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A
Transportation
subcommittee
will
the
secretary
please
call
the
roll.
B
C
Yes,
ma'am
president
from
home
district.
B
A
We
do
have
a
quorum
to
do.
Business
first
thing
is
approval
of
our
minutes
from
july.
8Th
we
have
a
motion.
Is
second,
anyone
against
please
indicate
otherwise
minutes
have
been
approved.
Thank
you
all.
First
on
this
agenda
is
our
transportation
cabinet
year-end
report
and
I
believe
robin
brewer
will
be
joining
us.
D
Okay,
you
all
should
have
a
presentation,
hopefully
so
I'm
gonna
kind
of
let
you
all
know.
What's
going
on
as
I
go
so
that.
D
D
D
From
that
meeting,
the
cft
revised
the
revenue
estimate
for
the
road
fund,
which
resulted
in
a
revision
of
the
united
low
fund
resident
estimate
down
from
1
billion
hundred
fifty
one
million
eight
hundred
thousand
to
one
billion
three
hundred
ninety
million,
which
was
an
estimated
budget
source
of
161.8
million
dollars
or
ten
point.
Four
percent
shortfall
physically,
your
2020.
D
Fortunately,
road
fund
revenues
came
in
higher
than
the
revised
revenue
estimates
for
2020..
However,
it's
important
to
note
that
growth
and
revenue
still
came
in
well
under
the
official
enacted
revenue
estimate
in
which
the
budget
was
safe.
This
slide
shows
the
comparison
between
the
official
revenue
estimate
and
actual
road
fund.
This
was
your
24th.
D
First
term
collections
were
60.3
million
less
than
the
inactive
budget,
but
101.5
million
more
than
the
main
revised
estimate
due
to
reduced
spending
in
the
statutory
reduction
in
revenue
sharing
due
to
positive
1
and
motor
fuel
tax
revenue.
The
road
fund
budget
ended
with
a
minor
balance
of
140
000
for
the
year
side.
Five.
D
D
D
D
This
slide
shows
the
official
enacted
road
fund
revenue
estimate
of
one
billion
five
hundred
forty
three
million
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
fiscal
year,
2021,
for
which
the
budget
was
enacted.
In
april,
the
motor
fuel
tax
rate
has
been
set
against
the
statutory
floor
for
all
of
fiscal
year.
2021.
D
D
D
D
We
cannot
lose
sight
of
the
fact
that
we
collected
74.6
million
less
than
the
2020
than
we
did
fiscal
year
2019..
I
just
want
to
remind
everyone
that
this
is
a
revenue
stream
that
has
had
relatively
little
growth
for
many
years
and
a
motorcycle
tax
rate
that
has
been
successfully
flowing
since
the
end
of
fiscal
year
2015..
A
Thank
you
robin.
Do
we
have
any
members
that
have
any
questions
or
comments,
senator
higdon.
C
Thank
you
robin
for
your
report.
It's
always
good
to
have
you
with
us,
and
I
can't
remember
if
I've
seen
this,
it
might
already
be
out
july
figures
for
the
fuel
consumption
and
fuel
tax
we
on
target
for
for
that
for
july.
I
guess
that's
the
first
month
of
the
of
the
new
year.
D
A
A
Next
on
our
agenda
is
kentuckians
for
better
transportation.
Please
step
forward
mark
day
with
bluegrass
airport.
He
is
pitch
hitting
for
grant
gabbard
today
just
have
a
seat.
Please
identify
yourself
for
the
record.
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
coming
up
with
you
or
are
we
just.
E
Morning
my
name
is
mark
day,
I'm
the
director
of
development
and
facilities
for
the
lexington
bluegrass
airport,
and
I
recently
served
as
chair
for
kentuckians
for
better
transportation
and
we've
been
absent
from
being
here
with
you.
As
an
organization
for
the
last
year,
we've
had
undergone
some
leadership
change,
but
we
we
just.
E
We
want
to
spend
time
with
you
all
here
and
in
your
home
districts
and
in
our
home
districts
talking
about
transportation,
and
so
I
just
want
to
reintroduce
our
organization.
A
little
bit.
Kbt
was
founded
in
1977
by
a
group
of
individuals
and
we've
grown
to
over
300
members.
We
represent
aviation,
rail,
public
transit
highways,
roads,
bridges
and
river
ports
and
we
love
to
say
transportation
matters,
and
we
know
that
all
of
you
understand
that.
E
But
we
like
to
get
a
little
bit
in
the
weeds
and
talk
about
our
modes
and
talk
about
some
of
the
things
that
are
going
on.
We
appreciate
what
you
do
as
our
electric
representatives
and
it's
a
part
part
of
what
we
do
to
educate
you
guys
and
allow
you
to
ask
questions
about
our
various
modes.
A
few
of
us
had
the
opportunity
to
present
to
the
joint
committee
on
transportation
yesterday.
E
I
know
some
of
you
all
were
in
that,
so
we'll
be
bringing
some
other
leaders
to
you
today,
but
no
matter
what
mode
that
that
you
hear
from
in
our
organization.
One
of
the
things
as
one
of
the
airport,
guys
that
helps
to
what
we
do
at
kbt
is
everything
we
do
is
connected
by
roads
and
bridges
all
of
our
facilities.
E
My
airport,
a
river
port,
is
meaningless
if
we
can't
move
those
people
and
goods
across
the
roads
and
bridges
for
people
to
get
to
work,
to
move
the
goods
that
that
our
people
depend
on.
So
it's
how
our
economy
functions
and
it's
important
that
we
have
an
integrated
multi-modal
transportation
system
that
is
safe
and
efficient.
One
of
the
best
examples,
as
far
as
development
and
growth
here
in
our
state
is
what
amazon
is
doing:
their
expansion
in
northern
kentucky
at
our
cincinnati
northern
kentucky
airport.
E
Where
not
only
are
we
seeing
a
relatively
new
airline,
prime
air
cargo,
air,
the
airport
expansion,
all
the
roads
that
you're
in
take
care
of
that
and
the
buses?
The
transit
authority
of
northern
kentucky
that's
going
to
be
helping
to
move
employees
to
and
from
that
facility.
Our
mission
we
educate
and
we
advocate
for
transportation.
We
represent.
E
Of
transportation,
we're
interested
in
safety
sustainability
and
not
just
sustainability,
and
what
a
lot
of
people
think
of
and
how
things
are
constructed
and
used,
but
sustainability
in
the
long
term,
viability
of
that
of
that
transportation
system
and
that
that
fosters
economic
growth.
E
It
helps
me
and
my
family
and
my
staff
as
far
as
the
quality
of
life
in
our
in
our
communities
here
in
kentucky
and
again
with
over
300
members,
we're
represented
by
design
consultants,
local
governments,
cities
and
counties
facility
operators,
contractors,
chambers
of
commerce
and
we're
one
of
the
founding
members
of
another
group.
The
kentucky
infrastructure
coalition
which
you
may
have
heard
of
and
because
we're
broadening
the
scope
just
beyond
transportation
as
well.
E
But
we
again
we
just
not
trying
to
sound
the
alarm,
but
I
believe
a
lot
of
you
are
already
aware
of
there's
a
threat
to
our
transportation
network
and
it's
in
funding
and
funding
affects
safety,
and
it
also
affects
growth.
E
I
was
going
to
quote
senator
higdon
on
something
he
said
yesterday,
but
it's
it's
important
that
you
don't
put
words
in
the
mouth
of
elected
officials,
but
he
made
reference
yesterday
in
in
the
other
committee
about
the
the
because
of
the
drop
in
the
wholesale
revenues
of
gas
that
over
five
years
about
a
billion
dollars
in
shortfall-
and
I
believe
you
said
something
along
the
lines
of
we
can
look
around
our
pavements
every
day
and
see
where
that
billion
dollars
was
not
spent.
E
Is
that
okay,
all
right
but
anyway,
so
we're
here
today
just
to
share
and
I'll
introduce
some
of
my
fellow
members
I'm
actually
going
to
let
them
introduce
themselves
as
they
come
up,
but
again
one
of
the
things
that
I
also
just
want
to
encourage
you,
as
back
home
with
groups
that
you're
a
part
of
chambers
etc.
E
We
would
just
really
want
to
offer
that
kbt
be
a
resource
to
you.
Kbt.Net
is
our
dot.
Org
is
our
website,
but
several
of
you,
representative
santoro,
senator
hickman.
I
know
you
guys
are
very
familiar
with
organization
representative
up
church.
I
know
you've
spoken
at
our
conference
and
we
just
really
appreciate
you
guys,
but
we
want
to
be
there
for
you
as
well.
E
So
if
you
need
folks
to
speak
on
any
transportation
issue
and
back
home,
let
us
be
a
part
of
that
we're
happy
to
to
educate
and
advocate
at
any
anywhere
that
we
can
in
the
state.
So
with
that,
I'm
gonna
step
out
of
the
way
and
let
some
of
the
smarter
folks
in
our
organization
before.
A
You
step
down.
Does
anyone
have
a
question
comment
for
mark?
I
just
you,
don't
have
to
give
me
numbers,
but
since
the
cove
hit,
I
know
our
air
travels
down
at
your
airport,
just
a
percentage
or
no
comment.
E
Yeah,
it's
it's!
It's
it's
tough
times.
Okay,
people,
rightfully
so
are
afraid
to
fly
we'll
say
for
my
airport,
our
numbers
take
the
month
of
july.
E
We
we
were
excited
that
we
hit
30
compared
to
july
of
last
year,
and
the
business
traveler
for
my
airport
is
our
bread
and
butter
and
allegiant
as
a
vacation
airline
used
to
be
about
20
percent
of
my
market
right
now
they
are
my
number
one
carrier,
so
the
the
individuals
families
flying
for
vacations
that
number,
while
it's
down
some,
is
not
down
as
much,
but
the
business
traveler
is
absent:
delta,
american
and
united
southwest
all
these
major
carriers,
they've
they've,
shrunk
their
their
business
because
nobody's
buying
tickets
right
now,
conferences
are
not
a
thing.
E
Business
travel
is
scaled
back.
International
travel
is
not
a
thing,
and
so,
as
far
as
our
industry
experts
and
who's,
an
expert
in
forecasting
these
days,
they're
saying
that
for
the
aviation
industry
outside
of
cargo,
I'm
just
from
passenger
travel
that
it
may
take
us
three
to
five
years
to
come
back
to
where
we
were
in
february
or
2019
numbers
and
but
cargo
cargo's
doing
well,
cvg
and
louisville.
E
I'm
just
I'm
amazed
at
what
they
continue
to
do
with
ups
dhl
and
now,
amazon,
the
general
aviation
airports
which,
as
you
all
may
or
may
not
be
where
we
have
55
general
aviation
airports
here
in
our
state
that
they
don't
have
commercial
air
service
and
those
folks,
their
their
business
models
are
being
impacted
as
well.
In
varying
ways,
flight
schools
are
up
if
they
have
business
headquarters
in
their
community.
Those
numbers
have
been
the
same,
so
it
just
it
varies
by
market.
E
A
Very
good,
thank
you
for
that.
I
don't
know
who's
next.
It's
the
andrew,
come
on
up
andrew
aiello.
Just
have
a
seat
for
the
record.
Give
us
your
name
and
begin
your
testimony.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
My
name
is
andrew
aiello
and
I'm
the
general
manager
of
the
transit
authority
of
northern
kentucky
thanks
mr
day
for
leading
us
today.
As
you
can
see,
this
is
a
multimodal
group
and,
as
mr
day
said,
we
all
have
networks
together
different
modes,
pull
together
to
make
our
economy
work.
My
job
today
is
again
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
overview
public
transportation.
I
know
I've
had
the
privilege
of
speaking
in
front
of
this
committee
before
in
kentucky.
F
F
You
can
see
on
the
next
slide
that
we
provide
collectively
more
than
30
million
trips
a
year
and
those
are
trips
to
places
like
health
care
to
school
and
to
jobs.
On
the
workforce
front,
we
provide
over
11
million
work
based
trips
a
year.
F
I
did
want
to
speak
to
something
that
that
chairman
santoro
mentioned
is
what
has
been
the
impact
of
kova
19
on
the
public
transportation
industry.
As
you
all
know,
transit
along
with
the
other
modes
were
deemed
an
essential
service
at
the
outset
of
the
pandemic,
meaning
that
we
needed
to
keep
operating,
and
we
did
do
that.
F
All
of
the
things
that
if
we
were
fortunate
enough
to
stay
home
and
have
things
delivered
to
us,
there
were
people
out
working
to
make
sure
that
that
happened.
Folks
that
work
in
hospitals,
public
transportation
is
the
sole
mode
of
transportation.
For
a
lot
of
those
folks
who
kept
our
econom
economy
running
during
the
shutdown.
F
Also,
it
is
the
primary
source
of
transportation
for
many
people
to
access
essential
services
like
going
to
the
grocery
store
or
getting
to
their
dialysis
appointments
or
cancer
treatments
or
other
medical
care.
So
we
have
not
stopped
operating
and
I
can
say
that
for
all
the
other
transit
systems
in
the
commonwealth,
we've
had
to
keep
operating
to
keep
that
lifeline
going.
F
One
of
the
very
curious
things
about
the
pandemic
is
that
the
business
model
for
public
transportation
is
most
efficient
when
we
have
a
whole
lot
of
people
on
one
vehicle
right.
You
can
imagine
when
you're
trying
to
operate
a
business
like
this,
if
you
can
get
45
people
into
a
40-foot
bus
with
one
driver
that
that's
a
high
efficiency
in
terms
of
moving
people
effectively,
we
can't
put
45
people
into
a
vehicle
right
now
we're
having
to
put
two
and
sometimes
three
vehicles
to
spread
out
loads.
F
F
That
is
also
not
spread
equally,
those
routes
that
serve
major
employers
like
cbg
and
amazon,
and
the
hospitals
they're
only
down
15
percent,
whereas
the
routes
that
serve
maybe
folks,
that
work
in
an
office
building
kind
of
the
nine
to
five,
maybe
white,
collar
worker.
Those
routes
are
the
inverse
and
they're
down
85
percent.
So
it
has
been
a
very
wild
ride
for
your
public
transportation
systems
here
in
the
commonwealth,
but
they
continue
to
do
great
work
from
a
funding
perspective.
F
Again,
we've
talked
to
this
committee
quite
a
bit
about
this.
When
we
look
at
surrounding
states,
ohio,
indiana
tennessee,
those
states
are
investing
five
to
15
times
more
per
capita
in
public
transit
than
kentucky,
and
that's
not
that
that's
the
order
of
magnitude.
It's
not
5
to
15
it's
5
to
15
times
per
capita
than
we
are
in
kentucky
in
the
fiscal
21
budget.
There
were
vw
settlement
funds
that
were
allocated,
and
that
was
a
huge
help
to
transit
systems
throughout
the
state
and
they're
using
those
funds
to
match
bus
purchases.
F
If
you
remember,
vw
was
about
vehicles
and
emissions
and
those
funds
are
being
used
to
match
federal
funds
to
replace
aging
and
retired
vehicles.
So
that
has
been
a
huge
help
when
we
thank
the
general
assembly
for
that,
the
draft
fiscal
21
budget
included
eight
million
dollars
to
basically
fix
what
we
were
calling
our
total
credit
crisis,
you're
all
familiar
with
toll
credits,
how
they
have
expired
from
a
public
transportation
perspective.
F
There
was
a
need
to
replace
those
toll
credits
with
real
money,
so
we
can
continue
to
pull
federal
funds
into
the
state
that
was
accomplished
in
the
draft
budget,
but
again
in
march,
when
things
shut
down
that
did
not
survive
the
final
budget,
so
we
still
want
to
keep
this
in
front
of
the
general
assembly.
It's
an
important
issue
and
right
now,
as
it
stands,
there's
no
long-term
solution
to
this
lack
of
toll
credits.
I
have
a
couple
quick,
slides
that
just
graphically
show
you
the
impact.
F
I
can
give
you
just
a
general
overview:
there
are
about
30
to
40
million
dollars
from
the
federal
government
from
usdot
federal
transit
administration
that
come
into
the
commonwealth
every
year
in
2019.
The
way
those
funds
were
matched
you're.
All
aware
that
a
lot
of
federal
funds
require
like
an
80
20
match,
they
require
20,
match
to
pull
them
down
and
to
use
them
in
2019.
The
way
they
were
matched
is,
if
you
consider
40
million
dollars,
you
need
a
10
million
dollar
match.
F
With
toll
credits
being
gone,
we
only
have
two
million
dollars
of
state
money
to
pull
down
30
to
40
million
dollars
of
federal,
so
that
federal
money,
two-thirds
of
that
is
frozen
and
won't
get
pulled
into
the
state
in
the
short
term.
I
think
agencies
are
using.
The
federal
cares
act,
money
to
bridge
the
gap.
They
are
looking
at
cutting
service,
so
they
can
provide
that
match
and
they're
trying
to
be
creative.
F
In
the
long
term,
there
will
need
to
be
general
fund
allocation
in
order
to
continue
those
federal
funds
flowing
into
the
state.
So
that's,
as
you
have
very
difficult
decisions
to
make
in
the
next
biennium
in
the
next
budget
year,
we
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
we
were
communicating
with
you
all
about
where
we
stand,
and
if
you
have
questions,
of
course,
you
can
get
in
touch
with
mark
with
myself
or
anybody
else
in
the
public
transportation
world.
A
No
questions
very
good
presentation
thanks
for
coming
down
next
is
chuck
craycraft.
If
you
would
come
in,
please.
A
A
G
I'm
chuck
cray
craft,
I'm
senior
vice
president
with
h.w
lochner
consulting
engineers,
we're
a
national
civil
engineering,
firm
specializing
in
transportation
issues,
design,
construction
and
management
and
we're
based
in
lexington
here
in
kentucky
and
have
been
in
kentucky
for
almost
50
years
now.
Some
of
our
projects
include
paris,
pike
design,
the
east
approach
to
louisville
bridges,
project
up
to
right-of-way
plans
and
I-75
realignment
in
northern
kentucky
the
hill
leading
to
the
brent
spence
bridge.
G
Around
mid
2010s
fracking
became
much
more
prevalent.
The
technology
for
extracting
petroleum
products
out
of
the
ground
improved
and
the
united
states
basically
became
energy
independent
well
consequence
of
that
was
price
of
gasoline
went
down
and
because
kentucky's
gas
taxes
based
upon
the
average
wholesale
price,
it
also
went
down
matching
that
fall
and
so
january
1st.
The
price
declined
four
and
a
half
cents
january
1st
2015,
and
then
that
was
going
to
be
followed
by
another
significant
drop
of
with
the
next
quarter's
wholesale
prices.
G
Ultimately,
it
resulted
in
the
six
and
a
half
cent
per
gallon
reduction
of
gas
tax
that
kentucky
collects,
as
senator
you
noted
yesterday
and
earlier
today,
in
robin's
presentation,
which
cost
us
about
200
million
dollars
a
year
that
could
otherwise
be
used
for
transportation
projects
since
that
time
of
again
five
years,
that's
a
billion
dollars
of
lost
transportation.
Funding
that
we've
had
so
that's
a
big
hit
to
our
to
our
revenue
source.
G
Another
hit
that's
taken
place
are
the
corporate
average
fuel
economy
standards
that
the
federal
government
imposes
upon
car
manufacturers
and
that's
commonly
referred
to
as
cafe
standards.
The
acronym
cafe
in
2015,
the
cafe
standards
required
cars
to
get
about
33
miles
per
gallon
and
in
2019
that
requirement
had
increased
to
39
miles
per
gallon.
Now,
that's
not
to
say
every
car
got
that
gas
economy,
but
I
use
those
figures
to
show
the
increase
in
fuel
economy
over
that
five-year
period.
So
taking
that
five
years
into
account.
G
That's
about
a
13
increase
of
fuel
economy
which
results
all
things
being
equal
with
the
miles
driven
around
160
million
dollars
of
reduced
revenue
available
through
the
gas
tax
just
from
fuel
economy.
All
of
us
are
in
favor
of
having
more
economical
vehicles,
it's
good
for
the
environment,
it's
good
for
people
at
home.
It's
just
a
good
thing,
but
we
have
to
pay
for
our
roads
some
way,
and
that
is
a
major
loss,
again
160
million,
so
we
got
200
million
from
taxes.
We've
got
160
million
from
fuel
economy
increases.
G
Since
that
time,
the
construction
cost
has
increased
about
16
so
for
the
same
amount
of
money,
we're
getting
about
16,
less
product
being
constructed
over
that
time.
So
there's
another
roughly
150
million
dollars
lost
purchasing
power
and
then
the
other
thing
that
we're
dealing
with
again,
it's
in
terms
of
economy,
alternative
fuel
vehicles,
which
include
hybrids
as
well
as
completely
electronic
vehicles
like
the
tesla's
and
the
chevy
volts,
and
some
other
vehicles
are
becoming
increasingly
popular.
G
The
automobile
manufacturers
use
these
to
help
reach
their
cafe
standards,
but
that
is
a
problem
with
revenue
in
that
hybrids,
pay
less
gas
tax
for
an
equivalent
use
of
the
roads
and
electric
vehicles,
of
course,
pay
no
gas
tax
because
they
are
not
funded.
They
don't
run
on
gas.
So
I
can't
quantify.
I
looked
around
for
some
numbers
to
help
me
quantify
that
I
was
not
able
to
find
reliable
numbers
that
I
wanted
to
present
today,
albeit
we
can
say
that
they
are
having
an
impact
on
on
the
revenue
available
to
us.
G
So
with
that,
mr
chairman,
that's
that's
my
presentation
from
memory.
A
A
C
Since
you
touched
on
electric
vehicles,
I
had
a
meeting
and
my
staff
assistant,
laura
beth,
long
worked
on
some
information
on
electric
vehicles
and
I
just
shared
with
everybody
currently
right
now
that
there's
15
1500
totally
electric
vehicles
in
kentucky
34
500-
I
guess
hybrid
vehicles,
but
they
project
by
2030
that
there
be
450,
000
electric
vehicles
in
kentucky
and
that's
not
that
far
off.
So
that's
a
so
we
we
have
to.
We
have
to
close
that
gap
and
deal
with
that
issue,
because
right
now
we
only
have
to
deal
with
1500
people.
A
Well
said
I
mean
it's
just
keeps
getting
the
bigger
and
bigger
and
the
pie
gets
smaller
and
smaller
for
funding.
Because
of
that
I
understand,
do
any
of
our
members
remotely
have
anything
to
comment
on.
If
not.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation.
A
H
H
H
H
In
1986,
tennessee,
governor
lamar,
alexander
and
speaker,
ned
mcwhorter
crafted
an
800
million
dollar
plan
to
four-lane
roads
across
the
state
without
debt
inspired
some
four
years
later,
kentucky
passed
our
500
million
dollar
road
bond
program,
which
included
the
four-lane
us-127
into
frankfort.
Many
of
you
enjoy
and
four-lane
us-68
may
finally
finish
this
year,
although
it
was
touted
that
investment
in
roads
provides
five
dollars
and
eighty
cents
for
every
one
dollar
spent
in
construction
with
kentucky's,
slimmer
financial
position
30
years
ago
that
took
leadership
today.
H
The
road
bond
signs
that
were
worn
around
here
have
been
replaced
by
this
one:
better
roads,
equal,
better
jobs.
I
know
all
of
you
have
seen
these.
The
kentucky
infrastructure
coalition
has
been
going
with
this
theme
now
for
the
past
year
and
obviously
it's
something
that
I'm
sure
you'll
see
come
january.
H
For
example,
chairman
santoro,
as
you
asked
earlier
this
morning
of
the
I-69
ohio
river
crossing
in
henderson,
is
nearing
the
completion
of
its
environmental
impact
statement
process
to
await
a
record
of
decision
clearing
the
way
for
construction.
Will.
The
eis
remain
unsigned,
like
its
predecessor
20
years
ago,
over
concerns
of
kentucky
being
able
to
afford
our
side
of
the
agreement.
H
As
you
all
know,
each
center
of
the
motor
fuels
tax
raises
about
30
million
dollars
in
funds
with
the
wholesale
floor
26
cents.
Currently
in
kentucky
22.2
percent
of
the
motor
fuels
tax
kytc
uses
for
12
760
miles
of
rural
secondary
18.3
percent
is
for
county
roads.
7.7
percent
is
for
urban
roads
or
streets
for
465
municipalities,
although
we're
down
to
about
30
miles
of
unpaved
roads
currently
in
christian
county,
it's
the
second
largest
in
area
and
like
many
local
governments,
faces
a
projected
schedule
of
many
decades
for
necessary
maintenance.
H
This
year
our
road
funds
have
been
cut.
12.27
percent
compounding
our
problem.
Other
revenues
are
falling,
such
as
the
transit
room
tax
by
28
and
funds
are
declining,
such
as
the
jail
cash
balance
by
four
hundred.
Ninety
three
thousand
six
hundred
eighty
eight
dollars
and
thirty
eight
cents
or
fifty
three
percent
legislative
action
to
permit
local
adoption
of
a
restaurant
tax
or
a
liquor
tax
could
plug
some
holes
by
raising
as
much
as
half
a
million
dollars.
H
Additionally,
we
are
constrained
in
our
ability
to
take
advantage
of
a
significant
current
trend.
As
the
national
association
of
counties,
transportation
policy
steering
committee
highway,
highway
safety
vice
chair,
I've
become
aware
of
other
states
or
localities
saving
as
much
as
27
percent
or
more
in
material
costs.
H
Where
funding
is
available
for
action.
It's
been
said
that
there
are
more
local
governments,
making
revenue
transfers
to
transportation
than
can
be
remembered.
One
mayor
pointed
to
their
shift
of
a
million
dollars,
noting
that
it
is
somewhat
offset
by
cares
funds
this
year.
It
was
quickly
added,
but
what
about
next
year?
H
A
Thank
you,
john.
This
is
a
great
presentation
for
us.
You
know
in
we
know
the
biggest
problem
here
is
our
counties,
and
our
cities
are
just
hurting.
Also,
do
we
have
any
members
have
anything
to
say,
representative
harris.
I
Mr
chairman,
I
just
want
to
say,
as
a
coming
from
an
area
that
has
struggled
with
not
well,
we
struggle
with
transportation
infrastructure
as
well,
but
particularly
martin
county
with
the
water
issue.
Yes,
sir,
I
think
the
same
principles
apply.
I
I
mean
we
can
learn
lessons
from
what
has
happened
there
in
martin
county
with
the
water
infrastructure,
with
our
statewide
transportation
infrastructure.
If
we
don't
keep
up
and
maintain
that
infrastructure,
maintain
those
bridges
and
roads
and
invest
in
the
future
of
maintenance,
not
just
new
projects,
not
just
new
roads
and
new
buildings,
but
maintaining
the
old
there's.
A
real
lesson
to
learn
there
with
the
martin
county
water
situation
is
that
if
we
don't
do
that,
we
don't
spend
the
money
and
invest
in
that
maintenance.
I
A
You
very
good
comments.
It's
I
always
say
it's
just
like
your
house,
you
put
a
roof
on
you,
build
a
new
house.
20
years
later,
you
better
be
ready
to
replace
it,
and
our
infrastructure
needs
maintenance.
We
learned
that
from
the
old
days
when
we
had
the
tolls
on
the
bluegrass,
it
wasn't
for
maintenance
was
just
to
build
the
road
and.
D
A
That's
what
we
need.
We
need
funding
for
it.
You
know
this.
Someone
commented
first
time.
Kbt
has
been
our
meeting
in
several
years
two
years.
You
know
we
need
this
information.
It
was
great
presentation.
A
Thank
you
all
for
coming
we're
going
to
continue
working
on
these
issues
that
we
have,
because
if
we
can't
get
people
to
work
to
school
to
church
and
what
are
we
doing
and
we're
with
you,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation.
Thank
you,
mr
you're.
Welcome
to
stay
or
take
off
or
do
what
you
need
to
do.
Our
next
presentation
is
the
louisville
bridges,
megan
mclean.
B
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
having
me
I'm
megan
mclean,
I'm
the
innovative
finance
manager
for
the
kentucky
transportation
cabinet.
I
deal.
B
Louisville
bridges,
projects
and
other
computer-related
projects.
You
guys
had
asked
me
to
provide
an
update
on
the
impacts
of
focus
19
on
the
progress
for
our
procurement
to
replace
our
current
full
services
provider.
B
Sure
things
have
improved
a
lot
since
kovitz
first
hit
back
in
april,
traffic
was
down
more
than
50.
Now
it's
from
2019.
Now
it's
down
about
15
to
20
since
2019.,
so
it
is
improving
drastically
as
we've
gone
back
to
healthy
at
work.
B
B
We
stopped
adding
fees
to
invoices
so
that
for
fear
that
our
unbanked
population
would
not
be
able
to
pay
the
invoices
on
time,
so
we
reopened
our
walk-up
centers
on
july
22nd
and
we
started
aging
our
invoices
and
charging
fees
again
on
august
3rd.
So
those
those
two
items
have
caused,
along
with
the
improvement
in
traffic,
has
caused
revenue
to
start
to
impact
year.
2020
we
collected
about
93
of
what
we
were
projected
to
collect
so
and
then
on
top
of
that.
B
Million
we
are,
firstly,
2020
things
were
pretty
pretty
much
okay
for
fiscal
year
2021
we
do
expect
a
larger
impact.
B
The
best
I
can
do
is
guess
how
how
long
things
will
have
well,
we
will
have
reduced
income
and
reduced
revenue
from
the
copa
19
impact,
and,
given
my
best
guess,
I
I'm
thinking
we
should
be
right
around
70
percent
of
subjective
revenue
and
all
of
that's
important,
because
all
this
money
that
we
we
collect
from
from
polls
goes
to
pay
our
bondholders,
from
whom
we
borrowed
the
money
to
build
the
bridges,
including
a.
A
B
Maintenance
expenses
in
that
project
area
in
the
louisville
area,
as
well
as
maintenance
and
operational
system
itself,
given
that
we
looked
ahead
and
did
what
we're
calling
a
stress
test
and
if,
unless
our
guest
is
far
off,
we
should
there's
we,
while
we
will
have
to
dip
into
some
general
reserve
accounts,
we
we
will
have
enough
to
cover
our
bond
payments
and
our
operations
and
maintenance
expenses.
B
That's
what
I
have
on
the
kovid
19
impact.
Can
I
stop
for
questions
there
before
I
move
to
the
next.
B
Thank
you.
We
are
in
the
process
of
preparing
a
new
full
services
provider.
Our
personal
service
provider
contract
expires
in
december
of
2023.
It
takes
at
least
a
year
to
set
up
a
new
back
office
system
and
customer
service.
B
2021,
or
at
least
sometime
in
the
summer,
this
new
contract
will
be
for
the
back
office
system
in
the
customer
service
center,
our
roadside
contract
for
the
the
cameras
and
the
loops
and
the
turtles
that
that
are
at
the
roadway
that
will
stay
with
the
current
vendor
for
another
two
years.
B
There
will
be
an
extension
there,
we're
splitting
those
pieces
out
to
increase
competition
and
make
sure
that
as
many
people
as
possible,
we'll
have
a
chance
to
as
many
companies
as
possible
have
a
chance
to
give
us
a
bid
and
hopefully
give
us
some
great
new
ideas.
We
are
finalizing
the
rsp
now.
B
Having
an
industry
reform
and
gender
meeting
september
and
we'll
publish
the
final
rsvp
in
early
fall
with
proposals
to
do
this
winter,
and
that
should
that
should
set
us
up
to
make
some
improvements
and
capitalize
on
lessons
learned.
So
we're
excited
about
that
new
development.
B
So
the
last
topic
was
an
outstanding
lawsuit
and
I
can't
say
too
much
about
that,
because
it
is
ongoing
litigation.
There
is
litigation
where
none
of
the
state's
parties
have
been
named.
Kycc
hasn't
been
named,
it
hasn't
been
named.
It's
in
the
united
states
district
court
in
the
southern
district
of
indiana,
it's
being
handled
any
of
any
effects
on
the
state
which
we
don't
know
that
there
will
be
any
are
being
handled
by
the
kycc
office
of
legal
services
and
outside
counsel,
in
conjunction
with
the
attorneys
from
indot
and
ifa.
B
I
probably
can't
answer
too
many
questions
on
that.
That's
probably
the
most
I
can
say
on
ongoing
litigation,
but
I
can
go
back
and
if
there
are
any
questions
about
the
the
new
procurement,
I'm
happy
to
take
those.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Senator
higdon
has
a
question.
C
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that
report
always
interesting
to
hear
about
the
louisville
bridges
early
on
and
some
years
back
you
with
the
vendor.
The
with
the
cameras
are
having
problem
capturing
certain
license
plates,
and
I
was
just
wondering
get
an
update
on
that
and
and
what
percentage
of
the
vehicle
traffic
do
you
actually
capture
now,
as
far
as
being
able
to
associate
a
person
with
a
vehicle.
B
Sure
so,
in
terms
of
being
able
to
capture
a
picture
of
the
vehicle
we're
at
99,
then
after
that
there
is
a
process
by
which
human
beings
look
at
the
license
plate
and
identify
the
jurisdiction
and
the
license
plate
number
there
are.
We
are
still,
I
think,
the
code
off
number
for
that,
it's
still
at
around
30
and
then
after
that,
then
we
have
to
go.
So
if
it's
in
tucker
indiana,
we
go
to
the
motor
vehicle
department
here.
D
B
Of
motor
vehicles
for
indiana
and
find
out
who
the
owner
is,
if
it's
out
of
state,
we
pay
a
company
called
dunkin
to
provide
us
that
registered
owner
information,
and
there
are
a
few
more
that
fall
out
at
that
point,
so
the
cameras
are
working
wonderfully.
There
are
some
processes.
After
that,
that
means
we
can't
send
a
bill
to
everyone
to
cross
the
road.
B
However,
given
the
responders-
and
I
I
don't
have
the
exact
system,
but
it
is
a
very
high
percentage
of
vehicles
that
are
charged,
but
it's
definitely
not
all
of
them,
despite
having
images
of
nearly
all
of.
C
Them
it
would
be
interesting
to
know
that
you
know
the
percentage
of
what
we
actually
get
paid
for.
It's
that
it
would
be
good
information
to
have
okay,
if
you
don't
mind
that
and
get
that
number
for
you.
And
what
do
you
do?
Do
you
ever
write
any
of
these
tolls
off
that
someone
owes
or
do
they
they
go
on
to
continue
to?
B
Sure
so
we
don't
track
interest
on
outstanding
balances.
There
are
three
different
fees
that
get
charged
if
someone's
not
pay
and
then
at
that
point
in
visiting
indiana
we
placed
a
hold
on
the
vehicle
registration.
We
don't.
D
B
That
hold
on
the
vehicle
registration
until
the
until
the
poll
is
safe.
If
that
vehicle
is
no
longer
having
registration,
renewed
or
cases
ownership,
then
that
would
go
away.
But
so
we
do
write.
D
B
The
amount
for
purposes
of
financial
reporting
when,
when
things
are
old
and
we
don't
expect
to
be
able
to
collect
on
the
receivable,
we
do
write
it
off,
but
it
is
still
alive
in
our
system
and
we
can
still
collect
money
on
the
account
and
we
do
still.
C
Mind
just
so
what
what
is
your
receivables?
And
I
guess
you
have
two
different
receivables-
those
that
are
good
and
the
past
due
receivables.
What
would
the
past
do
be?.
B
We
are
working
on
collecting
that
number
right
now
for
our
year
end,
if
it's
okay,
I'll
just
keep
that
number
just
as
soon
as
we
we
do
that
we're
preparing
that
number
actively
for
for
our
kafka
here
in
the
next
little
bit.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Does
any
other
member
present
what
about
remotely
do?
We
have
any
questions
or
comments
megan.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation
these.
This
is
some
new
concept.
You
know
the
the
bridges
we
need
to
keep
up
on
that
because
we're
going
to
be
the
ones
that
you're
going
to
come
to
if
there
is
ever
a
big
problem.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
presenting,
if
not
yes,
ma'am,
if
not
we'll,
entertain
the
motion
to
adjourn
so
move,
we
are
adjourned.
Thank
you.
All.