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A
Military
Affairs
and
public
protection
meeting
there's
one
more
Center,
Meredith
or
my
co-chair
will
have
that
next
month
and
we
look
forward
to
that.
Also,
we
have
a
bunch
of
guests
here
today
and
a
lot
of
them
will
be
speaking
so
we're
gonna
hold
off
on
that
we're
gonna
start
with
Pledge
of
Allegiance
and
the
prayer.
Oh
I'm.
Sorry
we're
going
to
start
with
roll
call.
Let's
do
that.
Logan.
B
D
A
Present
all
right,
I
think
we
have
a
quorum.
Didn't
we
we're
in
good
shape.
We
got
a
couple,
others
have
texted
me
they'll,
be
here
in
about
five
minutes
or
so
run
just
a
few
minutes
late.
So
we'll
ask
everyone
to
stand
for
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance
and
then
I've
asked
brother
fugit,
which
is
always
good
to
have
him
back
to
lead
us
in
a
prayer.
E
Let's
pray
together,
please
heavenly
father.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
talk
to
you
this
morning.
Thank
you
for
the
privilege
that
we
have
to
come
to
you
I.
Thank
you
for
this
committee
I.
Thank
you
for
our
military,
our
First
Responders
and
all
those
that
serve
to
protect
us
here,
Lord
and
on
foreign
lands.
Pray
should
bless
them
bless
their
families
and
Lord
I
pray.
You'd
bless
us
in
this
committee
help
us
to
have
your
wisdom
to
make
decisions.
That
would
be
a
help
to
those
who
protect
us
and
serve
us.
E
Lord
I
pray
you'd
help
us
as
we
serve
our
people
back
home
to
be
what
we're
supposed
to
be
I,
pray
for
those
that
are
hurting
back
home
for
the
flooding
and
all
that
I
pray
should
be
with
them,
provide
their
needs,
and
thank
you
for
what
you've
done
for
us
already
Lord
and
we
pray
to
give
us
a
good
day
today.
I
pray
you'd
help
us
to
live
to,
please
you
and
to
help
those
around
us.
We
ask
us
in
Jesus,
name,
amen,.
A
All
right,
this
is
one
of
the
very
few
meetings
that
we
are
not
recognizing
a
distinguished
vet
which
looks
like
we
still
have
plenty
in
the
audience,
but
we
were
kind
of
on
the
time
constraint
trying
to
get
a
lot
in
in
two
hours,
and
so
we
appreciate
everyone
being
here
so
good
to
see
everyone
live
here
too,
we
need
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
for
September.
If
you
see
them
there
have
a
motion.
Do
we
have
a
second?
A
We
have,
second,
all
right,
any
against
good,
all
right
we're
going
to
move
on
to
our
presentations.
We
do
ask
that
everyone
silence
their
phones
if
they
would
and
then
also
when
you
get
up
there,
you'll
see
the
microphones
just
make
sure
the
green
light
is
on
introduce
yourself
for
the
record
and
please
proceed
on
that.
So
we
need
Army,
Fort
Knox
get
General
coca
back
to
his
next
meeting.
There.
F
So
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
to
speak
here
today.
Let's
see
here,
if
I
can
figure
this
out
there,
we
go
okay,
so
a
quick
history
of
the
Knox
Regional
development
Alliance.
It
was
originally
the
core
committee,
which
is
a
20-some
year
organization
created
by
Business
Leaders
and
Community
leaders
in
the
Fort
Knox
region,
we'll.
F
F
Okay,
our
main
line
of
efforts
protect
us
protect
Missions
at
Fort,
Knox
and
advocate
for
New
Missions
at
Fort
Knox.
That
makes
sense
for
Fort
Knox.
We
do
this
through
efforts
through
the
Department
of
Defense
and
with
Congress.
We
work
to
expand,
contractor
presence
and
business
within
the
region.
We
have
relationships
with
large
and
small
contractors
with
existing
contracts
and
those
hoping
to
establish
new
contracts.
F
We
work
to
expand
Public
Public
Partnerships,
though
the
Hardin
County
government's
had
a
much
better
success
rate
at
that
than
we
have
and
we
like
to
create
opportunities
for
soldiers
and
their
families.
So
we
work
with
our
local
government
state
governments
and
the
federal
government
on
that
and
with
educational
institutions
to
create
opportunities
for
transitioning
soldiers
and
for
spouse,
employment
and
last
we
we
talk
about
the
great
potential
Fort
Knox
to
our
political
leadership.
Through
our
engagements
with
with
Congress.
F
So
knox's
Regional
impact,
2.8
billion
dollars
of
economic
impact
truth
be
told
a
lot
of
that,
based
on
the
nature
of
the
missions
at
Fort
Knox,
that's
a
global
reach.
So
a
lot
of
that
money
goes
worldwide
at
that
2.8
billion
dollars,
but
956
million
dollars
stays
in
the
local
area.
That's
the
payroll
for
Fort
Knox
22
000
employees
on
Fort
Knox,
the
second
largest
employer
in
Kentucky,
and
you
can
see
that
it
supports
13,
000
jobs
off
the
installation.
F
So
the
importance
of
Fort
Knox,
the
Army's
number
one
priority
is
people
without
Fort
Knox
there
is
no
Army
United
States
Army,
Recruiting,
Command,
United,
States,
Army,
Cadet
command
and
Human
Resources
command
manages
the
entire
life
cycle
of
soldiers
from
from
start
to
finish.
Additionally,
with
the
reactivation
of
fifth
Corps
at
Fort
Knox,
the
Strategic
importance
is
increasing,
with
all
the
activities
that
have
been
going
on
in
Europe
housing
of
families
for
on
and
off
post
at
Fort
Knox.
F
So
there's
Colonel
O'brien
will
talk
there,
establishing
new
homes
on
Fort
Knox,
but
the
military
housing
area
of
Fort
Knox.
That's
the
community
around
it,
which
would
house
about
70
percent
of
the
population
of
Fort
Knox,
is
there's
a
lot
of
housing
that
is
being
priced
out
of
the
ability
of
soldiers
to
to
rent
or
buy
those
homes
based
on
on
all
the
growth.
So
what
Ford
coming
I'll
get
to
that
when
I
talk
to
double-edged
sword
is
taking
up
a
lot
of
the
a
lot
of
the
housing.
F
The
Army
is
doing
a
study
of
the
military
housing
area
around
Fort
Knox
to
expand
the
reach
to
pay
basic
allowance
for
housing
for
those
for
those
soldiers
that
are
living
outside
that
housing
area.
Proximity,
Medical
Care,
when
the
CL,
when
the
hospital
closed,
became
a
clinic,
it's
right
size
for
the
population
of
the
military,
at
Fort
Knox,
but
with
family
members
and
some
of
the
care
that's
required.
A
lot
of
that
Specialty
Care
is
referred
off
the
installation
and
that
a
lot
of
that
is
a
distance
problem
and
availability
problem.
F
Vehicle
sales
tax
is
something
that
we
talked
about
last
year
and
it
it
was
something
that
was
brought
forward
last
year
by
representative
Nancy,
Tate
and
I'm,
hoping
that
it
gets
considered
again
if
a
soldier
buys
a
vehicle
outside
the
state
of
Kentucky
and
doesn't
pay
sales
tax
when
they
move
to
the
state
of
Kentucky,
they
have
to
pay
sales
tax
if
they
haven't
previously
paid
sales,
tax
and
I.
Think
in
many
cases
that
creates
an
undue
burden
for
soldiers
and
it's
certainly
a
burden
that
they
weren't
expecting
to
pay
and
I.
Think
that's!
F
You
know
that's
relevant
when
you
look
at
the
fact
that
if
an
active
duty
Soldier
bought
a
vehicle
in
the
state
of
Kentucky,
they
wouldn't
they
wouldn't
pay
sales
tax.
On
that
retirement
pay
income,
tax,
I
know
this
is
being
considered
by
the
overall
legislature
and
I
know.
The
intent
is
to
reduce
it
for
for
everybody
and
which
I
I
think
is
wonderful.
I
do
think
it
will,
when
that
does
begin
to
happen,
that
it
will
help
military
retention
and
attraction,
as
I
mentioned
during
the
Housing.
F
Community
growth
is
a
double-edged
sword,
while
Ford
new
core
and
the
spin-off
companies
that
are
coming
to
the
community
are
fantastic
and
they
are
they're
great
for
the
region
and
they
are
great
for
the
Commonwealth
of
Kentucky,
but
it
does
place
a
challenge
on
the
military
members
that
are
moving
into
the
area
for
housing
for
medical
care
for
traffic.
It's
a
challenge,
it'll
be
a
few
years,
but
we
will
we
will
overcome
it.
I'll.
Take
these
next
two
out
of
order.
F
The
digital
air
ground
integration
range
will
be
one
of
only
two
ranges
like
it
on
an
Army
Installation
and
the
only
one
east
of
the
Mississippi.
That's
a
fantastic
Initiative
for
the
Readiness
of
our
soldiers,
for
the
Readiness
of
the
army
and
for
the
Strategic
importance
of
Fort
Knox.
But
what
that's
going
to
change
is
that
quarter
off,
65
and
313,
which
has
been
quiet
for
many
years,
is
going
to
change.
F
First
quarter
24
when
the
dagger,
the
digital
air
ground
integration
range,
goes,
live
and
we've
been
working
with
kcma,
with
Fort
Knox
with
representative
Tate
and
with
the
Realtors
association
to
have
some
disclosures
put
into
a
buyer's
agreement
that
they
acknowledge
that
they
are
living
near
a
military
installation,
because
the
noise
of
that
digital
air
ground
integration
range
is
is
going
to
be
significant.
So
there's
a
lot
of
great
things
that
are
happening
at
at
Fort
Knox
as
I
mentioned.
There's
a
few
challenges,
but
I
think
we
will
certainly
overcome
them.
F
A
F
G
Okay,
so,
while
we're
working
to
get
the
slides
up,
I
just
want
to
say
it's
truly
an
honor
to
be
here
and
I.
Think,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time
today.
It's
great
to
be
able
to
do
this
in
person
Vice
over
Ms
teams
like
we
had
to
do
it
last
year.
So
again,
it's
great
to
be
here
and
just
as
we
pull
up
the
slide.
Just
a
couple
of
things.
G
We'll
talk
about
and
General
Iacocca
is
also
kind
of
a
hit
on
as
well
so
Fort
Knox
is
the
home
to
nine
General
officer,
commands
that
go
from
Three
Star
down
to
one
star
and
those
commands
themselves
go
ahead
and
jump
to
the
next
slide.
Please
and
those
are
the
commands
themselves,
are
within
forces
command.
They
are
within
training
and
Doctrine
command
and
they
are
also
within
the
U.S
Army
Reserves.
We've
already
talked
about
fifth
Corps.
G
We
have
received
them
back
from
Europe
and
they
are
dealing
with
that
European
problem
set
and
we
talk
about
the
people
first,
so
between
U.S
Army,
Recruiting,
Command
U.S
army
Cadet
command
our
human
resources
command.
That
is
your
recruiters
they're.
Bringing
new
soldiers
in
every
day
get
their
start
at
Fort
Knox.
The
vast
majority
of
your
newly
commissioned
second
lieutenants
get
their
start
at
Fort
Knox
during
Cadet
summer
training,
that
is
the
training
they
go
to
to
validate
them
as
worthy
to
be
commissioned
officers
and
then
Human.
G
Resources
command
is
kind
of
your
talent,
management
cradle
degree
management
from
E1.
So
from
a
private
to
a
colonel
such
as
me,
U.S
army,
Human,
Resources
command.
Does
that
now
first
theater
sustainment
command.
They
have
a
Middle
East
Mission.
They
run
the
sustainment
and
logistics
for
U.S,
Central
Command,
so
out
throughout
the
Middle
East.
That's
where
first
TSC
is
at
first
Army
U.S,
our
first
U.S
army
division
East.
They
are
in
charge
of
helping
train
our
National,
Guard
and
reservists
when
they
are
mobilized
for
deployment.
G
84Th
training
command
is
a
reserve
command
that
helps
with
leadership
development,
the
US
Army
Reserve
Aviation
command.
So
we
are
the
home
of
the
U.S
Army
Reserve
Aviation
command,
so
we
have
about
45
of
their
Blackhawks
and
six
or
seven
of
their
c-12
fixed
Wing
aircraft
out
on
Goblin,
Army
Airfield
and
in
the
Hunter's
Training.
Division
is:
does
training
specific
to
military,
occupational
skills
and
non-commissioned
officer
education.
G
Our
daytime
work
week
is
about
25
000
folks
that
split
up
you
know
the
majorities
Are
Soldiers
has
followed
very
closely
by
civilians
and
then
our
dependents.
The
one
thing
I
will
note
with
that
is
that
during
Cadet
summer
training,
so
between
May
and
August
of
every
year,
we
actually
have
another
town
that
arrives
at
Fort
Knox,
so
we'll
have
about
15
000
extra
people
on
the
installation
that
we're
supporting
to
support
that
Cadet
summer
training,
along
with
that
October
November.
So
it's
going
on
right
now
we
have
the
command
Assessment
program.
G
So
every
future
Battalion
Commander
Brigade,
Commander
Battalion
command
sergeant
major
command
chaplain
to
include
some
civilians
in
the
Acquisitions
and
Logistics
Arena.
They
will
come
to
Fort
Knox
to
get
certified
that
they
are
ready
to
take
command
or
ready
to
take
that
increased
leadership
position,
and
that's
about
2
000
folks
that
we'll
have
between
October
and
November
extra
to
the
installation.
We
are
a
very
large
installation,
almost
100,
and
over
108
000
Acres
General
Iacocca
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
the
digital
air
ground.
G
Integration
range:
we
are
the
third
most
utilized
range
complex
in
the
United
States,
and
we
think
when
that
range
comes
online
we
probably
could
bump
up
to.
Second
because,
like
he
said
it's,
the
only
one
east
of
the
Mississippi
and
the
next
closest
one
is
at
Fort
Bliss.
So
we
expect
our
numbers
to
increase
when
that
range
goes.
Hot
it'll
probably
be
happening.
G
The
fall
of
23
three,
but
when
that
thing
is
fully
operational,
we're
going
to
see
a
whole
lot
more
traffic,
that's
going
through
Fort
Knox,
which
is
also
good,
for
you,
know
the
local
areas
and
the
economies
as
well,
and
on
top
of
that
Fort
knox's
pose
for
future
growth.
We
are
all
all
the
time
getting
looked
at
for
stationing
the
Army.
It's
called
a
5-10
stationing
packet,
which
is
our
formal
Staffing
process
to
put
new
units
on
installations,
so
the
command
Assessment
program.
G
We
are
working
with
them
right
now
in
the
Army
talent
management
task
force
to
permanently
station
that
command
Assessment
program.
We
have
also
been
looked
at
for
a
couple
of
other
Battalion
sized
units
that
could
possibly
in
the
future,
be
stationed
at
Fort.
Knox
and
add
to
our
numbers
next
slide,
please
and
one
of
the
big
things
for
me
as
a
Garrison
Commander.
G
The
strength
of
Fort
Knox
is
directly
related
to
the
strength
of
our
neighbors,
whether
it's
economics,
it's
protection
whatever
it
may
be,
how
Fort
Knox
go
so
does
our
neighbors,
Hardin,
County
and
Meade
County
have
have
new
in
the
industry
coming
to
them
and
that's
going
to
be
an
awesome
thing.
I
told
mayor
Gregory
at
heart,
at
E-Town
and
I've
talked
with
Pam
Ogden
and
Vine
Grove
and
J.J
Duvall
and
Radcliffe.
G
You
have
a
wicked
problem,
but
it's
a
great
problem
to
have
so
we're
very
excited
of
working
with
them
hand
in
hand
to
get
after
what's
coming
to
Hardin
County
as
well
as
out
in
Meade
County.
So
we
work
closely
with
the
Kentucky
Commission
on
Military
Affairs,
so
Steve
Bullard,
I,
think
he's
in
here.
One
of
the
great
things
we've
worked
with
them
and
it's
dropping
to
the
last
bullet
is
that
military
child
care
in
your
neighborhood
plus
I
think
eight
states
have
that
I
will
be
very
happy
to
see.
G
Kentucky
become
the
ninth
State
one
of
the
things
we
deal
with
on
the
installation,
so
we
provide
child
our
Child
Development
Centers,
so
we
divide
provide
child
care
from
ages.
You
know
zero
up
until
five
is
in
our
cdc's
and
then
our
school
age
children
will
also
attend,
as
well
as
our
middle
school
and
teenagers.
We
have
positions,
we
have
locations
for
them
as
well.
G
Right
now,
just
based
on
Staffing.
Everybody
is
working,
everybody's
working,
the
same
thing
we
are
and
that's
you
know
getting
Talent
on
board
and
keeping
them
on
board.
So
we
are
getting
a
new
Child,
Development
Center,
we'll
probably
have
the
contract
done
sometime
this
month
or
next
month
and
we'll
start
breaking
ground
on
that.
So
we'll
get
a
new
Child,
Development
Center
that'll
be
able
to
take
at
take
care
of
384
children
from
ages
zero
to
five.
G
So
that's
a
great
thing,
I
think
that's
one
of
the
most
important
services
that
we
provide
to
our
soldiers
and
our
families
on
the
installation,
soldiers
and
families
nowadays
is
not
like.
When
I
came
in
in
1998,
where
a
lot
of
times
the
spouses
didn't
work
and
we're
stay
at
home,
stay-at-home
parents,
now
today
we
see
soldiers
doing
their
job
and
a
lot
of
spouses
have
professional
degrees.
They
want
to
work.
G
They
want
to
do
these
things
so
being
able
to
have
a
Child
Development
Center
that
they
can
know
that
will
give
them
the
gold
standard
in
child
care
and
give
them
the
confidence
in
their
abilities
for
their
children
to
be
taken.
Care
of
will
only
allow
them
to
number
one
train
and
be
ready,
but
will
also
allow
their
spouses
to
to
work
their
careers
as
well,
so
kdva
Whitney
Allen
worked
with
them
quite
a
bit.
G
I
was
at
the
kdva
national
con
or
their
state
conference
about
a
month
ago,
in
Lexington
great
organization
and
the
things
that
they
do
for
the
veterans
here
in
Kentucky.
They
it's
just
an
outstanding
organization.
We
actually
have
a
kdva
rep
that
is
here
there
on
Fort
Knox,
Knox
Regional
development
alliance,
with
with
General
Iacocca,
as
well
as
his
cost.
He
works.
The
casa
hat
as
well.
G
I
I
am
I,
am
the
lead
integrator
for
all
services
on
the
installation,
but
I
also
have
a
commitment
to
the
community
and
and
general
Iacocca
helps
me
get
after
that.
He's
kind
of
my
lead,
integrator
outside
of
the
installation,
but
being
able
to
number
one
I,
think
one
of
the
number
one
things
is
make
soldiers
and
their
spouses
successful
is
one
of
the
things
we're
really
pushing
for
Lincoln
Trail
working
with
Dan
London.
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
the
real
estate.
G
That's
going
to
be
out
there
outside
of
Yano
in
the
dagger
range
working
with
them,
because
what
we
don't
want
to
do
is
impede
our
neighbors
from
continuing
to
grow
and
develop,
but
we
also
have
to
protect
our
mission
on
Fort
Knox
because
we
are
directly
getting
after
the
Readiness
of
our
nation's
forces.
So
working
with
them
in
our
compatible
use
plan
has
been
has
been.
G
G
Civic
organizations
I
got
to
talk
to
Bardstown
Rotary
Club
last
month
to
give
them
an
update
on
what's
going
on
in
in
Fort
Knox,
but
along
with
that,
the
Hardin
County
Chamber
of
Commerce,
the
Meade
County
Chamber
of
Commerce,
the
Radcliffe
small
business,
Alliance
and
working
hand
in
hand
with
them
and
then
the
ectc
Dr
Pate.
You
know
he
he's
very
passionate
about
what
he
does
and
there's
a
few
lines
that
I've
stolen
from
him
and
speeches
that
I've
used
my
myself
to
get
after
that.
But
it's
really.
G
You
know
things
that
are
going
on
Hardin
County
and
what
ectc
is
doing
as
far
as
Workforce
Development
is
only
going
to
set
that
region
up
for
success
and
then
so
we
are
working
with
Elizabethtown
Regional
Airport.
So
the
story
behind
this
is
our
Goblin.
Army
Airfield
is
not
capable
of
handling
fully
loaded
c-17s,
which
is
the
primary
transport
capability
that
we'd
be
using.
G
If
we
were
having
to
deploy
forces,
our
only
other
options
is
out
of
the
airport
in
Louisville
or
two
hours
down
the
road
at
at
Fort
Campbell,
so
we're
working
hand
in
hand
with
Elizabethtown
to
help
them
because,
as
you
know,
they
are
expanding
as
well
between
Hardin,
County
and
E-Town
that
and
that
airport
is
going
to
be
servicing
a
lot
more,
so
we're
working
with
them
on
how
to
get
after
expanding
that
airport,
but
also
making
it
C-17
capable
and
then
Hardin
County
Water
districts
number
one
and
number
two
without
their
help
with
our
water
infrastructure.
G
We
would
not
be
where
we're
at
right
now.
So
recently
we
just
had
the
mole
dry,
Water,
Treatment
Plant,
come
online
capability
is
producing
seven
million
gallons
of
water
a
day
we
need
about
2
million
gallons,
but
without
their
ability
to
invest
in
our
infrastructure
we
would
not
get
there
and
the
same
thing
goes
with
Nolan
recc,
excellent
Partners.
Our
our
energy
program
started
in
2009
after
the
ice
storm
and
has
only
continued
to
grow,
making
us
the
dod's
first
energy
independent
installation,
so
we
can
produce
about
44
megawatts
hour.
G
We
only
use
about
18
depending
on
what
month
it
is
so
we
have
some
Excess
power
there
we're
getting
after
waste
to
go
a
little
bit
Greener,
as
you
know,
we're
sitting
on
top
of
a
lot
of
of
natural
gas.
So
we're
utilizing
that
but,
like
I
said
between
Hardin
County
Water
districts
number
one
number
two
and
Nolan
recc.
G
We
can
produce
our
own
energy,
we
can
make
our
own
drinking
water
and
we
can
treat
our
waste
water
so
we're
we.
What
we
like
to
call
we're
islandable
and
that's
all
on
the
installation,
and
then
we've
already
talked
about
the
real
estate
disclosure
agreements
and
then
the
advocacy
portion
that
military
child
care
in
your
neighborhood
and,
like
I,
said
we
really
appreciate
kcma's
focus
on
that
Force,
but
pitting
your
question,
sir
I'll
turn
it
back.
A
Alrighty,
well,
we
appreciate
your
testimony.
I
believe
the
the
real
estate
issue
was
that
not
that
was
hurt
in
Illinois
recently
over
the
summer.
Wasn't
it
licensed
occupation?
Okay,.
A
So
good,
so
it's
on
on
track.
Hopefully
we
can
get
that
passed
before.
Y'all
start
that
firing
up
there,
it's
gonna
get
loud.
We
do
have
just
a
couple
questions
and
members
if
it's
nothing
pressing
that
y'all
can
catch
these
guys
or
so
after
the
meeting
or
something
like
that,
I
urge
you
to
you
see.
Our
agenda
is
going
to
be
long,
but
I
have
representative
bratcher
go.
I
I
Retiree
income
and
we
we
go
up
the
first
31
000.
Something
is
exempt,
that's
correct
and
you're
wanting
it
to
be
zero
right.
I
mean
that's,
that's
been
the
yes.
A
G
Yes,
sir,
so
Andy
will
talk
a
little
bit
too.
We
don't
transition
as
much
folk
as
many
folks
out
per
month
as
Andy
does
just
because
he
has
a
divisional,
a
divisional
post,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I've
really
noticed
with
the
nine
General
officer
commands
that
we
have
on
the
installation.
G
We
are
a
very
senior
population
and
so
when
our
folks
transition
and
retire
they're
retiring
as
Master
sergeants
sergeant,
majors
Lieutenant,
Colonels
Colonels,
there's
a
lot
of
wealth
of
experience
with
those
folks
that
are
transitioning
that
you
know
the
talent.
That's
there
I
know
a
lot
of
folks
will
look.
You
know
when
they
look
for
where
they're
going
to
next
they're,
going
to
take
a
look
at
veterans,
benefits
and
or
veterans
and
retiree
benefits
in
the
States
they're
going
to
so
it
is.
It
is
a
a
part
of
the
calculus
of
retirement.
A
J
Thank
you
Mr
chairman,
thank
you,
General
Coca,
and
thank
you
all
for
your
service
I'm.
The
last
time
you
all
spoke
to
us.
There
was
an
issue
with
the
the
nurses
pay
at
the
hospital,
and
it
was
you
know
it.
Wasn't
the
pay
wasn't
as
high
as
it
could
be.
You
know
other
places
did
that
get
resolved
for
the
nurses
pay
there
at
the
hospital.
G
So
I
wish
I
had
Colonel
Karen
Vernon
here
she's
the
commander
of
Ireland
Army,
Health
Clinic,
but
I
will
tell
you,
we
have
a
VA
community-based
clinic
and
they
do
lose
folks
from
Ireland
to
the
we
call
it.
The
VAC
and
again
nurses
and
I
know
she's
worked
with
Justin
Pate
at
ectc,
as
well
as
to
try
to
provide
a
pipeline
to
get
nurses
into
Ireland.
But
as
far
as
the
pay
issues
Go,
sir
I
I
know
they're
still
losing
folks
over
to
the
VAC
Buck.
G
J
You
on
that,
thank
you,
Fort
Knox
is
very
important.
We
know
not
just
until
all
over
all
of
the
Commonwealth
and
and
thank
you
for
all
what
you
do.
F
Thank
you
and
I'd
add
that
I
talked
to
Colonel
Vernon
a
couple
weeks
ago,
okay
and
that
DHA,
the
defense
health
agency,
is
doing
a
Manpower
study
that
we'll
we'll
look
at
all
those
issues
and
she
has
several
hiring
actions
out
for
doctors
and
nurses.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
I,
thank
everyone,
we're
good
on
questions.
We,
gentlemen,
we
sure
appreciate
you
all
being
here
and
being
in
person
instead
of
looking
at
little
squares
on
the
TV,
we're
so
glad
that
we're
able
to
do
this
now
be
careful
heading
home
and
we
appreciate
y'all
being
here
thanks.
Thank
you
appreciate
your
time.
Thank
you
all
right.
Let's
go
ahead
from
closer
to
my
home
and
Center
westerfields
and
Myron
Dawson's
home,
we're
always
glad
to
see
Miss,
Kelly
and
Kelly.
A
A
A
All
right
so
introduce
yourself,
sir,
and
we'll
the.
K
Floor
is
yours:
okay,
good
morning
my
name
is
Colonel
Andy
Jordan,
The,
Garrison
Commander
at
Fort
Campbell,
and
thank
you
so
much
Mr,
chairman
and
and
members
of
the
committee
for
for
inviting
us
this
morning
and
and
letting
us
share
a
little
bit
about
Fort,
Campbell
and
the
and
the
great
support
that
we
receive
from
from
the
Commonwealth
of
Kentucky
and
especially
the
the
the
communities
down
in
Western
Kentucky
that
really
take
care
of
our
soldiers
and
families.
K
K
If
you'd
like
to
dig
in
a
little
bit
more,
but
this
first
slide
is,
is
simply
an
overview
of
what
what
the
Garrison
does,
what
the
installation
does
and
how
we
we
Nest
our
priorities
from
from
my
level
down
there,
the
Garrison
Commander
level
all
the
way
up
through
Army
material
command,
which
is
a
four-star
command
that
sets
it
Redstone
Arsenal
in
Huntsville,
Alabama
that
that
owns
every
Army
Installation
across
the
globe.
K
So
there
again,
you
can
see
Soldier
and
Family,
Programs,
Soldier
and
and
family
Readiness,
there's
kind
of
a
a
trend
there
right.
What
is
the
Army's
priority?
And
that's
that's
people
first
and
and
the
people
are
what
what
make
our
Army
Strong.
So
all
the
way
up
to
very
senior
leaders,
we're
focused
on
on
things
like
physical
Readiness,
family
housing,
Barracks.
All
of
those
things
that
that
really
focus
on
the
people.
K
So
we
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
the
soldiers
and
and
the
units
that
call
Fort,
Campbell,
home
and
I'll.
Tell
you
that
the
Strategic
importance
that
Fort
Campbell
holds
in
our
nation
is
is
really
Second.
K
To
None,
when,
when
you
look
at
at
the
units
that
that
call
Fort
Campbell
home
and
that
have
been
involved
in
continual
combat
operations
in
support
of
our
nation
since
since
September
11th
of
2001
to
present
day,
you've
got
some
of
the
most
deployed
units
and
some
of
the
most
combat
effective
units
in
the
Department
of
Defense
and
I'll
start
there
on
the
bottom,
because
that's
my
alma
mater,
that's
fifth
Special
Forces,
Group
and
and
160th
Special,
Operations,
Aviation
regiment
and
then
the
101st
Airborne,
Division,
fifth
Special,
Forces,
Group
and
then
160th
were
were
involved
very
very
early
on
when
the
phone
rang
on
911
from
Washington
DC.
K
It
rang
at
Fort
Campbell
a
little
cliche
there,
but
but
truly
it
did.
Those
two
units
were
some
of
the
first
to
go:
go
defend
our
Nation
against
the
attacks
of
9
11
and
they
continue
to
be
to
be
involved
in
combat
operations.
K
They
they
were
involved
in
combat
operations
on
a
daily
basis
and
then
continue
to
be
deployed
to
those
areas
and
then
closely
closely
behind
was
the
101st
Airborne,
Division
I
went
to
to
Afghanistan
and
continues
to
to
to
serve
our
nation,
but
the
101st,
Special,
Forces,
Group
and
160th
were
really
the
first
ones
in
the
Afghanistan
after
9,
11.
K
and
and
what's
what's
key,
there
is,
is
many
of
the
families
that
call
Fort
Campbell
home,
especially
in
in
fifth
group
and
160th,
are
the
ones
that
their
spouses
have
careers.
Their
children
go
k
through
12,
because
those
are
very
niche
market
organizations
where
the
where
the
soldiers
have
a
very,
very
tight
focus
on
what
they,
what
they
do
and
how
they
serve
and
their
families
remain
in
those
in
those
units.
K
So
so
they're
really
part
of
the
community
in
the
101st
is
a
close
second
to
that
where
they
have
a
lot
of
repeat
rotations
into
that
unit.
So
the
families
that
call
Fort
Campbell
home
are
not
what
you
would
necessarily
typically
think
of
an
Army
Family
two
years
and
out
and
go
somewhere
else.
They
may
be
two
to
three
years:
four
years
there
go
somewhere
for
a
short
period
and
come
right
back
to
Fort,
Campbell
and
and
that's
by
Design
because
of
the
the
units
that
are
there
next
slide.
K
Please
we
already
got
it
everybody's
tracking.
K
What's
going
on
in
Europe
right
now,
we're
proud
to
say
that
for
for
the
first
time
in
several
decades
the
101st
Airborne
Division
is
back
in
Europe
Screaming
Eagle
soldiers
are
serving
in
15
different
countries
and
they're
supporting
a
wide
range
of
military
operations,
from
training
with
our
allies,
to
deterring
aggression,
reassuring
our
allies
and
and
and
making
you
know,
making
the
Army
proud
and
continuing
to
make
make
the
nation
proud
as
they
as
they
they
serve
in
Europe
and
and
show
show
the
flag
and
and
that
that
Screaming
Eagle
patch.
K
If
you
look
at
old
Abe
the
the
patch,
that's
synonymous
with
Fort
Campbell,
it's
probably
the
most
well-known
military
insignia
in
the
world,
and
that's
that's
for
a
reason.
We
have
a
very
long
lineage
and
a
very
long
history
and
our
our
Screaming
Eagles
of
today
are
continuing
to
carry
on
that
history
and
lineage
in
in
Europe,
so
Fort
Campbell
is
is
very
fortunate
and
we
are
one
of
the
only
Army
installations
that
has
all
four
modes
of
of
power
projection
capability.
K
We've
got
two
airfields:
Campbell
Army
Airfield
on
the
Kentucky
side,
up
on
the
North
there
in
Christian
County
and
then
saber
Army
Airfield
on
the
south
side
of
Montgomery
County
Tennessee.
Both
of
those
are
critical
to
our
ability
to
project
power
anywhere
around
the
globe.
We've
also
got
rail,
water
and
and
of
course,
I-24
runs
right
by
the
by
the
installation.
K
I
like
this
slide
here
it
shows
the
economic
impact
of
Fort
Campbell
on
our
on
our
region.
It
was
it
was.
The
economic
research
study
was
put
together
by
the
center
of
economic
research
in
Tennessee
in
2019,
there's
actually
a
MBA
candidate
at
at
Murray
State
right
now.
That
is
working
on
something
similar
for
Kentucky
as
well,
so
we'll
have
one
of
both.
K
But
but
this
shows
the
region
and
you
can
see
where
Fort
Campbell
lies
in
between
Kentucky
or
in
between
yeah,
in
between
Kentucky
and
Tennessee
right
there
on
the
border.
If
you
look
at
the
city
of
Fort
Campbell,
our
Cantonment
area,
a
huge
portion
of
that
is,
is
on
the
on
the
Kentucky
side.
If
you
look
a
lot
of
that
area
down
on
the
Tennessee
side
of
the
state
line,
is
our
training
area?
K
That's
what
we
call
our
Back
40
a
lot
of
our
range
complex
and
things
like
that,
but
but,
as
far
as
the
city
of
Fort
Campbell,
a
huge
portion
of
it
does
lie
on
the
Kentucky
side
of
the
state
line,
so
10.1
billion
dollars
about
about
4
billion
of
that
is
direct
inject.
You
can
see
on
the
bottom
right
there
from
Soldier
pay,
retiree,
pay
and
and
other
other
ways.
K
We
inject
money,
military
construction
and
things
of
that
nature,
and
then
the
remainder
is
what
businesses
would
not
exist
if
it
weren't
for
the
242
000
service
members,
family
members
and
veterans
that
call
Fort
Campbell
home
all
right.
Let's
go
to
the
next
slide.
We
talk
about
yeah,
Colonel
O'brien
mentioned
it,
the
the
the
the
number
of
soldiers
that
that
leave
Fort
Campbell
every
day
or
every
month
or
every
year,
between
four
thousand
and
five
thousand
On
Any
Given
year.
K
We'll
we'll
leave
the
service
at
Fort,
Campbell
and
those
are
from
Junior
soldiers
that
came
in
right
out
of
high
school
served
four
years
and
and
and
their
term
of
service
expired
and
they
they
go
on
about
their
their
life
and
go
back
in
as
a
productive
member
of
society
or
they're.
More
seasoned
folks
command,
sergeants
Majors,
Lieutenant,
Colonels,
Chief,
Warrant
officers,
fours
and
fives
Colonels
General
officers
that
that
leave
the
service.
K
So
we
like
to
to
look
at
Fort
Campbell,
truly
as
a
Workforce
engine
for
the
region,
we've
got
every
every
everything
from
you
know:
new
team
members
in
an
organization
that
are
ready
to
come
in
and
be
your
employee
of
the
month,
employee
of
the
quarter
employee
of
the
year.
Those
are
those
young
soldiers
who
are
eager
to
start
their
start,
their
careers
to
folks
that
are
that
have
run
and
and
commanded
and
led
organizations
of
thousands
of
soldiers
and
billions
of
dollars
of
of
responsibility
that
are
now
ready
to
go.
K
Lead
organizations
lead
lead
companies
in
Industry
and
can
really
provide
something
that
they've
learned
over
those
Decades
of
military
experience.
We
have
some
really
great
programs,
we're
continuing
to
look
at
some
great
programs
between
the
installation
and
and
Campbell
strong,
but
but
really
encourage
your
your
businesses
and
and
your
your
people
that
are
looking
for
for
a
Workforce
to
to
really
think
about
Fort
Campbell
and
that
Workforce
engine
that
we
provide
I'm
going
to
skip
this
next
slide.
K
And
just
if
you
look
at
housing
on
Fort
Campbell,
we
are
we're
over
the
next
six
years,
going
to
inject
about
a
third
of
a
billion
dollars,
roughly
300
or
300,
and
a
little
more
than
320
million
dollars
into
housing
on
Fort
Campbell.
What
that's
going
to
bring
right
now!
K
That's
going
to
bring
military
construction
and,
if
you
looked
at
one
of
those
injects
in
that
pie,
chart
earlier
military
construction
is
a
big
piece
of
that,
so
about
a
third
of
a
billion
dollars
will
be
injected
into
our
homes
on
on
the
installation
to
to
create
those
homes
that
we
believe
that
our
service
members
deserve
as
far
as
quality
and
standard
of
living
and
then
and
then
we'll
continue
to
upgrade
and
modernize
some
of
our
other
homes
on
the
installation,
along
with
with
new
construction
and
then
lastly,
I
couldn't
have
a
brief
without
talking
about
barracks
and
how
we're
working
continually
to
improve
the
quality
of
life
for
our
soldiers.
K
The
the
barracks
that
that
are
most
familiar
to
many
people
on
Fort
Campbell
are
volunteer
army
volar
barracks
that
were
were
built
in
the
late
70s
and
early
80s,
and
that's
our
first
brigade
combat
team
we're
in
the
process
of
renovating
over
the
next
several
years.
17
the
17
volar
Barracks.
We've
got
six
under
former
any
form
of
renovation
to
to
being
completed
in
the
next
few
months
to
to
awarding
and
funding
the
contract
a
couple
of
months
ago.
K
So
we
have
11
remaining
over
the
out
years
that
will
continue
to
invest
and
there
again
military
construction,
injecting
into
the
economy
and
also
providing
a
higher
quality
and
standard
of
living
for
our
soldiers.
K
L
L
So
a
little
bit
about
the
Campbell
strong
defense,
Alliance
Colonel
Jordan
just
talked
to
you
about
Fort
Campbell
in
the
in
the
major
tenant
units
there.
So
I'm
not
going
to
go
over
that
again
and
also
the
impact
of
Fort
Campbell.
But
again,
what
I
want
to
reiterate
is
the
economic
impact
of
Fort
Campbell
on
on
the
region.
L
So
a
10,
you
know
billion
dollar
economic
impact
and
it
is
the
number
one
single
largest
employer
for
Kentucky,
so
very
important
installation
that
we
want
to
protect
and
potentially
grow
a
little
bit
about
Campbell
strong
I'm
not
going
to
go
too
far
into
this,
but
we
were
set
up
in
2015
in
response
to
the
deactivation
of
some
units
on
Fort
Campbell,
which
resulted
in
a
loss
of
about
5
000
soldiers
that
when
we
do
lose
soldiers
that
does
have
a
large
economic
impact
on
the
economy
in
the
regional
economy.
L
Just
briefly
about
our
vision,
we
are
we
serve
as
the
regional
Champion
for
Fort
Campbell
region
or
a
regional
champion
of
both
Kentucky
and
Tennessee,
and
last
year
we
we
kind
of
did
a
restructuring
to
align
our
strategic
goals
and
vision
with
the
installation
strategy
in
the
Army's
mission
and-
and
it
came
out
with
those
four
bullet
points
really
to
support
soldiers
and
their
family,
to
strengthen
Readiness
and
resiliency
modernize
and
innovate
and
promote
stewardship.
L
That's
our
board
of
directors!
You'll
recognize
maybe
a
few
of
those
names,
but
it
is
a
combination
of
military
leaders
and
Industry
and
Business
Leaders
in
both
Kentucky
and
Tennessee
region.
L
So
some
of
the
successes
we've
had
so
far,
we
were
able
to
establish
a
mechatronics
program
with
several
colleges
in
the
region
that
turned
out
to
be
very
successful
with
those
schools.
We
also
helped
establish
a
Workforce
partnership
that
was
a
seven
million
dollar
Department
of
Labor
Grant
and
that
allowed
for
companies
to
hire
military
spouses
for
several
weeks
on
that
dime
and
they
were
and
turned
out
to
be
very
successful.
L
So
they
were
able
to
bring
folks
in
and
see
how
that
relationship
worked
out
and
then
bring
them
on
full
time,
so
it
really
helped
with
employment
and
then
the
VK
integrative
systems.
Again.
We
are
also
looking
to
bring
companies
into
the
area
in
the
defense
and
aviation
industry
again
to
grow
that
economic
impact.
Our
footprint
within
that
within
those
Industries
and
sectors
I
want
to
briefly
touch
on
the
support
of
future
vertical
lift
because
we
worked
with
you
all
and
I
appreciate
your
help
on
that.
L
We
worked
with
the
state
legislature
for
Kentucky
and
Tennessee,
had
a
joint
resolution
at
Fort
Campbell
that
we
presented
to
General
Rubin,
who
was
over
the
future
vertical
lift
cross-functional
team.
So
for
those
who
may
not
be
familiar
with
future
vertical
lift,
let
me
just
sum
it
up
quickly:
the
Army
is
modernizing
a
lot
of
its
assets
and
one
of
those
is
Aviation
and
because
Fort
Campbell
is
home
of
the
101st
and
the
160th
Special
Operations
Aviation
regiment.
L
The
aviation
modernization
is
very
important
and
critical
to
us,
and
so
we
want
to
Advocate
and
make
sure
that
we're
supportive
of
that
and
hopefully
be
the
first
to
field
and
train
on
future
vertical
lift.
So
we
appreciate
your
help
on
all
of
that
and
then
again
for
the
Barrett
Renovations.
We
helped
at
the
federal
level
secure
funding
for
those
Barracks
as
well,
so
future
vertical
lift
again,
that's
just
a
little
snapshot.
L
The
down
select
coming
soon
for
one
of
those
prototypes,
but
in
2030
for
those
of
us
for
those
of
you
who
are
in
the
area
and
see
those
helicopters
fly
every
day.
The
skies
will
look
much
different
by
2030.
As
we
modernize
those
Aviation
assets,
and
so
it's
going
to
look
pretty
cool,
we're
excited
about
it,
but
what
I
liked
it
when
I'm
doing
presentations
across
the
state,
especially
with
folks
and
representatives
from
all
across
the
state,
are
the
Commonwealth?
Is
that's
really
nice
Kelly?
But
what
has
that
got
to
do
with
me?
L
Well,
it
has
a
lot
to
do
with
you.
So
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
economic
impact
that
Fort
Campbell
has
on
this
state
as
well
as
a
few
other
points
that
I
want
to
mention.
So
I
sent
this
map
out
several
years
ago,
representative
Dawson
I
think
you
still
have
it
in
your
office
that
we
showed
you.
Don't
it's
an
aerial
view.
Senator
Westerfield
you'll
appreciate
those
Aerials,
so
you
don't
necessarily
have
to
even
know
where
the
state
line
is
to
see
where
the
state
line
is
Right.
L
Lots
of
growth
to
the
south
of
us
as
Nashville
has
become
a
hot
spot.
It
is
a
lot
of
growth
there,
which
is
pushing
north
we've.
Seen
our
city
to
the
south
of
us
in
Clarksville,
really
really
explode
with
growth,
and
they
are
doing
very
well.
So
you'll
see
a
lot
of
development
there.
Now
we
do.
We
are
blessed
to
have
a
lot
of
Agriculture
and
farmland
in
our
area,
but
we
also
want
to
take
advantage
of
that
growth
and
that's
something
that's
Kentucky
as
a
whole
can
can
really.
L
We
really
need
your
all's
help
to
be
competitive
and
to
help
recruit
and
retain
that
talent
in
our
area,
so
the
opportunities
again
the
workforce,
it
was
mentioned
by
Colonel
Jordan
there.
Let
me
reiterate:
three
to
500
soldiers
transition
every
month,
every
month
out
of
Fort
Campbell
as
we're
talking
about
a
Workforce,
and
we
know
that
it
is
extremely
competitive
on
the
civilian
sector
right
now
to
get
a
Workforce,
that's
a
talent
pool
that
is,
unlike
any
other,
that
can
be
tapped
into.
We
just
have
to
be
competitive,
to
retain
them
and
recruit
them.
L
So
the
income
tax
piece
is
very
important.
I'll
talk
about
that
in
a
second
also
population
growth.
You
know
that's
important
as
well.
One
of
the
first
things
the
last
couple
of
Governors
have
talked
to
me
about
is
population
growth
and
that's
one
area
that
we
can
increase
our
population.
Also,
that
comes
with
multipliers
such
as
education,
Investments
and
other
resources,
because
you're
not
only
retaining
the
soldier
but
their
family
and
sometimes
their
children
as
well.
The
barriers
that
we
have
income
tax
was
was
mentioned
a
minute
ago.
L
I've
testified
on
that.
A
few
times
appreciate
representative
Thomas,
always
introducing
that,
but
the
income
tax
is
something
that
we
definitely
want
to
look
at.
All
the
states
around
us,
minus
Virginia
is
has
gone
to
zero
income
tax
for
our
military.
We
went
the
other
way
a
few
years
ago.
By
decreasing
the
cap.
We
need
to
do
a
better
job
and
being
competitive,
and
not
only
thanking
our
military
families
for
their
service
and
sacrifice,
but
also
again
retaining
that
Talent
education.
We
just
need
more
investment
in
Western
Kentucky.
L
It
is,
it
is
a
crown
little
Crown
Jewel.
It
could
be
a
really
explosive
piece
for
Kentucky's
growth
and
we
know
that
that's
an
opportunity-
housing
as
well
so
you're,
seeing
because
of
the
boom
and
and
what
we've
experienced
with
housing
market
in
the
last
year,
or
so
it
is
outpacing
the
soldiers
housing
allowance,
and
so
we
need
to
do
to
be
competitive.
In
what
Garrison
said,
the
Garrison
before
Colonel
Jordan
said
frequently
is
hey
Kentucky.
You
have
an
opportunity
here.
L
You
know
we
really
could
use
some
housing
down
in
our
region,
and
this
is
a
great
place
to
do
it.
So
we
just
need
we
need
to
to
continue
to
explore.
How
do
we
increase
housing
in
Western,
Kentucky
and
then
Workforce
opportunities
as
well?
So
looking
for
industry
and
career
opportunities
for
to
retain
the
talent,
we
have
everything
from
A
to
Z
coming
out
of
the
military.
L
You
have
e4ers
and
infantry
that
have
just
been
in
a
couple
years,
and
then
you
have
folks
like
Colonel
Jordan
who
come
from
Special
Forces
and
then
now
is
over
at
the
101st
side,
but
has
a
long,
extensive
career
or
great
leadership
skills.
There's
a
wide
variety
of
talent
from
A
to
Z
coming
out
of
Fort
Campbell,
and
we
want
to
try
to
recruit
companies
and
industries
to
Kentucky
that
will
retain
that
Talent.
So
there
is
a
large,
wealthy
resource
right
there
on
the
state
line
that
is
very
beneficial
to
the
Commonwealth.
L
So
we
just
need
to
work
harder
to
support
it,
and
the
last
thing
I'll
say
about
Fort
Campbell
is
be
proud
of
it
when
I
moved
to
Kentucky.
I
really
didn't
have
much
experience
at
all
with
the
military.
I
was
a
journalist.
My
first
story,
I
covered
as
a
journalist,
was
at
Fort
Campbell,
the
memorial
service
for
18
soldiers
and
from
that
point
on
I
I
covered
them
extensively
in
O3.
When
we
went
to
war-
and
it's
been
amazing-
it's
been
my
honor
to
serve
with
the
most
amazing
tenants
and
units
in
in
our
military.
L
It
is,
it
is
unbelievable.
When
you
come
to
Fort
Campbell,
you
are
filled
with
such
patriotic.
Pride
I
mean
it's
overwhelming,
and
it's
amazing,
if
you
ever,
if
you
have
not
been
to
Fort
Campbell
and
you
ever
want
to
come,
I
welcome
you.
We
were
happy,
we
will
be
happy
to
give
you
a
tour
and
show
you
around.
Maybe
let
you
Rappel
off
the
wall
or
something
shoot
some
guns,
but
it's
always
a
good
time.
L
A
Well,
we
do
have
just
so
far
one
question
representative,
Hart.
M
Both
of
you
have
touched
on
the
the
need
for
Barracks
renovation
and
housing.
I
I'm,
aware
that
Senator
McConnell
is
able
to
secure
about
I,
don't
know
73
million
for
Barracks
renovation,
but
I
was
also
told
that
you
are
unable
to
utilize
the
funds,
because
you
were
having
issues
with
getting
contractors
in
there
to
be
able
to
complete
the
time
or
complete
the
construction
in
a
lot
of
time.
Is
there
anything
like
red
tape
or
anything
that
where
the
state
could
have
maybe
helped
with
that
or
could
help
with
that?
M
Because
listening
to
your
presentation,
I
realized
and
then
instant
I
mean
for
Camel,
like
every
other
small
community
in
the
state.
Housing
is
a
big
issue.
If
there's,
if
there's
a
ways
that,
if
there's
some
truth
in
in
this,
maybe
Enlighten
us
and
and
make
some
suggestions
of
how
we
can
maybe
help
you
all
so
this.
So
if
this
has
happened,
it
don't
happen
to
you
in
the
future.
L
So
you
can
touch
on
if
you
want
to,
but
I
will
say
that
it
really
came
down
to
some
language
in.
L
We
are
I,
think
the
leader
is
going
to
introduce-
or
at
least
there's
efforts
for
both
sides
of
the
state
at
the
federal
level
to
reintroduce
and
try
to
obtain
funding
again
so
that
it
is
used
specifically
at
Fort,
Campbell
and
so
there's
just
when
you're
again
dealing
with
a
lot
of
different
entities,
Federal
entities
and
and
army
entities-
it's
just
making
sure
that
some
of
the
sometimes
it's
even
just
that
you
all
know
this.
The
slightest
word
can
make
a
big
difference.
L
So
we
are
working
towards
that
again.
We
greatly
appreciate
that
offer
and
assistance
and
may
take
you
up
on
that.
Should
we
need
that
at
some
point
so,
but
right
now,
it's
just
a
matter
of
I
think
some
language
being
reintroduced
to
specify
for
Campbell
all.
N
Thanks
Kelly
I
appreciate
the
presentation.
I
share
that
feeling.
I
do
have
a
question,
but
I
wanted
to
say
that
feeling
is
very
profound.
When
you're
on
post
I
don't
think
about
it
as
much
I
see
the
aircraft
flying
they
still,
they
occasionally
make
their
way
all
the
way
to
North
Christian
but
yeah.
You
know
life
goes
on
and
we
all
have
our
jobs.
Then
you
get
on
post
and
it's
a
palpable
tangible
feeling
of
the
of
the
honor
and
the
service
of
every
single
human
being
around
you.
N
It
is
a
stunning
feeling
and
I
feel
that
every
time
I
approach
the
installation
much
less
and
privileged
to
be
on
it.
So
I'm
I'm
I,
wanted
to
share
that
and
for
those
of
you
that
haven't
had
a
chance
to
be
on
post
I
extend
the
same
invitation.
I
know
that
they
would
welcome
you,
we've
obviously
here's
my
question:
we
we
just
passed
this
year.
The
bill
I,
believe
it's
house
bill,
8.,
that's
moving
us
towards
Tennessee's,
wonderful
income
tax
non-existence.
N
Are
you
all
messaging
that
and
letting
people
know
that,
when
you're
working
with
those
three
to
five
hundred
300
to
500
people
that
are
leaving
the
service,
most
of
whom
are
still
going
to
Tennessee
and
I've
SP
I've
been
on
post
recently
and
every
single
person
I
talk
to
I
fussed
at
them?
I
gave
him
a
hard
time.
They
love
Kentucky,
they
love
coming
Hoptown,
they
love
coming
to
Oak
Grove.
They
love
shopping
in
Kentucky.
They
love
doing
everything
in
Kentucky,
their
kids
go
to
school
in
Kentucky,
but
boy.
N
L
Yes,
so
there
is
between,
you
know
our
organization
and
several
others
such
as
the
you
know:
the
chambers
military
Affairs
committee.
There
is
messaging
going
out,
we
talked
about
it
at
the
last
Mac
meeting
and
so
that's
getting
out
there.
You
know
to
to
many
of
them.
It
still
resonates
like
that's
great,
let's
get
there
so
so
we
still
have
a
ways
to
go
and-
and
it's
folks
you
know
right
now-
we
have
so
Colonel
Jordan's
counterpart
sergeant
major
Harbor
lives
in
Kentucky,
three
garrisons
before
Colonel
Jordan.
L
He
lived
in
Kentucky,
his
wife
worked
in
Kentucky,
his
child
worked
in
Kentucky,
but
when
he
retired
they
moved
across
the
state
line,
because
then
you're
not
only
looking
at
the
pension
being
taxed,
but
they're
they're,
young
they're,
so
young
folks,
when
they
get
out
they're
going
to
go
into
a
civilian
sector,
so
that
job
and
then
possibly
their
their
spouse's
job.
So
that's
you
know,
kind
of
triple
whammy
right
there
and
so
oftentimes
they'll.
Just
you
know
it's
a
state
line.
L
They'll
just
make
that
move
right
over,
but
we
we
are,
we
are
putting
the
messaging
out
there.
We
appreciate
on
the
legislature
moving
in
the
right
direction.
That's
the
right
thing
to
do.
We
do
want
to
be
competitive
in
retaining
that
Talent.
So
we
are,
we
are
putting
it
out
there
and
and
letting
folks
know
as
much
as
possible
that
we
are
moving
in
the
right
direction,
but
I
just
don't
know
that
it's
fast
enough
for
many
of
the
ones
looking
to
get
out.
L
Thank
you
for
your
efforts.
We
really
do
appreciate.
This
committee
has
always
been
so
supportive
of
that
effort
and
help
push
that
through.
So
again,
thank
you
to
all
of
you
who
have
supported
that
along
the
way.
K
K
As
a
you
know,
Uniform
service,
member,
obviously
the
Army-
we
can't
push
our
soldiers
towards
one
way
or
another.
We
can
help
them
get
educated,
but
what
we
really
can
do
is
lean
on
the
great
Community
Support
that
we
have
from
organizations
within
within
the
community.
I
mean
I've
served
all
over
the
south
southeastern
United
States.
My
kids
call
the
SEC
home
whenever
they
went
to
college.
K
Where
do
you
live
SEC
right
so,
but
really
Fort
Campbell
enjoys
that
that
with
our
communities,
more
than
any
other
installation
I've
been
in
are
are
served
at.
So
what
what
Kelly
just
said
about
them?
Educating
our
soldiers
I
think
that's
that's
key.
They
can.
They
can
get
out
in
front
of
these
these
things
where
the
Army
can't
show
favoritism.
K
So
what
we
really
appreciate
is
the
commitment
and
dedication
from
those
communities
to
to
teach
our
soldiers
educate
our
soldiers
and
make
sure
that
they're
they're
getting
the
best
bang
for
their
buck
and
and
setting
their
families
up
for
success,
and
you
just
don't
see
that
at
other
installations,
so.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Last
figures,
I
saw
I
think
it
comes
at
a
cost
at
about
nine
million
dollars
for
the
state,
and
that's
that's
not
a
lot
for
the
for
the
amount
of
publicity
that
we
would
get.
If
we
can
do
that,
so
I'll
keep
pushing
it.
I'm
gonna
follow
it
again,
so
we'll
go
from
there.
I
got
one
more
question
from
Center
Higdon
and
then
we're
gonna
have
to
move
on
to
the
next
speaker.
O
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
and
Kelly
I
had
a
question
for
you
mentioned
education
and
and
on
the
Colonel's
presentation
on
page
six,
it
talks
about
the
population
and
27
percent
of
Clarksville
Montgomery
County
students
are
military,
dependents,
I
guess
it's
27
percent
of
their
students
and
then
in
Kentucky
Christian
County
students.
Only
six
percent
or
483
is
that
a
geographic
issue
or
a
income
tax
housing
issue
or
or
is
it
an
education
issue.
L
So,
a
little
bit
of
all
three
a
lot
of
times.
What
we've
been
you
know
combating
over
the
years
is
a
lot
of
times
what
families
are
doing
when
they're
choosing
to
move
to
a
region
is
there's
just
getting
on
an
app,
and
when
you
know
years
ago
we
worked
with
Zillow
to
correct
data
because
they
had
outdated,
outdated
data
about
our
school
systems
and
so
a
lot
of
times
they're
just
getting
on
an
app,
and
you
know
it
kind
of
grades
them
our
rates
to
schools
of
where
they
want
to
go.
L
So
they
do
that
is
taking
into
consideration.
They
do
look
at
the
school
systems
in
the
region
and
and
how
they
compare
to
each
other.
The
other
piece,
the
housing
for
years,
I,
would
say,
income
tax
was
number
one.
Housing
I
think
has
absolutely
moved
to
number
one.
We
are.
We
are
in
desperate
need
of
housing
in
and
new
homes
in
our
region.
L
If
you
go
just
across
the
state
line,
You'll
see
developments
everywhere,
so
we
really
I
think
that
has
become
the
number
one
thing
that
people
and
families
you
may
can
can
add
on
to
what
you
see,
but
from
the
folks
I
talked
to
that's
really
you're,
just
seeing
the
growth
push
so
fast
from
the
south,
and
so
there's
an
opportunity
there.
If
we
can
get
that
right
because
their
schools
there's,
you
know
comparable
schools
right
across
this
State
Line,
it's
just
a
matter
of
they've,
got
the
I-24
Corridor
all
the
way
down
to
Nashville.
L
So
we
need
to
build.
You
know
that
up
because
we've
got
some
great
schools
and
we
have
a
new
superintendent
this
year,
who
is
a
former
101st
Aviator
and
he's
doing
some
great
things
and
making
some
great
changes
so
I
think
combining
those
things
together.
We've
just
got
a
those
are
the
barriers
that
we
we
get
after
all
the
time
simultaneously,
we'll
we'll
push
that
growth.
K
No
I
would
say
I
think
Kelly
hit
the
nail
on
the
head,
and
you
know
the
map
that
Kelly
showed
a
minute
ago
is
extremely
telling
and
I
have
I
had
not
seen
that
analogy,
but
that
that
is
is
very
true,
but
we
we're
developing
a
really
good
relationship
with
the
Christian
County
Schools
I
know
they're
they're
doing
a
lot
of
work
on
the
new
high
school
up.
K
There
we've
actually
began
partnering
with
them
of
how
we
can
you
know,
use
some
of
those
technical,
some
of
the
technical
education
and
things
like
that.
That's
going
to
be
part
of
that
High
School
for
for
soldiers,
for
soldiers,
families
and
and
create
those
opportunities.
So
a
little
bit
of
it
is
is
you
know
which
comes
first,
chicken
or
the
egg,
and
but
I
think
Kelly
eloquently
put
that
that
that
you
know
it's
kind
of
all.
K
All
three
I
can't
get
involved
in
the
in
some
of
those
things,
but
I
can
share
with
you
some
personal
experience
and
and
we're
doing
better
at
educating
folks
now,
but
whenever
I
first
came
to
Fort
Campbell
in
2004
straight
out
of
the
Special
Forces
course
at
Fort,
Bragg
I
I
bought
a
home
at
Exit
11
in
Clarksville,
because
everybody
told
me
no
income
tax,
no
income
tax.
That's
my
personal
story
at
that
point.
I
did
not
know
that
even
on
active
duty
you
on
active
duty.
K
Now
we
don't
soldiers,
don't
pay
income
tax
in
Kentucky
that
that
was
not
part
of
the
education
process
that
I
had
coming
in
18
years
ago.
So
I
think
we
are
getting
better,
but
that's
just
you
know
sample
size
of
one.
But
my
personal
experience
of
why
why
we
chose
where
we
did
and
I
think
a
lot
of
soldiers.
They
don't
look
at
the
the
whole
picture,
especially
the
young
ones.
K
They
look
at
what's
coming
out
every
month,
not
you
know
how
much
property
tax,
I'm
gonna,
not
pay
or
pay
Vice,
either
side
of
the
state
line.
They're
they're,
literally
looking
at
the
bottom
line.
That's
on
there
what
we
call
the
Les
they're
leaving
earnings
statement
and
what
what
is
is
left
in
there
and
then
what
is
subtracted
at
the
end
of
the
month.
C
A
All
right
thank
y'all,
both
so
much
for
being
here
and
Colonel
O'brien
and
Colonel
Jordan.
These
two
gentlemen
are
the
are
basically
the
mayors
of
the
the
installations
there
and
we
appreciate
what
you
do
you
you
get
all
the
headaches
from
the
generals.
I'm
sure.
So
we
appreciate
it
we're
losing
a
few
members
just
for
the
fact
that
we
have
Health
and
Welfare
that
starts
at
11
o'clock,
so
I
believe
we're
going
to
retain
a
quorum.
But
we
look
like
we're
on
time,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
bring
up
a
general.
A
No,
no
stranger
to
this
committee.
General
Bullard
come
on
up
and
do
you
got
some
guests
and
and
please
you
know
the
routine,
introduce
yourselves
and
make
sure
those
green
lights
are
on
and
and
we'll
just
blend
right
on
into
Eric
Sherman
too
afterwards,
exactly.
H
Thank
you,
chair
Thomas
and
members
of
the
committee.
It's
always
a
pleasure
to
talk
to
you
and
Eric
and
I
are
going
to
combine
our
presentation
to
help
you
out
a
little
bit.
We
work
very
closely
together.
H
We
you
know,
Eric
is
a
defense,
State
liaison
office,
I,
actually
chair
or
co-chair
the
association,
defense,
Community,
State
advisors,
Council,
which
is
Micah
my
counterparts
from
all
50
states,
so
we
work
very
closely
together,
not
just
for
Kentucky
but
for
National
issues
as
well
and
we'll
be
meeting
in
Phoenix
Arizona
with
Department
of
Defense
next
week,
as
part
of
that
and
Dizzle
will
be
part
of
that
process
as
well.
H
Gentlemen,
could
you
introduce
yourselves,
please,
oh
by
the
way
I'm
Brigadier
General
Steve
Bullard
executive
director
of
Kentucky
National
Guard
I
mean
Kentucky
Commission
on
Military
Affairs,
Kentucky,
National,
Guard,
retired.
B
Good
morning,
I
am
Kyle
hurwitz
I
am
the
director
of
the
center
for
military
connected
students
at
the
University
of
Louisville
and
retired
Air
Force,
so
fascinating
conversations.
Thank
you.
P
A
H
Talk
real,
quick
and
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Kyle
and
then
to
Eric.
But
first
off,
could
you
created
the
Kentucky
Commission
on
Military
Affairs
in
1995
to
be
your
BRAC
watchdog-based,
realignment
and
closing,
which
has
happened
several
times
it
had
adverse
effects
on
many
States,
including
Kentucky.
We
continue
to
serve
in
that
role.
We
monitor
strengths
weaknesses.
This
is
opportunities
and
threats
and
we're
very
proud
to
do
that.
H
The
legislature
was
very
far-sighted
in
doing
this
and
has
done
a
tremendous
job
supporting
Kentucky
and
because
of
that
Kentucky
plays
way
above
its
weight
in
the
military.
Community
23
billion
dollars
of
DOD
money
comes
into
Kentucky
for
the
installations
in
the
defense,
industry
and
94
percent
of
that
the
military
part
of
that
money
is
Army
related,
so
we're
very
much
an
army
State
as
you've
just
seen
from
the
outstanding
presentations
from
Fort
Campbell
and
for
Knox.
We
have
two
of
the
Army's
Premier
installations
and
we
also
have
a
jewel
in
blue
grass.
H
Army
Depot
in
Richmond,
and
one
of
the
greatest
things
we
have
done
is
create
the
community
advocacy
groups
of
the
Campbell,
strong
defense,
Alliance
and
Knox
Regional
development
alliances
which
are
considered
best
practices
by
the
Army
and
advocating
for
their
installations.
We
also
are
working
very
closely
with
the
Bluegrass
area,
development
District
in
Richmond
and
Craig
Williams
and
his
group
to
advocate
for
Bluegrass
Army
Depot,
and
they
they
are
the
logistics
hub
for
all
installations
in
the
Army
east
of
the
Mississippi
River
and
basically
are
their
wartime
Focus.
So
we
are
in
great
shape.
H
H
Where
we
stand
in
Kentucky,
the
and
one
of
the
successes
mentioned
earlier
today-
was
military
child
care
in
your
neighborhood
plus,
initiate
it
through
the
dizzlo
defense
State
liaison
office,
and
that
is
a
new
program,
we're
going
to
roll
it
out
in
Kentucky
on
12
December,
and
that's
going
to
be
a
1500
up
to
1500
stipend
to
all
military
families,
to
provide
child
care.
H
You
know
so
in
order
to
facilitate
their
ability
for
the
families,
to
support
being
in
the
military
and
being
retained
in
the
military
and
we're
one
of
the
first
states
to
implement
that
it
was
mentioned.
There
are
nine
states
that
are
doing
it,
but
we're
all
in
various
phases
of
implementation,
and
we
are
going
to
go
hot
on
12
December
and
we're
very,
very
proud
of
that.
A
wonderful
thing,
one
of
the
great
opportunities
we've
had
some
successes.
H
In
fact,
I
just
came
back
from
the
military
Interstate
children's
compact
Commission
conference
in
Baton
Rouge
Louisiana,
the
state
of
Mississippi.
My
counterpart
asked
me
to
swing
by
and
visit
him
because
they're
looking
to
get
KC
46
aircraft
for
the
the
Mississippi
Air
National
Guard.
They
want
to
know
how
we
successfully
got
c-130js
in
Kentucky
and
kind
of
borrow
off
our
template,
so
I
met
with
them.
That's
a
tremendous
opportunity
there
and
we're
hoping
we
also
got
fifth
Corps.
H
You
know
a
couple
years
back
for
Fort
Knox
and
we're
both
Fort
Campbell
and
Fort.
Knox
are
finalists
for
what
we
call
a
multi-domain
Task
Force
combat
mission
of
3
500
soldiers
that
would
focus
on
an
area
of
the
world.
Probably
in
our
case
it
would
be
either
Europe
or
Antarctica,
and
we're
very
optimistic
that
that
either
Fort
Campbell
or
Fort
Knox
can
win
that
competition
would
be
nice
if
both
would
the-
and
they
were
a
couple
years
out
from
that
decision,
but
we're
working
in
that
direction.
H
So
we
do
have
some
opportunities
for
Success.
Fort
Knox
is
ideally
positioned.
They
lost
their
combat
elements,
but
they
have
of
10
state-of-the-art
ranges
at
Fort
Knox.
It
would
be
tremendous
for
supporting
a
multi-domain
task
force
Mission
and
give
us
a
real
leg
up
yeah.
Besides
the
fact,
we
have
a
lot
of
expandable
acreage
there.
Tremendous
I
would
like
to
just
real
quickly
touch
on
our
legislative
agenda
and
we've
been
working
very
closely
with
representative
Mark
Hart
and
brief.
H
The
licensing
and
occupations
committee
last
month
on
the
dod
right
now
is
eight
priority:
occupational
licensing
compacts.
We
are
Kentucky's
members
of
seven
of
those
eight
of
those
eight
compacts,
which
is
a
tremendous
record.
The
only
one
we're
not
a
member
of
yet
is
the
EMS
Compact
and
we're
working
to
fix
that
we're
working
very
closely
with
the
Kentucky
Board
of
Emergency
Medical
Services,
the
community
groups.
H
There
were
some
misconceptions
about
it
that
had
prevented
passage
and
we're
we're
in
the
process
of
getting
that
all
cleared
up
and
we've
got
it
schicklevised,
so
hopefully
we'll
be
ready
to
go.
The
second
one
is
passage
of
the
real
estate
disclosure
requirement
for
our
purchasing
property
and
the
proximity
of
Fort
Knox
and
Fort
Campbell.
We
went
the
bill
that
representative
Tate
submitted
last
year.
We
we
realized
was
too
much
because
we
didn't
identify
what
a
military
property
is
and
it
would
have
applied
to
armories.
H
You
know
induction
places,
National
Guards,
art,
centers
and
training
sites.
We
wanted
it
only
to
apply
to
Fort,
Campbell
and
Fort
Knox
in
order
to
protect
the
training
there.
So
we're
working
very
closely
with
the
Kentucky
real
estate
Authority
and
the
Real
Estate
Commission
I'll
be
a
meeting
with
the
Real
Estate
Commission
November
17th
to
brief
them
in
great
detail
on
this.
Our
goal
is
to
get
a
regulatory
solution
to
this,
because
it'll
just
affect
those
communities
right
outside
Knox
and
Campbell,
and
we're
hoping
we're
optimistic.
H
H
And
but
there
was
a
mistake
in
the
compact
where
Federal
section
of
federal
law
was
listed
as
a
section,
and
it's
really
a
chapter
and
that's
kind
of
problematic
when
you're
going
before
a
judge,
so
we're
going
to
get
those
two
citations
fixed,
it
has
to
be
through
legislation
and
representative
Thomas
has
done
the
bill
draft
for
that,
so
you'll
be
seeing
that
and
then
the
second
one
where
we
voted
last
week
is
four
years
ago
Department
of
Defense
asked
us
to
in
the
military
Interstate
children's
compact
commission
to
include
all
members
of
the
garden
Reserve,
because
right
now
the
compact,
which
protects
the
ability
of
families
to
transfer
from
state
to
state
and
and
allow
their
children
the
best
possible
advantages
for
getting
into
a
new
school
district
only
applies
to
the
full-time
military,
active
duty
and
full-time
Garden
Reserve.
H
There
are
cases
where
it
can
apply
to
a
part-timer
in
the
garden
reserve,
for
example,
if
a
part
you
live
in
Indiana
and
you're
in
a
Kentucky
guard,
and
you
decide
to
move
into
Kentucky
our
best
case
scenario
or
Tennessee
coming
up.
It
could
apply
then,
and-
and
we
have
had
instances
where
it
has
so-
what
we
voted
on
was.
H
There
are
two
options:
one
was
open
up
the
Compact
and
actually
re-rework
it
to
do
this,
but
that
would
require
all
50
states
in
DC
to
agree
and
that
which
is
a
very
difficult
thing
to
do,
and
as
only
six
compacts
have
done,
that
have
been
able
to
successfully
get
every
state
on
board.
The
other
option,
which
I
advocated
and
one
last
week
is,
have
every
state
do
it
individually?
We
do
that
in
Kentucky.
Already
we
we
added
outside
the
compact
is
an
additional
statute.
H
You
protects
you
for
DOD
civilians
that
come
into
Kentucky,
and
we
did
that
because
of
Fort
Knox
and
army
Human
Resources
command
and
Recruiting
Command
the.
So
we
can
do
exactly
the
same
thing
with
the
garden
Reserve.
There's
no
cost
to
doing
this.
We
would
help
them
anyway,
and
the
cases
are
very,
very
rare.
So
we
would
like
Kentucky
to
take
the
lead
on
this
and
be
the
first
state
to
do
it.
Representative,
Myron
Dawson
is
going
to
do
the
bill
draft
and
be
and
sponsor
that.
So
that
is
our
legislative
agenda.
H
We
can
take
questions
afterwards
at
this
point
last
session,
the
legislature
and
the
governor
both
endorse
providing
the
University
of
Louisville
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
the
budget
to
create
their
Center
for
military
connected
students
for
very,
very
powerful
reasons.
So
you
should
know
what
you're
getting
for
your
money.
For
that
reason,
we
invited
University
of
Louisville
to
join
us
today,
so
Kyle.
If
you
could
take
on
that.
B
Oh
thank
you
on
behalf
of
interim
president
Gonzalez.
It's
my
pleasure
to
be
here
this
morning
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
not
just
the
physical
space
that
the
money
you
kindly
gave
us
is
allowing
us
to
create,
but
also
a
little
bit
about
our
military
connection
of
population
in
general.
Next
slide,
please!
B
So!
Here's
the
agenda,
I
thought
it'd,
be
important
to
Define
military
connected
and
what
constitutes
military
connected.
To
be
honest,
some
of
it
goes
to
what
general
Buller
just
referred
to
I'm,
going
to
give
you
a
little
bit
about
demographics
of
our
military
connected
students.
Talk
about
some
things
our
institution
is
proud
of.
When
it
comes
to
military
connected
student
characteristics,
then
I'll
get
into
why
the
center
and
then
a
little
bit
about
who
our
military
connected
students.
So
you
can.
Those
stories
can
resonate,
you'll,
see
faces
and
names.
So
next
slide,
please.
B
So
a
lot
of
Institutions
use
the
term
Center
for
military
or
Center
for
veterans.
We
previously
had
the
office
of
military
and
Veterans
unit
Services.
However,
none
of
those
terms
accurately
capture
the
entire
population
and
so
the
term
military
connected
as
you
can
see
on
that
side
captures
six
distinct
populations,
although
in
some
cases
you
could
actually
fall
into
multiple
populations.
So
if
you're,
a
ROTC
Cadet,
for
instance,
who
was
part
of
service
you're,
also
a
veteran,
but
those
are
the
categories.
I
won't
read
them
to
you.
B
Veteran
refers
to
somebody
whose
term
of
service
or
commitment
enlistment
is
is
over
right,
whether
that
be
someone
like
me,
20
years
to
retire
or
a
four-year-old
who,
if
you
separate
after
four
years,
right
by
by
higher
education
definition,
that
is
the
veteran
student.
So
next
slide,
please
so
about
2
000
of
our
students
fall
into
this
military-connected
category,
and
that
is
about
nine
percent
of
our
total
enrollment,
which
we're
quite
proud
of
we're,
also
quite
proud
that
that
constitutes
about
20
percent
of
students
enrolled
in
our
fully
online
programs
and
I'm.
B
Only
obviously
here
to
talk
about
uofl
I'll,
be
happy
to
answer
your
questions
as
to
how
that
Stacks
up
to
other
institutions,
but
what
we
like
to
do
at
the
University
of
Louisville
is
compare
apples
to
apples
as
a
major
research
institution
like
ourselves.
If
you
look
at
other
major
research
institutions,
nine
percent
is
Far
and
Away
a
higher
percent
by
almost
double
in
some
cases.
Triple
and
I'll.
B
Tell
you
why
that
is
here
in
a
couple
slides
next
slide,
please
so
I'm
military
excuse
me
distinguished
characteristics,
we're
very,
very
proud
to
have
been
the
military,
friendly
gold
institution,
as
well
as
a
military,
friendly
spouse
institution
or
designated,
and
you
can
see
on
there.
Over
1800
institutions
participate
in
the
survey
only
10,
so
half
of
a
percent
r1s
earned
gold
designations
and
only
one
percent
earned
military
friendly
spouse
designations,
and
you
can
see
they're
on
the
slide.
Gold
institutions
are
selected
for
leading
practices,
outcomes
and
effective
programs.
B
We're
also
proud
to
have
been
named
military
Times
best
for
vets
college
for
2022,
ranked
in
the
top
18
percent
of
participating,
Institutions
and,
as
I
said
earlier,
Apples
to
Apples.
Only
four
other
institutions
in
the
ACC
made
the
list
and
only
one
Syracuse
University
was
ranked
above
us,
and
you
see
there
what
the
rubrics
was
for
for
earning
that
designation
next
slide.
Please
just
a
couple
things
about
what
we'd
like
to
talk
about.
B
B
It
takes
a
cohort
of
between
25
and
40
company
grade
officers
and
field
grade
officers,
so
Captain's
Majors,
Lieutenant,
Colonels
senior,
non-commissioned
officers
and
Department
of
the
army,
civilians
and
for
a
year
they
come
to
seminars
at
the
University
one
per
month
and
those
seminars
pair
an
academic
or
industry
leader
along
with
a
senior
Army
leader.
So
we
just
kicked
off
for
this
Academic
Year
and
the
speaker.
The
key,
the
Army
speaker
was
the
G1
of
the
army,
the
person
in
charge
of
personnel
and
human
resources
for
the
entire
Army.
B
The
uofl
speaker
was
I,
think
it
was
a
CEO.
It
was
the
CEO
of
yum
or
something
like
that.
I
can't
remember,
but
that's
the
kind
of
thing
we
do
so
that
the
attendees
can
hear
Human
Resources,
that
war
for
talent,
how
the
compare
and
contrast
piece,
because
they
get
a
lot
from
that
we're
the
only
institution
in
the
nation
to
host
the
cadet
commands,
Master
educator
course
and
in
a
nutshell,
that
is
a
program
where
Army
ROTC
Cadre
get
taught
how
to
teach
right.
B
They
have
qual
extensive
qualifications
as
soldiers,
but
most
of
them
never
taught.
So
this
is
a
graduate
program
that
teaches
them
the
Art
and
Science
of
teaching
one
one
of
only
four
institutions
in
the
Midwest
and
I
have
to
share
a
funny
story.
I
originally
had
in
parenthesis,
including
the
Commonwealth
of
Kentucky,
because
I've
been
told
that
some
people
don't
consider
Kentucky
to
be
in
the
midwest,
so
as
a
disclaimer
just
just
want
to
throw
out
there
to
host
army
war.
B
College
fellow
one
of
only
three
academic
institutions
in
the
nation
to
host
the
Army
strategic
boarding
seminar
in
our
McConnell
Center,
and
that
is
I,
won't
give
you
the
full
details.
But
that
is
a
seminar
where
40
soldiers
come
to
uofl
for
a
month
in
the
fall
and
they
get
instruction
in
the
Constitution
constitutional
law.
B
The
oath
of
office
things
that
they're
not
really
thinking
about,
are
exposed
to
in
a
day-to-day
role,
and
they
go
to
DC
for
a
week
and
the
last
two
things
I
want
to
share
with
you
are
things
we're
very,
very
proud
of?
We
have
more
students
using
military
tuition,
assistance
than
the
rest
of
the
AC
institutions
and
the
ACC
combined
14
other
institutions.
We
have
almost
as
many
students
using
military
ta
as
the
other
Kentucky
publics
combined,
and
you
might
be
thinking
well.
B
Why
is
that
my
personal
opinion,
based
on
a
lot
of
research
and
time
in
the
job
we
we
offer
250
per
credit
hour
at
the
undergraduate
rate
and
The
Graduate
undergraduate
level
and
graduate
level
to
active
duty
and
qualifying
members
of
the
garden
reserve
and
as
far
as
I
can
tell
there's
not
another
R1
major
research
institution
that
offers
graduate
degrees
for
250
per
credit
hour
and
250
per
credit
hour
is
what
the
service
number
gets
reimbursed
for
under
the
military
tuition
assistance
program.
B
B
B
We
have
a
salute
to
service
program
and
a
student
veteran
Association
chapter,
which
is
pretty
common,
but
one
of
the
things
we
do
is
we
we
recognize
and
reach
out
to
and
engage
veteran
staff
and
faculty
about
10
percent
of
our
staff
and
faculty
self-identify
as
veterans
and
so
we're
trying
to
give
them
a
sense
of
humidity
and
a
place
to
connect,
because
that's
one
of
the
things
that
veterans
tend
to
look
for,
and
we
also
have
a
new
scholarship
salute
to
service
scholarship
for
veteran
independent
students
on
a
very,
very
pleased
to
partner
with
ups
and
we're
actually
awarding
two
five
thousand
dollar
scholarships
at
our
game.
B
Football
game
on
Saturday,
November
5th,
then
we'll
do
two:
five
thousand
dollar
Scholarships
in
the
spring
and
two
2500
Scholarships
in
the
summer
and
that's
kind
of
how
we'll
do
it.
So
the
the
veterans
Independents
don't
qualify
for
the
250
rate
and
so
we're
trying
to
find
a
way
to
make
higher
education
more
affordable
for
them.
Next
slide,
please
so
our
Center
finally
created
in
July
2002.
It
was
created
out
of
Hyde,
meaning
no
growth.
B
B
Brodsky
Hall
is
a
5
000
square
foot,
building
in
the
heart
of
our
Belmont
campus,
and
you
can
see
there
it's
going
to
have
office
space
for
full-time
staff,
flexible
office
space,
so
what
we
will
do
is,
instead
of
the
military
connected
student
having
to
go
to
the
Bursar
having
to
go
to
the
registrar
having
to
go
to
financial
aid.
B
We
will
bring
those
functional
areas
to
our
Center
and
we'll
have
Hotel
workspace
where
they
can
serve
the
students,
we'll
also
create
a
student
lounge
specifically
for
these
students
study
space,
a
kitchen
Wellness,
slash
lactation,
room,
which
is
one
of
the
things
this
you
need
to
do
for
these
students
we
are
scheduled
start
Renovations
in
January
and
occupancy
in
July
2023.
Next
slide,
please,
as
I
said,
brotsky
Hall
on
your
left
and
in
the
center
are
are
The
Architects
renderings
of
what
the
space
will.
B
Probably
look
like
the
one
in
the
middle
of
your
screen.
Is
the
quiet
study
room
looking
to
the
front
door,
the
one
on
the
bottom
right
is
from
the
front
door
looking
towards
the
back.
So
the
first
floor
is
going
to
be
the
student
space.
The
second
floor
of
the
staff
space
and
this
basement
we're
not
able
to
touch,
but
we
do
have
future
plans
for
that
next
slide,
please!
B
So,
whoever
who
are
our
military
connected
students
they're
everyone
they
come
from
all
over.
You
see
Jason
Knuckles,
the
Marine
Corps
veteran
on
the
left.
He
was
a
musician
in
the
Marine
Corps
he's
now
a
performance
Jazz
major
and
hopes
to
get
a
PhD
in
in
music.
In
the
middle
of
your
screen,
you
see
a
coast
guard
reservist,
who
is
a
master
of
science
and
social
work.
Student
Andrea
as
a
coast
guard
reservist,
has
deployed
around
the
United
States
to
national
disasters,
to
deep
Horizon
spills
done
law
enforcement.
B
So
it's
pretty
broad
a
set
of
things.
She's
done
next
slide.
Please
bottom
left
Jacob
Jones
a
Navy
veteran.
He
was
electrical.
He
was
a
Submariner
nuclear
Submariner
he's
now
a
Bachelor
of
Science
and
electrical
engineering,
major
and
a
model
student
citizen.
According
to
the
faculty
and
staff.
The
picture
on
the
right
is
one
of
my
favorites,
an
active
duty
space,
Force
officer
stationed
in
Hawaii.
He
is
an
online
student
or
a
master
of
science.
Human
resources
and
organizational
development
next
slide.
B
Major
Sean
was
an
honorary
Captain
for
one
of
our
home
football
games
last
year
brought
his
father,
who
was
also
an
Air
Force
veteran
and
his
wife
and
three
children
born
and
raised
in
Louisville
and
as
absolutely
over
the
moon
to
be
a
uofl
student
he's
actually
now
graduated
but,
as
I
said,
Air
Force
prayer
rescue
men,
one
of
the
toughest
career
fields,
to
get
into
on
your
right.
You
see
Christian
loose
distinguished
military
graduate
from
the
Army
ROTC
program
and
prior
service
Army.
B
So
that
was
my
presentation
in
closing
again
on
behalf
of
the
entire
institution
and
interim
president
Gonzales,
we
are
so
grateful
to
this
body
and
the
governor
for
providing
us
the
funds
to
renovate
our
center.
It's
going
to
enable
us
to
serve
these
students
in
a
much
more
streamlined,
better,
more
engaged
manner,
which
will
drive
our
outcome
of
getting
them
transitioning
from
higher
education
to
careers,
hopefully
in
the
state
of
Kentucky
and
then
driving
that
engine
through
you
know
all
the
things
you're
going
to
do
for
us.
Thank
you.
H
P
P
We
operate
under
the
direction
of
the
under
secretary
of
defense
for
personnel
and
Readiness
and
within
the
office
of
the
Deputy
assistant
secretary
of
defense
for
military
community
and
family
policy.
Thank
you
for
inviting
the
Department
of
Defense
to
discuss
how
the
Emergency
Medical
Services
interstate
compact
supports
the
military
community.
P
So
if
I
may
just
take
two
minutes,
the
Kentucky
General
Assembly
has
already
reviewed
and
passed
seven
professional
licensure
interstate
compacts
that
support
the
military
Community.
As
the
general
mentioned,
your
colleagues
are
already
showing
interest
in
compact,
such
as
a
teacher
interstate
compact
that
are
nearly
ready
for
introduction.
By
now.
This
committee
recognizes
how
interstate
compacts
standardized
qualifications
for
nearly
standardized
qualifications
for
Interstate
transfer,
which
alleviates
confusion
for
military
spouses
transferring
between
member
states.
P
There
are
others
that
can
explain
the
EMS
Compact
and
how
it
works.
So,
at
this
point,
I
would
simply
like
to
reiterate
how
much
the
dod
appreciates
the
invitation
to
testify,
so
we
can
express
the
importance
of
these
professional
licensure
compacts
to
our
families.
More
importantly,
we
want
to
thank
representative
Hart
for
his
support
of
the
EMS
compact,
the
Kentucky
Commission
on
Military
Affairs,
for
their
partnership
and
thank
the
committee
for
your
time
and
attention
to
this
manner.
P
Although
some
states
such
as
Kentucky,
extend
an
extra
effort
to
help
military
spouses
with
the
employment
opportunities
military
families,
next
move
to
another
state
can
create
a
new
set
of
problems
since
procedures
are
inconsistent
from
state
to
state.
This
situation
is
alleviated
through
interstate
compacts.
H
Eric
did
join
us
again
in
September
for
our
detailed
testimony
to
licensing
and
occupations
and
we're
we
have
several
more
compacts.
We
hope
to
be
ready
for
the
2024
session,
including
the
national
teachers
compact,
with
Senator
Wilson
has
now
graciously
agreed
to
sponsor
and
we're
working
that
it
won't
be
ready
in
in
time
for
this
session.
I
don't
believe,
but
we
we
are
very
excited
about
the
ones
that
are
coming
up
and
then
my
last
remarks.
H
We've
had
three
exciting
things
happen
in
Kentucky,
the
EKU,
which
has
an
outstanding
veterans
program,
one
of
their
graduates.
James
Rainey,
just
got
selected
as
a
four-star
general,
a
commander
of
U.S
army,
Futures
command
he'll,
be
here
November
5th
for
their
Veterans
Day
weekend
and
what
an
honor
that
is
representative
Wesley
did
a
resolution
on
his
on
in
his
honor
and
very
proud
out
of
General
Rainey.
We
also
have
a
rear
ad.
A
new
rear,
Admiral,
lower
half
so
rear
upper
lower
half
is
a
one
star.
H
David
dutlinger,
who
works
in
he's
in
Lexington,
works
for
the
Bluegrass
area,
development
district
and
he
was
promoted
to
rear
Admiral
in
the
beginning
of
October
to
He
commands
the
Navy
Reserve
seventh
construction,
Battalion
out
of
Biloxi
Mississippi,
very
proud
to
have
him,
and
we
just
had
the
retirement
of
rare
Admiral,
rare
Admiral
upper
half
two
stars:
Gene
price,
an
attorney
for
frost,
Brown,
Todd
in
Louisville
and
general
price
is
a
I
mean
Admiral
price
is
a
great
friend
of
ours
and
he
ran
the
the
Navy
Reserve
cyber
program,
so
cyber
security.
H
A
Believe
we
do
have
right
now,
one
question:
this
will
leave
us
about
30
minutes
for
our
next
program
to
so
Senator
Higdon.
O
Thank
you,
gentlemen,
for
your
presentation
on
and
especially
on
the
compacts
and
I
know.
Kentucky
has
worked
very
hard
to
be
military
friendly
with
these
compacts
I
was
approached
by
another
for
another
compact.
That
Kentucky
is
looking
at
joining,
that's
mil,
that's
I
was
told,
was
military,
friendly
and
I
wanted
to
see
if
it
was
on
your
radar
screen?
Cosmetology?
O
A
All
righty
and
I
got
the
one
for
aprns.
If
you
could
just
talk
to
the
nurses
and
tell
me
when
to
run
it
so
I'll
make
sure
I
follow
it
again
this
year,
it'll
be
ready
too
so.
Gentlemen,
thank
you
all
so
much
for
being
here.
We
always
appreciate
it.
General
Bullard.
We
always
appreciate
hearing
from
you
and
and
Eric
glad
to
have
you
back
up
and
and
visiting
with
us
again
there.
So
all
right,
we
got
about
30,
more
minutes,
guys
I'd
love
for
you
all
to
stick
around.
A
This
is
really
an
important
topic.
I.
We
wanted
to
get
this
in
before
if
y'all
want
to
come
on
up
guys,
Mark
Hart
and
captain
hugsden
and
Lieutenant
Hargraves.
If
y'all
would.
This
is
so
pertinent
to
you
know,
tornadoes
in
the
west
and
floods
in
the
East.
So
this
this
presentation,
I
really
look
forward
and
and
that's
why
I
tried
to
push
it
and
Shuffle
around
things
to
get
them
on
the
agenda
today.
M
Right
Pleasures,
thank
you.
Mr
chairman
I,
also
want
to
mention
representative
Wheatley.
Is
the
primary
co-sponsor
and
working
with
us
on
this.
We
left
him
off
the
agenda,
so
I
wanted
to
give
him
a
shout
out,
but
with
me
today,
I
have
Captain
Ron
hoxton
and
Lieutenant
Hargraves,
the
Lexington
fire
department.
Both
are
two
of
the
leading
experts
in
urban
search
and
rescue
in
the
state
of
Kentucky.
M
Both
have
been,
and
are
members
of
the
Ohio
Task
Force
One
FEMA
use
our
team
and
just
to
give
you
a
brief
introduction
on
Lieutenant
Hargraves
has
stepped
back
from
that
when
he
assumed
the
role
as
executive
officer
of
Special
Operations
for
Lexington
fire
department.
However,
Captain
hoxton
is
currently
still
a
member
of
Ohio
Task,
Force
One,
and
just
to
give
you
an
example
of
his
experience
and
some
of
them
he's
had
a
lot
of
you
will
remember
the
the
condo
collapse
and
Surfside
Florida
a
year
or
so
ago.
M
Well,
Captain
hawkston
was
one
of
the
rescue
team
managers
on
that
incident.
So
with
that
I'm
going
to
let
representative
Wheatley
make
a
real
quick
statement
and
then
we're
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Captain
hogson
and
Lieutenant
Hargraves.
D
Thank
you,
representative
Hart
representative
buddy,
Wheatley,
65th,
District
I've
had
myself
quite
a
few
experiences
related
to
search
and
rescue
and
one
major
one
shortly
after
9
11
when
I
was
in
Incident
Commander
of
a
major
collapse
in
Covington,
and
the
first
thing
we
were
doing
is
we
were
preparing
for
that
collapse.
We
knew
it
was
going
to
happen.
D
It
was
a
1860s
building
which
had
a
odd
roof
structure
and
we
said,
is
there
a
use,
our
team
available,
and
you
know
this
was
shortly
after
9
11,
when
usar
teams
became
more
well
known
in
the
area
or
in
the
in
the
country,
and
we
did
not,
but
since
that
time
there's
been
development.
These
gentlemen
been
part
of
it
and
I
look
forward
to
being
a
part
of
this
team.
Thank
you.
Q
Good
morning,
like
we
mentioned
earlier,
my
name
is
Ryan
hoags
and
I'm,
a
captain
with
the
Lexington
fire
department,
just
a
little
bit
of
information
about
us
for
our
introductions,
some
of
our
experience
that
we've
had
over
the
years
I'm,
currently
a
30-year
member
of
the
Kentucky
fire
service
27,
almost
28
now
with
Lexington
fire
I've
been
17
years
with
Ohio
task
force,
one
which
is
a
FEMA
Urban
search
and
rescue
team
and
I
serve
as
a
task
force
leader
there
been
on
multiple
Statewide
and
deployments
throughout
the
throughout
the
nation.
Q
Also
most
recently
hurricane
Ian.
It
just
happened
last
month.
I
was
a
task
force
leader
and
brought
Ohio
Task
Force
One
from
from
Ohio
to
Florida
and
back.
We
did
10
days
of
work
down
there,
like
representative
Hart
mentioned
also
was
a
part
of
Surfside
the
collapse
most
recently
for
us
in
Kentucky
I
was
a
part
of
the
floodings
and
also
the
Mayfield
operations
night
manager
during
the
Mayfield
at
The
Candle
factory,
and
that's
me
I'm,
going
to
introduce
Lieutenant
Hargraves
and
he
can
speak.
R
Good
morning
my
name
is
Lieutenant
Doug
Hargraves
I'm,
the
executive
officer
of
special
operations
with
the
Lexington
fire
department.
A
little
bit
about
myself
is
30
years
of
fire
service
here
in
Kentucky,
18
of
those
years
was
Special
Operations,
mostly
with
Urban
search
and
rescue.
R
Also
I
was
a
member
of
Ohio
task
force
for
about
five
years
again,
I
stepped
back
to
take
a
different
roles
in
the
Lexington
fire
department.
Again,
multiple
National
and
Statewide
deployments,
some
of
those,
including
Hurricane
Irene,
the
Kano
Factory
Mayfield,
Kentucky,
Clay,
City,
flooding,
mudslide
collapse
in
Stanton,
Kentucky
and
then
also
just
recently.
R
Kentucky
excuse
me
East
Kentucky
flooding
also
during
East
Kentucky
flooding
I
was
a
Statewide
operations
manager
in
Hazard
starting
the
second
week,
and
just
this
past
year
presented
on
behalf
of
Kentucky
at
the
state
Urban
search
and
rescue
conference
in
South
Carolina.
Q
Foreign,
so
we're
going
to
continue
on
next
slide.
Please
we're
going
to
continue
on
and
go
with
what
is
urban
search
and
rescue
all
right,
an
urban
search
and
rescue
in
Kentucky
and
how
to
how
it
affects
us.
So
we're
going
to
see
these
next
few
topics
that
you
see
here
we're
going
to
see
in
the
next
few
slides
next
slide,
please
all
right.
So
what
is
urban
search
and
rescue
Urban
search
and
rescue
is
a
type
of
technical
rescue
operation
that
involves
a
highly
trained
and
organized
teams.
Q
These
teams
can
locate,
extricate
and
provide
initial
medical
stabilization
of
victims
trapped
in
an
urban
and
rural
area
once
described,
as
mainly
a
team
for
structural
classes
due
to
natural
disasters.
War,
terrorism
or
accidents
teams
today
are
used
in
all
types
of
disasters,
they're
known
as
an
organized
known
and
organized
as
all
Team,
all
hazards
team
that
follow
FEMA
guidelines.
Q
With
this,
why
do
we
call
it
Urban
versus
rural
or
whatever,
right?
The
reason,
the
term
Urban
search
and
rescue
comes
in?
Is
it's
a
FEMA
acronym?
It's
a
FEMA,
recognized
area,
so
it
it
means
basically
not
Wilderness.
It
means
anything
but
Wilderness
rescue,
okay.
So
that's
what
we're
looking
through
there.
So
it's
not
just
for
cities
or
small
towns
or
Big
Towns.
It's
it's
for
the
urban
setting,
not
the
Wilderness
setting
and
that's
what
we
want
to
make
sure
when
we
hear
Urban,
search
and
rescue
that
that's
what
we're
talking
about.
Q
R
So
what
are
the
capabilities?
Excuse
me,
what
are
the
capabilities
of
a
task
force?
One
is
physical
search
and
rescue
operations
and
damage
collapse,
collapse,
structures,
emerging
medical
care
for
entombed
survivors,
also,
Task
Force
personnel
in
search
canines
reconnaissance
assess
damage
and
need
to
provide
feedback
to
local
state,
tribal
Territorial
and
federal
officials,
assessment
and
shut
off
the
utilities
of
houses
and
buildings,
and
also
hazardous
materials,
surveys
and
evaluations.
R
One
of
the
things
that
we
were
proud
of
in
bretha
County
was
that
we
surveyed
over
5
000
structures
in
waypoints
Bridges
and
such
during
that
first
week
of
the
flooding,
those
assessments
started
at
the
very
first
rescue
that
we
were
making.
We
were
also
plotting
damage
assessments,
structural
Hazard,
evaluations
of
buildings
needed
for
media
occupancy
to
support
disasters
and
relief
operations,
stabilizing
damage
structures
include
ensuring
and
cribbing
operations
on
damaged
buildings,
Hazard
materials,
equipment,
push
packages
for
operations
in
contaminated
environment
and
then
also
search
and
rescue
operations
in
water
environments.
R
R
So
why
Urban
search
and
rescue
one
is
flooding?
Kentucky
is
prone
for
flooding.
Tornadoes
where
tornadoes
now
is
aren't
starting
to
be
more
of
an
issue
here
in
Kentucky
potential
for
earthquakes,
hurricanes,
as
we
will
not
see
much
hurricanes,
but
we
do
see
the
aftermath,
the
rainstorms
that
come
from
hurricanes,
also
ice
storms
and
then
infrastructure,
collapses,
and
then
also
something
we'll
add
into
there
is
Terrorism.
R
So
some
interesting
facts
that
we
have
is
that
if
you
look
at
the
two
graphs
that
we
have
and
one
is
2021,
the
other
one
is
2022..
This
is
the
the
actual
tornadoes
that
touchdown
in
Kentucky
and
during
these
two
years
the
trend
has
been
has
been
to
start
in
the
southwest
part
of
the
state
and
move
more
towards
the
North
East
travel
coming
to
Louisville,
Crossing,
Bowling,
Green,
Frankfurt
and
then
also
Lexington
and
such.
Q
Sorry,
thank
you.
So
this
year,
earthquakes,
earthquake
risk.
Obviously,
Kentucky
is
on
the
New
Madrid
fault
line
in
2014.
A
Capstone
was
done
with
the
state
of
Kentucky
and
several
other
states
to
go
through
and
do
a
mock
exercise.
If
the
New
Madrid
fault
had
a
had.
An
earthquake
is
what
we're
seeing
here
when
we
did
this
Capstone.
This
exercise,
we've
saw
that
we'd
have
what
they
call
the
liquefaction
of
Western
Kentucky.
Basically,
all
the
moisture
in
the
ground
would
be
shook
up
and
it
would
flood
and
cause
flooding
in
that
area.
Q
Like
Lieutenant
Hargraves
mentioned,
we
also
have
flooding
area.
This
is
a
graph
that
you
see
on
the
right
hand,
side
with
the
the
history
there.
It's
showing
the
floods
from
1996
to
2020.
Kentucky
was
ranked
fifth
in
flooding
deaths
for
that.
If
you
look
in
the
bottom
of
that
area
there,
even
though
Kentucky
is
a
little
over
one
percent
of
the
population
between
1996
and
2020,
the
state
accounted
for
over
four
percent
of
the
total
flood
deaths
that
happen
across
the
United
States.
Q
So
some
of
the
history
of
use
are
in
Kentucky
since
2010.
It's
estimated
that
over
180
firefighters
have
received
this
highly
skilled
certification
and
training.
These
firefighters
stretched
from
the
state
all
over
the
state.
These
cities
include,
from
Paducah
to
Ashland
and
Louisville
to
Campbellsville
a
committee
formed
and
tried
for
five
years
2012-17
to
make
this
much
needed.
Statewide
team,
a
reality,
First
Responders
travel
to
connecting
States
and
join
their
federal
or
state
teams.
Q
Q
This.
This
is
a
pretty
telling
fact
here.
If
you
look
at
all
the
colors,
we'll
explain
what
it
is
Kentucky
being
there
in
in
the
South
that
you
see
is
considered
white.
All
the
states
around
it
are
either
blue
or
yellow.
If
you
look
at
the
blue,
colored
States,
those
are
all
states
that
have
Federal
use.
Our
teams,
which
means
FEMA,
is
controlled
by
them.
Q
The
states
in
the
yellow
or
the
light
yellow
that
you
see
are
all
the
states
that
have
state
teams
across
the
United
States,
as
you
can
see
out
of
the
50
states,
well,
48
that
you
see
there,
but
out
of
the
50
states,
there
are
43
states
that
have
some
type
of
State
team
and
we
are
the
only
team
in
the
South
that
does
not
have
a
state
Team
all
right.
So
why
is
that
important
to
Kentucky?
Why
would
that
be
important?
For
us?
Q
One
of
the
things
that
we
look
for
is
that
there's
a
major
disaster
in
Kentucky
we're
asking
for
our
partners
to
help
us
right.
If
there's
a
major
disaster
like
the
New
Madrid
fault
that
we
talked
about
earlier,
there's
going
to
be
disaster,
not
just
in
Kentucky
but
in
Ohio,
Illinois
Missouri.
All
those
areas
and
a
lot
of
places
have
a
lot
more
population
density
than
Kentucky.
If
something
like
that
were
to
happen,
Kentucky
would
not
have
the
resources
to
be
able
to
to
save
our
own,
let
alone
the
people
around
us.
Q
Q
Q
first
thing
we'd
want
to
do
is
Define
a
mission
statement
develop
an
accredited
program
that
should
be
a
standalone
division.
Under,
the
Umbrella
of
a
larger
entity,
the
most
ideal
spot
that
we
come
up
with
would
be
under
the
Kentucky
Emergency
Management.
However,
it
could
fit
under
any
agency
that
has
a
response,
a
responsibility
of
a
response.
We
wanted
to
develop
an
accredited
response,
teams
that
are
strategically
placed
throughout
the
state,
with
different
levels
of
training
and
capabilities.
Q
So
our
use
our
mission
statement
that
we
see
our
mission
statement.
The
mission
of
the
Kentucky
Urban
search
and
rescue
program
is
the
coordination,
development
and
maintenance
of
the
state
effort
to
provide
resources
to
locate
and
extricate
victims
and
trapped
by
man-made
or
natural
disasters
as
well
as
conduct.
Other
life-saving
Opera.
Saving
operations
with
Integrity
courage
and
dedication
maintain
maintaining
unified
leadership
with
a
sustainable
organizational
structure.
C
R
As
we
talked
about
created,
you
start
programming
teams
in
Kentucky
emap,
which
is
the
Emergency
Management
accreditation
program,
is
the
voluntary
standards,
assessment
and
accreditation
process
for
disaster
preparedness
programs
throughout
the
country
which
Fosters
excellence
and
accountability
and
Emergency
Management
and
Homeland
Security
Programs
during
the
development
of
our
program.
The
stages
of
the
Utah
program
would
allow,
assuming
would
follow
the
44
standards
that
apply
to
usar
resources
as
they
relate
to
emap
certification
of
those
standards.
They
cover
program
management,
Finance
planning
and
procedures,
Incident,
Management
alert,
immobilization
training
and
exercises,
and
resource
management
and
Logistics.
R
Also,
the
Kentucky
Utah
program
would
have
oversight
of
the
regional
teams
and
task
forces.
It
would
provide
financial
responsibility
over
task
force
and
Regional
teams.
It
would
provide
a
uniform
training
for
each
of
the
teams.
This
organization
component
would
allow
the
entire
state
to
be
trained
as
one
it
would
allow
for
standardization
on
what
equipment
is
purchased,
how
it
is
distributed
and
would
be
consistent.
R
R
So
with
this,
Kentucky
would
need
it,
because
that
you
saw
a
program
would
have
several
positions.
One
is,
would
be
a
Kentucky
Utah
program
director,
an
assistant
director
of
operations
assistant
director
of
planning,
four
part-time
training
officers,
a
assuming
assistant
director
of
logistics
with
four
part-time
Logistics
officers,
a
program,
finance
officer
and
a
program
Administrative
Assistant.
Q
Q
Q
Fema
model,
for
this
is
a
70
person
for
a
type
1
team.
The
type
1
task
force
would
be
a
three
deep
in
these
positions,
so
210
total
people.
This
is
following
the
FEMA
guidelines,
so
the
reason
we
would
do
this
is
that
if
FEMA
teams
had
to
come
back
into
the
state
like
they
did
for
the
tornadoes
and
for
the
flooding,
we
could
work
seamlessly
together
with
a
federal
team.
Q
Next
would
be
a
developer
and
establish
a
Type
3
team
that
would
consist
of
several
areas
of
responsibility
once
again:
search
rescue,
Hazmat,
medical
planning,
safety
and
canines.
These
are
highly
highly
skilled
structural
collapse
and
all
Hazard
rescue
technicians
and
they
work
for
12-hour
Cycles
they're
deployed
once
again
for
up
to
14
days
and
three
days
self-sufficient
FEMA
model
for
this
is
35
Personnel
for
a
Type
3
team.
We
try
to
do
three
deep
in
each
one
of
those
positions
to
make
sure
that
we
have
coverage
for
this
area.
Q
Q
So
the
task
force
response
times
if
we
look
at
those
both
in
Lexington
area
and
Central
Kentucky
and
then
the
Louisville
area,
what
we
can
see
is
where
these
teams
could
to
go
could
go
to
in
a
two-hour
range
all
right,
two
hour
response
time,
so
we're
seeing
that
we're
covering
most
of
the
eastern
and
central
part
of
Kentucky
and
started
into
the
western
part
of
the
Kentucky.
Q
The
one
to
the
right
that
you
see
is
a
six
and
eight
hour
response
time.
So
the
question
is
going
to
be.
Why
would
a
Kentucky
team
go
outside
of
the
state
to
to
assist
just
like
we
saw
in
the
tornadoes
and
once
again
in
the
the
flooding
here
in
Eastern
Kentucky
this
past
year
we
had
several
members
from
different
states
coming
to
help
us.
This
puts
us
within
that
six
hour,
time
frame
that
we
could
go
and
help
the
the
associated
states
that
you
see
there.
Q
So
how
would
the
usar
team-
or
you
saw
our
program
work
in
Kentucky
we'd-
also
want
to
establish
10
Regional
teams
all
right.
These
teams
consist
of
several
areas
of
responsibility,
including
search
and
rescue
for
a
type
1
heavy
Rescue
Team
swiftwater
rescue
a
type
2
Swift
water
team.
These
are
highly
skilled,
all
hand
all
hazardous
responders
that
work
for
the
12-hour
Cycles.
They
are
able
to
respond
very
quickly.
The
FEMA
model
is
12
person
for
this
type
of
Team.
A
regional
team
would
be
three
deep
in
these
positions.
Q
We
would
want
to
locate
each
one
of
these
teams
in
a
current
Emergency
Management
region,
which
we'll
see
in
the
next
slide.
If
we
look
at
this
in
Emergency
Management,
these
are
the
10
areas.
If
we
could
establish
this
program,
we'd
be
able
to
have
a
a
team
in
every
Emergency
Management
District.
That
would
cover
the
state
of
Kentucky.
These
will
be
our
responders
that
will
make
the
first
initial
contact
so,
for
example,
with
flooding
in
in
Eastern
Kentucky.
That
happened.
That's
our
most
recent.
Q
Q
So
the
always
the
big
question:
how
much
would
a
usar
program
cost
the
Commonwealth
of
Kentucky?
We
took
into
consideration
the
following
guidelines:
we
followed
the
FEMA,
the
susar,
which
is
the
state
Urban
search
and
rescue
program
NFPA,
which
is
not
National,
Fire,
Protection,
Association
and
emap
guidelines
realistic
times
for
developing
and
training
equipment
and
Fleet
current
Supply
chains
and
the
geographics
of
Kentucky.
Q
R
When
would
Kentucky
expect
to
see
Deployable
teams?
That's
the
awesome
question
we
have
to
ask
ourselves.
The
projected
timeline
for
Kentucky,
you
saw
a
program
would
be
one
year,
one
is
established
or
you
start
program.
First
then,
once
we
established
a
program,
we
would
establish
the
five
Deployable
Regional
teams.
We
looked
at
of
the
10
Regional
teams
that
we
would
have.
We
decided
that
the
first
five
teams
would
be
Far,
Western,
Kentucky
and
then
Far
Eastern
part
of
the
state.
R
Those
reasons
is
because
most
of
our
larger
cities
are
in
the
in
the
center
part
of
the
state.
Kentucky
task
force,
one
and
two
would
be
Deployable
on
a
limited
basis
and
Advanced
Training
would
be
given
to
the
membership
on
year,
two
established
through
the
five
remaining
Regional
teams,
Kentucky
task
force,
warning
2
will
be
fully
Deployable.
Advanced
Training
for
the
membership
will
continue
and
we
would
start
the
annual
three-day
mobilization
exercises
across
the
state.
R
We
have
a
couple
scenarios
that
give
you
in
closing.
First
scenario
is
that
tornado
has
touched
down
in
the
western
part
of
the
state.
The
local
jurisdiction
response
determines
that
they're
a
need
for
their
Regional
team
is
needed.
They
need
assistance.
The
state
EOC
is
notified.
The
issue
a
state
incident
number,
the
state
EOC,
along
with
the
regional
team,
notifies
the
Kentucky
u-star
Command
Staff
of
an
incident.
Once
the
regional
team
arrives
on
scene,
the
leadership
will
perform
a
size
up
of
the
incident
and
request
additional
Regional
teams
or
task
forces
if
needed.
R
Our
second
scenario
is
that
the
reports
are
from
the
local
and
state
meteorologists
that
the
potential
for
heavy
rains
and
flooding
are
issued
for
a
part
of
the
state.
Kentucky
usar
would
Place
Regional
teams
in
that
part
of
State
in
the
closest
task
force
on
alert.
They
would
start
to
pre-roster
a
team,
local
and
Regional
em
directors,
May
request
for
a
type
2
water,
rescue,
Regional
team
or
multiple
to
stage
in
an
area.
R
This
will
prevent
delays
in
a
response
and
I
stay
incident
number
would
start
to
be
created
once
the
local
jurisdiction
has
become
unable
to
support
the
mission
they
can
request
for
response
from
the
regional
team.
In
the
last
scenario,
a
category
4
hurricane
is
predicted
to
make
landfall
in
Kentucky.
Excuse
me,
landfall.
In
three
days,
the
state
of
Alabama
has
requested
the
following
from
the
state
of
Kentucky
through
emac,
which
emac
is
the
Emergency
Management
assistance
compact,
which
is
their
state
to
state
Mutual,
Aid
agreement.
R
Q
So
before
we
go
into
questions,
one
of
the
reasons
that
we're
looking
at
this,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
coordinated
attack,
a
coordinated
effort
within
anytime.
Something
happens.
A
disaster
happens
within
the
Commonwealth.
The
creation
of
this
program
will
allow
us
to
have
that
coordinated
area.
It
wouldn't
require
certain
fire
departments
or
certain
communities
to
call
on
their
friends
their
neighbors
beside
us.
It
would
automatically
be
a
thing
that
would
be
in
the
process
in
working
and
allow
this
the
state
to
be
covered.
M
And
just
real
quick
one
of
the
key
reasons
that
we
need.
This
team
in
the
state
of
Kentucky
is
rapid
deployment
due
to
the
constraints
of
communications
and
everything.
When
the
disaster
hit
in
Eastern
Kentucky,
it
was
almost
12
hours
before
some
of
these
teams
were
able
to
get
boots
on
the
ground
to
assist
the
fire
departments
in
the
in
the
communities
that
were
calling
for
the
assistance.
M
With
this
type
of
approach
and
with
this
type
of
of
organization,
we
could
theoretically
have
boots
on
the
ground
in
an
hour
and
that's
what
everybody
needs
to
think
of,
because
there
was,
we
could
have
saved
lives
in
Eastern
Kentucky
with
the
flood,
because,
with
the
flood
you've
got
Rising
Waters,
even
though
it
was
a
flash
flood.
You
had
people
that
were
able
to
hold
on
in
areas
that
they
couldn't.
If
we
could
have
got
teams
in
there
in
six
hours,
we
could
have
saved
lives.
So
that's
whatever
we
need
to.
M
A
Or
representative
heart
and
representative
Wheatley
appreciate
you
pushing
this
initiative.
I
was
blessed
to
sit
in
with
you
all
during
the
longer
version,
so
know
a
little
bit
more
and
was
able
to
go
over
to
your
training
facility
over
in
Lexington,
with
the
simulated
building
collapse
and
a
tornado
and
fascinating.
We
got
a
lot
of
great
people
in
in
our
state.
Now,
let's
get
them
all
on
the
same
page
and
coordinate
on
some
of
this.
These
unfortunate
disasters
that
we
seem
to
be
having
recently
there.
A
You
know,
did
a
thorough
job
and
look
at
you
I
think
it's
just
that
you
did
such
a
thorough
job
or
it's
12
o'clock
and
everyone's
hungry.
So
so
we
apologize
I
think
there
was
another
committee
that
started
11,
so
we
lost
a
few
members
there,
but
but
that
doesn't
mean
this
is
not
an
important
topic
and
we
look
forward
to
hopefully
getting
it
pushed
at
least
getting
something
started.
I
I
think
there's
the
opportunity
to.
M
A
Be
great
that'd
be
great.
All
right
did
any
members
have
any
other
business
Harbor
you're
here
we're
glad
to
have
you
here.
Yeah
we've
missed
you,
so
if
not,
we
will
have
one
more
meeting
in
November,
not
sure
that
date,
Senator
Meredith,
will
conduct
that
one
and
gentlemen
and
ladies
out
there
thank
y'all
for
being
here
and
if
there's
no
other
business,
we
stand
adjourned.