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C
Me
to
do
that
again.
No,
I
think,
okay,
great
all
right.
Thank
you.
So
today
we're
here
to
talk
with
you
about
the
federal
funding
for
child
care
and
how
that's
being
distributed.
What
the
time
frame
is
the
amounts,
so
you
can
see
where
we're
going
what's
being
distributed.
Where
and
just
see
for
yourselves,
it's
a
it's
a
large
unprecedented
amount
of
money
going
into
the
child
care
system
in
kentucky.
C
I
think
it's
a
very
good
thing,
certainly
needed
and
sarah,
if
we'll
start
off
there
are
three
really
big
pots
of
money.
Part
is
the
the
coronavirus
leaked
fact.
That's
was
almost
68
million
dollars,
the
the
carissa
funds,
which
is
really
close
to
196
million
dollars
and
then
the
arpa
funds,
which
then,
as
you
can
see
it,
gets
up
to.
You
know
seven,
almost
750
million
dollars
going
in
so
all
tall.
C
You
can
see
that
that
is
a
large
amount
of
funding
to
go
into
and
support
the
child
care
system,
and
what
I
think
is
been
very
important,
as
we've
gone
through
the
pandemic
is
the
identification
of
the
importance
of
child
care
to
the
entire
system,
to
how
folks
work,
how
folks
get
to
employment
it
is.
It
is
something
I
think,
we've
we've
all
undervalued
for
years,
and
it
is
just
it
is
absolutely
critical
to
to
economic
development
and
economic
supports
across
the
commonwealth
in
house
joint
resolution.
C
57
we
were
looking
at
benefits.
Cliffs
was
part
of
the
discussion
and
really
where
we
ended
up,
was
the
the
largest
cliff
really
when
you,
when
you
look
at
all
the
different
programs
in
there,
there
are
some
pathways
off
of
some
of
the
others.
Child
care
is
the
big
one.
Child
care
is
the
where
you
really
come
up
against
when
you
either
get
child
care
or
don't
that
is
it's
a
tremendous
difference,
and
and
probably
in
terms
of
the
contributions
to
the
cliff,
I
would
say,
child
care
is
the
biggest
contribution.
C
So
here
next
slide
thanks.
So
here's
how
to
think
about
how
we've
done
and
distributed
the
funds
out
of
the
cares
act,
you
can
see
the
ccap
assistance,
which
is
really
direct
child
care,
stipends,
those
kinds
of
things,
stabilization
payments,
what
that
means
is
as
as
based
on
occupancy,
not
on
attendance.
C
We
provided
funding
and
providing
funding
for
child
care
centers
to
to
to
keep
open
hero
bonuses.
You
all
know
well
those
stabilization
payments
again,
another
tranche
of
those
and
then
some
of
the
limited
duration
pieces
right
in
the
beginning.
C
We
asked
some
folks
to
stay
open
and
and
help
us
with
our
healthcare
workers
first
responders,
it's
a
very
small
piece
of
this
entire
funding
stream,
but
just
just
to
let
you
know
what
that
is,
then
the
carissa
funding
again
the
stabilization
payments
again
just
keeping
places
open
and
then
some
of
the
health
and
safety
pieces
that
having
to
do
with
with
these
right
with
masks
with
cleaning
supplies,
all
sorts
of
things
like
that
and
then
helping
take
care
of
co-payments
for
families
as
they
go
through
the
centers.
C
This
is
this
is
a
big
change.
We
senator
meredith.
You
helped
us
with
that.
In
medicaid,
with
this
funding,
we've
been
able
to
eliminate,
while
this
funding
lasts
some
of
the
co-payments
for
parent
parents.
So
again,
that's
that's
the
that's
that
funding.
So
we
have
some
remaining
funds
there
we're
going
to
continue
the
co-pays
as
long
as
we
can
we're
going
to
continue
the
cost
of
background
checks,
because
we
do
ask
folks
to
do
background
checks
and
that
got
a
little
difficult
through
the
pandemic.
Who
was
open?
C
Who
was
not
how
you
could
get
it
so
we've
been
supporting
that
throughout
and
these
all
all
these
funds
have
to
be
fully
expended
by
september,
30th
2023,
and
I
we
believe
we'll
be
able
to
do
that.
It
is
something
that
we're
good
at
at
the
cabinet.
Next
slide,
arpa
stabilization
funds
again
there.
What
we
did
was
we
spread
out
the
stabilization
funds.
C
So
in
this,
in
this
case
there
were
different
times
that
we
would
process
the
funds
to
encourage
people
to
stay
open
right
and
and
and
then
to
support
them
over
a
longer
period
of
time.
So
it
wasn't
like
one
big
chunk
of
funds,
and
then
somebody
could
just
close.
So
we
just
we
kept
this
going
and-
and
this
is
continuing-
so
that's
that's-
that's
an
important
piece.
C
We
sent
out
the
first
round
the
we've
now
getting
ready
to
send
out
the
second
round
folks
had
to
supply
us
with
information
to
receive
these
funds.
There's
some
federal
requirements
around
these,
and
so
I
think
a
few
of
them
didn't
make
it
this
time
out
of
the
1700.
C
But
it
was
a
very
few
who
weren't
able
to
supply
the
information
in
time.
Then
we
do
that
on
capacity,
as
I
said
earlier,
not
just
attendance
and
again
same
time
frame
september,
30,
2023
next
slide,
so
the
child
care
development
block
grant
should
have
spelled
that
out.
The
204
out
of
that
is
is
dedicated
to
that
subsidy,
which,
which
really
means
the
subsidy
piece,
is
where
we've
kind
of
had
the
ability
to
increase
from
the
40th
percentile
of
income
up
to
the
80th.
C
This
has
really
helped
families
be
able
to
access
the
services
that
had
previously
not
been
able
to
the
that's
the
payment,
the
the
eligibility
piece
from
160
of
poverty,
200
of
poverty.
That's
really,
I
think,
been
helpful
to
more
families,
and
basically
we
it
it.
It
does
have
a
feature
of
you
know
how
families
get
out
get
through
and
from
ccap
onto
the
onto
their
own
funds.
Again
this.
This
has
this.
We
have
an
additional
year
for
these
funds,
and
this
has
really
been
the.
C
We
have
to
supply
a
lot
of
data
through
this,
and
this
is
a
support
it's
like
medicaid.
This
is
why
I
think
about
it
or
snap
or
without
these
payments,
our
child
care
system,
just
in
general,
would
collapse
so
next
slide,
and
then
there
were
some
specific
questions
around
how
these
funds
were
used.
C
A
couple
of
things,
the
I'll
start
with
a
second
first,
we
in
the
last
round
provided
some
stipends
for
what
are
the
small,
registered
and
certified
homes
so
think
of
these,
as
like
the
family
homes
right
there,
they're,
three
or
so
different
children
who
are
not
related,
and
we
we
in
kentucky.
This
is
not
a
category,
we're
usually
a
little
small
on
this
category.
When
you
compare
us
to
other
states,
so
we
were
really
trying
to
beef
that
up
and
think
about
it.
C
As
entrepreneurial
activity
within
the
child
care
system
ecosystem,
so
this
is
supporting
that
really
small
center
that
wouldn't
necessarily
be
licensed
like
the
rest
of
those
centers,
but
it's
in
home,
like
an
in-home
child
care
center.
We
had
about
42
that
came
through,
and
the
other
good
thing
about
this
is
where
they
have
started
up
primarily
has
been
in
child
care
deserts.
C
So
this
has
been
a
a
really
interesting
program
and
I
I'm
excited
about
it
because
it
it
starts
to
talk
about
how
we
support
entrepreneurial
activity
across
the
commonwealth
and
it's
it's
it's
the
commonwealth,
supporting
that.
So
it's
a
2500
stipend
that
we
we
give
folks
so
that
they
can
begin
their
own
centers
because
of
that
or
in
tandem
with
that,
going
back
up
to
the
first
one.
C
We
have
we're
also
providing
100
000
matching
grants
for
folks
who
want
to
become
licensed
centers
to
employers
to
others
who
want
to
open
those
license.
Centers,
that's
just
opened
up
in
terms
of
making
application,
we're
partnering
with
the
chamber
of
commerce
to
let
folks
know
that
this
is
available
and-
and
I'm
saying
it
every
time
I
can
so
we're
really
excited
about
the
possibility
of
expanding
the
number
of
child
care
centers
across
the
commonwealth,
and
I
think
that
that's
really
something
that
we
we
need.
C
There
are
some
things
where
they
can
apply
and,
and
we've
had
some
and
we've
provided
some,
where
we're
really
we're
we're
going
to
be
able
to
help
the
infrastructure,
so
some
one-time
costs,
as
opposed
to
ongoing
costs,
where
we'll
make
improvements
and
help
centers
make
improvements
in
their
physical
plant.
C
We're
also
providing
some
early
childhood
scholarships
again
to
increase
the
supply
child
care.
Centers,
we
haven't
seen
a
lot
close.
We've
seen
some
clothes,
but
what
we
have
seen
is
a
lack
of
workers
in
these
centers
where
they've
had
to
close
classrooms
and
they
can't
provide
the
capacity
that
they
had
in
the
past.
So
this
kind
of
gets
these
these
apprenticeships,
these
early
childhood
scholarships.
C
They
will
help
increase
the
pipeline.
Some
of
what
we're
talking
about
with
nursing
right.
Some
of
the
same
kind
of
concept
so
really
trying
to
increase
that
pipeline
of
folks
who
are
interested
in
early
childhood
development,
who
could
then
go
work
in
child
care
centers,
and
then
we
have
some
also
training
dollars
that
are
focused
on
special
needs
and
administration.
C
We
know
that
sometimes
folks
get
into
child
care
because
they're
interested
in
child
care
and
children
and
and
helping
children
across
the
commonwealth,
but
sometimes
they
don't
have
that
business
training
and
that
administration
training.
So
some
of
this
funding
is
dedicated
towards
that
to
provide
that
that
support
for
center
directors,
who
would
then
be
able
to
have
a
little
more
on
on
that
sort
of
business
side,
because
this
it's
a
business
and
so
the
other
piece
next
slide
is
we
have
some
public-private
partnerships
with
school
districts
and
preschool.
C
That
is
is
exciting.
It
really
helps
kids
with
special
needs
and
that's
you
all
know.
I've
been
at
the
cabinet
for
112
years
and
it
was
at
the
commission
for
children
with
special
healthcare
needs
for
a
while,
and
that
was
always
a
challenge.
Finding
child
care
for
kids
with
disabilities
is
has
is
difficult,
is
very
difficult,
so
we're
hoping
to
increase
that
increase
some
of
that
capacity,
and
then
you
can
see.
C
Some
of
this
is
technological
upgrades
and
things
like
that
again,
just
trying
to
help
the
infrastructure
and
again
trying
to
use
some
of
these
funds,
which,
which
is
really
just
so
that
so
that
when
these
funds
go
away,
we'll
be
able
to
have
a
better
system
and
a
stronger
system.
Moving
forward
next
slide,
and
I
think
we're
ready
for
questions.
A
Thank
you,
mr
secretary
for
the
presentation
today,
I'm
going
to
kick
us
off.
I've
got
two
questions,
one
of
which
is
pretty
black
and
white.
The
other
is
a
little
more
theoretical
on
slide.
Seven,
you
referenced
that
approximately
15
of
the
child
care
slots
in
the
state
are
children
receiving
subsidy
prior
to
the
cares
act.
So
the
first
round
of
funding.
Do
you
have
an
idea
of
about
how
many
what
that
percentage
would
have
been?
I
don't
think
it's
changed.
D
A
So
my
fear
was
obviously
if
it
had
been
like
three
or
four
percent
prior
to
that.
We're
gonna
have
a
real
right
issue
heading
our
way.
Secondly,
this
is
the
more
theoretical
one,
the
startup
funds
for
family
child
care
homes.
A
A
Especially
when
you
start
adding
in
the
requirements
of
you
know
some
of
the
things
to
obtain
money
through
the
cabinet,
how
does
2500
even
necessarily
compete
in
that
environment,
or
is
it
a
space
that
we
necessarily
even
want
to
try
to
compete?
A
C
Helped
so,
as
I
said
about,
42
have
taken
us
up
on
that
offer,
which
I
think
is,
I
don't
know
if
they
were
existing
or
not.
I
hope
that
they
weren't,
but
it
has
been
helpful
and
I
think
if
we
can
incentivize
folks
to
think
about
that
type
of
entrepreneurial
activity,
when
I
was
at
louisville
metro
government,
we
had
a
small,
very
small
micro
business,
entrepreneurial
support.
I
love
that
program.
I
thought
that
was
a
fantastic
program
to
get
folks
trained
and
to
get
people
into
doing
things
that
they
loved.
C
We
had
a
range
from
like
accounting
to
cleaning
services
to
food
services
to
art,
and
I
about
a
50
success
rate.
Frankly,
with
that,
we've
had
a
little
better
here
so
far,
but
we'll
need
to
see
where
that
comes
in
a
couple
of
years
to
be
able
to
talk
about
that
and
say
to
tell
you
it
was
a
success,
but
so
far
it
has
been,
and
I
I
I
really
like
that
idea.
C
It's
something
that
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
do
more
of
in
the
cabinet,
which
is
why
this
particular
piece
was
very
exciting
to
me,
and
I
think
we
can
of
course,
they're
going
to
be
underground
economy,
sorts
of
pieces
that
that
will
exist.
But
I
think
if
we
can
encourage
folks
to
come
in
and
be
a
part
of
like
getting
background
checks
and
things
like
that
and
support
them
doing
that.
I
think
I
think
everyone
benefits.
E
E
One
of
the
main
reasons
we
ask
you
all
to
be
here
this
morning
is,
as
we
move
into
the
the
budget
for
the
senate
and
in
looking
at
what
our
needs
are
in
the
child
care
industry
to
to
get
more
centers
open
to
increase
the
workforce.
Things
that
you
all
have
addressed
through
this
funding.
E
We
kind
of
need
more
direction
on
what
you
all
feel
we
can
do
and
what
areas
we
need
to
invest
more
in
to
get
where
we
need
to
be
and
that
that's
a
component
of
it.
And
then
we
as
I've
spoken
with
dr
van
over.
We
also
hope
to
have
a
joint
resolution
during
the
session
to
put
together
a
task
force
to
study
child
care
in
the
state
and
hopefully
at
the
end
of
that,
have
a
plan
to
completely
restructure
child
care
into
a
very
sustainable
model
in
the
future.
E
So
we
can
take
care
making
sure
we
have
quality,
centers
and
senator
gibbons
in
districts
like
his
to
make
sure
we
have
child
care
at
all,
and
so
two
fronts
that
we're
obviously
gonna
have
to
be
working
on.
But
right
now,
where
we
are,
is
trying
to
to
get
the
best
investment
to
to
move
us
forward
in
the
area
of
opening
additional
centers.
What
recommendations
do
you
have,
mr
secretary
or
dr
van
over
on
what
direction?
Where
can
we
best
appropriate
any
additional
funds?
E
C
Sure,
thank
you
for
that
question
and
and
thank
you
for
your
work
on
behalf
of
centers
all
across
kentucky
really
really
do
appreciate
that.
So,
of
course,
we
support
the
governor's
budget
and
I
think
I
really
welcome
a
group
to
look
at
child
care
and
the
structure
of
child
care
in
the
interim.
C
I
think
you
we're
gonna
be
able
to
provide
you
data
from
what
we're
doing
with
these
funds
about
what
looks
like
it's,
working
and
and
and
frankly,
we'll
have
some
things
that
don't
work
that
we'll
always
see
that
so
and
you
see
our
general
direction
right,
it
is
and
and
it's
we're
taking
it
in
a
lot
of
areas-
how
to
increase
the
pipeline
of
personnel
right,
that's
going
to
be
critical
right
so
and
then,
what's
that
pay
structure
look
like,
and
and
what's
how
are
we
going
to
couple
some
of
this?
C
How
are
we
going
to
couple
some
state
investment
with?
What's
going
on
with
the
federal
money?
I
I'm
I'm
really
excited.
I
hope
I'm
not
setting
myself
up
for
disappointment
about
some
of
the
setup
funds
and
the
matching
funds
for
for
more
centers
to
come
online.
C
To
see
if
that
to
see,
if
that
has
an
impact,
I
know
that
there
are
there's
interest
on
the
part
of
employers,
because
they've
seen
what's
happened
to
their
workforce
when
they
don't
have
child
care
right
and
if,
if,
if
the
the
assistance,
if
the,
where
the
word
go,
the
the
the
grants,
then
the
matching
grants
can
encourage
more
folks
to
open
up,
and
if
that's,
if
that's
a
good
number
right,
is
that
a
good
number
will
that
will
that
get
folks
coming
out?
C
I
think
we're
going
to
see
some
of
that
and
then
also
that
just
kind
of
partnership
across
the
board,
with
not
only
schools
but
with
community
organizations.
How
else
can
we
support
more
folks
having
child
care
and
even
some
of
our
universities
or
how
are
they
gonna
partner?
And
I
think
that's
when
you
talk
about
how
we
bring
in
and
maybe
change
the
structure?
C
I
think
that's
gonna
be
a
really
telling
piece
for
what
we
do
so
and
and
even
with
preschool
for
universal
4k
right,
there's
a
lot
of
money
here.
How
do
we
make
sure
that
we
support
the
infrastructure,
whether
that's
enhanced
reimbursement
for
infants
and
toddlers?
Right?
That's,
that's
where
folks
always
say
they
lose
money.
Well,
let's
pay
people
what
we
need
to
pay
them
right.
I
think
that's!
C
I
think
how
we
structure
this
moving
forward
and
again,
I
I
welcome
a
group
to
look
at
it
and
work
and
work
with
you
all.
I
think
we
can.
I
think
we
can
come
up
with
ways.
I
hope
we
can
come
up
with
ways
that
support
the
structure
across
the
commonwealth
for
child
care,
because
it's
one
of
the
underpinnings
of
employment.
E
Okay,
the
the
model
with
with
our
high
schools-
and
I
know
many
high
schools-
have
child
care
programs
within
the
districts.
D
It's
a
small
number:
the
high
schools
would
qualify
for
those
matching
grants,
so
they
would
be
eligible
to
apply
for
the
hundred
thousand
dollar
matching
grant
if
the
the
school
was
able
and
it's
up
to
a
hundred
thousand,
so
they.
If
they
already
have
a
room,
then
they
wouldn't
need
the
whole
amount.
But
we
do
have
city
governments
or
high
schools
that
may
be
interested
in
that
fund.
That
would
be
able
to
set
up
something
similar
and
many
of
the
high
school
students.
C
And
I've
even
had
conversations
with
some
of
the
private
universities
who
might
be
interested
as
well
and
a
lot.
My
again,
I
used
to
be
over
family
resource
centers
too,
but
some
of
the
youth
service
centers
right
when
they
opened
up
really
identified
child
carers
need,
but
it
was
not.
It
was
not
an
across-the-board.
You
know
they
they
do
their
own
local
planning,
but
there
were
a
few
that
really
tried
to
get
into
child
care
and,
as
you
say,
for
some
of
that
experiential
reason
as
well.
Okay,.
E
And
I'll
one
more,
if
I
may,
mr
chairman,
a
lot
of
discussion
on
the
the
model
with
universal
pre-k,
and
I
know
the
governor
supporting
the
public
model,
I
don't
think
that's
feasible.
I
think
we
need
to
continue
the
path
we've
been
on
with
the
blended
model.
I
think
it's
that's
the
best
possible
approach
plus
we
do
not
want
to
risk
losing
more
child
care
centers
in
the
state
by
taking
the
preschool
kids
away
from
those
centers.
E
So
I
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
to
be
had
on
that
and-
and
I
assume
that
will
be
part
of
our
our
discussions
during
the
interim
the
issue
on
pay.
I
know
the
sustainability
grants
are
based
on
the
level
of
pay,
and
so
we
should
get
some
data
on
how
that
works
as
far
as
those
centers
that
are
paying
the
15
and
above
and
those
are
at
13,
I
think
it's
the
next
tier
are,
you
all
see.
Have
you
all
been
able
to
glean
anything
so
far
from
from
that?
E
D
C
Yeah
I'd
say
it's
a
little
too
early,
but
I
think
we're
going
to
have
more
data
for
you
as
we
look
at
these
things
in
the
interim
you
know
I
I
always
look
at
like
what's
best
for
kids
right
and
I
think
if
we
can
bring
up
our
kindergarten
readiness
scores
right.
How
how
we
do
that
is
is
is
what
I
think
is
is
is
most
important
for
us
to
do
to
get
kids
kindergarten
ready
and
school
ready.
We
need
we,
we
need
to
pay
attention.
To
that.
That's
been
a
challenge.
A
F
Mr
thank
you
great
to
have
the
two
of
you
here.
I'm
gonna
move
through
a
rapid
fire
conversation
with
you,
so
just
just
run
with
me.
Okay,
what
you've
shown
us
is
an
amazing
amazing
amount
of
money
flowing
in
really
quickly
for
a
time
limited
period.
So
I'm
going
to
throw
a
crazy
idea
at
you
that
may
or
may
not
fly,
but
we
do
have
the
deserts
and
one
of
the
biggest
struggles
is
a
talented
caregiver,
grandparent
stay-at-home.
F
Dad
may
say
I
want
to
take
care
of
some
kids
I'm
good
at
this,
but
I
don't
want
to
deal
with
all
the
paperwork,
bureaucracy
and
headaches.
One-Time
monies
you've
got
that
are
crazy
amounts
of
money.
Think
about
some
sort
of
a
family
care,
family,
child
care,
bounty
hunter
model,
go
to
the
private
sector
and
say
private
sector.
You
know
how
to
stand
up.
F
Businesses,
bring
your
talents
to
stand
up
an
in-house
eight
eight
person,
child
care
center
and
for
everyone
you
get
stood
up
and
get
star
rated
at
the
one
star
level
or,
however,
you
want
to
do
it.
We're
going
to
give
you
two
thousand
dollars,
but
you
got
to
get
them
up
in
six
months.
Think
crazy!
That's
that's!
You
don't
have
to
answer.
Just
take
that
thought
with
you
now
slide
with
me
quickly.
F
This
is
rapid
fire,
yes
slide
with
me
quickly
back
to
slide
two,
these
stabilization
payments,
470
million
dollars
in
arpa
funding
again
this
is
not
one
you've
got
to
respond
to
just
think
with
me.
We've
got
time
limited
amounts
of
space
to
get
the
money
spent
in.
Can
you
charge
admin
cost
out
of
this.
F
C
F
You
know
where
I'm
headed
with
this.
On
that
slide,
470
million
dollars
flowing
into
1700
facilities,
that's
276
thousand
dollars
per
facility.
No!
No!
What
I
do
wrong.
D
It's
based
on
the
capacity
of
the
individual
facilities
and
the
payment
rate,
so
a
facility
that
is
licensed
to
hold
285
children
is
going
to
have
a
very
different
payment
rate
than
an
in-home
facility
that
has
a
maximum
of
six
children.
So
the
large
facilities
that
have
larger
mortgages
have
larger,
fixed
expenses
and
have
a
larger
number
of
staff
that
they
have
to
pay,
have
a
corresponding
amount
of
money
compared
to
the
smaller
facilities.
F
C
Saying
it
is
but
and.
C
F
C
C
But
what
we're
seeing
is
centers
that
are
struggling
and
they're
struggling
with
their
personnel
and
their
costs,
and
and
what
this
hopefully
will
allow
us
to
do,
and
what
the
aim
of
this
is
is
to
get
them
through
what
is
probably
the
most
challenging
time.
Well,
any
of
us
faced,
but,
but
certainly
the
child
care
industry
has
faced.
This
has
been
an
incredible
financial
hit
for
them,
so.
F
D
They're
not
limited
on
how
much
they
can
pay,
but
they
are
encouraged
to
pay
higher.
They
have
a
list
of
specific
expenses
that
include
staffing
as
the
top
priority,
but
also
fixed
expenses,
specific
training-
I
guess
resiliency
mental
health
supports
for
their
staff
and
their
children,
but
again
they're
paid
for
a
per
child
amount.
F
F
F
G
West.
Thank
you,
mr
secretary,
mrs
van
over
great
presentation.
My
questions
deal
with
when,
when
did
the
payments,
when
did
these
payments
start.
D
The
first
payment
went
out
at
the
end
of
2021.
The
second
payment
went
out
a
week
and
a
half
ago,
some.
G
Fairly
new
payments,
yes
and
I'll,
just
ask
the
big
question:
let
you
take
it
from
there.
So
the
big
question
for
me
is:
are
the
scales
tilted
in
any
way
towards
public
versus
private
and
when
I
say
what
I
mean
by
public
is
quasi-governmental
entities
so,
like
your
ymca
or
people
like
that,
when
you're
giving
out
the
payments,
you
know
you've
got
these
applications
that
they
have
to
fill
out
is?
Is
there
a
difference
there
or
is
the
money
in
your
opinion,
gonna
be
evenly
evenly
flow
down
to
private,
carry
private
entities.
C
It's
it's
all
based
on
occupancy.
The
only
funding
that
I
think
that
might
be
in
question
was
early
funding
that
went
to
the
limited
duration
centers,
and
that
was
about
1.5
million
out
of
all
that
we're
talking
about
here,
which
you
know
million
here,
a
million
there,
but
it's
that
was
the
only.
That
was
the
only
really
funding
that
was
wasn't
dedicated
to
a
specific
group.
Not
the
entire
group.
B
To
kind
of
senator
gibbons,
it
was
kind
of
going
down
some
of
the
same
paths
that
I
was
going
to
ask
questions
on
and
so
to
take
it
a
step
further
than
where
he
did
roughly.
How
many
kids
are
going
to
be
qualified
to
meet
this
program
like
how
many
can
kids
on
a
daily
basis?
Will
we
see
in
child
care
facilities,
so
we
can
kind
of
break
this
number
in
per
a
per
child
cost.
D
So,
prior
to
the
pandemic,
starting
the
full
occupancy
for
kentucky
was
167
thousand
134
children.
We
lost
approximately
nine
percent
of
our
child
care
facilities
during
that,
but
we
have
had
new
facilities
come
up.
The
issue
right
now
with
full
occupancy,
is
that
many
centers
are
short
staffed,
so
they
have
had
to
close
one
to
two
classrooms
because
of
lack
of
staffing.
So
it's
hard
to
get
an
idea
of
enrollment
versus
occupancy,
but
we
are
asking
that
now
on
our
monthly
data
sheets.
D
C
D
C
B
C
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
secretary
and
doctor.
My
question
is:
when
the
money
goes
away
in
2023
who's
going
to
pay
or
how
is
the
facilities
going
to
pay
the
the
the
15
20,
whatever
they're,
paying.
C
I
think
you
identify
the
challenge
and
it's
one
that
we're
going
to
have
over
the
next
year,
which
is
how
do
we
figure
out
how
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
these
centers
going
right?
C
That
is,
it
was
a
challenge
before
we
were
losing
centers
before
the
pandemic
and
that
a
lot
of
the
wage
pressure
and
thing
that
that
you
address
there
and-
and
we
will
see
it
again
when
this,
when
these
funds
go
away,
unless
we
can
figure
out
a
way
on
how
we
structure
things
differently,
to
make
sure
that
we're
supporting
the
centers
going
forward.
I
think,
all
across
the
board,
we
under
valued
child
care
and
I'm
hoping
that
we
we
don't
continue
to
do-
that.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
have
two
short
questions.
I
guess
approximately
17,
approximately
15
of
the
child
care
slots
in
the
states
are
children
receiving
subsidies.
We
can
talk
about
15
or
17..
H
D
A
All
right
guys,
thank
you
very
much,
both
for
being
here
today,
secretary
free
lender,
we
have
interacted
many
times
on
many
different
subjects.
I
know
your
commitment,
I
appreciate
your
commitment
and
I
want
to
say
right
now
and
very
specifically,
to
the
united
way
my
level
of
disappointment
in
that
organization
for
the
questions
that
they
sent
last
night
designed
to
trap
the
secretary
into
some
poor
answers
today
is
tremendous
and
for
those
interest
groups
who
think
you
can
send
this
committee
questions
after
hours
with
no
explanation,
no
comment,
no
meeting
save
your
time.
A
We
won't
do
it
to
this
cabinet
or
to
any
other
cabinet.
So,
mr
secretary
ma'am,
thank
you
for
your
service.
We
sincerely
appreciate
it
and
we
look
forward
to
an
honest
and
thoughtful
dialogue
moving
forward.
Absolutely
thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right.
Next
up
we
have
senate
joint
resolution,
99
sponsored
by
senator
douglas
and
ably
co-sponsored
and
assisted
by
senator
higdon.
Gentlemen.
At
this
time,
please
come
forward.
A
I
H
I've
been
working
here
with
senator
higdon
and
he
is
here
to
talk
as
well
I'll.
H
I
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
members
of
the
committee.
As
you
all
know,
I
filed
senate
bill
75
back
on
and
fairly
early
in
january
and
and
senate
bill
75
would
freeze
the
motor
vehicle
tax
at
the
2021
level,
which
would
prevent
the
increases
that
the
revenue
cabinet
have
have
and
nada
book
value
has
put
into
effect.
I
We
ran
into
some
constitutional
issues
and
we
we've
tried
diligently
to
find
a
way
around
that
and
and
like
I
said,
a
lot
of
conversation
has
gone
on
about
this
bill
and
and
I'm
sure
every
one
of
you
have
received
constituent
emails
because
there's
a
lot
of
concern
across
kentucky
about
these
increases
in
in
the
assessment
value
of
vehicles.
I
A
few
few
days
ago,
senator
douglas
and
senator
gibbons
brought
forth
an
ideal
and
they
asked
me
did
you
know,
look
at
the
bill,
the
legis
or
the
state
law
as
it
exists
today
and
in
state
law.
There
is
a
provision
that
says
the
standard
value
of
the
motor
vehicle
shall
be
the
average
trade-in
value
prescribed
by
the
valuation
manual.
Unless
information
is
available.
That
warrants
any
deviation
from
the
standard
value.
I
Mr
chairman,
there's
a
lot
of
information
out
there
that
warrants
a
deviation
from
standard
value
in
the
past
we've
recommended
to
to
constituents
to
go
to
the
pva
if
they
thought
that
their
value
was
over
assessed
if
they
had
a
vehicle
that
had
several
hundred
thousand
miles
on
it.
That
would
be
a
deviation
if
they
had
a
a
vehicle
that
had
hail
damage.
I
That
would
be
a
deviation,
but
all
these
other
factors
that
are
coming
into
effect
right
now
that
have
have
skyrocketed
the
value
of
used
cars
is
also
a
deviation,
and
I
think
senate
senate
joint
resolution
99
addresses
that
and
turn
it
back
over
to
senator
douglas
to
explain
his
bill.
But
I
want
to
thank
him
for
for
actually
reading
the
law
and
bringing
this
forward
him
and
senator
gibbons.
H
Thank
you
senator
higdon.
Now
I've
got
a
few
things.
I'd
like
to
say
to
this,
to
the
chairman
and
to
the
committee
here
center
joint
resolution
99
directs
the
governor
to
order
the
department
of
revenue
to
exempt
the
pandemic,
driven
increased
significant
deviation
in
vehicle
values
from
the
motor
vehicle
owner's
property
tax
calculations
instead
of
assessing
the
value
of
the
vehicles
at
today's
assessment.
H
H
H
H
H
She
sent
a
letter
to
the
kentucky
property
value
administrators
and
to
kentucky
county
clerks
on
january
6
of
this
year,
and
in
that
letter
she
wrote
overall,
the
22
valuation
increases
for
vehicles
compared
to
the
same
time.
Last
year
is
up
approximately
40
percent,
so
we're
looking
at
a
40
increase
in
valuation
of
these
vehicles.
She
even
went
on
to
talk
about
some
of
the
issues
causing
this
new
vehicle
production
and
inventory
constraints:
elevated
new
vehicle
transaction
prices,
ongoing
limited
supplies
of
used
vehicles,
an
increased
dealer
interest
in
used
vehicles.
H
H
H
H
A
Thank
you
senator,
and
we
have
a
we're
developing
a
pretty
extensive
list
that
want
to
comment
on
this.
We
are
going
to
adjourn
today
at
10
o'clock.
So
if
I
could
ask
the
members,
as
you
have
your
questions
to
our
esteemed
presenters,
please
brevity
is
now
the
order
of
the
day
so
starting
out
senator
meredith.
B
Thank
you
monsieur,
and
I
will
be
brief
because
there's
not
a
question:
senator
higdon
you're
correct
getting
as
many
emails
on
this
almost
as
many
as
we
got
for
the
unemployment
debacle,
and
nobody
saw
this
coming,
I
mean
krs
132.485
is
intended
to
protect
our
consumers
because
assets
depreciate.
This
is
a
once
once-in-a-lifetime
event.
B
I
don't
thought
anybody
for
that,
except
the
communication
on
this
great,
that
the
department
of
revenue
sent
out
a
letter
to
the
pva,
but
they
never
said
anything
to
us
and
we
were
all
blindsided
by
this.
This
is
a
travesty.
It's
a
callous
disregard
for
the
taxpayer
for
the
working
people
of
the
state.
It
is
not
right
and
the
longer
we
put
this
off
the
more
hassle
it
creates.
B
Already,
I'm
hearing
from
a
local
county
government
said:
how
are
we
going
to
pay
this
back,
we're
paying
out
this
money
every
month
it
should
have
been
addressed
the
day
we
came
back
here.
The
governor
should
have
stepped
up
and
said,
here's
our
plan
for
this,
but
as
as
always,
we
never
heard
for
him
on
this.
It's
inexcusable.
What's
happened
to
the
taxpayers
of
the
state,
the
working
people
say
it's
inexcusable,
so
I
hardly
endorse
this
resolution.
The
sooner
we
pass
and
get
it
through
the
better
for
the
people
of
this
state.
G
Thank
you,
senator
senator
west.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
My
question
is
for
either
one
who
wants
to
answer.
Senator
higdon
or
senator
douglas
senator
higdon
referred
to
an
exception
in
the
statute,
an
existing
statute.