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A
I
would
ask
that
all
of
our
guests
in
attendance,
if
they
would,
if
you
have
a
cell
phone,
please
turn
that
to
silence
or
vibrate
as
we
conduct
our
business
today,
and
it
seems
to
be
that
for
being
here
for
those
in
attendance
and
others.
If
we
would
secretary
police
call
the
roll,
let's
have
put
together
executive
orders,
which
we
had
here
in
the
commonwealth
of
kentucky.
I
want
to
thank
our
governor
for
his
action
upon
that
was
doing
executive
order,
but
we
also
knew
that
statutorily.
A
We
needed
to
take
the
executive
order
and
put
that
into
place
now.
Many
of
us
may
have
philosophical
differences
about
issues
such
as
name
image,
likeness
or
the
transfer
portal,
or
anything
to
do
with
college
athletics,
but
it
is
the
nature
of
where
we
are
today
in
this
space
and
in
this
time
states
are
now
having
to
grapple
with
the
issue
and
decide
what
is
best,
what's
best
number
one
for
the
university
but
most
importantly,
number
two.
A
I
do
want
to
thank
our
guests
that
are
here
today.
This
bill
is
one
that
we
were
going
to
hear
last
week,
but
because
of
the
weather,
it
caused
us
to
move
our
schedules
and
our
time
frame-
and
I
do
want
to
thank
coach
cao
and
also
mr
barnhart-
for
their
flexibility
to
be
here
with
their
busy
schedule
this
time
of
year.
I'm
going
to
let
mr
or
senator
mcgarvey
excuse
me
kind
of
get
into
more
about
the
bill
and
some
details.
I'm
also
happy
to
answer
any
questions
as
we
move
along.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
members
of
the
committee.
Thank
you
for
our
guests
for
being
here
today.
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
we've
done
before
now,
how
we
got
here
and
where
we're
going
with
this
bill.
This
is
not
the
first
time
this
bill
has
been
up
in
front
of
the
general
assembly.
We
have
dealt
with
this
issue
for
several
years.
I
see
senator
westerfield
on
the
committee.
He
has
worked
on
this
bill
for
a
long
time,
senator
westerfield,
thank
you
for
your
work
on
this
bill.
B
So
how
do
we
get
here
today?
Why
are
the
four
of
us
sitting
at
this
table?
Senator
wise
alluded
to
it.
In
june,
there
was
a
supreme
court
opinion
united
states
supreme
court
opinion,
which
unanimously,
I
don't
think
much
is
done
unanimously.
Right
now,
in
this
country
unanimously
said
that
the
ncaa
needed
to
change
the
way
it
was
treating
its
student
athletes
that
cleared
the
way
for
athletes
to
begin
using
name,
image
and
likeness.
Now
the
reality
is
the
ncaa
is
the
best
body
to
promulgate
the
regulations
for
how
this
whole
thing
works.
B
B
In
june,
the
governor
stepped
up
with
an
executive
order,
just
like
the
governors
in
north
carolina
and
ohio,
and
allowed
a
framework
for
name
image
and
likeness
to
begin
in
kentucky
and
we're
here
today
to
make
sure
that
that
executive
order
doesn't
go
away
and
to
continue
to
improve
upon
the
process
as
we're
all
learning
in
this
new
environment.
Of
what
name,
image
and
likeness
is
so
in
talking
about
what
name,
image
and
likeness.
Is
I
hate
to
do
this?
B
B
If
you're
a
musician
on
scholarship,
you
can
start
a
youtube
channel
or
an
instagram
feed
and
give
lessons
or
promote
your
band
if
you're
an
artist,
you
can
sell
your
paintings
if
you're
a
journalism
student,
you
can
go
work
somewhere
and
do
freelance
writing
you.
Can
you
can
work
at
your
craft?
You
can
promote
yourself.
Our
student
athletes
haven't
had
that
opportunity.
B
B
B
B
B
So
you
know
we
put
some
parameters
in
there.
What
we
also
do,
though,
is
say
to
the
institution
that
the
governing
board
of
these
institutions
they
can
set
further
restrictions,
they're
in
line
with
the
university
and
the
university's
mission,
but
beyond
those
parameters
we
give
broad
latitude
to
the
universities
they're
the
ones
dealing
with
these
student
athletes
and
they
need
the
flexibility
as
this
law
changes
to
be
able
to
change
it.
So
the
governing
board
of
the
institution
can
adopt
the
policy
governing
the
name,
image
and
likeness
agreements
of
the
institutions
student
athletes.
B
We
require
these
regulations
to
be
reasonable.
They
cannot
place
an
undue
burden
on
the
student
athlete's
ability
to
earn
compensation
through
those
name,
image
and
likeness
agreements.
They've
got
to
be
in
writing
to
the
students
they
have
to
be
provided
to
all
student
athletes.
Also,
if
a
student
athlete
enters
into
a
name,
image
and
likeness
agreement
or
wants
to
and
the
university
doesn't
think
it
should,
there
must
be
a
process
for
that
student
to
appeal
that
ruling
in
a
timely
manner.
We
do
want
this
to
be
to
the
benefit
of
the
student
athlete.
B
That's
who
we're
looking
out
for
in
this
bill
and
that's
who
we
want
to
protect.
We
think
it
does,
but
the
the
bill
goes
through
and
it
really,
we
think,
favors
a
student
athlete
while
giving
the
university
still
some
control,
and
I
think
this
is
an
important
piece
too.
B
C
C
We
want
what
is
best
for
them,
while
they're
with
us,
and
we
want
to
do
everything
we
can
to
prepare
them
for
what
president
capilouto
calls
lives
of
meaning
and
purpose
as
part
of
that
commitment
to
putting
students
first,
the
athletics
department
at
the
university
of
kentucky
prepares
students
for
life
after
college
in
a
variety
of
ways.
It's
a
focus
we
have
and
something
we
talk
about
every
day.
C
C
C
We
have
been
preparing
as
a
department
for
this
for
quite
some
time,
even
as
we
also
know
that
many
aspects
of
this
landscape
continue
to
change.
Our
department
has
intensified
our
long-standing
commitment
to
providing
best-in-class
experiences
and
opportunities
for
kentucky's
student-athletes
through
our
kentucky
road
program.
C
The
kentucky
road
includes
resources
to
help
each
of
the
student
athletes
enhance
and
expose
their
personal
brands
among
the
benefits.
Industry-Leading
sport
support
for
leveraging
individual
social
media
presence
through
education,
opportunity
and
data-backed
insights
scholarships
for
former
student-athletes
until
they
achieve
their
bachelor's
degrees,
regardless
of
sport,
and
regardless
of
how
long
they've
been
away
from
the
university
enhanced
financial
literacy
education
to
help
students
make
the
best
financial
decisions
for
themselves
for
the
long
term,
as
well
as
a
number
of
other
initiatives
in
place
and
others
we
are
considering
the
bottom
line.
C
Our
staff
is
an
incredible
track
record
of
expanding
financial
opportunities
for
our
student
athletes
after
their
playing
careers
at
the
university
of
kentucky.
These
opportunities
include
helping
athletes,
develop
toward
professional
sports
leagues,
finding
post-eligibility
scholarships
and
networking
opportunities
engaging
in
job
placement
programs.
I
continue
to
believe
in
the
transformative
power
of
college
athletics.
C
It
is
essential
to
who
we
are
and
what
we
do.
Enhancing
those
services
that
provide
student
athletes
to
empower
them
to
achieve
their
dreams
is
the
dna
of
who
we
are
at
the
university
of
kentucky
athletic
department
and
the
nil
offers
both
challenges
and
opportunities.
With
respect
to
that
steadfast
goal
and
commitment
for
our
student
athletes.
C
There
is
no
question
a
federal
solution
that
creates
a
single
standard
for
all.
Student-Athletes
in
all
states
is
the
best
path
forward,
but
we
also
believe
that
we
shouldn't
wait
for
one
uniform
federal
policy
to
continue
finding
ways
to
support
our
student
athletes
and
ensure
that
they
have
the
best
possible
experience
in
their
of
name
image
and
likeness.
C
In
absence
of
legislation,
we
open
it
to
confusion
and
no
protection
for
our
student
athletes.
Against
that
backdrop,
we
believe
the
legislation
before
you
today,
which
a
number
of
you
have
worked
so
hard
on
in
partnership
with
uk
and
other
universities
in
our
state,
would
do
four
critical
things.
One.
The
bill
expressly
ensures
that
name.
Student
athletes
can
monetize
their
name
image
and
likeness,
while
maintaining
their
eligibility
to
compete
at
the
university
of
kentucky.
C
Two,
the
bill
allows
universities
to
guide
student
athletes
through
policies
that
protect
them
from
entering
into
agreements
that
could
tarnish
their
brand
or
reputation
or
the
brand
and
reputation
of
the
institution
they
attend.
It
allows
for
connection
with
legitimate
organizations
that
are
concerned
and
interested
in
the
welfare
and
ability
for
the
student-athlete
to
enter
this
space
with
integrity
and
confidence.
C
Three,
this
bill
provides
liability
protection
for
coaches
and
athletic
staff.
Members
who
provide
general
guidance
and
education
to
student
athletes.
That's
crucial
because
the
relationship
between
student
athletes
and
their
coaches
and
staff
are
some
of
the
most
meaningful
relationships
that
student
athletes
have
on
campus
and
throughout
their
lives,
they
will
seek
advice
from
the
people.
They
trust
no
one
is
more
trusted
in
that
process
and
in
that
space
than
their
coaches.
C
Lastly,
and
importantly,
there's
a
lot
that
we
don't
know-
and
in
this
bill
accounts
for
the
rapidly
evolving
landscape
and
provides
flexibility
needed
to
help
the
student
athletes
navigate
it
things
are
going
to
continue
to
change
and
evolve.
We
need
that
capacity
and
the
flexibility
to
change
and
evolve
as
well.
C
Developing
student
athletes
toward
their
after
college
career
is
at
the
center
of
what
we
do
that's.
What
we
have
always
done
is
what
we
will
continue
to
do
as
we
move
forward
placing
our
students
first
in
everything
we
do.
I
know
you
share
that
goal
and
that
commitment
we're
appreciative
of
the
spirit
of
the
cooperation
and
collaboration
of
the
work
that
this
group
has
done
on.
This
issue,
as
I
said,
continues
to
evolve
here
and
across
the
country.
So
thank
you
for
all
you've
done.
D
Today,
we
are
met
with
an
opportunity
to
address
this
evolving
issue,
as
the
needs
and
demands
of
my
players
have
changed.
I'm
confident
with
your
interest
as
well
as
mine.
We
will
share
in
creating
the
best
opportunities
for
players
while
at
the
same
time
allowing
men's
basketball
uk
to
remain
the
gold
standard.
E
F
F
One
of
my
concerns
for
the
student
athletes
is
coming
into
a
considerable
sum
of
money
at
the
beginning
of
of
a
career
and
knowing
how
to
deal
with
that
and-
and
I
guess,
trying
to
avoid
unattended
consequences,
but
in
the
bill
it
talks
about
financial
and
and
life,
financial
literacy
and
life
skills
and
five
five
hours
of
instruction
every
two
years.
F
I
guess
it's
my
hope
that
I
know
that
you
run
a
quality
program.
Mr
barnhart,
your
your.
Your
credibility
has
never
been
questioned,
and
I
know
you
work
for
all
the
student
athletes
at
university
of
kentucky,
but
is
there
plans
to
do
more
with
the
student
athletes
to
help
them
with
their
financial
dealings
with
this
money
than
that
they
might
receive
than
what's
in
the
bill?
So.
C
Here,
thank
you
for
the
question
we
when
they
come
as
freshmen
when
they,
especially
if
they
come
in
the
summer,
we
begin
them
immediately
on
the
program.
I
reference
to
my
comments
called
the
kentucky
road.
C
We
have
different
folks
that
we
bring
in
and
we've
we've
brought
in
the
same
young
man
for
about
four
years
now,
three
or
four
years
now-
and
he
comes
in
and
ring,
brings
a
seminar
on
financial
literacy
among
a
variety
of
things
that
we
do
within
the
kentucky
road.
So
our
young
people
get
more
much
more
than
the
five
hours
they
get.
It's
an
ongoing
walk
through
first
year,
then
it's
the
second
year.
C
We
graduate
them
into
a
different
process,
the
third
year,
by
the
time
they
leave.
They
have
foundationally
grown
to
the
point,
they're
ready
to
leave
and
go
do
things
on
their
own,
so
we
feel
very
comfortable
and
the
compliance
our
executive
associate
athletic
director.
Rachel
newman
baker
works
very
closely
with
our
cats
program,
where
our
student
athlete
career
services
and
and
student
athlete
experiences
are
located
and
we,
the
combination
of
all
of
those,
gives
us
the
backdrop
to
be
able
to
provide
them
the
education
they
need
in
that
space.
Very,
very
well,.
B
Chairman,
mr
chairman,
if
I
may
also
address
senator
higgins
question
very
quickly,
you
know
director
barnhart
said
it
well
in
his
remarks.
We
said:
there's
good
guard
rails
in
this
legislation,
some
of
the
guardrails
we
have
in
this
legislation.
I
think,
could
also
be
read
as
some
suggestions
as
well,
and
if
you
look
on
page
eight
of
the
sub
in
in
sub
section
five
there,
it
says
an
institution's
governing
board
may
establish
a
program
to
provide
name
image
and
likeness
agreement,
resources
and
ongoing
support
to
the
institution
student
athletes.
B
So
there's
that
ongoing
support
the
mission
and
the
extent
of
the
program
shall
be
established
by
the
governing
board
and
may
include
providing
impartial
analysis
of
potential
name
image
and
likeness
agreements,
referring
third
parties
and
soliciting
potential
name
image
and
likeness
agreement
to
student
athletes
or
their
athlete
agents,
and
maintaining
educational
resources
on
name
image
and
likeness
for
student
athletes.
So
we
put
that
in
there
as
well.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
coach,
cal,
you've,
obviously
coached
thousands
of
student
athletes
throughout
your
career
straight
ahead
coach,
and
I
know
that
with
the
the
students
that
you
deal
with
the
student
athletes,
you're
always
concerned
about
all
of
that
child.
All
of
that
student,
their
financial
situation,
their
family
situation,
and
I
know
when
you
mentor
them,
you
help
them,
make
decisions
whether
or
not
to
move
on
to
the
nba
sooner
or
later
and
I'd.
I
think
that's
something
that
seems
to
be
somewhat
unique
to
uk,
and
I
commend
you
for
that.
D
Senator
thank
you.
I
my
comment
would
be
the
kids
that
have
made
mistakes
leaving
early
because
of
it
will
stay
now,
if
someone's
a
number
one
draft
pick.
What
I
would
probably
say
to
him
is:
if
you
do,
you
want
to
do
what's
right
for
you
and
your
family,
you
probably
should
go
if
you
want
to
do
what's
right
for
me
and
my
family,
you
probably
should
stay.
D
You
talk
to
the
parents.
Are
you
sure?
I
think
this
would
have
people
saying
if
I'm
not
ready-
and
let
me
say
this-
maybe
a
young
man
that
could
be
drafted
in
the
top
ten
and
he
says,
but
I'm
not
ready,
but
I
have
to
go
but
now
it's
no,
you
don't.
No
you
don't.
You
know,
make
the
right
decision
for
the
long
run
for
your
career,
so
I
believe
the
ones
it
needs
to
help
or
need
to
help
them
make
a
decision.
It
will.
G
I
Thank
you,
mr
chair
to
the
group.
This
is
more
of
a
collective
question,
because
when
this
was
first
brought
to
our
attention,
there
were
several
things
that
we
discussed
and
you've
talked
about
the
bill.
But
why
do
we
need
the
bill,
such
as
safe
harbors
and
what
it
means
to
the
student
related
to
being
in
compliance
or
out
of
compliance
and
the
fact
that
a
state
has
passed
a
statute
to
protect
both
the
institution
and
the
student
as
well
to
the
senators?
I
So
you
know,
I
think,
for
the
purpose
of
understanding
the
process
and
why
it
is
necessary
versus
what
the
bill
does.
However,
you
wish
to
take
it
up
and
discuss
it,
because
that
was
the
first
thing
that
was
brought
to
my
attention
that
if
we
don't
do
something,
we
put
people
at
risk
at
risk
of
what.
C
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
it
senator
cyrus
great
to
see
you
all
and-
and
I
think,
there's
a
variety
of
things
and
I'll
touch
on
them.
I
think
one
we're
seven
months
into
this
and
we
know
so
little
about
it.
We
we
know
a
lot
about
it
on
one
hand,
and
we
don't
know
where
it
goes
from
here,
and
I
think
this
bill
gives
flexibility
to
the
growth
in
that.
C
In
that
that
place,
our
department
has
had
over
800
transactions
that
we
have
on
file
from
our
student
athletes
from
about
250
student
athletes,
so
that
would
clearly
indicate
that
not
every
student
athlete
has
a
desire
to
be
in
that
space,
but
at
those
that
want
to
be
in
that
space,
it
is
really
important
that
we
protect
them
in
that
space.
C
So
we
have
obviously
a
lot
of
student
athletes
that
have
multiple
transactions
and
it
arranges
everything
from
an
unbelievable
representation
of
a
woman
by
the
name
of
messiah
russell
who
runs
on
our
track
and
field
program,
and
she
has
probably
worked
harder
at
her
brand
identity
than
any
athlete
we've
got
in
our
program.
It
is
remarkable
what
she
has
done.
The
way
she
works
at
it
every
day
to
to
do
the
things
she
does
with
social
media,
and
she
has
probably
I'm
guessing
300
300
350
000
followers
and
what
she
does.
C
It's
pretty
remarkable
to
will
levis,
who
I
watched
him
as
he
walked
through
our
football
season,
just
continued
to
navigate
the
space
really
really,
interestingly,
that
other,
I
think
the
things
that
are
risk
for
us
are
literally,
as
this
has
developed
over
the
last
seven
months.
Tens
of
thousands
of
people
nationwide
have
gotten
involved
in
this
space
with
varying
degrees
of
intention,
and
I
think
that
that's
something
that's
really
important
to
understand
is
the
intention
of
everyone
who's
involved.
There's
some
people
do
it
for
competitive
equity
for
their
institutions.
C
C
Some
of
them
want
to
leverage
relationships
for
future
gain,
whether
that
might
be
something
into
agent
representation
and
those
kinds
of
things,
and
you
know,
I
think
that
there's
also
a
reference
check
for
everyone
involved.
It
allows
us
to
have
an
opportunity
to
reference
check
for
everyone
to
be
involved
who's
involved
in
this
space,
so
really
really
important.
C
How
do
we
do
that?
What
is
the
best
pathway
for
us
to
do
this?
This
gives
us
some
guidelines
and
gives
us
some
direction
for
those
people
as
well,
that
have
been
so
loyal
to
these
institutions
for
so
long,
and
I
think
also
we
need
some
ability
to
have
everyone
function
nationally
within
the
same
framework
and
short
of
a
federal
legislative
effort.
This
gives
us
the
ability
to
do
that
kind
of
of
work,
at
least
for
the
time
being
until
something
else
can
come
and
change
down
the
road.
D
D
The
problem
with
that
is
you
don't
have
any
safe
harbor
you
don't
how
about
this
one?
The
ncaa
could
come
back
and
say
you're
wrong,
we're
not
going
to
let
you
do
that
and
now
of
a
sudden
you're
dealing
with
stuff
that
way
the
e.o
some
agreed
some
didn't.
I
thought
it
was
great
and
I
thanked
the
governor
and
other
other
states
followed
suit,
but
this
bill,
I
think
it's
model
bill.
D
D
D
That
is,
a
player
that
plays
basketball
for
us
or
louisville
or
western,
whoever
they
sign
a
contract
for
three
years
in
basketball
because
they
get
them
to
sign
it
for
three
years
they
leave
after
a
year
they're
tied
to
that
contract,
their
rookie
year
in
the
nba
and
their
second
year,
and
maybe
that
contract
they
never
intended
it
for
that.
This
bill
says
to
your
players
that
come
in
this
state.
D
Whatever
you
sign,
when
you
leave,
that
thing
is
null
and
void,
then
someone
said
well.
How
is
that
gov?
Ignorance
is
not
a
defense,
it's
our
state
law.
It
is
not
a
defense,
so
they
are
able
to
do
that.
I
look
at
this
and
say
we
need
this
if
we're
going
and
the
flexibility
that
mitch
talked
about
senator,
we
don't
know
where
this
is
going.
I
do
not
want
to
be
in
the
negotiation
business,
I'm
not
going
to
do
that,
but
this
may
end
up
saying
other
states.
They
can
do
it.
D
What
does
that
force
us
to
do
I'll?
Be
honest
with
you?
I
still
won't
do
it
now.
There
may
be
someone
within
athletics
that
we
appoint,
maybe,
but
that's
way
that
this
thing
gives
us
the
ability,
the
flexibility
if
ohio
and-
and
I
want
to
say
this-
you
understand
alabama-
had
to
repeal
their
bill-
they
just
repealed
it
because
it
was
too
restrictive
and
at
the
time
they
did
it.
They
thought
this
is
great.
B
I'll
just
add
really
quickly
it's
hard
to
follow
coach,
cal
and
my
grandfather
said:
never
sell
past
the
clothes
but
but
senator
to
give
you
an
idea
of
where
this
is
coming
from.
I
pulled
these
bullet
points
off
the
ncaa's
website
and
they
say
that
athletes
can
now
engage
in
name
image
and
likeness.
Athletes
can
use
professional
services
as
part
of
name
image
and
likeness,
and
students
in
states
without
these
laws
can
still
do
it.
B
So
when
you
think
about
that
and
what
you
heard
coach
cal
just
say
about
all
the
ways,
it
benefits
these
kids
all
the
ways
we're
looking
out
in
contract
law
for
18
year
old
kids,
all
the
way
we
are
regulating
this,
giving
the
universities
the
tools
to
help
these
kids.
That's
why
this
law
is
important.
J
Mr
chairman,
thank
you,
and
I
want
to
first
acknowledge
that
chairman,
wise,
you
and
and
senator
garvey
put
a
lot
of
work
into
this
legislation,
because,
over
the
course
of
the
interim,
we
had
a
great
committee
meeting
a
lot
of
question
a
lot
of
answer:
q,
a
discussion.
This
has
been
in
the
works
for
a
period
of
time.
All
of
you
have
spoken
eloquently
coach
director.
Thank
you
for
your
leadership
and
discussion
on
this.
But
again,
let's
go
back
to
the
fact
we're
talking
about
student
athletes
18
to
24
years
of
age.
J
This
student
is
stepping
likely
onto
a
college
campus
for
the
first
time
as
a
freshman.
It's
a
new
world
to
this,
this
young,
talented,
male
or
female.
The
way
the
law
is
written
at
any
of
our
public
or
private
post-secondary
institutions,
so
they're
in
this
new
world
and
now
today,
because
of
nil,
it's
a
brand
new
world
we're
getting
ready
to
write
rules
around
what
this
brand
new
world
looks
like
it's
a
21-page
piece
of
legislation,
that's
been
well
thought
out
and
and
worked
on
striking
that
balance.
J
Sir
mcgarvey,
that
you
talked
about
of
the
framework
and
the
parameters
and
coach,
you
referenced
the
chaos
in
alabama,
as
they
had
to
to
rethink
what
they
had
done.
Finding
that
balance
to
protect
that
young
person
allow
the
institution
to
do
all
it
can
do
to
a
point
to
help
this
young
person
navigate.
This
path
is
the
precedent
for
my
question
around
the
language
that
we
see
in
the
sub,
specifically
on
page
five.
J
J
If
you
would,
because
our
current
language
says
institutions
shall
not
negotiate
any
part
of
an
nil
agreement
on
behalf
of
a
current
or
prospective
student
athlete
keep
the
perspective
as
something
you
can't
do
for
inducement,
but
boy.
Once
we
get
them
on
campus,
these
young
people
they
they
need
what
these
institutions
can
do.
C
Senator
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
question
I'm
going
to
let
cal
finish
after
I
open
with
a
comment
or
two,
I
think
he's
got
some
real
perspective.
As
a
coach,
I
would
say
that
our
heartbeat
of
who
we
are
is
education
and-
and
I
don't
ever
want
to
lose
sight
of
that
we
are
absolutely
an
educational
enterprise
first
and
foremost.
Secondly,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
give
young
people
an
opportunity
to
pursue
their
their
dreams
to
participate
at
the
highest
level
of
division.
C
One
college
athletics
at
the
university
of
kentucky
or
other
institutions
in
our
state
in
our
in
our
particular
situation,
the
southeastern
conference.
So
that's
really
really
important.
The
third
thing
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
do
is
we
have
a
phrase.
We
say
we
want
to
equip
them
to
launch
them,
equip
them
for
life,
and-
and
that's
it's
really,
you
can
you
say
it's
a
cliche,
it's
it's!
It's
not
it's!
We
live
by
that
and
we've
done
that
effectively.
C
Well,
for
the
time
that
I've
been
the
director
of
athletics
and,
and
certainly
what
coach
cal
has
done
in
terms
of
his
his
tenure
at
the
university
of
kentucky
for
over
a
decade
now,
so
I
think
that's
really
important
our
dna.
What
we
do
is
about
education
and
it's
about
preparing
them
on
the
field
and
for
life.
So
with
that
premise
in
mind,
what
our
dna
is
probably
not
is
is
in
terms
of
being
able
to
negotiate
deals
for
them.
C
That
is
not
who
I
don't
think
we're
supposed
to
be
at
this
point
in
time,
but
I
do
believe
it
is
our
opportunity,
our
responsibility,
to
provide
the
connection
between
them
and
people
that
may
be
interested.
Let
me
give
you
an
example:
someone
calls
our
office
and
this
has
occurred.
They
call
our
office
and
say
we
would
really
like
to
get
in
touch
with
athlete
x
or
y.
Whatever
that
happens
to
be,
we
would
like
to
do
something
with
them
in
this
nil
space
outstanding.
C
Let
us
connect
you
with
their
representative,
who
is
better
inclined
and
has
a
liability
to
work
with
them
or
a
live
contract
to
work
with
them
in
this
space,
and
almost
all
of
our
student
athletes
have
created
that
representation
either
through
their
families
or
through
themselves
or
through
someone
else,
and
that
is
coming
from
a
variety
of
places,
and
there
is
a
safe
space
in
that.
For
us,
it
gives
us
the
ability
to
connect
those
dots
so
rather
than
us
being
in
the
negotiation
space.
We
are
telling
them.
C
Please
go
to
your
representative,
who
has
your
personal
interest
and
knows
you
better
than
probably
anybody
else
in
this
area,
and
and
you
create
that
that
opportunity-
whether
that's
your
family,
member
or
someone
else,
and
then
that
keeps
our
coaches
doing
what
they
do
best
and
that's
coaching
their
teams
and
creating
the
culture
in
the
locker
rooms
that
we're
trying
to
do
and
we
take
to
floor.
And
then
they
equip
equip
them
in
amazing
other
ways.
But
that
is
probably
not
our
expertise
or
dna,
and
we
would
hesitate
to
be
able
to
make
deals.
C
That
might
not
be
very
good
for
them.
That
might
not
be
our
expertise.
If
someone
asked
me
about
social
media
posts-
and
I
said
you
know
what
I
think
you're
worth
this-
and
I
missed
it
by
about
a
number
that
would
be
a
problem.
Okay,
so
I
don't
want
to,
but
I
do
know
I
can
turn
to
coach
cal
and
say:
how
did
you
manage
that
situation
in
our
locker
room
he'll
manage
that
top
top
shelf
of
anybody
in
the
country,
so
cal
I'll
defer
to
you.
D
Senator
that
your
question
there's
not
a
coach
in
the
country
that
wants
to
be
in
the
middle
of
negotiating
contracts,
but
but
there's
a
state
a
little
north
of
us
that
just
put
a
law
in
that
said
they
could.
D
So.
My
point
is
again
flexibility.
How
do
we
make
this?
We
don't
want
to
do
it,
it's
not
what
we
want
to
do,
but
three
years
from
now,
do
we
really
want
to
come
back
and
change
this
bill?
So
how
do
we
make?
I
don't
know
that
that's
I'm!
I'm
struggling
just
coaching
basketball,
so
I
will
tell
you
that
it
would
be
something
that
I
would
say.
How
do
we
make
this
flexible?
D
So
we
could,
let
me
say
when
you
say
inducements,
you
can't
do
stuff
with
kids
that
are
in
high
school,
that
you
you
just
you
can't
we
as
a
whether
it
be
the
sec.
The
ncaa
they've
got
to
deal
with
that.
But
I'll
say
this
basketball
players
don't
come
to
kentucky
because
of
nil.
D
D
Five
graduated
in
three
years:
we've
also
had
them
graduate
to
the
nba
and
right
now
their
salaries
are
three
billion
dollars
and
within
three
years,
it'll
be
five
billion
they're
not
coming
here
for
fifty
thousand
of
nil
money
or
a
hundred
thousand,
but
the
same
thing
holds:
how
do
we
have
mitch
the
ability
to
look
at
this
in
a
year
or
two
to
say
this?
Isn't
what
we
want,
but
we're
getting
clobbered
and
kentucky
basketball
is
the
gold
standard
it
is.
People
are
looking
to
us.
D
A
Sergeant
gibbons,
thank
you
for
the
question
and
coach
is
exactly
right
as
well
as
mr
barnhart.
You
know
it's
become
with
nil,
maybe
even
before
that
an
arms
race
in
terms
of
schools
competing
and
with
what
we're.
Seeing
with
this
legislation
and
other
states
legislation,
it
is
daily
weekly
of
things
we're
having
to
track
things,
we're
having
to
make
changes
in
this
bill
and
and
you're
right.
A
We
also
when
we
leave
here
after
60
days.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
this
bill
is
fine-tuned
because
we're
not
gathering
back
in
we're
not
going
to
be
back
in
for
a
while
after
we
leave
here,
and
we
want
that
flexibility
and
it's
built
in
here.
We
want
a
good
product
and
I
do
think
this
bill
will
be
a
model,
and
I
appreciate
coach
cal
saying
that
I
do
think
other
states
are
going
to
look
at
this,
but
also
this
is
a
bill.
That's
going
to
continuously
have
changes
made
to
it.
A
B
Yeah
and
I'll
just
I'll
just
add,
remember
what
I
said
at
the
beginning.
The
ncaa
should
have
handled
this.
They
didn't
congress
should
have
handled
this.
They
haven't
it's
up
to
us
and
in
being
up
to
us,
we've
got
to
have
that
flexibility
in
here
for
all
of
our
universities
in
kentucky,
not
just
the
university
of
kentucky
represented
here
today,
but
all
of
our
universities
and
all
of
our
student
athletes
and
senator
gibbons.
I
think
that's
a
great
question.
J
Colleagues,
that
may
be
the
best
way
to
go
is
take
a
look
at
a
floor
amendment
and
my
my
thinking.
There
is
along
the
lines
of
we'd
hate,
to
see
the
headline
that
a
program
has
not
violated
an
ncaa
rule,
but
they've
broken
a
state
law
that
would
be
a
headline.
We
definitely
would
not
want
to
see
and
the
way
it's
written
negotiate
any
part.
J
Does
that
mean
that
that
when
someone
shows
up
and
tries
to
to
sign
as
a
representative
for
that
student
athlete
after
they're
on
your
campus
and
maybe
you've
got
knowledge
director
that
this
rep
is
not
the
most
reputable
representative,
you
can't
say
to
that
student
yeah.
I
don't
know
about
that.
That
organization
they're
not
the
best
to
work
with
that,
could
potentially
be
misinterpreted
as
negotiating.
So
let's
have
a
whole
thought
on
it,
but
we
may
want
to
take
a
look
at
it.
Thank
you.
E
H
Thank
you,
mr
mr
chair.
My
question
is
directed
to
either
senator
mcgarvey
or
senator
wise
and
discussions.
I've
had
recently
about
this
piece
of
legislation
with
with
my
friends
and
with
the
public
deal
with
the
reach
of
this
bill.
How
far
does
it
reach
in
parameters,
and
so
I
want
to
direct
your
attention
to
page
three
beginning
on
line
14
that
defines
student
athlete
and
tell
me
if
I'm
correct
or
or
incorrect.
H
My
understanding
is
that
this
this
bill
begins
to
kick
in
as
soon
as
a
student
who
may
be,
who
may
be
in
high
school,
declares
that
I
want
to
come
to
university
kentucky
to
play
sports
basketball,
football
softball,
whatever
that's
that's
when
this
bill
kicks
in,
and
it
continues
until
such
time
as
that
student
athlete
elizabeth
determinates
during
their
senior
year
or
as
early
as
their
freshman
year
when
they
say
I
want
to
declare
and
go
pro.
Am
I
correct
that
that
is
those
are
the
parameters
that
is
the
reach
of
this
building?
B
That
that's
correct,
senator
thomas
on
point,
senator
thomas
represents
the
university
of
kentucky,
but
senator
thomas
one
important
distinction
there.
They
must
have
signed
a
national
letter
of
intent.
It
cannot
be
a
declaration,
they
must
have
signed
a
contract
before
university
can
talk
to
them
about
these
things.
E
That
is
the
final
word
for
today.
Thank
you
for
your
presentation.
We
have
a
motion
on
senate
bill
six,
as
amended
by
committee
substitute.
We
have
a
motion
by
senator
stivers.
Do
we
have
a
second
senator
wilson?
I
believe
it
was
the
first
second
clerk.
Please
call
the
roll.
I
Explain
my
vote.
Mr
chairman,
please
proceed
explain
my
I
vote
as
it
has
been
discussed
here
that
certain
people
haven't
acted
but
for
the
chamber
for
which
I
preside.
We
have
acted
and
we've
acted
in
a
bipartisan
way.
Therefore,
I
vote.
I.
A
Briefly
explain
my
vote.
Please
proceed,
mr
chairman.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity.
Many
times
we
look
at
bills
and
legislation.
We
see
the
sponsors
besides
names
and
those
of
us
who
vote
for
it,
but
I've
got
to
get
a
lot
of
credit
to
our
lrc
bill.
Drafter
on
this
josh
collins,
who's
immediately
to
your
left,
josh
collins
worked
and
researched
on
this
bill
diligently
painstakingly
josh.
A
I
want
to
personally
thank
you
for
the
blood
sweat
tears
that
you
put
into
this
because,
as
coach
said
and
mr
barnhart,
if
it's
model
legislation,
it
was
your
work
that
helped
do
this.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
want
to
thank
all
the
universities
across
the
commonwealth,
who
worked
with
myself
and
with
senator
mcgarvey
on
this.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Thank.
E
You,
maybe
you
can
give
a
discussion
in
csl
on
this
topic.
Next
year
we
have
10,
I
votes
zero,
no
votes
senate
bill
6,
as
amended
by
the
committee
substitute
passes
with
favorable
expression.
I
appreciate
all
the
speakers
today:
chairwise
senator
mcgarvey
coach
cow
director
barnhart.
This
is
a
serious
subject
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
preventing
bad
outcomes
and
I
don't
know
what
would
happen
if
I
was
a
18
year
old,
with
200
thousand
in
my
pocket
going
start
in
class.
But
thank
you
for
your
guidance
on
this
important
topic.