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A
A
I
would
ask
the
members
to
raise
your
right
hand
and
we're
going
to
swear
in.
Do
you
sell
me
somewhere?
The
testimonial
will
be
given
today
is
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing,
but
the
truth
so
help
you,
god.
C
A
D
Yes,
we
are.
We
are
going
to
present
to
the
members
this
morning
a
little
bit
on
our
reaction
to
the
covid
19
pandemic
regarding
our
regulatory
flexibility.
We're
also
going
to
talk
a
bit
about
budget
information
that
we
understand.
You
all
are
a
bit
interested
in
to
kick
off
the
presentation
today,
I'm
going
to
introduce
you
to,
although
some
some
of
these
people
are
known
for
the
committee
members,
I'm
sure
I'm
going
to
introduce
you
to
this
excellent
team.
We
have
commissioner
patton,
commissioner
of
dep.
D
E
Good
morning,
chairman
becker
members
of
the
committee,
it's
privileged
to
have
an
opportunity
to
provide
testimony
to
the
committee
today,
I'm
just
going
to
make
a
few
remarks
and
then
we'll
we'll
move
forward
into
our
actual
presentation.
E
I
think
some
of
the
keys
that
what
I
believe
we've
had
some
missing
success
and
being
able
to
manage
our
mission
of
serving
the
public
and
the
rectivation
the
regulated
sector
is
that
we
have.
We
have
made
adjustments.
The
governor's
secretary
made
adjustments
in
both
short-term
and
long-term
issues.
E
Early
on
as
the
pandemic
became
a
reality,
the
department
department's
environmental
protection
was
required
to
identify
what
some
of
its
essential
services
are,
or
essential
services
to
the
public
as
much
as
anything
and
how
that
connected
to
our
department-
and
there
was
a
a
handful
of
things
that
obviously
are
essential
services,
and
we
knew
that
we
had
to
make
any
necessary
adjustments
to
continue
to
maintain
our
services.
One
is
obviously
drinking
water
and
wastewater
capacity.
E
That's
an
essential
service,
solid
waste
management
and
I'll
get
into
this
a
little
bit
later
on
some
of
the
details
of
why
solid
waste
management
was
identified
as
an
essential
service.
Another
thing
is
to
maintain
our
ready
to
respond
to
environmental
emergencies
within
the
department.
We
have
an
environmental
response
team,
actually
a
very
good
and
well-trained
and
equipped
environmental
response
team
to
address
the
myriad
of
environmental
emergencies
should
they
arrive
and
we
hope
they
don't,
but
when
they
do
we're
ready
and
also
to
maintain
a
readiness
in
our
dep
laboratory,
we
have.
E
E
One
of
the
things
that
you
will
chairman
before
members
of
the
committee
you
will
hear
from
us
is
that
we
have
relied
heavily
on
our
electronic
framework
that
we
have
worked
hard
to
establish
in
the
agency
and
what
that
basically
means
is
that
over
time
as
we
continue
to
develop
as
we
go,
we
have
been
able
to
put
a
lot
of
our
almost
all
of
our
processes
into
an
electronic
databases
or
programs.
E
Secretary
goodman
suggests
early
on
when,
when
we
were
going
to
be
working
from
home,
to
establish
virtual
private
networks
or
vpns
for
for
almost
well
for
all
of
our
staff,
really
so
essentially
a
staff
person,
particularly
central
office
staff,
who
generally
work
in
the
office
settings,
are
able
to
access
these
safe
servers
from
their
from
their
computers
at
home,
and
and
do
these
do
the
same
work
from
home
that
they
could
do
from
here.
E
So
during
the
courses
pandemic,
we
have
continued
to
receive
and
process
a
variety
of
environmental
permit
applications
to
a
large
degree.
That's
how
the
agency
is
measured,
how
it
receives
applications
in
response
to
them,
and
we've
been
able
to
maintain
that
service
to
both
the
public
and
the
regulated
sector.
E
E
Also,
we
have
continued
to
do
our
inspection
during
this
time
period.
Early
on,
we
made
some
slight
adjustments
to
our
field
inspectors
and
if
they
were
to
continue
doing
field
inspections,
but
for
a
period
of
time,
partly
due
to
the
safety
of
our
employees
and
everyone
else
and
sometimes
having
to
do
with
the
facility
they
were
inspecting
when
there
was
a
determination
made
that
for
a
period
of
time,
when
we
were
doing
an
inspection,
we
would
not
go
in
an
outside
building
or
other
structure.
E
Recently,
we
have
modified
that
where
our
inspectors
are
once
again
back
to
going
to
doing
full
inspections
and
even
including
buildings
and
outside
structures,
with
certain
safety
criteria
that
they
are
required
to
follow,
such
as
wearing
mass
and
social
distance
and
and
another
thing,
that's
really
important
and
sort
of,
even
near
and
dear
to
my
heart,
as
we
continue
to
support
our
economic
development
project
with
here
within
the
department
of
environmental
protection
and
commissioner's
office,
we
have
the
assets
that
are
directed
to
work
with
cabinet
for
economic
development
on
a
full-time
basis,
because
much
of
what
the
agency
do
touches
on
economic
development
projects
and
in
two
primarily
two
ways
in
particular.
E
If,
if
a
facility
wants
to
expand
or
locate
in
kentucky
as
air
emissions,
the
federal
state
rules
don't
allow
construction
until
an
air
permit
is
issued.
I
could
say
with
absolute
confidence
that
our
division
for
air
quality
responds
timely
and
effectively
to
any
of
these
permitting
requirements
that
might
come
up
when
you
have
an
economic
development
project.
That's
time
system
and
we
have
been
very
successful.
E
We
have
advantages
over
other
states,
the
issue
of
construction
and
simultaneous
operational
permit
and
our
ability
to
respond
more
timely
than
some
of
our
counterparts
has
been
critical
in
some
cases
to
kentucky
becoming
successful
in
business
expansions
and
drawing
in
new
business,
and
also
our
brownfields
redevelopment
program
is
pretty
key
too.
So
we
have
some
fairly
simplistic
projects
moving
into
the
state,
but
because
of
our
liability
structure
that
we
have
in
our
brownfields
program,
which
frankly,
has
been
this
business
for
over
30
years.
E
It's
one
of
the
best
that
you'll
find
is
also
a
pretty
key
part
in
ensuring
success,
and
we
continue
to
succeed
in
economic
development
during
the
transition
week
and
then,
lastly,
I'll
be
ready
to
pass
it
over
to
john
just
a
couple
of
things.
Secretary
goodman
requires
the
department
to
provide
her
both
weekly
and
monthly
reports.
So
we
we
measure
very
closely
the
work
activities
that
we're
doing
if
we
have
any
issues
with
our
staff
in
terms
of
computer
issues
or
any
such
things
that
we
address
timely.
F
Thank
you,
commissioner,
thank
you,
chairman
beckler
and
members
of
the
committee
for
having
us
this
morning.
If
we
could
advance
to
the
second
slide,
we'll
get
the
presentation
started.
F
Thank
you,
so
I'm
going
to
talk
about
our
regulatory
flexibility
program.
Specifically
many
of
you
may
have
heard
early
on
in
the
covet
outbreak
that
the
federal
epa
instituted
a
program
of
enforcement
discretion
recognizing
that
regulated
entities
out
there
may
have
trouble
meeting
some
of
their
obligations
due
to
shutdowns
or
actual
positive
tests,
in
some
cases,
in
some
cases
so
epa
on
march
26,
which
was
retroactive
to
may
13th
or
march
13th
institute
their
enforcement.
B
F
B
F
That
as
it
may,
and
I'm
gonna
discuss
that
in
just
a
moment,
the
general
conditions
for
the
for
the
epa
program
was
this
temporary
release.
F
B
F
Us
granting
extensions
in
most
cases
for
people
to
comply
with
the
regulatory
requirements,
but
some
of
the
obligations
that
we
ran
across
were
or
that
epa
was
running
across
for
settlement
of
consent.
Decree
milestones,
there
might
have
been
these
decrees
in
place
that
required
certain
things
to
occur
by
certain
time
frames
and
were
interrupted
by
the
covet.
F
B
F
We
was
that
was
there
a
question.
F
Oh,
thank
you.
I
can
see
it
thank
you
chairman,
so
we
developed
our
own
program
again
and
secretary
goodman
did
it
on
may
15th
and
we
use
we
use
epa's
guidance
as
a
blueprint
for
hours,
and
we
we've
done
that
on
the
same
time.
Frame.
Epa's
guidance
actually
ends
on
august
31st,
as
does
hours,
but
secretary
did
that
by
memo
early
on
and
we
developed
our
own
program,
we
actually
that
little
picture
in
the
middle
there
depicts
our
website.
F
We
developed
a
website
where
we
would
be
a
one-stop
shop
for
the
regulated
nps
to
submit
regulatory
flexibility,
requests
to
us
and
we
received
most
of
ours
early
on
in
the
process
in
the
may
time
frame,
and
we
were
asked
by
the
chamber
early
on
what
we
intended
to
do
in
order
to
follow
epa's
program
and
we
responded
rather
quickly
because
we
did
have
some
numerous
requests
early
on
and
again,
most
of
those
were
requests
for
extensions
of
deadlines
that
were
regulatory
required
reporting
requirements,
stack
tests
in
the
air
quality
world
stack
test
requirements
and
things
like
that.
F
But
we
had
conditions
on
our
program,
the
regulated
entities
they
had
to.
F
It
wasn't
a
get
out
of
jail
free
ever
program
as
far
as
we
were
concerned,
and
we
wanted
to
avoid
any
legal
entanglements
that
the
epa
had
experienced
by
doing
that.
Certainly,
if
something
was
threatening
human,
healthy
environments,
there's
no
way,
we
would
obviously
allow
any
extensions
of
that
note
of
that
type.
So,
most
of
most
of
the
things
that
we
granted
were
rather
routine
in
nature
and
in
many
cases,
things
that
we
would
have
granted
anyway
during
normal
course
of
business.
F
In
absence
of
the
code
of
see
as
it
may,
when
appliance
wasn't
possible,
you
know
they
had
to
notify
the
regulatory
program,
whether
it
was
water,
wastewater,
waste
management
or
air
quality,
and
they
had
to
they
had
to
document
where
their
non-compliance
in
terms
of
not
meeting
the
specific
deadline
was
was
evident.
So
we
could
check
up
on
that
later
to
make
sure
that
they
did
actually
meet
their
obligate
next
slide.
Please.
F
This
has
worked
very
well.
We've
received
again,
we
received
both
of
these
early
on.
We've
only
received
a
handful
in
the
last
couple
months.
I
think
most
facilities
have
have
adapted
to
the
to
the
issues
that
they
were
experiencing
with
shutdowns
and
travel
restrictions
were
being
realized
early
on
in
this
pandemic,
and
I
think
I'm
personally
very
pleased.
F
I
think
it
worked
out
really
well
and
I
think
we're
winding
down
now
and
most
most
facilities
are
back
where
they
need
to
be
so
with
that.
I
think
commissioner
hatton
is
going
to
wrap
it
up
with
the
wrap
up
the
regular
flexibility
with
the
next
two
slides
commission.
E
If
you
look
in
the
upper
left
hand
corner
of
that
slide,
you
see
the
subtitle
program
labors
and
extension,
but
early
on
as
issues
began,
to
become
complicated.
There
were
several
broad
overarching
problems
that
came
about
potential
problems
came
about
as
a
result
of
as
john
mentioned,
travel
restrictions
and
services
being
discontinued,
so
on
and
so
forth.
E
So
secretary
goodman
under
her
and
her
authority
under
chapter
39a,
issued
a
handful
of
what
we'll
call
across
the
board
regulatory
flexibility,
mainly
extension
requirements
within
the
regulated
arena
and
I'll
just
go
through
those
just
high
level.
E
And
obviously,
if
you
have
any
more
questions,
we
can
certainly
address
those
but
in
the
air
quality
world,
there's
a
test
coat
known
as
method
9,
which
is
a
training
class
that
allows
individuals
to
be
able
to
gauge
the
opacity
of
an
airstrike
commission
and,
as
you
might
not
expect
on
march,
first
many
of
those
annual
certifications
were
going
to
last
until
secretary
issued
an
extension
for
each
of
for
that
particular
issue
to
get
method.
9
training
send
it
out
to
july
1..
E
E
Regarding
solid
waste
management,
which
is
certainly
one
of
our
essential
services,
there
was
anticipated.
It
turns
out
it's
true
that
there
has
been
a
fairly
significant
increase
in
the
amount
of
solid
waste
being
generated
during
the
pandemic,
and
so
anticipating
that
and
having
conversations
with
those
in
the
solid
waste
disposal
management
industry.
E
The
secretary
issued
a
39a
determination
that
would
allow
assault
waste
facilities
to
extend
their
hours
of
operation
being
concerned
that,
with
the
additional
waste
coming
in,
they
would
need
to
be
able
to
operate
longer
hours
so
that
they
could
manage
disposal
cover
the
waste.
E
A
couple
other
ones
that
that
came
to
bear
is,
generally
speaking,
I
believe
it's
across
where
it's
required.
It's
across
the
board.
It's
may
1st
of
each
year.
Those
who
produce
transport
vehicle
fuel
are
required
by
may
1st,
to
get
the
particular
summer
mixed
gasoline
out
to
the
retailer,
and
that
would
be
gasoline
it's
lower
in
volatility.
It
has
a
lower
reef
or
deep
reef,
vapor
pressure
or
reformulated
gasoline.
E
Well,
the
issue
was,
as
the
pandemic
began,
to
come
to
bear
and
fewer
people
were
buying
gasoline
and
suddenly
had
a
blunt
of
winter,
gasoline
and
storage
tanks
at
these
refineries,
and
so
the
secretary,
in
accordance
with
epa,
issued
a
waiver
to
allow
the
continued
sale
of
that
winter
gasoline
so
that
storage
space
could
be
made
for
the
oncoming
summer
gasoline.
E
E
Perhaps,
in
the
worst
case
scenarios
we
have
issues
with
kelvin
and
those
are
very
important
people
who
treat
our
drinking
water
and
waste
water
and,
from
time
to
time
they
may
have
to
request
for
alternate
staffing
requirements
and,
instead
of
as
part
of
the
declaration
or
the
determination
secretary,
waive
the
requirement
to
get
agency
approval
but
simply
require
the
facility
to
give
us
notice
they're
going
to
implement
alternative
staffing
plans,
also
under
the
master
logger
program
over
the
department
of
natural
resources,
there's
a
temporary
master
logger
and
a
master
logger,
and
that
same
issue
with
annual
certifications.
E
Lapsing
came
into
play
until
the
secretary
made
the
determination
of
39a
to
extend
the
period
by
which
they
would
have
to
be
certified
until
august
of
this
year.
In
the
middle,
there
john's
already
talked
about
a
little
bit
of
request
for
directory
flexibility
requests.
It
is
worth
pointing
out.
I
think,
that
the
process
that
we
put
out
there,
the
form
and
the
process
and
making
sure
we're
documenting
these
things
is
not
just
for
for
the
agency
to
be
able
to
track
it,
but
it's
also
for
the
good
of
a
regulated
institute.
E
If,
at
some
point
in
time,
someone
may
take
an
issue
with
the
flexibility
request
that
it's
pretty
clear
documented,
they
did
what
they
did,
why
they
did
it
and
that
the
agency
can
curb
with
it.
As
john
said,
we've
been
extremely,
it's
been
an
extremely
smooth
process,
just
as
just
a
note
of
interest.
Most
of
the
regulatory
flexibility
requests
have
come
from
either
underground
storage
tank
owners
who
are
required
to
have
their
systems
tested
periodically
for
body
protection,
so
on
and
so
forth.
E
People
who
generate
hazardous
weight
having
to
store
it
longer
than
it
normally
would
because
the
receiving
facility
was
not
operating
that
coveted
19
regulatory
flexibility
committee.
We
anticipated
that
we
might
get
some
requests
that
were
really
complicated
and
that
we
needed
to
think
through
very
carefully.
So
we
established
the
committee
to
consider
any
of
those
if
we
did
in
fact
get
those
types
of
requests
which
we
did
not
john
mentioned.
E
The
pending
legal
actions
that
were
taken
into
epa
because
of
its
enforcement
discretion,
one
of
the
reasons
that
again,
that
we
developed
our
process
and
a
record
of
the
process
and
decision
making
was
to
be
able
to
defend
any
decision
that
we
made
and
then
inspections
investigations.
E
I
would
like
to
mention
again:
we
still
have
our
people
out
about
doing
their
job,
our
inspectors,
some
of
our
central
office
staff,
who
do
our
surface
water,
groundwater
monitoring,
some
of
our
superfund
staff,
are
out
doing
price
cleanups
and
we
continue
to
respond
to
emergencies
and
actually
have
responded
to
two
or
three
emergencies
during
the
pandemics.
So
if
we
can
move
on
to
the
next
slide
is
fairly
self-explanatory.
E
If
you're
interested
these
are
links
that
get
you
into
the
agency's
website.
Our
coven
web
page
regulatory
flexibility
request
application
the
guidance
policy
that
we
have
on
requesting
a
regulatory
determination
of
regulatory
flexibility
and
the
actual
email
site
where
you
submit
the
request.
So
at
this
point
in
time,
I'll
go
ahead
and
pass
it
on
over
to
corey
troutman.
Who
wants
to
discuss
some
of
the
budget
aspects
of
this
presentation.
C
So
the
breakdown
that
you
see
here,
we
have
our
spending
categories
on
the
left
and
then
we
also
show
our
various
fund
sources
within
the
department.
C
So
the
department
is
funded
with
general
federal,
restrictive
funds
and
then
also
a
minimal
amount
of
road
funds
as
well,
and
you
can
see
in
fy20
last
fiscal
year
we
had
121
million
expenditures
and
then
in
fy
21
we
have
budgeted
for
just
a
slight
increase
there,
with
million
in
expenditures
all
right.
If
you
could,
please
go
to
the
next
slide
all
right.
C
This
represents
the
staffing
level
within
the
department
over
the
last
few
years,
and
the
red
line
at
the
top
represents
our
authorized
task
for
the
department,
while
the
blue
bars
below
represent
the
average
number
of
field
positions
for
each
fiscal
year,
based
on
the
turnover
in
last
fiscal
year.
We
ended
up
with
about
31
vacancies
within
the
department
and,
as
you
can
see,
our
cap
in
fy
20
was
688
positions.
C
Those
are
full-time
positions
and
then
we
are
currently
working
with
the
office
of
state
budget
director
to
establish
our
caps
for
fy21,
which
will
be
slightly
lower
than
that
688.
Hopefully
we're
still
working
with
them
on
that
and
right
now
the
department
has
approximately
645
full-time
physicians
fields.
C
So
this
shows
our
covert
related
expenditures
in
last
fiscal
year,
dep
spent
approximately
22
600
on
increased
cleaning
supplies
and
computer-related
charges
dep
as
a
whole
contributed
a
significant
amount
of
resources
to
emergency
management
at
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic,
and
that
was
to
assist
in
the
daily
operations
at
the
emergency
command
center.
So
this
included
the
disbursement
of
personal
protective
equipment
and
cleaning
supplies
manning
the
warehouse
and
just
the
daily
operations
that
went
on
there.
C
We
ended
up
having
approximately
93
000
in
salary
tied
to
that
assistance
that
we
offer
and
then,
as
you
can,
as
I
mentioned,
you
know
we
had
about
twenty
two
thousand
just
spent
on
our
cleaning
supplies.
Computer
related
things,
so
those
costs
are
part
of
the
reimbursement
request
that
we
submitted
to
the
state
budget
director's
office
and
we're
working
with
them
to
get
that
approved
all
right.
If
you
could
please
go
to
slide
10..
C
we
have
just
a
relatively
small
increase
in
computer
costs
at
30
000,
and
that's
basically
due
to
the
fact
that
most
dep
staff
were
already
working
on
laptops
and
tablets
of
some
sort.
As
we've
mentioned
earlier
in
the
presentation
we
did
have
to
purchase
some
hotspots
and
vpns
for
our
staff,
but
most
everyone
were
already
working
on
the
computers,
the
laptops
and
the
tablets.
C
Sorry,
we
do
have
an
area
where
we
budgeted
additional
for
janitorial
contracts.
We
have
13
field
offices
located
throughout
the
commonwealth
and
we've
increased
the
scope
of
work
on
these
janitorial
contracts
to
cover
all
of
the
cdc
guidelines
and
additional
planning,
that's
necessary
in
those
offices
to
keep
our
employees
safe.
C
And
then
we
continue
to
supply
the
disinfectant
paper,
towels,
gloves,
sanitizer
and
when
possible.
Those
are
very
hard
to
get
our
hands
on
right
now,
but
we
supply
those
things
to
all
of
the
staff
working
in
the
office
as
well
as
those
working
in
their
vehicles
and
still
interacting
with
the
with
the
public.
C
A
So
I'll
start
off
with
mine
in
that
epa
memorandum
and
in
the
eec
policy
that
you
all
had
it
expired.
If
I'm
reading
correctly,
it
expired
it
or
will
expire
at
the
end
of
this
month.
Do
you
anticipate
that
it
will
be.
F
B
D
I
would
I
would
just
say
that
you
know
if
there's
a
real
need
for
it.
I
don't
think
we'd
have
any
any
problem
extending
it.
However,
the
request
for
regulatory
flexibility
has
fallen
off
to
the
point
that
I
don't
really
see
a
need
demonstrated
right
now.
I
think
they're,
just
trickling
in
we've,
possibly
got
maybe
two
or
three
over
the
last
few
weeks,
so
we
will
play
it
by
ear.
A
Okay,
along
those
lines,
if
a
waiver
was
requested
and
in
the
form
that
that
you
showed
on
your
slide,
you
needed
to
put
somebody
needed
to
put
down
a
date
of
the
end
of
it.
Is
there
any
plan
to
follow
up
and
make
sure
that,
as
of
that
date
or
after
that
date,
things
are
back
to
normal.
F
F
Thankfully,
that's
not
a
tremendous
volume,
as
tony
pointed
out,
we've
got
we
had
on
the
slide
73,
I
think
we've.
I
think,
we've
gotten
around
about
80
at
this
point.
E
Thank
you,
chairman
chairman
back
for
this,
commissioner.
We
have
already
performed
follow-up
inspections
on
several
of
these
facilities,
particularly
the
hazardous
voice,
generator
facility.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
we
were
doing
some
of
that
real
time
while
we
were
reviewing
the
regulatory
flexibility
request.
So
it's
a
good
question
and
absolutely
we
will
be
following
back
up
on
all
of
these,
some
of
which
we
already
have.
A
Thank
you.
I
know
there
haven't
been.
If
I'm
understanding
correctly,
there
haven't
been
that
many
requests
for
waivers
etc,
but
I'm
curious,
has
the
flexibility
been
been
successful,
haven't
seen
any
major
problems
or
any
problems
with
it
with
relaxing
some
of
the
regulations,
and
if
so,
is
there
a
way
that
these
temporary
waivers
can
be
made
permanent
with
what
you
all
can
do
as
opposed
to
what
the
federal
epa
requires.
E
Well,
for
example,
secretary
this
is,
commissioner,
I'm
sorry
chairman.
This
is
commissioner.
Many
of
the
flexibility
requests
is
related
to
underground
storage
bank,
the
underground
storage
bank
program.
A
E
The
way
that
program
works
is
the
tank
owner
is
responsible
for
maintaining
their
system
and
keeping
it
in
compliance.
If
there's
a
release
of
the
environment
for
that
tank
system,
then
a
petroleum
storage
tank
environmental
insurance
fund
have
to
kick
in
the
money
to
address
the
release,
the
the
cleanup
of
that
release.
E
So
if
someone
were
to
ask
for
regulatory
flexibility
to
have
their
product
protection,
testing
done
a
temporary
flexibility
to
allow
that
to
not
be
done
for
a
period
of
time
is
appropriate.
If
you
discontinue
the
requirements
to
do
that,
it
would
be
outside
the
federal
rule,
but
even
more
so
than
that
particularly
still
tanks,
that
don't
have
the
body
protection
or
likely
to
develop
leaks
and
releases.
E
They
have
found
that
it's
cheaper
and
more
economical
for
them
to
shift
their
waste
to
centralized
hazardous
waste
treatment,
centers
and
so
there's
really
not
a
framework
that
the
federal
state
rules
to
continue
to
allow
continued
accumulation
of
generated
hazardous
waste,
but
for
a
period
of
time,
if
it's
managed
safely
it's
that
it's
not
a
threat
to
a
healthy
environment.
It's
certainly
something
the
agency
believes
is
okay.
E
I
don't
see
any
instance
where
any
of
the
regulatory
flexibility
requests
that
we
have
granted
would
have
any
potential
for
a
long-term
release
of
a
of
a
requirement,
primarily
most
of
which
are
in
federal
regulation
and,
as
a
general
rule,
these
requirements
over
time.
The
agency
works
closely
with
people,
that
is,
that
it's
in
the
regulated
sector
and
they
have
become
simply
part
of
them,
doing
their
business,
and
so
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
see
any
temporary
request
that
might
result
in
some
long-term
relaxation
of
a
requirement.
E
A
Thank
you
on
slide
number
seven
in
both
the
fiscal
year,
20
actual
expenditures
and
the
fiscal
year,
21
budgeted
expenditures,
there's
a
line
that
says
other
personnel.
What
are
or
should
it
be?
What
is
other
personnel
can
that
be
defined.
C
Yes,
sir,
that's
that
includes
a
variety
of
different
items:
workers
pump
insurance
training,
some
of
our
I.t
contractors-
that
we
have
a
large
bulk
of
that
is
it's
federal.
We
have
like
three
points
around
close
to
four
million
in
federal,
and
that
is
all
pass-through
money
that
we
use
mainly
for
risk
mapping,
activities
for
math,
inundation
updates
and
that
sort
of
thing.
A
Okay,
slide
number
eight
talking
about
filled
positions.
You
know
average
personnel.
What
what
has
contributed
to
the.
E
Chairman
we
to
the
extent
that
we
possibly
can
we
want
to
maintain
our
staffing
than
we
have.
Of
course,
we
have
a
lot
of
young
folks
that
come
into
the
agency
who
stay
for
a
period
of
time.
We
invest
in
them
and
train.
They
leave
the
agency
for
higher
paying
jobs,
which
is
good
for
them.
E
It
keeps
us
awfully
busy
and
then,
on
the
other
end
of
the
spectrum
we
have.
A
lot
of
our
staff
has
entered
a
while
that
are
retiring.
We
sort
of
have
a
gap
in
the
middle
of
staff
that
have
been
here
for
some
mid-range
point
of
time,
because
a
fairly
significant
procedure,
very
young
folks,
are
only
here
for
a
period
of
time.
Of
course,
increases
in
retirement
have
have
also
resulted
in
the
agency
costs
for
personnel
to
increase,
and
therefore
we
have
in
within
our
budgeted
allotment
we've
had
to
make
adjustments
necessary.
E
We
continue
to
do
the
work
for
the
best
for
our
ability.
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
our
electronic
framework
is
crucial
to
our
success
and
that's
the
way
it
is
coming
in
a
lot
of
places
and
a
lot
of
things,
but
we've
had
to
to
modify
and
streamline
our
processes
to
be
able
to
continue
to
serve
our
mission
to
the
public
into
the
regulated
sector.
E
Corey
may
have
some
additional
actual
financial
pieces
that
may
may
add
to
that
response.
C
Well,
I
think
I
think
tony
usually
hits
it
now
on
the
head.
There.
We
are
passed
last
year,
as
you
can
see,
with
688
and,
like
we
mentioned
we're
going
to
try
to
keep
that
as
close
to
that
as
possible,
where
we've
submitted
our
pass
to
the
state
budget
director's
office
is
675,
I
believe
so
we
can.
We
can
fund
close
to
our
our
current
past
levels
or
our
previous
cap
levels
and
that's
what
we
are
going
to
strive
to.
A
All
right
on
slide
number
10.
You
talk
about
the
covid
fiscal
year,
21
expenditures.
Am
I
correct
in
that
these
costs
will
be
covered
by
the
budgeted
numbers
that
you
have
on
slide
number
seven.
C
A
A
I'll
just
leave
it
at
that.
I
want
to
thank
you
so
much
for
presenting.
I
really
appreciate
it.
I
know
the
committee
members
do
as
well
and
for
the
committee
members.
I
just
want
to
announce
that
the
next
meeting
will
be
september,
the
16th.