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A
We
appreciate
everyone
in
person
and
we
have
quite
a
few
actually
virtual
to
from
pretty
far
distances
so
we'll
get
going
in
just
a.
A
A
What
is
that
representative
dasa?
Can
you
say
that,
you're
here
again
and
where
you
are.
A
A
All
right,
we
want
to
thank
you
so
much
for
such
a
good
attendance
for
the
very
first
joint
meeting
between
senate
and
house
of
veterans,
military
affairs
and
public
protections.
I
think
it's
scheduled.
We
should
have
all
six
of
them
this
year.
There's
plenty
of
topics
to
discuss.
A
We
are
going
to
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
our
very
first
one
representative,
bentley
danny.
I
don't
know
if
you
would
want
to
come
up
and
why
don't
you
sit
at
the
table
just
for
a
second
introduce
your
daughters,
that's
and
you
can
just
say
a
little
bit
and
then
we'll
turn
it
over
to
kristen
jones
and
aaron
ramey.
G
I'm
state
representative,
danny
bentley
district
98
and
my
daughter
will
be
presenting
from
okinawa
here
in
a
minute.
A
little
footnote
is
two
days
ago.
They
didn't
have
any
wi-fi
and
she
couldn't
present,
probably
from
one
zoom.
It
would
have
to
be
by
telephone,
but
her
husband
been
an
officer.
I
think
it
rains
where
she
could.
G
K
I'm
out
here
we're
we
just
moved
out
in
town
and
they
are,
I
guess,
improving
the
japanese
internet
and
with
kova
that's
a
little
hard
here.
So
I
hope
you
guys
can
hear
and
see
me,
okay
and,
if
not,
I
have
kristen
jones
here
with
me:
she's,
another
military
spouse
and
president
of
military
spouse
jd
network,
a
great
organization.
So
if
you
lose
me,
we've
practiced
and
she
has
all
of
our
talking
points.
So
I
hope
to
stay
here
connected
with
you
but
hi.
K
Yes,
I'm
aaron
ramey
and
I'm
really
glad
to
be
here
it's
okinawa
time.
It's
11
p.m,
we're
almost
a
half
a
day
ahead
of
kentucky,
and
we
just
got
here.
I
went
through
14
days
of
quarantine
and
just
moved
out
into
her
house
out
in
town.
So
let
me
turn
it
over
to
kristen
she's
going
to
introduce
our
organization
today
and
if
she
can't
I
can
go
through
too.
K
I
think
she
may
have
internet
trouble
too,
but
I'm
going
to
turn
over
to
her
and
if
that
doesn't
go
smoothly,
I
can
I
can
step
in
for
her
as
well.
That's
what
military
spouses
do.
K
So
today
we're
just
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
military
spouse,
jd
network.
They
actually
celebrated
their
10th
anniversary
yesterday
and
then
we'll
go
through
our
personal
stories.
K
We're
going
to
talk
about
today's
modern
military
spouse
and
then
some
things
that
professional
military
spouses
deal
with
individually
on
an
everyday
basis,
trying
to
be
professionals
as
we
move
every
two
to
three
years
and
the
unique
challenges
that
come
with
that
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
house
bill
251
that
passed
the
kentucky
house
in
march
94-0
and
the
importance
of
it
and
we'll
share
all
of
our
sources
and
data
that
we
have
for
you
as
well.
So
we
can
move
on
here
to
the
next
slide.
K
K
So
that
makes
a
little
bit
easier
with
employment
and
also
we're
encouraging
the
higher
military
spouses
and
providing
just
that
network
and
military
spouse
trading
network
has
definitely
been
that
for
me,
the
past
10
years
I
actually
was
a
charter
member
and
just
the
advocacy
work
that
they've
done
not
only
for
military
spouse
attorneys,
but
in
general
military
spouses,
who
are
trying
to
be
professionals
as
they're
moving
state
to
state
and
even
oconus,
which
is
overseas.
K
K
And
this
is
kristin's
story.
I
will
let
her
tell
you
her
story
when
she
joins
in.
I
think
she's
got
internet.
She
just
texted
me,
so
we
can
maybe
come
back
to
her
slide
in
a
second.
If
we
want
to
go
to
the
next
one,
I
can
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
my
story.
So
basically
I
met
my
husband
drew
raymie
in
high
school.
We
were
high
school
sweethearts.
K
We
both
went
to
kentucky
colleges
at
georgetown.
We
went
to.
I
went
to
the
university
of
kentucky
and
uofl
for
my
law
degree.
K
So
we
love
kentucky
and
we're
raised
there
and
you
know
have
our
education
from
there
2008
I
passed
the
bar,
and
literally
after
day,
three
of
the
bar
I
jumped
in
a
car
with
my
mother-in-law
drove
to
california
were
there
for
a
year,
and
then
we
went
to
iwakuni
japan
for
three
years
then
to
new
jersey,
then
to
okinawa
japan
for
four
years,
then
to
washington
dc
the
past
two
years,
and
then
we
just
arrived
here
freshly
at
okinawa,
so
we've
actually
had
three
overseas
tours
in
japan
as
part
of
our
journey
here
in
the
military
and
I've
had
a
lot
of
different
jobs.
K
Every
pcs
has
been
a
different
job.
For
me.
I've
taught
high
school,
I've
taught
online
university
classes.
I
have
been
a
dance
instructor.
I've
been,
I
worked
with
uso
as
a
volunteer
which
then
led
to
being
the
uso
pacific
region,
operations,
manager
for
hawaii,
japan,
okinawa,
guam
and
korea,
and
then
also
I
have
my
backgrounds
in
teaching.
So
when
we
talk
about
licenses,
I've
had
five
teaching
licenses
and
a
bar
license.
So
I've
been
licensed
in
kentucky
for
teaching
california,
new
jersey,
department
of
defense,
schools
and
I've
also
had
my
national
board
certification.
K
Just
in
case
a
state
did
not
accept
my
teaching
license.
I
had
a
national
certified
license
that
would
help
me
with
job
procurement.
If
I
went
into
teaching
no
matter
what
state
or
even
federally
and
then
actually
I'm
really
excited
because
the
past
month
I
was
hired
with
a
veteran-owned
cloud-based
law
firm
who
it
was
a
the
managing
partner,
was
a
previous
navy
veteran
and
really
knew
the
lifestyle
of
spouses
and
actually
sought
as
an
asset
to
hire
military
spouse
attorneys
with
their
background.
K
So
I'm
really
excited
to
start
that,
but
looking
at
the
picture
you
know
I
started
in
2008
as
a
licensed
attorney
and
have
not
had
the
opportunity
just
quite
yet
to
practice
and
we're
going
on
13
years
here.
So
that's
just
part
of
the
story,
which
is
actually
more
common
than
what
you
think.
So
that's
a
little
bit
about
my
story.
Let
me
see
if
kristen,
if
she
wants
to
join
in
a
little
bit
here.
Let
me
see
if
she's
available.
L
Good
morning
erin,
thank
you
so
much
hey
members
of
the
committee.
Thank
you
so
much
for
having
us
here.
I
I
apologize.
We
we
maybe
anticipated
some
internet
issues
from
okinawa,
but
not
from
wyoming.
So
there
you
have
it
my
my
story,
like
errands,
might
be
kind
of
typical
for
a
military
spouse
with
any
professional
license.
I've
been
licensed
for
10
years,
and
in
that
time
I
have
held
seven
different
jobs.
L
I've
practiced
in
four
different
states
and
at
the
moment
I'm
actually
geo
batching,
my
husband
and
I
are
choosing
to
live
separately
in
support
of
my
career.
Unfortunately,
this
is
just
the
life
of
a
military
spouse.
My
husband
is
stationed
in
ohio
and
he
absolutely
loves
his
work
with
the
air
force,
but
it
wasn't
quite
clicking
for
me.
L
So
I,
last
year,
in
the
middle
of
the
pandemic,
picked
up
with
two
young
kids
and
I
moved
to
cheyenne
wyoming
so
that
I
could
relaunch
my
career,
establish
housekeeping
and
make
his
transition
out
of
the
service
just
a
bit
easier
on
the
family
finances
and,
it's
frankly,
an
unfortunate
situation.
My
husband
would
love
to
stay
in
the
air
force,
but
he'll
be
getting
out
next
year
because
it's
just
hasn't
been
conducive
to
my
goals
and
to
my
aspirations.
L
The
reason
we
chose
wyoming
is
because
we
were
stationed
here
years
ago
and
we
just
absolutely
loved
it.
We
love
the
town,
we
actually
do
like
the
weather,
believe
it
or
not,
but
the
biggest
pull
factor
for
us
was
the
professional
community
that
we
found
here.
Not
everyone
knew
exactly
what
I
was
going
through,
but
they
were
extremely
warm
and
welcoming
and
receptive
people
wanted
to
hear
the
stories
of
military
spouses
and
they
wanted
to
ask
what
they
could
do
to
support.
L
So,
in
the
time
that
we've
been
here,
we've
seen
wyoming's
license
reciprocity
rules
evolve
the
same
as
we've
seen
in
kentucky
and
it
makes
a
tremendous
difference.
This
is
something
that
military
spouses
notice
and
appreciate,
and
this
is
what
makes
us
want
to
come
back
to
these
communities.
We
tell
the
air
force
where
we
want
to
be
and
when
we
retire,
we
get
to
vote
with
our
feet.
L
Finally,
we
get
to
move
to
the
place
we
found
to
be
the
most
welcoming
to
us
and
where
we
could
pursue
those
goals,
so
I'm
so
pleased
to
be
here
today
again
in
support
of
house
bill
251.
This
takes
the
next
step
for
military
families.
Getting
that
license
is
only
the
first
step.
Maintaining
the
license.
Maintaining
the
career
advancing
within
your
career
are
still
huge
hurdles
that
we
face.
K
L
You
yeah,
I,
as
president
of
the
military
spouse
jd
network,
I'm
really
in
a
privileged
position
to
stand
on
the
shoulders
of
some
amazing
advocates.
For
10
years,
we've
been
going
state
to
state
and
visiting
with
state
supreme
courts
and
with
bodies
such
as
yours
to
really
discuss
what
it
is
to
be
a
professional
working
military
spouse
and
to
ask
for
those
common
sense,
adjustments
that
help
us
to
work
not
just
to
communi,
not
just
to
contribute
to
the
family
finances
but
to
really
become
part
of
that
community.
L
When
we
arrive
we're
looking
for
that
sense
of
connection
and
we
find
that
through
work,
so
I'm
really
pleased
to
tell
you
that
we're
up
to
41
states
and
u.s
virgin
islands,
and
our
data
shows
that
the
reciprocity
rules
for
attorneys
alone
have
been
used
at
least
220
times,
so
that
that
spouse
can
arrive
in
your
state,
get
her
license
and
hit
the
ground
running
and,
as
you
know,
kentucky
was
one
of
our
early
targets.
We
came
to
kentucky
in
2014,
we
testified
before
the
supreme
court.
L
We
talked
with
lawyers
and
judges
and
legislators,
and
we
saw
just
how
military-friendly
kentucky
was,
and
it
was
no
surprise
when
kentucky
passed
license
reciprocity
for
attorneys.
It
was
no
surprise
when
you
continued
that
work
with
additional
bills
and
statutes.
So
thank
you
again
for
having
us
today
I'll
turn
it
over
to
aaron
to
continue
to
kind
of
paint.
L
The
picture
you've
got
some
great
experts
later
on
in
the
agenda,
but
I
think
we
at
msjdn
can
give
you
a
snapshot
of
really
what
it
is
to
be
in
the
thick
of
it
so
to
speak.
Thank
you.
Aaron.
K
Thank
you
all
right,
so
just
a
general
snapshot.
Today
we
have
690
000,
active
duty,
military
spouses,
nationwide
and
seven
of
the
seven
thousand
of
those
are
in
kentucky
at
the
moment,
and
basically,
the
average
age
of
our
military
spouses
are
around
33,
but
there's
the
breakdown
of
the
percentages
and
then
gender
wise.
It's
interesting
because
92
percent
of
military
spouses
are
female.
8
are
male,
so
we
that's
just
a
general
snapshot.
We
can
move
to
the
next
slide.
Please
we
found
this
really
interesting
is
the
education
attainment
of
military
spouses.
K
We
see
here
that
military
spouses,
actually
40
of
them,
have
a
college
degree
compared
to
our
civilian
counterparts,
which
are
at
30.
So
you
know,
military
spouses
are
very
educated.
That's
changing!
I
think
a
lot
of
times
when
we
talk
about
military
spouses,
people
that
aren't
familiar
have
kind
of
a
world
war
ii,
1950s
kind
of
idea,
and
that
idea
is
definitely
changing
a
lot.
K
Even
I
guess
in
the
years
that
I've
had
as
a
military
experience
like
the
the
type
of
military
spouse,
that's
coming
through
is
very
motivated,
they're
very
career,
driven,
it's
just
a
different
landscape.
So
I
think
that's
something
to
keep
in
mind
as
we're
looking
at
looking
at
professional
licensing
and
really
quality
of
life
for
the
whole
military
family.
So
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide
things.
K
I
thought
this
was
an
excellent
graphic.
This
was
produced
by
blue
star
families.
We've
talked
about
some
of
these
status
statistics
here
that
I
thought
was
interesting
too.
Here
is
45
of
military
spouses
hold
a
bachelor's
or
advanced
degree
compared
to
33
of
the
general
population
who
have
a
bachelor's
or
advanced
degree.
We
all
know
this
pretty
much
in
the
military
spouse
world
this.
This
statistic
stays
the
same.
K
It's
actually
increased
a
little
bit
during
covet,
but
25
of
military
spouses
are
are
unemployed
and
31
to
53
percent
are
underemployed,
meaning
they
really
aren't
reaching.
You
know
with
their
skill,
set
they're,
not
really
obtaining
the
jobs
that
match
with
their
school
skill
set,
but
sometimes
they're,
just
taking
a
job
to
have
a
job
to
have
something
to
do
to
have
some
income,
but
it's
really
not
the
job
that
they've
desired
or
had
their
heart
set
on
and
that
it's
just
kind
of
with
military
lifestyle.
K
K
Military
spouses
have
a
70
or
70
percent
of
them,
experience
that
stretch
in
employment
compared
to
college
degree
or
even
high
school
degree,
which
is
just
a
51
of
high
school
degree.
Military
spouses
who
have
that
gap
in
employment,
so
the
higher
degree
you
have
the
more
likely
you're,
probably
going
to
experience
a
longer
gap
in
employment,
because
you're
trying
to
find
that
professional
job
that
might
not
be
available,
especially
overseas.
K
So
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
Please,
okay,
this
is
my
favorite
slide.
We
put
a
lot
of
pictures
on
there
that
really
just
give
a
good
idea
of
our
lifestyle
and
our
stories.
So
military
families
move
every
two
to
three
years.
That
is
picking
up
everything:
our
families,
our
dogs,
our
vehicles.
K
We
are
moving
either.
You
know
state
to
state
or
state
to
overseas
back
and
forth.
So
that's
every
two
to
three
years,
which
has
been
my
personal
story.
I
think
it's
been
kristin's
two.
Sometimes
it's
one
year.
That's
that's
a
hard
turnaround
and
actually
moving
two
to
three
years.
This
is
compared.
This
is
ten
times
more,
the
national
average
of
just
out
there
in
the
general
public.
When
you
know
our
civilian
counterparts
are
moving,
so
just
try
to
imagine
moving
every
two
to
three
years
and
it
doesn't
get
easier.
K
I
think
in
my
mind
you
know
I
think
sometimes
it's
going
to
get
easier
and
I'm
like
I
have
this
down.
It
does
not
get
any
easier
with
more
experience,
so
I
always
tell
this
funny
story,
but
usually
when
I
go
to
a
new
duty
station,
I
turn
around
and
at
the
school
they're
always
asking
for
an
emergency
contact
for
my
kids.
Usually
I
just
reach
out
to
my
neighbor
who
I
can
find
I'm
like
hey.
What's
your
name?
Oh
your
military
spouse.
Okay,
molly
smith.
K
I
don't
know
you,
but
do
you
mind
if
I
put
you
down
for
emergency
contact
for
my
kids?
What's
your
phone
number
and
most
likely
the
military
spouse
will
just
totally
agree
because
we
understand
each
other
situation
and
it's
just
not
easy,
and
that's
just
that's
just
the
lifestyle
that
you
know.
We
experience
that
every
day,
so
there's
great
camaraderie,
I
think
the
best
part
about
being
a
military
spouse,
but
we
are
moving
constantly
and
we
do
seek
a
lot
of
friends
and
resources
to
help
us
along.
So
this
is
a
full-time
job.
K
Moving
all
the
time.
Just
to
give
you
an
idea,
we're
securing
houses,
we're
trying
to
find
a
house
in
a
new
area
right
now.
The
housing
market
is
crazy.
Washington
dc
is
probably
the
hardest
place,
along
with
san
diego
and
finding
a
home,
I'm
actually
at
bah
right
now,
you're
turning
your
house
over
whether
you're,
leasing
or
you're,
moving
out
of
apartment
or
in
a
house
you're
cleaning
up
your
own
house
to
move
out
you're
arranging
pack
outs.
K
That's
like
express
shipment,
that's
household
goods,
I'm
sure
you
all
familiar
with
this,
but
you
know
that
could
be
a
time
frame
in
itself
of
so
several
different
moving
items
and
peop.
You
know
movers
coming
into
your
house
and
scheduling
it.
Some
things
going
into
storage,
especially
if
you're
going
overseas,
getting
your
car
ready
to
go
into
storage
moving
claims.
I
think
every
time
we
move,
we
have
a
moving
claim.
K
I
tell
the
story
because
it's
reality,
but
when
we
moved
overseas
to
washington
dc
two
years
ago,
I
had
to
do
a
claim-
and
I
just
received
a
check
two
weeks
ago
and
we're
now
in
okinawa
again,
so
that
can
be
a
slow
process,
but
one
you
have
to
be
very
persistent
at
schools
for
kids.
I
think
my
kids
have
been
in
three
different
schools
this
year.
K
It's
just
constant
change
around
for
them
and
transitioning
for
the
kids,
unpacking
items
turning
off
and
on
utilities,
if
you're
going
overseas
passports,
area
clearance,
immunizations
for
all
of
your
kids
and
your
family,
don't
forget
the
dogs,
because
the
dead,
the
dogs
have
certain
quarantine
rules
if
you're
going
overseas
and
finding
a
good
vet
to
make
sure
that
they
align
with
military
paperwork
new
friends
in
neighborhoods,
trying
to
just
figure
out
your
way
in
a
new
neighborhood,
where
you
know
no
one,
maybe
you're.
K
Lucky
enough
to
be
back
like
it's
great
to
be
back
in
okinawa,
because
I
know
where
to
get
a
car,
I
know
how
to
reach
out
for
housing.
It's
just
it's
different,
but
you
know
if
you're
brand
new
to
your
area,
just
it's
hard,
it's
hard
to
find
your
local
walmart,
sometimes
what's
a
safe
part
of
the
neighborhood.
K
What's
not
so
safe
good
schools
for
your
kids,
a
place
where
they're
individually
going
to
fit
in
and
then
all
of
that
is
going
on
whenever
your
active
duty
spouse
is
most
likely
on
a
deployment
or
tdui.
Why
is
the
spouse
so
you're
doing
all
that
fun
stuff
and
then
your
active
duty
spouse
is
usually
away,
so
military
spouses
are
very
essential
to
military
readiness
and
it's
a
full-time
job,
so
we
haven't
even
got
to
the
professional
licensing.
K
Yet
so
that's
just
our
everyday
life
so
we're
we
covered
the
general
landscape
of
what
our
lifestyle
looks
like
it's
not
normal.
It's
not
normal,
and
I
think
it
takes
a
very
unique
person
and
group
to
do
this.
But
we
just
wanted
to
share
that
because
sometimes
the
reality
of
it
is
it's
very
challenging
and
can
be
stressful
at
times.
K
Okay,
so
military
spouse
employment,
so
52
percent
of
active
duty,
spouses
and
32
percent
of
active
duty
service
members
responded
recently
that
military
spouse
employment
was
the
top
of
their
issue.
This
was
the
blue
star
family
survey
2020..
So
again,
it's
just
not
something.
You
know
that's
a
side
issue.
This
is
becoming
a
very
important
issue
that
the
federal
government
is
looking
at
with
department
of
defense
relaunching
for
rejoining
forces
just
started
up
again
a
white
house
initiative.
K
So
it's
you
know
it's
very
important
and
I
think
it's
being
recognized
that
spouse
employment
has
a
lot
to
do
with
military
retention
and
recruitment
and
that
quality
of
life
the
military
family
is
experiencing
and
saying
hey.
Is
it
time
to
get
out
there's
a
time?
Can
we
handle
this
as
a
family?
All
these
challenges
that
were
enduring
can
we
handle
it.
Military
spouses
had
an
unemployment
rate
of
24
in
february
2020
versus
the
national
average
of
3.5
percent.
That's
seven
times
the
national
average
seven
times.
K
I
think,
and
that
number
has
really
stayed
the
same
over
the
past
couple
of
years.
So
I
just,
I
think,
that's
really
eye-opening
to
know
that
42
of
spouses
who
are
employed
lost
their
job
during
the
pandemic.
K
Basically,
for
you
know,
child
care
usually
is
a
main
contributor
and
sometimes
the
military
spouse
schedule
is
just
somebody
something
has
to
give
and
usually
it's
the
military
spouse,
giving
up
their
job
33
of
spouses
reported
being
underemployed
again.
That's
very
common
is
for
military
spouses
to
be
underemployed,
not
just
unemployed,
so
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
Please,
okay.
I
think
this
slide
really
is
significant
here,
because
we're
going
to
see
the
breakdown
per
education
level
on
cents
per
loss
per
dollar.
K
So
you
know
chris-
and
I
were
talking
about
this,
but
really
in
some
way.
It's
a
penalty
like
you,
you
know,
you've
worked
a
long
time,
you've
gone
to
college,
you
have
the
master's
degree,
you've
gone
to
professional
school
and
you
know,
and
every
everybody
has
different
levels
of
education,
but
the
higher
you
go
up
in
education
as
military
spouse,
the
less
you're
going
to
earn
so
for
a
doctorate,
it's
45
cents
out
of
a
dollar
for
military
spouses.
K
K
You
know
that
it's
not
just
on
a
personal
level
as
a
military
spouse,
but
as
a
military
family
like
they're,
losing
out
on
money
to
save
for
after
military
life
and
for
that
transition
piece
and
when
the
spouse
is
not
working
continuously
over
the
years
or
being
underemployed
over
the
years
it
it's
like
a
kind
of
a
cycle
and
they're
just
not
getting
on
their
feet
like
a
normal
civilian
family
and
by
the
time
you
get
out
you're,
like
you
know,
I
haven't
worked
for
10
years.
How
do
I
get
the?
K
How
do
I
get
back
in
the
workforce
and
especially
transitioning
out
of
the
military?
It?
Really?
It's
not
just
the
spouse,
but
it's
the
military
family
that
can
be
negatively
affected
by
military
spouses,
not
being
employed
throughout
the
career
span
of
the
military
family.
So
just
something
to
think
about,
but
I
I
I
think
this
is
pretty
significant
over
time
as
to
the
money
lost
and
the
income
lost
for
the
military
family.
K
So
we
can
go
to
the
next
one.
Please,
okay,
so
general
employment
challenges,
so
we're
not
talking
professional
licensing.
Yet
we're
just
talking
general
challenges
that
any
spouse
who's
wanting
to
seek
employment
is
experiencing.
Child
care
is
always
an
issue.
It's
number
one
issue,
typically,
quality
child
care
and
affordable.
We
were
just
in
washington
dc
and
the
cost
of
child
care.
For
my
five-year-old,
just
a
normal
daycare
was
twenty
thousand
dollars
a
year
which
really
that
played
into
me
not
working
in
dc,
along
with
the
supervising
attorney
requirement
for
the
virginia
bar.
K
So
a
lot
of
factors
again
playing
here,
but
child
care
is
always
an
issue
and
even
on
cdc
lists
like
fort
belvoir,
I
think
was
a
six
month.
Wait
for
us,
so
I
couldn't
go
on
to
base
because
even
when
we
got
there,
the
waitlist
was
so
long
worth
it.
So
cdc's
usually
are
packed
and
there's
a
long
list
for
military
spouses.
K
And
then
you
have
the
service
members
work
schedule
it's
usually
long
or
unpredictable.
So
it
takes
the
spouse
kind
of
being
the
glue
to
make
sure
that
the
active
duty
service
member
can
perform
their
job
and
do
it
well.
So
sometimes
that's
plays
into
employment,
also
recovering
from
pcs,
the
average
the
national
average.
K
I
think
of
pcs
recovery
time
is
six
months
just
to
get
started
again
to
get
your
feet
under
you
to
get
your
household
in
order
to
start
even
looking
for
jobs
to
start
looking
for
that
child
care,
it's
taking
six
months
at
least
loss
of
network,
especially
if
you've
been
overseas,
the
people
that
you
kind
of
knew
at
home.
That's
not
there
anymore.
You've
lost
contact,
it's
hard
to
stay
in
contact
and
stay.
You
know
kind
of
in
the
news
what's
going
on
career-wise
or
even
just
your
community-wise,
because
you've
lost
your
community.
K
So
we
have
an
awesome
network
and
we
know
a
lot
of
employment
opportunities
come
through
networking
and
the
connections
that
you
have
just
personally
discrimination
in
the
hiring
process.
I've
actually
have
had
this
happen
off
the
record
in
new
jersey,
someone
said
I
was
not
hired
because
I
was
the
military
spouse
and
they
went
with
a
local
hire.
So
that
does
happen.
K
License
portability
issues
for
professionals.
You
know
meeting
those
state
requirements
for
professional
licensing,
lack
of
experience.
So,
if
you're
not
able
to
work
at
a
job
where
your
skill
set
matches,
then
that
sometimes
prevents
promotion
which
prevents
the
next
promotion
so
and
you're
taking
a
different
job
in
a
different
field,
so
that
continuity
between
career
is
hard
for
military
spouses
which
in
the
end
again
can
add
up
and
then
limited
overseas
work
experiences
as
the
forces
agreement.
K
Sometimes
you
know
you
can't
just
go
out
in
town
and
work,
so
most
jobs
would
be
on
base
and
they're
very
limited,
and
if
you're,
specialized
or
professional,
sometimes
those
jobs
are
not
available
and
then
just
trying
to
beat
that
time
clock
between
doing
it
all
between
one
tour
to
see.
If
that
job
will
work
out
so
you're
getting
there
you're
getting
settled,
you
have
to
get
child
care,
usually
to
go
apply
for
jobs
or
to
interview.
K
You
need
to
have
child
care
set
in
place
for
even
that,
because
your
active
duty
service
member
is
at
work
so
and
so
all
of
that
time
frame
of
trying
to
get
it
all
in
in
one
tour
to
establish
a
job
can
be
hard.
So
all
right,
thank
you.
We
go
to
the
next
slide,
please,
okay,
so
we
just
talked
about
the
military
spouse
lifestyle.
Then
we
just
talked
about
the
general
challenges
that
every
military
spouse
who's
looking
for
employment
is
experiencing.
K
Now
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
specific
challenges
that
professional
licensed
spouses
experience.
So
with
that
with
having.
I
know
christians
barred
in
several
states,
and
then
I
have
some.
I
have
teaching
licenses
and
just
one
bar
membership,
which
I'm
that's
that's
plenty
for
me.
K
We
have
a
couple
of
things
going
on
so
when
you're
moving
state
to
state
part
of
this
is
finding
the
right
person
to
talk
to
once
you
want
to
go
to
another
state
and
practice
or
teach
or
be
a
cosmetologist,
whatever
you're
trying
to
do
you're
looking
for
the
correct
person
to
talk
to
and
then
trying
to
find
what
their
rules
and
regulations
are.
So
once
you
do
that,
you're
going
to
be
trying
to
find
you
know,
send
in
your
official
transcripts
your
education
paperwork
for
teachers.
K
A
lot
of
that
has
to
do
with
different
college
courses
and
making
sure
you
meet
that
state's
requirements
for
college
courses.
Letters
of
good
standing
for
the
bar
your
test
results
could
be.
The
praxis
could
be
the
multi-state
making
sure
that's
sent
in
and
then
all
also
like
hours
of
practicum.
That
you've
done
for
your
job
in
a
previous
state
to
make
sure
that
matches
the
state's
requirements,
especially
for
teaching
okay
and
then
so,
just
in
maintaining
the
licensing
too.
All
right
next
slide.
Please
all
right!
K
L
A
just
a
tight,
you
know
pull
together
some
of
these
threads.
I
mean,
I
think,
aaron
gave
you
a
really
great
scatter
shot.
View
of
this
is
exactly
what
a
military
spouse
is
going
through.
So
much
of
the
unpaid
labor
that
supports
the
military
falls
on
the
shoulder
of
spouses
and
it
happens
every
other
summer
when
we
move,
and
once
we
get
everybody
else
settled,
that's
when
we're
able
to
turn
to
our
own
goals
and
pick
up
where
we
left
off
to
secure
the
next
license
secure
the
next
job.
L
So
how
does
house
bill
251
fit
into
this?
We
are
not
asking
you
to
solve
all
these
problems
and
you
can't
possibly
solve
all
these
problems,
but
251
is
a
tangible
step
that
this
body
can
take
to
show
your
unflagging
support
for
military
spouses
and
our
families.
You
have
the
tangible
side
of
just
relieving
some
of
the
financial
burden
when
it
comes
to
achieving
these
licenses
and
renewing
them,
but
I
think
the
intangible
is
the
bigger
value
here
it.
It
is
sending
a
very
crystal
clear
message
to
military
families
that
we
see
your
struggle.
L
We
understand
what
you're
going
through
and
kentucky
supports.
You
kentucky
is
going
to
do
what
it
can
to
lessen
those
burdens
and
take
something
off
of
your
list,
because
that
list
just
is
never
ending
and
on
the
next
slide
you
can
see
the
ripple
effects.
L
It's
not
just
kentucky,
and
it's
not
just
one
family
here
and
one
family.
There
erin
put
together
this
slide
on
the
three
r's,
so
I'll.
Let
her
kind
of
close
out
the
program
for
you.
K
Yeah
and
back
to
hospital
251,
it's
a
waiver
of
professional
dues
for
military
spouses
licensed
in
kentucky,
so
that
could
be
a
licensed
attorney,
who
just
first
got
their
license
in
kentucky
and
has
you
know
traveled
around
the
world
like
I
have,
and
it's
not
just
for
attorneys,
which
is
amazing,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
spouses
who
have
different
careers
like
we're
representing
the
attorney
side.
K
But
you
know
we
have
cosmetologists,
we
have
real
estate
agents,
we
have
speech
pathologists,
we
have
physicians,
it's
very
diverse
in
terms
of
career
for
military
spouses
and
just
alleviating
one
thing
to
think
about
it's
huge
to
us,
and
it
shows
that
somebody's
looking
at
us,
I'm
saying
we
understand
and
we
want
to
make
it
easier
for
you
and
we've
thought
of
you
just
like
we
thought
of
you
as
the
active
duty
service
member,
and
I
think
we
have
to
start
thinking
too,
as
the
afternoon
service
member
and
spouse
together
as
one
family
unit
which
goes
back
to
this
slide
too.
K
Anything
that
we
can
do
for
the
spouse
is
helping
the
active
duty
service
member
do
their
job
and
what
they
need
to
be
doing
with
the
mission
and
because
it
helps
us
kind
of
say,
hey.
I
don't
have
a
problem
here,
got
it
covered,
we
can
transition
easily.
You
go.
Do
your
job,
we're
good,
but
these
little
these
little
challenges
that
come
up
all
the
time.
It
just
keeps
on
getting
heavier
and
heavier,
and
at
some
point
the
spouse
says:
hey
honey.
I
don't
know
about
this
military
thing
anymore.
K
Our
kids
are
transitioning
all
the
time,
I'm
transitioning
all
the
time.
It's
probably
time
we
get
out,
and
so
the
significance
of
this
is
recruiting
retention,
return,
recruiting.
What's
military
life
going
to
be
like
for
me,
and
my
spouse
again
that
population
of
military
spouses
it's
changing
a
lot
and
they're
thinking
about.
What's
my
job
going
to
look
like
what's
quality
of
life
going
to
look
for
us
so
recruiting
also
retention?
This
is
huge
right
now
in
determining
when
people
are
going
to
get
out
of
the
military
or
not.
K
What
else
percent
we've
seen
a
lot
of
companies
start
to
reach
out
to
military
spouses
because
they
see
how
valuable
they
are,
but
it
really
in
the
big
picture.
It
matters,
it's
just
not
a
personal
story,
but
when
we
think
about
national
security
like
keeping
those
highly
qualified
active
duty
service
members
in
and
helping
the
spouse
transition
to
really
really
helps
with
all
of
these
items.
Here,
with
with
you
know,
military
retention
and
national
security-
and
you
know,
department
of
defense
is
looking
at
that
blue
star
survey.
K
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Both
we
do
have
at
least
one
question
representative
bratcher.
You
on
the
line
would
like
to
ask
a
question.
A
B
Erin,
it's
good
to
see
you
again
and
I
wanted
to
for
your
excellent
presentation,
as
we
think
about
ways
that
we
can
make
kentucky
a
more
veteran
friendly
state
and
a
more
military
state.
You've
done
an
excellent
job
of
showing
us
the
way
and
you've
also
shown
us
how
women
in
particular
find
that
there
is
a
military
spouse,
wage
gap
that
we
absolutely
need
to
address.
So
thank
you.
So
much
for
all
of
this
data
look
forward
to
seeing
this
bill
come
january.
K
Thank
you
so
much,
and
I
just
want
to
say
too,
kentucky
is
like
the
first
state
to
look
at
waving
professional
dues.
So
I
was
telling
kristin
I'm
really
proud
of
my
home
state
because
I
feel,
like
other
states,
might
adopt
this
as
well,
and
I'm
just
really
proud
that
kentucky
might
be
the
first
to
do
that
and
we're
hopeful
for.
C
Yes,
sir,
well,
first
guys
that
was
a
great
presentation.
I
can
only
hear
it.
I
can't
see
it
and
aaron.
You
know
we
love
your
father
and
we
can
tell
that
he's
done
a
good
job
raising
you,
so
that
was
pretty
much
on
display
on
this
audio
version
I'm
listening
to,
but
the
question
is
back
to
the
difficulties
that
military
families
have.
You
know
I
was
in
the
navy
and
that
I
had
always
heard-
and
I
saw
quite
frequently
that
that
the
navy
had
sea
duty
and
that
was
really
particularly
hard
on
marriages.
C
K
I
don't
yeah,
I
don't
think
we
broke
it
down
with
deployments
or
sea
duty,
because
it
differs
branch
to
branch
and
we'd
have
to
look
into
that
for
you,
but
we
don't
have
that
on
here.
Unfortunately,.
C
L
Yes,
ma'am,
I
would
say
you
know.
Overall,
military
spouses
are
about
eight
percent
male
and
within
our
bar
association.
Our
membership
is
five
to
ten
percent
male.
So
it
is
an
interesting
diversity
statistic:
there
you're
right,
there
are
male
spouses
and
that
population
is
growing
and
we
do
have
quite
a
bit
of
participation.
L
We've
had
multiple
male
members
of
our
board
of
directors,
so
we
absolutely
do
see
that
and
we
acknowledge
that
they
face
their
own
challenges
when
it
comes
to
the
stereotypes
and
and
the
discrimination
and
just
the
misunderstanding
that
you
sometimes
see
in
the
community,
so
you're
you're,
absolutely
right.
We
have
that
population
and
it
is.
C
K
K
They
learn
that
they're
not
alone
in
their
experiences,
because
their
experiences
are
very
different
than
female
military
spouses,
and
but
I
think
overall,
social
media
has
really
brought
us
together
and
connected
us,
because
we're
so
I
mean
we're
one
group,
but
we're
always
so
far
apart
from
each
other
and
that
the
military
spouse,
the
male
military
spouses
are
definitely,
I
think,
becoming
more
active
and
engaged
and
known
in
the
military
spouse
community
and
definitely
more
included.
A
Well,
both
of
y'all,
kristen
and
aaron.
Thank
you
so
much
for
for
your
service.
We
know
it
is
as
tough
for
the
military
spouse
as
it
is
the
military
member
and-
and
we
appreciate
you
and
your
families,
for
what
you
do
to
keep
us
safe
in
this
country.
So
we
can
be
here
for
you,
so
that
was
a
great
segue.
We
will
lead
right
on
to
eric
sherman
the
department
of
defense.
A
A
A
All
right,
thank
you
and,
as
members
can
tell
we're
kind
of
discussing
today
about
some
opportunities
for
spouses,
employment
and
everything.
This
is
a
great
segue
and
the
floor
is
yours.
I
think
we
everybody,
if
you
notice
that
we
actually
have
packets
again
and
there
are
copies
of
the
slides
in
case
there's
not
a
tv
close
to
you.
I
Good
morning,
good
morning,
chair
thomas
committee,
members,
honor
guests,
thank
you
for
inviting
me
here
this
morning
to
talk
about
licensure
portability.
I
think
we're
working
on
bringing
the
slides
up,
but
until
then
I'll
just
continue.
It's
my
understanding
that
you
have
a
paper
copy.
Is
that
correct?
Mr
chair.
A
I
I
at
that
point,
which
I
retired
I've
been
married
to
my
wife,
catherine
for
most
of
that
20
years,
actually
for
about
31
years,
and
we
have
a
son
and
a
daughter
who's
been
with
us
also
for
most
of
those
20
years.
So
we've
been
a
military
family
for
most
of
my
career
and
we've
experienced
many
of
the
issues
that
you've
heard
today
and
which
I'm
about
to
talk
about
specifically,
my
wife
catherine
has
also
experienced
a
lot
of
the
career
problems
that
you
just
heard.
I
Next
slide,
I've
had
an
opportunity
to
work
with
a
number
of
you,
senator
higdon,
representative
freeland,
chair
thomas.
You
know
we
thank
you
for
your
support
that
you've,
given
us
over
the
years
for
the
rest
of
you.
I'd
just
like
to
briefly
talk
about
who
the
defense
state
liaison
office
is
the
the
dslo
as
we
call
it,
was
established
in
2004
to
provide
continuity
and
communications
between
the
department
of
defense
and
the
states
for
addressing
personal
and
readiness
quality
of
life
issues
which
intersect
with
state
policy
as
opposed
to
federal
policy.
I
Oh,
so
we
work
with
state
policy
makers
and
stakeholders,
policymakers,
like
yourselves
and
stakeholders,
like
the
kentucky
commission
on
military
affairs,
to
help
them
understand
the
issues
so
that
the
states
can
develop
more
effective
policy.
But
we
also
work
with
military
leaders
to
help
prepare
them
for
their
state
level.
Policy.
Discussions
as
well.
I
I
We
also
track
the
activity
on
these
issues
in
near
real
time
as
they
move
through
the
legislatures
during
your
sessions.
So
if
you
want
to
see
what's
happening
with
the
issues
to
compare
what's
happening
around
the
country,
you
can
observe
them
on
our
portal
at
state
policy,
dot,
military,
one
source,
dot,
mil.
I
State-Specific
laws
are
important
to
reducing
the
burden
associated
with
the
occupational
licensing
of
military
spouses
and,
in
this
respect,
kentucky
continues
to
make
it
easier
to
use
another
state's
license
when
kentucky
passed
house
bill
323
in
2019.
In
my
opinion,
this
was
a
great
piece
of
policy.
I
I
Providing
this
information
to
the
military
spouses
is
another
difficult
piece,
because
the
spouses
have
to
go
to
the
websites
typically
find
the
information,
find
the
application
and
see
how
what
processes
are
in
place
to
to
assist
them,
and
it
often
is
not
available.
Can
I
turn
the
volume
down
on
here,
because
I'm
getting
confused
with
the
echo.
I
So
one
of
the
things
we'd
like
to
work
on
is
it's
possibly
how
to
make
that
information
more
readily
available.
I
I
will
say
that
the
people
that
work
in
the
on
the
boards
they're
very
knowledgeable
about
the
process
from
my
experience,
they're
very
knowledgeable
about
how
to
help
the
spouses
and
whenever
I
present
them
with
I'll
call
them
glitches
where
a
spouse
gets
a
hold
of
me
and
says
that
they're
having
a
problem
with
their
with
their
application.
It's
resolved
within
24
hours,
and
I
can't
say
that
about
all
my
states.
I
So
when
factoring
these
two
separately,
they
align
with
short-term
and
long-term
legislative
objectives
and
that's
what
this
slide.
Attempts
to
convey
the
short-term
objectives
provide
some
assistance,
but
still
require
a
spouse
to
re-license
and
when
you're.
Looking
at
this
slide,
the
color
dynamics
shows
where
there's
no
portability
at
the
bottom
and
true
portability
at
the
top
with
occupational
interstate
compacts,
and
you
see
with
the
house
bill
323.
I
I
Both
initiatives
are
important
and
my
office
is
working
with
the
military
services
to
help
them
understand
the
merits
of
each
and
use
these
standards
in
their
strategic,
basing
evaluations.
I
mentioned
this
last
point
because
we
want
you
to
know
that
our
office
is
working
to
help
the
services
understand
your
attempts
to
help
our
families.
I
Interstate
compacts
offer
a
standardized
approach
to
licensing
which
alleviates
the
confusion
that
our
military
spouses
receive
as
a
transfer
between
the
member
states
again.
So
your
individual
licensing
laws,
regardless
of
how
effective
they
are
often
differ
between
states,
causes
some
confusion
with
our
spouses,
interstate
compacts,
standardize.
The
approach
across
all
member
states
right
now
kentucky
is
getting
recognized
as
one
of
our
top
tier
states,
because
you
have
membership
in
four
or
more
compacts.
I
Looking
at
the
remaining
compacts
kentucky
is
not
yet
a
member
of
the
emergency
medical
systems
compact
and
two
other
professions
which
only
joined
this
year
to
establish
their
professional
compacts,
occupational
therapists
and
licensed
professional
counselors.
That's
what
we're
really
here
to
talk
about
today.
I
For
example,
these
compacts
provide
the
following
benefits
to
members
of
the
military
community.
The
nurse
licensure
con
compact,
the
advanced
practitioner
nurse
compact,
the
physical
therapy
compact,
the
occupational
therapy
compact
and
the
audiology
speech.
Licensure
compact
and
the
counseling
compact
allow
military
spouses
to
designate
a
home
state
for
their
license
and
use
the
privilege
to
practice
provision
to
work
in
any
member
state
without
obtaining
another
license.
The
ems
compact
simplifies
endorsement
requirements
for
transferring
a
license.
I
I
That's
our
perspective,
but
some
of
the
compact
executive
directors
actually
say
it
best.
Dan
muns
from
the
ems
compact
said.
While
the
ems
compact
is
committed
to
supporting
our
military
veterans
and
their
spouses,
it
also
enables
the
cross-border
practice
of
emts
and
paramedics
licensed
in
another
ems
compact
member
states.
I
She
emphasizes
that
compacts
are
the
most
durable
way
to
enhance
services
and
provide
flexibility
long-term
while
respecting
individual
state
practice,
acts
and
regulations.
I
want
to
stress
that
last
part,
while
enhanced
services
provide
flexibility
long
term,
while
respecting
individual
state
practice,
acts
and
regulations.
I
A
Thank
you
eric.
We
do
have
a
question,
but
I
do
want
to
say
that
that
some
of
these
compacts
obviously
go
through
lno.
Usually
we
had
three
last
year
and
that's
the
proper
channel
for
him,
but
I
wanted
to
bring
eric
today
to
show
what
a
need
it
is
for
the
military
community
for
some
of
these,
how
important
it
is
to
them
so
saying
that
senator
higdon.
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
you
test
on
what
I
was
going
to
say.
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
that's!
Okay!
That's
that's
good!
I
think
it
it'd
be
very
good
for
eric
to
testify
at
some
time
in
license
and
occupation.
I
think
the
more
the
general
assembly
here
in
kentucky
is,
I
think,
pretty
consistent
of
working
to
make
kentucky
the
most
military-friendly
state
in
the
in
the
country.
J
A
Thank
you,
senator
higdon
you're,
exactly
right.
They
are
sticky
and
and
y'all.
We
passed
in
the
house,
and
I
think
you
had
a
little
bit
of
changes
last
year
on
them
and
and
they
were
well
put
in
changes
where
we
can
still
control
the
authority
but
still
have
them
to
be
able
to
practice
across
different
state
lines.
Representative
wheatley.
J
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you,
sir,
for
the
for
this
presentation
and
and
senator
for
his
comments
related
to
lno.
K
J
The
stickiness
of
some
of
these
compacts
and
and
how
important
they
are,
which
leads
me
to
the
question
simple
question
is:
do
you
anticipate
each
compact
to
be
a
separate
bill,
and
I
am
asking
this
question
based
on
that
they're
all
being
a
little
bit
sticky
and
in
different
groups
have
in
different
perspectives
so
like,
for
instance,
the
ems
compact?
Would
that
be
in
your
anticipation,
separate
build
and
perhaps
the
some
of
the
other
compacts.
A
I
I
can
almost
answer
that
to
carrying
some
compacts
last
year,
they
range
anywhere
from
29
to
30ish
pages
on
on
up.
I
think
one
last
year
was
almost
60
and
they
are
specific
to
that
industry.
So
I
think
it
would
probably
be
easier
if
those
are
the
three
topics
that
we're
looking
at
this
year:
ot
licensures
for
professional
and
then
ems,
I
think
so.
I
think
it
probably
would
be
better
to
have
three
but
eric
you
can
testify
to
that,
and
cinder
higdon
can
probably
come
comment
too.
I
Mr
chair,
thank
you.
If
I
may
one
of
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
do
now
that
we've
gone
through
a
number
of
these
and
for
the
next
iteration
we
are
trying
to
standardize
the
language
in
in
the
for
the
last
ones.
For
instance,
with
the
exception
of
the
ems,
the
other
two
are
very
similar
in
language
and
we're
trying
to
keep
the
language
similar
so
that
when
it
comes
before
the
legislatures,
the
only
thing
that
is
changing
is
the
name
and
we're,
since
the
administrative
process
is
pretty
much
the
same.
I
So
mr
chair,
the
ems
bill
definitely
is
going
to
be
a
little
bit
different,
but
the
other
two
are
are
going
to
be
very
similar.
So
we've
seen
there
has
been
two
states
that
have
done
an
omnibus
bill,
but
to
what?
What
the
chair
said,
it
is
difficult
because
the
other
boards
have
to
still
review
these,
and
typically
other
committees
have
to
review
them.
J
I
and,
and
that's
a
very
good
point.
We
have
great
staff
here
at
the
lrc
and
we'll
defer
to
them
on
this.
Probably
what
now
the
best
way
to
approach
these
and
see
see
how
it
see
how
it
works
out.
That
would
be
my
advice,
but
but
I
think
it's
really
good
to
know
for
everyone
to
know
how
important
this
is
to
the
military
military
spouses
that
we
get
this
done
and
thank
you
again
for
being
here
today
to
help
us
better
understand
the
necessity
for
these
compacts.
C
I
No,
sir,
only
from
the
I
can't
elaborate
on
the
specifics
of
the
compact
only
that
that
was
one
of
the
first
compacts,
so
my
office
had
not
coordinated
as
much
as
they
are
right
now.
It's
just
lessons
learned
that
our
office
has
right
now
in
trying
to
standardize
compacts
dan
manz
is
the
coordinator
for
ems.
I
A
You
eric
has
sent
me
some
of
the
information
and
some
of
the
contact
people
for
all
three
of
these
so
mark
I'll
I'll
talk
to
you
after.
A
A
A
A
E
Now:
okay,
dr
dallas
kratzer,
I'm
the
cyber
security
grant
manager
for
kcma
and
we
are
standing
up
a
cyber
security
program
at
the
university
of
louisville,
which
will
be
engaging
transitioning
service
members
veterans
and
their
spouses
to
reskill
or
upskill
them
into
cyber
security
jobs
here
within
the
commonwealth.
So
that's
our
intention
right
now.
H
Dr
kratzer
worked
for
me
in
the
air.
National
guard
is
lieutenant
colonel
he's,
a
graduate
of
the
school
of
advanced
aerospace
studies,
which
is
one
of
the
most
prestigious
schools
in
the
air
force
and
he's
doing
a
great
job
glad
to
have
him
here
I'll
try
to
go
through
this
quickly.
I
know
we're
pressed
on
time,
but
first
off,
I
wanted
to
say
that
house
bill
251.
Last
year
we
absolutely
loved
that
bill.
It
popped
up
representative
massey
brought
that
up
without
working
with
us,
and
we
saw
everything
we
see
about
it.
H
We
love
it,
but
that
is
a
bill
that
gives
additional
benefits.
Over
and
above
the
compacts,
the
compacts
are
the
essential
element
for
supporting
military
spouses
and
they're
the
things
we
have
to
prioritize
and
if
we
can
do
things
like
house
bill
251,
that
is
just
fantastic.
It
sets
kentucky
apart
and
helps
us
toward
that
goal
of
being
the
most
military
friendly
state
in
the
country.
H
On
our
discussion
points
today,
you
see
those
here
I'll
I'll
go
through
each
of
those
in
a
little
bit
of
detail.
Next
slide,
please,
but
first,
let's
start
with
supporting
dod
priorities
and
we've
known
eric
sherman
a
lot
of
us
for
a
long
time,
including
myself.
I
worked
with
him
in
the
national
guard
great
partner
and
we
communicate
frequently
during
the
session
with
phone
calls
and
trading
emails.
They
have
some
great
websites
and
I
need
to
hang
some
of
those
links
out
on
our
kentucky
commission
on
military
affairs
website.
H
I
need
to
get
better
about
doing
that
and
we
will
and
we'll
be
putting
those
out
in
social
media,
but
again,
kentucky
is
considered
a
legislative
best
practice.
State
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
great
things.
It's
been
a
great
working
relationship
and
the
legislature
has
been
the
essential
element
in
that.
Your
work
on
state
boards
of
commissions,
with
compacts
house
bill
323
in
2019
that
initially
did
the
reciprocal
licensure
and
then
added
national
guard
spouses.
Those
are
great
great
things,
additionally,
we're
kind
of
raising
our
profile
nationally.
H
Let's
we'll
talk
kentucky
right
now
we're
a
member
of
38
interstate
compacts,
the
average
state's
a
member
of
34.,
so
kentucky's
doing
a
great
job.
With
this
and
we'll
talk
about
the
dod
priorities.
Eric
mentioned
that
we
are
right
now,
members
of
four
out
of
the
current
five
dod
priority,
compacts
they've,
just
added
two
more
so
we
joined
the
audi
audiology
speech,
language,
pathology,
compact
in
the
psychology,
inner
jurisdictional
compact
last
session,
2021
great
job,
the
work
of
the
sponsors
and
the
boards
and
lrc
staff,
and
getting
those
together
was
phenomenal.
H
That
was
the
best
I've
ever
seen.
We
had
earlier
joined
the
physical
therapy
licensure
and
enhanced
nurse
licensure
compacts.
Those
are
absolutely
terrific.
Technically
we're
not
a
member
of
the
emergency
medical
services.
Compact,
but
you
pass
legislation
in
2020
that
does
virtually
everything
that
compact
does,
but
what
it
doesn't
do
is
join
the
compact
so
because
it
doesn't
join
the
compact.
Those
licenses
aren't
exportable
as
eric
mentioned,
which
is
why
that
makes
it
critical
for
us
to
actually
become
a
member.
H
So
that's
the
one
loop
that
we'd
like
to
close,
but
we
are
doing
the
essential
elements
of
that
compact.
We
have
two
newly
identified
priorities
in
the
occupational
therapy:
licensure
and
licensed
professional
counseling
compacts.
Those
have
been
vetted
by
council
of
state
governments.
All
of
these
are-
and
so
it's
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
identify
sponsors
and
get
together
with
the
boards
and
commissions
and
making
sure
that
it
meets
everything
that
kentucky
wants
out
of
these,
and
you
can
do
some
tweaking
internally
for
your
state.
H
But
you
have
to
meet
what
the
is
the
approved
compact
language
to
join
the
national
compact.
So
those
are
our
first
priorities:
we're
working
with
council
of
state
governments
and
eric
and
his
team
to
develop
more
compacts,
including
a
teacher's
compact,
which
would
be
a
huge
win.
So
look
for
more
along
those
lines,
but
we're
going
to
there'll
be
more
coming
and
we
also
in
the
kentucky
commission
on
military
affairs.
H
We
run
something
called
the
military
children,
interstate
children's
compact
commission,
I'm
iron
dawson's,
a
member
of
that
and
on
from
the
legislative
side,
and
we
do
great
work
with
fort
knox
for
campbell
national
guard
just
supporting
military
families
transitioning
in
and
out
of
kentucky,
and
we
have
we
succeed
literally
every
case.
We
had
a
very
difficult
one
two
weeks
ago
that
I
didn't
think
we'd.
H
Actually
I
thought
we'd
finally
not
succeed,
but
we
succeeded
in
that
one
too
so
great
work
and
our
focus
is
to
continue
working
with
all
the
state
agencies
to
continue
doing
this,
and
very
specifically
eric
mentioned
the
challenges
of
house
bill
323
when
we
passed.
That
is,
that
is
getting
that
word
out
to
all
the
boards
and
commissions
and
making
sure
they
understand
and
so
we're
taking
that
on.
H
As
our
test
in
the
kentucky
commission
on
military
affairs,
I've
got
the
points
of
contacts
for
every
boarding
commission
in
the
state
and
we're
going
to
be
reaching
out
to
them
to
tell
them
here's
how
you
can
comply
with
this
law,
how
you
need
to
what
what
you
can
do
with
your
websites
and
outreach,
so
those
are
priorities
for
us
soon.
We
promise
we'll
get
we'll
get
cracking
on
that
hard
on
next
military
spouse
and
installation
websites.
H
The
military
has
really
done
a
terrific
job
in
recent
years,
very
recently,
of
expanding
their
the
ability
of
military
families
to
tap
into
resources
so
fort
campbell.
They
have
their
garrison
website
here.
If
you
go
to
that
website,
it'll
come
up
and
give
you
all
kinds
of
different
things
that
you
can
go
to
areas
to
get
help
as
a
military
family.
From
you
know,
transit
coming
in
going
out
fort
knox
has
a
very
similar
website
now,
which
I've
got
here.
H
One
thing
that's
different
is
that
fort
campbell
has
both
fort
knox
and
fort
campbell
have
created,
spouse
employment,
centers,
the
spouse.
Employment
center
has
a
website
at
fort
campbell
under
the
broad
garrison
website,
and
they
have
a
terrific
group
down
a
beautiful
building
dallas
and
I
went
down
and
visited
them
a
couple
months
ago.
They're
doing
great
things
and
we've
got
some
great
partnerships
going
with
them.
H
Fort
knox
is
doing
their
spouse
support
through
the
knox
regional
development
alliance
and
our
terrific
partner,
with
brigadier
general
jim
iacocca,
who
chairs
the
kentucky
commission
on
military
affairs,
and
they
created
a
website
through
greater
knox.com
to
facilitate
hiring
in
the
in
the
greater
elizabethtown
area.
Basically
fort
knox
area
working
with
the
kentucky
career
center,
lincoln
trail
and
the
lincoln
trail
workforce
development
board,
and
they
were
recognized
as
a
best
practice
for
this
website
by
the
association
of
defense
communities.
So
we're
doing
a
lot
of
really
good
things
and
that's
my
part
dallas.
E
I'm
going
to
talk
briefly
about
what
we're
doing
with
our
grant.
The
grant
has
two
components:
one,
the
cyber
security,
which
is
a
major
component,
but
we're
also
tasked
with
doing
workforce
initiatives,
because
not
only
do
we
want
to
have
a
greater
number
of
cyber
security
folks
with
the
education
and
background
and
certificates
and
degrees,
we
need
to
find
the
employment
opportunities
here
within
the
commonwealth
and
we're
working
with
sherm
the
society
of
human
resource
managers
to
get
the
word
out.
E
We
recently
did
a
podcast
with
the
kentucky
chamber
of
commerce
and
sherm
to
help
them
to
understand
how
they
can
employ
veterans
coming
out
of
the
military,
along
with
that
we're
pursuing.
How
do
we
create
apprenticeship
opportunities
for
veterans
who
are
already
in
the
commonwealth
and
their
spouses
so
that
we
can
attract
them
in
and,
as
mr
sherman
talked
about,
the
making
a
home
state
where
someone
can
get
their
training
yet
export
it
to
other
communities?
E
Kentucky
has
the
opportunity
to
do
that
on
a
number
of
fronts,
particularly
on
the
cyber
security
side,
so
we're
focused
there,
but
we're
also
working
to
develop
these
apprenticeships
with
our
local
agencies.
That
will
allow
us
to
be
that
home
state
for
spouses,
also,
particularly
in
the
area
of
teacher
education.
E
Senator
higdon,
I
think,
was
on
the
k-web
meeting,
where
we
talked
about
that
to
some
extent,
and
it
will
allow
us
to
also
export
this
to
apprenticeship
opportunities
for
spouses
to
do
the
same
thing
if
they've
not
attained
their
degree
their
certificate
for
teaching
in
high
schools.
We
can
equip
them
to
do
that
and
then
be
part
of
exporting
that
across
the
country.
So
it's
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
grow
what
we're
doing.
E
Additionally,
we
want
to
focus
on
in
our
next
phase,
we're
in
phase
three
right
now,
but
in
phase
four
of
our
grant
that
we
are
working
on
right
now.
We
want
to
see
how
we
can
connect
with
other
agencies,
particularly
in
the
workforce
cabinet,
with
michelle
dejean
and
her
team,
who
are
doing
apprenticeships
across
the
board
in
the
commonwealth.
E
But
we
want
to
focus
on
the
veteran
community
in
the
military
community,
which
has
been
not
well
engaged
only
because
we're
not
familiar
with
the
two
installations
that
we
have
a
lot
a
lot
of
activity
going
on
in
those
areas,
but
we
have
veterans,
300,
000
veterans
in
kentucky
and
they
have
spouses
across
the
commonwealth,
and
we
need
to
reach
out
to
every
county
in
the
commonwealth
to
to
share
this
information.
So
we'll
look
at
doing
this
with
also
higher
education,
for
example
the
compact
for
dental
hygienists.
E
In
that
area,
the
kctcs
system
is
looking
at
how
they
can
partner
with
us
to
create
those
opportunities
to
teach
spouses
in
this
field
and
veterans
so
that
they
can
again
use
this
as
their
home
state
to
go
out
to
other
areas
and
then
come
back
because
the
the
initiative
here.
How
do
we
draw
veterans
back
to
kentucky
when
they
leave
the
service?
There
are
over
two
hundred
thousand
veterans
leaving
the
service
every
year,
and
out
of
that,
kentucky
has
about
three
or
four
thousand
that
come
back.
E
We
need
to
become
as
attractive
as
possible,
not
only
by
being
military
friendly,
but
by
being
military
ready
to
engage
these
folks
with
past
pathways
to
employment
when
they
are
ready
to
come
back
here.
But,
more
importantly,
we
need
to
create
that
incentive,
while
they're
here
and
then
they
travel
somewhere
else,
just
as
we
heard
earlier,
they
moved
back
to
wyoming
because
they
found
a
place
they
loved.
She
went
back
to
wyoming
before
her
military
member
separated
from
the
military.
We
need
to
make
that
same
type
of
initiative
priority
here
in
in
the
commonwealth.
H
And
just
jumping
in
on
that,
it's
like
eric,
said
with
the
true
portability,
so
we
want
to
attract
veterans
to
retire
to
kentucky.
We
want
to
attract
kentuckians
who
join
the
military
to
come
back
to
kentucky.
We
want
to
attract
military
that
come
through
fort
knox
and
fort
campbell
and
possibly
bluegrass
army
depot
or
recruiters
to
like
what
they
see
in
kentucky
so
much
that
they
decide
to
make
kentucky
their
final
destination.
So
those
are
the
things
we're
trying
to
do.
E
One
of
the
the
best
things
that
I
think
we're
doing
with
kcma
right
now
is
further
developing
our
relationship
with
kdva
kentucky
department
of
veteran
affairs
so
that
we
can
take
all
these
stove
pipes
and
have
one
central
agency
that
people
can
come
to
once.
They've
left
the
military
we
on
the
kcma
side,
where
all
things
military,
we
can
help
facilitate
their
work
for
those
veterans
that
return
to
the
commonwealth.
H
And
one
thing
I
love
to
stress
about
kcma
is
that
we
only
have
two
full-time
state
employees,
myself
and
stacy
shane,
and
we
have
dallas
with
his
group
and
we're
bringing
on
dr
sean
owens
with
the
university
of
louisville
through
the
federal
contract,
to
help
us
as
well,
and
but
we
we
don't
own
anything.
We
have
no
resources.
H
We
have
no
budget,
we
have
no
programs,
we
don't
there's
nothing
that
we
own,
we
facilitate,
so
we
help
others
do
their
job
and
we
make
sure
information
gets
to
the
right
people
and
our
partnership
with
the
kentucky
department
of
veterans
affairs
is
becoming
very
special.
We're
going
to
be
teaming
up
with
them
to
hopefully
in
our
next
federal
grant,
get
a
federally
funded
person
to
work
specifically
workforce
development
and
give
them
to
the
kentucky
department
of
veterans
affairs
at
no
cost
to
the
state
and
have
them
do
that.
H
A
great
program
that
dallas
is
working
and
we're
going
to
start
a
podcast
of
all
things
military
in
kentucky
and
do
that
through
a
partnership
with
the
kentucky
department
of
veterans
affairs.
So
we're
really
looking
forward
to
being
able
to
tell
you
even
better
more
success
stories
as
we
move
forward.
A
Well,
thank
y'all.
We
are
always
glad
to
have
y'all
here,
we'll
probably
see
some
more
over
these
next
six
months,
or
so
we
got
a
little
tweaking
to
do
on
our
tax
structure.
I
think,
will
help
tremendously
being
in
the
move-in
business.
I'm
constantly
talking
to
soldiers
down
to
fort
campbell
that
are
picking
the
tennessee
side
more
than
us,
but
we'll
we'll
keep
working
on
that
and
see.
If
we
can
start
today.
H
A
That's
an
essential
element
that
is,
and
that
is-
and
I
think
most
everyone
here
is
aware
of-
that,
we're
going
to
keep
tweaking
it-
and
I
know
chairman
petrie-
is
aware
of
it
too.
So
we'll
keep
working
on
that
issue.
Also,
we
do
have
a
question
or
two
senator
parrot.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
general
bullard,
thank
you
for
your
presentation
and
as
a
senator
that
represents
fort
knox.
G
There's
some
tremendous
changes
going
on
in
fort
knox
and
work
and
we're
glad
this
to
hear
those
helicopters
again
and
see.
What's
going
on
fort
knox
and
and
it's
you
know,
and
that
brings
in
a
lot
of
money
too,
not
just
what
we
do
here.
G
It's
also
wonderful
news
that
you
don't
have
to
go
to
when
you
go
on
post
and
go
in
and
sit
in
line
for
an
hour
to
get
on
post,
but
one
of
the
positive
things
that's
really
been
is
going
to
be
fantastic
when
they,
when
they
put
these
new
changes
in
some
of
you
may
remember,
representative
mike
weaver,
colonel
mike
weaver.
G
He
was
a
state
representative
from
hardin
county
and
mike
weaver
took
it
on
his
own
to
recreate
a
soldier's,
barracks
and
and
all
the
way
down
to
a
fully
furnished
barracks
with
the
linens
on
there.
Everything
in
place,
just
like
a
soldier,
would
walk
into
it
that
day
and
we've
missed
those
things
because
they
were
closed.
That's.
G
H
And
there
there's
so
much
potential
for
fort
knox
and
fort
campbell
fort
campbell
is
the
future
of
the
army
of
army
aviation.
They
are
set
fort
knox
has
ten
of
the
most
the
best
ranges
in
the
country
state
of
the
art
and
they're
way
under
underutilized
the
opportunity
there
should
financial
circumstances
ever
force
a
dod
contraction.
H
The
opportunity
for
fort
knox
to
grow
is
phenomenal
and
then
a
lot
of
people
don't
realize
that
bluegrass
army
depot
is
a
logistics
hub
for
the
us
army
for
every
military
installation,
east
of
the
mississippi
river
and
how
critically
important
that
is
not
even
going
into
bluegrass
station.
That's
another
story.
A
We
do
have
some
great
installations
and
great
members
that
serve
our
communities
in
our
state
there.
So
do
we
have
any
other
questions
or
comments
or
anything
or
so
we
got
one
more
presenter
and
it
looks
like
we're
kind
of
on
time.
Gentlemen,
thank
you
all
so
much
for
being
here
appreciate
what
y'all
do
and-
and
thank
you
sure,
we'll
be
seeing
you
more.
A
All
right
is
colonel
hedges.
You
still
out
there.
You
were
the
first
logged
on
this
morning
and
here
you
are
still
holding
and
we
send
our
prayers
with
your
father
right
here.
F
Thank
you
very
much,
and
I'm
here
chairman.
A
Okay,
well,
we'll
let
you,
gentlemen,
if
you
don't
mind,
you
saw
that
button
make
sure
it's
green.
When
you
talk
and
please
introduce
yourself
for
the
record
and
for
those
of
them
that
are
out
there
in
that
cyber
world.
D
Okay,
great
chairman
chairman
thomas,
thank
you
vice
chair,
meredith
of
vice
chair
mccool,
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
tom
ferry.
I
am
the
ceo
and
chairman
of
connected
nation,
I'm
joined
today
by
my
colleague,
our
and
also
our
executive,
vice
president
of
planning
planning
and
development.
Mr
chris
peterson,
and
thank
you
again
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
and
testify
on
this
important
topic
of
military,
veteran
and
spouse.
Employment
will
join
the
refrain,
that's
earlier
established
by
kristin
and
and
aaron
earlier
today.
D
I
I
it's
almost
as
if,
if
we
were
singing
from
the
same
hymnal
there,
so
it's
it's
really
great
to
have
consistency
as
we
embark
on
this
topic.
We
are
here
today
representing
our
national
501c3
nonprofit,
headquartered
here
in
kentucky.
Our
mission
is
to
help
families,
individuals
and
communities
improve
their
lives
and
their
opportunities
through
better
access,
adoption
and
use
of
broadband
and
related
technologies.
D
We
are
honored
to
celebrate
our
20th
anniversary
as
an
organization
this
year
and
we
remain
humbled
by
the
opportunity
to
impact
so
many
lives
through
our
work.
This
is
especially
true
as
we
emerge
from
a
global
pandemic
that
taught
us
all
how
life-saving
a
digital
connection
is
to
virtually
every
aspect
of
our
lives.
D
Colonel
hedges,
as
you
noted,
is
the
president
and
ceo
of
the
gs2
group.
He
has
been
a
very
trusted
partner
to
our
organization
and,
as
you
know,
a
family
emergency
has
called
him
away.
He
would
be
here
in
person,
but
I
think
it
will
yield
yield
now
for
a
few
opening
comments
from
colonel
hedges.
F
Hey,
thank
you
very
much
tom.
I
appreciate
that
chairman
thomas
general
assembly
committee
members.
It's
an
honor
to
be
able
to
speak
today.
Sorry
again
that
I
can't
be
there
in
person.
F
I
want
to
start
off
some
consider
that
military
spouses
are
the
unsung
heroes
of
our
nation's
defense
and
back
in
2017,
there
was
even
an
article
that
stated
military
spouse.
Unemployment
is
simply
a
national
security
issue.
F
I
believe
that
kristen
and
aaron,
who
you
heard
from
earlier
today,
articulated
the
why
very
very
well
and
provided
a
real
life
example.
The
unemployment
and
underemployment
statistics
with
military
spouse.
Employment
are
simply
appalling,
and
I've
personally
witnessed
the
impacts
over
my
28
plus
year
military
career.
F
F
That
program
was
successful
and
grew
into
a
brick
and
mortar
option
just
outside
the
gates
of
fort
campbell
and
is
still
going
today
before
I
turn
the
presentation
over
to
connect
the
nation.
I
want
you
to
know
that
our
partners
trained
and
placed
their
1
000
it
telework
employee
through
the
digital
works
program,
during
the
heart
of
a
global
pandemic,
pretty
big
deal.
F
In
addition,
I'm
proud
to
say
that
I
hired
my
first
three
military
spouse
teleworkers
roughly
one
month
ago
in
my
new
role
as
the
president
and
ceo
of
government
solutions
and
services
and
plan
to
hire
a
plethora
more
with
those
opening
remarks.
Please
understand
your
support
is
critical
at
this
time,
as
kentucky
funding
is
running
out
for
the
digital
works
program.
F
D
Thank
you
colonel.
It's
been
said
that
all
social
ills
among
able-bodied
people
come
from
the
lack
of
a
job
over
the
life
of
our
nearly
20
years
as
an
organization
there's,
perhaps
no
greater
expression
of
our
mission
than
when
we
are
able
to
leverage
a
broadband
connection
to
establish
stable
employment
where
a
situation,
adaptability
or
geography
have
challenged
its
previous
existence.
D
Through
our
digital
works
program,
we
are
investing
in
the
training
and
placement
of
today's
digitally
remote
workforce
among
the
70
plus
nationwide
employer
partners,
our
wonderful
and
dedicated
staff.
We
train
place
and
mentor
individuals
so
that
opportunity
is
available
to
anyone
that
would
seek
it,
irrespective
of
their
geography
or
the
uniqueness
of
their
employment
requirements
or
personal
constraints.
D
Telework
jobs
are
especially
important
to
those
living
in
the
country's
remote
and
rural
areas,
where
employment
options
are
oftentimes
limited
areas.
Incidentally,
where
many
of
our
countries,
military
installations
and
communities
exist,
as
you
will
soon
hear
from
mr
peterson,
the
value
of
the
flexible
portable
tel
remote
based
telework
job
is
invaluable
and
perhaps
tailor-made
to
confront
the
unique
challenges
of
today's
military,
family,
spouses,
veterans
and
family
members.
Even
during
times
of
low
unemployment
have
for
too
long
suffered,
crushing
unemployment
rates
and
wage
disparity
compared
to
their
civilian
counterparts.
D
Obviously,
on
the
on
the
eve
of
the
covid
pandemic
that
gripped
our
nation
and
decimated
local
economies
through
the
coronavirus,
state
and
local
recovery
funds,
the
federal
government
has
recently
allocated
350
billion
across
states,
territories
and
tribal
communities
and
tribal
governments.
These
funds
can
be
used
for
coveted
related
economic
recovery
activities.
As
a
result,
our
nation's
leaders
have
an
unprecedented
opportunity
to
help
veterans
and
military
spouses
and
their
unique
employment
challenges
confronting
the
national
challenge
of
military
spouse.
Unemployment
is
not
only
the
right
thing
to
do
for
our
families
that
sacrifice
so
much
finding.
D
M
All
right,
thank
you.
Let
me
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
the
digital
works
program.
As
tom
mentioned,
it's
a
community-based
job
creation
program
where
we
train
place
and
mentor
for
high
quality
spouses
and
veterans
for
long-term
remote
work
positions.
M
Remote
positions
require
internet,
so
we're
leveraging
broadband
to
connect
job
seekers
with
in-demand
jobs.
We
have
over
the
years
established
a
network
of
over
70
different
employers
that
are
specifically
looking
for
remote
workers
and,
as
colonel
hedges
indicated,
we've
now
created
over
1000
remote
jobs
a
little
bit
about
the
training
it
takes
about.
Two
to
four
weeks,
we
adjust
the
duration
a
little
bit
based
upon
the
proficiency
of
each
cohort
and
once
that
class
is
completed
placements
about
one
to
three
weeks
thereafter,.
M
A
little
bit
more
about
the
fort
campbell
setting,
we
have
a
facility
just
outside
the
main
gate
in
the
front
area.
We
have
the
training
taking
place
like
I
said
it's
two
to
four
weeks
and
then
when
graduation
takes
place
placements
swift
thereafter,
and
we
really
want
for
everyone
to
be
successful
in
the
remote
position
that
they
have
secured.
M
So
we
have
training
or
co-working
space
in
the
back
area
so
that
whenever
military
spouses
and
veterans
feel
comfortable
transitioning
to
home,
they
can
do
so
and
then,
if
they
need
to
come
into
the
co-working
facility
for
some
camaraderie
and
and
support
with
some
of
their
fellow
trainees,
they
can
do
so.
So
it's
been
really
successful
and,
as
tom
mentioned
about
mid
march
last
year,
we
transitioned
from
using
that
facility
100
to
a
virtual
environment,
but
we've
still
been
able
to.
You
know,
get
the
impact
that
we've
desired.
M
The
objective
for
fort
campbell
is
really
to
create
that
on-ramp
for
flexible
transferable
remote
work
with
military
spouses
and
veterans
which
they
often
face
with
relocation.
You
know,
if
you're
already
in
a
position
and
you
transition
to
remote
work.
It's
not
too
bad,
you
know
you
take
your
laptop,
you
go
home
and
you
vpn,
and
you
do
these
things,
but
if
you're
not
in
a
career
profession
where
you
know
you
can
make
that
transition,
what
is
that
on-ramp
from
a
service
level,
job
or
some
other
job
to
a
remote
work?
M
M
The
funding
for
the
fort
campbell
digital
works
program
comes
through
the
kentucky
department
of
veterans
affairs.
It
also
comes
through
the
kentucky
education
and
workforce
development
cabinet,
as
well
as
the
usda
rural
business
development
grant.
So
we've
really
cobbled
resources
together
to
make
this
thing
work
and
it's
getting
a
lot
of
results.
Over
the
past
year.
D
M
D
Chairman
is
he
accused
cues
that
up
a
few
other
comments
I
would
would
add
in
there
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
learned,
certainly
as
as
we
embarked
on
our
pilot
in
fort
knox,
and
certainly
as
we've
gained
even
more
insights
at
the
fort
campbell
community
is
there
is
a
general
suspicion,
I
think
now
perhaps
covet
will.
Will
you
know,
sort
out
the
the
the
charlatans
from
the
bonafides
but
telework
remote
based
job
opportunities?
D
I
think,
are
oftentimes
thrust
upon
these
military
spouse
communities
with
the
promise
of
things
that
are
beyond
probably
expectation,
and
I
think
what
that
has
as
disillusionment
sets
in
and
understanding
that
those
those
prospects
don't
come
to
pass.
I
think
there's
become
a
cynicism
in
remote
based
work
now
again
kovid,
I
think,
through
the
whole
whole
world
off
kilter
there
and
forcing
a
lot
of
professions
into
a
remote-based
context.
D
So
when
we
talk
about
our
70
member
partnering,
employer
employers
understand
that
digital
works
has
vetted
those
employers
to
make
sure
that
as
we
bring
them
in
that
portfolio
of
opportunity
to
these
newly
certified
and
graduate
graduates
of
our
digitalworks
program,
they
are
meeting
with
partners
there
who
are
willing
to
obviously
stand
by
their
offers,
make
good
faith
commitments
to
those
to
those
trainees
and
those
graduates.
So
they
don't
meet
with
fly-by-night
operations
that
unfortunately
have
really
kind
of
populated
the
the
remote-based
work
community
marketplace.
M
A
A
D
No,
I
think,
it'll
be
prohibitive.
It's
a
wonderful
testimony.
I
would
encourage
all
the
members
to
you
can
get
that
off
of
our
website.
I
believe
digitalworksjobs.org.
Yes
again,
it's
it's
a
very.
D
Heartfelt
testimony,
obviously
jess
coulson,
our
facilitator.
There
is
a
military
spouse
herself
and
has
up
to
this
point,
encountered
many
of
the
horror
stories
that
you've
heard
I'm
sure
countless
times
before
and
so
having
her
as
the
facilitator
for
this
program
not
only
nurtures,
I
think,
a
sense
of
trust,
but
also
adds
credibility
to
our
program
and
she
understands
firsthand
some
of
the
plight
and
challenges
that
confront
our
military
spouses.
A
Wonderful
well
we'll
play
with
that
for
a
sec
there.
I
can
also
maybe
have
staff
send
out
links
to
everyone
that
maybe
they
can
get
on
the
site
in
their
own
time.
A
lot
of
times
you
end
up.
Oh,
oh,
wait.
N
And
you've
pcs
there
and
it's
so
far
away
from
home
and
right
after
that,
your
spouse
deploys
almost
like
clockwork,
it
seems,
and
so
a
lot
of
times
our
spouses
go
back
home
for
that
time
frame
and
it
takes
a
while
for
them
to
get
into
the
okay.
I've
got
to
try
to
figure
out
where
to
get
a
job.
Well,
at
this
point,
your
time
is
ticking
any
day
now
you're
going
to
get
on
orders
and
you're
going
to
find
out
oh
year
from
now
you're,
pcsing
and
employers.
N
You
can
close
your
computer
at
fort
campbell,
open
it
fort
carson
and
that
job
hasn't
gone
anywhere,
but
for
those
of
us,
especially
who
have
kids
and
want
help
when
our
husbands
or
our
wives
deploy
and
we're
stuck
with
nine
months
of
just
us,
we
can
go
back
home
to
kansas
and
bring
our
computer
with
us
and
open
it
and
still
keep
that
job
while
having
family
around
us
to
support
us
during
a
deployment.
So
it's
all
sorts
of
those
moving
parts
and
for
veterans
for
the
veterans.
N
When
you
get
out
you're
going
to
make
me
emotional,
you
don't
know
who
you
are
anymore
and
it
happens.
It
happens
a
lot.
You
know
my
dad
he's
spent
30
plus
years
of
his
life
in
the
military
and
now
he's
going
to
school
from
home
as
much
as
possible
to
give
him
something
to
do.
But
really,
where
do
I
go
from
here?
My
brother
got
out
and
couldn't
find
his
way.
We
lost
him
to
that
post-war
because
he
didn't
know
where
to
go.
N
A
A
Let
me
give
a
sec
here,
because
we
have
some
out
there
all
right
and
one
last
time
bear
with
us.
I
think,
did
you
need
to
call
roll
one
more
time,
just
to
make
sure
that
we
didn't
pick
up
someone
during
the
last
hour
and
a
half
here
so.
A
All
right,
we
appreciate
letting
us
call
roll
a
couple
times
there.
We
members
do
make
note
our
next
meeting
is
going
to
be
co-chaired
or
chaired
by
senator
meredith
or
senator
embry,
just
depending
how
senator
embry
is
still
feeling
and
keep
him
in
our
prayers,
and
that
is
going
to
be
wednesday
july.
21St
10
a.m,
right
back
in
this
spring,
so,
gentlemen,
and
and
everyone
that
came
today
and
testified
even
from
okinawa.