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A
Technology
meeting
a
special
welcome
to
any
guest.
We
have
business
day.
Any
members
have
any
guests
today,
you'd
like
to
recognize
all
right,
I'm
going
to
take
that
option.
I've
got
a
couple
of
guests
today.
Actually
I
have
from
scott
k
my
area
riley
nelson.
She
goes
to
eastern
elementary,
actually
she's
in
fifth
grade
and
actually
her
teacher
is
a
good
friend
of
ours,
been
my
wife
taught
at
eastern
for
years.
Also,
we
have
a
extremely
important
guest.
Also
we
have
asher
druin
he's
also
he's
a
fifth
grade
at
stepping
ground.
A
You
may
know
his
dad
as
tommy
during
but
great
to
have
him
here
today
glad
to
have
him
set
on
committee.
I
want
to
welcome
again
as
we
do
this
guys.
We
want
to
talk.
This
is
small
business
day
for
kentucky
chamber.
They
have
brought
a
lot
of
friends
and
guests
with
them.
It's
great
to
see
that
many
small
businesses
a
couple
years
ago.
I
was
wondering
if
we
don't
have
any
so,
but
it's
got
glad
to
have
him
here
before
we
get
started
like
over
a
few
reminders.
A
Please
silence
all
cell
phones
this
time.
If
you'd
like
to
speak
on
a
bill,
please
use
the
signing
sheet
at
the
entrance
of
the
room.
The
request
to
speak
is
within
the
chair's
discretion.
Based
upon
the
time
restraints
of
this
meeting
and
information
already
presented,
reminder,
no
signs
are
permitted
in
the
room
members
attending
remotely.
Please
indicate
your
location
when
the
clerk
calls
a
role.
If
any
any
member
has
a
question
or
comment.
Please
sign
please
signal
to
aubry
or
jennifer
members
attending
remotely
that
have
a
question
or
comment.
A
Present
room
also
for
those
standing
back.
There
are
some
chairs.
I
see
some
chairs
development
up
in
the
front
here,
but
you're
more
than
welcome
to
stand.
Also,
but
again,
I'm
I'm
appreciative
such
a
large
group
here
today
to
address
us
and
tell
us
about
all
your
interests.
So
at
this
point
time,
when
y'all,
please
approach
the
desk
and
look
forward
to
your
presentation.
H
That
was
quick
good
after
good
morning,
small
business
committee.
My
name
is
john
hughes,
I'm
the
kentucky
chamber
with
me
is
sarah
whitaker
she's,
a
small
business
owner
in
christian
county
behind
me,
mr
chairman,
is
the
small
business
participants
in
small
business
day.
We
do
this
annually
at
the
chamber.
H
I
Good
morning,
members
of
the
small
business
and
technology
committee
chairman
pratt,
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
speak
today.
My
name
is
sarah
whittaker
and
I'm
the
owner
of
williams
advertising.
We
specialize
in
marketing
businesses
to
help
them
reach
their
full
potential
and
we
make
branded
merchandise
as
well.
Our
small
business
allows
me
to
take
this
new
role
of
a
small
business
council
chair
for
the
kentucky
chamber
of
commerce.
I'm
brand
new
to
this,
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
each
of
you.
I
This
past
year
the
kentucky
chamber
released
a
report
called
20
years
in
the
making
a
workforce
crisis.
The
emphasis
of
this
work
highlights
the
challenges
employers
have
had
with
a
depleted
workforce.
Compounding
these
challenges
with
a
once-in-a-lifetime
pandemic
creates
a
crisis
across
the
commonwealth.
We,
as
small
business
owners,
are
not
exempt.
We
face
these
challenges.
I
In
august
of
last
year,
it
was
reported
that
50
of
all
small
business
owners
reported
job
openings.
They
could
not
fill
in
that
period.
This
comes
from
the
national
federation
of
independent
business
chief
economist
bill.
Dunkelberg
99
of
businesses
in
kentucky
are
small
businesses
employing
nearly
half
of
the
commonwealth's
workforce.
Experiencing
such
a
level
of
workforce
challenges
is
a
threat
to
kentucky's
economy.
Today,
we
thank
you
for
promoting
pro-business
policies
such
as
house
bill.
8..
One
way
to
tackle
the
workforce
crisis
is
to
grow
the
state's
local
population.
I
One
way
to
do
this
is
revise
the
state's
current
tax
code,
as
is
suggested
in
this
recently
supported
bill.
Statistics
show
that
states
with
lower
income
tax
rates
grow
faster
than
those
with
higher
taxes.
I
have
a
unique
perspective
on
this
on
income
taxes
effect
on
business.
As
my
hometown
is
in
hopkinsville.
We
sit
right
on
the
tennessee
line
and
I
watch
my
neighboring
clarksville
become
the
fifth
fastest
growing
city
in
the
united
states.
I
I
I
Corporations
make
decisions
to
locate
in
states
with
no
income
tax
because
their
people
make
more
imagine
if
all
of
a
sudden
small
businesses
employees
had
a
raise
without
it,
impacting
their
bottom
line,
states
with
favorable
corporate
tax
policy
and
low
or
no
income
tax
attract
bigger
businesses
which
attracts
more
residents,
widening
the
base
that
larger
population
not
only
translates
to
our
workforce
of
availability.
It
translates
to
business
growth.
If
we
have
more
residents
in
kentucky,
we
have
more
people
choosing
to
shop,
eat
and
otherwise
support
local.
I
I
We've
seen
throughout
the
pandemic
that
remote
workers
choose
to
live
in
places
like
tennessee,
texas,
florida.
You
know
escaping
taxes
put
on
the
penalty
of
working.
I
would
like
to
see
our
small
businesses
benefit
from
pro-business
policies.
Let's
have
kentucky
welcome
our
underparticipating
workforce
back
by
reducing
and
eventually
eliminating
the
penalty
we
put
on
them
when
they
do
choose
to
participate
through
measures
like
house
bill
8..
Another
bill
that
is
meant
to
assist
with
workforce
participation
is
house
bill.
499
in
supporting
the
employee
child
care
assistance
program.
I
You
support
an
attractive
benefit
for
business
owners
to
attract
and
retain
their
workforce.
I
think
sometimes
employees
and
unfortunately
women.
A
lot
of
the
time
disproportionately
are
met
with
challenges
when
it,
you
know,
if
you're
deciding
to
participate
in
the
workforce
house,
bill
499
introduces
a
dedicated
benefit
that
helps
cover
child
care
met
with
a
match
from
the
employee
child
care
assistance
program.
Small
business
dollars
go
a
lot
farther
house
bill.
499
is
not
only
a
direct
benefit
to
workers,
but
a
measure
that
will
allow
for
more
child
care
availability.
I
When
there's
consistent
funding
to
support
those
facilities
in
closing
with
one
of
the
lowest
workforce,
participation
rates
in
the
nation
kentucky
will
never
be
able
to
live
up
to
its
full
economic
potential.
This
is
a
problem
that
impacts
not
only
big
but
small
businesses
as
well.
We
appreciate
your
support
of
pro-business
policies.
Thank
you
for
having
me
speak
today.
A
Thank
you
ma'am.
Is
that,
sir?
What
that's
it?
You
know
business
owners,
we
keep
it
short,
sweet
and
don't
go
on
about
doing
what
we
do
best
and
that's
running
our
business.
We
do
have
a
question.
A
reference
bowl
janowski.
C
Yes,
thank
you
to
everyone
coming
today.
I
wanted
to
share
so
I
spent
my
entire
first
career
in
my
small
family
business.
My
mom
owned
a
gymnastics
business.
She
opened
it
in
1981..
C
I
know
firsthand
what
it
means
to
be
a
small
business
owner.
It
means
that
when
the
toilet
overflows
you
go
and
you
take
the
thing
and
you
fix
it,
it
means
that
when
there's
not
enough
money
you
don't
get
paid
and
it
means
when
you're
carrying
an
insurance
policy.
What
happened
to
us
and
the
business
didn't
do
so
well,
we
lost
the
policy
when
we
went
to
renew
it.
We
were
triple
rated
because
my
son
had
pre-existing
conditions.
C
You
know
the
reality
is,
I
understand
completely
the
realities
of
fully
supporting
my
family
through
a
small
business,
I'm
going
to
push
back
a
little
bit
on
the
income
tax
issue,
because
well
it's
nice
not
to
have
any
income
tax.
I
never
made
enough
income
for
that
amount
to
be
relative
to
impacting
any
decisions.
So
I
mean
that
that's
the
reality
of
quite
a
few
small
businesses.
C
I
do
want
to
agree,
though,
about
the
employee
child
care
in
our
gymnastics
business.
I
was
able
to
bring
my
children
to
work
with
me
and
when
it
came
to
breastfeeding,
sometimes
that
was
a
little
tricky
because
I'd
be
out
on
the
floor,
the
baby
be
crying
in
the
alcove
and
you
know
what
happens,
but
you
know
for
a
parent
and
particularly
for
women
to
be
able
to
be
in
the
workforce
having
the
ability
to
bring
your
children
to
work
with.
C
You
really
really
is
a
powerful
thing,
so
I
am,
I
am
there
for
you.
I
am,
I
understand
the
realities
of
small
businesses.
I
understand
how
frustrating
it
is.
Sometimes
when
the
word
small
business
like
to
sba
small
business
means
up
to
200
employees,
that's
not
small.
To
me
small
is
eight
ten
employees
and
you
know
you're
barely
making
it
every
month.
So
I'm
here
with
you,
I
thank
you
for
coming
today.
Please
reach
out
are
there
if
there
are
specific
things,
but
I
am
definitely
for
our
small
businesses.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you
for
coming
today,
I'm
to
a
small
business
owner.
That's
how
I
support
my
political
habits,
the
the
challenges
of
the
small
business,
I've
owned
my
own
business
for
20
years
now,
and
and
then
prior
to
that
managed
and
store
there
in
town
for
15
years.
Prior
to
that
I
farmed,
so
it's
I've
never
had
the
luxury
of
just
depending
on
on
that
steady
income
that
paycheck
other
than
the
time.
I
was
at
the
co-op
store
and
I
want
you
know.
I
understand
the
challenges
that
you
guys
go
through
on
a
first-hand
basis.
F
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
we
have
taken
steps
to
move
our
income
tax
to
zero.
It
can't
happen
in
overnight.
In
2018,
we
dropped
it
from
six
to
five.
F
We
passed
a
bill
out
of
the
house
last
week
to
drop
it
from
five
to
four
and
then
ratchet
it
to
zero
as
soon
as
possible.
As
soon
as
the
income
that's
coming
into,
our
state
would
allow
us
to,
but
I
live
in
western
kentucky
20
miles
from
the
tennessee
state
line.
I
hear
it
all
the
time
we
have
employees
that
live
in
tennessee
and
come
to
kentucky
and
work,
and
they
complain
about
taking
out
the
the
tax
because
they
don't
have
it
taken
out
of
their
paycheck
when
they
work
in
tennessee.
F
So
it
is
a
problem.
We
we
have
the
same
issues
that
most
small
business
owners
have
finding
enough
help
and
anything
we
can
do
to
attract
people
to
kentucky
and
and
put
more
butts
in
the
seat
and
and
broaden
our
base
to
to
hire.
People
grow
that
that
working
pool,
so
we've
got
more
people
to
choose
from
you.
Have
my
support.
A
Thank
you,
representative
lawrence.
E
John
sarah,
thank
you
guys
for
presenting
today,
and
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
the
maysville
chamber
is
here
and
thank
you
guys
for
coming
up
today.
Thank
you
all
for
the
work
that
you've
done.
I
have
since
been
elected,
worked
with
you
guys
from
day
one,
and
it's
been
an
honor
to
do
that.
I
know
that
I
ran
my
entire
campaign
based
on
supporting
small
businesses
throughout
my
district,
and
it's
I've
been
able
to
do
that
because
of
your
support
and
your
help-
and
I
appreciate
the
chamber
being
here
today.
D
Baker.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
John
a
number
of
years
ago
I
did
a
study
on
the
the
impact
of
money
spent
at
small
business
and
the
study
that
I
read
it
talked
about
those
dollars
turned
into
community
an
average
of
about
seven
times.
Has
the
chamber
done
any
study
on
that
an
updated
version
of
it,
and
could
you
give
us
any
idea
what
economic
impact
this
billion
dollars
that
the
tax
reform
will
put
back
in
the
economy
next
year?
What
that
will
actually
look
like
to
small
businesses
over
the
course
of
a
year.
H
Yeah
so
I'll
get
back
with
you
on
the
report,
charles
in
our
office,
published
a
works
work
crisis
20
years
in
the
making.
H
That
was
the
most
recent
report
that
we
put
out
over
the
fall
and
it
highlighted
the
that
the
pandemic
heightened
you
know
the
job
openings
across
the
state,
but
for
20
years
we've
been
on
a
decline
and
small
businesses
have
faced
the
brunt
of
majority
of
that.
So
we
look
forward
to
the
legislation.
You
all
are
passing
this
session
to
not
only
benefit
big
businesses
that
we
represent
from
fortune
500s,
but
to
also
the
small
businesses
that
are
behind
me.
J
Thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
welcome
everyone.
Could
I
ask
those
of
you
in
the
audience?
Does
anyone
here
own
a
small
business
with
less
than
10
employees?
Will
you
show
show
of
hands
awesome
so
you're
the
people
I'm
talking
to,
because
that's
the
kind
of
business
that
I
own?
I
also
am
a
small
business
owner
and
I
live
on
a
different
border
than
representative
keith.
I
live
on
the
ohio
border.
My
house
is
six
blocks
from
the
ohio
river
and
for
many
years
I
had
a
business
on
both
sides
of
the
river.
J
If
I
had
known
beforehand,
I
probably
wouldn't
have
done
that
because
at
that
point
I
ended
up
paying
about
13
different
kinds
of
taxes,
because
there's
two
counties:
two
cities,
two
states.
I
will
tell
you
that
ohio
was
much
more
business
friendly.
I
may
have
actually
paid
more
in
business
taxes
in
ohio,
but
it
was
a
lot
easier
for
me
as
a
small
business
owner
to
manage
and
do
the
accounting
for
that.
J
I
do
do
the
day-to-day
accounting
and
the
marketing
for
my
business
and
teach
yoga
classes
and
fix
the
toilet
when
it
breaks,
and
so
the
idea
that
I
then
have
to
collect
six
percent
sales
tax,
create
a
second
bank
account
to
hold
that
and
then
live
in
mortal
fear
that
I'll
mess
something
up
and
get
myself
into
tax
trouble
is
a
real
concern
that
keeps
real
small
business
owners
awake
at
night.
J
J
Those
loans
are
about
to
start
coming
due,
and
I
worry
that
a
lot
of
our
small
businesses
who
are
barely
holding
on
are
now
going
to
have
effectively
a
30-year
mortgage
payment
for
money
that
they
had
to
take
out
and
use
to
keep
their
businesses
running
during
this
time,
and
I
hope
that
this
body
will,
as
a
committee,
really
focus
our
attention
in
the
interim
on
those
true
small
businesses
and
how
we
can
be
most
helpful.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
representative,
sheldon.
G
First
of
all,
thank
you
very
much
great
presentation.
Yeah
I'd
just
like
to
speak
to
you
know.
A
lot
of
us
here
have
got
some
small
business
background.
1988
might
have
been
my
first
last
time.
I
worked
for
anybody
else,
and
I've
been
involved
to
open
up
anywhere
from
eight
to
ten,
I
guess
small
businesses
and,
and
just
in
the
last
decade,
I've
affiliated
with
much
larger
business
in
some
parts
of
my
business.
G
So
I
guess
I've
got
a
perspective
that
some
of
my
small
businesses
I
went
over
to
tennessee
and
and
we've
got
locations
there
still
today,
and
it
is
it's
just
it's
just
so
obvious
when
I'm
over
there
in
nashville
and
I've
got
a
couple
locations
there,
some
stuff
over
in
portland
tennessee,
it's
just
it's
just
night
and
day
when
you're,
when
you're.
Looking
for
folks
and
there's
other
factors
I
get
it,
but
but
boy
you
see
the
difference
in
the
way
the
tax
structure
works.
G
What
we're
shooting
for
here
going
to
a
broader
consumption
tax.
The
fact
that
we
didn't
really
touch
the
corporate
tax
this
time
around,
nor
the
food
nor
the
prescriptions
nor
the
the
essential
things,
and
we
tried
to
touch
services
that,
were,
I
thought,
a
little
more,
broader
and
and
and
right
in
the
line
where
we
needed
to
be
so.
These
are
some
of
the
things
I'm
seeing
in
other
states,
and
I,
I
think,
we're
on
the
right
track.
G
A
Any
other
questions
or
comments
for
the
for
the
our
small
business
owners
here
in
the
crowd.
Well,
if
not,
we
are
adjourned.
Have
a
motion
for
adjournment.
A
Thank
you
guys
and
thank
you
for
everything
you
do
for
the
state
of
kentucky.
67
of
all
the
jobs
created
are
by
us,
so
guys
stay
proud
pride
in
that.
Thank
you
guys.