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A
And
we
welcome
everyone
to
our
first
interim
bnr
subcommittee,
general
government,
finance
personnel
and
public
retirement
meeting
before
we
get
started.
A
I
would
remind
everyone
to
please
put
your
cell
phones
on
on
silent
if
you
have
them
with
you
also
for
those
members
or
guests
that
may
be
participating
remotely
that
when
we
call
roll
number
one
you
let
us
know
where
you're
located
at
you
participate
remotely
and
to
make
sure
that
you,
you
mute
your
sound
your
audio
on
your
system
until
it's
time
for
you
to
speak
or
you
wish
to
speak.
That
way,
we
don't
get
feedback.
A
C
B
D
E
B
B
B
Thank
you,
senator
co-chair
nemas.
I'm
sorry.
E
A
Weekend
and
we
are
ready
to
get
back
to
work
and
we're
going
to
begin
this
morning,
hearing
from
the
kentucky
infrastructure
authority-
and
I
will
allow
you
all
to
begin
as
each
presenter.
Mr
secretary,
you
all
present-
please
just
announce
your
name
and
who
that
you
are
here
presenting.
So
we
will
have
that
for
the
record.
So
I'll
turn
the
floor
over
to
you
all.
A
H
Sir
you'd
think
after
as
many
of
these
as
I've
been
at,
I
would
know
how
to
do
control
some
of
these
technical
issues,
but
I've
got
help
today.
Thankfully,
and
sandy
williams
is
not
only
a
not
only
controlling
the
slides
but
also,
as
you
all
know,
from
her
role
at
department
of
local
government
kia,
she
is
a
subject
matter
expert
and
we
rely
on
them
extensively
all
right.
So
let
me
also
introduce
mr
chairman.
H
Before
I
get
started,
let
me
introduce
the
others
who
are
going
to
be
speaking
today,
and
that
includes,
of
course,
director
state
budget
director
john
hicks,
who
is
responsible
for
the
broadband
project
as
project
manager.
My
role
is
a
project
management
role
for
the
for
the
water
and
wastewater
project
portion.
H
On
the
behalf
of
the
administration,
I
can
also
tell
you
that
the
governor
is
very
actively
involved
in
this
project.
In
fact,
I
just
got
a
text
a
few
minutes
ago
from
him
asking
about
how
things
were
going
on
the
portal
it
was
just
announced.
Yesterday,
we
in
a
sense
the
project,
is
now
open
for
applications
and
it's
good
to
be
able
to
report
that,
having
been
in
the
project
management
business
myself
through
construction
for
almost
50
years,
that
it's
good
to
report
that
we
are
on
schedule.
H
Governor
actually
gave
a
date
on
about
a
month
ago
to
be
for
the
portal
to
be
open
and
for
applications
to
be
then
available
on
june.
The
first
and
it's
good
to
know
that
we've
met
that
deadline.
Now
let
me
go
into
the
what
I
sometimes
say-
and
I
know
you
all
know
this-
the
five
w's
and
one
h
the
who,
where
who?
What
where,
when
why
and
how
and
sometimes
I
add,
a
how
much
and
we'll
be
talking
about
that.
H
H
H
It
is,
and
especially
you
know,
I
guess
the
only
the
the
rationale
we
have
for
now
is
that
we've
been
out
of
out
of
practice
for
a
little
while
in
these
in
these
presentations
in
these.
H
Know
I'll
tell
you
what
why
don't
we
go
ahead
with
my
pre
and
then
when
they
are
able
to
catch
up
we'll
we'll
do
that?
Will
that
work?
Mr
chairman,
all
right,
I
think
I
forgot
to
say
one
thing
when
I
started
out,
and
that
was
if
I
did
then
y'all
forgive
me,
but
I
try
to
always
say
thank
you
each
and
every
one
of
you
for
your
public
service,
knowing
what
that's
like
a
little
bit
myself
from
having
said
in
your
chairs
and
local
government,
there's
a
lot
of
appreciation.
H
That's
not
offered
routinely
so
appreciate
it.
Okay,
so
there
with
drinking
water
and
white
wastewater,
as
you
all
may
remember,
250
million
was
committed
for
drinking
water
and
wastewater
projects.
Broad
brand
deployment
was
rough
together
was
300
million,
and
that's
what
john
hicks
is
going
to
share
with
you.
H
First
in
the
drinking
water
and
wastewater
grant
program.
What
is
the
program?
It
involves
the
planning,
design
and
construction.
Okay,
it's
coming
up
now,
all
right.
There
we
go
so
it
involves
the
planning,
design
and
construction
for
water
and
sewer
related
projects
that
have
a
social,
economic
or
environmental
impact.
It's
funded
by
the
american
rescue
plan.
The
arp
act
of
2021
coronavirus,
state
fiscal
recovery
fund
was
appropriated
in
the
2021
regular
session
by
the
legislature
senate
bill
36
to
the
kentucky
infrastructure
authority
to
administer
the
program.
H
So
next
slide
is
how
much
money
do
we
have
now.
This
is
for
wastewater
for
water
and
wastewater
again
john's
going
to
talk
about
about
broadband.
So
of
the
250
million
appropriated,
150
million
is
a
pool
allocated
by
county
population
and
those
funds
were
announced.
Yesterday
those
allocations
were
announced.
Yesterday,
a
50
million
dollar
pool
is
allocated
for
unserved
drinking
water
customers
in
rural
areas
and
for
federal
consent,
decree
projects
and
those
projects,
those
federal
consent
decree
projects
are
in
lexington,
louisville,
northern
kentucky
sanitation
district
number
one
and
winchester.
H
The
the
49.9
million
dollar
pool
out
of
the
250
million
is
to
supplement
a
project
grant
where
the
cost
is
greater
than
the
county's
application,
or
it
is
designated
for
cost
escalations
or
changed
conditions.
So,
if
you'll
think
about
it
this
way
we
know
that
some
grants
are
going
to
be
applied
for
and
approved.
H
H
Half
of
that
49.9,
let's
just
say,
50,
because
the
last
100
000
is
for
administrative
costs,
but
half
of
that
50
million
is
for
is
assigned
as
a
contingency
for
change
conditions
that
often
occur
in
any
construction
project.
My
own
experience
tells
me
that
some
from
eight
to
ten
percent
of
a
project
may
increase,
depending
on
change
conditions,
conditions
that
were
not
anticipated
when
the
engineering
documents
were
prepared
and
that's
why
that
allocation?
Okay,
so
let's
go
to
the
next
sentence:
what's
the
project
scope.
H
H
H
Water
service
coordinator
will
help
utilities
complete
the
project
profile
and
the
coordinator
will
select
2021
dww
grant
program
as
the
funding
source
under
the
budget
tab.
Okay,
that's
the
portal
that
has
was
was
actuated
yesterday,
the
in
a
sense
the
flip.
The
switch
was
turned
on
yesterday
for
the
applications
right
sandy,
okay,
good
all
right:
when
can
the
utilities
apply
now
by
submit
by
submitting
or
updating
the
project
profile,
and
that
was
up
until
even
yesterday
and
then
after
the
formal
call
for
projects
which
has
occurred
now?
H
So
basically
that's
saying:
there's
flexibility,
okay,
how
will
the
projects
be
selected
out
of
the
150
million
dollar
pool?
They
will
be
selected
through
coordination
between
the
cities
and
the
counties
and
as
the
governor
in
the
last
two
weeks
in
the
in
the
meetings
that
he's
been
holding,
the
virtual
meetings
with
the
county
judges
and
the
mayors
has
been,
has
been,
emphasizing
and
encouraging
the
cooperation
in
the
selection
of
these
projects,
from
the
county
judges
and
from
the
county
officials
and
and
working
with
the
ad
district.
H
H
H
H
Now
this
next
slide
is
you
all
have
to
forgive
me,
because
in
project
management
we
often
look
at
flow
diagrams,
and
they
can.
They
can
look.
There's
senator
mcdaniel
over
there
he's
smiling
because
he
knows
from
being
in
the
construction
business
exactly
what
I'm
about
to
go
into.
I
will
not
go
into
each
one
of
these
blocks.
I
promise
you
all.
I
won't.
H
Which
takes
us
from
the
initial
application
the
call
for
projects,
the
initial
selection
of
the
grant
for
funding
conditional
commitment,
given
the
engineering
and
the
design,
that
is
the
plans,
development
of
the
plans
and
specifications
we've
got
to
conduct
environmental
reviews
and
get
an
approval,
and
then
we
release
the
project
for
bids
and
receive
bids.
The
next
slide
shows
the
continuation,
which
essentially
basically
says:
let's
get
the
job
done
now.
H
When
will
the
grant
funding
be
available
after
additional
federal
program
guidance
is
received
after
the
federal
funding
is
received
after
the
administrative
regulations
are
executed,
which
we
can
check
that
box
that
occurred.
The
filing
of
those
administrative
regs
occurred
yesterday
so
where
I
said
earlier
that
we're
on
schedule
that
was
scheduled
to
be
to
occur
on
june,
the
first
and
it
did
occur
and
after
the
county
allocation
amounts
are
released,
and
that
also
occurred
yesterday.
H
So
we're
on
track
what
is
left
to
do
coordinate
with
area
development
districts,
those
are
the
water,
the
water
resource
coordinators,
in
the
area,
development
districts.
They
are
the
point
people
for
this
coordination
again.
This
is
a
process-
that's
not
unfamiliar
to
kia.
Familiar
with
this
process.
A
Yes,
sir,
mr
secretary
and
I
think
to
keep
these
two
issues
separated
that
at
best
we
take
the
questions
down
for
you
all
on
the
water
and
then,
when
director
hicks
kind
of
will
be
doing
specifically
with
broadband,
and
so
let
me
begin.
I
do
have
one
question
here
before
I
get
to
the
other
members:
how
do
localities
apply
for
the
federal
funding
and
then
who
determines
the
distribution?
That
was
a
question
that's
been
sent
to
me
from
another
representative.
H
Okay
I'll
take
a
stab
at
it
and
then
sandy
can
correct
me.
Okay,
all
right.
The
application
process
is
the
is
through
the
portal.
That's
just
been
that's
just
the
switch
has
just
been
turned
on
the
water
resource
coordinators
in
each
ad
district
will
be
the
point,
persons
for
the
applications,
and
they
know
that
process
and,
of
course,
they're
from
they're
familiar
with
with.
If,
if
you
will
pulling
together
the
information
and
getting
consensus
on
the
projects,
some
of
these
projects
are
actually,
as
sandy
can
confirm.
H
H
The
allocations
are,
according
to
the
the
numbers
that
were
released
yesterday
per
county
and
those
allocations
are
based
on
population.
Okay,
saying
you
want
a
footnote,
what
did
I
miss?
B
Thank
you,
the
kentucky
infrastructure
authority
website
and
I
will
get,
I
believe,
it's
it's
kia.ky.gov.
A
Okay,
very
good,
thank
you.
Now
we
have
some
members
that
have
some
questions.
First
up,
representative
goforth.
D
D
H
What's
that
they're
all
yeah
they've
all
received
allocations?
I'm
also
thinking
that
that
some
of
this
will
be
a
function
of
the
ad
districts,
working
together
with
the
counties.
But
the
intention
is
for
every
county.
It
has
an
allocation,
but
you
know
what
I'm
saying
is
that
that
the
allocation
for
one
county
may
not
be
sufficient
for
a
project
that
might
link
into
another
influenced
by
another
county,
but
that
is
fully
the
expectation
and
what
is
being
worked
toward?
Okay,
yes,.
E
D
B
Thank
you,
that's
a
very
good
question.
The
the
intent
is
to
be
inclusive
and
not
close,
the
application
window.
So,
if
you
consider
projects
in
various
stages
of
life,
some
as
secretary
gray
mentioned,
were
shovel
ready
today
and
some
haven't
been
thought
of
yet
so
our
our
hope
is
to
leave
the
application
window
open.
D
H
A
B
A
B
H
Were
right,
yeah,
I
am
I'm
familiar
with
that.
We've
got
one
in
lexington
too.
E
B
Kept
the
80
the
add
in
louisville's
kipta
right,
so
that
would
be
where
to
touch
base
on
how
this
is
going
to
funnel
through,
say,
jefferson
county.
B
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
got
a
couple
of
three
questions
if
I
might
and
I'll
try
to
be
brief
on.
E
I
will
in
the
presentation
it
mentioned,
the
funds
must
be,
and
I'm
using
a
different
word,
because
I
didn't
write
it
down
at
the
time
of
the
slide,
but
funds
must
be
kind
of
encumbered
by
2024..
That
doesn't
mean
they
have
to
be
fully
expended.
They
just
have
to
be
contracts
executed,
correct,
that's
correct.
E
Okay,
second
thing:
obviously,
you've
got
the
different
pots
and
pools
of
money
that
you're
talking
about
there,
a
project
or
or
something
going
on
with
a
system
like
the
martin
county
system
that
we've
all
heard
about
over
and
over,
does
it
fall
in
the
individual
county
allocation
pool,
or
would
it
fall
in
the
unserved
pool
since
they
are
somewhat
served
but
not
served
in
a
way?
That's
usable
water.
Frankly,.
H
E
And
that's
kind
of
what
I
figured,
but
I
wasn't
sure,
and
then
the
final
one
and
it's
kind
of
a
two-part
question.
So
you
talked
about
the
city
and
the
county
corresponding
and
cooperating
on
projects.
E
B
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
he's
a
couple
brief
questions
hope
to
be
quick,
so
just
to
be
sure,
thank
you
all
again,
secretary
gray,
a
couple
times
in
a
couple
days,
but
always
a
pleasure,
a
municipality
that
has
nothing
in
the
works
yet
just
to
be
clear.
They
can
start
a
process
today
and
become
part
of
this
with
a
water
project.
F
D
F
There's
50
million
allocated
for
the
underserved
or
unserved
and
consent
degree
areas
and
then
150
million
for
the
counties
and
then
we're
talking
about
multiple
counties
in
in
sd1
in
northern
kentucky.
So
just
looking
at
pools
of
money
and
will,
as
representative
just
asked
about,
will
there
be
ways
to
combine
certain
projects
that
might
fall
under
both
categories
and
get
bigger
projects
done
especially
related
to
our
consent,
decree,
which
is
very
expensive
from
what
I
understand.
H
Yeah,
I
think,
tell
me
if
I'm
wrong
here
ray
or
sandy,
but
I
think
this
is
where
the
ad
district
comes
into
play
in
the
water
digit
and
the
coordinator
comes
into
play.
This
is
the
perp.
That's
the
purpose
of
bringing
consensus
to
some
of
these
issues
where,
where
there
may
be,
you
know
different
points
of
view,
of
course,
but
there
that
there
is
precedent
for
that
for
working
through
those
kinds
of
project
issues.
E
E
We
are
familiar
with
the
process
and
we
will
follow
the
process
and,
based
on
my
colleagues,
asking
all
these
questions,
can
you
briefly
go
through
what
those
processes
are?
Are
they
based
upon
federal
guidelines?
Are
they
based
upon
state
guidelines?
Are
they
based
upon
both
guidelines?
How
is
that?
If,
if
you
can
just
explain
it
a
little
bit
so
that
we
can
understand
what
that
process
will
be?
Okay,.
H
H
E
H
H
The
federal
guidelines
are
generally
consistent
with
what
has
been
employed
before
so
we
do
have
new
funding,
of
course,
that
is
allocated
on
the
basis
of
counties,
so
the
counties
are
will
be
receiving
these
funds
specifically
and
then
we'll
be
making
choices
and
decisions.
Based
on
that
funding,
then
we
will
execute
the
projects
in
the
similar
fashion,
as
is
already
being
done
through
kia.
E
H
No
changing
that
is
a
constraint
yeah.
Now,
when
you
ask
that
question
representative
representative,
graham,
you
know
I'm
sure,
with
120
counties
and
that
and
his
and
and
multiples
of
projects,
there
will
be
conditions
or
situations
where
there
may
need
to
be
some
flexibility
for
whatever
reason,
and
then
that
goes
to
that
would
go
to
the
kia
board.
A
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I'll
go
down
my
list
really
quick,
and
hopefully
you
can
answer
them
really
quick.
My
first
item
is
on
the
debt
service
of
you.
We've
got
cities
and
counties
that
have
tremendous
amount
of
debt
service
on
projects
they've
already
done,
and
I
know
that
that
is
not
part
of
the
the
rules
of
the
federal
money
that
that
cannot
be
used
for
debt
service.
B
So,
in
the
event
that
we
can
advocate
for
that
option,
I
would
hope
that
the
state
of
kentucky
would
do
that,
because
we
do
have
some
that
it
would
be
more
helpful
if
they
could
get
out
of
debt
compared
to
starting
new
projects
and
going
further
in
the
debt
along
those
lines.
The
matching
funds
can
you
briefly
kind
of
give
an
idea
what
they
can
use
on
matching
funds?
B
This
is
a
substantial
amount
of
money,
but
these
type
of
projects
are
going
to
be
well
beyond
the
amount
of
money
that
will
be
coming
into
that
county
to
complete
that
project.
So
how
can
we
use
the
matching
money
from
the
different
pots
and
most
of
them
are
federal
for
these
type
of
projects.
So
how
what
kind
of
matching
money
can
we
use
along
those
lines
and
the
last
and
final
issue
that
I
think
we're
going
to
have
not
only
in
this,
but
also
in
broadband?
B
It's
kind
of
like
we've
given
money
to
all
the
kids
for
snow
cones
they're.
All
in
line
at
the
same
time
is
that
price
of
that
snow
cone
going
to
go
up
substantially
for
the
amount
of
projects
that
you
know.
I
mean
we're
even
hearing
it
already
for
being
able
to
get
access
to
pipes,
getting
access
to
fiber,
getting
access
to
everything.
So
do
you
all
have
any
advice
for
that,
or
is
that
something
that
you're
trying
to
encourage
or
discourage
counties
from
waiting
or
moving
forward
quicker?
B
B
H
If,
if
I
had
a
crystal
ball,
I
probably
would
that
could
answer
that
question
representing
myles-
I
probably
wouldn't
be
here-
I'd
very
probably
be
doing
something
else
and
maybe
being
an
economist,
but
there's
no
question
that
price
escalations
you
know
are
occurring
across
the
board
in
the
senator
mcdonough
mcdaniel.
You
may
want
to
speak
to
this,
we're
all
seeing
that
I
think
the
best
thing
can
do
is
take
it
one
day
at
a
time.
H
C
Real
fast
when
who
in
scott
came,
we
have
both
have
kentucky
american
and
georgetown.
Are
these
funds
going
to
be
available
for
public
and
private
companies.
B
I
Mr
secretary,
you
nearly
read
my
mind
with
my
comment
and
representative
miles
somewhat
stole
the
thunder
there,
and
this
is
just
going
to
be
a
comment,
but
you
know
having
been
around
governmental
budgeting
in
some
capacity
from
small
unit
leader
in
the
army,
back
in
the
late
90s,
through
where
I
sit
now,
I
see
that
we
hit
monetary
deadlines
and
a
lot
of
times
our
desire
is
to
make
sure
the
money
gets
spent
not
make
sure
the
money
gets
spent
most
efficiently
and
effectively
and,
as
a
lot
of
us
are
beginning
to
see
now
on
the
private
side,
a
lot
of
this
construction
capital
is
beginning
to
park
on
the
sidelines
waiting
for
some
de-escalation
and
pricing.
I
And
so
I
don't
know
the
exact
answer
to
this.
But
it
would
seem
to
me
that
the
wisdom
may
very
well
be
in
these
projects
that
get
encumbered
further
out
in
23
and
24
being
the
best
spent
money,
because
this
nine
months
ago
nobody
had
a
clue.
This
money
was
even
going
to
be
coming
necessarily,
but
now
there's
a
lot
of
excitement
and
a
lot
of
us
get
a
lot
of
pressure
from
home
to
see
the
money
spent
immediately.
I
But
I
can
tell
you,
mr
secretary,
you
can,
and
a
lot
of
you
on
this
committee-
can
the
personnel
that
we
have
to
execute
these
tasks
are
fully
encumbered
and
then
some
and
we're
hoping
and
praying
for
some
kind
of
jobs,
relief,
either
through
immigration,
stuff
or
through
state
level
things
or
whatever.
The
case
is
to
help
fill
the
the
capacity
that
we
have
right
now,
and
so
I
don't
want
to
belabor
the
point
terribly
merely
make
the
statement
mr
secretarians
represent
miles
so
astutely
noted
as
well.
I
The
best
spent
money
might
be
the
money
that's
delayed
and
being
spent
right
now
to
try
to
get
these
project
costs
down.
Thank
you.
H
I'll
just
say,
as
a
footnote
up,
I
think
that's
a
really
useful
insight,
senator
and
as
we
as
we
go
through
this
these
applications
and
as
we
see
what's
occurring
in
the
in
the
especially
in
the
engineering
and
construction
sectors,
we
need
to
be
mindful
of
of
any
flexibility
that
might
give
us
the
most
effective
use
of
the
funds.
That's
really
good
insight.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
First
of
all
I
have
a
question
for
chairman
petry,
who
was
here
and
and
departed.
When
do
we
expect
the
final
federal
guidance
to
be
issued.
D
G
D
All
right
and
thank
you
and
a
question
for
myself:
can
a
county,
coordinate
and
spread
their
allocation
out
among
multiple
projects,
and,
if
so,
do
they
have
to
put
that
in
the
project
profile?
A
But,
ultimately,
I
think
we
all
agree
that
our
ultimate
goal
is
to
serve
as
many
of
our
constituents
across
the
state
to
get
them
clean,
drinking
water
and
access
to
it,
and
so
sometimes
the
delay
might
be
better
than
than
actually
going
ahead
if
we
can
get
it
to
more
people.
So
just
something
to
think
about,
but
thank
you
all
and
so
next
up
the
topic
will
be
broadband
and
director
hicks
and
whoever
he
may
have
with
him.
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Thank
you
for
inviting
us.
My
name
is
john
hicks,
the
state
budget
director,
and
we
speak
a
little
bit
about
the
broadband
deployment
fund.
Let
me
first
describe
briefly
why
I'm
here
sitting
at
the
table
with
sandy
williams,
my
my
long
time
colleague
here
in
state
government,
the
governor
has,
you
know,
had
understood
the
gravity
and
importance
of
these
two
projects:
the
wastewater
and
water
and
the
broadband
deployment,
and
the
infrastructure
authority
is
pretty
small
state
agency,
maybe
a
dozen
staff,
so
so
he
wanted
to.
G
He
wanted
to
draw
on
some
of
the
other
resources
he
has
within
his
administration
to
basically
help
out
the
infrastructure
authority.
So
so
I
have
a
really
interesting
and
fun
opportunity
to
involve
myself
in
the
broadband
deployment
fund
working
closely
with
the
infrastructure
authority
so,
and
we
had
a
great
opportunity,
secretary
gray
and
myself
and
others
to
you
know
to
brief
legislative
leadership
of
both
chambers.
G
You
know
last
month,
which
was
you
know,
give
a
little
bit
of
an
update
on
this
and
this
this
committee
and
later
today,
at
full
a
r
we'll
be
talking
about
the
broadband
employment
fund
as
well.
So
let
me
go
through
the
slides
and
and
look
forward
to
your
questions
so
how
much
money
do
we
have
out
of
the
300
million
was
appropriated
by
the
2021
general
assembly
session
and
there's
important
caveats
on
that,
but
it's
funded
by
the
american
rescue
plan
act
out
of
the
coronavirus
state
fiscal
recovery
fund.
G
This
is
the
2.183
million
billion
not
used
to
saying
that
word
that
the
kentucky's
received
and
we've
already
received
one
half
of
that
cash
that
is
they'll
fit
they're
going
to
do
it
in
50
pieces
for
most
states
and
and
we've
already
got
it
in.
You
know
in
the
treasury,
so
out
of
the
300
million
appropriated
250
million
was
was
appropriated
for
unserved
and
underserved
broadband
areas
through
house
bill,
320.
G
an
important
caveat.
It
limits
awards
and
of
only
50
million
of
that
250
million.
Before
april
1
of
2022,
okay,
so
right
now
we're
really
looking
at
that
50
million
another
50
million
was
appropriated
in
house
bill
382
for
to
secure
any
economic
development
opportunities
for
commercial
and
industrial
customers,
and
and
as
of
this
date,
none
of
yet
arisen.
We
will
work
with
the
economic
development
cabinet,
as
those
opportunities
may
arrive,
so
so
next
slide.
So
what?
What
is
the
program?
You
know?
G
I'm
glad
representative
pratt
is
here
because
you
all
had
the
the
foresight
in
the
2020
session
to
create
the
broadband
deployment
fund
by
statute
and,
let
me
just
add,
and
around
government
a
long
time.
It
was
very
well
written
piece
of
statute,
very
detailed.
G
It
guides.
You
know
it
guides
this
process.
Clearly
you
know-
and
so
we
didn't
we're
not
going
to
have
to
invent
a
whole
lot
of
information
in
order
to
do
this.
But
the
the
fund
by
state
statute
is
to
assist
governmental
agencies
and
private
sector
entities
to
construct
infrastructure
for
the
deployment
of
broadband
service
to
underserved
and
underserved
unserved
areas
of
the
commonwealth,
and
it
says
to
provide
broadband
service
to
residential
commercial
and
industrial
customers
to
secure
a
sound
economy.
G
Good
big
picture
public
policy
next
slide,
and
so
the
statutes
are
are
guiding
us,
as
well
as
the
federal
interim
final
rule
and
so
in
the
statutes
which
were
slightly
modified
in
the
21
session.
It
established
the
fund,
it
set
definitions
for
what
is
unserved
and
underserved,
and
that
is
a
speed
test.
A
download
speed
of
25
megabytes
per
second
or
three
megabytes
upload
is
an
underserved
definition
in
kentucky
for
unserved.
It's
access
to
10,
megabytes,
download
and
one
megabyte
upload
and
those
are
statutory
definitions.
G
The
the
statutes
set
out
a
grant
application
process
with
specific
requirements,
name
rank
and
serial
number
of
the
applicant,
all
kinds
of
information
required
of
them,
and
it
requires
at
least
a
50
match
for
these
projects
different
than
what
we
just
described
on
the
water
and
wastewater
in
the
statute
house
bill
382
modified
the
original
legislation
to
permit
other
federal
dollars
to
be
used
for
a
for
an
entity,
an
applicant
to
match
that
50
percent.
G
G
So
the
federal
guidance
representative
koenig
asked
about
issued,
may
10
again
they
call
it
the
interim
final
rule.
They
have
a
60-day
comment
period.
On
that,
I
will
say
this
fund
is
being
administered
by
the
u.s
department
of
treasury,
that
is,
the
same
organization
administered.
The
coronavirus
relief
fund
which
which
the
commonwealth
received
out
of
the
cares
act.
G
Money
and
in
fact
one
of
the
governor's
awards
has
assisted
us
with
this
great
technology
in
this
room
because
of
the
need
that
you
all
had
during
the
session
and
interim
for
for
mitigation
efforts,
and
so
I
will
say,
the
u.s
department
of
treasury
learned
their
lesson
with
the
coronavirus
relief
fund
because
they
had
guidance,
a
and
then
guidance
b,
then
guidance
c,
you
know,
and
while
that
was
you
know
confusing
and
difficult,
I
will
say
the
flexibility
improved
with
each
increased
guidance.
G
That
is,
you
know,
just
like
you
all
do
when
you
view
administrative
regs,
they're,
just
a
public
comment
period
and
this
so
they're
going
through
their
process.
But
I
don't
expect
a
whole
lot
to
change.
As
secretary
gray
said,
the
guidance
on
drinking
water
and
wastewater
was
very
consistent
with
the
programs.
The
kentucky
infrastructure
authority
already
implements,
in
fact
they
drew.
If
you
read
the
rule,
they
describe
why
they
wrote
it
and
they
described
very
consistently.
G
You
know
the
things
that
have
already
been
done
with
the
wastewater
revolving
fund,
the
drinking
water
revolving
loan
funds,
so
so
anyway,
so
we
feel
fairly
confident
that
the
guidance
we
receive
now
are
not
going
to
alter
too
much
in
these
two
areas,
but
that's
just
a
prediction,
so
it
focuses
on
unserved
and
underserved
areas.
G
Just
like
our
state
statute
does
it
has
the
same
definition
for
underserved,
25,
meg,
download,
three
meg,
upload,
kentucky's,
unserved
definition
for
unserved
is:
is
lower
10
meg
megabytes
downstream
one
megabyte
upstream
now
we're
getting
clarification
on
the
rule,
because
the
federal
rule
indicates
that
the
25
megabyte
three
megabyte
standard
meets
both
their
underserved
and
unserved
areas.
Okay,
so
we're
going
to
seek
clarification
on
that
to
make
sure
that's
exactly
what
they
mean
that
that
that
a
25
meg
three
meg
is
both
unserved
and
underserved
less
than
that
access
to
those
service.
G
So
then
the
other
thing
they
changed
in
the
rule
was
the
projects
funded
with
this
money
must
have
a
minimum
speed
of
a
hundred,
meg,
download
and
upload
all
right,
that's
fairly
new
right.
Their
rationale
is
they've.
Taken
a
look
at
all
these
measures
of
what
a
household
family
of
four
who
were
doing
school
at
home
and
work
at
home
and
how
much
they
used,
and
it
was
significant
in
terms
of
the
change
from
the
prior
year,
how
much
more
the
power
and
speed
they
needed.
G
So
that
was
their
rationale,
and
so
so
our
projects
will
have
a
requirement
of
at
least
a
symmetrical
100
megabyte,
download
and
upload
requirement,
and
hopefully
more,
and
so
there
are
some
exceptions
that
we
were
going
to
be
allowed
to
have
due
to
excessive
cost
geography
topology.
G
But
that
projects
must
still
be
it
leaves
the
100
meg
download
in
place.
It
allows
the
upload
to
be
20
or
to
100
with
scalability
to
a
hundred.
So
anyway,
I'm
learning
all
these
technical
elements
as
I
work
through
this
process.
But
I
wanted
you
all
to
understand,
because
you're
going
to
get
questions,
you're
going
to
have
people
ask.
G
So
our
process
sequence
we're
still
working
on
it.
Unlike
what
secretary
gray
said
and
sandy
have
helped
administer,
we
do
not
have
an
existing
process
for
broadband
deployment
grants
right.
We've
been
doing
water
and
wastewater
for
a
long
time,
so
we're
starting
from
scratch.
It's
a
green
field
right.
A
number
of
number
of
states
have
moved
in
this
direction.
The
federal
government
has
moved
in
this
direction.
We're
taking
the
lessons
learned
from
those
jurisdictions
as
we
build
our
process.
G
So
here's
here
is
our
framework
as
we
currently
sit
today
and
let
me
just
state,
we
have
decided
that
we're
going
to
institute
very
soon
a
request
for
information
where
we
will
give
providers
and
governments
local
governments
the
opportunity
to
provide
comments,
suggestions,
advice
as
we
build
our
application
process.
So
we're
going
to
do
that.
We're
going
to
do
that
in
a
very
short
order,
but
we
thought
it
was
necessary.
G
You
know
you
know
to
to
learn
and
and
be
able
to
walk
into
an
application
development
with
the
information
that
at
least
the
providers
would
want
to
give
us
okay.
So
I
want
that's
not
on
the
slide,
but
I
wanted
to
announce
that
for
you
all
today,
so
we're
gonna
we're
looking
at
a
two-stage
rfp
process.
An
rfp
is
required
by
our
state
law.
We're
gonna
ask
for
a
notice
of
intent
to
apply
and
we're
gonna
put
out
an
initial
eligible
unserved
area
map.
G
Right
now
I
say
initial,
that's
the
most
important
word
in
that
sentence
because,
as
you
all
may
have
heard,
the
the
most
common
use
of
the
map
around
the
country
is
the
federal
communications
commission's
fcc's
map,
which
is
identified
if
a
single
location
in
a
census
block
has
sufficient
speed
that
it's
served
well.
Url
statute
foresaw
that
problem
said,
and
even
if
that's
the
case,
partial
areas
could
still
be
allowed
to
be
funded
from
the
broadband
deployment
fund.
G
It's
called
a
challenge
process,
but
we're
going
to
use
it
since
kentucky
has
never
put
out
a
map
before
for
this
purpose
right,
so
we're
we're.
This
is
our
first
down
the
road,
we're
probably
not
going
to
do
this
two-stage
process,
but
now
we
want
to
make
sure
you
know
we
want
to
make
sure
we
have
a
good
map.
G
Let's
just
say
that
before
people
take
the
time
and
effort
and
resources
to
actually
develop
a
project
application,
and
so
once
we
receive
that
notice
of
intent
and
the
challenge
process,
we're
going
to
look
the
information,
we're
going
to
go
back
and
forth,
we'll
make
a
determination
on
that
and
then
stage
two
is
where
we're
going
to
put
out
I'll,
say
the
the
long
application
this
the
next
slide,
and
that's
really
the
project
specific
specifics.
G
G
So
we're
going
to
have
an
application
process
we're
going
to
review
those
there's
a
challenge
process
to
the
application,
because
the
specificity
of
the
geography
will
be
known
in
an
application
and
another
provider
can
say
no,
I'm
there
already
or
I'm
going
to
be
there
by
our
statute
in
12
months,
and
so
we're
going
to
have
that
process
every
state.
Even
the
federal
government
has
this
kind
of
process,
and
so
it's
very
different
than
like
water
and
sewer,
where
you
don't
really
have
competing
utilities
in
a
geographical
area.
G
You
also
have
municipalities
who
are
involved
in
providing
internet
service,
so
we've
got
a
different
marketplace
here:
the
public
and
the
private,
both
being
providers
and
that's
the
case
across
the
country,
and
so
then
there's
going
to
be
an
evaluation
of
scoring
and
award
offers,
and
all
of
that
so
so
this
is.
This
is
a
very
technical
area.
G
G
So
how
do
you
you
know
projects
be
selected,
a
question.
You
know
well
the
statute.
You
know,
and
the
modified
statute
gives
us
clear
guidance
about.
First
we're
not
gonna
we're
not
gonna
award
funds
where
funds
have
already
been
awarded
or
where
they're,
where
they're
currently
designated
or
are
it
should
say
adequate,
not
inadequate.
We're
gonna
projects
that
reach
the
customers
that
are
least
economical
to
serve
is
in
the
the
new
legislation
you
know
and
that
we
understand
the
policy
implication
of
that
right.
G
The
marketplace
does
not
go
to
the
end
of
the
you
know
the
that
county
road,
because
there
are
not
enough
residences
for
that
business
to
make
it.
You
know
with
those
few
customers.
We
understand
that
we're
now
seeing
utility
is
a
public
good.
Internet
service
is
a
public
good
and
so
we're
putting
federal
and
state
money
into
that
many
other
states
are
so
because
of
the
50
million
dollar
limitation.
G
For
the
first
years
award
we've
chosen
to
go
for
the
unserved
as
being
the
first
step
out
of
the
box,
rather
than
the
underserved
all
right,
and
so
so
that's
where
we're
going
to
be
heading
with
our
initial
rfp
we
have,
we
may
provide
incentives
for
timely
completion.
You
know,
we've
had
some
discussion
on
that
with
water
and
sewer,
and
another
element
of
the
statute
is
to
effectively
provide
service
to
the
greatest
number
at
lowest
cost.
G
I
think
jeremy
blanton,
you
made
that
very
relevant
comment
just
a
few
minutes
ago
and
then
other
project
attributes
that
are
under
consideration
right,
we're
going
to
be
interested.
You
know
why.
Why
is
the
government
involved
here?
One
it's
to
create
access,
but
you
know
you
can
have
access
without
you
can
have
the
capacity
without
people
adopting
it
right.
It's
no
good!
If
people
don't
subscribe
and
so
we're
going
to
be
asking
providers
to
talk
about
their
adoption
strategies,
how
are
you
going
to
get
people
to
sign
up?
G
You
know,
and
so
those
kinds
of
things
that's
just
as
important
as
having
the
wire
there
having
the
fiber
optic
cable
around
so
so
we're
working
through
those
elements
and
the
rfi
process
will
give
us
some
more
input
into
into
how
to
best
evaluate
those
projects.
Next
so
timelines
not
as
concrete
as
the
water
and
wastewater
and
drinking
water,
we're
still
under
consideration.
We're
gonna
initiate
the
rfi
process,
but
I
expect
the
application
to
be
out.
I
would
say
now
more
in
july
time
period.
G
That
also
is
consistent,
hopefully
with
any
updates
from
the
federal
rule.
You
know,
because
we'll
have
to
abide
by
that,
no
matter
what
we
do
and
when
we
do
it,
so
I
think
that,
what's
to
do,
we
do
have
some
emergency
regulations,
but
I
want
to
speak
to
that
is
the
statute's
written
so
well
that
we
don't
there's
not
going
to
be
a
whole
lot
left
to
to
do
through
regulation.
G
It'll
be
another
way
to
communicate
to
the
provider
community,
to
local
governments
out
there
about
the
program
and
we're
going
to
do
that.
We'll
repeat
the
statute
in
a
number
of
cases,
we'll
comply
with
the
federal
guidance,
because
that
is
slightly
different
than
the
statute
in
a
couple
of
ways
I
mentioned
earlier
we're
going
to
finalize
that
initial
map,
because
it's
got
to
go
out
with
the
initial
intent
and
notice
of
intent
to
apply
and
then
we're
completing
the
application
development
as
I've
spoken
to
in
several
instances.
A
Thank
you
director
hicks,
a
couple,
quick
questions
before
I
get
to
the
other
members.
First
of
all,
will
there
be
a
separate
portal
for
application
for
the
broadband
over
the
water
and
sewage?
Yes,
and
that's
not
yet
available
as
far
as
what
that
domain
is
going
to
be.
That's.
E
G
A
Yes,
sir
I'll
put
you
on
the
list,
senator
and
we'll
get
to
you.
J
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
director
hicks,
just
a
real
brief
question.
Obviously
we
talked
about
the
cost
escalations
with
the
water
and
sewer
projects
in
the
previous
presentation.
E
I
think
we're
seeing
that
here
too
most
likely,
but
the
question
that
I
have
is
a
little
more
directed
towards
the
100
meg
up
100
meg
down
designation.
That
will
create
a
significant
cost
escalation
as
well.
I
would
think,
or
is
that
going
to
was
that
going
to
be
the
standard
before
this
new
designation
happened
anyway,.
G
Well,
the
100
meg
you
know
is
is
is
I'll.
Just
say
this,
quoting
the
fcc,
the
the
treasury's
final
rule.
100
magnet
above
is
the
most
common
speed
of
those
people
in
the
united
states
who
have
access.
So
it
is
not
an
unusual
speed
there.
In
fact,
I
know
you
know
at
my
house
I've
got
much
more
than
100
meg,
so
that
was
the
rationale
they
put
in
there,
not
only
the
need
for
it,
but
the
fact
that
it's
there
in
so
many
places
already.
E
I
guess
my
concern
was:
I
just
don't
want
to
see
us
pricing
ourselves
out
of
being
able
to
do
things
for
people
that
have
very
little
to
nothing
right
now
to
get
them
to
what
we
experience
in
the
metropolitan
areas.
Maybe
is
my
concern
there
when
you
have
nothing
and
you're
trying
to
get
there
in
a
lot
of
places,
it's
a
little
concerning.
G
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
director
hicks,
I
I've
it's
my
understanding
that
there
are
some
regs
being
worked
on
already
for
for
this.
Is
that
correct.
G
G
Not
so
true,
because
we've
got
one
one:
we've
got
to
follow
the
federal
rules
on
that,
but
second
we're
focusing
on
unserved.
G
You
know
as
the
first
50
million
so
so
that
has
a
heavy
map
relationship
to
rural
kentucky
in
kentucky
you
know
so
so
the
most
of
the
geographic
areas
that
that
are
unserved
or
rural
in
kentucky.
D
Okay-
and
I
I
guess
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
mean-
obviously
I
come
from
an
a
suburban
area
that
is
generally
considered
to
be
urban,
but
there
are
places
in
in
southern
boone,
kenton
and
campbell
that
are
just
as
rural
as
others,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
they're
not
left
out
because
of
the
county
they're
in
rather
than
the
the
reality
of
their
ability
to
be
served.
G
Understood
and
in
fact
the
unit
of
analysis
in
the
statute
is
census
block,
but
we
clearly
have
within
the
statute
the
ability
to
parse
that
census
block
into
an
unserved
underserved
area,
because
they're
going
to
give
us,
you
know,
addresses
right,
and
so,
if
you're,
in
a
particular,
if
you're
in
an
urban
county
that
you
are
you're
an
unserved
portion
of
that
that
unserved
portion
is
just
as
eligible.
You
know
for
these
funds
as
an
unserved
area
in
another
part
of
the
state.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
director,
hicks
for
being
here
and
explaining
this,
and
I
think
these
questions
are
pretty
simple,
straightforward.
So,
in
the
evaluation
of
the
allocation
of
the
funds,
you
talked
about
public
versus
private.
Is
there
any
particular
weight
or
is
there
more
weight
given
to
one
or
the
other?
If
a
project
comes
in
as
public
which
might
do
more
for
the
public
good
and
is
free
or
available,
you
know
through
the
public
entity,
is
that
going
to
be
more
weighted
than
a
private
project.
G
Well,
I
think
our
mission
is
is
primarily
to
get
get
access
to
high-speed
internet
to
those
who
don't
have
it
and
I
think
we're
gonna
not
be
too
we're
gonna,
not
inject
ourselves.
Let
me
just
say
into
the
marketplace
about
who
provides
it
now?
There
could
be
a
competition
in
a
single
area,
that's
legitimate,
you
know,
and
so
so
some
of
these
other
variables
that
we're
going
to
look
at
you
know
adoption
strategies
we're
going
to
ask
about
pricing.
G
You
know
we're
going
to
ask
about
information
on
the
experience
of
providing
internet
service,
we're
going
to
ask
some
of
these
basic
things.
You
know
that
that
that
will
that
may
come
down
to
splitting
a
hair.
You
know
between
a
competitive
application
in
the
same
area,
but
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
give
different
weight
to
the
who
the
provider
is.
F
Okay,
thank
you
and
just
another
brief
question.
Representative
caney
alluded
to
there
being
urban
area,
suburban
areas
and
there
being
needs
in
some
areas,
and
some
of
these
areas
already
have
public
provider
public
broadband
available
to
them,
but
they
may
not
meet
that
hundred
100
mbs
thresholds,
so
projects
that
would
be
could
become
from
public
to
private.
F
Is
there
any
issue
with
that?
Is
that
I'm
thinking
of,
for
instance,
in
my
district,
there
are
areas
that
are
that
the
city
is
provides
free
broadband,
but
it
may
not
reach
100
100
speed
in
some
of
the
areas
so
to
boost
that
to
that
area,
can
the
city
put
in
for
a
private
or
a
public
project,
or
can
it
be
competed
against
related
to
a
private
provider
coming
in
and
wanting
to
boost
it
to
that.
G
G
That's
if
that
then,
then,
it's
eligible,
it
meets
the
unserved
test.
After
our
clarification
from
the
u.s
treasury
on
their
definition
of
unserved,
the
underserved
is
already
25
meg,
so
so
that's
what
makes
you
eligible
is,
if
you
do
not
have
access
to
internet
service
at
that
speed
now
and
therefore
that
area
can
be
accessible
now,
there's
a
challenge
process,
so
just
because
you're
only
at
25
doesn't
mean
you
you're
mandated
to
go
to
a
hundred
okay.
G
F
I
C
Pratt,
thank
you
for
your
kind
words
earlier,
mr
hicks,
you
touched
on
mapping
and
I
guess
my
comment
and
a
question
because
I
understood
there
were
federal
money
and
state
money
for
the
mapping
coming
down
and
even
scott
county.
They
recently
went
ahead
and
did
hired
a
private
firm
to
do
their
mapping
and
found
out
that
36
percent
of
the
providers
wasn't
even
providing
25
up
and
three
down
the
vice
versa
anyway.
G
Well,
we're
starting
and
in
the
data
we're
using
right
now
is
the
fcc's
data
that
down
to
the
census
block
with
that
speed
rating
we've
got
the
recently.
The
fcc
last
fall
had
an
auction,
the
rural
development
opportunity
fund
and,
and
so
in
areas
in
which
those
funds
were
awarded,
they
become
ineligible.
G
You
know,
so
we
take
them
off,
even
if
they
don't
they're
not
yet
up,
and
then
the
then
the
funds
that,
from
the
from
the
cares,
act
that
we
put
into
the
we
call
it
crowdsourcing
the
internet
based
speed
test.
You
know
that
individuals
across
kentucky
we're
using
that
data
to
help
us
illuminate
kind
of
with
the
granularity,
the
the
speeds
or
lack
thereof
in
certain
areas
of
the
state.
So
we're
going
to
start
with
that
collection
of
data
using
you
know:
geographic
mapping,
data
sandy
williams
staff.
G
You
know
we've
got
a
very,
very
good
mapper
in
her
staff
that
is
pulling
this
together
and
we're
going
to
use
that
as
the
initial
map.
Then
we
expect
the
input
from
potential
providers
and
potential
applicants
to
refine
that
map
they've
got
to
show
proof
that
they
can
meet.
You
know
the
information
and
then
we'll
we'll
change
the
map.
G
So
with
that
information
then
we'll
have
a
final
map
for
purposes
of
the
rfp,
so
we're
taking
what's
already
publicly
available,
mostly
from
the
federal
government
a
little
bit
from
our
own
and
then
we're
going
to
take
from
providers
and
other
applicants
the
information
that
they
can
show.
That
is,
that
is
legitimate.
You
know,
that's
got
proof
behind
it.
You
know
and
and
use
that,
to
help
finalize
the
map.
J
All
right,
thank
you,
mr
hicks.
You
didn't
talk
about
an
end
date,
an
objective,
and
I
think
we
have
to
have
that
because
we've
been
talking
about
about
this
as
far
back
as
the
kentucky
wired
network.
J
G
G
They
can
be
finally
expended
by
the
end
of
calendar
year
2026.,
so
so
just
to
get
to
the.
What
must
we
do
with
these
federal
dollars?
That
is,
that
is
the
requirement
from
your
larger
public
policy
question.
You
know
the
sooner
we
can
get
people
connected
up
the
better
so
but
but
as
a
public
policy,
you
know
the
commonwealth.
We
haven't
yet
set
a
date
by
which
we
want
everybody
connected.
That's
you
know
some
states
have
attempted
to
say
those
things.
G
No
one
has
yet
achieved
it,
but
it's
surely
a
good
goal
to
shoot
for.
J
Okay
and
then
the
second
half
of
my
question
really
goes
to
I
like
your
concept
of
getting
down
to
the
addresses,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
access
is
only
one
half
of
getting
to
success.
J
You've
got
to
get
to
utility
as
well,
I
mean
having
access
to
people
and
them
not
using
it
really
defeats
the
purpose
and-
and
I'm
not
going
to
please
my
colleague,
senator
gibbons
when
I
say
this,
but
but
are
we
considering
some
sort
of
like
computer
education,
computer
training
so
that
people
who
are
not
familiar
with
the
internet?
Who
don't
have
computers?
You
know
we
can?
J
We
can
get
them
trained
and
utilizing
this
maybe
partner
with
the
schools,
maybe
partner
with
with
health
care
industries,
so
that
these
people
can
can
use
to
use
computers
for
education
for
healthcare.
I'm
not
too
worried
about
commerce
because
they
will
they
will
understand
how
to
to
use
the
internet.
But,
but
what
are
we?
Are
we
thinking
thinking
about
access
at
all,
because
we've
got
to
it?
Doesn't
do
any
good.
To
I
mean
utility.
Doesn't
do
any
good
to
have
it
there
if
they're
not
using
it.
G
Yeah,
thank
you
senator
thomas.
I
would
agree.
One
of
the
things
that
we'll
we
will
be
asking
for
in
this
application
is
an
applicant's
adoption
strategy.
G
What
are
the
means
by
which
they're
going
to
pursue
getting
people
to
to
access
the
services
and
and
as
it
relates
to
other
kinds
of
you
know,
training
and
requirements?
G
You
know
our
library
system,
you
know
in
kentucky,
has
done
a
wonderful
job
over
the
years
of
providing
services
to
individuals
on
how
to
use
the
internet
community
action
agencies
have
also
done
that,
particularly
in
areas
you
know
where,
where
low
subscription
rates
are
already
there
and
and
so
those
kind
of
things,
so
we're
really
seeking
that
out
from
the
applicant
to
do
that
as
to
as
to
a
larger
effort,
you
know,
you
know,
the
federal
government
is
a
part
of
the
american
rescue
plan.
G
Act
is
putting
seven
billion
dollars
into
what
is
called
e-rate,
and
that
is
that
is
the
federal
program
that
subsidizes
schools
and
libraries
to
get
access
to
high-speed
internet
and
both
of
those
areas,
because
I'm
familiar
with
what
we
do
in
our
in
our
public
schools.
We
have
a
really
robust
method
of
assuring
you
know
and
teaching.
You
know,
access
to
our
school
children
and
boy
they've
been
practicing
a
lot
in
the
last
year.
G
You
know
on
that,
and
and
and
so
those
those
are
kind
of
things
that
that,
but
the
wrap
around
services,
as
you
might
think
of
there
are,
are
not
things
that
are
to
be
that
can
be
financed
through
this
program
and
these,
and
particularly
this
program,
because
it
is
to
only
construct
the
infrastructure.
A
Thank
you,
senator
thomas
next
will
be
center
west
and
then
we'll
have
one
more
person
after
that,
and
we've
got
to
wrap
things
up.
We've
got
to
save
time.
For
the
commissioner.
I
I
As
far
as
funds
being
expended
by
2026
and
my
question
kind
of
dovetails
with
what
senator
mcdaniel
was
getting
at
earlier,
a
real
problem
really
is
probably
going
to
be
material
costs,
finding
not
only
finding
good
contractors
but
finding
a
contractor
to
do
this
work.
Does
that
2026
deadline
is
that?
Is
it
the
same
deadline
in
the
water
wastewater
program,
yeah.
I
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
my
question
actually
applies
to
both
of
these
projects.
The
water
and
the
wastewater,
as
well
as
the
broadband
we've
got
that
2026
deadline
in
our
minds.
Now
so
with
this
project
you
talked
about
you
really
don't
have
your
project
plan
formed
yet
so
what
are
your
plans
for
both
of
these
projects
to
come
back
to
this
body
or
to
report
to
this
body
like
on
a
monthly
basis,
or
you
know
a
periodic
basis,
what
the
status
is
from
the
application
process,
as
well
as
the
completion
of
those
applications.
G
Well,
thank
you
for
the
question
representative.
I
know
the
governor
has
committed
on
to
frequent
reporting
on
these
projects,
not
only
for
transparency
purposes,
but
just
for
information
to
keep
you
all
aware
of
the
status
of
projects.
So,
while
we
haven't
put
together
a
specific
plan,
you
know
our
intention
is
to
have
frequent
reporting.
G
You
know
from
you
know,
once
we
get
into
the
project
by
project,
you
know
I.
I
expect
a
reporting
that
that
has
a
status
on
each
of
the
projects
that
have
been
awarded.
You
know
on
a
you
know,
we'll
we'll
keep
it
internally,
at
least
at
least
monthly.
I
think
there's
some.
You
know
some
final
things
to
be
decided
on
how
frequently
you
all
would
like
that
information.
But
that's
our
plan.
B
Thank
you
very
much
because
in
one
of
my
counties
I
know
I
have
136
miles
of
unserved
water,
and
so
I
really
want
to
make
sure
that
my
allocation
gets
used
and
used
appropriately.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Director
hicks,
we
thank
you
for
your
presentation
on
broadband.
As
a
matter
of
fact
on
on
both
of
these
items
of
water
and
broadband
periodically.
Have
you
all
come
in
just
to
keep
us
informed,
because
our
constituents
ask
us
questions
and
also
it's
a
good
way
for
the
public
to
tune
in
and
try
to
stay
informed,
and
so
I
think
everybody's
excited
about
all
this
going
on
and
they
want
as
much
information
and
we
want
to
provide
them
that
information.
So
thank
you
all
for
being
here
today
with
us.
A
C
C
As
you
are
aware,
the
department
for
local
government
has
been
tasked
over
the
past
15
months
with
distributing
cover,
19
funding
to
cities
and
counties
along
with
all
of
its
duties,
which
include
the
funding
and
approval
of
projects.
In
many
of
your
legislative
districts
in
the
92nd
district
chairman
blanton,
we
have
funded
water
projects
in
not
mcgoffin
and
pike
counties.
C
In
89th
district
representative
goforth,
we
re
we
have
funded
water
projects,
recovery,
centers
and
playgrounds
in
the
57th
district
of
representative.
Graham,
we
have
funded
dolly
graham
park,
which
I
frequent
in
the
78th
district
and
senate
district
27.
We
assisted
in
the
funding
of
a
splash
pad
in
cynthiana,
along
with
a
water
line,
replacement
project
in
flemingsburg
aerospace
program
and
morehead
state,
as
well
as
recovery
center,
all
in
senate
27.
C
Today
we
are
here
to
discuss
our
newest
assignment,
which
is
the
distribution
of
american
recovery
plan
funds,
as
recently
passed
by
congress
to
help
fill
you
in
on
where
we
are
in
the
time
I
have
brought
with
me,
billy
johnson,
he's
our
director
of
state
and
funding
and
federal
funding,
and
also
we
have
matt
stevens
here
with
to
answer
your
legal
questions.
Billy,
do
you
want
to
explain
fun.
K
Sure,
good
morning,
as
director
hicks
said
a
few
minutes
ago,
the
money
that
we
will
be
allocating
actually
just
hit
the
bank
account
on
friday
of
last
week.
So
what
are
we
going
to
be
doing
as
and.
K
On
oh,
it
is
now
all
right,
I'm
sorry!
Thank
you.
Okay,
we'll
try
it
again,
so
our
funds
have
entered
into
the
state
account
as
of
friday
of
last
week,
and
it's
only
the
half
of
the
funding
that
we
are
only
going
to
be
doing
to
the
non-entitlement
units
of
government
within
the
cities.
So
the
county
governments
are
going
to
be
applying
to
the
u.s
treasury
for
their
own
funding,
along
with
the
entitlement
units
of
government
across
the
state
which
is
nine
of
those.
K
We
have
also,
in
the
last
few
weeks
involved
the
kentucky
league
of
cities,
along
with
the
area
development
districts
across
the
state,
to
help
push
these
cities
to
get
in
the
proper
documentation
that
we
have
to
have.
Unlike
our
crf
funds,
this
process
is
going
to
be
a
little
bit
more.
I
think,
easier
for
our
cities
to
get
the
information
to
us.
We
do
have
to
have
a
certified
budget
number
from
the
mayor's
assigned
form
that
will
then
entail.
K
Let
us
know:
okay,
they
are
wanting
their
allocation
because
we
do
have
some
cities
that
have
already
reached
out.
That
said
that
they
will
not
be
receiving
the
allocations
that
they
are
designated.
K
I
don't
understand
that,
but
okay,
so
if
you
want
to
reach
out
to
some
of
your
cities
to
help
us
as
well
the
deadline
for
that
budget
certification
form
was
actually
set
for
today
and
and
in
conclusion
of
that,
the
other
part
of
that
is,
we
are
now
working
on
our
non-entitlement
terms
and
conditions
forms
that
they
will
also
have
to
sign.
We
are
signing
them
a
state
id
number
that
will
be
on
that
form.
Those
forms
will
be
going
out.
K
Also,
a
title
vi
assurance
form
that
they
have
to
have
because
they
will
be
reporting
directly
to
the
federal
government,
and
I
think
the
the
cities
are
to
report
probably
sometime
in
august,
and
then
I
think
it
will
proceed
in
october.
If
I'm
correct,
on
what
I've
read
on
that.
The
eligible
activities
for
this
money
is
the
support
of
public
health
expenditures
by
funding
colvin
19
mitigation
efforts,
so
medical
expenses,
behavioral
health
care,
certain
public
health
and
safety
staff.
K
This
will
also
address
the
economic
impacts
caused
by
the
public
health
emergency,
including
economic
harms,
to
workers,
households,
small
businesses,
impacted
industries
and
the
public
sector
like
in
the
past,
they've,
been
able
to
do
the
first
responder
salary
payrolls.
That
is
again
another
aspect
of
this
guidance.
I
think
it
has
been
updated
a
little
bit
on
how
they
perceive
what
you're
dedicated
to
on
your
time
for
mitigating
covets,
and
I
think
that
actually
it's
on
the
self-discretion
on
how
the
cities
do
at
this
time.
K
Let
me
back
up
and
say
that
we
are
working
on
getting
the
allocated
amounts.
The
federal
government
already
sit
down
a
ballpark
figure,
but
with
the
budget
certification
form
coming
in,
we
have
to
make
sure
that
they
have
to
follow
the
75
threshold,
which
is
mentioned
in
the
legislation,
and
we
have
to
make
sure
that
that
fund
is
correct.
So
whatever
they've
been
allocated,
they
cannot
receive
over
more
than
75
percent
of
their
budget,
and
that
date
that
was
written
in
the
in
the
wording
was
as
of
january
27th
of
2020,
which
is
pretty
pandemic.
K
So,
of
course,
they'll
be
able
to
invest
in
water,
sewer
and
broadband.
What
all
you've
been
hearing
about
today,
making
the
necessary
investments
to
improve
access
to
the
clean
drinking
water,
the
wastewater
and
storm
water
infrastructure
and
to
expand
access
to
broadband
internet.
The
premium
pay
for
essential
workers.
There
is
some
language
in
there
that
is
becoming
a
very
big
interest
to
some
of
our
mayors.
We've
been
in
discussions
with
on
the
premium
pay.
K
I
think
it's
a
13
extension
not
to
exceed
a
25
000
a
year,
and
it's
not
a
full
time,
but
it
is
an
incentive,
a
bonus.
I
guess
you
can
say.
Also
too,
the
replacement
of
lost
revenue
in
the
public
sector
is
also
going
to
be
something
that
a
lot
of
the
mayors
have
expressed
interest
in
also
as
director
hicks
mentioned
a
while
ago.
K
There
is
a
60-day
comment
period
that
we
are
still
waiting
on
and
as
we
talk
to
our
mayors,
one-on-one
and
when
they
ask
for
our
guidance,
we're
we're
going
to
offer
up
as
much
guidance
as
they
want,
but,
like
I
said
it
is
their
self-discretion
on
what
they
use
their
funding,
for.
K
We
have
recommended
that
they
might
want
to
wait,
probably
to
about
the
end
of
july,
to
see
what
this
new
after
they
do,
get
the
comment,
sections
in
to
see
what
the
final
rule
will
read.
So
in
a
nutshell,
that's
where
we
are
right
now,
because
there's
still
a
whole
lot
going
on
on
our
part
of
it,
and
hopefully
we
will
have
the
money
back
out
the
door
by
the
end
of
june
to
the
cities.
A
A
Are
those
monies
able
to
be
distributed
to
other
cities
in
need,
or
does
that
stay
there?
How
does
that
work?
If
they
don't
take
some
monies?
What
happens
to
that
money.
K
According
to
the
webinar
that
I
listened
to
on
friday,
the
cities
cannot
transfer
their
funds,
unlike
with
the
way
it
was
written
in
the
crf.
We
are
still
waiting
on
how
to
determine
how
how
long
a
city
does
not
want
their
allocation.
We've
only
received
contact
verbally
in
writing
by
two
cities
out
of
a
400
plus.
So
it's
still
a
little
bit
early
for
us
to
say
what
that
money.
Will
I
my
right.
My
presumption
on
that
is.
It
would
go
back
to
treasury.
K
Not
on
the
pinpointed
dollar
now
klc
had
sent
out
some
preliminary
numbers
and
we
have
to
wait
to
get
everybody's
budget
form
in
before
we
do
make
sure
we
do
a
75
formula
check
on
that.
I
don't
foresee
the
numbers
deviating
a
whole
lot
for
what
they
already
think
that
they
possibly
could
be
getting,
but
the
federal
guidance
also
put
out
a
percentage
based
on
population
on
what
they
could
be
getting
as
well.
F
D
A
That's
that's
what
I
thought,
but
I
was
just
clarifying
yeah,
so
good
for
them
good
for
them.
So,
mr
commissioner,
it's
always
good
to
see
you.
We
miss
having
you
up
here,
but
we're
glad
you're,
where
you
are
you're
always
delight
to
work
with.
We
hope
to
see
you
back
soon.
Ms
johnson,
thank
you
for
being
here.
No
other
members
have
any
questions.
A
I
will
remind
everybody
that
our
next
meeting
will
be
on
july,
the
7th
at
nine
o'clock
here
in
this
same
room
and
with
nothing
further,
we
will
stand
adjourned.
Thank
you,
mr.