
we're
expecting
990
000
visitors
with
boone
ridge.
It's
going
to
be
a
202
million
economic
impact
for
the
region.
It's
supposed
to
spark
3
300
new
jobs.
G
Greetings
from
southern
kentucky,
I
am
from
russell
county
lake
cumberland
tourist
commission,
but
I'm
speaking
for
all
of
southern
kentucky.
Of
course,
southern
kentucky
is
bursting
with
tourism.
As
far
as
the
lakes
we
have
lake
cumberland,
we
have
dale
hollow
lake,
we
have
green
river
lake
and
a
smattering
of
other
small
lakes.
Of
course,
houseboating
is
huge,
and
I
I
definitely
think-
and
according
to
research,
there
are
more
tourism
jobs
in
southern
kentucky
than
anything
else.
G
A
lot
of
the
people
that
work
in
tourism
may
not
have
a
full-time
job,
but
they
have
a
seasonal
job.
They
work
at
the
marinas,
the
state
park
and
it
it
feeds
their
family
in
southern
kentucky,
we're
a
mix
of
very
small
businesses
and
some
larger
marinas,
as
well,
and
and
also
five
kentucky
state
parks,
which
are
very,
very
important
to
our
economy
as
a
whole.
In
kentucky
when
coveted
hit-
and
I-
and
we
are
small-
everything
we
have
in
in
southern
kentucky
is
small.
G
G
I
always
like
to
say
that
tourism,
no
matter
where
you
are
big
city
or
small
city,
it
touches
every
single
facet
of
every
business
when
coveted
hit
our
state
parks,
some
of
them
closed
devastating,
both
in
southern
kentucky
and
in
western
kentucky
as
well.
I
think
those
were
the
largest
state
parks,
big
shout
out
to
representative
branskim,
and
I
so
appreciate
all
of
you
all
that.
G
Let
us
call
you
and
say
help
help
us,
please,
and
he
did,
and
our
good
friend
senator
max
wise
as
well
helped
get
those
parks
back
open,
but
that
was
after
the
second
shutdown
due
to
this
crazy
pandemic.
You
know
that
we're
in
the
in
the
middle
of,
but
in
addition
to
the
state
parks
being
completely
shut
down,
you
know,
travel
had
stopped.
Julie
was
talking
about
airbnbs,
which
we
have
several
in
russell
county
and
when
travel
is
stopped
and
you
think
of
small
business
and
how
it
affects
them.
G
G
The
insurance
companies,
you
know,
are
not
making
the
extra
money
from
what
it
costs
for
airbnb
or
brbo
to
run,
but
it
affects
every
single,
every
single
facet
of
tourism
and
then
also
I
like
to
mention
that
the
the
cbbs,
especially
in
small
communities,
we
are
the
backbone
for
marketing
and
promotion
for
these
small
businesses
and
if
we
don't
have
the
funds
to
promote
those
small
businesses
are
really
truly
affected
and
in
russell
county
we
are
well
in
southern
kentucky
as
a
whole.
G
We
are
not
a
wealthy,
wealthy
community,
especially
not
in
russell
county.
These
small
businesses
absolutely
depend
on
travelers
and
and
of
course,
they're
coming
to
lake
cumberland
or
dale
hollow
or
green
river
lake.
That's
our
hook,
but
we
want
them
to
shop
in
our
stores,
go
to
our
restaurants
and
we
need
marketing
money
to
be
able
to
tell
our
story
fully.
G
We,
as
brandon
had
said,
we've
got
a
lot
of
visitors
now
coming
where
it's
good
to
be
small.
It's
good
to
have
big
wide,
open
spaces
and
a
lot
of
outdoor
adventure,
but
we
are
pulling
ourselves
literally
out
of
a
financial
hole.
I
I
do
not
think
very
many.
If
any
of
the
cvb's
in
southern
kentucky
had
a
reserve,
we
are
all
on
very
slim
budgets,
so
covet
hits
and-
and
we
are
just
hanging
on
by
the
by
the
fingernails
but
and
doing
everything
just
to
to
stay
alive.
G
So
now
we
are,
we
are
desperate
in
need
to
bring
additional
people
to
the
entire
state
of
kentucky,
get
that
outside
money
flowing
in
and
we
need
the
definitely
the
marketing
dollars
to
do
it.
Some
new
things
in
kentucky
probably
you've,
heard
the
200
million
dollar
project
in
pulaski
county
horse
soldier
bourbon
is
huge.
Of
course.
We
and
we
all
work
together.
We
are
not
competitors
in
any
way.
G
Tennessee
and
those
are
competitors,
but
we
work
together,
but
we
need
the
marketing
you
know
in
our
region
the
marketing
dollars
to
be
able
to
promote
that
very
exciting
project
in
russell
county.
I've
heard
in
the
spring
one
of
our
marinas
is
expanding
to
yacht
charters,
which
that's
big
for
kentucky.
G
As
a
whole,
because
I
don't
think
that's
a
thing
yet
so-
but
to
be
able
to
promote
that
and
to
bring
additional
people
in,
maybe
that
we're
going
to
florida
for
their
yacht
charter
can
now
in
the
spring
come
to
kentucky,
but
as
rep
representative
branskim
as
we
send
out
a
holler
help
we're
sending
out
another
one.
Definitely,
okay,.
I
Thank
you
jeanette,
so
another
piece
of
this
puzzle
is
that,
just
as
julie
said,
it
takes
all
of
us,
big
or
small,
east
or
west.
It
does
not
matter
so
there's
another
piece
of
the
industry
that
has
been
absolutely
devastated
by
covet
and
will
be
very
slow
to
recover
and
that's
the
meetings
and
conventions
which
primarily
focuses
on
louisville
lexington
and
the
northern
kentucky
area.
They
are
massively
struggling.
I
That
is
a
big
piece
of
their
tourism
puzzle
and
right
now
they
don't
have
the
means
again
to
propel
forward
and
they
are
looking
beyond
the
year
that
we
are
working
in
now
they're
looking
at
trying
to
reel
in
and
how
meetings,
work
and
conventions
work
is
they're
working
for
2023
and
beyond,
but
right
now
they
don't
have
the
money
for
site
visits.
They
don't
have
the
money
to
recruit.
They
don't
even
have
the
money
to
travel
to
a
travel
planning
session.
I
J
Aaron,
you
probably
know
that
in
my
past
life
you
know
I
served
on
the
visit
list
board
for
about
five
years
and
was
the
financial
chairman
of
that
voice.
So
the
convention
business
bureau
is
something
that's
very
near
and
dear
to
my
heart.
J
J
With
the
bringing
on
of
the
the
fort
plant
in
hardin
county,
I'd
like
for
you
to
consider,
maybe
in
four
or
five
years,
having
an
automobile
trail
as
well
with
toyota,
oh
yeah,
in
in
scott
county,
with
the
ford
plan
in
louisville,
yes,
with
the
oncoming
electric
battery
and
truck
plant
in
hardin
county
and
in
the
corvette
plant
down
that
65
corridor
in
bowling
green,
I
I
think
that's
the
next
trail
that
kentucky
all
developed.
Yes,
so
it's
not
really
a
question,
but
it
is
a
suggestion.
I
We
have
different
types
of
people
walking
in
our
doors
and
different
types
of
people
in
our
community,
but
we
have
no
sense
of
why
and
so
that's
another
piece
of
our
funding
that
we're
needing
is
research
to
figure
out.
How
do
we
reach
those
car
enthusiasts
bowling
green
has
a
good
step
hold
to
that
and
they
would
be
a
great
anchor,
but
how
do
we
pull
them
in?
Where
are
they
coming
from
and
what
attracts
them
to
us?
But
that's
an
excellent
idea
that
adds
to
we
do
trails
very
well
here.
H
I
A
that's
a
very
strong,
that's
a
strong
place
for
us
to
be.
We
do
trails
very
well,
because
we
are
very
much
a
drivable
state
and
you
can
see
all
sorts
of
different.
You
can
see
mountains,
you
can
see
corn
fields,
you
can
see
tobacco
and
you
can
also
see
a
big
city.
So
that's
an
excellent
suggestion.
I
really
like
that
they
do
too.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
all
for
being
here
today.
I
have
a
two-fold
question:
if
I
may
so,
the
funding
request
is
75
million
based
on
your
paper.
So
are
we
similar
to
louisiana
and
mississippi?
I
mean
I
guess,
I'm
asking:
how
did
we
arrive
at
75
million
and
then
the
second
part
of
my
question
is:
how
do
you
propose
if
this
request
is
granted?
How
would
that
be
distributed
across
the
commonwealth
based
on
grocery
seats
from
19
2019?
I
Right
so
to
address
the
first
part
of
your
question.
If
you
look
at
the
funding
of
the
other
states
that
I
gave
you
louisiana
was
specifically
put
up
there,
because
they
have
the
same
current
political
makeup
that
we
do
so
it's
a
very
similar
situation
for
their
state.
Obviously,
tennessee
is
a
little
alarming,
especially
a
no
for
the
three
of
us
tennessee.
All
three
of
us
sit
on
the
border
of
tennessee,
and
so
that's
very
scary
for
us,
as
far
as
what
they're
going
to
be
able
to
do
ahead
of
the
curve.
I
So
that's
why
they
are
listed,
but
louisiana.
Specifically,
that's
where
that
number
came
from
75
million
is
just
an
estimated
cost.
We
felt
that
we
could
easily
divide
those
funds
between
when
I
talked
about
meetings
and
conventions
area
also
to
the
kdt
office,
who
sends
things
out
internationally
and
nationally,
especially
for
small
cbbs.
We
don't
have
the
funds
to
reach
that
far
and
then
another
piece
of
that
pie
would
get
funneled
down
directly
to
dmos
directly
to
our
offices
and
again
that
can
meet
anything
as
promotions.
I
I
All
of
that
is
very
important
for
us
to
be
able
to
build
our
house
back
up,
and
so
that's
how
those
funds
would
be
divvy
kind
of
into
those
three
segments,
if
that
makes
sense,
and
then,
as
far
as
accountability
and
how
those
funds
would
be
shifted
out,
possibly
through
hopefully
through
the
kdt
office,
we
lend
ourselves
to
their
expertise.
We
already
have
mechanisms
in
place
for
our
matching
funds,
our
tourism
incentive
program
that
we
already
know
how
to
do.
We
have
contracts
already
set
with
the
state
to
receive
funds.
I
F
Well,
I'm
going
to
second
senator
thomas's
motion
and
I
have
a
question
for
you
relating
to
the
auto
trail
that
ends
at
the
corvette
factory
and
the
corvette
factory.
I
Yes,
yeah,
it's
a
really
great
tour.
It's
a
really
great
place
to
be
yes,
so
the
bowling
green
convention
and
visitors
bureau
works
very
closely
with
them,
as
well
as
the
corvette
museum.
They
understand
the
need
as
to
what
tourists
fit
into
the
big
piece
of
what
that
facility
means
as
far
as
bringing
in
visitors,
and
I
think
it
has
to
do
with
covid
protocols
and
hopefully
in
the
next
year,
we'll
be
able
to
see
tours
open
back
up
again.
Awesome.
A
A
K
L
K
Yes,
we
are
so
grateful
to
be
here
and
we
were
asked
to
present
on
how,
in
our
two
industries
recovering
and
just
so
you
understand,
we
work
very
closely
with
the
restaurant
association
they're
affiliated
with
the
retail
federation
for
the
purpose
of
government
affairs,
so
we
do
work
on
their
legislative
issues
for
them
so
just
to
get
started.
We
just
here's
a
few
of
the
things
we're
going
to
go
over.
K
I
wanted
to
bring
out
a
little
bit
about
the
impact
of
what
especially
some
of
our
major
chain
members.
I
think
that
a
lot
of
times
we
we
don't
see
their
full
impact
and
what
they
have
located
here
in
kentucky
and
what
they've
done
you
know
we
have
lots
of
our
members
who
have
distribution
facilities
here,
manufacturing
facilities
here
and,
of
course,
there
are
numerous
retail
locations.
K
K
They
are
quickly
becoming
a
very
easily
accessible
and
health
care
site
that
many
many
customers
want
to
continue
to
utilize
in
that
manner.
We've
had
the
benefit
of
some
federal
flexibilities
that
kentucky
has
taken
advantage
of
to
continue
those
efforts,
but
you
know
just
a
few
of
the
things
you
know.
I
think
it's
always
important
to
remember.
K
We
have
lots
of
folks
who
donate
food
kroger
donated,
I
just
happen
to
have
theirs
on
hand:
1.7
million.
Additionally,
they
have
a
program
where
they
allow
food
banks
to
come
directly
to
their
locations,
to
take
food.
That
may
be
on
the
verge
of
timing
out
of
when
it
can
be
sold
to
the
customer,
and
so
that
that
food
bank
will
take
it
and
take
advantage
of
that.
K
It's
been
a
very
successful
program
provided
paid,
leave
to
give
vaccinations,
provided
transportation
to
vaccination
appointments
and
then
actually,
in
stacy's
organization,
held
worked
with
pharmacies
to
hold
vaccination
clinics
at
actual
restaurants.
K
So
here
are
some
statistics:
these
are
national
restaurant
statistics.
I
think
that
the
most
critical
thing
to
understand
is
that
we're
st
right.
The
restaurant
industry
is
still
not
back
prior
to
how
it
was
going
before
covent
19.
and
in
kentucky
our
restaurant
industry
was
thriving.
K
K
But,
of
course,
there's
still
challenges
that
stacy's
members
are
facing
and
nearly
four
and
five
restaurants
are
understaffed
and
and
the
lack
of
labor
the
increased
costs
of
labor,
but
also
now
the
supply
chain.
Issues
that
both
of
our
members
are
facing
continues
to
add
to
the
problems
and
challenges
that
our
industries
face.
L
Sure
I
I
would
also
say
that-
and
you
all
have
probably
noticed
this
if
you've
gone
out
to
eat
or
even
gone
through
a
drive-through,
to
pick
something
up.
You
know
the
wait
is
longer,
the
hours
are
restricted
and
we
pass
places
all
the
time
that
you're
looking
at
thinking.
Why
aren't
they
open
right
now?
Well,
this
is
exactly
why
they're
not
open
they
either.
Don't
have
the
staff
to
be
open
right
that
minute
or
they
chose
to
take
that
close
that
day,
when
they
would
normally.
F
L
K
And
so
we
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
the
legislation
in
2020
that
you
did
pass
that
very
much
benefited
our
industries.
The
legal
liability
reforms
that
the
general
assembly
has
now
passed
twice
to
protect
those,
including
retailers
and
restaurants,
was
critical
for
our
industry,
especially
so
that
we
could
try.
We
just
grew
and
adapted
and
changed.
We
were
really
flying
by
the
seat
of
our
pants
as
we
tried
to
understand
what
it
was
we
were
facing
and
how
we
were
going
to
attack
it
with.
K
That
being
said,
you
know
the
cocktails
to
go
for
restaurants.
There
was
such
a
wonderful
thing
that
the
general
assembly
gave
temporary
permission
for
and
and
going
back
to,
2020.
If
you
remember
the
end
of
the
session,
you
did
do
that
and
then
making
it
permanent.
Just
so
wonderful,
as
was
the
raw
groceries.
K
The
tax
changes
regarding
small
business
loans
that
we
were
so
dependent
upon
to
get
through
covet
19
we,
that
is,
we
truly
appreciate
that
change.
It
was
just
critical
to
get
that
through.
So
we
appreciate
those
and
say
thank
you.
K
So
we
wanted
to
talk
about
okay.
So
what
are
our
current
challenges?
We,
you
know
we
we
are
continuing
to
move
along,
but
there
are
absolutely
current
challenges.
I
think
that
we
we
all
know
that
supply
chain
issues
you
may
have
noticed
and
you'll
see
later
here.
The
kentucky
retail
federation
is
urging
you
to
shop
early
for
the
holidays.
K
Please
please,
please,
we
want
you
to
be
able
to
get.
I
don't
know
what
the
in
toy
is,
this
time,
maybe
it's
the
xbox
x
or
the
playstation
or
whatever,
but
we
want
you
to
be
able
to
get
that
for
your
families
and
we
so
shop
early.
It
does
appear
given
our
national
surveys
that
customers
are
going
to
do
that.
Labor
continues
to
be
a
struggle,
increased
cost
of
things,
inflation
and
then
you
know
just
the
unknowns
with
the
virus
and
how
we
are
going
to
manage
those
things.
K
So
we'll
talk
about
a
little
bit
about
those
each
this
I
love
this
picture.
I
just
one.
I
think
it's
a
really
cool
picture,
but
this
is
a
picture
from
the
la
times
of
you
can
see
the
ships
out
waiting
to
come
to
port.
K
Yesterday,
california,
governor
gavin
newsom
signed
an
executive
order
to
allow
public
lands
and
or
like
public
parks
or
places
on
the
coast,
to
allow
these
ships
to
come
into
port
at
those
places
so
that
they
could
try
and
alleviate
this
backlog.
K
So
I
know
that
president
biden
has
made
some
or
changes
to
argue
to
get
those
ports
to
open
24
hours
a
day,
but
you
know
this
is
not
a
new
problem
for
the
retail
industry,
when
this
is
something
that
the
national
retail
federation
has
been
trying
to
deal
with
for
a
number
of
years,
but
we
it.
We
are
at
a
very
much
a
very
high
level
of
shipping
problems
right
now.
Tariffs,
don't
help
that
issue
either
going
the
other
way,
and
so
this
is.
K
This
is
not
a
new
issue
to
the
retail
industry.
It's
just
now.
All
of
our
consumers
are
experiencing
the
pains
so
again
we're
encouraging
you
to
shop
early
shop.
Often
you
know
we
want
to
make
sure
that,
but
we
do
think
that
that
customers
are
still
not
going
to
spend
for
that
holiday
spending
at
where
they
were
spending
prior
to
the
pandemic.
K
So
that
tells
us
that
consumer
confidence
is
just
not
quite
back
to
where
we
would
like
to
see
it
to
be
so.
I
hate
this
headline,
but
I
wanted
to
pull
this
out.
So
this
was
an
interesting
article,
but
that
the
the
retail
industry
does
seem
to
be
responding
to
employees
demands
for
higher
wages,
and
I
just
thought
that
this
article,
it's
a
washington
post
article,
it
talks
about
child
care
workers,
leaving
child
care
facilities.
K
Really
I
understand
the
daycare
industry
and
the
hamstrings
that
they
have
on
themselves,
but
you
know
for
that.
Retail
is
responding
and
paying
their
employees
more.
I
think,
is
something
that
that
we're
proud
of.
K
K
K
There
is
a
new
term
if
you
watched
the
consensus
forecasting
group.
I
think
that
this
term
was
brought
out
of
ghost
and
coast
and,
if
you're
an
employee,
it's
a
pretty
inventive
strategy.
So
the
idea
is
that
you
go
and
get
trained
on
a
skill,
and
then
you
ghost
the
employer
that
hired
you
and
go
to
the
other
employers,
similarly
situated
in
the
industry
and
see
who
will
give
you
the
highest
wage.
K
So
there
is
a
lot
of
trying
to
take
advantage
of
how
to
get
the
most
out
of
the
marketplace,
and
you
know
customers
are
frustrated
at
times
as
as
stacy
has
said.
I
think
that
we
all
recognize
that
just
living
through
the
global
pandemic
has
raised
our
frustration
level
very
high.
Our
anxieties
very
high.
I
think
that
if
you
saw
the
stories
about
the
tennessee
football
game
this
past
weekend,
that
that's
a
demonstration
of
that-
and
you
know-
managing
customers
is
something
that
we
do
is
very
number
one
in
our
business.
K
And
just
the
things
that
you
know,
I
know
I
don't
know.
If
you're
a
mom
I
mean
my
middle
son,
drew
is
devastated
because
he
can't
get
caprice
on
lemonades.
Gatorades
are
on
short
supply.
My
boys
are
big
milk
drinkers.
Thank
goodness.
We
can
still
get
that,
although
sometimes
not
the
milk
they
prefer
and
the
packaging
is
where
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
shortages.
K
So
it's
not
just
the
raw
products
themselves.
It's
the
actual
packaging.
Those
costs
are
going
up
and
then
transportation
costs
are
going
up.
As
you
have
a
shortage
of
driver
drivers
and
from
some
of
the
retail
economists
that
that
I've
read
you'll,
they
still
believe
that
inflationary
pressures
will
ease
that
this
is
a
temporary
situation.
K
So
you
know,
other
concerns
is,
is
what
will
be
the
new
variant,
but
also
for
our
employees
perspective
is
it
is
daycare
the
cost
of
daycare.
It
is
childcare,
getting
access
to
it.
If
you
think
about,
if
you're
an
employee
and
you
can
have
a
consistent
schedule
and
an
office
job
or
you
can
have
work
in
retail,
where
your
hours
may
vary,
you
may
you
have
a
marketplace
right
now
that
allows
you
to
make
those
decisions,
but
our
employees
are
trying
to
keep
up
with
some
of
those
costs
as
well.
K
L
Things
are
going
to
be
rough
for
a
while,
yet
you
know
I
never
thought
we'd
be
saying
that
a
year
ago
I
thought
we
were
you
know
in
it
for
a
few
months,
and
I
think
everybody
did
right.
We,
we
thought,
we're
america
we're
gonna
soar
through
all
this
and
put
it
behind
us
with
that
said,
I
think
going
into
2022.
L
We
would
hope
that
the
main
message
that
we
have
is
do
no
harm.
You
know
try
and,
and
just
be
careful
about-
and
I
know
you
always
are
and
thoughtful
about
legislation
that
will
impact
these
businesses
that
are
still
reeling
from
last
year
and
you
might
see
restaurants
look
very
busy
but
they're
doing
a
fraction
of
what
they
would
be
able
to
do
with
the
proper
staffing
and
with
the
removal
of
the
the
health
concerns
that
people
still
have.
L
That
would
be
a
great
from
from
our
employer's
perspective,
a
great
way
to
bring
in
younger
folks
and
train
them
and
allow
them
to
experience
the
tips
that
can
be
earned,
which
are
a
great
a
great
supplement
to
that
base
rate.
Also.
We
would
hope
that
with
those
arp
dollars,
as
many
of
our
other
states
have
done,
they
would
carve
out
some
specific
program
for
restaurant
revenue
loss
to
be
able
to
award
it
to
some
of
the
restaurants
that
we
have
in
kentucky
and
going
into
2020.
We
were
absolutely
thriving.
L
We
had
7
700
plus
restaurant
locations
in
the
state.
We
would
love
to
be
able
to
keep
as
many
of
those
who
have
lived
through
this
so
far
as
we
possibly
can.
So
I
thank
you
all
for
all
the
things
that
you've
done
over
this
past
year
and
a
half
and
just
going
into
2022
hope
that
you
continue
the
good
work
that
you
started.
K
B
K
I
just
was
going
to
you
know
again
going
back
to
the
just
a
couple
things
on
the
do
no
harm
front.
You
know
we
continue
to
hear
lots
of
discussions
about
allowing
a
constitutional
amendment
for
local
option
sales
taxes.
That's
a
concern
for
both
of
us
because
of
potential.
You
know
you
pay
a
sales
tax
on
a
restaurant
meal,
but
you
know
that
constitutional
change.
K
It's
a
fact
that
our
consumers,
we
our
customers,
are
our
constituents
and
that
we
want
them
to
have
those
dollars
in
their
pocketbook
property.
Tax
assessments
we've
had
legislation
filed
in
recent
decisions
from
the
board
of
tax
appeals
really
targeting
retail
sector
for
property
tax
assessments
based
on
how
successful
they
are
in
the
marketplace,
based
on
who's,
most
credit
worthy.
K
K
We
know
that
local
governments
want
to
all
be
able
to
to
do
a
restaurant
tax,
but
we
feel
that
now
is
not
the
time,
especially
as
consumer
confidence
continues
to
be
on
shaky
ground
and
the
fees,
fees
and
more
fees.
I
have
to
say
over
the
last
year,
while
you've
not
been
in
session,
I
have
spent
more
time
working
on
increased
food
permit
fees.
K
Now
we
have
increased
fees
from
the
transportation
cabinets
on
the
local
panel
signs
it's
going
to
more
than
double
those
fees
to
place
a
logo.
On
that
sign,
and
and
for
one
of
my
members,
it's
an
increased
cost
of
30
000
for
one
year
and
and
so
those
are
the
types
of
things
that
that
we're
looking
at
alcohol
sales.
I
don't
think
it's
that
you
know
we
want
to.
We
appreciate
cocktails
to
go,
but
the
retail
sector
also
wants
to
ensure
that
it
can
grow
in
its
retailing
ability.
K
We've
had
a
recent
decision
from
the
abc
that
went
from
saying
we
could
sell
wine
spritzers
to
saying
we
can't
and
that's
caused
some
frustration
in
the
marketplace,
particularly
as
other
sectors
of
the
alcohol
industry
seem
to
be
growing
and
expanding,
and
we
we
can't
seem
to
fully
retail
that.
That's
a
frustration
for
our
folks,
the
discussion
of
soda
taxes
that
that
causes
us
some
concern
or
any
taxes
specifically
on
a
product
and
then
organized
retail
theft.
This
is
something
that
has
grown
over
the
covet
19
pandemic.
K
If,
if
you've
been
monitoring
it
at
all,
you
will
see
there
will
be
huge
warehouses
that
look
like
you're
walking
into
a
home
depot
warehouse
and
you're,
not
you're,
walking
into
somebody's
back
building
of
a
garage,
and
it's
all
things
that
have
been
stolen
and
there
are
online
marketplaces
that
make
it
easy
to
really
get
rid
of
these
products
in
just
the
last
year.
I
think
it's
over
eight
walgreens
in
the
city
of
san
francisco
have
closed
because
of
the
fact
their
their
felony
threshold
is
950.
K
We've
gone
to
a
thousand.
I
will
fully
recognize
our
criminal
justice
system
does
not
mirror
theirs.
I'm
not
arguing
that
at
all.
We
do
have
aggregation
and
I
hope
our
county
attorneys
will
take
full
advantage
of
that.
That's
in
the
law,
but
at
the
same
time
it
is
becoming
a
national
problem
and
for
the
retail
sector,
and
if
you
want
to
look
at
there
is
a
little
video
of
gentleman
just
walking
into
a
store
and
walking
out
with
big
things
and
no
one's
stopping
them,
and
it's
continuing
to
be
a
growing
problem.
A
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
all
for
being
here
today.
We
know
the
past
year
or
two
has
been
pretty
tough
on
our
restaurants,
our
retailers
and
as
well
as
our
tourism,
our
previous
presenters.
You
know
that's
and
I've
seen
what
janet's
done
done
firsthand
down
in
lake
cumberland,
my
home,
and
what
she's
done
for
tourism
in
our
area.
So
I
know
it's
been
tough
for
everybody
over
the
past
couple
years,
but
we
really
appreciate
everything
you
all
do.
E
L
L
L
The
language
that
we've
looked
at
right
now,
if
you're
under
20
you're,
not
supposed
to
be
involved
in
a
transaction
that
that
has
to
do
with
alcohol,
busing
tables
or
delivering
drinks
and
such
so.
If
you
are
in
a
position
to
be
able
to
serve
food
and
maybe
you're
at
an
establishment
that
doesn't
sell
a
lot
of
alcohol,
someone
else,
that's
over
that
age
would
have
to
bring
that
alcohol
to
the
table.
E
A
Has
your
national
federation?
Obviously
some
of
these
things
occur
at
a
higher
level
than
frankfurt.
Have
they
taken
any
position
on
trying
to
to
support
legislation
to
encourage
the
re-shoring
of
certain
industries
so
that
we
don't
find
ourselves
dependent
on
foreign
governments.
K
They
there
is
a
bill,
that's
I
think,
been
introduced
in
congress.
I
think
it's
the
ocean
spill
or
something
that
they
are
supportive
of
that
they
see
would
alleviate
some
of
these
port
issues.
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
intimate
details
of
if
it
includes
not
outsourcing
these
these
pieces,
but
I'm
happy
to
get
back
with
you.
I
thought
I
had
it
with
me,
but
I
don't
have
it
and.
A
You
mentioned,
I
guess
the
retail
federation's
operate
opposition
to
tariffs,
but
you
know
I
know
some
particular
industries
like
steel.
We
did
see
somewhat
of
a
resurgence
in
the
american
manufacturing
capability
when
those
tariffs
were
placed
on
foreign
steel
imports,
as
well
as
other
what
I
might
call
national
security
industries.
A
What
exactly
is
your
opposition
to
that,
considering
that
some
countries
like
china
and
even
some
european
countries
have
dumped
cheap?
You
know
steel.
That
in
many
ways
is
government
subsidized
on
the
market.
K
I
think
that
you're,
you
bring
up
an
excellent
point,
because
our
members
would
have
concerns
on
both
sides
of
that
issue.
You
know
in
the
example
that
you
gave
we
have
very
great
concern
about
counterfeit
products
and
products
that
are
not
safe
for
consumers
and
being
sold
to
consumers
at
the
same
time.
Being
our
the
ability
to
sell
most
economically
to
consumers
is
something
we
have
to
consider
as
well.
So,
yes,
I
think
you
are
correct.
We
have
great
concern
about
products
that
are
of
lesser
quality
or
that
are
counterfeit.
A
I
mean
I
just
always
think
of
I've
got
a
19,
probably
74
television
at
my
house
in
my
father-in-law's
basement.
That
still
turns
on
and
works,
but
you
know
one
of
the
ones
you
buy
at
walmart,
you're
lucky
if
it
lasts
two
years
it's
made
in
korea
or
china,
and
you
know,
I
think
that
you
know
you
get
what
you
pay.
For
I
mean
and
with
the
rising
wages,
which
I
think
is
a
good
thing.
You
know
people
do
have
more
buying
capacity
for
higher
quality
goods.
K
F
Thank
you
and
this
question
may
be
actually
for
all
of
our
presenters,
and
I
know
ms
kirkpatrick
was
speaking
specific
to
airbnb
and
vrbo.
But
I
also
know
julie
personally,
and
I
know
she
has
a
lot
of
experience
with
hotels.
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
any
of
your
associations
or
federations
really
have
anything
to
offer
us
as
far
as
immigration
goes
and
when
we
come
to
the
staffing
issues.
J
Because
sometimes
we
agree-
and
you
know
sometimes
we
disagree,
but
I'm
just
trying
to
bring
some
common
sense
to
this
understanding
about
taxes.
I've
got
a
long
day
today.
I
probably
won't
get
home
to
about
eight
o'clock
tonight.
Okay,
my
wife's
gonna
be
home
and
you
know
I
don't
necessarily
expect
her
to
cook,
but
she's
gonna
be
hungry,
I'm
gonna
be
hungry,
I'm
saying
well
vela,
let's
go
out
and
get
something
to
eat.
Okay,
do
you
really
think
if
there
was
a
local
option
sales
tax?
J
I
had
to
pay
one
percent
on
that
I
would
say:
oh
honey,
well
we're
not
going
to
go
out
and
eat
tonight,
because
I
gotta
pay
an
extra
one
percent
tax.
On
my
meal
I
mean:
is
that
really
going
to
be
a
deterrent
mysticism
people
who
want
to
go
out
to
eat
and
and
and
go
to
a
restaurant
and
have
a
nice
meal.
K
Well,
thank
you
for
that
question.
I
think
it
is
a
valid
question.
We
have
fourth
and
formerly
class.
Fourth
and
fifth
cities
today
have
up
to
have
a
restaurant
tax
if
they
so
choose,
and
so
I
think
it
is
a
question
of
the
fact
that
you're
not
talking
about
a
tax
just
on
a
restaurant
and
and
to
date,
I've
not
seen
it
only
structured
as
one
percent,
and
I
think
the
restaurant
tax
is
three
percent.
K
It's
up
to
three
up
to
three,
and
so
I
think
it's
a
question
of
you're
talking
about
a
local
sales
tax
that
businesses
will
pay
on
products
that
they
buy.
I
think
you
can
look
at
the
last
fox
report
under
the
steve
bastyr
administration
and
it
talks
about
how
much
businesses
pay
in
sales
tax.
K
I
think
that
the
consumer
we
have
to
understand
the
consumer
is
price
sensitive,
and
so
maybe
you
won't
consider
you
know
not
eating
out
tonight,
but
maybe
you
won't
get
an
appetizer
or
maybe
you
won't,
you
know,
fill
your
basket
as
much,
and
so
there
is
a
limit
to
what
a
consumer
can
afford
and
again
what
this
question
is
asking
the
general
assembly
to
do
is
to
put
to
the
voters
whether
or
not
a
constitutional
provision
should
be
removed.
K
That
would
allow
the
general
assembly
to
give
cities
the
authority
to
do
sales
taxes
again.
My
concern
is:
is
we
keep
talking
about
how
this
general
assembly
would
structure
sales
taxes,
and
maybe
it's
local
option,
or
maybe
it's
not
or
we're
gonna
get
rid
of
income?
You
know
productivity,
taxes
and
those
types
of
things,
but
what
about
in
the
future?
What
about
in
a
hundred
years
from
now?
How
will
that
general
assembly
know?
B
Thank
you
all
for
coming
and
presenting
today
appreciate
the
information
I
did
have
two
questions.
One
is
from
a
restaurant
standpoint.
Are
there
any
particular
restaurants
that
are
still
implementing
their
own
capacity
regulations
and
how
is
that
affecting
them?
And
then
my
other
question
would
be
from
a
vaccine
mandate
standpoint.
Are
we
seeing
any
effect
as
far
as
the
workforce
issues
that
we
have,
that
that
could
be
having
or
potentially
would
have
in
the
future
on
businesses
as
well?
Thank
you.
L
On
your
first
question,
I
think
that
the
capacity
limits
that
are
happening
are
a
result
of
staffing
directly.
L
You
know
we're
seeing
a
year
ago
everybody
was
being
really
nice
and
kind,
and
we
were
really
going
out
of
our
way
to
help
each
other
get
through
all
this
people
have
kind
of
reverted,
not
everybody,
obviously,
but
a
lot
of
folks
are
just
fed
up
with
everything
and
we're
all
tired
of
all
this,
and
so
now
the
person
that
a
year
ago
would
be
thanking
the
hostess
and
waiting
patiently
is
going
and
sitting
at
that
table
anyway,
and
so
I
think
that
most
restaurants
aren't
putting
capacity
limits
on
on
that
for
covet
purposes,
but
more
for
and
many
of
them
have
kept
the
distancing
in
place,
but
but
a
lot
of
them
have
had
to
limit
either
their
capacity.
L
Or
you
know,
I've
got
a
full
restaurant,
so
I'm
going
to
turn
my
online
ordering
off
or
you
know
what
we
can't
do,
both
the
drive-through
and
the
in
inside,
so
we're
closing
the
inside
and
we're
just
doing
the
drive
through,
and
so
I
think
that
is
the
capacity
effect
that
we've
seen
play
out
on
the
vaccine
mandate
front.
We
haven't
seen
a
lot
of
restaurant
companies,
mandate,
vaccines
and
so
shannon
may
know
more
from
a
retail
perspective
of
that.
K
Yes,
and
of
course,
the
federal
law
has
not,
our
federal
regulation
has
not
gone
into
effect,
yet
we
still
haven't
seen
its
final
version,
but
to
my
knowledge,
I
am
not
aware
of
a
member
who
has
a
vaccine
mandate.
We
have
lots
of
members
who
did
incentives,
paying
providing
paid,
leave
transportation
pay
those
different
things,
but
I
haven't
heard
of
a
member
mandating.
Yet
I
think
when
it
comes
to
either
side
of
the
equation.
K
Run
their
business
in
the
way
they
see
that's
best
fit
if
they
so
choose
to
require
their
employees
to
get
a
vaccine,
then
they
want
to
be
able
to
choose
that.
If
they
don't
want
to
choose
that
path,
then
they
want
to
be
able
to
choose
that
as
well
or
it
have
some
sameness.
If
that's
the
way
it's
going
to
be
so
that's
where
our
members
are
today.
A
Next
we
have
representative
dodson
that'll,
be
the
final
question.
If
anybody
else
has
any,
please
feel
free
to
send
them
to
the
committee
and
we'll
get
them
to
the
appropriate
presenters.
D
D
I
had
over
200
employees
and
five
restaurants,
and
you
know
we
seen
during
the
pandemic
that
the
business
model
changed
quite
a
bit
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
with
the
extra
monies
that
came
in
from
the
government
a
lot
of
people
staying
home
not
having
to
work,
so
we
had
to
operate
our
drive-throughs
and
what
happened,
especially
in
the
mcdonald's
in
the
upper
tier
of
those
who
operate
drive-throughs
in
their
business
model.
We
try
to
keep.
You
know
a
controllable
of
labor,
less
than
30
percent.
D
That
is
a
mark
that
we
try
to
use
as
operators
and
what
had
happened
during
covid.
They
saw
that
they
became
more
profitable
by
just
keeping
their
daycare.
I
mean
not,
I'm
sorry,
the
drive-through's
open
and
shutting
down
the
interior
and
so
a
lot
of
times.
What
we
think
is
short
staffed
is
not
really
short
staffed.
Correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
we're
seeing
that
they're
more
profitable.
So
therefore,
they
shut
down
the
dining
rooms
under
the
guise
of
being
short
staffed.
K
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
think
you're
right
it
has,
it
absolutely
has
changed.
I
think
that
you're
going
to
see
more
self-directed
ordering,
I
think
that's
one
of
the
responses
that
retail
and
restaurants
have
had.
K
D
A
Thank
you,
representative.
Dodson.
That's
very
informative.
Well,
I
think
that
concludes
our
meeting
for
today.
Thank
you,
presenters
for
coming
and
the
next
meeting
of
this
committee
will
be
held
on
november
18th
at
one
o'clock
p.m.