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A
May
be
leaving
us
very
soon
ashton
to
my
right
and
what
day
is
your
last
day
july
22nd?
So
I
don't
like
that,
but
I
do
congratulate
you,
though.
That's
good.
We
appreciate
everything
that
you've
been
doing
for
us
and
and
you've
been
a
good
good
help
and
good
to
work
with.
I
appreciate
you
being
right.
A
A
We
have
do,
we
need
a
role
in
that
seriously
got
all
the
role
plays.
B
D
E
A
Now
now
we'll
entertain
a
motion
on
the
minutes
and
I
have
a
second
all
in
favor.
All
opposed
minutes
are
approved.
Thank
y'all
very
much.
A
First
up
we
have
on
the
agenda
items
motor
fuels,
average
wholesale
price
and
I'm
going
to
ask
if
perry,
nut
staff,
economist
legislative
economic
analysis,
lrc
and
john
rocker,
chief
economist,
lr
legislative
economic
analysis
lrc
come
to
the
table.
If
you
will
introduce
yourselves
for
the
record,
please.
D
A
C
A
Thank
you
and
what
we're
going
to
do
is
this
there's
been
recent
administrative
action
to
prevent
the
implementation
of
a
two
cent
increase
in
the
motor
fuels
tax.
A
I'm
not
making
a
statement
as
to
the
soundness
of
the
policy
decision
or
not
or
the
legality
or
the
constitutionality
of
it,
but
I
think
it'd
be
best
if
we
understood
motor
fuels
tax
a
little
bit
and
try
to
understand
what
the
implication
and
effects
are
of
that
action.
And
to
that
end,
mr
nutt,
mr
rocker
have
agreed
to
come
in
and
give
us
a
brief
overview
of
motor
fuels
tax
in
kentucky
and
broadly
how
that
two
cents
plays
into
our
estimates
as
well
as
the
impacts
of
it.
Two
of
you
will
receive
please.
F
F
First
I'll
talk
about
the
three
components
of
the
motor
fuels
tax
also
discuss
the
legislative
changes
that
took
place
in
2015.,
we'll
review,
how
the
motor
fuels
tax
rate
and
the
number
of
gallons
subject
to
the
tax
have
changed
over
time.
We'll
also
quickly.
Look
at
the
importance
of
the
motor
fuels
tax
to
the
road
fund
also
provide
an
overview
of
how
the
motor
fuels
tax
receipts
are
shared
with
local
government
entities
and
then
I'll
finish
with
a
review
of
the
statutory
conditions
relating
to
the
motor
fuels
tax
rate
for
fiscal
year.
23.
F
So,
let's
start
with
a
brief
look
at
the
at
the
motor
fuels
tax,
the
motor
fuels
tax,
kentucky's
motor
fuels
tax
has
three
parts:
the
excess
tax,
the
supplemental
tax
and
the
p
staff
for
the
petroleum
storage
tank
environmental
assurance
fee,
which
is
1.4
cents
per
gallon.
Now
the
excise
tax
is
9
multiplied
by
the
average
wholesale
price
of
gasoline,
and
these
receipts
from
this
particular
part
of
the
tax
goes
to
the
road
fund.
F
The
average
wholesale
price
used
to
set
the
excise
tax
rate
is
the
average
of
the
four
quarterly
survey
values
from
the
previous
fiscal
year
by
statute.
The
annual
change
in
the
average
wholesale
price
is
limited
to
plus
or
minus
10
percent,
but
in
no
case
can
the
average
wholesale
price
that
is
used
to
set
the
x
tax
be
below
the
statutory
minimum
which
currently
is
2.17.7
cents
per
gallon.
F
F
F
Now
kentucky's
lat,
the
last
change
to
the
motor
fuels
tax
occurred
with
the
passage
of
house
bill
299,
which
was
during
the
2015
regular
session
during
this.
During
this
time,
the
average
wholesale
price
of
gasoline
was
declining
very
rapidly
and
since,
at
that
time,
the
statutes
allowed
the
motor
fuels
tax
to
adjust
on
a
quarterly
basis.
The
motor
fuels
tax
was
going
to
decline
by
10
cents
per
gallon.
During
fiscal
year,
2015.
F
Overall,
this
action
by
the
general
assembly
allowed
the
motor
fuels
tax
to
decline
in
fiscal
year
2015,
but
not
as
much
as
it
would
have
under
the
prevailing
statutes.
At
that
time,
under
the
provisions
of
house
bill
299
after
fiscal
year,
2016
the
motor
fuels
excise
tax
rate.
Of
course
it's
been
tied
to
the
annual
average
wholesale
price,
in
other
words
prior
to
2015
or
2015.
Prior
to
the
fourth
quarter
of
2015,
you
had
a
quarterly
adjustment
in
the
excise
tax
rate.
After
that
time,
you
had
an
annual
adjustment
which
began
in
2017.
F
F
F
F
The
2015
general
assembly
took
action,
as
I
said
before,
house
bill,
299
froze
awp
at
two
dollars
and
seventeen
point:
seven
cents
per
gallon
and,
of
course,
set
the
rate
at
26,
the
total
motor
fuel
stocks
rate
of
26
cents
per
gallon.
So,
in
other
words,
there's
two
factors.
I
think
that
provided
an
incentive
to
change
the
motor
fuels
tax
statutes
in
2015..
F
So
I
think
those
are
the
two
primary
reasons
why
changes
were
made
during
that
time.
So
next
slide,
let's
think
about
motor
fuels.
Tax
receipts
for
a
minute
motor
fuel
tax
receipts
are
course
determined
or
a
function
of
the
motor
fuels,
tax
rate
and
the
taxable
gallons
or
the
gallons
that
are
subject
to
the
tax.
F
The
main
point
I
want
you
to
take
away
from
this
slide
is
that
taxable
gallons
are
relatively
stable.
They
don't
very
much
with
changes
in
the
price
of
fuel.
You'll
see
that
taxable
gallons
on
average
in
kentucky
are
about
3.1
billion.
Approximately
70
percent
of
that
is
gasoline
sales.
30
of
that
is
diesel
sales,
so
2.1
billion
gallons
of
gasoline
or
subject
to
the
tax
about
a
billion
gallons
of
diesel
fuel
are
subject
to
the
tax
since
we
sell,
or
we
have
taxable
gallons
of
3.16
billion
gallons
a
year.
F
thanks
a
lot
I'll
go
through
the
slide
quickly.
I
just
wanted
to
simply
show
the
total
road
fund
revenue
since
1996,
along
with
the
two
most
important
components
of
the
road
fund.
That's
the
motor
fuels
tax
and
the
motor
vehicle
usage
tax
you'll
see
that
the
growth
in
the
road
fund
is
largely
dependent
on
these
two
taxes,
as
the
average
wholesale
price
of
gasoline
increased
from
1996
to
2014
motor
fuel
excise
tax
increase
along
with
road
fund
receipts.
F
However,
during
the
recession
years
of
2009
and
in
2010
you'll
see
that
the
road
fund
declined
slightly
then,
and
that's
because
kentucky
motor
vehicle
sales
fell
sharply
and
that's
what
contributed
to
that
two-year
decline
in
the
road
fund
during
that
time
in
2015.
In
the
fourth
quarter,
as
I
said
before,
the
general
assembly
froze
the
motor
fuels
tax
rate
at
26
cents,
and
the
rate
has
not
changed
since
that
time.
F
you'll.
Note
the
most
recent
uptick
in
road
fund
receipts
in
fiscal
year
21.
They
actually
reached
a
record
of
1.642
billion
dollars
that
was
largely
tied
to
strong
growth
in
the
motor
vehicle
usage
tax.
The
receipts
for
the
motor
vehicle
usage
tax
in
fiscal
year
21
were
621
million
dollars,
and
that
was
a
about
20
percent.
More
than
a
previous
record
receipts.
For
that
particular
tax
category,
which
was
514
million
dollars
in
2019.
F
F
I
think
this
slide
just
basically
provides
an
overview
of
how
motor
fuel
tax
receipts
are
allocated,
in
other
words,
how
they
are
revenue
shared
with
local
government
entities.
You
start
with
the
current
20
26
cents
per
gallon
tax
rate.
There
are
certain
statutory
off
the
top
adjustments
prior
to
revenue
sharing.
F
F
After
these
two
deductions,
the
remaining
motor
fund
tax
receipts
are
revenue,
shared
and
51.8
percent
of
those
receipts
stay
in
the
road
fund
and
48.2
percent
of
those
receipts
are
revenue
shared,
as
reflected
in
the
pie
chart
here
now.
Finally,
let's
do
a
quick
review
of
what
happened
to
the
average
wholesale
price
of
gasoline
in
fiscal
year.
22.
A
F
So
that's
the
scripts
we
made
yeah
there
was.
There
was
a
correction
it
was
made
so
remember
because
the
rate
in
a
particular
year
is
determined
based
on
awp
from
the
previous
year.
We're
thinking
about
23.
We
want
to
look
at
the
awp
from
fiscal
year,
22.,
okay,
so
it
should
be
as
it
is
on
a
slide
fiscal
year.
2022
so
remember
that
the
fiscal
year
22
annual
awt
awp
determines
the
motor
fuels
tax
rate
and
23
unless
it
exceeds
the
maximum
awp,
that's
in
statute.
F
F
So
the
total
motor
fuels
tax
rate
in
fiscal
23
according
to
statute
would
be
21.6
cents
per
gallon
for
the
excess
tax
5
cents
per
gallon
for
the
supplemental
tax
1.4
cents
per
gallon
for
the
p
staff
fee.
That
would
be
28
cents
per
gallon,
which
is
2
cents
per
gallon.
Higher
than
or
compared
to
fiscal
year
22.,
however,
as
the
chairman
noted
early
in
this
meeting,
the
emergency
regulation,
which
was
filed
on
june
2nd,
will
keep
the
motor
fuels
tax
rate
at
its
current
level
of
26
cents
per
gallon,
so
to
kind
of
review.
F
F
Our
best
estimate
right
now
is
that
approximately
750
million
gallons
of
diesel
fuel
is
for
commercial
purposes.
So
our
best
rough
cut
estimate
is
that
savings
to
commercial
purchasers
would
be
about
seven
and
a
half
million
dollars
for
half
of
a
fiscal
year.
Mr
chairman,
that
concludes
my
comments
today.
If
there's
any
questions,
we'll
try
and
answer.
F
A
You
one
one
real
quick.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
may
have
missed
it.
We
budget
to
estimates,
and
so
we've
budgeted
for
road
plan
to
estimates.
The
increase
was
a
portion
or
all
of
that
included
in
the
estimate
that
we
budgeted
to
so
that
when
it's
removed
we're
a
little
over
budget
yeah.
How
much?
And
if
so,.
F
You
you're
exactly
right:
it's
from
a
budget
perspective,
it's
a
little
different.
It's
kind
of
a
nuance.
Remember
the
general
fund
and
road
fund.
Estimates
are
determined
by
the
consensus
forecasting
group,
which
may
be
modified
by
actions
of
the
general
assembly
as
part
of
the
the
consensus
force
casting
group
determinations
last
december.
F
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
just
a
quick
question.
First
of
all
appreciate
that
explanation.
Thank
you
back
in
fiscal
year,
2021
I'm
looking
at
road
phone
motor
fuels
and
motor
vehicle
usage
tax
receipts.
C
It
shows-
and
you
talked
about
this
briefly-
about
the
motor
vehicle
usage
tax
being
way
up
in
fiscal
year.
2021,
yes,
which
has
generated
a
high
receipt
year
for
us.
F
My
inclination
and
it's
just
my
speculation-
is
that
it's
a
combination
of
both,
but
probably
mostly
because
sales
of
vehicles
increased
fairly
slowly
and
I
think
in
fiscal
year
21.
It
was
probably
more
due
or
more
attributable
to
an
increase
in
the
value
of
cars
so
rather
than
the
number
of
cars.
So.
F
C
F
A
F
Commercial
fuels
and,
in
this
particular
case
that
that
was
kind
of
hard
to
do,
and
what
we
tried
to
look
at
with
this
particular
case
was
and
remind
me,
john,
because
we
used
national
data.
We
didn't
have
kentucky
data
which
we're
trying
to
acquire,
but
the
national
data
came
from
the
energy
information
administration,
and
that
was
for
class,
three
trucks
and
above
and
class
three
trucks
would
be
14,
000,
gross
vehicle
weight
rating
and,
above
so
think,
about
box
fans
up
to
dual
axle.
F
The
26
thousand
pound
trucks
are
basically
tandem:
dual
axle
dump
trucks,
all
the
way
up
to
the
class
7
class
8
trucks,
which
would
be
semi-tractor
trailers.
So
that's
what
we
were
trying
to
modify
it.
It's
a
really
rough
estimate
understand
that,
but
that's
what
we
were
trying
to
get
at
mr
chairman
mayor,
please
sure
so
you're
considering
owing
diesel
there-
probably
yes,
yes,
because
most
of
those
trucks
are
decent.
Okay,
how
is
jet
fuel
taxed
jet
fuel
is
not
considered
a
special
fuel
and
it's
not
taxed
under
the
motor
fuels
tax
statute.
F
A
F
A
I
A
I
Well,
all
right,
sir
I'll
do
my
best.
I
have
subject
matter
experts
who
can
help
me
who,
if
I
don't
so
they're
right
here
with
us
today
as
well.
I
thank
you
all
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
join
you
today
and
I
look
forward
to
talking
about
j
in
general,
the
price
of
motor
fuels
and
the
road
fund
and
in
particular,
how
the
kentucky
transportation
cabinet
is
dealing
with
it.
Now.
I
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
talk
about
the
two
cent,
the
the
suspension
of
the
two
cents
and
its
effect,
and
I'd
also
like
to
talk
about
where
we
are
in
the
cabinet
as
it
relates
to
dealing
with
and
addressing
efficiently
and
responsibly
the
inflation,
the
inflationary
pressures
that
we're
dealing
with
just
like
in
the
private
sector,
we're
adjusting
and
we're
adapting.
I
I
think
we
can
all
agree
that
these
are
unusual
and
extraordinary
times
I
can
say
I
I
lived
through
1981
in
1982
and
1983,
and
I
remember
paying
22
percent
interest
on
a
working
capital
loan
and
I
remember
13
inflation.
So
that's
what
I
meant
when
I
said
that
we've
all
learned
to
adjust
and
adapt
and
I'll
say
about
why
we're
doing
it,
especially
in
the
cabinet
today.
I
Now,
as
everyone
knows,
and
a
part
of
reason
that
we're
here
today
is
the
governor.
Bashir
has
taken
a
number
of
steps
to
help
kentuckians
in
his
view,
who
are
struggling
in
this
volatile
economy,
including
activating
price
gouging
laws
trying
to
prevent
a
spike
in
tolls
on
the
bridges
in
louisville,
which
I
have
vigorously
helped
him
with
as
well,
and
suspending
an
increase
in
motor
vehicle
property
taxes
and
of
particular
interest.
Here
today,
suspending
or
freezing
a
scheduled
two
cents
per
gallon
increase
in
the
state
motor
fuels
tax.
I
Now,
as
you
heard
ron
just
described,
the
motor
fuels
tax
has
not
increased
in
more
than
seven
years.
It
has
been
24.6
cents
per
gallon
of
gasoline
since
april.
The
1st
2015
and
the
governor's
suspension
would
continue,
will
continue
for
the
next
six
or
seven
months,
which
represents
the
same
as
it
has
been.
For
the
past
seven
years,
the
governor
consulted
our
cabinet
prior
to
issuing
his
emergency
regulation,
and
we
assured
him-
and
I
stated
at
the
time
that
suspending
the
two
cent
increase
would
have
no
material
impact
on
the
transportation
cabinet's
budget.
I
I
I
I
I
said
I
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
impact
of
inflation.
I
also
want
to
talk
about
the
impact
of
revenue
sharing
now,
and
I
know
that
colleagues
are
here
from
age
from
other
agencies
as
well.
Kbt
keiko
and
I
appreciate
their
points
of
view.
Let
me
talk
a
little
bit
about
where
we
are
and
bobby
joe
lewis.
Our
commissioner
of
rural
municipal
aid
is
here
with
me
today,
as
well.
I
Even
with
the
suspension
of
the
two
cent
increase,
local
governments
will
receive
more
in
absolute
dollars
in
revenue
this
year,
the
coming
year
or
the
year
that
we're
in
today
about
17
million
dollars
more
by
budget
estimates,
and
that
represents
an
8
million
increase
for
the
rural
secondary
road
program.
6.7
million
increase
for
county
road
aid
and
2.8
million
increase
for
municipal
road
aid.
I
I
Yes,
inflation
is
affecting
the
cabinet's
operations
and
especially
the
department
of
highways,
as
it
is
everything
else.
Inflation
makes
it
hard
to
plan
and
occasionally
hard
to
budget
or
harder
to
budget.
Even
we
recently
hosted
the
cabinet
and
ohio's
department
of
transportation
recently
hosted
an
industry
forum
in
covington
for
bidders
who
are
interested
in
the
brent
spence
bridge
project.
I
I
I
I
I
Our
rewards
committee
declined
that
project
because
it
was
17
over
the
engineer's
estimate.
We
rebid
the
project
again
in
june.
It
was
still
over
the
engineer's
estimate,
but
the
engineer's
estimate
had
been
adjusted
based
on
the
inflationary
pressures
that
we're
experiencing
today,
and
we
got
two
bids.
The
low
bid
was
still
right
at
the
105
million
mark.
I
I
I
Another
example:
a
rehab
project
in
christian
county
was
let
on
april
28th.
In
that
case,
there
was
one
bid
only.
It
was
17
above
the
engineer's
estimate,
ordinarily,
that
bid
might
have
been
rejected
and
re-let,
but
remember
that
we
are
also
dealing
with
the
dynamic
and
the
with
the
dynamic
of
meeting
public
safety,
and
the
condition
of
the
pavement
was
in
such
bad
repair
that
we,
the
judgment,
was
to
proceed
with
that
project
and
to
accept
the
bid
and
to
award
the
project.
I
Two
things
here:
the
cabinet
has
temporarily
modified
paint
specifications
to
allow
the
use
of
a
broader
spectrum
of
colors
because
of
the
shortage
of
paint
a
slightly
different
shade
of
yellow
than
we'd
normally
require.
This
is
just
examples
of
how
we're
adjusting
and
adapting
and,
as
I
said,
or
as
I
said
as
chairman
mcdaniel
knows,
there's
also
a
shortage
of
cement
and
extended
lead
times
for
valves
and
some
electrical
electrical
components
all
have
contributed
to
some
project
delays.
I
I
will
say,
however,
that
com
the
the
civil
industry
compared
to
compared
to
the
building's
industry
is
experiencing
less
severe
inflationary
pressures,
not
as
severe
inflationary
pressures
as
the
building
industry,
and
perhaps
part
of
that
is
because
there
are
so
many
more
materials
in
vertical
construction
projects
in
buildings
projects.
So
we
have
not
seen
or
I'm
not.
We
are
not
as
aware
of
those
projects
having
the
equivalent
price
pressure.
I
So
let
me
wrap
up
by
saying
that
I'm
proud
that
the
cabinet
topped
one
billion
dollars
in
lettings
in
calendar
year
2021
this
year
through
may
lettings,
are
at
572
million
and
that's
putting
us
on
a
path
to
lettings
of
a
billion
or
perhaps
even
more
for
calendar
2022.
I
B
Yes,
mr
trump,
thank
you
secretary,
just
just
so,
I
understand
completely
clarify
a
previous
statement
that
all
budgeted
road
fund
funding
projects
that
have
been
will
be
implemented
within
the
rogue
fund
this
year.
I
I
There
may
be
some
adjustments
and
now
well
I
don't
want
to.
I
don't
want
to
condition
that
I'm
just
saying
that
you
know
that
we
know
that
projects
sometimes
have
phases
to
them
that
maybe
an
engineering
phase
may
take
a
little
bit
longer
than
the
original
schedule,
and
so
the
leading
calendar
may
change
a
bit,
but
there
is
no
plan
to
adjust
anything
today.
B
A
E
You,
mr
chairman,
I
want
to
say
up
front
that
secretary.
I
think
you
should
be
the
model
of
how
to
run
a
cabinet
for
any
republican
or
democratic
administration.
I
think
the
way
you
get
back
with
people
the
way
you're
honest.
The
way
you
answer
questions
I
want
to
commend
you
for
that
on
the
record.
E
I
do
want
to
make
sure
I'm
clear
on
one
thing
and
I
very
much
appreciate
you
saying
that
it's
important
even
for
the
symbolic
help
for
kentuckians,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
I
get
these
numbers
because
I
understand
politics
and
I
understand
symbolism
just
like
anybody
else.
Here's
what
I
understand
the
road
fund
because
of
the
freeze
is
expected
to
lose
35
million
by
january
and
if
we
allow
it
to
go
through
the
through
the
whole
year
at
60
million.
But
here's
what
I
want.
Your
confirmation
on.
E
What
we've?
Just
if
you
do
that
per
month,
the
average
kentucky
driver
saves
94
cents
per
month.
So
my
question
to
you
is:
is
losing
the
money
to
the
gas
fund
really
worth
94
cents
per
month
at
kentuckian?
Or
are
we
doing
in
fact
just
something?
That's
symbolic
and
political,
but
not
meaningful
to
the
wallet
of
the
kentucky
taxpayer.
I
E
Chairman,
if
I
might
real
quickly
just
very
quickly,
I
appreciate
that,
but
when
we
go
around
the
state
talking
about
our
gas
tax
freeze,
I
want
to
make
sure
everybody
knows
it's
94
cents
per
month.
I
would
also
note
that
we
have-
and
we've
heard
a
lot
of
in
this
committee
and
the
transportation
committee
about
the
dilapidated
state
in
which
we
find
our
bridges
very
dangerous
areas
and
we
find
our
roads.
I
would
think
that
look.
E
E
I
wish
they
hadn't
said
no,
but
but
that
mother
that
you're
talking
about
needs
to
understand,
and
we
need
to
educate
more
that
her
bridges
that
she
pays
for
are
in
a
dangerous
state,
yet
we're
giving
kentucky
taxpayers
a
94-cent
break,
acting
like
we're
doing
something
meaningful,
while
taking
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
out
of
the
road
fund
out
of
our
county,
roads
and
state
roads,
and
I
think,
that's
quite
dangerous.
So
that's
that's
the
other
side
of
the
coin.
I
see.
I
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Let's
let
if
I
may
say
that
please
remember
too,
that
we
are,
we
will
be
receiving
all
together
from
the
iija,
the
bipartisan
infrastructure
law.
We
will
be
receiving
all
together
for
bridges
and
highways
210
million
dollars
a
year
more
for
the
next
five
years,
which
represents
about
30
percent
more
and
that
that
funding
itself
can
be
properly
properly
dedicated
to
just
the
projects
that
you're
describing.
A
Thank
you.
I
want
to
pick
up
on
it
just
for
a
second,
I
remember
a
vr
sub
that
we
had
last
interim
when
we
were
real
clear
about
having
about
750
million
dollars
in
the
hole
on
maintenance
alone,
no
new
projects-
and
I
know
that
today,
we've
talked
about
road
plan,
but
maintenance
is
a
different,
a
different
animal,
a
different
category.
A
There
are
two
schools
of
thought
about
how
to
approach
that
it's
a
head
scratcher
at
times
there
may
be
other
avenues
to
pursue
to
actually
give,
but
it
just
doesn't
make
a
great
lot
of
sense,
with
inflation
at
17
over
on
bids
plus
and
continuing
to
climb,
and
another
thing
is
that
of
that
30,
something
million
dollar
hit
or
60
million
over
a
year.
A
third
of
that
is
probably
going
to
commercial
trucking
that
two
cent
non-increase,
that's
not
a
kentuckian
necessarily.
D
D
Secretary
gray,
thank
you
for
being
here
and,
as
I
understand
your
comments,
the
governor's
recommendation
would
be
that
we
supplement
this
shortcoming
for
general
fund
appropriations
and
I'll
just
remind
everyone
that
in
this
last
budget,
the
general
assembly
took
unprecedented
measures
to
put
general
fund
dollars
already
into
the
road
fund.
So
there
would
be
money
there
to
do
a
match
for
these
federal
dollars
coming.
I
believe
that
was
a
tune
of
around
250
million
dollars.
D
We
also
changed
policy
on
where
the
state
police
is
funded.
So
we
put
a
lot
of
extra
general
fund
dollars
that
dollars
that
were
a
part
of
the
road
fund
from
the
general
fund
to
help
supplement
the
road
fund.
Now
we
can
debate
back
and
forth
what's
the
right
way,
but
the
bottom
line
is
these:
are
taxpayer
dollars
and
they
want
good
roads,
but
they
also
want
pay
raises.
We
need
pay
raises.
So
every
dollar
we
take
out
of
general
fund
to
go.
Someplace
else
is
a
dollar.
D
We
could
be
utilizing
someone
else's
state.
The
bottom
line
is
in
your
role,
the
governor's
role
ours,
the
general
assembly.
We
can't
do
much
to
impact
gasoline
prices.
A
lot
of
those
are
federal
issues.
There
are
issues
based
on
international
economic
thing,
issues
going
on
around
the
world
and
what
we
need
to
do
is
we
need
to
my
personal
opinion.
Is
we
need
to
challenge
the
biden
administration?
D
Let's
open
up
these
leases
on
drilling,
we've
got
the
ability
to
be
energy
independent
in
this
country
and-
and
I
think
it's
we
need.
We
need
to
send
the
message
to
kentucky
to
to
washington
dc
that
it's
time
to
develop
policies
that
have
real
meaningful
benefits
to
our
citizens.
Thank
you.
C
I
would
say
we
ran
the
first
time
together
both
of
our
first
times
I
wanted
to
segue
just
a
little
from
what
was
said
earlier
about
the
31
thousand
dollars
a
year
that
the
single
woman,
I
believe
you
said
with
two
children,
was
making,
because
I
had
actually
wanted
to
bring
this
up,
and
that
was
a
perfect
segue
for
me,
and
I
know
you
may
not
readily
have
this
information
today,
but
I
have
six
months
left
in
my
term
and
I
would
like
to
know-
and
I'm
going
to
ask
this
of
all
the
secretaries
and
people
that
are
in
the
executive,
branches
and
other
branches,
how
many
women
are
employed
in
executive?
C
C
You
get
it
yes,
ma'am.
I
would
have
a
feeling
that
most
of
these
cabinets
are
probably
not
represented
very
well
just
as
this
committee
is
not.
I
see
two
we
we
came
out
in
bright
colors
today,
so
we
can
be
recognized,
but
on
this
committee
it's
about
as
uneven
as
probably
it
is
in
many
of
these
cabinets,
and
I
don't
know
why
it
is,
and
a
lot
of
people
always
blame
it
on
the
fact
that
women
don't
put
themselves
up
for
these
positions.
But
you
know
what
I
kind
of
doubt
that
anymore.
J
A
All
right,
and
so
the
next
step
is
jimmy
henderson
executive
director,
ceo
kentucky
association
of
counties.
If
you'll
step
forward
to
the
table.
H
A
H
Chairman,
I
would
echo
representative
nemesis
comments
about
secretary
gray's,
absolutely
a
great
cabinet
secretary
to
work
with,
and
I'm
honored
to
follow
him.
Thank
you,
chairman
petry,
for
the
invitation,
and
I
was
thinking
about
joe
friday
in
the
dragnet
series,
in
what
my
role
here
today
is
just
the
facts.
I'm
here
to
give
you
all
information
at
the
chairman's
request
about
the
impacts
of
the
gas
tax
freeze
on.
H
Let
me
first
say
that
I
fully
understand
the
reality
that
elected
officials
feel
compelled
at
times
to
do
something
to
give
relief
to
folks
in
what
are
unprecedented
economic
times
with
inflation
at
40-year,
high
energy
prices
being
a
major
factor.
I
get
it
like
secretary
gray
and
each
of
you
on
this
committee.
I've
been
an
elected
official,
served
five
terms
as
county
judge
several
county
judges
in
the
room.
Here
today
we
all
get
the
very
real
political
pressure
that
comes
when
people
are
hurting.
H
In
fact,
I
accidentally
stumbled
onto
a
news
story
last
night
not
to
share,
particularly
with
this
committee,
but
just
it's
very
coincidental
about
the
the
governor's
race
in
georgia.
There
was
a
big
story
about
the
stacey
abrams
who's,
challenging
the
incumbent
governor
kemp
and
making
a
big
issue
about
not
acting
enough
on
the
gas
tax,
so
an
incumbent
republican
governor
being
challenged
by
democrat,
obviously
both
making
a
big
issue
about
about
this
in
the
campaign.
So
I
get
it.
I
understand
that
this
is
real.
H
My
role
here
is
not
to
be
critical
of
any
well-intentioned
efforts
to
provide
relief
to
taxpayers,
but
it
is
to
urge
caution
and
to
give
perspective
from
the
county
view
on
what
a
reduction
would
mean
to
counties.
I
wish
I'd
included
a
few
pictures
I
took.
I
got
these
slides
to
the
committee
last
week,
but
over
the
weekend
I
took
a
few
pictures
back
home
just
to
send
to
my
team
to
kind
of
show
the
variance
in
gas
tax
or
gas
gasoline
prices.
H
H
I
took
a
picture
of
that
and
sent
it
to
my
team
over
the
weekend
and
it
ended
crazy
that
we're
like
excited
that
gas
is
now
below
four
dollars
a
gallon,
I'm
thinking
about
taking
all
my
cans
from
my
more
and
other
things
to
town
to
get
gas
because
it
was
less
than
four
dollars.
But
you
know
in
my
home
county
it
was
406
at
the
at
the
the
bp.
It
was
409
at
the
minute
mark
out
at
the
interstate
at
the
pilot.
It
was
416.
H
same
community
all
paying
the
same
gas
tax
amount
of
the
gas
tax
amount
on
the
wholesale
price
is
the
same,
and
it
just
varies.
Unfortunately,
just
20
miles
up
the
road
in
warren
county
from
the
warren
county.
Folks,
here
about
439
here
in
frankfort,
it
was
about
4
44..
I
noticed
this
morning
4
39
a
week
ago
it
was
4
59,
2
or
3
weeks
ago
it's
479
same
gas
tax
number
in
all
those
situations.
The
fluctuation
at
the
retail
price
is
just
all
over
the
board.
H
Back
on
my
my
county
simpson
county,
I'm
a
border
county
chairman
petry,
a
neighbor
just
a
county
or
two
over
understands
this
tennessee
to
my
south.
It
doesn't
matter
whether
gas
is
two
dollars,
a
gallon
four
dollars,
a
gallon
at
the
map
at
the
murphy
station
there
at
walmart
on
the
south
side
of
simpson
county
on
any
day,
half
the
license
plates
getting
gas.
There
are
tennessee
license
plates
they're,
they're
they're,
buying
groceries
at
walmart
they're
at
the
lows
and
they're
getting
gas.
So
you
know
we're
we're
a
multi-state.
H
Our
state
is
impacted
by
other
states
into
our
system.
So
much
especially
those
of
us
on
the
border
when
it
comes
to
the
gas
tax.
So
but
let's
talk
about
the
impacts
of
of
the
gas
tax
on
counties,
I
always
enjoy
the
opportunity
to
make
sure
people
understand
how
much
of
the
transportation
system
itself
is
the
responsibility
of
counties.
I
think
people
are
sometimes
surprised
in
kentucky.
Half
of
all
the
road
miles
in
the
state
are
owned
and
maintained
by
counties
by
county
governments,
fiscal
courts
and
that's
about
the
same
nationally.
H
County
counties
are
also
owned
and
are
responsible
for
maintaining
a
third
of
all
the
bridges
in
kentucky
and
again,
that's
pretty
consistent
with
the
national
average.
In
addition
to
counties
our
40
000
road
miles
that
we
own
kentucky's,
400
plus
cities,
have
another
10,
000
or
so
miles
of
city
streets
that
are
included
in
the
equation.
So
between
cities
and
counties,
50
000
road
miles
are
maintained
by
cities
and
counties,
so
that's
kind
of
depicted
there
in
the
slide.
One
slide:
two
gas
tax
distribution
that
was
covered
well
by
the
lrc
folks.
H
A
great
crash
course
in
that
I
do
want
to
make
one
clarification,
because
this
happens
very
often
it
gets
a
little
bit
wonky,
but
but
just
to
be
clear.
So
when
that
40
5248
split
a
lot
of
times
that
48
gets
referred
to
as
the
the
local
roads
right,
but
but
just
to
be
clear
for
those
who
wouldn't
necessarily
know
this
county
road,
a
the
the
portion
that
comes
directly
to
fiscal
courts
for
maintaining
county
roads
is
18.3
cents
of
that.
Okay.
H
Another
seven
point:
seven
cents
goes
to
the
municipal
road
aid
fund
directly
to
cities
and
that
other
22
cents,
that's
rural,
secondary
those
are
state
roads.
Those
are
state
roads,
they're,
rural,
but
they're
state
maintained
roads.
So
those
are
the
responsibility
of
the
state
to
maintain
those
are
not
in
the
county
road
aid
formula.
H
Again
all
those
are
inside
a
county
and
based
on
formula
so,
unlike
the
other
portion
that
could
get
cut
up
all
over
the
state
depending
on
where
the
projects
are
or
what
have
you,
there
is
a
statutory
equation
that
makes
sure
every
county
gets
a
share
of
that
in
their
county.
But
again
just
to
be
clear.
H
The
18.3
is
the
part
that
comes
to
counties,
so
this
makes
the
the
gas
tax
disproportionately
more
important
to
counties
than
the
state
as
a
whole
because,
as
you
saw
in
that
earlier
chart
that
showed
the
increase
in
the
transportation
budget.
H
Half
of
that
looked
to
me,
just
quick,
looking
at
the
chart
in
the
last
few
years,
has
been
in
the
sales
and
usage
tax
that
doesn't
flow
to
counties
through
the
county
through
the
formula
to
county
road
aid.
So,
while
that's
good
for
the
state
overall
to
have
the
growth
just
understand,
the
only
source
for
county
road
aid
is
the
gas
tax.
So
again,
it
disproportionately
is
important
to
counties
and
and
cities
relative
to
to
that
change.
In
that,
I
think
there
should
be
policy
discussions
in
the
future.
H
I
welcome
that
opportunity
chairman
peter
and
I've
had
some
great
conversations
over
the
last
few
years
about
tax
policy
in
general
and-
and
you
heard
about
these
other
states
that
have
other
methodologies
for
how
they
tax
or
or
collect
fees
for
transportation
funding.
How
that
trickles
down
to
counties,
I
think,
would
be
an
interesting
conversation
in
the
future.
Finally,
the
third
slide-
this
is
pretty
expected,
I
think,
shows
the
two
important
trends
in
the
last
few
years,
just
to
further
explain
both
revenue
and
expenses.
H
I
think
most
of
you
would
expect
to
see
that
chart
on
the
right
be
what
it
is
just
overall
cost
in
construction.
This
is
a
national
statistic.
It
just
it
is
what
it
is.
Costs
are
going
up
right
and
have
been
pretty
steadily.
You
saw
again
from
the
lrc
folks
earlier
the
gas
tax
revenue
again
that
that,
on
the
left
is,
is
pretty
telling
specific
to
county
road
aid
funding.
H
Because
again,
that's
our
only
direct
correlator
to
that
2014
fiscal
year,
15,
high
watermark,
pretty
well
been
on
the
decline,
began
to
level
out
and
and
is
increasing,
and
so
the
question
of
how
much
it's
not
going
to
increase
is
a
question
of
still
on
the
increase
going
into
fiscal
year
23,
but
maybe
just
to
make
this
a
little
more
applicable
or
or
I
guess
an
example
that
be
more
understandable
and
what
this
really
means
to
counties
back
in
2010
2011.
H
I
talked
to
a
couple
of
my
fiscal
court
members
just
last
week.
This
is
the
time
of
the
year.
Counties
are
opening
bids
for
asphalt
for
the
next
year
and
and
the
per
ton
price
for
asphalt.
My
county
is
going
to
be
99
a
ton
and
that's
the
big
factor
for
most
counties
is
and
what's
that
asphalt
bid
plate
laid
in
place
that
tells
that
fiscal
court.
H
How
many
miles
I
can
blacktop,
you
know
resurface
whatever
it's
doubled
in
10
years,
and
yet
you
know
gas
tax
receipts
in
real
dollars,
not
adjusted
for
inflation
are
are
still
much
lower
than
they
were
just
a
few
years
ago.
The
the
freeze
itself
equals
about
5
million
dollars,
just
in
the
six
months
that
it
would
be
in
place
just
for
county
road
aid
and
I've
included
in
your
package
just
informational
again,
just
as
just
the
facts.
H
It's
not
here
to
necessarily
say
anything,
but
just
to
show
that
what
that
reduced
county
rotate
amount
would
be
in
each
county
based
on
the
the
reduction
in
the
or
the
freezing
the
gas
tax.
Finally,
again,
where
I
started,
I
get
it.
I
don't
fault
any
governor,
any
legislator,
any
elected
leader
who
wants
to
do
something
to
show
they're
trying
to
help
ease
the
pain
of
the
pump.
H
Again,
I
get
that
gas
tax
freezes,
gas
tax
holidays,
big
discussion
nationally
in
these
things
they
all
sound
like
really
good
things
for
struggling
families
in
a
tough
economy.
I
get
it.
I've
been
there.
I
promise,
but
I
simply
ask
you:
use
caution
seriously,
consider
the
impacts
of
any
policy
decision
that
actually
affects
transportation
revenues.
I
tried,
mr
chairman,
to
rush
it
all
through.
So.
A
L
A
A
L
Okay-
and
I
will
keep
this
very
brief
so
just
to
let
you
know
I
wanted
to
chairman
petrie
chairman
mcdaniel
and
members
of
the
committee-
thank
you
for
being
here,
like
I
said,
I'm
jennifer
kirchner,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
kentuckians
for
better
transportation,
where's
next
slide.
There.
H
L
Briefly,
historically,
we
have
long
been
an
organization
since
1977
that
has
advocated
for
sustainable,
efficient
and
effective
multimodal
transportation
funding.
Our
organization
has
over
300
members,
we
represent
all
modes,
including
air,
local
streets,
roads,
highways,
bridges,
rail
public
transit,
kentucky
ports,
river
industries
and
safety.
L
So,
just
briefly
to
echo
representative
nemis
as
well
as
others
mathematical
points
today,
we
too
believe
that
this
tax
will
only
this
tax
suspension
will
only
save
about
one
dollar
per
month
for
kentuckians,
which
will
be
equivalent
to
35
million
dollars
by
january
and
potentially
60
million
through
2023.
If
the
suspension
was
to
continue
the
two
cent
motor
fuels,
tax
increase
is
well
expected,
federal
funds
were
included
in
the
by
any
old
transportation
budget.
I
think
it's
also
important
to
note
that
not
all
of
these
savings
will
be
realized
by
kentuckians.
L
L
I
put
this
slide
up.
We've
seen
some
some
forms
of
it
in
previous
presentations,
but
I
think
the
what's
important
to
note
here
is
that
we're
connected
that
the
intent
of
showing
this
slide
is
to
illustrate
that
the
road
fund
revenues
have
remained
flat,
while
the
general
funds
have
steadily
grown,
especially
with
the
general
assembly
tackling
tax
modernization.
L
A
few
k,
a
few
key
takeaways,
are
that
in
the
last
eight
years
to
echo
what
I've
said,
we've
seen
little
to
no
growth
in
the
road
fund
and
that
has
not
kept
pace
with
rising
costs
and
increased
needs.
The
recent
suspension
of
the
two
cent
gas
tax
increase
contributes
to
our
chronic
underfunding
of
transportation
infrastructure,
we're
committed
to
a
kbt,
we're
committed
to
being
your
resource
and
look
forward
to
working
with
you
and
all
interested
parties
as
we
as
we
look
to
modernize
our
state
transportation
revenue
mechanisms.
L
L
I
think
what
this,
what
this
really
underlies,
is
that,
whether
we
agree
or
disagree
about
the
two
cent
suspension,
we
all
can
agree
that
the
methodology
of
funding
our
transportation
infrastructure
is
changing.
So
we
need
to
understand:
what's
what
can
we
do
immediately
and
where
do
we
need
to
be
going
long-term
to
account
for
change
in
energy
sources?
A
Very
good
thinking
all
informed
members
and
it
should
be
on
on
the
website.
Also,
there
is
an
opinion
submission
from
kentuckians
for
better
transportation,
which
is
a
further
summary
of
what
what
you've
related
so
far.
Thank
you
again
and
thank
each
of
the
presenters
on
that
topic.
Send
no
person's
seeking
recognition
on
that
we're
going
to
move
to
the
next
topic
broadband
deployment,
although
I
have
looked,
I
cannot
find
john
hicks
state
budget
director.
A
Oh
there,
he
is
right
up
front.
I
didn't
see
you
sorry,
john
sandy
williams,
kia
and
perry,
newcombe,
jeff
hahn,
we're
going
to
talk
with
director,
hicks
and
director
williams
first,
and
I
think
there
may
be
others
attending
remotely
on
this
one
broadband
deployment
director
hicks
good,
to
see
you
again,
ms
williams,
if
y'all
introduce
yourselves
for
the
record.
C
Williams,
executive
director
of
content
authority.
A
A
I
think
representative
pratt,
who
may
still
be
in
the
room
or
worked
on
a
broadband
deployment
fund
and
then
in
2021
there
was
money
inserted
with
a
process
and
then
in
2022
we
have
reworked
portions
of
that
process,
reinserted
the
money
and
that
new
process
is
very
much
different
than
a
competitive
application.
To
now,
an
application
grant
type
process
also
established
an
office
of
broadband
within
kia.
A
The
administration
had
talked
with
us
multiple
times
and
and
although
I
believe
that
director
hicks
did
everything
he
could
do
and
he
did
a
great
job
plowing
new
ground
on
this
field,
it
was
good
for
all
to
have
a
point
person
and
a
point,
division
that
dealt
with
just
broadband
to
develop
that
expertise
over
time.
So
we
have
had,
as
I
understand
our
first
round
of
funding,
let's
that
started
earlier.
A
Last
year
we
were
looking
for
a
50
million
dollar
addressing
and
I
think
maybe
83
million
has
been
let
in
the
last
couple
of
three
weeks
after
that,
through
that
first
process.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,
mr
chairman,
all
right,
and
if
you
with
that,
I'm
sorry,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
all
know
where
we
were
so
I'm
looking
for
an
update
on.
A
G
G
That's
happened
in
addition
to
what
representative
petrie
chairman
has
talked
about
with
house
bill
315
is
the
federal
government
has
stepped
up
and
is
putting
in
an
awful
lot
of
funding
two
states
to
do
that
very
thing,
and
so
so
I'm
going
to
give
you
a
couple
of
updates,
I'm
going
to
talk
about
house
bill
315
in
the
processes,
but
also
about
the
funding
sources
that
are
in
front
of
us
and
have
great
opportunity
right
now
we
300
million
dollars
was
was
appropriated
originally
in
the
21
session
for
broadband
deployment
as
a
result
of
some
changes
and
guidance
from
the
federal
government.
G
The
22
session
that
just
finished
in
the
budget
process
split
that
300
million
between
two
federal
sources.
One
was
the
american
rescue
plan,
state
fiscal
recovery
fund
and
the
other
is
the
american
rescue
plans.
Capital
projects
fund
you
can
see
in
on
the
slide
about
117
million
of
the
first
pot
and
183
million
of
the
second
pot.
G
So
how
much
have
we
committed?
As
the
chairman
said-
we
had
47
awards
just
recently
announced
about
just
under
90
million
in
grant
funding.
G
One
reason
it
was
so
many
awards
is
that
we
put
a
five
million
dollar
cap
on
an
individual
award,
so
we
had
at
least
a
dozen
a
dozen
awardees
comprising
the
47
awards,
but
204
million
in
total
investment
that
incorporates
the
the
match
requirement
at
least
a
50
match,
and
might
I
add
that
two-thirds
of
the
awards
incorporated
match
from
fiscal
courts
which,
which
really
tells
you
you
know
the
the
working
together
process
that
is
going
on
outside
in
our
counties
out
in
kentucky
that
was
wonderful
to
see
more
than
34
000
unserved
households
and
businesses
are
proposed
to
be
covered
by
these
awards,
touching
36
counties.
G
So
with
that
89
million
it
left
that
left
about
27
and
a
half
million
from
that
first
pot
of
117
million
next
steps
the
office
of
broadband
deployment.
Nobody
on
this
earth
is
more
glad
that
we're
creating
the
office
of
broadband
deployment
than
than
I,
and
I
have
to
send.
I
I
attended.
Mr
chairman.
I
attended
a
38
state
summit
that
the
national
governors,
association
and
ntia
sponsored
and
there's
a
lot
of
states
in
a
similar
situation.
G
They
may
have
had
a
broadband
office
for
a
couple
of
years,
but
only
a
couple
of
years,
and
maybe
one
or
two
people
and
I
looked
at
him-
I
told
him-
I'm
the
state
budget
director.
So
why
am
I
here?
And
I
said
I
made
sure,
with
the
general
assembly's
help,
that
we
got
a
budget
for
an
office
of
broadband
because
you
know
with
because
those
some
of
those
states
are
really
in
in
tough
situations
with
that.
So
next
steps
right.
G
We've
got
that
182.08
million
from
the
capital
projects
fund,
the
application
development
for
the
next
round
of
funding
is
going
to
incorporate
house
bill,
315's
processes
and
the
requirements
of
that
capital
projects
fund,
and-
and
I
want
to
talk
about
that-
a
little
bit
and
then
and
then
the
big
money,
the
infrastructure,
investment
and
jobs
act,
the
broadband
program
and
then
also
in
house
bill,
315
I'll
mention
a
few
things
about
a
poll
replacement
program
that
that
is
to
go
to
unser
broadband
areas.
G
Next,
so
we're
searching
for
the
executive
director
right
now,
a
wide
range
of
duties
and
responsibilities
in
the
legislation
for
that
broad
policy,
but
to
administer
the
broadband
deployment
fund
and
provide
a
single
point
of
contact
here
at
in
frankfort,
develop
a
statewide
plan
very
common
across
the
states
in
the
country
to
create
a
strategic
plan,
a
master
plan
for
broadband
deployment
across.
It
also
aligns
with
the
federal
government's
requirements
on
the
on
the
program.
G
I'll
talk
about
later,
the
requirement
to
have
a
five-year
action
plan
for
for
the
big
pot
of
money
at
the
federal
government.
So
these
those
two
things
align
to
develop
a
statewide
mapping
capability
right
now
we
as
I
used
to
use
the
phrase
we
had
an
indicative
map.
It
was,
it
was
information
we
knew
about.
We
could
gather,
but
we
knew
it
wasn't
perfect.
G
The
federal
communications
commission
is
in
the
process
of
gathering
more
detailed
information
across
from
all
providers,
in
addition
to
any
other
anybody
else
who
wants
to
submit
data
to
create
a
broadband
map
to
down
to
the
location,
specificity
and
and
served
unserved
underserved
in
terms
of
speeds
of
of
internet
available
to
them.
So
we
know
that
won't
be
a
perfect
step,
but
it'll
be
a
far
bigger
improvement
across
the
country.
In
the
information
on
where
do
we
have
broadband?
G
Next,
let
me
talk
about
the
capital
projects
fund.
Briefly,
in
order
to
access
and
use
those
funds,
each
state
must
submit
a
grant
plan.
Then
a
program
plan
for
approval
we've
had
a
couple
of
calls
already.
This
is
being
administered
by
the
u.s
department
of
treasury,
and
so
we've
already
had
some
calls
with
them
about.
We've
talked
to
them
about
house
bill
315.
What
we're
doing
in
here
their
eyes
brightened
up
when
I
said
one
thing:
that's
in
this
legislation
that
I
don't
think
you'll
see
in
other
states.
Legislation
is
a
term
no
service.
G
G
It
was
something
that
they,
they
really
brightened
up
and
said
so
anyway,
we
were
telling
them
about
through
house
bill
315,
and
they
said
that
you
know
that
sounds
really
aligned
with
the
requirements
that
we
have
in
submitting
a
grant
plan,
so
we're
working
on
a
grant
plan
so
that
we
can
then
have
a
program
plan
which
won't
be
very
different.
So
I
won't
go
into
the
details
because
in
some
states
you
can
use
that
pot
of
money
for
several
different
things
in
kentucky
we're
using
it
for
broadband
deployment.
G
So
we
don't
have
this
multiple
uses
that
we're
gonna
do
with
with
our
funding,
and
so
so
the
next
application
development.
As
the
chairman
has
said,
it's
not
gonna
be
a
request
for
a
proposal.
It's
going
to
be
a
grant
process
and
a
lot
of
detail
in
house
bill
315
about
not
just
the
information
that's
in
in
the
application,
but
the
timing
of
the
actions
taken
and
and
and
some
of
the
other
things
one
of
the
more
unique
elements.
G
Well,
I
think
I've
got
it
in
the
next
slide
in
house
bill.
315
I've
mentioned
some
of
these
before,
but
you
know
that
really
small
bullet
that
you
can't
read
down
at
the
bottom.
You
know
no
service
first
unsurf
locations
next
underserved
after
that,
a
higher
priority
and
a
higher
possible
state
match
for
unserved
areas
based
upon
location
density.
So
it
was
something
else.
Some
of
my
peers
from
other
states
were
really
interested
in
that
piece
of
legislation
is
that
there
is
a
rubric
for
determining
low
density.
G
You
know
areas
of
the
commonwealth.
We
have
plenty
and
with
them
having
no
service
first,
that
there
is
a
possibility
that
they
can
have
a
higher
state
share
of
their
grant
award
because
of
the
high
capital
costs
associated
with
reaching
those
outer
areas,
and
so
so,
some
of
the
other
priorities
that
are
in
house
bill.
35315
that
follow
that,
but
we're
first
going
to
go,
follow
in
the
next
round,
the
no
service
and-
and
this
you
know
and
see
how
this
location
density
measurement
plays
out
in
the
next
round
of
broadband.
G
So
the
infrastructure
bill
is
easy
for
me
to
say
it's
you'll
hear
the
word
I
hate
acronyms,
but
beed
broadband
equity
access
and
deployment
program
is
the
federal
government's
big
program,
and
this
was
passed.
It's
going
to
be
administered
by
the
national
telecommunications
information
administration
and
those
that's
this.
G
That's
the
federal
agency
that
knows
broadband
the
most,
and
so
we
have
a
lot
of
subject
matter:
expertise
there
and
they've
been
very,
very
good
in
outreach
with
all
the
states,
so
so
100
million
dollars
in
this
in
the
legislation
minimum
forget
100
million
dollars,
we're
going
to
split
a
37,
should
say
billion
dollar
pot
across
all
50
states
and
territories
and
and
and
tribal
lands.
G
An
estimate
and
it's
these
are
outside
estimates
not
given
by
the
federal
government,
says
that
kentucky
could
receive
up
to
700
million
dollars
which
which
in
this
estimate
was
about
23rd
most
of
the
50
states,
so
that
that
one-
that's
wonderful
news.
The
300
million
you've
already
appropriated
the
700
million
possible
there's
a
billion
dollars
there
to
deploy
broadband
to
unserved
and
underserved
areas
in
kentucky.
That
process
will
take
a
while.
G
I
mentioned
that
fcc
map
they're
working
on
that's
going
to
be
the
trigger
to
determine
how
much
each
state
will
get
out
of
that
37
billion,
and
so
that's
so
they're
gonna
they're
working
on
that
and
but
that
won't
the
allocations.
We
don't
expect
until
early
in
calendar
2023
and
so
in
the
meantime,
each
state
has
to
submit
a
planning,
grant
application
and
there's
good
funding
to
go
with
that
lots
of
efforts
similar
to
house
bill.
315
we've
got
to
have
a
statewide
plan.
G
And
so
so
good
thing
is:
we've
got
time
to
get
that
done,
but
I
wanted
you
to
know
that
there's
an
effort
that
we
will
be
making
out
of
frankfurt
but
with
everybody
else
to
engage
the
all
of
the
commonwealth
in
in
a
five-year
action
plan,
slash
strategic
plan
for
the
commonwealth.
G
Next
there's
another
piece
that
was
in
the
infrastructure
bill
around
broadband,
but
it's
called
digital
equity
had
a
consultant
kind
of
give
me
that
simplicity
of
broadband
devices
skills
you
have
to
have
all
three
to
successfully.
You
know.
G
Work
on
the
internet,
entertain
on
the
internet,
apply
for
a
job
on
the
internet,
and
so
digital
equity
is,
is
a
phrase
that
really
goes
to
digital
literacy,
digital
skills,
and
so
we've
got
to
put
a
plan
together
on
how
how
the
commonwealth
will
exercise
this
we're
going
to
get
about
20
million
over
five
years
in
order
to
roll
this
out,
and
we
got
to
have
a
planning
grant
first
and
these
two
plans.
G
I
mentioned
the
action
plan
and
this
digital
equity
plan
have
to
be
aligned,
and
so
this
next
nine
months
you
know
is:
it
is
a
time
period.
The
deadline
to
get
that
done,
but
I
want
to
make
you
all
aware
we're
going
to
do
the
same
thing
on
this
engagement
right,
our
libraries
right.
G
Because
if
we're
going
to
bring
broadband,
you
know
to
areas
that
don't
have
it
now
you're
going
to
have
individuals
who
may
be
able
to
work
on
a
phone
but
may
not
be
able
to
turn
on
that
laptop
and
get
on
the
internet.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
are
going
to
go
with
that
all
positive,
though
the
the
outcome
to
be.
Not
only
do
you
have
it,
you
can
use
it
now
in
house
bill
315,
there's
20
million
dollars
from
the
american
rescue
plan
act.
G
State
and
fiscal
recovery
fund
called
the
rural
infrastructure
improvement
program.
It
is
a
it's
set
up
to
be
a
reimbursement
of
expenses
for
the
removal
replacement
of
utility
poles
that
were
necessary
to
bring
and
provide
broadband
service
to
unserved
areas.
So
we're
not
replacing
polls
where
there's
already
sufficient
broadband.
G
They
have
to
be
in
a
project
that's
going
to
achieve
deployment
in
an
underserved
or
unserved
area
before
they
can
access
reimbursement
funds
from
this
pot
of
money
for
poll
replacements,
because
it's
just
a
part
of
the
construction
process
of
bringing
broadband
and
fiber,
particularly
you
know
across
you
know
the
you
know
all
of
the
land
in
kentucky.
There
are
some
limits
and
requirements
in
there
there's
still
a
matching
requirement.
It's
kind
of
a
first
come
first
serve
process.
G
An
application
will
have
to
be
available
by
september
one
and
we'll
match
it
up
with
the
requirements
of
the
federal
funds
that
we're
using
here.
I
see
no
problems
with
that
because
of
the
unserved
requirement,
that's
associated
so
in
essence,
we're
going
to
help
subsidize
part
of
the
construction
costs
poll
replacements
for
projects
going
to
deploy
broadband
and
unserved
areas.
A
A
A
I
know
that
we've
changed
processes
by
which
the
money
is
being
put
out
for
the
deployment
of
broadband
and
trying
to
get
to
those
unserved
no
service
underserved
areas
that
first
year
was
painfully
slow.
I'm
hoping
that
with
the
office
of
broadband-
and
I
know
you
and
I
talked
back
there
in
session-
that
it
will
be
it's
already
ready
to
go
ramped
up
things
to
do,
but
you're
ready
to
move
forward
with
that
office
and
utilize
it
correct.
Yes,
we
are
okay,
very
good,
and
I
think
that
application
grant
process
should
speed
things
up.
G
A
One
continuing
issue
that
we
seem
to
have-
and
you
and
I
have
discussed-
and
I
know
many
members
of
this
committee-
have
we
have
two
regions
in
kentucky.
When
we
deal
with
deployment,
it
seems
like
we
have
tva
related
areas
and
we
have
psc
related
areas
and
just
real
quickly.
Staff
had
put
together
where
the
first
round
of
distributions
went
out
that
first
89
million.
A
A
There
is
almost
nothing
west
of
I-75
east
of
I-75
east
of
I-75.
There
is
almost
nothing
and
then
you
can
tell
where
the
other
psc
region
runs
up
through
west
kentucky
it's
bereft
of
of.
Let's
I
continue
to
work
on
that.
I
ask
you
to
continue
to
work
on
that.
Just
understand
that
we
took
notice
of
that.
We
knew
that
it
would
be
behind,
but
it
can't
be
behind.
G
Does
that
make
sense?
No,
I
understand
one
of
the
things
and
talk
about
this
engagement.
You
know
we
all
are
dependent
upon
the
providers
and
we
have
providers
of
various
place.
Private
sector
municipal,
co-ops,
telephone,
electric
co-ops
they're,
the
ones
that
are
going
to
have
to
get
this
job
done.
What
we're
going
to
try
to
do
is
help
lower
the
cost
of
capital
that
deployment
yeah.
G
A
But
that
may
be
something
we
have
to
work
on
and
thankfully
I've
got
two
masterminds
behind
315
another
bill,
senator
gibbons
and
representative
reed.
So
they
know
exactly
what's
going
on,
they've
had
those
same
concerns
about
psc
regions
and
people
who
haven't
been
in
the
mode
of
even
thinking
about
broadband
deployment
because
it
wasn't
available
to
them.
So
that's
something
I'm
just
showing
when
you
do
a
shotgun
approach
of
where
the
distribution
went.
There
was
concern
of
okay.
We
got
to
watch
for
that.
A
A
J
A
Right,
please
proceed.
You
know
what
the
topic
is
and,
and
so
what
are
your
thoughts
on
it
from
the
county
and
local
perspectives?
Okay,.
M
Well
I'll
go
first!
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
for
inviting
us
to
come.
Make
a
presentation
before
you
I'd
like
to
thank
the
general
assembly
for
the
passage
of
hb
315.
M
prior
to
that
we're
a
psc
regulated
utility
so,
prior
to
that,
we
needed
to
get
a
cpcn
to
do
what
we're
looking
at
doing
since
the
passage
of
hb
315.
We
have
received
notice
from
our
lender
that
cpcn
is
no
longer
required
and
we
also
got
an
order
from
the
commission
which
states
the
exact
same
thing
so
we're
ready
to
proceed.
M
We
have
approximately.
We
have
done
some
of
the
engineering,
the
pre-engineering
on
the
project.
We
are
ready
to
do,
make
ready
that's
about
a
25
million
dollar
project
or
part
of
the
project,
and
once
we
do
finish,
the
make
ready,
we'll
be
ready
to
start
construction
with
that
we
serve
approximately
59
000
meters
in
our
service
territory.
Okay
of
that
35
000
are
considered
either
unserved
or
underserved
by
the
fcc
maps.
So
that's
about
60
percent
of
our
membership
is
considered
unserved
and
or
underserved.
M
A
Very
good-
and
I
really
hate
to
do
this,
but
director
hicks.
Can
you
just
step
back
to
microphone
really
quickly?
I
meant
to
ask
this:
you
stay
right
out
at
the
table.
I
just
need
to
step
up,
so
we
can
hear
you,
okay,
here's
a
psa
part
of
this,
so
there's
a
local
entity
out
there,
government
or
non
that
wants
to
avail
itself
of
what
the
legislature
and
the
administration
is
executing
as
far
as
most
recent
bill
and
the
application
process
for
broadband
deployment
to
whom
do
they
address
their
questions,
requests
applications.
G
It
would
be
me
on
the
point
person
I'm
soon
going
to
hand
it
off
to
someone
else,
but
the
the
trigger
mechanisms
are
are
are
working
with
the
us
department
of
treasury
on
the
grant
plan
and
then
kind
of
correlated
with
that
will
be
the
development
of
our
grant
application.
So
it's
really
the
development
of
the
grant
application.
G
That's
going
to
be
the
trigger,
we'll
put
it
out
and
you
know
broadcast
it
widely,
but
one
of
the
we're
trying
to
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
that
application
coincides
and
and
complies
with
the
federal
guidelines
is
very
good.
A
F
A
M
Thank
you
very
much
because
that's
so
important
to
us
is
the
fact
that
our
we're
looking
at
a
three
year
three
to
five
year,
build
out.
So
the
contractor
is
going
to
be
putting
in
150
to
200
miles
a
year
and
every
every
day
we
wait
is
one
more
day
the
members
don't
get
broadband.
I
understood
next
up.
K
I
appreciate
your
comments
over
the
last
five
minutes,
chairman
preacher,
they're,
all
on
target
and
well
known
to
all
of
us
in
western
kentucky
who
operate
in
psc
territories.
It's
been
a
slow
rollout
and
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
it's
not
just
about
serving
current
citizens,
which
we
do
want
to,
but
it's
also
about
economic
development
and
growth.
We're
a
border
community,
many
people
who
are
looking
to
locate
for
various
reasons,
either
urban
flight
looking
to
work
in
remote
locations
because
they
don't
have
to
work
in
cities
anymore.
K
One
of
their
first
determinations
on
where
they're
going
to
buy
a
house
is
internet
availability
and
speed
beyond
sometimes
even
cost
in
schools
and
other
things
that
were
more
important
in
the
past
and
again
we
lose
potential
kentuckians.
We
lose
homeowners
across
the
river
to
evansville
and
vandenberg
county
in
indiana,
because
they've
been
able
to
roll
out
their
internet
services
faster.
So
my
message
here
today,
especially
for
rural
counties,
is
urgency.
K
We
have
a
an
electrical
co-op
with
a
plan,
we're
ready
to
go
and
it
is
a
an
organization
that
is
governed
by
local
citizens
who
are
elected
to
the
co-op
board.
So
there
is
oversight.
We
are
confident
we
can
deploy
this
new
technology
quickly,
but
we
are
waiting
on
these
grant
projects.
So
I
ask
all
of
you
to
please
keep
a
thumb
on
this.
Please
working
on
it,
keep
working
on
it
for
us
and
we
will
use
the
money
wisely
and
serve
kentuckians.
J
We
want
to
express
our
gratitude
to
the
general
assembly
for
establishing
the
office
of
broadband
deployment
during
this
past
session.
Like
most
other
states,
a
dedicated
statewide
office
comprised
of
professionals
from
this
industry
is
sure
to
help
internet
providers,
county
governments,
state
offices
and
other
stakeholders
in
the
industry.
By
creating
a
centralized
point
of
information
and
assistance,
we
all
want
the
same
outcome
as
I'm
sure
you
guys
do
and
that's
to
provide
broadband
service
to
all
of
kentucky.
J
I
know
and
I'm
sure
these
same
conversations
were
had
in
the
early
1900s
with
respect
to
electricity,
and
here
we
are
today
having
the
same
discussions
about
internet
and
the
importance
of
growing
our
rural
communities,
with
this
now
necessity
and
much
needed
provision
with
that.
I
I
just
want
to
give
a
couple
real,
quick
examples
of
some
of
the
struggles
folks
in
rural
parts
of
our
county
of
crittenden
county
have
we've
got
one
gentleman
who's,
a
software
engineer
for
a
major
nationwide
company
and
att.
J
It's
a
50
meg
by
50
meg
service,
which
is
not
high
speed
in
today's
standards
and
another
situation.
We've
got
some
folks
that
are
artists
for
bonefish,
grill
and
they're,
paying
to
get
a
25
by
25
service.
They
would
pay
over
700
a
month
to
another
big
box
provider.
So,
as
you
can
see,
it's
an
extreme
hardship-
and
you
guys
know
this-
we
we
know
you
know
this
because
of
the
actions
you've
taken
and
the
appropriations
you've
made.
J
We
just
ask
that
these
required
standards
and
and
processes
that
we
need
to
go
through
to
be
able
to
access
the
funds
that
have
been
appropriated
are
established
as
quickly
as
possible.
I'm
sure
the
stand-up
of
the
office
of
broadband
deployment
will
expedite
that
process
and
mr
hicks,
hopefully
we
won't
have
to
continue
to
bombard
you
with
requests.
We
can
pass
that
along
to
the
next
gentleman,
but
I
thank
you
for
your
time
and
and
appreciate
all
of
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
know
representative
raymond
had
one
question.
I
think
director
hicks
may
be
able
to
hit
that
seeing
no
one
else
seeking
recognition.
A
Okay,
director
hicks,
would
thank
y'all
very
much.
Was
anybody
online
that
needed
to
speak
up?
I'm
just
asking
right
now
now
going
three
two
one
we're
closed
all
right,
director
hicks,
ms
williams
and
representative
raymond.
Would
you
ask
your
question
quickly
and
see
if
mr
hicks
can
answer
that
if
we
need
to
do
that
outside
of
the
committee.
G
Now
there
are
actually
definitions
in
house
bill:
315
no
serve's
not
defined,
but
I
think
we
all
know
what
that
means.
Unserved
is
25
meg,
three
meg
download
upload
and
then
underserved,
I've
already
forgotten,
but.
G
L
A
A
point
now
where
I
think
we
may
want
to
go
outside
of
the
committee
to
dig
into
that.
I
hate
to
say
that,
but
because
it's
a
good
question,
but
we're
in
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
that
at
this
point,
I
really
need
to
make
sure
we're
able
to
cover
cover
the
last
topic:
drinking
water
and
wastewater
grant
program.
A
This
is,
in
large
part,
a
continuation
of
an
attempts
that
went
out
last
session,
not
the
last
year,
two
programs
that
went
out
one
with
more
discretionary
across
the
board,
one
that
was
an
allocation
per
county
roughly
based
on
population,
with
an
offset
that
second
program
was
re-upped.
This
last
session,
additional
monies
put
in
and
in
large
part,
as
I
recall,
there
were
a
lot
more
applications
and
requests
than
money
was
available
per
county
in
the
last
round.
A
So
that's
the
continuation
for
this,
and
if
you
can
speak
to
what
it
is,
what
the
need
may
be.
In
your
estimation,
how
it's
going
to
work
in
the
psa
part
of
it
of
when
someone
out
there
with
a
water
or
wastewater
issue
in
local
government
or
local
entity,
has
a
question
about.
What's
available
and
to
whom,
should
they
direct
their
inquiries.
G
All
right,
I'm
gonna
help
out
sandy
yeah.
Absolutely.
Mr
chairman,
good
introduction,
250
million
dollars
appropriated
by
the
21
session
out
of
the
american
rescue
plan,
act
another
250
million
in
the
22
session,
plus
a
set
of
other
kind
of
project.
Specific
funding,
in
addition
to
that
second
250.,
so
200
million
of
that
first
250
has
been
committed.
150
million
is
approved,
50
million
of
it.
G
You
know
we
had
other
set-asides
in
that
first
250
for
unserved
and
federal
consent,
decree
areas,
and
so
so
the
so
the
200
million
has
been
approved.
There's
about
50
million
left
in
we
had
in
mind
and
the
legislature
had
in
mind
the
prospects
of
supplementing
a
project
grant
where
the
cost
is
greater
than
the
out
county's
allocation
or
in
case
of
cost
escalations
which
we're
seeing
in
other
construction
projects.
G
G
So
next
one
yeah,
that's
all
right
next
round
call
for
projects
starting
in
july.
I
think
it
is
july
so
soon,
based
on
local
consensus.
What
that
means
is
the,
as
the
chairman
said,
the
allocations
have
a
by
county
by
population,
and
so
so
the
so
the
special
districts
in
those
locations
come
together
with
the
local
elected
officials
and
and
decide.
G
You
know
what
are
the
projects
they're
going
to
seek
to
be
awarded
from
these
funds
from
the
capped
amount
that
they
have
within
their
county,
and
so
it
fits
right
in
with
our
long-standing
water
resources,
information
system,
the
role
of
their
development
districts,
our
the
participation
of
our
division
of
water
in
the
energy
and
environment
cabinet
a
well
you
know
a
very
experienced
and
known
and
understood
process.
G
So
one
of
the
suggestions,
let
me
go
back
just
a
minute
because
one
of
the
suggestions
that
sandy
and
her
folks
the
infrastructure
authority
say
that
round
two
funding.
You
know
suggestion
here
that
be
provided
to
round
run
projects
that
didn't
receive
full
funding
in
round
one
before
adding
new,
partially
funded
projects,
we're
just
making
available
to
the
counties
and
the
locals
that's
possible
right.
G
They
get
to
choose
which
projects
they're
going
to
seek
funding
for
and
the
list
of
funding
availability
by
county
is
is
on
the
kia
website,
kia.ky.gov
easily
found
next,
and
so
how
will
they
apply?
They'll
use
the
water
resource
information
system,
project
profile
information
as
the
application
everyone's
well
acquainted
with
that
part
of
the
process
they
coordinate.
You
know
with
the
area
development
district,
their
water
management
councils
and
the
coordinators
there
you
know,
help
utilities
complete
the
project
profile
and
and
how
to
go
through
the
details
of
of
the
application.
G
You
know
for
this
next
round
of
funding,
so
you
know
working
through
with
the
area
development
districts,
communicating
with
elected
officials
and
utility
managers.
You
know
the
governor
talks
to
the
county,
judges
and
and
the
mayors
frequently
at
least
once
a
month.
We
continue
to
advertise
this,
this
pot
of
funds
and
the
in
the
in
the
availability
of
them
and
the
purposes
of
them
and
and
so
then
there's
a
project
approval
process.
That
is
a
kind
of
a
rolling
approval
process.
G
We
don't
have
a
competitive
process
here,
if
once
they
get
applications
and
there's
they're
sufficient
and
complete,
then
there's
an
approval
process
that
follows
that
followed
by
the
the
documentation's,
a
grant,
commitment,
letter
and
assistance
agreement,
and
then
projects
can
get
underway
and
completed,
and
so
the
you
know,
the
reimbursement
process,
for
example,
of
these
projects
are
similar
to
what
they
do
for
the
two
revolving
loan
funds
that
kia
administers
so
again
an
administrative
process
that
is
understood
and
known.
A
A
G
A
Have
any
reasonable
estimate
of
how
short
that
will
be
on
target
or,
above
and
beyond
what
the
needs
are
in
the
commonwealth,
I'll.
C
So
the
we
were
about
three
times
over
subscribed
on
our
first
round
and
it
it
always
seems
that
there's
never
enough
funding.
We
we've
heard
that
and
with
the
price
escalations
that
that,
so
I
believe
there
will
always
be
a
need.
Yes,.
G
C
Here
the
projects
in
the
counties
that
involve
combining
of
water
and.
C
A
goal
within
this,
these
funding
to
try
to
merge
some
of
these
services.
That's
a
good
question.
Regionalization
of
services
is
always
considered,
and,
and
we
would
hope
that
the
utilities
would
give
consideration
to
that
and
when
they
participate
in
their
water
management
councils.
That's
one
of
the
things
they
discuss.
C
Just
real
quickly
is
there
any
funding,
headed
down
towards
marion,
to
help
with
the
crisis
they're
having.
G
Let
me
answer
that
question.
You
know
the
division
of
water
in
the
energy
environment,
cabinet
and
and
our
emergency
management
operation
have
been
working
with
local
officials
in
the
city
of
marion
to
determine
what
is
the
best
next
step
to
maintain
water
supply.
Then
what
is
a
permanent
step?
You
know
to
to
deal
with
that,
and
so
so
they're
kind
of
engineering
right
now
that
first
intermediate
step,
you
know
in
order
to
enable
a
water
supply
for
for
marion.
G
You
know
the
the
the
you
know,
part
of
that
effort
may
lead
to
a
need
for
some
state
funding
to
deal
with
that
emergency.
So
while
so,
we
haven't
gotten
to
that
point
yet
senator
carroll,
but
we're
moving
in
that
direction,
which
is
and
I'll
I'll
recount.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
for
being
here
today.
I'll
try
to
be
as
brief
as
I
can
you
know.
In
my
area
we
have
some
folks
who
do
not
have
good
clean
drinking
water
and
they're
paying
a
pretty
high
price
for
that.
But
in
addition
to
that,
I
wanted
you
know,
there's
an
area
that
that's
really
not.
I
see
your
about
coordinate
with
the
area.
B
You
know
air
development,
districts
and
elected
officials,
which
is
our
county
judges
and
utility
managements,
but
I
have
an
area:
that's
in
martin
county,
that
it's
really
they
need
a.
They
take
a
token
to
drive
down
to
get
water
and
they
pay
for
those
tokens.
I
understand
that
and
they
drive
down
to
get
water
to
bring
back
to
their
home.
B
Now
they
could
have
service
of
water
if
they
could
get
the
water
from
johnson
county,
but
at
the
same
time
they
they
need
a
pump
there
to
send
it
over
across
the
so
you
have
they're
and
they're
all
good.
The
elected
officials
are
the
county
judges.
The
the
water
district
committees
are
very
good,
but
somebody
needs
to
grab
the
bull
by
the
horn
and
say:
okay.
This
is
how
we're
going
to
fix
this
problem.
B
We
know
what
you
need
if
it's
being
a
pump
that
will
write
a
grant
for
it
doesn't
matter
who
gets
it
as
long
as
the
people
get
drinking
water
and
and
right
now
we
have
some
dire
need,
and
certainly
in
martin
county
and
parts
of
pine
county
that
does
not
have
water.
So
we're
talking
about
broadband,
all
those
services
they
need
those
too,
but
we're
talking
about
just
regular
drinking
water
that
we
take
so
much
for
granted.
Those
folks
don't
have
that.
A
Anything
else,
I'm
sure
hey
thank
y'all
very
much.
I
look
forward
to
great
things.
I
think
everybody
understands
that
now
now
now
as
fast
as
we
can
and
that's
like
everything
else,
but
this
one
in
particular
for
today
thank
y'all
very
much.
Thank
you.
I
would
encourage
everyone
to
review
the
correspondence
from
jenny
bannister,
a
deputy
director,
those
are
in
your
packet
interim
allotment
adjustments.
Emergency
appropriation
increases
interim
appropriation
revisions
for
the
first
quarter
of
2023.
A
It
is
invigorating
and
inspiring
reading.
I
would
encourage
everyone
to
partake
of
it
fully.
There
are
a
list
of
reports
received
since
june.
2022
looks
like
our
next
meeting
is
currently
scheduled
for
august
17,
2022
and
senator
chris
mcdaniel
will
have
the
chair.
That
day
will
have
a
great
meeting
ahead
of
us.
Last
but
not
least,
is
this:
a
packet
was
handed
out
to
you
from
kentucky
personnel
cabinet
that
was
presented
this
morning
in
a
budget
review
subcommittee
involvement
personnel.
A
This
is
a
culmination
of
efforts
since
july
7th
of
2022
to
address
personnel,
salary
schedules
and
compaction
and
compression
issues,
and
this
is
the
first
attempt
at
addressing
the
issue.
As
you
recall,
there
was
a
raise
granted
to
state
employees
this
last
budget
cycle,
with
anticipation
of
where
are
we
report
and
analysis
data?
How
do
we
adjust
and
what
actions
do
we
need
to
take
in
the
future?
A
This
is
at
least
a
first
step
to
get
us
toward
that
analysis,
and
I've
already
sent
an
invitation
to
the
personnel
cabinet
and
others
to
meet
with
me
in
the
next
14
days
and
as
well
as
senator
mcdaniel
and
anyone
else,
that's
on
board
senator
nemas
and
make
sure
that
we
all
know
how
we're
moving
forward
to
deal
with
personnel.
So
that
is
for
your
information
purposes
and
records.
Anyone
else
all
is
well.
We
are
adjourned.
Thank
y'all.