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A
Review
subcommittee
for
education
to
order,
we
have
a
very
full
agenda
this
morning.
This
is
meeting
number
five,
it's
hard
to
believe
that
the
interim
is
almost
over.
I
do
want
to
take
a
moment
and
introduce
a
new
staff.
Member
to
this
committee,
savannah
wiley
to
my
left,
is
working
with
us
on
this
committee
now
and
good
to
have
savannah
with
you
and
looking
forward
to
a
lot
of
great
discussions
going
forward
at
this
time.
I'll
ask
if
amy
could
call
the
roll.
B
A
President
in
the
room,
do
we
have
enough
members
for
quorum
at
this
time?
Members
you
should
have
had
a
copy
of
the
meetings
for
minutes
from
our
separate
september
24th
meeting
in
in
your
meeting
materials.
Do
I
hear
a
motion
on
the
minutes.
A
Sander
parrot,
I
believe,
a
second
by
representative
flood,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye.
All
opposed
no
motion
carries
our
first
item
on
the
agenda
this
morning.
I'll
explain
this
agenda
item
a
little
bit
over
the
time
I've
been
chair
last
five
years.
We've
had
this
presentation
a
couple
of
times
before,
but
you
know
people
come
to
us
and
they're
asking
us
for
appropriations.
A
Well,
just
as
important
are
things
that
we
can
do
as
a
legislature
to
help
allow
universities
to
be
more
efficient
to
reduce
their
cost.
So
I've
asked
that
for
if
the
presenters
will
come
forward
at
this
time,
ask
for
a
presentation.
We're
gonna
have
a
presentation
from
dr
thompson,
dr
mcfadden,
from
eku,
and
see
dr
frakers
at
the
table
as
well
on
the
on
some
things
that
suggestions
that
we
might
possibly
consider.
So
please
identify
yourself
for
the
record
and
proceed.
G
Thank
you
tipton
good
morning
committee,
good
to
see
everyone.
I
have
with
me
aaron
thompson,
president
of
the
council,
on
post-secondary
education.
I
have
with
me
to
my
left.
I
want
to
introduce
dr
jennifer
fraker,
who
is
now
the
lead
person
of
our
legislative
team
at
cpe
you're,
going
to
see
her
a
lot.
You
probably
are
familiar
with
her
from
her
many
days
in
the
kentucky
department
of
education
and
I'm
proud
to
say
I
stole
her
and
I'm
happy
about
that.
G
I'm
celebrating
that
so
she's
with
us
and
we
have
dr
david
mcfadden
who's
the
president
of
eastern
kentucky
university,
so
good
to
see
everyone
chair
tipton.
As
you
all
know,
we've
had
discussions
for
many
years
now
on
regulatory
and
statutory
relief
that
allows-
and
some
of
these
have
been
on
the
books
for
a
long
time.
As
you
all
know,
and
and
we're
bringing
to
you
today,
the
edition
number
two.
If
you
want
to
call
it
that,
but
but
a
while
back,
you
gave
us
some
relief
and
that
was
a
benefit
tremendously.
G
So
we're
bringing
to
you
a
few
other
items,
but
I'd
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
actually
say
that
we
want
to
report
a
little
bit
about
what
higher
education
has
done,
won't
go
in
great
detail.
I
think
you've
asked
us
to
come
back
at
a
later
date
to
go
in
greater
detail,
but
I
do
want
to
give
you
some
quick
updates
before
I
let
dr
mcfadden
take
over
and
present
the
regulatory
relief
you
know.
Kovit
has
been
rough
on
a
lot
of
folk.
Higher
education
is
no
different.
G
G
So
we
have
produced
less
positivity
rates
than
the
wider
community
and
we're
proud
of
that,
because
we
believe
that
the
most
important
way
of
thinking
about
what
we
do
is
to
make
sure
that
our
students
have
the
kind
of
academic,
social,
emotional
and
cultural
sort
of
opportunity
to
be
as
successful
as
they
can,
because
we
know
the
most
direct
relationship
to
a
good
economy
as
a
strong
educated
workforce,
and
so
I'm
proud
of
the
president's
agreeing
with
me
to
come
to
that
conclusion
and
we
have
been
fully
open.
We
haven't
closed
once.
G
We
have
may
have
gone
virtually,
but
we've
been
back
face
to
face.
Have
we
learned
a
lot
during
this
time?
Yes,
have
we
created
innova
innovation
as
we
were
going
along?
Yes,
do
we
have
more
innovation
to
create
based
on
what
we
are
getting
from
this
time?
Absolutely
so
we're
happy
to
be
here
with
you
today
to
talk
just
for
a
second
about
that
quickly.
G
I'll
just
tell
you
some
of
the
things
that
we've
done
in
the
last
few
years
and
once
again,
I
hope
you
do
bring
us
back
to
go
in
more
detail
and
last
three
years
we've
had
the
lloyd's
tuition
in
over
20
years,
actually
closer
to
30
years.
We've
made
tremendous
progress
toward
closing
the
gaps
in
higher
education
as
a
matter
of
fact
faster
than
almost
any
other
state,
if
not
faster
than
any
other
state.
A
G
You
know
once
again
getting
back:
we've
had
the
lowest
tuition
in
almost
30
years
and
we're
proud
of
that
and
we're
coming
in
significantly
below
the
last
three
years.
Even
the
inflation
rate,
I'm
proud
of
that
affordability
is
an
issue.
We
need
to
be
concerned
about
whether
it's
the
perception
of
affordability
or,
if
there's
real
issues
with
many
of
our
students,
especially
low
income
around
this
issue,
higher
ed,
has
taken
on
this
task
and
one
of
the
ways
they've
done.
G
This
is
truly
agreeing
to
a
low
tuition,
but
the
second
way
is
they've
increased
their
institutional
aid
tremendously,
and
we
down
the
road
will
show
you
a
slide
on
that
actually
outnumbering
much
of
the
state
aid
and
federal
aid
we've
also,
as
I
said,
made
big
improvements
in
gap
closing
in
areas
of
retention
graduation
in
areas
of
educational
attainment.
Over
the
last
few
years,
we've
had
about
a
17
and
a
half
percent
increase
in
educational
attainment
overall
and
as
an
example
about
a
37
percent
increase
in
our
underrepresented
minorities.
G
So,
as
I
said,
we're
proud
to
say
we're
closing
gaps
faster
than
any
state
or,
if
not
we're
at
the
top
with
others,
a
few
others,
our
stem
h
degrees
are
growing
at
unprecedented
rates
because
you
all
told
us
this
is
what
you
need.
You
told
us.
You
need
more
short-term
certificates
that
are
quality.
We
just
did
a
report
to
look
to
make
sure
we
had
quality
in
it.
G
Our
high
school
students
are
taking
more
dual
credits.
Chair
tipton.
This
has
been
a
conversation
that
you've
been
heavily
engaged
in
and
I'm
proud
to
say
that
we
are
aligning
our
dual
credit
with
degree
pathways.
You
saw
that
we
just
got
a
big
grant
to
do
purpose
first,
sort
of
advising
that
will
even
do
this
more,
but
this
has
been
a
75
increase
in
the
last
few
years
and
we're
proud
of
that
and
there's
a
lot
more.
We
can
do
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
you
in
order
to
do
that.
G
The
next
two
slides
I
won't
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
I'm
just
gonna.
You
can
look
at
it,
but
just
gives
you
an
example
of
how
we
have
reduced
tuition
increases
over
the
last
few
years
and
and
whenever
I
retire
whenever
that
may
be,
I'm
proud
to
say
that's
one
of
the
accomplishments
that
we've
been
able
to
put
forth
next
slide.
Please.
G
G
You
also
know
that
many
people
there
on
medicaid
or
on
snap
or
whatever
don't
have
a
college
credential.
Our
argument
is
fairly
simple
and
I
we
appreciate
the
budget.
You
gave
us
last
time
that
you
all
are
actually
finding
the
solution
here
when
you
talk
about
funding
higher
ed
and
performance
funding
in
other
ways,
as
well
as
with
dual
credit
and
some
of
the
other
things
we're
doing.
We
are
the
solution
to
much
of
the
problems
that
we
spend
a
lot
of
money
on
next
slide.
G
Please,
if
you
look
at
our
stem
h,
degree
growth.
This
is
tremendous.
We
got
a
lot
more
to
do
here
now.
I
want
to
be
clear
to
those
that
have
asked
me
when
I
presented
the
slide.
Do
we
still
think
that
the
arts
are
important?
My
son
is
a
great
artist.
I
would
ask
you
to
look
him
up
and
buy
his
work
please,
but
you
know,
of
course
not.
This
is
this
is
talking
about
a
holistic
picture,
but
we
are
needing
to
actually
increase
this
area.
G
Still
a
primary
area
we're
working
on
it
doesn't
mean
we're
demeaning
any
other
degree
or
any
other
program
by
no
stretch
of
the
imagination,
but
it
does
mean
that
we
have
I'm
the
chair
of
baptist
health
and
I
can
tell
you
we
can
use
about
750
nurses
now
if
you've
got
something
in
your
back
pocket,
I
mean
we've
got
to
do
a
better
job
of
increasing
this
area
and
we're
going
to
keep
working
on
that
next
slide.
Please!
G
So
I'm
going
to
let
president
mcfadden
take
over.
I
will
just
say
I
appreciate
chair
tipton
you're,
inviting
us
back
to
actually
talk
a
little
bit
about
this.
We
got
a
couple
of
big
items
on
here.
Many
are
small
items,
but
all
ottomans
make
a
difference.
Dr
dr
nick.
H
Thank
you,
dr
thompson.
Mr
chair,
it
is
good
to
be
with
you
today.
We
have
had
the
good
pleasure
to
work
together
for
many
years
now
on
a
multitude
of
different
initiatives
in
and
around
higher
education.
I
first
and
foremost
want
to
say
to
this
body
to
the
legislature.
Thank
you
for
your
support
of
higher
education.
H
We
have
seen
unprecedented
success
and
we
benefit
from
from
a
lot
of
support
from
this
body
in
order
to
do
that,
work.
Some
big
announcements
in
kentucky
over
the
last
few
weeks,
a
lot
of
opportunities,
a
very
bright
future
in
many
ways.
H
I
want
you
to
know
that,
on
behalf
of
my
colleagues,
that
our
public
institutions
stand
ready
to
power
that
workforce
for
what's
next
in
kentucky,
and
so
we
want
to
be
committed
to
being
a
part
of
that
solution,
and
many
times
I
was
in
an
event
a
few
weeks
ago
and
as
a
university
president,
it
doesn't
matter
what
question
you
perhaps
ask
a
policy
maker,
they
tend
to
answer.
H
Well,
we
wish
we
had
more
money,
and
this
is
one
of
those
opportunities
where
we
can
talk
about
something
other
than
money,
because
there
are
some
things
that
stand
in
the
way
of
doing
business
and
doing
business
more
effectively
more
efficiently
on
our
campuses,
and
so
these
are.
H
These
are
consensus,
recommendations
from
our
public
institutions
that
we
bring
forward
today
for
consideration,
as
we
think
about
moving
into
the
2022
legislative
session
and
what
we
would
consider
a
regulatory
relief
bill
for
higher
education.
First,
we'll
start
with
vendor
forms
we're
looking
to
modify
krs
45a
695,
to
eliminate
the
requirement
for
vendors
to
complete
and
sign
a
personal
services
contract
invoice.
Now
all
of
the
information
that
comes
on
this
document
is
already
provided
in
the
invoice.
That's
provided
to
the
institution.
H
It's
duplicative
and
in
many
ways,
slows
down
the
process
of
processing
that
so
it
has
to
come
here
and
come
through
that
process.
When
that
invoice
is
already
on
hand
with
all
the
necessary
information
that's
being
requested
there.
Next
student
ids,
we
would
modify
krs
61
931
6d.
H
This
was
a
bill
that
came
forward
a
few
years
ago
and
it
triggered
a
security
incident
unnecessarily,
since
our
student
ids
are
protected
against
the
misuse
of
personal
information
already.
So
this
was
a
personal
information
protection
bill
geared
around
social
security
numbers
geared
around
driver's
license
geared
around
some
of
those
specifics.
Unfortunately,
there
was
a
line
in
there
that
included
all
other
forms
of
identification
which
threw
student
ids
into
that.
We
would
ask
that
either
university
ids
be
exempted,
or
that
we
would
remove
that
catch-all
phrase
at
the
end
of
61-931-6d.
H
Next
comes
open
records,
we're
requesting
to
match
krs
61
880
language,
which
has
the
appeal
timeline
for
open
records,
requests
with
61
846
the
60-day
appeal
timeline
for
open
meetings.
The
problem
is
currently
there
is
no
timeline
for
this
for
this
appeal,
and
so
those
can
linger
on
forever,
and
so
we
would
ask
that
there
would.
We
would
institute
that
60
day
timeline
much
as
we
do
in
61.
846.
H
next
is
disposal
of
property.
This
is
a
conversation
we've
had
before,
and
we've
done
this
in
budget
bills
and
given
that
two-year
authority
to
return
that
real
property
sell
proceeds
to
the
funding
source,
we
were
asking
that
that
would
be
permanently
put
into
statute.
So
we
don't
have
to
ask
for
that
language
to
be
included
in
every
budget
bill,
as
our
universities
and
community
colleges
acquire
and
then
dispose
of
real
property.
H
Next
is
printing.
I
don't
know
how
many
of
you
know
this.
Many
of
you
may,
but
krs
57091
requires
the
governor's
signature
on
the
approval
of
all
state
printing
contracts.
So
if
we
print
pamphlets,
if
we
print
booklets,
if
we
do
anything
to
print
anything
in
our
campus
with
a
new
vendor,
it
requires
a
gubernatorial
signature.
H
As
you
can
imagine,
that
slows
down
the
process
and
in
many
times
we
sometimes
have
to
produce
things,
perhaps
for
this
body,
perhaps
for
others
in
a
more
timely
fashion,
and
we
feel
like
that,
our
ps,
our
personal
services
contracts
more
than
adequately
covers
the
the
acquisition
and
procurement
of
those
services.
H
Next
is
modifying
tuition
waivers.
There
are
still
many
tuition
waivers
out
there
benefiting
certain
affinity
groups
benefiting
even
some
of
our
own
employees
in
higher
education.
We're
asking
that
those
would
be
treated
as
last
dollar
in
scholarships,
meaning
that
students
who
participate
and
use
that
would
have
to
fill
out
the
fafsa
that
all
federal
and
estate
aid
would
be
applied
to
that
account
prior
to
the
institution.
Waiving
the
balance
of
their
attendance
at
our
institutions.
H
Next
is
lease
reporting
we're
asking
that
we
would
increase
the
threshold
on
capital,
leases
and
reporting
to
capital
projects
and
bond
oversight,
all
of
which
get
reported
from
a
hundred
thousand
to
two
hundred
thousand,
which
makes
this
consistent
with
the
language
that
is
in
the
biennial
budget,
as
it
is,
as
you
can
imagine,
some
of
our
capital
leases
whether
it
be
for
printing
services,
whether
it
be
for
temporary
spaces,
whether
it
be
for
other
services
that
we
do
off
of
our
campuses,
often
exceed
that
100
thousand
dollar
limit.
H
And
we
would
ask
that
we,
we
would
just
align
that
with
what
the
legislature
has
required
in
the
biennial
budget.
Reporting
next
comes
lease
terms:
we're
requesting
more
flexibility
on
lease
terms,
including
extending
the
number
of
optional
renewal
terms
and
also
allowing
the
universities
in
kctcs
to
waive
the
30-day
cancellation
requirement.
H
The
reason
being,
we
are
always
in
negotiation,
whether
it
be
with
a
software
vendor,
whether
it
be
in
in
real
property,
whether
it
be
in
the
the
required
the
the
work
we
do
with
student
success
initiatives,
whether
it
be
in
partnership
with
kctcs.
H
Often
that
30-day
wave
requirement
is
one
that
is
a
sticking
point
and
it's
always
something
that
gets
negotiated
either
in
or
out,
or
has
a
very,
very
steep
penalty
associated
with
it.
We're
asking
that
you
trust
us
to
make
good
decisions
on
having
the
ability
to
enter
into
those
contracts
that
don't
exceed
that
don't
exceed
the
normal
timeline,
but
would
allow
us
to
not
have
that
30-day
exemption
requirement
in
it
capital
projects.
We
raised
this
threshold,
I
think
about
seven
or
eight
years
ago,
a
bit.
H
I
think
at
one
point
in
time
that
was
a
250
thousand
dollar
limit.
We
raised
that
to
a
million
we're
asking
to
increase
the
capital
projects
and
bond
oversight
committee,
capital
project
reporting
threshold
for
public
institutions
from
1
million
to
2
to
2.5
million,
as
we
look
at
the
cost
of
doing
business
and
the
normal
activities
that
we
are
engaged
with.
H
There
is
a
lot
of
those
activities
that
easily
projects
small
projects
that
we
spend
our
own
funds
on
that
it's
hard
to
do
anything
on
a
university
campus
for
less
than
a
million
dollars
these
days.
So
we're
asking
to
raise
that
threshold
and
then
the
last
one
is
very,
very
important
to
us.
H
There
were
some
conversations
with
with
with
members
and
of
leadership
in
both
chambers
prior
to
the
special
session,
also
conversations
with
the
executive
branch,
but
we
are
currently
working
through
class-action
lawsuits
that
have
been
filed
against
all
of
our
public
institutions
in
kentucky,
as
it
relates
to
tuition
and
fees
that
were
that
were
levied
in
the
spring
of
2020.
H
We
have
seen
many
pick
up
this.
This
class
action
suit,
we're
defending
that,
as
in
amicus
brief
with
the
university
of
kentucky
who's
currently
in
court.
The
rest
of
us
have
not
entered
into
to
the
court
phase
of
that
yet,
but
we're
asking
for
some
immunity
protections
for
moving
from
face-to-face
to
virtual
instruction
for
that
period
of
time
and
we're
asking
for
retroactive
treatment
to
that.
As
part
of
this,
this
regulatory
relief
bill
that
also
includes
some
some
coven
19
immunity
for
our
public
institutions.
H
There
was
a
lot
done
by
the
general
assembly
to
support
our
small
businesses
and
many
of
our
other
operating
entities
as
it
relates
to
covet
immunity.
This
was
something
that
did
not
make
it
into
that
in
the
in
the
2021
general
assembly
and
also
was
not
part
of
the
special
session
call
here
just
recently.
I
think
that
wraps
up
our
regulatory
relief
measures
and
mr
chair
I'd
take
any
questions
and
I'm
sure
dr
thompson
would
as
well
well.
A
Thank
you,
president
mcfadden,
and
you
kind
of
maybe
answered
the
first
question
I
had
and
that's
and
that's
about
senate
bill
5,
which
passed
in
the
2021
session,
was
extended
in
the
special
session.
So
basically
what
and
I'm
not
an
attorney
so
I'll
I'll
defer,
maybe
to
somebody
who
has
more
expertise
on
this.
So
what
you're
saying
is
the
the
the
liability
protections
offer
in
senate
bill?
Five
are
not
covering
universities
like
in
these
class
action
lawsuits,
yeah.
H
This
was
about
delivery
of
services,
not
health
and
safety,
and
well-being
of
the
individuals
who
perhaps
were
consuming
the
services
so
yeah.
We
would
need
some
additional
here,
and
this
is
a
national
phenomenon
that
has
happened
and,
and
we
we
definitely
want
to
protect
our
public
institutions
in
this
setting.
All
of
us
put
our
best
foot
forward
made
that
transition
to
virtual
instruction
in
in
the
spring
of
2020,
and
we
all.
E
H
Back
to
face-to-face
instruction
in
the
fall
of
2020,
so
everyone
did
their
level
best
to
manage
something
that
there's
no
playbook.
For
so.
A
One
other
question
I
have,
then
we
have
some
questions
from
members.
Could
you
expand
a
little
bit
on
the
two
issue?
The
tuition
waiver
issue
explain
to
the
members
that
may
not
be
aware
how
that
works,
who
pays
the
cost
and
and
what
type
maybe
examples
of
what
some
of
these
waivers
are.
H
Absolutely
so,
there
are
currently
a
number
of
waivers
that
are
on
the
the
statutes
waiving
tuition
fees
for
the
children
of
deceased
first
responders,
waiving
tuition
and
fees
for
some
who
come
from
our
foster
system,
waiving
tuition
and
fees
for
some
who
work
in
certain
professions
like
technical
education,
and
so
there
are
a
number
of
these
that
are
on
the
books.
They
are
unfunded,
mandates,
meaning
that
the
universities
front
the
bill
to
cover
the
entire
cost
for
those
individuals
to
pursue
education
opportunity
on
our
campuses.
H
For
us.
What
we're
asking
here
is
that
we're
st
we
still
want
to
do
that,
but
we're
simply
asking
that
those
dollars
we
put
in
to
cover
that
would
be
the
last
dollars
that
would
go
in
meaning
that
the
individual
would
apply
for
fafsa
that
they
would
apply
and
use
their
seek
dollars.
They
would
or
they
they
would
use
their
their
seek
dollars.
They
would
not
seek
their
keys
dollars,
sorry,
wrong,
wrong
keys
and
and
and
cap
and
kdg,
and
then,
of
course,
pel
and
any
other
federal
awards.
H
And
then
we
would
bring
in
the
balance
of
that
to
cover
because
many
end
up
not
applying
for
anything,
because
they
know
that
their
tuition
and
fees
are
free.
So.
B
H
A
I
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
dr
thompson,
veteran
fan.
Thank
you
all
very
much
for
coming
here.
You
always
always
gives
really
good
information.
I
appreciate
the
the
tour
down
at
eku
and
going
through
the
aviation
center
really
enlightened
me,
and
I
really
appreciate
all
the
efforts
y'all
putting
gentlemen
cajon
y'all,
give
me
sort
of
an
idea
of
what
the
universities
have
in
play
in
terms
of
cost
containment
measures
and
managing
the
assets.
H
Yeah,
I
think
that
you
know
from
a
practical
standpoint
on
our
campuses.
You
know
we're
always
evaluating
the
efficacy
of
the
contracts
that
we
have
for
services,
our
quality
protocols,
our
qos
for
those
who
come
in
and
provide
deferred
maintenance
services
who
do
everything
from
you
know,
facilities
to
to
to
landscaping
to
even
our
quality
controls
for
how
we
process
financial
aid,
and
so
you
know
we.
H
I
feel
like
that
in
looking
over
the
last
decade,
as
dr
thompson
has
indicated,
is
we
we're
keeping
tuition
really
low
across
you
know
across
our
institutions
we
also
have
seen
some
fairly
lean
times
as
a
state,
as
we've
seen
other
things
push
in
on
the
state
budget
from
you
know,
k-12
needs
to
pensions,
to
corrections
to
medicaid,
and
so
we've
we've
done
more
with
less.
H
So
I
think
all
of
us
are
are
focused
every
day
on
on
delivering
on
that
promise
of
being
good
stewards
of
those
invested
dollars
both
by
the
students
and
and
by
the
state,
and
you
know
obviously
with
these
are
big
enterprises
we're.
H
We
are
in
charge
of
the
health
and
well-being
for
us
of
over
four
thousand
students
who
live
on
our
campus,
another
ten
thousand,
who
who
frequent
the
main
campus
every
day,
and
so
we
we
strive
every
day
for
those
efficiencies
that
we
can
find
and
we've
brought
forth
one
regulatory
relief
bill
that
we
passed,
which
helped
immensely
a
couple
of
years
ago.
G
And
I
want
to
add
one
piece
to
that.
I
know
this
wasn't
exactly
the
question
representative
libman,
but
I'm
going
to
go
with
it
a
little
bit
and
say
our
students
probably
are
our
most
important
asset.
So
one
of
the
things
we've
done
in
conjunction
with
our
campuses,
we've
asked
them
to
increase
their
mental
health
care.
We've
asked
them.
Do
promise
programs
allow
low
income
to
come
in
with
last
dollar
in
to
pay
nothing.
G
So
I
I
would
argue,
in
addition
to
the
more
solid
physical
assets,
the
idea
that
we're
also
looking
at
what
resources
we
can
save
on
these
contracts.
We
want
to
put
it
back
into
student
services
and
that's
the
kind
of
relationship
we've
been
able
to
develop
with
the
campuses
to
ensure
that
they
do
that.
I
Well,
I
I
concur,
I
mean
I
look
at
you
all,
as
basically
a
small
or
medium-sized
business
owner
I
mean
you've
got
a
people
process
and
a
product
or
service
and
those
three
elements
really
gotta
work
in
tam
in
order
to
provide
the
best
ultimate
service
to
your
and
product
to
your
to
your
customers
and
your
customers
or
your
students.
I
I
H
And
I'll
also
give
cpe
a
lot
of
credit,
as,
as
dr
thompson
is
kind
of
taking
the
helm
there.
We
continue
to
collaborate
to
look
at
seeing
how
do
we
get
leverage
all
of
our
institutions
together
and
finding
those
those
efficiencies
and
those
opportunities
to
bring
services
to
the
to
the
forefront
that
serve
our
students
first,
but
also
make
the
best
use
of
of
our
investment
from
the
state.
G
Well,
we
look
forward
to
it
and
once
again
we
do
appreciate
the
support
of
higher.
Yet
I
know
we
are
not
talking
budget
now,
but
we
do
have
a
budget
coming
up.
Representative
mccool
knows
that
we'll
be
asking
for
some
support
there
too.
So
thank
you
all
very
much
all
right.
A
Thank
y'all
very
well.
Our
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
a
presentation
from
kentucky
state
university.
A
So
if
those
presenters
will
come
forward
and
before
they
begin,
I
would
like
to
welcome
representative,
graham
to
her
meeting
today
after
a
meeting
with
the
speaker
last
week
and
understanding
the
issues
that
kentucky
state
is
going
free
right
now,
we
felt
like
it
was
very
prudent,
since
representative
graham
represents
the
area
of
kentucky
state
to
have
his
knowledge
and
expertise
on
board,
so
we're
glad
to
have
representative,
graham
with
us,
as
we
navigate
through
this
and
we're
just
asking
for
a
lot.
A
A
lot
of
the
presentation
I
asked
for
today
is
about
the
demographics
of
the
students
and
the
programs
that
are
offered
at
kentucky
state.
I
felt
like
it
would
be
very
important
for
the
members
to
have
a
good
feel
for
what's
going
on,
what's
been
accomplished
and
where
you're
trying
to
go
as
well
as
an
update
on
your
financial
situation.
So
if
everyone
would
please
introduce
yourself
for
the
record
and
then
proceed
with
the
presentation.
J
C
A
C
J
Well
again,
good
morning,
everyone
next
slide
greg
hit
the
next
slide,
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
to
you.
Today.
In
july,
university
staff
alerted
the
board
of
regents
of
some
financial
concerns
at
kentucky
state
university
totaling
over
15
million
dollars.
The
board
took
that
information
and
informed
cpe
and
the
governor's
office
and
their
response
resulted
in
a
leadership
transition
at
kentucky
state
on
july
20th
naming
me
as
acting
president
and
greg
rush
as
the
vice
president
for
finance
and
administration
and
cfo.
J
We
had
a
short
period
of
time
to
ready
our
campus
for
the
influx
of
students
next
slide
greg
and
for
a
faculty
returning
to
campus.
For
the
first
time
for
face-to-face
instruction.
Since
covet
19.
fall
encampment,
we
invited
industry
experts
to
campus
to
focus
our
conversations
around
our
culture
change
and
issues
management.
We
made
a
commitment
as
a
campus
community
to
work
in
partnership
and
transparency.
J
J
As
you
all
know,
kentucky
state
maintains
two
federal
designations.
One
is
a
historically
black
college
and
university
and
another
as
an
1890
land-grant
institution
hbcus
were
established
before
the
civil
rights
act
of
1964
and
gave
these
institutions
the
ability
to
educate
african-american
populations.
There
are
currently
101
hbcus
in
our
nation.
Kentucky
state
is
an
1890
land-grant
institution,
maintaining
the
same
legal
standing
as
the
1862
institutions.
As
you
know,
uk
is
our
fellow
land-grant
institution
in
the
state.
We
have
the
same
legal
standing.
J
This
is
extremely
important.
Kentucky
state
universities
offers
more
than
60
degree
programs.
Why
is
this
so
important?
Historically,
hbcus
are
known
for
educating
african
americans
in
a
wide
range
of
professions,
including
law,
medicine
and
stem
on
monday
night.
This
is
homecoming
week
at
kentucky
state
university
creed,
the
center
for
the
research
on
the
eradication
of
educational
disparities.
He
hosted
a
number
of
alumni.
J
We
had
over
a
hundred
alumni
on
the
line
from
judges,
lawyers,
doctors,
pharmacists
speaking
to
our
students,
about
their
time
in
frankfort,
on
the
college
at
the
hill
and
what
kentucky
state
meant
to
them.
Most
impactful
for
our
students
were
those
individuals
serving
as
doctors
who
said
kentucky
state
university
gave
them
a
second
chance,
so
kentucky
state
offers
associate
to
the
doctorate
of
nursing
practice
degrees.
J
Some
of
our
top
majors
at
kentucky
state
university
you'll
see
nursing,
is
in
the
top
five
bachelors
in
nursing
and
our
associate
degree
in
nursing,
rounded
out
by
business
administration,
psychology
and
criminal
justice.
Our
top
graduate
programs
include
business
administration,
public
administration,
the
doctorate
in
nursing
practice
and
a
master
in
environmental
studies
and
our
masters
in
special
education.
J
Our
current
class
of
2021,
nearly
57
percent,
our
ksu
undergraduates,
are
kentucky
residents.
I
know
this
is
extremely
important
and
so
wanted
to
point
out
that
57
of
this
current
class
come
from
kentucky
counties.
33
percent
of
our
students
will
be
the
first
in
their
families
to
earn
a
college
degree.
76
of
our
previous
graduating
class
were
either
first-gen,
low-income
or
both
and
54
of
our
graduates
are
employed
in
kentucky
after
three
years
of
graduation.
J
We
have
477
of
our
undergraduate
class
our
first
year
and
596
of
those
are
new
students.
We
have
119
transfer
students
and
144
graduate
students,
473
dual
credit
enrolled
students,
as
well
as
over
1600
continuing
students,
again
57
percent,
our
kentucky
residents,
the
top
ten
represented
counties,
are
listed
for
you
with
jefferson
franklin
and
fayette
leading
the
way,
and
we
also
have
listed
our
top
high
schools.
J
Now
this
is
extremely
important
and
speaks
to
the
mission
of
kentucky
state
university.
82
percent
of
this
undergraduate
class
is
pell
recipients.
That
means
that
they
receive
no
financial
support
from
their
family.
Our
fall
to
fall
retention
rate
is
at
an
all-time
high
of
70
percent.
This
is
extremely
important.
It
speaks
to
the
resources
that
kentucky
state
has
wrapped
around
as
students
to
ensure
their
success
from
university
college,
holding
tuition
steady
for
our
incoming
freshman
class
and
making
sure
that
the
students
have
tutoring
in
the
thoroughbred
learning
centers
to
help
them
achieve
their
academic
outcomes.
J
J
J
B
A
From
senator
parrot,
maybe
on
this
portion.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
president
stamps
welcome
and
my
question
is
as
a
land
grant
university.
Are
you
still
working
with
the
regional
small
farmers
in
this
in
this
area,
and
I.
H
J
E
A
J
A
I
knew
I
knew
it
was
a
substantial
improvement
and
in
prison
stamps.
I
just
want
to
say
you
have
been
placed
in
a
very
challenging
situation
and
I
appreciate
you
taking
that
on
one
other
question
you
mentioned
the
dual
credit:
could
you
share
a
little
bit
with
the
committee,
the
relationship
that
ksu
has
with
frankfurt,
independent
schools
on
that
and
how
that
works?.
J
Oh,
we
have
a
great
relationship
with
them.
We
have.
We
have
our
professors
going
into
their
schools,
teaching
their
students.
We
we
have
students
who
are
graduating
with
an
associate
degree,
and
we
did
enroll
some
of
our
dual
and
credit
students
into
this
current
class,
and
so
we
have
a
great
working
relationship
with
them.
Okay,
thank
you.
G
I
I
would
add
one
more
thing
when
I
was
there
in
2016,
we
set
up
that
relationship
with
frankfurt
independent
and
we
even
have
students
in
the
9th
and
10th
grade
working
in
some
of
our
horticultural
agricultural
areas
and
those
cte
related
dual
credit
courses,
and
you
may
remember,
we
were
highlighted
that
year
by
governor
bevin,
with
some
of
our
students
doing
this.
So
it's
been
a
very
progressive
dual
credit
way
of
aligning
truly
to
the
outcomes
that
we
wanted.
Those
students
to
have
and
hopefully
come
to
ksu
in
the.
A
K
Yes,
sir,
I
want
to
just
kind
of
give
an
overview
real
quickly
and
and
greg.
I
know
that
you
are
a
product
of
lrc
and
yes
appreciate
you
coming
aboard
and
working
with
the
university,
I'm
a
graduate
of
the
university,
a
proud
director
of
a
1980
graduate,
but
I'm
also
a
second
generation
graduate
of
kentucky
state.
My
mother
and
her
brother.
K
Both
graduated
both
were
very
successful
people,
my
brother
and
sister,
and
I
all
graduated
from
the
university
we've
been
very
successful
people
and
I
just
wanted
to
just
kind
of
go
down
and
pass
if
I
could
have
chairman
of
just
the
history
of
what
kentucky
state
has
done,
not
only
for
the
people
of
frankfort
franklin
county,
but
for
his
commonwealth.
When
I
arrived
here
in
2003,
there
were
five
of
us
from
who
were
people
of
color,
of
which
jesse
crenshaw
arnold
fenson,
myself
gerald
neal.
K
We
all
are
graduates
of
kentucky
state
university.
Senator
tom
thomas
is
not
a
graduate,
but
he's
a
professor
there,
but
what
people
don't
understand
is
that
his
mother
and
my
mother
were
classmates
and
best
friends
and
roommates
and
senator
thomas's
grandfather
was
in
the
administration.
K
I
think
he
was
dean
of
men
at
one
time,
so
that
university
has
made
connections
not
only
across
the
commonwealth
but
across
the
country,
but
you
just
kind
of
show
my
colleagues
how
important
that
university
has
been
not
only
to
me,
but
the
leadership
that
they've
provided
and
one
thing
that
you
haven't
talked
about.
I
think
real
is
about
the
aquaculture.
K
Years
ago,
the
director
of
the
the
program,
our
center
program,
was
recruited
by
the
republic
of
ireland
to
come
there
to
boost
their
aqua
culture
program
and
at
the
time
I
I
was
still
teaching
the
students
were
at
frankfurt
with
me
and
he
did
not
take
the
position
for
two
number
one.
He
enjoyed
what
he
had
done
and
have
done
for
the
university,
but
also
these
kids
for
fighting
against.
K
It
was
an
opportunity
for
people
to
make
a
whole
lot
more
money.
But
if
you've
got
universities
who
are
wanting
to
to
to
copy
what
we've
done
so
that
investment
in
that
program
has
really
made
the
university
a
worldwide
center.
In
terms
of
the
experience
and
the
information
that
they
have
gathered
in
research
and
that
other
universities
around
the
state
have
talked
about
trying
to
to
to
implement
that,
and
not
only
that.
K
I
first
got
here
with
the
legislature
from
the
left
red
west,
who
made
me
knowledgeable
about
the
research
that
they
were
doing
with
the
aquaculture.
That
was
helping
farmers
in
the
west
for
transition
from
tobacco
to
growing
minerals
and
growing
materials.
That
could
help
with
the
off
the
center
and
kentucky
state
in
terms
of
providing
food.
K
So
the
university
expands
beyond
the
one
thing
that
it
has,
that
people
don't
understand.
Many
of
those
outside
students
coming
to
the
university
are
really
native
contestants.
It
was
because
their
families
could
not
stay
here
after
they
were
educated
and
so
their
parents
who
were
business.
People
who
were
teachers
were
doctors.
K
They
had
to
go
somewhere
else,
primarily
to
go
to
med
school,
or
once
they
finished
med
school.
They
could
not
come
back
because
they
got
a
job,
but
it
was
a.
It
was
a
a
method
by
which
they
would
send
their
children.
They
would
send
children
that
they
called.
So
it
is
not
something
that
outsiders
are
coming
into.
These
are
people
who
are
named
conducting.
K
In
education,
such
as
in
the
business
opportunities
which
you
can
talk
about,
you've
got
to
focus
on
on
doing
those
things,
but
in
order
to
focus
and
build
upon
that
to
modernize
we're
going
to
have
to
receive
the
funding
that
we
really
need-
and
I
don't
think
many
of
my
colleagues
understand
that
by
us
being
an
hbcu,
a
land
grant.
K
But
I
think
that
what
we're
doing
I
think
you
are
working
with
the
university
very
closely.
I
know
greg
rush
because
he
is
a
product
here
at
lr.
K
So
I
thank
all
of
you
for
the
challenges
that
you're
taking
to
all,
but
we've
all
worked
upward
that
his
development
is
on.
So
thank
you
all
so
much
and
I'll.
Let
him
continue
chairman
and
I
thank
you
for
bringing
me
in
and
asking
you
to
serve
for
the
time
being,
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
and
looking.
C
So
much
go
ahead
and
proceed
greg
just
to
make
a
couple
of
follow-up
comments
on
on
what
representative
graham
mentioned.
I
think
he
had
lost.
Sometimes
that-
and
I
don't
know
the
specific
statistic
here,
but
the
majority
of
african-american
doctors,
lawyers,
dentist
professionals
came
out
of
hbcus
and
I
think
it's
important
to
keep
that
in
mind
and
also
there
is
a
lag
in
national
reporting
on
graduation
rates.
C
But
if
you
look
at
the
37
percent
graduation
rate
that
you
see
right
now,
that
would
put
in
two
years
ago
that
would
have
put
ksu
and
about
number
five
in
the
country.
So
I
think
that's
important
to
acknowledge
as
well.
Now
those
rates
move
a
little
bit
every
year.
So
by
the
time
we
see
the
21
numbers
it
may
be
somewhere
up
or
down
from
that.
But
but
it's
a
pretty
sig.
It's
a
it's
a
tremendously
significant
improvement
over
the
past
five
years.
C
C
And
then,
as
president
stamps
mentioned,
we
we
took
a
number
of
actions,
hiring
freezes,
freeze
on
non-essential,
travel
and,
and
the
university
still
does
some
travel.
We
have
students
to
support,
we
have
athletic
events,
we're
contracted
with,
but
non-essential
travel
has
been
frozen,
froze
procurement
cards
and
we
began
to
realign
personnel,
and
she
mentioned
earlier
that
we've
got
about
800
000
in
reductions
to
date.
C
On
payroll,
the
what
we
found
initially
was
a
lot
of
bills
that
had
been
carried
forward
from
prior
years
and
basically
in
late
2019,
their
the
university
began
to
have
a
cash
problem
and
began
to
take
some
actions
to
manage
that
problem,
which
pushed
it
forward
into
future
fiscal
years.
To
be
perfectly
honest,
there's
a
process
with
the
state
construction
accounts
where
the
division
of
contract
engineering
contract
administration
within
the
finance
cabinet
manages
construction
projects
for
kentucky
state
and
they
will
they'll
manage
the
project.
They'll
pay
the
bill.
C
The
invoice
will
come
to
the
university
they'll
and
then
will
be
reimbursed
by
the
university
from
whatever
fund
source
funded
the
project
university
funds,
federal
funds,
whatever
again
beginning
in
19
they
those
reimbursements
to
the
state
stopped,
and
that
has
now
totaled
about
5.2
million,
that
the
university
owes
the
state
for
those
construction
accounts
about
4.3
million
of
old
year
invoices
carried
forward
into
the
current
fiscal
year
and
there
was
a
revenue
anticipation
note,
which
is
a
working
capital
tool.
That's
not
unusual
for
school
districts
to
use
and,
and
some
universities
use
them.
C
C
That's
a
fee
paid
by
all
students,
it's
about
300
a
student
per
year
roughly,
and
that
those
monies
have
to
be
reserved
for
asset
preservation
projects
either
for
the
project
themselves
or
for
debt
service
related
to
those
projects,
and
those
receipts
were
not
reserved
from
19
through
21
as
they
needed
to
be.
So
that's
an
obligation
that
the
university's
budget
has
to
to
that
fund
within
the
university,
so
the
revenues
go
for
the
appropriate
purpose.
C
C
We
now
think
that
deficits
between
five
and
seven
million
for
the
current
year
and
we're
all
committed
to
getting
the
university's
budget
back
in
line,
but
given
the
commitments
we
have
to
faculty
contracts
and
other
contracts
that
the
university
is
committed
to
and
an
effort
to
make
sure
we're
providing
appropriate
services
to
the
over
2000
students
that
we're
serving
right
now
we're
we're
moving
methodically
in
approaching
this
budget
challenge.
We
we
don't
want
to
disrupt
students,
education
and
a
number
of
our
our
partners
that
we're
working
with
both
in
the
legislature
and
the
cpe.
C
And
I
think
that
process
is
is
working
well
right
now
and
we're
being
completely
transparent
on
all
financial
issues,
with
both
the
board
and
with
cpe
and
with
you
all
and
part
of
the
thing
in
making
sure
the
board
has
the
information
they
need
to
make
decisions
on
behalf
of
the
university
we're
working
with
cpe
to
restructure
the
university's
budget
where
it's
it
make
it's
clearer
and
it's
easier
for
folks
to
follow.
C
Our
current
budget
structure
lumps
a
lot
of
things
into
one
pot,
and
so
it's
not
often
easy
to
see
where
those
funds
should
be
dedicated
and
how
they
should
be
used.
So
we're
developing
new
budget
structure,
with
with
the
guidance
from
cpe
to
separate
these
budgets
out.
So
it's
clear
for
the
board
to
see
how
much
is
being
spent
on
kind
of
the
education
piece
of
the
budget.
What
do
we
spend
on
auxiliaries,
which
is
our
residence
halls
and
food
service
and
those
ideas?
C
So
if
a
decision
is
made
to
take
funds
from
the
auxiliary
budget,
that
could
be
used
long
term
to
maintain
residence
halls
and
move
to
another
activity
of
the
university
that
needs
to
be
transparent,
and
that
needs
to
be
a
decision
that
the
board's
fully
aware
of
the
implications
of
making
that
decision
and
part
of
this
is
we're
we're
restructuring
what
the
board
receives
at
each
meeting
and
some
of
these
I
think
some
of
these
items,
I
would
recommend
the
board
always
receive,
and
some
of
them
are
probably
until
we
get
through
the
next
couple
years.
C
But
one
of
them
is
our
cash
position
compared
to
prior
year.
So
the
board
knows
every
meeting
the
the
cash
that
the
university
has
available,
how
that
compares
to
prior
years-
and
then
it'll
be
my
job
to
explain
why
and
and
where
we
are
an
aging
schedule
of
payables
that
the
issue
with
the
the
four
million
in
rev
in
bills
that
carried
forward
from
the
old
year.
C
I
don't
believe
the
board
was
particularly
aware
of
that,
and
I
think
that's
been
an
issue
for
a
couple
years,
and
so
it's
important
that
we
show
them
where
we
are
each
board
meeting
on
vendors,
because
also
this
is
a
relationship
issue
within
the
community
within
the
vendor
community
that
we
work
with
and
and
basically
you
got
to
pay
your
bills
and
we
have
to
pay
them
on
time
and
we
have
to
show
that
we
are
accounts
receivable.
C
You
know,
we've
got
a
little
bit
later
here
in
our
presentation,
we're
going
to
talk
about
student
accounts
receivable
and
that's
something
that
the
board
needs
to
see
every
meeting
and
be
aware
of
that
as
well,
and
they
also
now
receive
reports
on
personnel
actions,
separations,
hiring
salary
changes,
those
kind
of
things
so
they're
aware.
What's
going
on
and
we're
continually
working
with
the
council
on
this,
will
this
packet
will
be
supplemented
with
a
number
of
additional
reports,
we're
working
with
them
on,
what's
most
appropriate,
most
useful?
C
They
have
someone
that
they've
brought
in
susan
krauss
who's.
A
former
treasurer
of
the
university
of
kentucky
she's
been
incredibly
helpful
as
we've
gone
through
this
process.
She
has
a
wealth
of
knowledge
on
on
this
type
of
issue
and
has
been
extremely
helpful
for
us
and
will
continue
to
work
with
her
and
with
council
staff
on
getting
this
information
that
the
board
needs
in
a
in
a
verifiable
way
that,
with
that
the
board
members
can
have
confidence
in
brief
update
on
our
residence
hall,
this
was
approved.
C
This
is
a
p3
project,
so
it's
a
public
private
partnership
with
crm,
who
is
the
same
company
that
built
the
building
on
sauer
boulevard
for
the
state
and
the
mayo
underwood
building
down
next
to
the
transportation
cabinet
downtown,
and
this
project
was
approved
by
the
capital
projects
and
bond
oversight
committee
in
april
construction
is
well
underway.
We're
on
track
for
completion
in
january
of
23.
C
financing
was
sold
on
july
27th
for
the
project.
The
interest
cost
was
3.11,
which
was
less
than
what
the
consultants
had
estimated
in
april.
C
The
sale
was
not
rated
by
moody's,
partly
because
the
the
intercept
provision
in
statute,
I
think
a
determination
was
made
that
that
doesn't
apply
to
p3
projects,
or
at
least
one
structured
like
this,
and
so
we
worked
with
the
finance
cabinet
to
put
a
memorandum
of
agreement
in
place
that
replicates
the
statutory
intercept
provision,
but
it
was
still
felt,
I
believe,
by
moody's
that
it
wasn't
advantageous
to
rate.
So
we,
the
the
issue,
was
insured
by
an
insurer
which
managed
to
bring
the
rate
the
interest
rate
down.
C
First,
lease
payment
will
be
due
in
march
of
24.
it'll,
be
an
annual
payment
of
just
under
3.8
million.
Our
projected
semester
rates
are
approximately
4
600
per
bed-
that's
high
for
us,
but
it's
comparable
with
the
residence
halls,
particularly
the
newer
residence
halls
at
some
of
the
other
kentucky
universities,
and
now
we've
been
asked
to
provide
information
on
a
couple
of
things.
I'll
go
through
here.
C
One
is
student
balances,
and
that
is
a
that
number
moves
every
day
because
as
financial
aids
applied
as
students
pay
bills
or
make
payments
on
payment
plans,
so
we
thought
the
clearest
thing
was
to
pick
a
point
in
time
and
show
you
the
trend
over
the
past
10
years.
For
that
point,
and
so
we
chose
the
last
week
of
september,
financial,
a
lot
of
financial
aid
has
typically
been
applied
by
then.
So
it's
a
pretty
good
time
to
to
look
at
this,
although
the
number
will
continue
to
decline.
C
Typically
over
the
semester,
a
student
makes
as
students
make
payments.
You
can
see
that,
prior
to
president
bursa's
arrival,
he
came
in
14,
the
balances
had
had
risen
significantly
and
the
outstanding,
and
these
are
balances
of
enrolled
students
currently
enrolled
students.
C
So
they
were
approaching
5
million
dollars
and
13
that
dropped
dramatically
in
14
and
15
and
began
to
increase
a
little
bit
at
16,
because
we
took
a
different
philosophy
in
managing
student
accounts
and
we
took
more
chances
on
students
that
we
felt
had
a
financial
path
if
we
gave
them
until
the
end
of
the
semester
to
work
through
that.
C
We
we
have
begun
to
bend
that
curve
down
a
bit,
and
one
of
the
things
we'll
talk
about
when
we
talk
about
her
funding
is
one
of
the
things
that
was
allowed
with
the
federal
funding
that
we've
received
for
a
covet
relief
is
the
ability
to
pay
down
student
balances
that
were
incurred
from
spring
of
20
through
the
end
of
last
summer,
and
the
the
philosophy
behind
that
is.
There
were
a
lot
of
financial
challenges
for
our
students
during
covid,
and
the
federal
government
has
allowed
us
to
essentially
pay
those
balances
down.
C
That
was
done
first
week
of
august
and
we
were
able
to
satisfy
about
2.5
million
in
unpaid
student
balances
benefited
the
students,
because
the
idea
was
that
it
would
make
it
easier
for
us
to
keep
students
in
and
allow
students
to
progress,
and
I
think
that's
been
true,
and
it
also
worked
to
reduce
balances
overall
and
the
second
chart
are
the
average
balances
by
student.
So
we've
again
begun
to
bend
that
curve
down.
C
That
typically
takes
a
couple
of
semesters
of
working
with
students
and
setting
expectations,
and
we,
we
believe
we'll
continue
to
make
progress
on
this
over
the
next
year,
you'd
ask
for
an
update
on
the
higher
education
emergency
relief
funds.
These
are
the
known
the
cares
act
and
the
university
has
received
about
27
million
dollars.
In
cares
act
funding.
C
There
are
significant
limitations
on
that
funding.
A
significant
portion
about
four
and
a
half
million
goes
directly
to
students.
We
are
behind
in
getting
the
first
two
pots
of
that.
The
first
pot
went
out
on
time.
The
second
pot
did
not
and
we're
actually
working
to
get
it
out
along
with
the
the
third
allotment
of
money
that
we
received
a
few
months
ago
and
get
all
those
out
next
week
actually,
and
then
that
will
have
satisfied
all
our
requirements
and
the
third
tranche
of
funding
is,
is
still
within
the
window
for
distribution.
C
So
we're
on
time
with
that
one
and
these
you
know
a
lot
of
it,
went
toward
the
kind
of
things
that
you've
heard
from
other
universities
enhance
sick
leave
extra
staff
time
to
do
cleaning
ppe
testing.
C
Last
year
we
had
to
reduce
occupancy
in
the
residence
halls
significantly
and
we
use
supplemental
housing
with
the
hotels
to
do
that,
and
so
that
was
paid
through
here,
the
debt
forgiveness.
We
talked
about
some
other
tuition
work
with
students
and
I.t.
A
lot
of
I.t
infrastructure
is
eligible
for
improvement
and
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
learned
as
many
campuses
learned
during
covet
is
our
I.t
infrastructure
went
under
a
tremendous
strain
when
we
began
to
do
more
more
things
online
and
more
hybrid
classes
and
more
online
classes.
C
The
we
have
about
15
million
dollars
of
her
funds
remaining.
As
of
the
end
of
september,
we,
as
we
mentioned,
we're
getting
ready
to
do
a
fairly
significant
distribution
of
student
emergency
aid.
We
expect
that
to
be
a
little
over
four
million
dollars,
that's
estimated
because
we
know
the
current
number
of
students
that'll
be
eligible,
but
we're
gonna.
We
have
to
make
this
available
to
previously
enrolled
students
as
well,
and
how
many
of
those
apply
is
we're
not
sure
so
that,
but
that's
an
estimated
budget.
C
We
anticipate
about
three
million
dollars
in
technology
upgrades
and
that
the
the
infrastructure
on
campus
is
is
just
not
able
to
support
the
load
to
if
we
had
to
pivot
back
to
either
a
hybrid
model
or
online
instruction.
So
we
have
a
number
of
technology
upgrades
planned.
None
of
these
items
yet
have
been
approved
by
our
board,
so
this
will
be
presented
to
our
board
in
october
as
well.
So
this
is
a
budget
right
now.
C
Hvac
improvements
are
allowed.
We
have
an
immediate
problem.
You
may
have
read
about
in
the
press
with
our
oldest
residence
hall,
no
in
our
oldest
our
largest
residence
hall,
that
dates
to
the
60s,
with
biological
growth
and
and
humidity
issues,
and
that
those
things
make
the
situation
for
potential
infection
of
coronavirus.
Worse,
so
we're
working
with
deca
in
the
finance
cabinet
to
improve
the
air
quality
in
that
building
it'll
be
outside
air,
filtration
humidity,
control,
all
the
things
that
will
improve
that
is
allowed.
Hvac
improvements
are
allowed
under
karzak
funding.
C
We
also
have
money
set
aside
for
vaccine
incentives,
we're
still
working
out
the
details
there,
but
we
want
to
encourage
as
many
of
our
students
as
I
c
as
we
can
to
get
vaccinated
and
I'm
going
to
skip
over
the
next
one
and
come
back
to
it.
We
we
have
identified
approximately
7
million
dollars
of
additional
hvac
upgrades
throughout
campus
that
deal
with
air
quality
filtration
and
all
the
things
that
are
related.
C
We
don't
anticipate
having
enough
money
to
do
that,
but
we
would
like
to
go
as
far
as
we
can
with
that
we're
we're
a
month
a
few
months
away,
probably
in
working
the
details
of
that
out
and
would
be
bringing
it
back
to
both
the
secretary
of
finance
and
well,
first
cpe,
then
secretary
of
finance
and
then
capital
projects
and
bond
oversight
committee.
If
we
decide
we
can
move
forward
with
that,
the
we've
reserved
a
little
over
a
million
dollars
right
now.
In
case
there
are
future
flare-ups.
We
we've
actually
had
a
good
fall.
C
I
know
that
it's
it's
been
challenging
for
all
of
us,
but
on
campus
it's
been
more
manageable.
This
fall
than
it
was
last
year
and
we're
hoping
that
continues,
but
we
need
to
reserve
money
in
case
it
doesn't,
and
we
don't
know
exactly
what
we'll
be
facing
when
students
come
back
in
the
spring
and
should
we
have
more
direct
covert
related
expenses,
this
budget
will
have
to
be
adjusted
and
we'll
have
to
redirect
money
because
that's
always
got
to
be.
The
first
priority
is
health
and
safety
of
our
students.
C
C
And
that's
all
I
had
mr
chairman,
and
I
don't
know
if
president
thompson
was
making
comments
or
you
want
him
to
go.
G
Ahead,
just
just
about
one
minute
worth
we're
in
the
process.
As
you
all
know,
in
addition
to
looking
at
all
the
financial
oversight
and
the
management
plan
that
we're
putting
together
we're
look
we're
looking
at
restructuring
a
lot
of
stuff,
the
way
we're
doing
academic
services
student
services,
but
we're
also
looking
at
putting
forth
what
I
consider
to
be
state-of-the-art
programming
for
the
sustainability
and
thriving
of
ksu,
especially
around
the
school
of
education.
G
G
I
won't
take
up
any
more
of
the
time
today,
but
would
love
to
talk
to
you
more
in
depth
about
this,
but
we,
you
know
it's
been
fairly
seamless,
working
with
the
board
and
with
the
interim
administration
and
making
some
of
this
happen
and
I'll
leave
it
there,
since
it
was
short
on
time.
A
I
C
Total
expenditures
for
the
last
couple
of
years
have
been
around
70
million,
and
that
includes
about
27
million
in
state
appropriation.
Over
8
million
of
that
is
reserved
for
land
grant
match.
So
the
actual
state
appropriation
that's
available
for
educating
students
is
around
18
to
19
million.
Okay.
A
C
Hope
so
we
are,
and
it
where
that
comes
from
is
when
the
federal
budget
is
released
and
they
increase
the
amount
of
federal
award
available
to
the
university.
And
it's
it's
hard
to
predict
predict
that
and
that's
been
our
challenge
in
the
past.
I
think
right
now,
you're
going
to
see
a
current
year
appropriation
for
us
again,
but
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
to
work
through
that
where
next
year
won't
be.
A
Necessary,
when
do
you
anticipate
being
able
to
have
your
proposed
budget
to
the
for
the
executive
branch
budget?
You
have
any
idea
when
you're
going
to
have
this
this
this
narrowed
down
and
have
a
final
number.
C
G
On
the
october
19
special
call
meeting
casu
to
present
them
with
as
close
to
a
final
budget,
we'll
also
be
asking
them
to
approve
the
presidential
selection
committee,
which
we
are
cpe's
kind
of
taking
that
on
and
the
search
consultant.
So
we
hope
to
have
everything
in
place
by
november
15th,
sir
okay.
A
Thank
you.
We
have
a
question
from
representative
mccool.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
just
want
to
make
a
brief
comment
that
I
have
a
little
question.
I
want
you
to
know
that
kentucky
state
university
is
essential
for
the
commonwealth
of
kentucky.
So
thank
you
for
your
transparency
and
your
bold
steps
and
and
going
forward
and
what
you're
doing-
and
I
really
you
know
with
retention
and
that's
one
of
the
best
ways
you
can
do
to
to
have
that
revenue
coming
in
is
retain
what
you've
got,
but
one
of
the
questions
I've
got
is
with
accreditation.
J
We
are
in
full
communication
and
has
been
transparent
with
sac
coc.
We
are
not
in
any
jeopardy
they.
Our
provost,
has
been
in
contact
with
them,
as
well
as
dr
sneller
on
our
campus
she's,
our
liaison
and
so
we're
in
full
compliance
and
accredited
through
2029.
G
F
K
Voice
so
I'm
sorry,
you
talked
about
the
budget
when
you
came
in
and
how
the
members
of
the
board
of
regents
were
not
provided
with
information,
detailed
information
that
they
needed,
and
then
you
incorporated
a
new
system
where
it
broke
down.
C
That's
the
way
the
budget
has
been
presented
for
quite
a
while,
but
but
I
think,
given
the
situation
that
we
have
now
it
it
needs
to
be
more
discreet
and
it
needs
to
be
more
transparent
and
the
the
budget
that
the
board
was
presented
with
in
june
was
a
balanced
budget,
but
immediately
the
projection.
The
cost
projections
that
we
saw
were
well
over
the
numbers
that
were
in
the
budget
and
the
the
revenue
numbers
are
tracking
relatively
closely.
C
So
I
think,
on
the
revenue
side,
the
budget
was
reasonable,
the,
but
the
the
payroll
that
was
currently
in
place
and
the
the
contracts
and
levels
expenditures
that
were
predicted
for
the
year
were
well
in
excess
of
the
budget
numbers
that
were
presented
to
the
board.
In
my
opinion,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
also
we've
not
gotten
the
new
structure
in
place.
Yet
we
we
need
to
actually
have
a
resolution
to
this
issue.
C
K
I
have
no
doubt
that
it
will
be
done
based
on
your
experience
in
working,
not
only
here
at
lrc,
as
I
mentioned
early,
but
in
the
higher
ed
area.
So
I
thank
you
for
taking
on
this
challenge.
G
And
explicitly
said
to
we
we
feel
like
it
should
be
broken
down
in
this
discreet
way,
because
if
not,
some
things
could
be
hidden
just
with
the
bottom
line
numbers
and
that's
what
it
looked
like.
They
had
received
the
board
and
cbe
to
be
honest
with
you,
and
so
we
feel
as
cpe,
along
with
ksu.
Let's
break
it
down.
So
discreetly
that
you
can
ask
the
questions
that
need
to
be
asked
at
a
discrete
level.
G
I
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
do
appreciate
y'all
jumping
into
the
frying
pan,
so
to
speak,
because
I've
been
there
before
and
it's
not
easy.
Sometimes
you
can
get
burned,
but
hopefully
we'll
work
together
to
help
make
make
sure
the
scars
are
permanent.
I
C
You
want
me
to
do
that.
One
yeah.
C
We
have
like
all
universities,
tremendous
deferred,
maintenance
and
and
ours.
You
know
everybody
will
say
theirs
is
the
worst
so
I'll
say
that
too,
but
we
we
estimate,
we
have
anywhere
from
100
to
150
million
in
deferred
maintenance.
Now
that's
a
smaller
number
that
you'll
hear
from
many
campuses,
but
we're
we're
that's
a
big
number
for
us.
We're
pretty
small.
C
Our
newest
residence
hall
dates
to
2007
and
it
was
newest,
probably
by
30
years.
So
our
housing
stock
is
is,
is
quite
old
and
we
have
challenges
every
day,
keeping
keeping
chillers
running
keeping
electricity
on.
In
some
buildings
we
have.
As
we
talked
about,
we
have
humidity
issues.
We
have
a
number
of
issues
within
the
campus.
We
have
done
what
we,
what
we
can.
C
We
implemented
an
emergence,
a
energy
savings
performance
contract
about
two
years
ago,
which
made
a
lot
of
improvements
to
kind
of
the
underground
infrastructure.
A
lot
of
the
boilers,
chillers
water
pipes,
those
kind
of
things,
but
those
pro
those
can
only
go
so
far,
and
we,
we
are
very
appreciative
of
the
general
assembly
for
a
5
million
appropriation
last
budget
to
work
on
roofs,
because
I
can
count
seven
or
eight
buildings
right
now
that
leak
when
it
rains.
C
It
actually
leaks
on
our
basketball
court,
which
is
challenging,
and
we
have
a
small
tree
growing
out
of
the
roof
of
one
of
our
buildings,
so
which
we've
got
to
resolve
that,
but
and
that
5
million
will
help.
But
it
will
probably
only
do
three
or
four
of
our
buildings
and
when
you
look
at
our
buildings
on
the
inside,
many
of
them
were
built
in
the
80s
and
they
look
like
they
were
built
in
the
80s.
C
Because
we've
we've
not
had
the
resources
or
been
able
to
put
aside
the
resources
to
address
those
issues
over
the
years.
I
I
appreciate
the
candor
because
I
understand
there's
a
lot
of
universities
have
that,
but
I
understand
given
your
budget,
it's
a
higher
percentage
and
it's
a
harder
thing
to
swallow
and
we'll
do
what
you
can
to
help
you
all
out
to
help
to
address
those
things
which
which
I
want
to.
Maybe
you
may.
I
This
might
be
the
same
answer
that
you
give
based
on
my
question
here,
because
I
asked
dr
thompson
and
dr
mcfadden
in
terms
of
what
are
some
of
your
cost
containment
strategies
and
so
forth
and
sound
like
you've
answered
that
to
a
certain
degree.
Is
there
anything
else
that
I'm
I'm
missing
or
you
you
want
to
highlight
on
that.
C
No,
I
think
at
this
point
it's
been
a
we,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we've
asked
to
work
with.
Cpe
on
is
a
benchmarking
of
personnel.
So,
given
a
university
our
size,
how
many
people
should
we
have
doing
certain
things
and
we're
working
with
with
cp
that's
going
to
take
a
little
while,
but
that
that's
how
we
hope
to
realign
and
rework
our
our
personnel
budget
and
we
may
have
people
working
in
the
wrong
places.
C
But
given
the
number
of
bed
spaces,
we
have
on
campus
we're
we're
pretty
close
to
our
maximum
enrollment
and
when
we
get
into
you
know,
the
the
academic
programs
we'd
like
to
expand
nursing
is
a
prime
example.
We're
capped
right
now
because
of
the
size
of
our
educational
facilities
for
nursing.
We
we
can't
we
we
have.
We
turn
students
away,
because
we
we
don't
have
the
capacity
to
educate
everybody
that
comes
in
given
the
size
of
our
teaching
space
for
nursing.
G
And
I
would
never
want
to
disagree
with
my
good
friend
here
and
I'm
not.
I
agree
with
him,
but
he's
talking
about
residential
enrollment.
There
are
some
ways
we
can
think
progressively
about
doing
some
adult
learning
representative,
mccool
representative
tipton,
some
some
stuff
serving
the
state,
the
city
of
frankfurt
and
some
of
our
other
municipalities.
G
So
we
have
to
triangulate
this.
We
have
to
get
the
right
butts
in
the
right
seat.
Make
sure
everybody's
in
the
right
pay
scale
all
those
things,
but
we
also
have
to
look
at
our
academic
programming
as
serving
the
core
of
what
hbcu
should
serve
and
that's
what
greg's
talking
about
and
that's
good,
but
also
we
we
can
make
a
top-notch
what
I
consider
an
adult
learning
focused
group
serving
some
other
populations
that
will
help
the
bottom
line,
also
financially
of
that
campus.
So
we
need
to
look
at
this
in
a
more
holistic
way.
G
J
A
At
that
time
the
balances
went
down,
but
the
enrollments
went
down
tremendously
as
a
result
of
that
honor
current
on
your
current
student
balances,
a
two-part
question
number
one.
How
many
students
currently
are
have
unpaid
balance?
And
secondly,
going
into-
and
we've
talked
about
this?
This
is
for
the
sake
of
the
committee
going
forward
in
the
next
semester.
What
policy
will
you
have
with
students
who
are
enrolling
next
semester
with
unpaid
balances.
C
C
It's
going
to
be
important
that
students
clear
their
fall
balances
before
they're
allowed
to
register
for
the
spring,
and
I
think
that's
a
policy
that
most
universities
follow
you
you
work
with
students,
you
try
to
find
external
sources
of
funding,
you
may
look
at
institutional
aid
and
we'll
do
everything
we
can
to
help
our
students,
but
we
need
to
have
the
balances
down
before
we
register
for
the
spring,
and-
and
you
know
it
it-
I
I
you
every
case
is-
is
individual,
so
I
hate
to
make
a
blanket
statement
because
you,
you
always
have
to
work
with
individual
students,
but
our
goal
is
that
the
balances
be
cleared
before
they
are
allowed
to
register
for
spring,
and
actually
we
are
we're
telling
students
that
they
will
need
to
move
out
of
the
residence
halls
for
christmas
if
they
don't
have
their
accounts
cleared
and
if
they
aren't
registered
for
spring
classes.
A
One
other
question
and
I'm
just
going
to
go
ahead
and
ask
it
right
before
president,
shortly
before
president
brown
left
ksu,
he
received
a
new
contract.
That's
been
talked
about
in
the
media.
When
president
brown
left
was
there
any
kind
of
severance
package,
or
is
he
still
is
he
still
receiving
any
kind
of
income
office
contract
that
he
had.
A
Very
good,
very
good,
any
other
member
have
questions
at
this
time.
We
appreciate
your
diligence
with
us.
I
know
we've
been
singing
talk
a
lot
to
each
other
greg
and
I
texted
on
sunday
afternoon.
The
other
day
so
appreciate
appreciate
all
you're
doing
at
this
time.
If
there
are
no
other
questions.
We'll
proceed
to
our
next
item
and
I
want
to
thank
our
final
presenters
for
being
very
patient
waiting
waiting
to
get
to
their
turn
on
the
road.
But
we
have
some
presenters
that
are
here
to
talk
to
us
about
teach
for
america.
A
We
all
understand-
and
you
all
can
take
turns
coming
the
table.
However,
however,
works
best
for
you
all
who
are
presenting,
but
we
all
understand
that
that
we
do
need
more
teachers
in
our
classrooms
in
kentucky
and
they're
here
to
share
a
little
bit
about
their
teach
for
america
program.
So
please
identify
yourself
for
the
record.
E
Do
chairman
wonderful
to
see
you
all
this
morning
my
name
is
stephanie
devine,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
teach
for
america
appalachia.
I
will
be
sharing
a
presentation
briefly
and
I'm
joined
by
some
fabulous
folks
from
eastern
kentucky
who
will
introduce
themselves
when
it
is
their
time
to
speak,
but
thank
you
again
for
your
opportunity
to
present.
I
will
be
brief.
As
I
know,
I
likely
stand
between
you
and
lunch,
which
I
never
never
want
to
do.
E
Appalachia
we've
been
serving
eastern
kentucky
for
the
last
10
years
and
in
those
10
years
we've
placed
over
175
of
our
nation's
top
leaders
to
teach
and
lead
and
live
in
eastern
kentucky,
and
while
those
folks
come
to
the
region
to
meet
really
critical
vacancy
needs,
stem
foreign
language
and
now
we're
even
seeing
elementary
school
needs
and
preschool
needs,
and
special
education
needs.
What's
really
remarkable
is
that
folks,
like
these
people,
come
to
the
region
or
come
home
to
the
region
and
become
deeply
embedded
in
those
communities?
E
They
work
in
education,
they
work
entrepreneurship.
You
might
recognize
people
like
our
friend,
dr
oj
oleka,
a
proud
teach
for
america,
alumnus
jeff
marietta,
who
leads,
invest
606
in
eastern
kentucky
and
again
many
of
our
teachers
who
remain
in
the
classroom
pass
their
commitment
like
kelsey,
tackett
and
floyd
county
who's
in
year,
nine
at
her
original
placement
school
I'll.
Also
note
some
of
the
numbers
here
around
the
number
of
students
impacted
by
one
teacher,
which
can
range
anywhere
from
30
students.
E
We
were
able
to
see
not
only
increase
in
geography
of
our
placement
but
increase
in
the
scope
of
where
we
place
teachers
and
again
we
launched
the
mountain
teacher
fellowship,
which
is
a
program
that
keeps
our
best
teachers
for
two
additional
years.
So,
as
you
think
about
what's
possible
here
on
the
right
column,
I'm
going
to
let
you
hear
from
two
of
those
leaders
themselves,
who
are
a
great
example
of
what
we
could
increasingly
bring
and
keep
in
the
area
with
an
increased
allocation.
So
I'll
pass
it
on
to
gavin
and
brittany.
L
Hi
there
I'm
gavin
pylo
the
criminal
justice
and
law
teacher
at
knock
county
central
high
school
and
before
I
was
hired,
my
school
district
really
struggled
to
attract
any
qualified
applicants
to
my
current
position,
my
school
district
and
I
were
not
even
on
each
other's
radars,
but
through
teach
for
america
and
its
networking.
I
was
hired
just
days
before
the
2020
school
year
started.
I
immediately
packed
up
everything
I
had
and
moved
from
seattle
washington
to
nott
county
in
eastern
kentucky
and
through
classes
like
intro
to
law,
criminal
justice,
criminal
investigation,
law
enforcement
and
corrections.
L
D
Thank
you
good
afternoon.
My
name
is
brittany,
curry,
I'm
currently
in
my
third
year
teaching
math
at
lecture
county
central
high
school,
unlike
gavin,
I'm
a
native
kentuckian,
I'm
originally
from
columbia,
kentucky
and
relocated
to
eastern
kentucky.
When
I
joined
the
teach
for
america
appalachia
corps
in
2019.,
the
reason
I
joined
tfa
was
because,
when
I
went
off
to
college
I
looked
around
and
didn't
see
a
lot
of
students.
D
Like
me,
I
was
a
first-generation
college
student
from
a
low-income
background
myself
and
was
very
honored
to
even
be
accepted
into
college
and
to
pursue
my
goals
there.
When
I
came
back
to
eastern
kentucky
to
teach
in
the
mountains,
I
absolutely
fell
in
love
with
the
place.
I
was
got
involved
in
a
local
church
community.
My
school
community
took
me
in
I
made
lasting
relationships
with
my
administrators
and
other
individuals
out
there,
and
because
of
that,
I've
decided
to
stay
in
the
region.
D
Through
the
inaugural
mountain
teacher,
fellowship
program
that
steph
has
mentioned,
I
have
been
granted
an
additional
two
years
to
stay
in
the
region.
Continue
teaching
and
improving
my
craft
and
I've
also
been
provided
with
a
financial
award
that
has
allowed
me
to
kind
of
build
my
own
financial
security
that
I
wouldn't
have
been
able
to
do
otherwise
without
the
fellowship.
Thank.
E
You
so
much,
they
are
again
just
two
of
many
incredible
leaders
that
we're
able
to
bring
and
keep
in
the
region.
So
I'll.
Just
briefly
speak
to
this
a
professional
development
and
coaching
model.
As
many
of
you
know,
the
research
increasingly
points
to
the
fact
that
teacher
coaching
is
a
really
key
level,
not
only
a
teacher
quality
but
teacher
retention.
So
right
now,
many
of
our
districts
are
spending
again
a
great
deal
of
money,
sending
their
teachers
on
buses
to
louisville,
to
lexington
for
professional
development
or
potentially
hiring
one
coach
per
district.
E
We're
seeing
that
that's
this
near
peer
mentoring
component
is
a
real
game
changer
for
students,
when,
coupled
with
strong
teachers
and
in
the
future,
with
an
increased
allocation,
we
could
double
the
size
of
that
cohort,
as
well
as
add
in
a
new
program
peer
forward,
which
is
a
nationally
proven
program
to
provide
support
to
students
in
grades
nine
through
eleven.
But
rather
than
hear
from
me,
I'd
love
to
introduce
you
to
ashley
morrow,
one
of
our
top
performing
college
success.
Coaches
in
knox,
county.
A
D
Sure
yeah
so
hello,
I'm
ashley
marl
and
I'm
the
college
success
coach
at
knox,
central
and
as
a
first
generation
person
from
pulaski
county.
I
can
assure
you
that
I
needed
a
mentor
when
going
through
the
college
process,
and
so
some
of
the
services
that
I
offer
my
students
at
knox.
Central
are
mentoring
and
financial
literacy.
D
You
know,
fafsa
workshops,
act,
workshops.
You
know,
college
tours
different,
various
things
and
all
this
stuff
has.
You
know,
while
striving
to
build
resiliency
and
grit
in
them,
and
so
this
approach
has
been
proven
successful.
With
68
of
my
at-risk
students
starting
college.
This
fall.
E
E
There's
there
are
things
that
are
possible
now
that
were
never
possible
a
year
ago,
and
yet
we
know
that
that
is
not
sufficient
work
and
progress,
given
what
is
true
for
kids
in
eastern
kentucky.
So
when
we
think
about
the
future,
this
partnership
that
we
could
deepen
with
the
kde
in
the
legislature
could
increase
our
teaching
workforce,
not
only
the
ones
we
bring
in,
but
the
retention
of
those
teachers
I
want
to
pull
out.
In
particular,
the
growing
special
education
placement
need
we're,
seeing
so
with
an
increased
allocation.
E
We
can
now
show
up
to
districts
and
say
we
will
now
certify
in
special
education
as
well,
which
would
be
a
massive
contribution
and
again
partnering
with
districts
to
offer
free,
pd
and
coaching
at
no
cost
growing.
The
college
success
coach
model,
but
I
think
what
matters
most
to
me.
What
keeps
me
up
at
night
is,
I
would
love
to
see
a
world
where,
in
2030
eastern
kentucky
is
the
global
proof
point
of
rapidly
increasing
number
of
kids
who
get
to
and
through
college,
and
I
think,
that's
possible
with
partnerships
like
ours.
A
E
A
Budget:
okay,
going
going
from
500
a
million
dollars
per
the
buy
in
them
to
2
million
for
the
buy-in.
Yes,.
M
Yes,
thank
you,
so
I'm
a
special
education,
elementary
teacher-
and
I
mean
from
from
my
heart
I
thank
you
for
dedication
to
the
children
and
so
forth.
So
my
concerns
with
teach
for
america
as
a
program
model
are
in
no
means
directed
towards
each
of
you
who
are
educators.
So
I
understand
that
teach
for
america.
Candidates
get
five
weeks
of
training
and
they
are
not
required
to
be
in
any
sort
of
a
training
certification
program.
E
Thank
you.
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
your
service
as
a
special
education
teacher.
That's
what
I
taught
and
I
think
it
is
the
most
important
job
in
the
world.
So
thank
you
for
your
kind
words.
Our
teachers
receive
training,
starting
from
the
day
that
they
are
enrolled
in
our
program,
which
ranges
anywhere
from
january
to
march.
They
get
five
weeks
of
what
you're
referring
to
is
very
commonly
known
as
institute
it's
sort
of
the
centralized
training
that
they
get,
but
our
teachers
get
two
full
years
of
intensive
one-on-one,
coaching
and
professional
development.
E
They
have
the
same
requirements
around
testing
and
certification
that
their
peers
do,
who
are
traditionally
certified.
So
I
I
can't
speak
to
all
teach
from
america
regis,
but
in
our
region,
there's
a
very
robust
pd
program
that
exists
through
the
duration
of
their
time
and
they
don't
receive
full
certification
in
the
state
of
kentucky
until
they
complete
a
third
year
which
which
involves
additional
certification
requirements,
so
certainly
they're
held
to
the
same
standard
as
their
peers
in
that
way,
but
happy
to
answer
any
technical
questions
you
have
on
top
of
that.
M
Okay,
so
if
I
may
so
is
that
an
internal
program
and
it's
not
through
the
state
correct.
M
Okay,
so
if
I
may
continue
yes
so
teach
for
america,
teachers
do
not
have
to
go
through
the
same
state
certification
process.
They
don't
have
to
go
through
teacher
training
program
in
a
university
they're
only
having
a
two-year
commitment,
which
does
in
turn
create
some
churn
in
school
buildings
that
is
disruptive
now
this
last
year
and
a
half
has
been
nothing
but
destructive,
but
but
I'm
speaking
as
the
model
on
the
model
as
a
whole,
education's
a
profession
and
education
professionals
need
a
professional
education
and
our
children
deserve
professional
educators.
M
So
I
I
do
have
grave
concerns
about
the
teach
for
america
model.
My
question
is
financial,
so
the
the
general
fund
appropriates
500
000
per
year
to
teach
for
america.
M
M
E
Sure
well,
first,
if
I
may
address
your
concerns,
I
want
to
just
empathize
with
the
fact
that
I
was
a
traditionally
trained
teacher.
I
went
to
school
for
special
education
and
I
shared
many
of
your
concerns.
When
I
learned
about
teach
for
america,
I
in
fact
was
a
pretty
vocal
critic
of
it
in
my
undergraduate
years,
I
ended
up
doing
teach
for
america
as
a
way
to
achieve
employment
in
baltimore,
where
I'd
wanted
to
move
for
some
time,
and
I
thought
I'll
just
do
this
program
right.
E
It'll
help
me
out
and
what
I've
truly
found
in
my
time,
both
as
a
traditional
educator
with
my
undergraduate
and
graduate
degree
in
education,
I've
seen
what
teach
for
america's
model
do
is
it
tries
to
find
proven
leadership
skills
in
people
so
we're
taking
the
top
ten
percent
of
college
graduates,
we're
looking
for
people
who
have
proven
that
they
can
lead
a
team
achieve
measurable
results
and
who
have
expertise
in
a
content
area.
So
brittany
here
studying
mathematics
at
rice
university,
I
feel
quite
confident
in
her
ability
to
teach
math.
E
But
what
we've
really
seen
is
that
we
can
focus
on
the
pedagogy
aspect
of
things
in
our
coaching
and
our
pd
model,
because
we
know
that
our
folks
are
proven
leaders
that
they
have
content
knowledge.
So
I
appreciate
your
concerns
and
I
certainly
shared
them
when
I
began
my
journey.
So
as
a
reminder,
our
the
allocation
not
only
supports
the
work
of
our
teachers,
but
also
the
work
of
our
college
coaches,
the
work
of
pd
and
coaching.
E
So
when
we
think
about
dividing
that,
it's
not
necessarily
a
particularly
helpful
number
to
think
about
like
what
a
teacher
costs-
and
that
also
varies
when
you
think
about
recruitment,
where
the
teacher
is
from
what
it
cos.
Some
folks
get
transitional
grants
and
loans
to
help
move
here.
Teach
for
america
is
a
national
501c3.
So
I
can't
speak
to
your
to
your
corporate
donation
at
the
broader
national
level,
but
this
year
we
received
a
private
gift
that
matched
the
state
allocation,
so
we
are
constantly
leveraging
private
funds.
E
The
reality
that
I
know
the
chairman
and
I've
talked
about
is
in
eastern
kentucky
in
particular.
Private
philanthropy
is
dwindling
at
a
rapid
rate.
We
don't
have
the
tax
base,
we
don't
have
the
wealth,
so
we
are
certainly
always
leveraging
additional
corporate
and
private
funds,
but
the
state
allocation
has
been
foundational
in
our
ability
to
maintain
and
grow
our
program
did
I
answer
all
of
your
questions.
M
There's
one
the
salary.
E
Oh
yes,
thank
you,
so
our
teachers
do
receive
the
same
rank
three
salary
as
other
professionals.
We
do
have
some
teachers
who
come
in
with
an
education
background
or
a
master's
or
degree
or
phd,
so
they
would
get
the
rank
salary
according
to
that
districts
can
pay
anywhere
from
two
to
four
thousand
dollars
per
teachers
as
a
recruiting
fee.
We
have
seen
in
some
communities
if
that's
a
real
barrier
to
getting
a
teacher.
We
can
find
philanthropic
means
to
ease
that
burden
as
well.
A
And
our
five
be
our
final
question
of
the
day
from
representative
mccool.
F
F
E
That's
a
great
question,
so
counties
reach
out
to
us
directly
and
every
year
we
have
between
60
and
75
unmet
requests
from
counties.
So
again,
with
every
allocation
increase,
we
can
increase
our
geographic
ability
to
meet
new
counties
to
engage
with
new
folks
so
happy
to
give
a
business
card.
If
you
know
any
superintendents
who'd
love
to
chat
with
us,
but
I
will
say
right
now:
we
have
a
much
higher
demand
than
what
we
can
meet.
So
we
have
not
pursued
new
district
partnerships
but
with
an
increased
allocation.