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A
A
Does
anyone
have
any
members
having
interdictions
or
other
comments,
they'd
like
to
make
at
this
time.
B
Thank
you,
chair
I
have
a
special
guest
with
me
here
today:
Dr
Mackenzie
Leachman
she's,
a
school
psychologist
with
Fayette
County
Public
Schools
I've
known
her
for
quite
a
few
years
and
she's
truly
outstanding
at
her
work.
A
And
I
do
believe
we
have
a
quorum
for
business.
February
is
career
in
technical,
Education
Month
and
today
we
have
a
CTS
CTE
student
leadership
day
here
in
Frankfurt
and
we're
very
pleased
to
have
Madison
Griffin
with
us
today.
She
is
the
state
vice
president
for
the
Health
occupation,
Student
Association
and
a
student
at
the
Trailblazer
Academy
in
Harrisburg
in
Madison
I
didn't
even
have
to
invite
you.
You
knew
right
what
to
do
so.
Please
please
introduce
yourself
for
the
record.
A
G
G
Soon
after
learning,
the
mission
of
HOSA
I
knew.
This
is
where
I
needed
to
be
I.
After,
although
nervous
I
decided
to
let
this
organization
help
me
grow
as
an
individual.
For
then
I've
I
ran,
as
vice
president
for
Kentucky,
HOSA
and
wow.
Can
I
tell
you
how
this
organization
has
helped
me
grow
and
how
many
doors
and
opportunities
it
has
opened,
and
it
is
rare
in
today's
world
to
have
a
one-on-one
experience
with
seasoned
Healthcare
professionals
and
those
that
want
to
pursue
the
same
pathway
as
me,
but
that
is
just
what
I
have
done.
G
G
G
The
hospital
walls
hold
so
much
history.
For
me,
the
walls
the
hallways
I
walk
now
are
once
the
hallways
that
my
great-grandmother
once
did.
The
office
my
grandmother
is
in
is
the
same
area.
She
would
sleep
as
her
mother
would
have
to
deliver
a
baby,
there's
not
a
spot
in
that
building
that
my
mother
hasn't
touched
as
she
grew
up
here
and
began
working
at
18.
when
I
entered
the
building,
I
feel
a
sense
of
home
and
I
know.
That
is
just
where
I
needed
to
be
so
enough
about
me.
G
Carl
Perkins
was
born
in
1912
in
a
rural
area,
Hindman
Kentucky,
where
he
became
a
teacher
throughout
his
career.
He
noticed
a
lack
of
resources
and
Necessities
needed
to
obtain
a
successful
education
throughout
his
age.
In
order
to
to
remedy
this
issue,
he
knew
he
would
need
more
education
himself.
This
drove
him
to
continue
his
education
at
the
University
School
of
Law
in
search
of
a
solution
at
her
successful
graduation.
His
goals
were
now
foreseeable
before
deployment
during
World
War
II.
G
He
served
as
the
Commonwealth's
31st
District
Attorney,
soon
becoming
the
state
representative
serving
as
a
chairman
of
the
committee
on
education
and
labor
for
17
years.
During
this
time
he
exceeded
his
goals
before
Perkins
death
in
1984.
He
paved
the
way
for
students
to
achieve
success
in
their
careers.
G
His
first-hand
experience
in
a
rural
community
laid
a
foundation
for
his
success.
His
personal
desires
and
needs
facilitated
his
achievements
without
his
dedication
and
ambition.
I
would
not
have
had
the
opportunity
opportunity
to
fulfill
my
educational
goals,
as
I
have
I
remember.
As
a
13
year
old,
we
were
asked
by
our
guidance
counselors.
What
career
path
do
you
want
to
choose
now?
If
you
can
imagine
being
a
13
year
old
and
being
asked?
What
do
you
want
to
be
when
you
grow
up
can
be
a
little
overwhelming
for
most
of
us?
G
We
didn't
even
know
what
we
were
eating
for
lunch
that
day,
let
alone
what
we
were
going
to
do
for
the
rest
of
our
lives.
Often,
students
choose
a
career,
they
have
little
knowledge
about.
They
then
discover
after
graduating,
at
the
last
four
years
of
school,
we're
focused
on
a
career
they
had
no
desire
to
do.
G
I
have
been
able
to
obtain
my
Medicaid
nursing
assistant
certification.
Alongside
my
peers
and
have
been
able
to
see,
students
in
various
Pathways
strive
for
their
goals
in
what
they
want
to
do.
Not
only
has
the
health
science
program
helped,
detain,
certifications
and
a
head
start
on
college
credits,
but
has
allowed
me
to
be
fully
involved
in
HOSA
with
Perkins
funding.
It
has
allowed
opportunities
for
other
students
across
Kentucky
and
internationally
students
are
able
to
venture
into
what
they
want
to
do
as
a
future
health
professional.
G
A
Or
Madison
so
much.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
remarks.
Your
presentation
today,
I
think
you
are
a
perfect
example
of
why
we
invest
so
much
of
our
time
and
resources
into
Career
and
Technical
education
here
in
Kentucky.
I
just
got
one
question
kind
of
like
when
you
were
13..
What
are
your
plans
post
high
school
and
what
you
see
is
your
career,
a
choice
in
the
future.
Okay,.
G
So
I
have
kind
of
figured
it
out
since
my
middle
eighth
grade
whenever
I
was
having
a
panic
attack,
because
I
couldn't
figure
out
what
I
wanted
to
do,
but
I'm
going
to
pursue
my
education
at
WKU
and
pursue
the
nursing
program
and
then,
where
I
will
get
my
RN
BSN
and
then
my
end
goal
is
to
be
a
nurse
an
ethicist
whether
I
will
get
there
and
I'll
find
my
passion.
Somewhere
else
is
one
thing,
but
I
just
know
that
I
want
to
be
in
the
medical
field.
A
Well,
thank
you
so
much
if
you
see
the
great
hair
on
this
committee,
you
understand.
Many
of
us
are
very
concerned
about
having
Quality
Health
Care
Professionals
in
the
future,
but
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
today.
Thank
you.
Any
other
members
have
any
comments
all
right.
Thank
you.
So
much
mass.
A
From
now
on
to
our
agenda
items-
and
our
first
item
on
the
agenda
today
and
I
will
remind
everyone
that
all
presenters
will
be
administered
the
oath,
but
our
first
presenter
today
is
representative
Bobby
McCool
House
of
concurrent
resolution
resolution
34
establishing
the
lottery,
trust
fund
task
force
of
Representative
McCool.
If
you'll
come
to
the
table,
and
anybody
who
may
be
with
you
I
would
ask
everyone
to
identify
yourself
for
the
record,
be
sure
your
microphones
are
turned
on
the
green
light
is
on
and
have
it
pulled
closely
to
you.
A
H
H
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
I,
just
want
to
thank
you
for
this
time.
This
opportunity
to
come
before
you
today.
This
is
a
as
often
we
should
do
is
evaluate
where
we're
at
with
this.
That's
what
this
is.
It's
just
a
test
sets
up
a
task
force
to
evaluate
this
trust
fund
and
will
be
designated
by
the
speaker
of
the
house
and
the
president
of
the
Senate.
So
that's
all.
A
Zach,
you
have
anything
you
want
to
add,
while
you're
here
at
the
table
today.
No
just
this
is
a
good
idea
to
make
sure
we
know
what
we're
doing
and
what
we're
doing
well
and
what
we
can
improve
on.
Oh
we're
glad
to
have
you
here,
interning
with
representative
McCool,
so
for
no
questions
or
comments.
Mariah
call
the
road.
D
E
I
F
A
H
A
K
A
J
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
for
having
us
here
today.
Members
of
the
committee
I
get
a
little
bit
of
deja
vu
as
we
come
back
to
this
bill.
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
your
continued
support,
as
we've
moved
this
along
the
last
couple
years.
We
this
bill
has
been
talked
about
on
several
occasions.
J
I
know
a
lot
of
us
went
to
Northern
Kentucky
earlier
last
year
and
the
resounding
statements
that
were
made
from
every
single
company
that
was
there
was
we
need
the
trades
industry
to
have
an
Avenue
for
students
to
go
there
to
use
their
keys
money
over
and
over
again
through
every
committee
meeting
I've
set
through
through
every
meeting
I've
set
through
with
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
through
just
every
person
I
can
think
of
the
keys
bill
has
been
something
that
has
been
brought
up
since
elected
and
something
that
we've
worked
on
since
elected
and
the
trades
industry
is
a
growing
industry.
J
Every
company
you
talk
to
needs
skilled
trades
people
with
the
welding
Plumbing
HVAC,
you
name
it
they're.
All
in
desperate
need
of
this
and
I
think
that
we
have
Kia
here
with
us.
We
began
working
with
them
with
Aaron
and
she
has
been
a
big
asset
to
us
as
we've
moved
this
forward.
We've
made
the
changes
that
was
needed
and
we've
continued
to
work
so
I'm
going
to
give
her
just
a
second.
If
she'd
like
to
talk
about
the
bill,
a
little
sure.
K
K
Thanks,
so
this
is
very
similar
to
legislation
that
almost
crossed
the
Finish
Line
last
year.
It's
also
very
similar
to
hospital
133,
which
you
passed
out
of
this
committee
last
week.
It
is
the
same
where
a
student
will
submit
their
receipts
to
us
and
they
will
be
reimbursed
up
to
the
earned
Keys
Award
amount,
so
the
the
schools
that
are
kind
of
opening
up
to
student
eligibility
there
are
about
70
or
so,
but
they
are
tailored
to
the
top
five
Workforce
needed
areas
in
Kentucky.
A
Do
you
all
have
a
a
physical
impact
on
how
this
will
impact
the
the
scholarship,
the
dollars
that
are
available
in
Keys?
Yes,.
K
So
the
the
there's
another
part
to
this
too.
That
also
includes
other
legislation
for
military
families.
That
may
have
earned
some
keys
money,
but
then
were
stationed
elsewhere
due
to
military
orders,
so
that
piece
I
think
we
estimated
the
ceiling
would
be
about
630,
000
and
again
the
reimbursement
piece
just
for
the
proprietary
schools
would
be
a
hundred
thousand
okay.
D
Yes,
thank
you.
I
was
also
reflecting
on
didn't.
We
just
do
this
one,
so
the
ears
start
blending
together,
but
I
did
go
back
and
pull
the
bill
from
last
year
and
the
line
is
not
eligible
to
participate
in
the
federal
federal
Pell
grant
program.
What
is
the
impact
of
having
that
in
this?
This
year's
bill.
K
That
is
just
so.
The
target
population
for
these
institutions
are
non-title
for
participating,
so
title
four
of
that
Higher
Education
Act,
the
federal
Higher
Education
Act,
is
what
defines
eligibility
for
Pell
Grant
federal
student
loans.
So
these
are
educational
institutions
that
are
outside
of
those
federal
guidelines.
Okay,.
D
And
they're
not
I
if
I
remember,
correct,
I'm.
Sorry,
man
briefly
follow
up.
If
I
remember
correctly,
I
think
we
were
talking
last
year
about
a
proprietary
organization
that
just
hadn't
done
the
process
to
become
authorized
for
Pell
Grants.
They
would
not
be
eligible
if
they
could
apply
to
be
eligible
for
Pell
Grants.
They
wouldn't
be
under
this
part
of
this
bill
correct.
If.
B
Thank
you,
chairman
representative.
Do
you
believe
that
this
would
impact,
or
do
you
believe
that
this
should
impact
Flight
School.
B
Every
time
you
show
up
in
committee
with
this,
this
particular
Bill
I'm,
going
to
make
a
reference
to
Pilot
Pete.
So
thank
you
chairman,
oh
well,.
L
Thank
you.
I
I
wanted
just
everyone
to
learn
a
little
bit
through
this
bill
and
I've
supported
it
for
years.
Thanks
for
bringing
it
will
you
talk
about
the
costs
of
proprietary
schools,
I'd
like
to
get
a
sense
of
how
much
having
access
to
Keys
money
will
will
expand
access
to.
J
Those
programs,
thank
you,
representative
Raymond,
so
the
school
that
is
was
in
my
district
before
redistricting
is
the
Kentucky
welding
institute.
We've
got
students
that
are
going
through
that
program
in
about
I.
Think
the
average
they've
got
a
couple.
Different
programs
you,
but
the
full.
If
you
go
through
the
entire
program,
is
about
a
year
year
and
a
half
and
you're
talking
about
fifteen
thousand
dollars
when
you
can
earn
ten
thousand
dollars
in
Keys
money.
K
L
K
Average
Keys
Award
1700
a
year.
Thank
you.
A
If
not
do
I
hear
motion
on
the
bill
motion
I
have
a
motion
in
a
second
who
was
the
second
on
that
representative
timony.
We
have
no
additional
questions.
Please
Mariah,
please
call
the
roll.
H
F
A
A
F
F
There's
a
committee
substitute
in
the
members,
packets,
The
Substitute,
was
emailed
to
members
with
the
agenda
representative
Tipton.
Do
you
mind
to
explain
the
proposed
house
substitute.
A
Sure
I'll
be
glad
to
in
the
house
substitute
that
was
sent
out.
There
was
no
language
deleted
from
the
original
Bill.
There
were
two
new
sections
that
were
added.
If
you
have
the
house
substitute
in
front
of
you,
those
changes
are
on
pages
46
and
47
of
the
committee
sub
and
they
added
two
sections
to
this
legislation.
A
Section
10
is
a
section
that
we
actually
had
in
statute
during
covet
for
a
temporary
period
of
time,
and
if
you
recall
two
weeks
ago,
we
had
our
informational
meeting
and
and
just
talking
to
teachers,
I'm
hearing
a
lot
of
discussion
about
burnout
teachers
are
teaching
their
regular
class
slow.
There's
a
shortage
of
teachers,
there's
a
shortage
of
substitutes,
so
a
lot
of
times
they
are
having
to
cover
classes
they're
having
to
forego
their
planning
period.
A
Now,
what
section
10
of
this
committee
sub
would
allow
it
would
allow
a
non-certified
individual,
a
teacher's
aide,
a
paraprofessional
to
cover
a
class
at
the
administrator
of
the
principals,
the
superintendent's
discretion.
That's
all
that
section
10
would
do.
It
does
have
a
time
limit
on
it
until
June,
30th
2026
put
this
in
as
a
temporary
provision
to
give
us
an
opportunity
to
try
to
relieve
some
of
the
pressures
on
our
classroom.
Teachers,
section
11,
would
add
an
additional
certification.
A
This
I
this
proposal
was
suggested
to
me
it
founded
in
Indiana
Law.
This
is
very
similar
to
what
they've
recently
done
in
the
state
of
Indiana
just
kind
of
somewhat.
This
section
would
do
for
an
individual
who
has
a
degree
a
bachelor's
degree,
a
master's
degree
in
the
subject,
so
they've
got
a
degree
in
math
chemistry,
physics
whatever,
and
they
have
at
least
four
years
of
experience,
work
experience
in
that
field.
They
would
be
allowed
to
be
given
an
interim
certificate.
Now
there
are
some
conditions.
A
One
of
the
conditions
is
that
a
mentor
teacher
would
have
to
be
assigned
to
them
to
help
them
with
the
teaching
pedagogy
how
to
teach,
and
they
also
have
to
follow
some
the
background
check
and
other
training
materials
they
would
have
to
be
again.
This
is
a
temporary.
We
put
a
temporary
time
frame
to
June
30th
2026..
As
you
know,
we
we
heard
in
testimony
that
there
are
between
1500
and
2000
current
teacher
certified
job
openings
at
any
one
time.
A
We've
also
been
told
that
many
of
the
school
districts
have
had
job
openings
that
have
been
posted
for
the
entire
year
that
have
not
been
filled.
This
would
just
simply
be
another
tool.
The
principal
superintendents
could
utilize
on
a
short-term
basis.
At
the
end
of
three
years,
we
can
reevaluate
this
process.
D
So
I
heard
you
say
that
they
could
cover
a
class,
so
say
somebody's
out
and
there's
no
substitute
they
could
cover
a
class.
Could
a
classified
person
be
put
in
a
in
a
teaching
position
permanently
or
short
term?
You
know,
so
a
teacher
of
record
is
like
the
teacher
who
is
teaching
that
class.
A
The
law,
the
as
the
bill
is
written,
it
says
classified
staff
employed
by
School
District.
As
of
the
effective
date,
May
perform
classroom,
instructional
activities
without
direct
supervision
by
certified
staff.
This
is
the
same
language
we
use
during
covet.
We
just
use
the
same
language.
I.
Do
not
it's
not
I,
don't
believe.
It's
Our
intention
that
that
would
be
the
case.
Representative
bolzanowski.
This
would
just
be
a
tool
to
help
alleviate
some
of
the
pressure.
As
you
well
understand,
teachers
are
facing.
D
Yes,
in
my
in
my
building,
we
had
three
teachers
out
on
Friday
without
Subs,
so
I
understand
exactly,
may
I
ask
a
follow-up.
Okay,
this
is
about
the
allowing
a
one-year
interim
certificate.
D
So
we've
already
discussed
my
concern
that
the
language
just
States
has
a
bachelor's
degree
and
you
did
kind
of
clarify
in
your
statement
that
it
would
be
in
the
content
area
so
I'm,
hoping
that
the
bachelor's
degree
would
have
to
have
a
relationship
to
what
the
the
person
would
be
teaching
I
do
want
you
to
maybe
explain
why
this
person
would
not
be
subject
to
a
collective
bargaining
agreement.
F
You,
okay,
we
had
a
motion
and
a
second
to
adopt
the
committee
substitute
all
in
favor.
F
F
All
right
are
there
any
more
questions
about
House,
Bill,
319.
L
Representative
Tipton
and
I
watched
you
on
the
TV
last
night.
I
wanted
to
follow
up
on
the
teacher
compact
right
so.
J
A
For
when
we
continue,
if
I
could
answer
your
question,
Mr
chair,
if
I
could
just
briefly
go
over
section
by
section,
what's
actually
in
House,
Bill,
319
I,
think
that
would
be
good
sex
section.
One
deals
with
the
interstate
compact
on
teacher
licensure.
This
was
an
effort
that
was
initiated
by
the
Department
of
Defense,
the
idea
being
that
there
are
excuse
me,
military
members
who
transfer
from
Base
to
Base
from
state
to
state
who
may
have
spouses
who
are
licensed
teachers
in
another
state.
A
If
you
had
a
the
situation
occurring,
that
was
from
a
compact
state
going
to
a
compact
state,
this
would
allow
for
that
that
spouse
who's,
a
teacher
or
for
any
other
individual
who's
transferring
to
get
an
equivalent
license
in
the
state
they
are
moving
to.
It
would
also
allow
that
any
when
it
came
time
to
recertify
that
license,
they
would
have
to
meet
any
state
requirements
of
that
state.
A
As
far
as
a
timeline,
this
model
language,
that's
in
the
bill,
has
been
worked
on
by
the
council
for
state
governments,
probably
over
the
last
two
years.
Developing
this
model
language,
the
timeline.
Is
it
states
that,
in
order
for
the
compact
to
be
functional,
there
would
have
to
be
at
least
10
states
to
pass
the
language
and
they
have
to
pass
subsequently
identical
language
in
each
of
their
statutes?
I
believe
that
we
may
be
the
11th
state
to
introduce
this
legislation
so
far.
A
So
what
would
happen
is
when
10
states
actually
passed
the
compact
the
compact
would
begin
each
each
state
would
have
one
member
that
would
serve
on
a
commission
to
oversee
the
work
of
the
compact.
The
first
thing
they
would
do
is
they
would
review
the
statutory
language
of
all
10
states
or
others
that
have
passes
to
ensure
that
they
substantially
meet
the
model
language
and
once
that's
satisfied.
The
compact
work
of
the
compact
would
begin
on
that.
Any
follow-up
questions
on
that
or
you
look
perplexed.
A
That
depends
on
the
other
legislative
bodies
across
the
state
Across
the
Nation
on
when
they
might,
but
since
it
has
been
introduced,
I
think
there's
a
very
good
chance.
We,
we
could
possibly
see
that
happen
this
year.
A
As
far
as
that
kind
of
our
section
two
of
the
bill
in
in
this
was
a
question
that
I
asked
for
superintendents
two
weeks
ago,
and
it
would
require
KDE
to
develop
a
system
or
by
school
districts,
they're
going
to
be
required
to
perform
exit
interviews
on
staff
as
they
leave,
and
it
would
provide
a
system
for
them
to
report
that
data
to
KDE.
So
we
you
know,
we've
been
talking
about.
Why
are
we
having
this
issue?
Let's
get
some
data,
and
this
is
the
following
questions.
A
They
have
to
ask
the
position:
that's
vacated,
how
many
years
of
service
the
employee
has
what
their
position
is
in
the
district.
It's
asking
if
they're
taking
that
employee
is
taking
a
similar
position
in
another
district
and
the
reason
or
reasons
provided
for
leaving
the
district.
That
would
just
give
us
some
data
to
look
at
this
as
we
analyze
this
further
section,
three
of
House,
Bill,
319
and
I-
put
that
famous
language
in
here.
A
If
funds
are
available,
those
of
you
who've
been
around
here
a
while
have
seen
that
before,
but
it
would
require
the
Council
on
post-secondary
education
to
establish
a
marketing
plan.
If
you
may
recall,
we
had
the
presenters
at
the
table.
Representative
Jackson
asked
the
question
in
the
gentleman
affiliate
with
the
God
house.
Do
you
feel
like
businesses
would
be
willing
to
contribute
to
this,
and
he
indicated
that
he
his
business
was
I've
had
some
conversations
Kentucky
Association
of
school
administrators.
They
believe
they
can.
A
They
have
people
who
would
contribute-
and
this
was
all
this
does-
is
establish
a
fund.
It
can
take
state,
federal
or
private
donations.
I'm
going
to
be
very
truthful,
I
think
the
odds
of
this,
something
that
we
get
a
lot
of
State
funding,
not
very
likely,
but
it
does
establish
a
fund
or
that
private
entities
that
want
that
are
interested
in
this.
A
That
feel
like
it's
important,
could
contribute
it
and
it
will
allow
CPE
to
use
these
funds
to
develop
a
marketing
plan
for
for
high
school
students
and
post-secondary
students
to
recruit
them
into
the
teaching
profession,
and
they
also
provide
a
report
to
us
section.
Four
is
another
one
of
those
if
funds
are
available.
If
you
recall,
during
our
discussion
two
weeks
ago,
we
had
some
conversation
about
the
kept
system.
That
is
the
database.
A
It's
currently
where
job
applications
are
posted
and
and
true,
if
you're,
a
member
of
the
commissioner
said
it
needs
to
be
updated.
This
would
provide
a
Statewide
job
posting
system
whereby
each
individual
District
could
post
job
openings
and
it
would
allow
candidates
who
are
interested
in
applying
for
this
job
to
apply
at
one
spot.
They
put
their
application
in,
submit
the
resumes
all
the
references,
then,
if
they
wanted
to
send
that
to
this
District
or
that
District
they
could
do,
it
would
simplify
the
process.
A
Section
number
five
amend
some
language
in
the
teacher
scholarship
program
and
one
thing
that
I
have
discovered
while
we've
been
talking
about
these
issues,
is
a
lot
of
people
didn't
even
realize
we
had
a
teacher
scholarship
program
in
Kentucky.
Now
it
has
had
some
funding
for
several
years.
There
were
a
period
of
time
or
that
program
was
was
not
funded
for
two
or
three
years
and
the
last
biennium
budget
that
we
passed
last
year.
We
did
appropriate
one
million
dollars
in
each
year
of
the
biennium
toward
this.
A
A
They
are
required
to
teach
a
semester
if
they
do
not
teach
a
semester
for
every
semester
that
they
receive
the
scholarship
that
scholarship
converts
to
a
loan,
and
they
are
subject
to
repaying
that
loan.
One
change
we
didn't
make
in
the
statute
I
believe
it
had
a
a
maximal
interest
rate
of
12
percent
and
I
changed
that
to
eight
percent.
A
For
for
teachers
who
are
entering
High
need
areas,
career
and
Tech
education,
it
would
for
every
they
would
be
required
to
teach
a
semester
for
every
two
semesters
they
got
to
received
a
scholarship.
So
that's
a
little
background
on
how
that
teacher
scholarship
program
works.
The
changes
that
we
made
there
were
some
statutory
language
that
put
a
limitation
on
how
much
that
a
recipient
could
receive.
We
understand
the
increased
cost
of
attending
college
in
school,
so
we
took
those
caps
out
and
there
is
a
provision
in
here.
A
Language
will
now
basically
say
that
the
authority,
which
is
Kia
along
with
KDE
and
CPE,
would
determine
what
these
maximum
awards
are
based
on
the
amount
of
funds
that
are
available.
So
that
is
a
significant
difference.
I
would
hope
and
encourage
you
to
I
feel
like
this
is
an
underutilized
program
that
people
aren't
aware
of
so
I
would
hope
we
come
back
in
2024.
This
might
be
an
area
we
could
increase
some
funding
for
this
to
help
these
teachers
finish
up
and
be
able
to
finish
up
their
teaching
credentials.
A
It
would
add
new
language
just
clarifying
that
right
now,
if
a
certification
option
requires
employment
prior
to
certification,
epsb
must
update
their
regulations
and
processes
to
allow
the
candidate
to
obtain
ineligible
for
higher
letter.
This
is
something
that
both
Mr
glass,
the
president,
Thompson.
The
folks
thought
was
a
very
positive
change
that
would
make
it
easier
for
people
going
through
the
alternative
certification
route
section.
A
Seven,
it's
just
demands
the
statute
to
incorporate
this
newly
created
Statewide
job
posting
just
conforms
some
language
that
we
talked
about
in
that
Section
8
is
non-codified
language
and
I
know
we
have
some
freshman
non-codified
language
means
it
carries
the
force
of
law,
but
it's
not
in
our
statute.
Just
for
reference.
As
funds
are
available,
it
would
direct
the
Kentucky
Department
of
Education
to
expand
the
go,
teach
Kentucky
ambassador
program
to
every
District
in
the
State,
by
September,
15
2023,
and
for
any
District
that
has
over
30
000
students.
A
There
must
be
two
ambassadors
for
that
District.
This
is
just
a
program
encouraging
our
high
school
students
to
be
interested
and
participate
in
potentially
being
a
teacher
and
providing
them
that
support
section.
9
is
another
piece
of
non-codified
language.
You.
We
currently
have
nine
options
for
alternative
certification.
A
Most
of
these
people
who
go
through
an
alternative
option
utilize
option
six,
for
example,
from
2016
to
21.
We
have
an
option:
seven
that
had
one
person
complete
option:
seven
over
that
five-year
period.
What
this
there's
it
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
duplication,
a
lot
of
misunderstanding.
A
This
section
would
direct
epsb
educational
licensure
to
review
all
the
alternative,
certifications,
look
for
duplications
fight
figure,
find
ways
to
simplify
things,
and
do
we
really
need
nine
different
options
and
come
back
to
us
with
recommendations,
sections
10
and
11
are
the
two
sections
I
refer
to
that
are
in
the
committee.
Mr
chairman
will
make
his
comment.
A
House
Bill
319
is
not
going
to
solve
a
problem.
We're
going
to
continue
to
have
a
problem
with
this
issue,
I
think
for
many
years
to
come.
We
didn't
just
start
this
problem
this.
This
has
been
building
up.
For
many
years,
we've
been
seeing
fewer
and
fewer
people
in
our
becoming
education,
Majors
entering
the
teacher
preparation
program.
That's
a
trend.
We've
been
seeing
for
many
years,
it's
not
just
in
Kentucky.
A
This
is
happening
all
across
the
southeast
all
across
the
country,
but
I
do
believe
that
house
bill
319
is
a
good
first
step
to
take
some
positive
actions
that
will
remove
some
of
the
burden.
Remove
some
of
the
regulation
remove
some
of
the
red
tape
and
make
it
easier
and
more
conducive
for
individuals
consider
going
into
the
teaching
profession
and
to
keep
them
in
the
teaching
profession
and
with
that
Mr
chairman
I'd,
be
glad
to
entertain
any
questions
from
the
members
all.
F
Right,
thank
you,
representative,
Tipton.
First
off,
like
I
agree
with
you,
100
may
not
solve
the
problem,
but
I
think
this
will
help
and
I
appreciate
the
hard
work
that
you've
put
into
this
bill.
I
know
this
has
been
years
of
work,
so
I
appreciate
that
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
now
and
get
started
with
questions
looks.
M
A
On
that,
absolutely
the
portion
of
the
bill
that
deals
with
expanding
the
go
teach
Kentucky
ambassador
program
is
an
expense
of
250
000
dollars.
The
portion
the
bill
that
deals
with
developing
the
Statewide
application
model
would
be
a
first-time
expense
of
about
500
000.
That's
about
half
of
that
to
develop
the
program
about
half
of
that.
To
maintain
that.
So
then
it
would
be
a
continuing
appropriation
of
about
250
000
going
forward
after
that,
and
those
are
really
the
the
only
two
items
that
really
addressed
a
funding
component.
I
will
point
out.
A
I
want
you
to
be
aware
on
the
interstate
compact
that
that
compact
rule
function,
the
the
members
in
that
compact
will
be
responsible
for
paying
the
cost
of
that,
so
there
would
be
a
fee
associated
with
each
member.
State
I
will
also
point
out
that,
should
that
become
burdensome
or
get
out
of
line,
there
is
a
provision
that
any
state
can
withdraw
from
the
compact
with
legislation,
and
it
takes
six
months
after
this
passed
to
withdrawal.
F
E
B
Thank
you,
chairman
and
chairman,
thank
you
for
all
your
hard
work
on
this
there's
a
lot
of
really
really
good
things
here
and
you're
addressing
a
lot
of
the
needs.
One
of
the
concerns-
and
this
is
just
a
comment.
One
of
the
concerns
that
I
have
is
when
we
have
classified
staff
covering
classes.
M
B
N
Thank
you
chairman,
and
thank
you
for
the
for
the
bill
and
for
the
explanation
I.
My
first
question,
if
I
get
to
ask
to
is
about
the
compact
portion
of
this
I'm,
a
big
fan
of
compacts
and
improving
increasing
Interstate
portability.
We've
seen
that
with
some
mental
health
and
some
health
bills,
and
it's
worked
out
very
well.
N
I
did
have
some
teachers
concerned
about
some
of
the
provisions
in
the
Compact
and
I
know
with
other
compacts
the
teachers
have
to
or
that
the
individual
members
of
the
profession
would
have
to
opt
in
to
the
compact.
So
if
you're,
a
teacher
in
Kentucky
you're,
not
necessarily
Bound
by
the
rules
of
the
compact
is,
is
that
correct.
N
Thank
you,
I
just
wanted
that
clarification.
My
other
question
has
to
do
with
one
of
the
new
provisions
and
rep
bojanowski
brought
up
the
up
to
10
percent
would
not
be
subject
to
collective
bargaining
agreement.
This
is
on
the
last
page
of
the
bill
and
your
your
response
to
that
was.
This
came
out
of
Indiana
statute
and
I,
wonder
if
maybe
this
doesn't
fit
so
well
with
Kentucky
statute,
and
if
you
might
be
open
on
the
house
floor
to
removing
that
particular
provision
about
exempting
some
employees
from
Collective
Bargains.
A
Be
more
than
happy
to
have
that
conversation
I'm
not
going
to
guarantee
anything
at
this
time.
I
would
thank
another
more
POS,
more
probable
Avenue
is
knowing
our
friends
in
the
Senate.
I
just
got
this
feeling
they're
going
to
want
to
change
some
things
anyway,
so
that
might
be
a
more
proper
venue
to
see
if
that's
something
that
the
Senate
might
have
a
substitute
on,
that
we
could
talk
about.
I
Just
a
couple
of
comments,
as
others
have
said,
chairman
Tipton.
Thank
you
for
your
hard
work
on
this
situation.
The
easy
thing
to
do
is:
do
nothing
and
everybody
sit
around
and
complain
about
the
situation
we're
in
so
yeah.
We
may
have
to
revisit
this
in
a
year
two
years
whatever
and
make
some
adjustments,
but
at
least
this
is
a
starting
point.
So
thank
you
for
your
hard
work
on
this
on
this
bill,
and
this
gives
us
opportunity
to
get
teachers
into
the
system.
I
I
think
there
is
a
bill
working
right
now.
Hopefully,
that's
going
to
be
filed
that
has
to
do
with
retaining
teachers
and
dealing
with
discipline
in
the
classroom
and
I'm
excited
about
that
opportunity
as
well.
We
need
to
do
everything
we
can
to
get
new
teachers
into
the
system,
but
we
also
need
to
take
care
of
the
ones
that
we
already
have
and
deal
with
the
discipline
situations
that
are
occurring
in
our
schools
today.
I
D
E
H
C
L
I
vote
yesterday,
when
I
heard
this
called
an
Omnibus
teacher
shortage
bill
which
I
I
don't
think,
is
your
language,
and
you
probably
didn't
like
to
hear
that
I
expected
a
more
robust
bill
that
possibly
addressed
salaries,
how
we
increase
the
pipeline,
such
as
expanded
scholarships
or
loan
forgiveness
for
teaching
students.
Maybe
incentives
for
career,
Changers,
I
know
in
the
legislature.
We
say
there's
always
next
year,
but
our
kids
are
only
in
first
grade
once
second
grade
once
third
grade
wants.