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A
A
We
will
move
on
to
our
agenda
at
this
point.
I
think
we're
going
to
start
with
the
spge
reports
first
thing
and
then
move
into
the
League's
testimony
on
their
agenda
after
that.
So
at
this
time,
if
Bruce
and
Chuck
with
Fire
Commission
could
come
forward
to
make
their
report
as
you
approach,
please
identify
yourselves
for
the
record
make
sure
your
microphones
are
on,
and
then
you
may
proceed
with
your
presentation.
D
D
I'll
try
to
make
this
as
brief
as
possible
for
you
with
the
changes
that
you
all
allowed
to
the
financial
disclosure
reporting
for
the
Fire
Commission
this
past
year.
We
currently
have
36
fire
departments
that
are
taxing
fire
departments
or
Standalone
taxing
districts
that
are
reporting
to
us
at
the
time.
I
submitted
this
to
report.
Those
we
were
at
32
of
36
had
reported
I
had
one
submit
over
the
weekend.
So
currently
we
are
at
92
percent.
We
have
33
of
the
36
reporting
to
us
that
have
Chuck.
D
Is
that
better,
okay
I'm
sorry,
we
currently
have
33
of
36
that
have
complied
and
the
other
three
we
are
in
communication
with.
We
have
one
in
McCracken
County,
one
in
Lewis
County
and
one
in
Hickman
County
that
we're
just
delayed
in
getting
reporting
for
various
reasons.
D
So
we
should
be
at
100
percent
here
in
the
very
near
future.
This
little
section
here
just
gives
you
a
rundown
I'm,
sorry
not
of
the
individual
fire
departments,
but
of
the
average
revenues,
total
revenues
and
average
revenues
from
the
year-end
axles,
and
then
the
current
year.
Estimates
for
these
districts
looks
like
average
of
about
eighty
three
thousand
dollars
for
the
Departments
that
report
to
us,
bringing
in
revenues
and
they're
reporting
estimates
of
61
000,
approximately
bringing
in
this
current
fiscal
year.
D
This
is
just
a
breakdown
here
on
this
sheet
of
just
historically
departments
that
have
reported
to
us
and
at
this
time
where
we
stood
so
we
are
at
92
percent,
but
less
departments,
I'm
I,
think
we're
going
to
be
in
a
lot
better
shape.
You
know
than
what
we
have
historically
this
time
of
the
year:
the
breakdown
for
the
Departments.
D
Just
for
y'all's
reference
there's
a
breakdown
of
how
the
departments
in
the
state
the
makeup
is.
We
have
20
that
report
responsible
to
County
governments,
111
that
are
taxing
fire
departments
so
of
the
29
that
report
to
us.
The
remainder
would
be
with
the
Department
of
local
government
of
196
fire
departments
that
report
to
City
governments
and
440
non-profits
and
then
four
standalones,
whether
it
be
airport
or
through
military
establishment.
D
With
the
compliance
reviews
we
now
do
annually,
we
have
three
completed
345
between
the
four
four
of
us
16
Fire
Commission
investigations
that
required
follow-up
could
have
been
just
something
simple
as
they
didn't
have
the
financial
records
we
needed
to
see.
At
the
time
we
went
back,
we've
had
we've
turned
one
over
to
County
attorney
and
State
Police
in
Johnson
County
one
was
turned
over
to
Sheriff's
Department
in
Ballard
County.
There
was
an
arrest
out
of
that.
D
One
we've
had
one
turned
over
to
Attorney
General's
office
in
Hart
County
and
one
turned
over
to
Attorney
General's
office
in
Harlan
County,
and
so
our
efforts
to
get
out
and
physically
look
at
the
records
are
are
being
beneficial
and
those
numbers
seem
kind
of
high
but
of
the
others.
We've
looked
at
I
mean
departments
are
doing
what
they
need
to
do
and
taking
care
of
business.
C
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman,
when
someone
like
Marathon
oil,
has
the
fire
department
who
are
they
responsible
to.
C
They're
they're
what
they're
called
industrial
fire
departments,
so
all
we
do
is
actually
just
track
their
training
they're,
not
a
fire
department.
According
to
the
law
that
falls
under
one
of
these
groups,
the
67
to
273
or
something
like
that
they
fall
into
their
own
industrial.
So
they
don't
report
to
us.
We
just
take
tractor
training.
Okay,
thank
you.
C
Bray,
thank
you
Mr
chairman,
so
when
you
all
are
referring
these
to
law
enforcement.
Typically,
what
are
you
referring
them
for.
D
The
ones
we've
refer
to
law
enforcement
would
be
for
suspicious
activity
with
financial
information
and
whether
it
be
you
know
what
we
suspect
to
be
theft
or
something
going
on
with
the
finances
that
doesn't
look
right.
All.
A
Chuck
quick
question
for
me:
yes,
with
with
regard
to
I,
know
some
of
them,
you
said,
had
been
turned
over
to
a
county
attorney
KSP
some
have
been
turned
over
to
the
Sheriff's
Department.
Some
have
been
turned
over
to
the
attorney
general.
What
triggers
the
different
person
that
you
turn
that
over
to?
Is
it
the
size
of?
What's
going
on
or
scope
or.
D
The
way
the
law
is
structured,
if
it's
something
we
initiate,
we
go
straight
to
the
Attorney
General's
office
with
attorney
general
and
state
Auditors.
There
are
some
cases
where
we'll
go
in
and
I'm
thinking
the
one
in
Ballard
County.
They
had
already
been
tipped
off
by
local
authorities.
Then
they
contacted
us
so
they
were
already
involved,
but
we
will,
from
our
standpoint,
we
go
straight
to
the
attorney
general
and
state
auditor's
office
when
we
find
something.
F
Can
you
hear
me
now?
Okay,
my
name
is
Tammy
Vernon
I'm
with
department
for
local
government.
I
am
the
branch
manager
over
cities
and
Special
Districts
and.
A
F
All
right,
let
me
get
to
the
next
page.
I
guess:
I'll
start
with
this.
What
our
special
purpose,
government
entities
spges,
are
independent
political
subdivisions
of
the
state
government
entities
that
exercise
less
than
Statewide
jurisdiction
and
organized
for
the
purpose
of
Performing
specific
services
within
limited
boundaries.
Tammy.
F
Wow,
okay,
you
want
me
to
repeat
that
or
okay
we're
good
okay.
So
a
few
examples
would
be
libraries,
tourism
and
extensions.
F
Today,
some
of
our
topics
for
today
is
going
to
be
about
dlg's
compliance,
also
an
update
on
the
new
SPG
e-system,
and
also
kind
of
giving
you
some
stats
for
the
lrc
annual
compliance
report
that
we
submitted.
F
Dlg's
responsibility
per
krs-65a,
we
are
to
create
and
maintain
online
central
registry
online
reporting
portal
and
online
Public
Access
portal.
In
addition,
we
are
to
monitor
compliance
such
as
track
status.
Changes
when
notified
like
Newfound,
spges,
dissolutions
and
housing
authorities,
prepare
statutory
required
reports
and
activate
non-compliance
procedures.
F
Now
for
the
new
spge
system
update,
as
you
know,
in
2020
dlg
worked
with
cot
and
we
ended
up
with
creating
a
work
order
to
build
a
new
system
for
the
svge
program
in
January
of
2021.
The
project
kicks
off
and
we
worked
with
the
cot,
admins
and
I'm.
Sorry,
the
business
admins
and
getting
everything
set
up
and
getting
the
stories
written
for
the
program
in
November.
We
went
live
with
our
very
first
population
and
that
would
have
been
your
cycle
ones
which
run
from
January
through
December.
Those
are
mostly
your
water
districts.
F
F
If
we
look
at
this
slide
that
we
have
here,
it
shows
that
the
project
start
date
was
1-1
of
2021
and
the
estimated
project
end
date,
which
I
think
was
committed
a
few
years
ago,
is
12
31-24
and
we
still
are
on
target
for
that
below
you're,
going
to
see
what's
in
process
and
the
different
phases.
I
think
at
that
point
in
time,
I
came
in
and
mentioned
six
phases,
and
this
is
where
we
are
phase,
one
which
is
svge
reporting
portal,
which
also
included
a
lot
of
the
foundation
work
for
phase
three
phase.
F
With
the
foundation,
what
happened
was
when
we
went
in?
We
just
couldn't
focus
in
just
on
the
phase
one
we
had
to
bring
and
build
the
foundation
for
the
other
phases
as
well.
The,
Message
Center
is
going
to
be
worked
on,
I
believe
starting
the
first
of
next
year.
We're
going
to
be
working
with
the
message
center
and
this
message
center
will
allow
one-way
Communications,
where
we
at
dlg
can
communicate
directly
with
the
spge
through
the
application.
F
It
will
take
60
days
to
get
it
built
and
then
also
it
will
allow
us
to
send
out
notifications
to
the
svge
and
keep
track
of
when
notifications
were
received
and
read
by
the
svge
phase.
Two
is
the
public
portal
and
we're
starting
that
second
quarter
of
20
23,
and
it's
basically
the
public
portal,
similar
to
what
we
have
on
our
old
website,
except
it's
going
to
have
a
little
bit
more
features
available
to
everyone.
F
Phase
four
I'm
sorry
phase
three,
which
is
the
dld
dlg
dashboard.
That
is
what
we
use
internally
to
process
Grant
exemptions
to
be
able
to
put
spges
on
hold,
go
through
the
Newfound
process
and
all
that
phase
four
is
the
compliance
piece.
F
That's
basically
the
statute-driven
deadlines,
and
it
will
allow
us
to
be
able
to
determine
where
areas
of
District
types,
which
would
be
like,
say,
I'm,
not
going.
To
give
an
example,
let's
say
for
ex
an
spge
group
is
having
issues
we
can
offer
a
little
bit
more
training
for
them.
F
Phase
five,
which
is
reporting
it's
ad
hoc
reporting,
that's
up
on
demand.
If
we
have
this
information
available
to
us,
we
can
pull
reports
and
as
well
as
data
and
provide
that
to
open
records
request.
Or
what
have
you
phase
six,
which
is
the
training
portal?
We've
already
started
that
that's
where
we
can
do
group
training
for
specific
District
type.
Also,
we
can
do
webinars,
interactive
training,
classroom,
signups
and
then,
of
course,
ongoing
maintenance
and
updates
for
feature
request,
status,
changes
and
other
or
I'm
sorry,
statute
change
is
another:
okay,
Phase
One
release
calendar.
F
F
F
We
are
also
working
on
the
audit
process
on
the
most
recent
report
that
we
uploaded.
It
is
in
test
mode
by
dlg.
We
should
have
that
audit
or
the
test
completed
here
within
the
next
few
days
to
make
sure
that
everything
is
accurate
on
there.
So,
please,
when
you
get
a
chance,
take
a
look
at
that
report
and
give
us
any
feedback
that
you
may
have
data
Integrity
checks.
F
F
F
Then
we
also
have
the
dissolution
process
where
spges
can
be
dissolved
after
two
consecutive
years,
no
I'm,
sorry,
they
can
be
dissolved.
If
they
drop
less
than
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
then
we
can
export
those
to
the
Fire
Commission.
Those
are
for
fire
protection
districts.
Only
anything
in
white
is
basically
the
service
center
and
also
status
changes.
One
of
the
things
that
we're
going
to
have
in
the
system
that
we
never
had
before
is
a
follow-up
system.
F
That's
where,
if
we
do
change
somebody's
status
say
to
be
dissolved.
They're
in
like
a
temporary
position,
we're
looking
at
it,
we
can
add
notes
to
it
and
have
follow-ups
out
there
that
the
system
will
automatically
notify
us
14
days
prior
to
the
date,
and
let
us
know
that
okay,
have
we
received
anything
on
that
or
not
so
it's
a
nice
little
follow-up
system
that
we're
going
to
be
having
built
in
release.
Six
is
basically
the
grant
exemption
form.
We
have
the
form,
which
is
the
budget
forms.
F
What
was
happening
under
the
old
system
was
we
had
a
hard
way
of
determining
whether
or
not
the
exemption
Figures
were
in
their
budget.
So
we
have
set
our
own
line
item
on
the
budget
form
that
basically
says
for
from
the
grant
exemption
form,
and
they
must
add
that
to
that
and
let's
see,
release
eight,
it's
talking
about
Municipal,
Utilities,
okay,
the
training,
okay,
that's
the
big
thing,
the
training
we
did
reach
out
to
all
active
spges
for
training,
and
we
took
them
through.
F
We
used
Microsoft
teams
and
we
worked
with
them
by
District
type
and
as
well
as
those
that
didn't
have
as
many
district
types
of
the
same.
We
kind
of
Consolidated.
Those
and
that
went
real
well,
we
also
videoed
it
and
we
do
on
our
website
have
one
of
the
videos
for
training
of
the
new
system.
If
you
guys
are
interested,
you
can
check
that
out.
F
Let's
see
the
next
release
after
that
will
be
228
and
that's
getting
into
like
the
ethics,
ordinances
and
so
forth,
and
then
release
10,
which
will
take
in
declassifying
an
svge
that
is
in
our
system
by
error.
Also
the
Newfound
process.
F
F
F
Occasionally
dlg
gets
asked
to
participate
or
send
out
information
to
the
spges
to
gather
data,
and
this
will
allow
that
to
happen.
If
there's
a
request
saying
that
they
need
just
certain
information
from
this
BGE,
the
system
will
be
able
to
pull
that
information
in
make
it
an
electronic
format.
F
Receivable
section
one
of
the
big
things
that
we're
hoping
to
do
is
on
our
new
website
is:
have
are
you
inspge,
where
possible
districts
can
go
out
there
and
take
a
look
to
see
if
they
meet
the
qualifications?
It
would
be
similar
to
a
questionnaire.
If
they
meet
this
criteria,
then
we
can
reach
out
to
them
or
they
can
reach
out
to
us,
and
it's
just
like
you
know,
are
you
an
s,
p
g
e,
or
are
you
exercise
less
than
Statewide
jurisdiction
and
so
forth?
F
We
have
a
couple
oversight
agency
needing
access,
specific
access
to
the
system
and
that
is
going
to
be
granted
also
area
development
districts
because
they
do
assist
in
compliance
as
well
and
that
will
be
granted
in
phase
two,
which
is
the
public
portal.
It's
basically
looking
historical
and
new
data
and
you'll
be
able
to
view
and
download
that
it
should
be
in
CSV
files,
and
it
will
include
data
such
as
the
registration
data,
the
budget
data,
audit
data,
compliance
data
and
Survey
data.
F
Now
the
compliance
report,
we
did
send
a
compliance
report
over
I
think
it
was,
was
it
Monday
I
think
it's
when
we
sent
that
over
the
data
is
as
of
October
the
21st
at
11
30,
so
we're
able
to
get
a
Time
on
when
it
was
actually
queried
against,
and
it's
based
off
of
all
active
spges.
F
The
audit
feature
is
currently
being
tested
by
the
CSD
branch
which
we
mentioned
earlier
and
then
some
of
the
data
Integrity
audits
that
we're
doing
we're
just
verifying
the
non-compliant
data
is
truly
non-compliant.
We're
also
the
compliance
submissions
are
truly
compliant
and
audits,
Define
lost
and
blank
submission
forms
and
audits
of
all
non-active
spges,
and
that's
the
current
audits
that
we're
currently
underway
the
findings
is
so
far.
F
We
have
to
have
their
total
revenues
and
expenditures
to
be
able
to
determine
what
audit
requirement
they
have,
whether
it's
a
audit
every
four
years
or
if
it's
an
audit
every
year
and
those
were
all
submitted
to
us
in
PDF
forms.
So
we
are
in
the
process
of
reviewing
those
pulling
that
data
out.
So
that
way
we
can
get
that
determination.
F
Fire
districts,
the
fire
districts,
are
able
to
submit
their
information
online.
Today
we
are
in
the
process
of
working
on
allowing
fire
districts
to
come
in
back
into
our
system,
and
we
have
probably
about
four
or
five
that's
ready
to
come
back
in
and
that
program
section
will
be
written
I
think
by
the
end
of
next
month
and
then
we'll
be
taking
those
through
and
getting
them
compliant
Housing
Authority
exemption
forms
we
have
in
the
in
the
old
system.
F
If
you're
taking
a
look
at
the
actual
file
that
had
sent
over,
if
you
look
at
column
d,
that
provides
the
spge's
current
compliance,
that's
where
they
are
today,
column,
I,
Is,
the
participation
date.
That
is
a
new
field
that
we
did
not
have
before,
and
it
is
based
off
of
the
first
day
of
the
fiscal
year,
the
spge
participated
in
the
krs-65a.
F
So
when
you're
looking
at
those
fields,
it's
basically
saying
that
on
say
January
or
July,
the
15th
they
were
either
compliant
or
non-compliant
at
that
time.
Now
they
may
be
compliant
today
and
that's
the
reason
why
you
have
to
check
the
column
d,
audit
requirements
and
audit
compliant
features
is
still
in
development.
We
should
have
all
that
completed
as
far
as
the
testing
like
I
said
within
the
next
week
or
two.
F
Okay,
now
we're
looking
at
overall
compliance
in
previous
years,
I
provided
by
fiscal
year
and
I
think
there
was
a
lot
of
confusion
there
looking
at
by
fiscal
years,
so
what
we
ended
up
doing
is
lumping
it
all
together
into
one
compliance.
So
that
way
you
get
a
full
picture
of
what
it
is.
Next
year
we
will
be
sharing
both.
F
F
You
thing
that
you
need
to
understand:
we
are
still
for
the
cycle,
threes,
which
is
the
majority
of
the
population.
We
are
still
in
the
75
days
or
the
30-day
notification
from
the
year-end
actuals
because
they
were
due
September,
1
and
so
were
sent
out
the
30-day
notifications
and
they
have
30
days
to
respond
back,
and
then
we
have
15
days
to
report,
so
those
numbers
will
signif
significantly
change.
F
If
you're
looking
at
the
January
cycle,
which
is
the
water
districts,
we
have
33
that
are
non-compliant.
The
issue
is
is
remember:
I
mentioned
something
about
some
zero
budgets
and
stuff.
That
information
is
being
updated
by
the
Kentucky
Rural
Water
Association,
getting
that
data
in
there,
so
those
numbers
will
increase
as
well
the
October
and
September
cycle.
That's
what
we're
currently
in.
F
F
F
The
extensions
look
like
they're
100
compliant,
they
have
zero,
that's
non-compliant.
They
did
attend
the
training
that
we
provided
and
they
pretty
much
were
right
there
getting
it
done
immediately.
F
Some
of
these
smaller
ones
like
air
boards,
ambulances,
they
were
a
smaller
group,
and
so
they
kind
of
went
into
the
same
group
as
far
as
training,
so
I
do
see
where
we're
going
to
have
to
do
some
additional
training
so
that
you
can
take
a
look
at
that
and
let's
see
the
next
page
is
just
continues
that.
C
Thank
you
for
the
report.
I
would
have
a
question
who
is
helping
design
who
is
doing
the
design
work
on
your
new
system?
Oh.
F
It's
our
cot,
okay,.
F
No,
it's
c-o-t
c-o-t,
we
contracted
with
them
in
September
of
2020.
F
F
G
A
F
H
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
I
have
a
similar
question
to
representative
Miller's.
H
But
so
how
does
cot
Bill.
F
F
So
we
get
I,
guess
a
monthly
report
and
I'm
really
not
into
those
details.
I
could
probably
get
that
for
you,
but
we
get
a
monthly
report
from
them
and
then
that
goes
into
dlg
and.
H
It
appears
that
they
follow
their
plan
much
better
than
some
of
the
vendors
that
we've
had
before
us
as
well.
So
yeah.
H
B
C
A
F
A
H
All
right,
thank
you,
Mr
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee
I'm
JD
Cheney,
executive,
director
and
CEO
of
the
Kentucky
League
of
cities.
We
always
look
forward
to
this
time
of
the
year
when
we
have
to
start
focusing
on
the
next
session
regular
session
of
the
general
assembly.
We're
honored
that
you
all
would
ask
us
to
present
our
2023
legislative
agenda.
I
have
the
all-important
job
today
of
turning
the
PowerPoint
and
introducing
the
leadership,
the
elected
leadership
of
the
Kentucky
League
of
cities.
Each
year
our
members
vote
on
officers
of
the
organization.
H
This
year
they
have
selected
mayor,
Jim
Hamburg
from
Southgate
to
be
our
president
and
Mayor
Mike
Hughes
from
the
city
of
Auburn
down
in
Logan
County
to
be
our
first
vice
president.
They
also
elected
mayor
Rita
Dotson
from
Marshall
County
city
of
Benton,
to
be
our
second
vice
president,
so
they're
going
to
do
the
bulk
of
the
talking
today.
I
will
tell
you
in
case
you
don't
know
about
our
process.
We
have
about
a
65
member
board,
it
kind
of
fluctuates
based
on
our
bylaws
65
member
board.
B
H
That
they
would
like
to
see
addressed
in
legislation
now
Brianna
and
I
thought
after
last
session.
Thanks
to
you
all,
you
all
gave
us
a
really
good
legislative
session.
Last
year
from
a
city
from
a
city
perspective,
we
were
a
little
optimistic
that
maybe
we
would
be
down
to
one
two
three
top
issues
that
are
having
a
hard
time
crossing
the
hurdle,
but
our
board
never
disappoints
they
just
replenished
with
25,
more
issues.
H
I
guess
that's
good,
solid
employment.
Some
of
these
things,
though,
you've
heard
about
you've,
heard
about
multiple
times
that
you're
going
to
hear
especially
mayor
Hamburg,
as
president
of
the
league
focus
on
some
of
these
issues.
We
would
call
less
controversial,
smaller,
smaller
issues
that
cities
need
to
be
fixed
in
order
to
put
them
in
a
position
to
where
they
could
be
more
competitive,
more
responsive
to
their
constituents,
and
just
so
you
know
everything
that
guides
their
board.
H
Boards
decisions
always
comes
back
to
that
fundamental
belief
that
local
decisions
are
best
made
at
the
a
local
level
that
flexibility
and
responsiveness
of
city
leaders
to
be
able
to
respond
to
their
constituency.
So
with
that,
I
will
turn
it
over
to
the
mayor
of
Southgate
KLC
president
mayor
Jim,
Hamburg.
I
Well,
thank
you
JD
and
thank
you
all
for
letting
us
be
here
today.
We
do
appreciate
your
time
more
than
you
know,
because
JD
said,
we've
got
an
active
agenda,
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
begin
here.
If
you
will
he's
going
to
be
so
kind
as
to
turn
the
pages
for
me
so
cities
matter,
more
than
half
of
Kentucky's
population
is
56
percent
live
in
a
city
about
75
percent
of
all
economic
activity
in
the
Commonwealth
occurs
in
cities,
four
out
of
five
jobs
in
Kentucky
are
in
cities
about
40
percent
of
Kentucky.
I
Cities
operate
a
public
drinking
water
utility,
forty
five
percent
operating
Municipal
sewer
system
and
dozens
operate
either
in
electrical
or
natural
gas
system.
The
KLC
board
of
directors
consist
of
City
officials
and
representatives
of
organizations
that
serve
cities.
Every
item
in
the
legislative
agenda
will
help
City
officials
serve
the
public
more
efficiently
at
the
local
level,
so
they
can
build
the
desirable
and
vibrant
communities
that
the
public
expects
and
who
we
serve.
When
cities
succeed,
Kentucky
succeeds.
I
Our
top
priority
is
revenue
diversification.
The
klc's
highest
legislative
priority
is
to
equalize
and
modernize
City
Revenue
options.
Cities
are
Revenue
limited
and
must
have
the
ability
to
generate
the
funds
required
to
pay
for
the
services.
Our
residents
expect
that
expect
of
us
to
maintain
if
Kentucky
wants
to
continue
to
grow
in
prosperous
cities
and
within
the
Commonwealth
House
Bill
8
began
the
process
last
year
with
a
focus
on
state
taxes.
I
I
I
I
Currently,
only
cities
that
were
formally
classified
as
fourth
or
fifth
class
cities
have
this
option:
transportation,
funding,
prioritizing
transportation
and
modernizing
Kentucky's
funding
mechanisms
for
local
streets
and
bridges,
quality
and
availability
of
City
roads
are
essential
for
economic
development.
Then
play
a
key
role
in
the
livability
of
a
city,
and
a
community
spend
more
than
340
million
dollars
a
year
to
maintain
and
build
streets.
I
I
I
I
Let
me
explain
the
calculation
heavily
favors
rural
areas.
One-Fifth
goes
to
goes
to
counties.
Equally,
one-fifth
is
based
on
Rural
population.
One-Fifth
is
based
on
Rural
Road
miles.
Two-Fifths
are
based
on
rural
land
area,
the
formula
that
does
not
account
for
the
higher
cost
of
building
and
maintaining
city
streets,
as
well
as
increasing
populations
within
the
cities.
I
I
Agreement
between
cities
and
counties
would
would
update
the
state's
Road
funding
mechanism
and
acknowledge
the
growth
in
cities.
Funds
over
fiscal
year,
2014
High
Mark
of
825
million,
would
be
evenly
split
between
a
municipal
and
County
Road
Aid
programs
at
13
percent.
Each
it
will
hold
counties
harmless
while
helping
provide
the
critical
funding
needed
to
maintain
the
city,
streets
and
bridges
that
are
instrumental
to
Economic,
Development
and
quality
of
life.
I
I
I
The
first
cut
takes
effect
in
January,
reducing
the
rate
of
4.5
percent
KLC
supported
this
transition
to
make
our
state
and
communities
more
competitive.
With
the
caveat
that
the
general
assembly
would
address
the
adverse
impact
on
already
negotiated
in
a
proof.
Tiff
agreements
with
State
participation
is
the
individual
income
tax
declines.
I
It
will
leave
several
cities
without
the
state
revenue
that
was
anticipated
when
the
when
the
states
anticipated
publication
or
excuse
me
when
the
actually
ran
over
when
the
agreements
were
entered
and
leave
those
cities
without
a
way
to
pay
for
the
debt
or
satisfy
other
obligations
that
were
contemplated
as
part
of
those
contracts.
That's
important
to
us,
modernization
to
publication
requirements.
I
The
state's
anticipated
publication
requirement
costs
City
taxpayers
around
1.4
million
dollars
a
year.
A
publicly
owned,
City
website
is
available
to
anyone
without
the
need
to
buy
a
newspaper,
and
it
allows
documents
to
be
available
for
a
much
larger
period
of
time
or
longer
period
of
time.
House
Bill
195
at
KLC
initiative.
The
legislators
passed
in
2020
allows
local
governments
and
counties
that
have
a
population
of
80
000
or
more
to
publish
documents
on
their
website.
G
G
G
Klc
supports
legislation
that
addresses
the
criminal
aspect
of
substance
abuse
and
those
that
take
a
proactive
stance
on
treatment,
Rehabilitation
training
and
especially
Workforce
re-entry
property
tax
notification.
Cities
that
collect
their
own
property
taxes
seek
to
help
help
from
pdas
and
others
to
ensure
more
current
property
ownership.
G
We
would
also
continue
to
continue
to
monitor
the
independence
of
sirs
and
kppa
administrative
expenses
paid
by
the
service
and
the
local
pension.
Systems
Operations
drop
drop
retirement,
there's
another
pension
issue.
Cities
hope
to
pursue
a
deferred
retirement
option,
plan
known
as
drop
for
serves
to
help
with
recruitment
and
retention.
G
A
drop
establishes
a
process
for
employees
to
lock
in
their
normal
retirement
while
earning
additional
lump
sum
payments
without
paying
into
the
retirement
system.
The
additional
lump
sum
payments
typically
get
added
to
the
monthly
pension
benefit
that
the
employee
would
otherwise
received
we're
looking
to
address
an
issue
with
code
enforcement
funds.
Cities
are
seeking
legislation
that
would
allow
local
government
to
add
unpaid
code
enforcement,
liens
on
property
tax
bills
and
amend
the
mass
foreclosure
statutes
that
exist
to
allow
it
to
be
used
on
Code
Enforcement,
liens
alcohol,
licensure
equality.
G
Paramedic
and
EMT
training
is
a
top
concern.
The
Kentucky
Board
of
Emergency
Medical
Services,
recently
moved
paramedic
training
into
a
more
of
an
academic
setting
instead
of
vocational.
The
new
academic
setting
has
caused
major
training
delays,
we're
seeking
legislation
that
would
change
how
KB
EMS
certifies,
paramedics
and
EMTs
to
make
it
easier
to
find
qualified
candidates.
G
G
Cities
are
requesting
that
a
proposed
increase
in
wholesale
water
rates
between
Municipal,
Utilities
and
regulated
utilities
be
escrowed
during
a
period
of
appeal
to
the
Public
Service
Commission,
so
taxpayers
do
not
lose
out
on
a
potential.
Revenue
legislation
is
needed
to
protect
citizens
from
utilities
violating
franchise
agreements.
G
G
The
Kentucky
education
and
Workforce
collaborative
needs
a
city
representative
in
the
group,
because
cities
are
vital
to
implementing
effective,
Workforce
Development
programs.
The
collaborative
currently
includes
representatives
from
State
and
County
governments,
the
business
community
and
the
education
sector.
G
We
need
to
clarify
that
County
clerks
are
not
required
to
post
the
party
affiliation
of
non-partisan
candidates.
Senate
Bill
216
from
the
2022
session
requires
County
clerks
to
post
the
political
affiliation
of
candidates.
Even
if
the
candidate
is
running
in
a
nonpartisan
city
election,
we're
also
looking
to
eliminate
the
requirement
for
City
candidates
without
a
primary
to
file
primary
election
Finance
reports
with
the
Kentucky
registry
of
election
Finance.
G
G
H
I
H
A
That's
not
at
all
ambitious
from
an
agenda
standpoint.
We
do
have
several
questions.
I
want
to
start
with
floor
leader,
Thayer,
okay.
He
wants
to
come
back
to
him.
Preparation,
representative,
Lockett.
C
Well,
I'm
going
to
start
off
by
saying
thank
you
for
this.
As
they
said,
ambitious
report.
I
could
probably
ask
questions
about
this
all
day,
long
about
certain
things.
My
my
question
concerns
about
this.
The
city,
candidate,
reporting
and
I
know.
This
is
where
we
are
probably
going
to
differ,
because
I
would
love
to
to
see
all
City
races
be
be
partisan
races.
So
my
question
for
you
is
for
your
agenda.
Why
do
you
feel
it's
important
for
those
races
to
not
be
partisan.
I
H
Never
our
board
has
never
taken
a
vote
one
way
or
another.
Regarding
its
position.
They
I
guess
they
voted
by
their
ordinance
enactment.
We
have
415
Incorporated
cities
in
Kentucky,
some
of
them
defunct,
which,
by
the
end
of
end
of
next
year,
probably
come
off
the
rules.
So,
let's
just
say:
407
cities,
probably
they're
active
cities.
Only
six
of
them
in
this
election
to
go
nonpartisan
have
have
remained
partisan,
Madisonville
just
now
went
nonpartisan
but
Hopkinsville
Shively,
Louisville
and
then
a
few
Irvin.
H
Just
a
few
few,
smaller
cities
throughout
the
state
have
have
kept
their
partisan.
So
at
the
local
level,
they've
made
that
choice
through
the
enactment
of
ordinance.
H
The
agenda
item
that
the
board
brought
up
was
about
primary
election
filing
right
now.
I
think
the
kref
and
I
think
y'all
may
have
highlighted
this
at
a
at
a
at
a
Committee
hearing.
Maybe
a
couple
weeks
ago
is
not
clear
that
that
a
city
that
has
eliminated
primary
elections
and
many
cities
have
done
that
through
the
state
doesn't
have
to
file
election
reporting.
H
Even
though
they've
for
a
primary
election,
even
in
a
city,
that's
eliminated,
the
primary
and
probably
a
little
more
than
half
of
Kentucky
cities
have
eliminated
the
primary
election.
Given
the
number
of
candidates,
you
think
about
the
number
of
small
cities
in
Kentucky,
sometimes
it's
difficult
I've
been
through,
went
through
the
list.
H
Yes,
this
weekend
and
the
number
of
cities
that
don't
have
enough
council
members
or
commission
candidates
even
to
fill
the
seats,
sometimes
is
there's
several
that
this
election
season
don't
have
that
some
of
them
would
do
by
running
run
in
some
of
them
have
to
do
by
vacancy.
But
what
the
board
asked
for
the
specific
item
was
to
clarify
in
those
kerf
statutes
and
regulations
that
if
the
city
doesn't
have
a
primary,
why
would
you
need
to
file
a
candidate
reporting
during
a
primary
primary
election?.
K
Senator
Alvarado
I
think
Mr,
chairman
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
If
it's
okay,
the
the
first
one
is
one
topic
here
on
the
priorities
listed,
is
near
and
dear
to
my
heart,
because
I
think
I
think
most
members
of
this
committee
have
either
filed
some
Bill
on
this.
You
know
kind
of
additional
priorities
list
that
you've
had,
and
so
one
of
the
ones
that
I've
been
filing
year
after
year
is
the
planned
unit.
K
Homeowners
association
bill
got
a
hearing
last
year,
one
of
our
committees
and
we're
hoping
to
have
another
hearing
here
soon
next
month
to
kind
of
give
an
update
on
that
I
was
hoping
you
might
be
able
to
provide
members
of
the
committee
here.
Some
of
I
mean
I
can
talk
to
people
individually
and
they're
people
that
oppose
this,
but
how
big
of
a
problem?
K
K
Golf
courses
that
turn
into
weed
jungles.
Basically,
people
lost
value
in
their
homes,
cities
and
counties
could
not
step
in
because
they're
not
permitted
to
by
law,
and
it
took
people
years
to
try
to
find
some
kind
of
resolution
only
to
have
the
golf
course
shut
down
and
everybody's
lost
value
on
that.
Maybe
if
you
could
just
briefly
address
some
of
that,
the
importance
of
that
I
think
I've
been
trying
for
four
years
that
bill
will
be
coming
back
next
year
again.
But
if
you
could
just
comment
on
that.
I
Yeah
I
think
all
the
above
Senator
that
you
just
mentioned.
Those
are
the
reasons
why
I
think
when,
when
you
take
a
look
at
this,
when
you
have
a
small
City,
that's
incorporated
or
that
that
is,
is
on
its
own
at
that
particular
time,
you've
got
an
HOA,
that's
gotten
defunct
as
if
you
will
or
Golf
Course,
or
what
have
you
a
partner
just
just
anything
like
that.
Even
a
park
inside
of
an
HOA
who
takes
care
of
that
and
it
comes
down
to
the
cities
is
we
have
to
take
care
of?
I
That
is
what
it
comes
down.
So
we
don't
want
to
it's
a
private
property.
One
last
thing
that
we
want
to
do
is
to
have
to
put
public
money
into
private
into
a
private
area
to
keep
it
up.
Code
enforcement
comes
involved,
is
what
happens
in
in
Fort
because
of
that
too.
So
you
have
other
City
resources
that
are
strained
because
of
that
also,
at
the
same
time
too,
because
the
property
isn't
kept
up
on
an
HOA,
whether
it's
a
a
Condominium
Association
or
what
have
you?
Property
values
begin
to
decrease.
I
So
now
we've
got
more
police
calls
going
to
that
that
the
particular
property
to
as
well
so
we
have
various
cities
have
brought
this
to
our
attention
that
they
are
running
into
these
issues
with
these
defunct
HOAs
that
are
here
and
because
that
it's
it
is,
it
is
putting
an
impact
on
City
resources.
It's
what's
happening,
so
the
reason
why
we're
asking
this
specific
type
of
legislation.
K
E
K
Things
go
badly,
the
owners,
the
people
that
are
there
don't
have
control
because
it
hasn't
been
turned
over
to
them.
They're.
Relying
on
that
developer.
The
developers
know
where
to
be
found,
and
that's
where
the
Cascade
of
problems
that
happens
actually
I
think
there's
probably
I,
would
eventually
say
over
a
hundred
and
I
would
encourage
everybody
to
look
into
their
local
districts
and
find
out
I.
I
I
think
too,
that
you'll
find
as
well
that
many
of
them
will
try
to
sell
those
particular
properties
is
what
they
will
do
or
no
longer
be
involved
them
as
a
management
company
at
that
particular
time
too,
or
they'll
hire
a
less
expensive
management
company
to
take
care
of
it.
That
may
not
be
their
low
locally
or
have
a
local
person
on
that
site.
I
So
because
of
that,
it
adds
more
problems
to
it,
because
now
you've
got
a
lesser
of
a
reason
to
be
on
that
property
or
to
maintain
the
property,
if
you
will,
because
of
that
so
which
does
take
the
problem
even
to
a
different
degree,
it
it
goes
into
that
defunct
category.
If
you
will,
in
that
point,.
K
K
I
can
tell
there's
a
lot
of
members
in
the
general
assembly
now
who'd
like
to
get
rid
of
the
idea
of
compensating
raid
and
just
opening
it
up
to
local
officials
to
tax
whatever
rate
they
think
they
need
to,
and
you
do
have
a
mechanism
now
as
cities
and
as
counties
to
raise
taxes
beyond
that
compensating
rate.
K
If
you
want
to
it's
often
who,
but
who
wants
to
take
that
responsibility
for
doing
that,
so
it's
going
to
be
I,
think
difficult,
but
I
would
just
remind
you
all
that
that
you
already
have
a
mechanism
to
do
that.
H
Senator
I
didn't
know
you
were
behind
there,
I
started
talking
and
I
said.
So.
Thank
you
for
your
sponsorship
on
the
homeowners
association
issue.
We're
not
at
we're
not
advocating
for
the
elimination
of
the
house
bill,
44,
compensating
tax
rate
I.
Think
it's
somewhat
of
a
of
a
myth,
though,
that
we
do
have
the
ability,
under
the
statute,
to
go
above
the
compensating
tax
rate.
H
Given
the
property
tax
timeline
as
a
practical
matter
by
the
time
recapitulations
are
finished
and
the
pva's
work
is
done
and
you
get
your
tax
rolls,
then
you
don't
have
enough
time
to
open
open
the
process.
If
you
go
above
four
set
it
at
a
rate
that
would
produce
Revenue
greater
than
four
percent
above
the
compensating
tax
rate,
you
don't
have
enough
time
to
get
the
petition
to
the
county
clerk
to
actually
have
it
on
the
ballot
for
a
rollback.
H
You
really
can't
ever
go
above
four
percent
because
it'll
never
go
on.
You
can
can't
get
it
to
the
county
clerk
by
the
first
Tuesday
in
August
in
order
to
have
it
on
the
printed
ballot.
So
there's
got
to
be
some
work.
It
may
not
have
to
change
House
Bill
44
itself,
but
with
regard
to
the
property
tax
timeline
in
order
to
be
able
to
meet
that
criteria
and
that
that
was
the
issue
that
were
raised
was
raised
at
buyer
members,
Mr.
K
Chairman
I
mean
I
know
we
did
follow
representative
Lee
and
myself
at
Father
Bill
several
years
ago
to
to
lengthen
the
amount
of
time
that
someone
that
the
community
could
petition
to
reverse
a
tax
increase.
Yep
there's
a
lot
of
fight
over
that
a
lot
of
our
smaller
counties
and
smaller
governments
didn't
want
that,
so
it
passed
for
Jefferson
County
and
for
Fayette
County,
at
least
for
you
know,
combined
governments
that
could
be
broadened.
K
The
original
language
of
that
bill
was
to
allow
it
for
the
entire
state
for
every
location,
and
there
was
a
push
against
that.
So
maybe,
in
terms
of
it's,
if
it's
a
matter
of
saying
Hey,
listen,
you
can
increase
it,
but
we're
going
to
widen
the
time
for
the
petition
to
come
in
and
reverse.
It
might
be
another
solution
to
that.
H
Just
I
mean
it's:
it's
a
matter
of
timeline
scheduling
in
order
to
ensure
that
if
a
city
makes
that
election
and
wants
to
face
the
voters
on
it
that
that
you
have
time
to
get
the
petition,
get
it
to
the
county
clerks
in
time
to
put
it
on
the
ballot.
If
you
have
a
petition
presented
to
roll
the
tax
rate
back,
it's
a
timeline.
It's
a
timeline
issue.
I.
A
Think
it's
Jimmy
and
Senator
Alvarado
I
know
you
have
seen
that
timeline
in
the
past,
oh
yeah
sure
with
some
of
your
thing,
but
for
those
of
you
who
have
never
seen
the
property
tax
timeline
for
Kentucky,
it
is
a
very,
very
in-depth,
detailed
thing
and
there's
not
a
lot
of
wiggle
room
in
it.
The
way
that
it
works.
A
C
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman.
That
was
quick.
Gentlemen.
Thanks
for
the
for
the
presentation
today,
I'd
like
to
go
back
and
push
back
a
little
bit
on
the
city,
candidate
reporting.
Well,
the
Kentucky
League
of
cities.
I
agree
with
you,
I
think
it's
you
know:
I've
owned.
My
fellow
colleagues
God
bless
him.
He
said
he'd
like
to
see
more
of
partisan
races.
You
know
I
think
we
should
get
away
from
that.
C
We
need
to
take
the
noise
out
of
the
room
and
I've
always
said
in
my
10
years
that
I've
been
in
this
job.
When
you
call
me
on
a
telephone
I,
never
ask
your
party
affiliation,
makes
no
difference
to
me
whatsoever
because
I'm
there
to
help
you,
and
so
we
want
to
take
the
noise
out
of
the
room.
We
want
to
take
the
pressure
from
the
national
politics
that
influenced
the
local
politics.
C
It's
about
helping
people,
that's
what
we
need
to
do
and
by
doing
this
and
inflaming
the
opportunity
to
become
after
in
East
races,
let's
select
the
most
qualified
he
or
she
person
would
be,
would
be
trying
to
work
on
the
local
governments,
and
so
we
can
move
processes
and
and
things
policies
forward.
That's
what
we're
here
to
do
so
I
agree
with
you.
Thank
you
for
doing
that
and
I
hope
we're
successful.
With
that
appreciate
you.
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman
thank.
L
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman.
My
question
I
originally
had
was
about
the
formula
of
this
page.
You
have,
and
you
know
you
can
say
well,
the
cities
want
more
money
and
to
the
detriment
of
the
counties,
but
I
really
want
to
hear
some
creative
thinking
here
on
how
you
can
work
with
everybody,
because
obviously
our
job
here
is
not
to
help
the
cities.
Our
job
is
to
help
the
people
and
last
I
checked,
there's
a
lot
of
areas
that
do
not
have
any
cities
in
this
state
where
I've
always
lived.
L
Most
of
my
life
I
live
in
a
city
now,
but
it's
like
first
time
ever
and
so
I'm,
just
thinking
all
of
the
space
and
all
the
roads,
I'd
like
to
do
a
redo
of
formula
fists,
but
I'd
like
to
make
it
more.
Even
and
not
you
know
a
money
grab
for
cities.
So
can
you
speak
to
how
you
figured
out
that
the
counties
are
going
to
get
something
out
of
this
as
well,
since
most
of
the
space
in
this
state
is
not
in
a
city
we'd.
H
Be
I'd
be
happy
to
address
that
very,
very
directly.
First
of
all,
Senator,
it's
not
a
money
grab
for
cities,
The
Proposal.
The
proposal
that
we
have
was
was
entered
into
with
the
Kentucky
Association
of
counties
to
look
at
a
high
Mark
in
terms
of
the
of
the
state
receipts
from
the
gas
tax
and
that
going
forward
they
they
would
continue
to
receive
the
proportionate
amount
that
they
received
for
Rural
and
secondary
roads.
H
There
was
an
acknowledgment
that
if
that
base
grows-
and
that's
a
big
if
right
now,
given
the
situation
that,
if
that
base
grows,
it
would
be
corrected
going
forward
if
it
goes
above
825
million
dollars
in
receipts
acknowledging
the
fact
that
it
it
does
take.
We
have
curbing
guttering
other
issues
that
cost
about
25
to
40
percent
more
per
mile
of
city
street
to
repair
than
it
does
County
roads,
but
this
has
not
become
a
city
V
County
issue
for
us.
H
We've
gone
to
the
table
on
this
multiple
times
with
representative
Santoro,
all
in
agreement
about
how
to
address
that
and
create
a
fairness
going
forward,
so
it
so
it
is
more
balanced.
So
it's
not
I.
I
think,
if
you
have,
if
you
can
ask
caico
and
the
the
counties
when
they
test
justify
next
month,
that
we
have
an
agreement
about
how
that
should
be
handled,
assuming
that
we
go
above
the
825
million
dollar
threshold
in
state
receipts,
I.
L
I
appreciate
that
it
sounds
more
of
like
a
temporary
quickie
than
it
does
an
actual
good
solution
for
long-term
policy,
because
825
is
going
to
then
need
a
CPI
on
it
and
then
we're
going
to
need
to
say.
Well,
that's
not
the
right
number,
because
asphalt's
gone
150
percent,
not
with
the
CPI
or
whatever,
and
so
I'd
like
to
see
a
little
better
long-term
policy
planning
on
that
instead
of
for
this
year
versus
next
year,
so
that
in
perpetuity
we
have
a
good
formula
that
works.
E
Thank
you,
Mr.
Thank
you.
Mr,
chair
I,
just
wanted
to
first
of
all
thank
y'all
very
much
for
all
your
efforts
this
this
past
year,
looking
forward
to
next
year,
but
I
also
wanted
to
make
a
quick
comment,
and
that
is
Senator.
E
Gibbons
and
I
are,
you
know,
co-chair
in
the
EMS
task
force
which
came
out
of
777
this
past
year
and
y'all
are
very,
very
involved,
and
we
appreciate
Brianna
and
JD's
efforts
and
and
inclusion,
not
inclusion,
but
involvement
in
this
so
I
want
to
address
on
page
14
and
and
on
12
12
is
the
paramedic
EMT
training
and
then
also
on
14?
Is
the
workforce
collaborative
we
are
addressing
that.
E
That
is
part
of
our
recommendations
that
will
be
coming
forth
in
the
next
week
or
so
in
order
to
try
to
Shore
that
up
from
a
Workforce
and
it's
from
EMT.
We
under
we
hear
y'all
lying
clear
as
well
as
Keiko,
oh
here
at
lionclear,
so
we're
trying
to
work
that
through
so
I
do
appreciate
that
I
just
want
to
make
that
quick,
quick
comment
that
we
are
looking
at
that
and
that's
gonna
be
included
in
our
recommendation.
So,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Mr.
B
Thank
you
chair
and
congratulations,
mayor
Hamburg
on
your
new
role
to
both
of
you.
Actually,
my
question
is
around
your
priority
on
substance
use
treatment.
One
of
the
struggles
we
have
statewide
is
finding
cities
that
are
willing
to
accept
treatment
facilities
within
their
border.
So
I'm
wondering
if
KLC
has
a
stance
on
credentialing
of
such
operations
or
facilities.
That
would
help
to
encourage
cities
to
allow
these
to
be
within
their
boundaries.
H
Yes,
as
you
know,
represented
the
bowling
two
sessions
ago,
sponsored
legislation
that
created
a
program
called
recovery,
ready,
ready
communities
that
hadn't
been
fully
implemented
yet
through
the
office
of
drug
control
policy,
but
just
had
a
chance
to
meet
with
representative
or
former
representative
Webb
Edgington.
We
have
Representatives
on
that
and
representatives
from
Volunteers
of
America
who's,
administering
that
that
program
yesterday.
So
this
was
Top.
This
was
a
top
of
Mind
topic.
H
I.
Think
our
board
of
directors
does
have
a
position.
We
have
a
pose
in
the
past,
any
kind
of
preemption
representative
Robert
Roberts
that
would
have
would
have
put
Sober
Living
homes
inside
the
definition
of
Residential
Care
Residential
Care
Facilities.
That
legislation
was
introduced
which
would
have
preempted
the
ability
for
local
governments
to
use
Planning
and
Zoning
at
all
to
determine
where
those
facilities
are
located.
So
that
kind
of
rubbed
against
this
idea
of
home
rule.
There
is
a
difficult
issue
with
accreditation
standardization,
as
you
know,
under
Kentucky
law.
H
Right
now
you
got
a
permissive
process
and
these
sober,
we'll
call
them
Sober
Living
homes
because
of
kind
of
a
subset
do
not
have
to
meet
any
accreditation
criteria
through
narr
the
Oxford
House
model
under
Kentucky
under
Kentucky
law.
At
this
point,
I
think
our
board
wants
to
consider
as
part
of
that
recovery
ready
Community
program
and
perhaps
legislation
going
forward
that
would
ensure
that
those
facilities
meet
some
minimum
level
of
crap
of
criteria
for
for
certification
Pro.
J
You
Mr
chairman,
just
briefly
JD
how
many
members
did
you
say
you're
on
your
board
again.
J
J
Think,
probably
what
we
all
really
need
to
recognize
is
that
does
reflect
greatly
the
the
geography,
the
city
types,
the
economics,
the
varying
issues
that
simply
are
priority
in
these
communities.
I
mean
you
know
the
old.
All
politics
is
local
right
as
an
overarching
principle,
though
I
would
like
to
kind
of
somewhat
give
it
an
admonishment
and
a
thought
to
you,
your
board
and
everybody
this
time
around.
J
It
doesn't
take
some
kind
of
experienced,
demographer
or
pollster
to
recognize
the
number
one
issue
that
everybody
cares
about
right
now
in
the
most
localized
place,
which
is
their
house,
is
inflation
between
gas
and
food
and
rent
and
insurance,
and
on
and
on
and
on
it's
crushing
folks
right
now.
We
all
know
that,
and
so
I
think
you
will
find
in
this
session
in
the
general
assembly,
an
exceptional
sensitivity
to
any
expanded
or
increased
taxing
authorities.
J
So
just
know
that
going
in
that
we
hear
a
lot
about
this,
we're
very
sensitive
to
it
and
I.
Think
elected
officials
at
every
level
would
be
wise
to
be
sensitive
as
they
move
into
2023
about,
what's
really
affecting
households
in
in
the
Commonwealth
and
and
around
the
nation
and
gentlemen.
I
do
thank
you
for
your
service
and
your
time
and
JD
I
appreciate
you
keeping
the
priorities
to
a
minimum
yeah.
M
Last
word:
thanks:
Mr
chairman
I
appreciate
that
I
think
I've
been
on
this
committee
longer
than
anybody.
So
today
feels
a
little
bit
like
Groundhog
Day.
Some
of
this
information
is
new.
Some
of
it's
not
I'm
gonna.
Thank
my
colleague,
chairman
McDaniel.
For
summing
up.
One
of
my
bullet
points
he's
exactly
right,
so
I'm
not
going
to
expound
on
that
I
do
want
to
agree
with
representative
Lockett.
M
If
we're
up
to
me,
city,
council,
school
board
and
judicial
races
would
all
be
partisan.
It's
the
number
one
thing
to
give
people
information
about
who
they're
voting
for
so
I.
Don't
really
see
us
change
in
Senate,
Bill,
216,
I
think
it's
a
good
bill.
We
just
need
to
leave
it
as
it
is
on
your
pension
changes.
M
I
need
to
let
you
know
that
we've
had
a
joint
leadership
meeting
and
decided
that
any
future
changes
to
any
pension
system
needs
to
be
need
needs
to
be
fully
vetted
by
the
public
pension
oversight
board
which
meets
this
afternoon
by
the
way.
So
we're
we're
going
to
look
a
scance
at
any
further
tweaks
to
previous
pension
bills.
We
passed
unless
they've
been
fully
vetted
by
ppop,
so
please
keep
that
in
mind.
M
I
feel
the
need
to
correct
the
record
about
what
you
said
about
historical
horse
racing.
It
did
not
bring
in
6.8
billion
dollars.
That's
how
much
was
wagered
and
for
all
of
you
who
paid
attention
to
our
excellent
meetings.
Last
interim
on
the
paramutual
wagering
task
force,
you'll
know
that
92
percent
of
what
is
wagered
on
historical
horse
racing
is
returned
to
the
Bettors
in
the
form
of
successful
winnings.
M
So
that's
6.2
million
return
to
the
public
over
800
million
of
that
was
the
state
excise
tax,
and
it
will
continue
to
be
an
increased
funding
source
for
the
general
fund.
We're
not
going
to
do
anything
else
on
a
historical
horse,
race,
taxation,
so
I
would
just
encourage
you
to
to
not
pursue
that.
Tell
your
Mayors
and
Corbin
and
Franklin.
They
ought
to
be
really
grateful
for
the
money
that's
being
spent
to
build
a
new
racetrack
in
Corbin
and
expand
Kentucky
Downs
to
a
year-round
racing,
gaming
and
hotel
location.
M
That's
creating
a
lot
of
jobs
in
their
communities,
so
I'm
going
to
be
pretty
skeptical
about
that.
We
we
gave
you
the
ability
in
the
last
session
where
there
are
track
extensions
with
historical
horse
racing
for
for
a
local
option,
tax
to
be
applied,
but
race
tracks
themselves
have
been
exempt
from
the
occupational
tax
via
statute
for
decades.
For
a
reason,
and
it's
because,
as
noted
and
you
can
read
the
report,
the
racing
industry
is
taxed
coming
and
going
multiple
ways
and
we
don't
need
to
be
going
after
our
signature
industry
in
that
way.
M
The
other
thing
and
I
and
chairman
McDaniel
sort
of
alluded
to
that.
You
know
we
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
committee,
we've
kind
of
gotten
away
from
the
original
intent
of
the
30-day
legislative
session,
which
has
only
been
around
for
20
years.
It
took
a
constitutional
change
and
everybody
wants
to
act
like
it's.
This
sped
up
version
of
a
60-day
session
and
I've
talked
to
leader
Rudy
about
this.
We've
passed
a
lot
of
bills
in
the
last
few
years.
M
M
Can
we
can
we
make
it
through
another
session
without
having
that
bill?
And
so
I'm
going
to
ask
you
to
take
a
look
at
this
really
figure
out
and
I
understand.
You've
got
a
68
member
board
that
you've
got
to
live
with
and
I
understand.
That's
your
your
governing
Authority,
but
we
have
a
governing
authority
too,
and
it's
the
people
of
this
Commonwealth,
who
probably
feel
overly
taxed
and
overly
burdened
by
the
actions
of
the
legislature
and
I.
Think
all
of
us
interest
groups,
people
advocating
for
bills,
bill
sponsors.
M
Ask
yourself:
is
this
something
we
really
can't
live
without
and
if
we
can
live
without
it,
let's
just
take
a
pause
passed
a
lot
of
bills.
Lately
30-day
session
was
not
meant
to
be
a
mini
60-day
session,
where
there's
a
race
to
pass
as
many
bills
as
possible
and
keep
a
scorecard
on
who's,
successful
and
who's,
not
end
of
rant.
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman.