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A
In
person
with
the
the
folks
out
there
in
the
crowd
and
everything
it's
good
to
be
through
this
glad
to
have
all
the
members
here
in
attendance
in
person
and
the
ones
that
are
are
not
in
person
dennis
glad
to
see
you,
and
so
with
that
I
had
the
secretary
call
the
roll.
C
C
B
C
D
D
A
C
Let's
pray,
lord,
we
come
to
you
today,
lord.
We
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
gather
here
at
the
capitol
lord
to
do
the
people's
work
and
lord
you've
put
us
all
here
for
a
special
reason.
Lord
and
I
pray
that
we
do
things
that
honor
and
glorify
you
and
lord.
We
are
mourning
the
loss
of
a
great
friend
of
a
colleague,
senator
buford,
lord.
We
pray
for
his
family.
Well,
we
pray
for
the
people
of
this
body
who
were
close
friends
with
him
and
lord.
C
We
thank
you
for
him
and
his
service
to
the
state
of
kentucky
we're
going
to
miss
him
greatly,
the
lord
most
of
all,
because
of
your
death
on
a
cross
and
resurrection
of
a
grave
lord
god.
We
know
that
eternal
life
is
ours
with
a
relationship
with
you,
lord
and
I
pray
that
lord
you
get
the
glory
for
everything
we
do
today.
These
things
in
your
name,
amen,
amen,.
A
A
Well,
once
again,
I'd
like
to
welcome
everybody
here
today
and
pleased
to
have
with
us
today
on
our
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
derek
lines
and
christy
putnam
from
app
harvest.
If
I
could
have
you
all,
come.
A
E
Yes,
good
morning,
happy
thursday,
we
are
also
very
pleased
to
be
here
in
person
today.
My
name
is
christy
putnam
and
I
am
the
chief
of
staff
for
app
harvest.
We've
had
a.
A
C
A
F
B
A
E
That's
okay,
so
we've
had
a
staff
substitution,
so
we're
subbing
in
we
made
an
audible
call
this
morning.
So
I'd
like
to
have
my
colleague
from
app
harvest
introduce
himself
as
well.
G
E
This
is
the
first
time
I've
appeared
before
this
committee.
I
used
to
frequently
appear
before
committees,
in
my
capacity
at
the
cabinet
for
health
and
family
services,
and
so
some
people
may
say.
Well
how
do
you
go
from
human
services
to
an
agriculture
role?
E
I'm
going
to
walk
through
a
presentation
just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
what
we
are
doing,
what
we
have
been
doing
and
what
we're
up
to
next
to
show
you
just
how
much
impact
the
agricultural
industry-
and
this
is
no
secret
to
all
of
you-
has
on
our
human
services,
our
people
of
kentucky
and
the
potential
to
bring
a
robust
revolution
to
our
economy.
Here
in
the
commonwealth,
we
are
a
very
young
company,
we're
a
little
over
a
year.
E
Old
matt
is
one
of
the
original
five
members
of
the
app
harvest
team
and
we've
done
a
lot
in
a
very
short
period
of
time
and
I
personally
joined
because
I
see
the
potential
in
really
and
I'm
going
to
be
a
little
bit
dramatic
here.
So
please
forgive
me,
but
I
see
the
potential
of
this
industry
not
just
app
harvest
but
the
ag
tech
industry
to
really
change
the
trajectory
of
eastern
kentucky
appalachia
and
kentucky
as
a
whole.
E
So
we're
going
to
walk
through
why
we
believe
that
what
we've
done
and
then
leave
some
time
at
the
end
for
questions.
But
matt
did
you
want
to.
E
Right
so
we
are
focused
on
building
a
resilient
food
system
for
america
in
appalachia
focused
in
kentucky.
We've
started
our
buildings
in
kentucky,
but
you
know
we
really
are
focused
on
the
appalachian
regional
commission
region,
consisting
of
13
states
and
420
counties,
total
420
counties.
We
are
in
an
agriculture
crisis.
E
We
need
to
start
producing
much
more
food
than
we
currently
are.
The
u.n
has
predicted
that
the
world
will
need
at
least
50
more
food
by
2050,
but
and
right
now,
70
of
all
rain
water.
All
fresh
water
excuse
me
is
already
dedicated
to
agriculture.
So
unless
we
change
how
we
are
doing
things,
we
are
going
to
need
two
planet
earths,
basically
to
feed
the
population
in
30
years
covet
19.
E
You
all
remember
the
empty
grocery
shelves
that
we
experienced
in
the
shortages
and
supplies
and
such
really
exposed
the
unstable
nature
of
our
food
supply
system,
and
we
currently
have
about
69
of
all
of
our
crops.
Vine
crops
are
imported
and
that's
an
increase
of
from
2018
of
about
24
and
the
western
us,
which
is
where
we
get
many
of
our
fresh
fruits
and
vegetables
is
experiencing
one
of
the
highest
droughts
in
modern
history.
E
We
want
this
region
kentucky
being
the
center
of
it
to
be
the
new
local
supply
chain.
It's
the
future
of
farming.
It
is
ecologically
responsible,
it's
local!
It's
it's
quicker
to
get
to
market.
We
we
don't
compete
with
traditional
row.
Crop
farming,
controlled
environment
agriculture
does
not
compete
with
traditional
row,
crops
like
wheat
coins
or
soybeans.
E
So
through
innovation.
We
think
that
we
can
secure
our
food
supply
and
really
decrease
the
number
of
imports
that
we're
currently
reliant
upon
so
controlled
environment.
Agriculture
is
sort
of
a
new
creature
in
the
agricultural
in
the
agriculture
industry.
We
are
solving
for
a
number
of
environmental
and
social
issues.
E
A
Might
let
the
members
do
know
that
you
do
have
a
handout,
but
it's
a
part
of
their
presentation.
A
A
C
A
C
E
E
E
This
is
the
new
food
supply
chain
that
we're
talking
about,
and
this
is
a
really
important
slide
for
you
to
see,
because
what
we're
talking
about
is
a
food
supply
chain
that
is
centered
in
appalachia,
with
kentucky
at
the
center
of
it
at
the
heart
of
it
we're
going
to
go
through
some
statistics.
You
have
a
two-pager
that
we
provided
to
you
that
has
all
this
information
on
it.
Talking
about
labor,
I
wanted
to
just
go:
go
through
some
of
these
practices
that
are
app
harvest
specific.
E
We
do
pay
a
living
wage,
our
employees
all
start
at
13,
the
low
the
entry
level
employees
start
at
13
per
hour.
They
do
have
fully
paid
health.
Dental
and
vision
benefits
a
401k
and
stock
options.
So
we
do
pride
ourselves
in
that
approach
to
our
labor
market.
We
we
use
only.
We
have
hire
only
local
labor
when
we
go
into
a
community.
We
don't
use
any
talent.
That's
from
outside
the
united
states,
we're
highly
water
efficient.
E
E
We
are
free
of
harsh
chemicals
and
pesticides.
We
use
an
integrated
pest
management,
basically
introducing
a
good
pest
to
kill
off
bad
pests.
We
don't
produce
any
agricultural
runoff.
We
have
less
food
waste
and
we're
very
climate
resilient,
so
we're
adaptive.
We
we
control
everything
inside.
We
are
a
certified
b
corp.
E
We
believe
that
that
helps
build
a
more
resilient
business
and
we're
very
interested
in
investing
in
the
communities
that
we
go
into
so
by
the
numbers
and
I'll
run
through
these
very
quickly
because
of
where
we're
building
it
puts
us
in
a
geographical
advantage.
We're
70
we're
within
a
drive
a
day's
drive
of
70
of
the
us
population.
We
expect
to
use
80
percent
less
diesel
fuel
and
transporting
again
90
percent
less
water
than
conventional
ag.
We
do
have
a
10-acre
rainwater
pond
at
the
moorhead
facility,
if
you've
not
driven
by
there.
E
E
We
do
produce
30
times
higher
yields
than
open
field
agriculture,
and
we
have
365
days
of
growing.
We
do
project
that
we
are
going
to
have.
We
went
last
year
from
20
employees
in
march
of
last
year
fast
forward
to
this
year
and
we
have
more
than
500
employees,
and
that
is
with
opening
one
greenhouse.
E
We
have
two
under
construction
matt's,
going
to
talk
about
our
development
and
we've
broken
ground
on
two
additional
facilities,
so
we
will
have
five
facilities
operating
in
kentucky
by
the
end
of
2022..
Get
all
that
right.
Yes,
all
right
and
we
do
use
led
lighting
and
high
pressure
sodium
lighting,
so
we
use
less
energy
as
well.
We
are
investing
in
appalachian,
eastern
kentucky,
neighborhoods
and
schools.
E
So
if
you
all
have
any
ideas
around
that,
we
are
very
eager
to
hear
that
this
is
just
showing
you
our
job
growth
that
I
just
described,
but
it's
it's
a
graphic.
It
just
shows
that
we
had
four
in
2018
we've
jumped
to
505
as
of
june
1st
of
2021.,
and
that's
an
estimated
annual
payroll
in
kentucky
of
27
million
dollars.
E
This
is
where
I
want.
You
know
to
talk
about
supply
chain
a
little
bit,
so
it's
not
just
about
ag
tech
control,
environment,
agriculture,
it's
also
about
the
industry
that
comes
to
support
agriculture,
to
support
controlled
environment,
agriculture
and
that's
no,
you
know
you
all
are
no
strangers
to
agriculture
brings
additional
industry.
You
have
to
have
the
products
to
support
what
you're
growing
and
what
you're
producing
same
thing
with
app
harvest.
E
Again,
I'm
going
to
go
a
little
bit
dramatic
here,
so
we
are
interested
in
an
agtech
ecosystem
being
centered
right
here
in
kentucky.
We
believe
that
kentucky
has
the
chance
to
lead
on
this
and
when
you
think
ag
tech,
it's
it's
not
necessarily
just
the
technology,
that's
controlling
the
growing
conditions
inside
a
greenhouse
matt.
Do
you
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
ag
tech
and
what
all
it
encompasses.
G
Sure,
I
think
a
lot
of
it's
called
out
here
on
this
slide,
but
I
want
everyone
to
understand.
This
is
about
a
lot
more
than
just
a
greenhouse,
and
you
know
we're
fighting
for
suppliers
to
come
in
behind
us
kind
of
trying
to
ape
the
toyota
model
that
was
so
successful
over
the
last
decade.
So,
right
now
we're
buying
a
lot
of
what
we're
using
in
our
greenhouse
from
holland.
G
We
would
like
to
bring
those
companies
to
the
united
states
to
kentucky
specifically
when
you
talk
about
the
industry
in
holland,
that
we
are
you
know
trying
to
to
mimic
here.
There
are
over
10
000
businesses
that
support
this
industry
in
the
netherlands,
a
country
that
fits
quite
nicely
in
the
size
of
eastern
kentucky.
G
If
we
can
bring
a
couple
dozen
of
those
over
here.
This
is
hundreds
of
jobs.
This
is
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
in
investment,
and
this
is
going
to
continue
to
to
snowball.
So
when
you
think
about
ag
tech
space,
I
want
you
to
think
more
about
things
like
seed,
animal
feed,
health
and
nutrition
and
yeah.
Of
course,
it
is
the
sensors,
it's
the
technology
that
allows
us
to
grow
successfully,
24
7
365,
but
it's
about
a
lot
more
than
just
a
greenhouse.
E
And
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
focusing
on.
We
would
like
to
have
a
research
facility
anchored
somewhere
here
in
kentucky
and
eastern
kentucky,
so
that
we
can
continue
working
with
the
netherlands
and
working
with
other
countries
who
are
leading
on
controlled
environment,
agriculture
and
ag
tech.
E
We
want
to
strengthen
that
connection
to
the
netherlands.
Our
ceo
is
actually
getting
on
a
plane
this
afternoon
to
go
over
to
the
netherlands,
because
they're
just
so
far
ahead
of
where
we
are
in
the
agtech
arena
in
controlled
environment
agriculture,
and
we
would
like
to
bring
that
back
here
to
kentucky
and
we'd
like
to
use
the
app
harvest,
initiative
and
and
people
power
to
do
just
that,
and
then
we're
also
starting
to
work
on
a
rural
urban
connection
and
I'm
glad
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
E
So
funding
our
future
to
date,
app
harvest
has
not
received
government
incentives
for
funding.
We've
done
what
we've
what
we've
grown,
we've
grown
on
our
own.
We
have
had
a
significant
amount.
Our
ceo
went
out
and
raised
500
million
in
investment
dollars.
We
went
public
in
february.
E
I
think
that
we
are
still
the
newest
public
company
in
kentucky
publicly
traded
company
in
kentucky,
but
we're
young
and
we're
eager
to
grow
and
we'd
like
to
grow
faster
than
you
know.
Funds
permit
us
to
because
we
just
want
want
to
bring
that
all
here.
There
are
federal
programs
that
could
support
additional
growth.
The
abandoned
mine
lands
program
is
something
that
we've
explored.
E
It's
it's
a
bit
bureaucratic
and
hard
to
get
through
and
it
really
focuses
on
recl
on
restoring
the
land
to
its
natural
resource
capacity.
It
doesn't
necessarily
focus
on
economic
development
and
revitalization,
but
we
have
had
some
meetings
in
d.c
regarding
the
abandoned
mine
lands,
economic
revitalization
pilot
program,
of
which
kentucky
is
one
of
six
states
that
qualifies
for
that.
E
We
believe
that
there
may
be
support
to
put
some
additional
funding
toward
the
amler
funds,
which
would
be
that
can
be
used
toward
economic
development
that
can
be
used
to
build
up
infrastructure
broadband
utility
connections.
We've
been
working
with
the
appalachian
regional
commission
and
they're
very
interested
in
partnering
with
states
like
kentucky
west
virginia.
E
The
the
last
thing
I'll
touch
on
to
plant
a
seed
is
that
there's
a
lot
of
money
out
there
right
now
in
in
cities
and
counties
that
they
have
control
over
through
the
american
rescue
plan
act,
and
we
believe
that
there
are
a
couple
of
ways
that
these
funds
could
be
used
to
support,
ag
tech,
controlled
environment,
agriculture
and
supporting
industries
to
build
this
out
in
kentucky
six
major
eligible
areas
for
using
these
funds.
G
Sure,
thanks
christy,
so
you
see
here
some
dated
photos
now
we're
very
far
along
on
two
future
projects.
In
madison
county
over
200
million
dollar
investment
there
will
have
in
excess
of
350
jobs,
that'll
be
coming
to
both
a
farm
in
madison
county
there
and
down
in
berea.
We
are
expanding
into
the
leafy
greens,
lettuce,
business.
G
So
this
is
exciting
for
us
as
we
push
beyond
the
crop,
we
know
and
love
well,
the
the
tomato
we
are
growing
in
madison
county
there
in
richmond
a
exact
same
footprint
facility
as
moorhead,
so
another
nearly
2.8
million
square
feet
of
growth
space,
another
110
to
120
million
dollar
investment
on
a
beautiful
former
cattle
farm
there.
Next
to
the
bluegrass
army
depot,
we
do
have
a
small
facility
under
construction
in
berea
small
for
us,
15
acres
is
about
700
000
square
feet,
so
this
is
small
for
us
we're
jaded.
G
Now
we
also
have
broken
ground
in
the
last
two
weeks
on
two
future
facilities
and
in
somerset,
where
we're
going
to
get
into
the
berry
business
and
we're
announced
an
expansion
of
our
site
in
moorhead,
where
we're
gonna
add
more
leafy
greens.
So
all
this
means
that
where
we
have
today
500
jobs
this
time
next
year,
it's
going
to
be
a
thousand
jobs
in
two
years,
it's
gonna
be
three
thousand
jobs.
G
C
E
So
we
actually
that's
part
of
what
allowed
us
to
grow
so
quickly.
Is
we
sell
to
master
nardi
and
matt
can
speak
to
that
he's
been
involved
in
that
development
from
the
very
beginning.
G
Sure
so
you
probably
know
them
under
the
brand
of
sunset:
you've
seen
them
at
kroger
likely,
but
they
have
contracts
with
the
30
biggest
grocers
on
the
midwest
and
east
coast.
So
this
is
our
market,
where
we're
not
pushing
anything
to
the
west
coast,
we're
all
familiar
with
the
logistical
advantages
kentucky
gives
us
christie
mentioned
70
of
the
country
accessible
within
a
day's
drive.
G
So
that's
the
market
we're
going
after,
but
you
know
I
know
our
produce
is
everywhere
from
publix
down
in
florida
to
the
aldi
up
in
chicago
to
you
know,
to
croak
to
kroger's
here
to
costco
in
the
northeast.
So
it
is
widespread
and
there
are
tomatoes
are
on
the
shelves
here
at
kroger
down
the
street
right
now.
D
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
being
here
today.
I
I'm
just
always
so
impressed
when
I
hear
about
you
guys.
Someone
from
your
organization
was
actually
at
the
lexington
rotary
club
and
my
husband
heard
about
you
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
he
came
home
just
just
raving
so
much,
and
so
you
know
I'm
excited
that
you
all
are
out.
You
know
talking
about
yourselves
and
educating
the
people
of
kentucky.
I
know
it's
so
exciting
for
everybody
and
I
finally
got
to
have
an
app
harvest
tomato
recently
that
I
purchased
at
kroger.
D
C
Thank
you
all
for
coming
here
today
and
enlightening
everybody
on
what
some
of
us
already
know
and
have
been
monitoring
you
since
you're
beginning-
and
I
you
know,
I
appreciate
you
your
good
neighbor
to
my
district
and
for
the
sake
of
full
disclosure
when
you
went
public,
I'm
a
small
stockholder
and
I
continue
to
support
you
and
and
really
appreciate
what
you're
doing
and
that
you're
doing
it
here.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair
and
chair
heath,
actually
asked
my
question.
If
I
or
any
other
retail
customer,
how
can
we
identify
app
harvest
produce
and
then
a
second
question
as
a
home
cook,
I
think
a
leak
is
the
hardest
thing
to
to
clean
because
it
is
grown
in
the
dirt,
any
thoughts
on
adding
leaks
to
future
produce
being
grown
without
harvest.
Thank
you.
E
Well,
I
can
answer
the
branding
and
then
I'm
hoping
matt
can
answer
the
leak
question.
The
branding
so
sunset
and
apple
harvest
have
an
agreement
to
co-brand.
So
when
you
see
sunset,
you'll
see
the
app
harvest,
logo,
the
double
mountain
logo
on
the
same
box.
G
And
the
groceries
are
getting
better
about
separating
our
produce
out
and
having
a
local.
You
know
sticker
tag
on
it,
some
of
better
than
others,
but
but
yeah.
You
have
to
kind
of
look
at
the
the
tag,
because
sometimes
it'll
say
mx
or
ca
for
canada
or
mexico.
Gotta
look
for
the
ky
and
the
double
mountain
will
be
ours
as
far
as
leaks.
I
have
not
heard
that
mentioned
in
terms
of
a
product
that
we're
interested
in
backing
up
what
what
christy
said.
G
If
you
see
how
much
of
the
market
comes
from
south
of
the
border,
it's
more
than
three
quarters
of
the
market,
so
this
is
the
market
that
we
want
to
displace.
These
are
the
imports
that
we
would
much
rather
kentuckians,
be
growing.
Here
I
will
put
that
to
my
operations
team,
though,
put
in
a
request
for
leaks.
G
F
And
thank
you.
I've
got
a
couple
of
questions
one.
You
were
talking
about
the
support
industries
that
you
hope
to
develop
around
this.
Do
are
those
industries
self-contained
for
app
harvest
or
would
they
be
able
to
broaden
out
into
other
industries
and
if
so,
what.
G
Sure
I
mean
the
entire
greenhouse
is:
is
comes
turnkey
from
holland,
so
we
had
over
600
shipping
containers
go
from
rotterdam
to
norfolk,
on
a
train
to
louisville
and
on
over
to
to
moorhead.
So
this
is
something
we
don't
want
to
do
again.
The
logistics
of
that
just
don't
make
much
sense.
The
the
problem
is,
it's
such
specialized.
G
You
know
technology
in
this
facility,
and
so
when
we
talk
about
bringing
suppliers
here,
we're
talking
about
bringing
the
actual
dutch
companies
here
to
hire
local,
but
it's
things
like
steel.
It's
things
like
diffused
glass,
which
you
know,
allows
the
uv
light
to
to
be
captured
and
allows
the
heat
to
be
captured
as
well
for
tomatoes
which
they
like.
Now
that
changes
in
an
environment
where
we're
growing
lettuce-
and
you
don't
require
that
high
heat,
so
subtle
things
like
that,
make
a
difference
for
us
when
you're
growing.
G
But
to
answer
your
question
absolutely
it's
things
like
cut
glasses
things
like
steel,
but
it's
also,
you
know
things.
We
call
consumables
things
that
every
day
we're
using.
So
you
know
there
are
dozens
and
dozens
of
opportunities
for
other
companies
to
come
in
and
supply,
not
just
us,
but
any
other
pharma
community
in
the
state
and
and
beyond.
F
G
Well,
I
think
you
know
manufacturing
industrial
other
agriculture.
Companies,
I
think,
could
all
benefit
from
from
yeah,
even
even
residential.
When
you
talk
about
the
capacity
that
we
want
to
we'd
like
to
build
out
here-
and
it
is,
you
know,
very
specialized
knowledge,
so
we're
importing
a
lot
of
know-how
as
well
a
lot.
A
lot
of
mental
power
is
going
to
come
along
with
this.
F
One
more
if
I
can-
and
you
may
have
touched
on
this-
and
you
did
I
apologize-
you
were
talking
about
expanding
your
production.
Is
that
just
going
to
be
in
tomato
production
and
then
what
are
your
plans
for
building
out
your
market
in
other
vegetable
crops?
Sure.
G
I
mean
cdc
tells
us
that
one
in
10
americans
get
enough
fruits
and
vegetables.
So
if
we
push
that
to
two
and
ten
we've
doubled
the
market,
we
see
the
trends
going
that
way.
Younger
generation
demanding
fresher
produce
grown
closer
to
home.
So
we
think
that
demand
will
increase
christy.
You
want
to
take
the
yeah.
E
And
we
are
expanding
from
tomatoes
to
leafy
greens
and
berries
with
our
new,
our
four
new
facilities
under
development
and
we
can
grow
any
vine
crop
peppers,
cucumbers,
those
kinds
of
things,
so
we
do
intend
to
expand
that
market
are.
E
Initially,
it
will
be
through
master
nardi,
yes,
so
they
will
buy
everything
that
we
produce
down
the
road,
and
you
know
we
don't
know
how
far
down
the
road
that
may
be.
It
may
be
something
where
you
know
app
harvest
is
out
on
its
own,
but
right
now
we
are
linked
to
masternardi
and
they
purchase
all
of
our
products.
Thank.
H
I
don't
really
have
a
question,
mr
chairman.
I
just
want
to
make
a
comment.
You
know
sitting
here
and
listening
to
your
presentation
is
very
impressive,
but
I'm
also
grateful
for
the
fact
that
you've
invested
in
an
area
of
our
commonwealth,
which
needs
additional
jobs
and
new
jobs
coming
in.
So
I
salute
you
on
making
that
investment,
particularly
in
eastern
kentucky,
and
it's
just
amazing
how
fast
this
this
company
is
growing.
H
If
this
committee,
at
some
time,
can
go
on
a
road
trip
and
see
what
is
taking
place
at
this,
this
great
opportunity
and
and
the
successful
endeavor
that
you've
taken
on.
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
what
you're
doing
and
may
you
continue
to
succeed
in
this
effort.
So
thank
you
so
much.
G
Thank
you
very
much
for
for
the
kind
words
and
you
know
just
anecdotally.
We
had
over
300
jobs
in
moorhead
we
had
7
000
resumes.
So
for
everyone
saying
that
you
know
no
one
wants
to
work
in
eastern
kentucky.
We
prove
them
wrong
right
there.
You
know,
I
think,
from
the
very
beginning,
it
was
important
for
us
to
hire
local,
and
you
know
much
of
the
agriculture
community,
especially
in
the
midwest,
relies
on
the
h2a
program,
the
temporary
guest
worker
program.
G
This
is
something
we
we
hope
to
never
touch
we're
very
proud
of
the
fact
that
we
hire
local
and
and
just
showing
you
how
many
people
are
interested
in
this
kind
of
work
really
validates
our
thesis
on
this.
So
I
appreciate
the
kind
words.
Thank
you
thank.
A
You,
mr
chairman
and
representative,
graham
just
a
side,
comment
to
going
out
to
app
harvest
I'd
love
to
sometime.
I
think
that
the
best
thing
that
committees
for
the
interim
can
do
is
to
meet
out
in
the
state
where
we
meet
the
people
not
coming
up
here
to
frankfurt
in
our
environment
up
here,
but
to
go
out
and
meet
people.
So
you
talk
to
leadership
and
talk
them
into
it
and
we
will
be
happy
to
come
down.
A
Well,
just
a
few
comments
for
me:
I'm
excited
to
have
you
all
here
today
and
what
you
all
are
doing
for
agriculture.
You
talk
about
the
netherlands
and
anybody
that
has
looked
at
what
goes
on
in
the
netherlands
in
denmark
and
those
places
and
just
the
amount
of
ag
exports
they
have
for
those
small
countries
and
it's
all
through
the
same
type
of
process,
the
sustainability,
the
controlled
environment
that
you
all
are
doing.
I
do
have
a
couple
of
questions.
A
Water
is
a
major
resource
in
the
u.s
and
and
you
all
are
doing
a
good
job
of
capturing
your
own
water
supply,
reusing
your
own
water
supply
and
everything
matt.
How
much
effect
is
what's
going
on
in
the
western
united
states
because
of
of
a
lot
of
our
foods
that
you
all
are
growing
or
growing
out
there?
A
I'm
sure
that
y'all's
team
has
discussed
that
a
lot,
because
that
has
got
to
change
because
they're
in
a
dire
need
of
of
something
changing
out
there,
and
I
know
that
agriculture
uses
a
lot
of
the
water
out
there
and
that's
got
to
change.
So
just
give
me
your
thoughts
and
ideas
on
that,
because
I
think
that
the
food
security
is
something
that
we
as
farmers
have
always
focused
on.
G
Absolutely
I
mean
I,
the
last
statistic
I
saw
was
that
41
of
58
counties
in
california
were
under
extreme
drought
right
now.
You
know
this
probably
is
not
going
to
get
any
better
this
season
or
in
years
to
come.
A
lot
of
the
lettuce,
especially
of
the
united
states,
comes
out
of
central
valley.
California,
and
of
course
we
read
about
the
problems
that
open
field
ag
you
know
produces
there.
We
have.
You
know
salmonella
e
coli
breakouts
regularly.
G
You
know
this.
These
are
things
we
avoid,
because
we
don't
use
pesticides,
we
don't
use
harsh
chemicals,
it's
all
organic
nutrient
solution
and
zero
runoff
from
our
facility.
So,
of
course,
the
fact
that
our
west
coast
friends
are
having
problems
again,
validates
our
central
thesis
around
why
this
sector
is
important
and
why
the
entire
united
states
should
be
looking
at
kentucky
to
grow
this
sector
and
not
the
west
coast
christie.
Anything
else
you'd
like
to
add
on
that.
No.
E
I
I
think
it's
just
it's
clear.
You
know
we
are
getting
our
conditions
in
kentucky
and
in
this
region,
but
particularly
in
kentucky
and
eastern
kentucky
are
getting
more
and
more
ideal
for
this
industry,
so
we
again
taking
a
a
dramatic
liberty.
We
think
this
is
kentucky's
moonshot
to
really
break
out
and
lead
on
this
and
bring
all
of
the
the
right
people,
talent,
know-how.
We
have
much
of
it
already,
so
you
know.
G
G
Friends,
of
course,
would
love
the
situation,
I'm
in
the
unique
situation
where,
when
I
go
into
communities
and
are
very
proud
about
our
retention
pond
and
our
net
zero
water
usage,
local
municipal
water
wants
to
sell
us
water
because
they
have
the
capacity
so
so
they're
looking
at
us,
like
you,
know,
a
big
customer
and
I
have
to
tell
them.
Unfortunately,
we
have
this
sustainable
way
to
avoid
a
huge
amount
of
water
purchase
from
municipal
authorities,
so
this
does
help
our
sustainable
metrics
a
lot.
G
This
is
a
really
unique
way
to
grow
and
it's
the
only
way
that
the
only
facility
of
its
type
in
the
united
states
that
uses
retention
bond
water.
It's
about
a
three-month
backup
supply,
so
we've
got
god
forbid.
We
do
have
a
drought.
We
do
have
that
backup.
So
it's
not
a
problem
for
us
where
we
live.
It's
a
big
problem,
as
we
know
for
our
friends
on
the
west
coast.
We
think
this
is
another
reason
why
this
sector
is
going
to
continue
to
grow.
A
We
look
forward
to
coming
and
visiting
your
all
sites
sometime
me
individually,
and
I
want
to
come
sometime
and
and
I'm
sure
that
the
committee
would
like
to
come
sometime,
but
we
do
appreciate
what
you
all
are
doing
for
kentucky
and
and
the
technology
you've
brought
in,
because
I
think
the
sustainability
of
agriculture
and
for
the
future
growth
in
population
worldwide,
the
more
contained
a
more
controlled
environment
is
where
that's
going
to
come
from,
especially
for
the
good,
healthy
fruits
and
vegetables
that
we
have.
So.
A
Thank
you
all
for
what
you
all
are
doing.
I
know
that
rocky
and
some
others
hope
that
you
all
can
lure
some
of
these
other
suppliers
in
here
into
the
united
states,
because
that
would
be
a
big
benefit
too
and
I'm
sure
to
help
you
on
not
having
the
logistics
of
of
trying
to
move
everything
in
from
other
countries.
So
thank
you
all
for
being
here
and
if
you
all
don't
have
any
other
comments,
we
appreciate
it.
E
A
I
think
there's
no
doubt
if
you
ever
thought
one
of
the
questions
I
just
thought
of.
I
got
a
neighbor
that
has
got
a
controlled
environment
growing
for
leafy
greens,
but
he
also
raises
fish
underneath
of
that
any
thoughts
on
that
or
your
just
your
sort
of
thoughts
on
that
I've
had
both
from
him.
That's
where
I
buy
my
leafy
greens
and
that's
where
I
get
my
fish.
If
I
don't
catch
them
and
just
your
thoughts
on
that.
G
There
are
unique
systems
out
there
that
combine.
I
think
aquaponics
is
what
you're
referring
to.
I
think
what
what
my
operations
folks
would
say
that
at
scale
it's
difficult
to
do
both
we
have
to
say
we're
either
a
produce
company
or
we're
in
the
aquaponics
business.
There
are
some
very
interesting
smaller
scale
uses.
G
Seen
that
are
fascinating,
I
think
that
you
know
our
whole
thesis
is
grow,
grow,
big,
we're!
Building
these
huge
facilities,
45
million
pounds
of
tomatoes,
are
going
to
come
out
of
one
building.
I
think
when
you
combine
that
with
a
large-scale
aquaponics
operation,
it
requires
a
lot
of
other
competencies.
We
don't
yet
have
on
staff,
but
it
is
an
interesting.
You
know
interesting
idea
and
something
that
I
think
I'd
like
to
learn
more
about
myself.
A
Next,
we
have
dana
feldman
from
the
department
of
ag
and
harlan
patter
and
jason
glass
to
talk
about
our
motor.
A
A
B
I
B
Again,
thank
you
for
having
us
today.
We
have
a
brief
presentation
to
discuss
some
items
about
our
motor
fuel
quality
program
at
kda,
some
of
the
history
and
some
of
the
reasons
why
there
are
new
regulations
that
are
also
on
in
the
packet.
Today.
I
will
let
jason
glass
figure
out
how
to
share
the
screen
and
proceed
with
the
presentation
and
we'll
take
any
questions
that
you
have
afterwards.
I
I
Inspectors
pull
samples
for
random
testing
at
retail
outlets
throughout
the
state.
We've
got
a
little
over
2
800
retail
outlets
that
we
sample
periodically.
We
respond
to
consumer
complaints
as
well.
We
get
in
the
neighborhood
of
30
to
40
of
those
a
year,
so
we
respond
to
those
when
a
consumer
has
a
complaint
with
the
gas
they
receive
at
a
station.
They
give
us
a
call
and
we
go
out
and
do
that.
I
So
the
program
updates
the
red
tape
reduction
mandate,
set
us
on
the
path
to
rewriting
the
regulation
that
was
recently
approved
by
the
administrative
regulation
committee.
The
old
the
old
documents
were
put
in
place
in
1994,
including
the
civil
penalties
guideline
in
1995.,
so
we
were
working
on
some
antiquated
regulations
and
some
civil
penalty
guides.
The
old
regulations
did
not
adequately
describe
the
marketplace
or
the
standards
that
were
were
in
the
astm
today,
so
that
is
quite
a
undertaking
with
the
dry
and
technical
nature
of
the
requirements
and
specifications
for
a
for
a
motor
fuel.
I
I
I
There
were
no
updates.
The
previous
regulation
did
not
explain
the
components
of
the
program
the
way
the
kda
was
running
them.
Asdm
and
other
industry
standards
are
updated
and
revised,
at
least
on
an
annually
basis,
and
sometimes
up
to
four
to
six
times
a
year.
So
trying
to
stay
with
those
model
regulations
and
those
specifications
becomes
very
difficult
when
you're
having
to
update
the
as
the
regulation
regularly
the
stages
in
this
process
april
2018
to
april
2020.
There
were
internal
work
to
generate
a
comprehensive
discussion
document
in
april
2020
to
july
2020.
I
We
shared
this
discussion
draft
with
industry
representatives
requested
a
first
round
of
comments
and
feedback
from
them.
In
november
2020
we
filed
the
regulations
with
the
lrc
and
then
from
november
2020
to
january
2021.
We
saw
a
public
comment
period.
The
second
round
of
comments
from
industry
representatives
we
poured
through
about
40
pages
of
those
to
adjust
the
regulation
after
that.
I
We
do
anticipate
some
statute
changes
coming
mainly
to
clean
up
language
and
revise
some
outdated
language
in
the
statute.
Some
of
the
technical
changes
requested
by
industry
will
differ
from
the
bill
that
was
filed
last
session
that
some
of
you
might
be
familiar
with,
including
the
temperature
vapor
liquid
ratio.
I
It's
a
very
technical
thing,
auto
manufacturers,
some
fuel,
refiners
and
distributors,
say
that
standards
should
be
included.
It's
currently
waived
and
they
would
like
us
to
test
to
that
standard.
So
we'll
be
discussing
that
with
those
folks
and
the
t50
distillation
requirement
and
statute
is
now
included
in
the
astm
standard.
So
we
will
remove
that
that
waiver
from
that
temperature
requirement
from
the
statute.
I
A
I
I
Will
get
well,
the
for
fuel
quality
is
more
of
a
surveillance
thing
because
that
product
is
sold
so
quickly,
depending
on
the
throughput.
Some
stations
get
four
deliveries
a
day.
Some
get
one
a
month,
so
you're
really
just
doing
a
surveillance
program
to
watch
and
make
sure
fuel
coming
out
of
the
terminals
is
up
to
spec
and
the
stations
are
doing
their
housekeeping
to
try
to
keep
the
fuel
that's
in
their
underground
storage
tanks.
So
you
test.
A
Do
you
in
your
testing,
do
you
also
look
at
the
blends
if
it's
blended
with
ethanol
and
those
type
of
things,
do
you
test
for
that
to
make
sure
they're
accurate.
B
The
only
comment
I
have
is
that
we've
just
really
appreciated
the
support
and
working
with
all
of
the
industry
representatives
over
the
past
couple
of
years.
We've
had
great
feedback
and
great
communication.
I
think
between
us
and
the
legislators
and
and
those
folks
as
well.
A
Well,
I
know
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion,
all
of
it
was
moved
us
forward
and
where
we
were
going,
but
there
were
some
concerns
from
retailers
and
suppliers
and
different
ones,
but
appreciate
the
work
that
you
all
have
done
in
working
through
those
and
and
trying
to
get
this
done
right
because
we
had
need
to
have
a
good
inspection
program
so
appreciate
you're,
always
willingness
to
delay
to
take
the
time
to
step
back
and
make
sure
we
get
this
done
right.
A
A
I
want
to
make
members
aware
also
before
they
leave
that
we
do
have
consideration
of
referred
administrative
regulations.
We
don't
have
any
actions
to
take
on
those,
but
they
they
are
dealing
with
motor
fuel,
quality
testing
and
the
standards.
So
you
will
review
those
make
sure
they're,
okay
with
them.
I
just
want
to
remind
you
of
that
before
they
leave
completely.
A
A
Okay,
there's
not
anybody
here
for
that
they
just
they
refer
the
report
to
us.
So
anybody
wants
to
look
at
that
and
make
sure
that
our
dollars
from
the
tobacco
settlement
are
being
spent
correctly
at
the
research
development
board.
A
Well,
if
not,
I
think
that
finishes
up
our
meeting
today
appreciate
all
the
members
being
here
today
and
look
forward
to
seeing
you
next
month
and
next
month's
meeting
date
is
at
the
state,
fair
and
hope
all
of
you
all
can
be
there
not
just
for
the
meeting,
but
to
enjoy
the
state
fair
and
see
what
the
commonwealth
is
doing.
I
know
we've
had
meetings
down
there
before
during
the
fair
most
of
the
times,
but
a
couple
years
ago
we
went
absent
of
the
fair
just
to
look
at
the
facilities.